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25 Jul 2017 15:44:46
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25 Jul 2017 15:26:44
Paul Joyce of The Times, Chris Bascombe of The Telegraph, James Pearce of The Liverpool Echo, and Melissa Reddy of Goal; all of them are saying LFC will not be putting in the 3rd bid.

LFC were led (by the agent I think) to think they RBL were willing to sell NB but seeing that RBL were not going to be sincere in negotiating a deal, had decided that they will not be putting in the 3rd bid.

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25 Jul 2017 09:20:00
Hi ed1 hope your well.
Do you know of any interest in investment with the club from other parties as it's quite obvious to everyone we can't compete with the likes of city, United, Chelsea.
Cheers.

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{Ed001's Note - I am not sure what on earth makes you say that last bit, apart from crap in newspapers etc, but no I don't know of any right now.}

25 Jul 2017 09:35:17
I thought we competed very well in the league against City, United and Chelsea it was teams like Burnley, Hull and Palace that we struggled against.

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25 Jul 2017 09:53:31
Financially.

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25 Jul 2017 10:07:34
I am not talking about competing on the field it's off the field that concerns me as in the purchase of players look how much the 3 mentioned teams have spent so far.
I'm not say fsg should bank roll us for everything I thought that other investment would an cod be brought in that's all.

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{Ed001's Note - personally I am only worried about competing on the pitch, but there you go.}

25 Jul 2017 10:17:59
Quite happy for us to not be competing with them financially as long as we are taking results off them, just need a few additions to help break down more defensive teams like Salah. We don't need to spend £300mil just need to sensible with what we add.

My biggest concern is that (in my opinion) we don't seem to be looking for a top denfensive midfielder who will help us to stop opposition counter attacks. We attack and press so well with lots of players flooding forward but then get beaten by simple direct play into strikers feet because there is no shield. It would even help to defend long balls over the top because a deeper lying midfielder could recover more quickly and add an additional cover.

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25 Jul 2017 10:21:47
A team like Leicester winning the Premier League is something we are unlikely to see again for a long time. That was the perfect combination of every ingredient making that team tick and it was not investment.

The only thing that matters is continued success on the pitch, how we get there - well that clearly is the challenging part for all clubs, not just Liverpool but all paths do not lead to spending more cash.

Don't get me wrong, my untrained eye would love to see Keita at the club, not because he will cost us 70+ million GBP but because he looks like someone who will immediately improve the first 11.

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25 Jul 2017 10:32:25
Would I spend 49m on Sterling, 50m on Stones, 53m on Mendy, 45m on Walker no way, 34m on Mane and 34m on Salah does not seem too bad, Matip for free over Stones? It is not about spending big it is about spending smart

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25 Jul 2017 10:55:43
Exactly kingcarlos, there are probably 10 clubs in the world that can just splash out these inflated prices and we are not one of them. man city just spent 54 mill and 26 mill on 2 players that will compete for 1 position. its insane. as much as I would love for us to have unlimited funds I also like our club to be astute in their purchases. i would rather we spend big if need be and for cover we nurture and develop our youngsters because I am excited about several of them.

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25 Jul 2017 10:56:13
Personally I'd back us against anyone. With all of their money spent do they have a better forward 4 than Mane, Salah, Firmino and Coutinho? If we can then get a top CB and TAA come on like we'd hoped then what a side! You don't need to spend £300 million in one transfer window to compete on the pitch.

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25 Jul 2017 11:16:36
No worries cheers it's all about opinions.

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25 Jul 2017 11:24:18
Money can buy quality and it can also buy overpriced tripe. Every transfer is a risk. The world class players do come at a hefty price though. Luckily I don't think our league rivals have bought any world class players this window.

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25 Jul 2017 11:36:17
Who says we can't compete? I think the owners are prepared to back Klopp, the difference is he is not Brenda Rodgers - he will only buy what he believes will make the club better and not just buy for the sake of it. I'm happy with that.

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25 Jul 2017 11:47:24
The other issue is that they can afford higher wages and when it comes down to it, players are more often than not going to choose one of those clubs if they had the option.

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25 Jul 2017 12:39:43
Spot on, Happy and Jigz. Klopp is not as arrogant and incompetent as BR. Also, If you are spending big on slightly average to above average players like Walker, Danilo, Pickford, Keane etc, then I have no fear cos our team is filled with the right players who fit our system to a T and when we are firing on all cylinders, we are simply unplayable and none of these clubs spending big can beat us.

We just need to improve our first team every season with the right players, turn some of our draws into wins, cut down the points we lose from winning positions (18 points last season) and improve the quality in depth to account for injuries.

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25 Jul 2017 12:43:10
Have a look at Jose he buys top players klopp makes top players I have think fsg no this also hence he's in the job personally I prefer us to develop talent as look in the past Leeds Portsmouth they over stretch and suffer long term and would hate Liverpool to do the same.

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25 Jul 2017 12:57:29
To say we can't compete financially after bids of 66mil for kieta, reported bids (yet to be tabled) of 50/ 60 for Vvd. 35mil for salah is crazy. We might not have limitless wealth but you don't need to spend 500 mil each summer. Liverpool simply can compete both financially and on the field. It's the teams like Burnley and Swansea who find it maybe hard to compete financially. Saying that. Leicester won the league didn't they? Absolute rubbish.

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25 Jul 2017 13:29:11
B scouse, love ya mate but walker is a little better than average to slightly above average. One of best rbs in the world and was easily best RB in the euros last year. Apart from that I agree with you totally.

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25 Jul 2017 14:09:12
B Scouse- Those 4 players you have listed would all improve our team/ squad.

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25 Jul 2017 14:11:16
Walker best RB in the euros? Next I'll be hearing Rooney had a good tournament.

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25 Jul 2017 15:11:42
All you who says its not about spending big, look who has won the league last 10 years. I bet that the ones who have won atleast have been top 3 spenders on wages and fees that season.

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25 Jul 2017 15:28:02
It's a game of opinions but I certainly wouldn't say any of the 4 players B Scouse mentioned would improve us and I'd go as far as to say if we'd signed them, Keane and Danilo especially everyone would be up in arms about us signing average players for big money. Even Pickford is a huge risk, let's not forget we signed Migs from Sunderland after he'd had a good season. As for Walker being the best right back in the Euros! Seriously?

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25 Jul 2017 15:37:36
Don't you get a trophy for spending the most money ed001?
I could have sworn so after reading this website for so many years?!?!

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25 Jul 2017 08:21:33
Eds have you heard anything about Chelsea bidding for VVD. Media reporting they're in for him. Our history of rivalling Chelsea for players is not the best.

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{Ed001's Note - they were interested but walked away when Saints quoted them a price, that was prior to all the storm over our move for him. Ed002 has told you all this already.}

25 Jul 2017 08:29:59
Cheers Ed 01 was just wondering if anything had changed as media are recycling the info again then. Keep up the good work, love the site.

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{Ed001's Note - it is best to just ignore the media to be honest. It is all just hearsay and bull in the main.}

25 Jul 2017 08:33:41
Cheers Ed 01. That's what happens when you're on holiday from work. Too much spare time on my hands. I can't actually wait for season to start and window to close so we can just go about our business on the pitch.

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{Ed001's Note - holiday? What's one of those?}

25 Jul 2017 08:42:53
Bit of a concern re Vvd now as Chelsea have appeared to have an interest. What a complete cock up by lfc in this transfer market.

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25 Jul 2017 08:53:50
Transfer window is still open for another 5 weeks, quit the hysteria mate.

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{Ed002's Note - Right now he is still "not for sale". If that changes the prior interest of Arsenal and Chelsea may return.}

25 Jul 2017 09:11:34
Hardly hysteria mate just fact.
Here's another fact if an it looks very possible we miss out on our two main targets do we go for as all decent players have been snapped up. This season is massive for lfc an yet again we haven't addressed our biggest problem keeper and defence.

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25 Jul 2017 09:22:18
And VVD has previously told Liverpool he'll choose us over Chelsea, I doubt much has changed in that respect.

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25 Jul 2017 09:43:16
Does Rudiger not affects Chelsea's interest ed002?

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{Ed002's Note - No Fencey.}

25 Jul 2017 10:10:03
Hello Eds
Thanks for all the ways you have been engaging us, with banter, answers to questions and general information.
Please explain how transfers work. Not as a whole but as pertaining to getting one's target. You mentioned that once VVD is placed on sale, the interests from Arsenal and Chelsea are still on the table. How would this affect us getting our man seeing he wants us and we are willing to pay the asking price. When would a bidding war come into play?
Apologies for asking so many questions.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool formally withdrew their interest in the player. If they were to change their minds they could approach Southampton, who have the stance thet they do not wish to sell - although the player's position is I would think untenable now.}

25 Jul 2017 00:38:32
An actual rumour from an Italian friend in Florence. Following the sale of Federico Bernardeschi (a fine player, btw), expect a bid for Lazar Markovic from Fiorentina this week.

I am told that the the mighty LFC are aware of these events and have already floated the idea of including Alberto Moreno as part of a double-deal.

Fiorentina are said to be receptive to the idea.

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25 Jul 2017 02:52:33
Let's hope the rumor is true. Seems like a good spot for both players but maybe a bit too good to be true.

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25 Jul 2017 03:50:37
Hope so. Need to start selling some players to fund expensive incomings. If we can get around 25 million combined for Markovic and Moreno, then well done to Edwards.

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25 Jul 2017 06:32:34
Markovic deserves a move more than we need to sell players. He's not been treated well by our club.

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25 Jul 2017 07:29:10
Markovic hasn't been given many chances but he's obviously not tickled any managers fancy on the training ground either. He hardly set the world alight at Fenerbache, Sporting or Hull whilst on loan. I actually thought he would be more suited to Klopp as well.

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25 Jul 2017 07:38:13
People say it's because he's lost confidence but, he's always looked like a player that hasn't got many ideas on the ball. He doesn't seem very two footed either. Still, I hope he can rebuild his career.

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25 Jul 2017 07:38:34
What expensive incomings Indian buzzer? Kieta and vvd aren't happening, guaranteed, let's all move on!

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25 Jul 2017 08:14:16
People telling other people to move on would surely find it easier if they just moved onto the next post and saved themselves 2 minutes of typing.

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25 Jul 2017 09:05:43
You could say Markovic hasn't treated us very well either. £20 million and he's given us very little. Surely it's down to the player to force their way into the managers plans not the manager to play the player just because of the fee paid? The fee isn't his fault but he needs to have a bit more about him to get into the side.

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25 Jul 2017 13:21:17
Markovic was arguably hull's best player toward the end of last season. I agree he hasn't been given a chance here but klopp knows what he's doing. If he were good enough in training then he would get a chance I'm sure. Just another example of an average to decent player being hyped as the next big thing and the Brodge falling for it. I reckon he would do well at celtic ;) no seriously, I do.

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25 Jul 2017 15:07:39
Actually, he started very well. He was fired up and has shown his hunger on the pitch. After his red card (that I thought was unjustified), a sequence of events led him to be taken out of the first team and loaned out. I think that we had no right to take a very promising player, spend so much money on him and then bench / loan him out like he was some kind of a rental. We ruined what was a very promising career and now we complain about the lad.
That is unfair. He should have been given 12-15 games in the starting lineup. Playing week in week out. When we took Lucas, despite his poor start, we fielded him again and again. He kept his head down even when booed by our own supporters. Only that consistency and the time we gave him on the pitch made him into a very good player for us. Not many players can say they have been here for 10 years. We should have treated Lazar better.

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25 Jul 2017 15:21:59
Agreed, Indian Buzzer. I get a cheap thrill from balancing the books! Love a good sale as much as a good buy. :)

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24 Jul 2017 17:52:18
Eds, I've read your recent answers in regards to max Meyer and of course naby keita .

With Liverpool possibly finding naby unattainable, social media is speculating that Meyer could be the next target.

My understanding of naby was he'd provide cover to defence as well as attack. I have little or no knowledge of Meyer. would he be capable of this or is he another attack minded midfielder?

And is there any updates in regards to Meyer?

Regards in advance

Niall.

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{Ed002's Note - No Niall. I would think the speculation would be that Max Meyer would make a good replacement for Coutinho.}

24 Jul 2017 18:20:48
Sorry eds, musta misread it.

Thanks.

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24 Jul 2017 18:57:12
He's not half as good as Phil nor will he ever be.

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24 Jul 2017 19:01:54
U watch schalke a lot HX.

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25 Jul 2017 01:54:14
I see a lot of similar qualities to Couts in Manuel Lanzini actually. of course, not as good but he's a decent player who's adapted quite well to the EPL.

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25 Jul 2017 02:57:14
I really don't know much of Meyer but if coutinho was to leave would he be such a bad replacement?
Coutinho wasn't exactly setting the world alite in la liga or serie could Meyer not have a similar impact?

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25 Jul 2017 03:54:48
HX none of us thought Phil would be as good as he is now when he first signed for us. So let's not assume Meyer cannot get to that level or be a player who can contribute successfully to the team.

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25 Jul 2017 07:20:55
Max Meyer 100% has the talent to equal couts. My issue is that he is about 4 years away from getting there so would weaken us considerably in the short term.

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25 Jul 2017 08:38:58
Not in a million years, 87. I've seen Max Meyer play for Schalke, the German Olympic team last summer (along with Brandt and Sule) and with the U-21's this summer. He is not fit to shine Couts' left boot except he ups his game seriously which we do not have the time for. The Couts of four years ago was already better than the Meyer of today. He is talented but a Couts, he is not.

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25 Jul 2017 13:46:49
Don't know much about Meyer admittedly but when inter sold Phil for 8 mil they could not have known he'd become one of world's best. My point is we simply don't know how quick, well someone will develop. I don't want us to stand in Phil way but I'd like him to choose us. Getting a little fed up. We scout fantastically and find these rough diamonds. Turn them into proper world class players and just when they start to peak we go give em to Barcelona or real madrid. Basically we do all the hard work and Barcelona get all the benefit from it. We get some cash, scout another promising player, build him up to a world beater and just when we're thinking of challenging for league we go sell em. I don't know how we do it but we need to make players realise we are one of the worlds biggest clubs.

Barcelona
Real Madrid
Liverpool
Juventus
Bayern Munich (maybe)

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25 Jul 2017 15:21:11
@Superred91 We do all the hard work? Really? Southampton rings a bell mate?
Who besides Sterling did we lose to a big club recently? Suarez? Not home grown. Even Sterling was brought in from QPR at the age on 16! Am I missing someone? Since Macca and Owen, who?

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25 Jul 2017 15:32:15
Funny that. In that case, Southampton do all the hard work and Liverpool reaps all the rewards! That's how football works.

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24 Jul 2017 10:02:12
Hi eds, with keita looking unlikely could Leon goretzka be an option now?

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{Ed002's Note - Leon Goretzka was of interest to Southampton but Schalke said they had intention of selling in the short-term but he has been reluctant to listen to offers of a new contract and they are now willing to listen to offers. Juventus are struggling to get their first choice option in midfield for this summer and are thought that they may be returning to Leon Goretzka - but have not made approaches to his club or agent. Arsenal might well look to him if they cannot get their preferred target. Spurs, Manchester City and Bayern Munich are also looking to Goretzka as a possible option. If Liverpool are unable to sign their first choice it is possible that they could also look to Goretzka.}

24 Jul 2017 10:45:28
Lets hope so as he is a young physical specimen which we need in the center of the park. At 6'2" he won't be bullied there. Technically gifted box to box player scoring 8 goals from there last season. A cheaper option to Keita. All Klopp needs to do is now make this happen and walk away from VVD and move for Tah instead. It would free up more funds for maybe a world class goalkeeper?

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24 Jul 2017 11:04:51
Tah had a really bad season mate, not sure he is the answer.

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24 Jul 2017 11:17:31
I would gladly take Tah and Leno of Leverkusen hands I believe they would be a big improvement on two problematic areas we clearly have after yet another season of not addressing the problems last season. Both would cost less than the price being mentioned for VVD. I'm not convinced VVD is the right person for us. His concentration wonders most games. At least in Tah we would have a young strong tall defender with a lot of promise who is highly regarded in his homeland. To be capped for Germany at 21 should say it all. I feel he will compliment Matip well.

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24 Jul 2017 11:22:13
Turning our back on vvd would be pretty nasty at this point I feel. I wonder who's idea it was that he should tell Southampton he won't play for them? Agent? Someone at pool? We need to stick to this one.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has publicly withdrawn all interest in the player. They have not withdrawn that statement.}

24 Jul 2017 12:24:41
At 70m he should be the worlds best in his position but he's not even close to being the best in the division. He doesn't offer anywhere near value for money. Southampton obviously put a residuals price tag on him to scare away the wolves circling around. But for some mad reason Liverpool took the bait. Back away maybe with your tail between your legs but 70m in the bank is the best result. If it goes through at 70m other teams will be rubbing there hands at the opportunity of getting many more millions out of us than the players are worth. It set the benchmark for others to deal wit us.

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24 Jul 2017 12:57:07
What is the obsession with getting another MF player, yes I would have liked to get keita but we have plenty of youngsters who can shine instead, grujic should be pushing for a start IMO.

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24 Jul 2017 13:28:33
Eds, is Juve's 1st choice Can? Or completely unrelated?

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{Ed002's Note - No it wasn't, but others are not available and they are going down their list.}

24 Jul 2017 13:45:06
Am I the only fan who can't see the value of Grujic just yet, at the moment he reminds me very much of a Jonjo Shelvey type player, has some vision but can't tackle, isn't the quickest and his positional sense isn't great.
I know he's still young but I think he's far from being a reliable first team player for a while, if at all.

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24 Jul 2017 14:41:51
I like Goretzka. Very good player with a bright future.

However, would he be an improvement on Emre? I'm not sure.

Would he provide a skill set we don't already have in midfield? Again, I'm not sure. Keita is very fast and would add a lot of energy and ability to the middle.

Goretzka I think is too similar to what we have in terms of style.

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24 Jul 2017 14:42:03
I agree Trevor, not the finished article but for league cup, etc, can prove himself. Shows enough to be hopeful of first team in the future though. Looks cleverer than JJ.

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24 Jul 2017 14:44:04
So Treverpool you have basically watched him in 2-3 games, give him a bloody chance man. I for one hope he gets the game time he needs he will surprise a few.

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24 Jul 2017 15:13:31
I've not based my opinion of Grujic on these pre season games however the pre season games have confirmed to me that at the moment he's over hyped by some fans which isn't really fair on the lad.

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24 Jul 2017 15:20:43
Leon goretzka is better than emre can and grujic together.

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24 Jul 2017 17:28:14
Fifa stats are not gospel.

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24 Jul 2017 17:46:58
Grujic might turn out to be just OK, or could turn out to be our version of Dele Alli - we won't know until we play him. I think he deserves a chance to prove himself on rotation or in cup games, and while we have Hendo, Can, Wiji, Llalana and Coutinho in midfield, we have enough cover if he doesn't quite make the step up this season.

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24 Jul 2017 18:34:07
For me grujic is more of a goal threat than our other cm at the moment, he has shown great attacking position in the few minutes he's played so far, very promising player just hope he gets a consistent run of games to prove it.

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24 Jul 2017 22:28:28
Trevor you don't want to put pressure on him but you don't want to compare him with Shelvey either. He's nothing like him at all. Shelvey was all ill disciplined aggression and attempted Hollywood passes. For me Grujic has shown much more game intelligence already.

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24 Jul 2017 22:28:58
So Ed001 who would you like Klopp to bring in as a realistic fantasy football type scenario?

Which CB would you like to see in Liverpool's starting line up?

Which CM would you like to see?

And which forward would you like to see if any at all?

Personally I also feel the GK position needs attending to so let's throw that one in as well?

Please give reasons why you have picked the players you have and feel free to add any other positions you feel need strengthening .

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{Ed001's Note - I really don't have the time nor inclination to get into fantasy football chat at the moment sorry.}

25 Jul 2017 13:53:03
I think it's pretty clear that van dyke could become best cb in the world. Better than stones easy. Good solid header of the ball while stones is doing a cruff turn in the six yard box van dyke clears with a strong pass straight into feet of midfield. Really hope we get him. For our sake and for his. Feel sorry for him, he should have been playing in Asia cup for us instead of being frozen out of s'Hampton.

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23 Jul 2017 22:13:46
Has VVD handed in a formal transfer request Eds or has he just said he doesn't want to be there anymore?

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{Ed002's Note - I don't know to be honest. Southampton must be aware it is coming and that there is interest in him from a couple of sides, but they won't be happy at all.}

23 Jul 2017 22:23:08
You can't blame them really! If a Liverpool player did what VVD is doing I'm sure LFC wouldn't be best pleased! But saying that I hope business can be done between us and Saints as I feel VVD is the only signing we really need to improve our Squad! Keita would have been nice but I don't think he is an essential need right now especially for the money we are trying to throw at RB for him!

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23 Jul 2017 23:58:33
Mascherano did it to us and barcelona paid a fraction of what he was worth.

At least Southampton will be getting paid well over the odds for VVD.

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24 Jul 2017 00:41:41
I don't think we will get him. Southampton seem adamant and if they do sell I don't think it will be to us on principle. Don't know why they're getting so funny zbout it, we are talking crazy amount of money. We won't get kieta either. If we lose coutinio I don't think I'm being hysterical by calling this window a disaster. We've lost a top midfielder already and only signed one star player and two squad fillers (although Robertson should come good, don't see him jumping in front of Milner straight away) I guess it's not bad, we were brilliant at full strength last term. I'd like to see at least one more star signing though. And then there's can. Klopp said the talks were not the worst. That sounds pretty bad to me. I know it's all talk at the moment but it's going bad to worse.

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24 Jul 2017 03:39:10
Ever the pessimist. Lol. Relax doom munger.

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24 Jul 2017 07:21:02
We will get VVD. Southampton are for ever selling players regardless what they say.

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24 Jul 2017 08:22:29
Isn't there an element of saints bringing this situation on themselves somewhat? Didn't I read something about saints' treatment of another player causing some unrest amongst the team?

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

24 Jul 2017 08:58:42
Slowdog, that was the situation where Fonte allegedly had his transfer to Man U messed around by Southampton. VVD was apparently left unsettled at his team mates treatment. This was discussed by one of th Eds a while ago. You can use the search to try find it.

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24 Jul 2017 09:10:24
Ed2 I think slowdog is right. I read the same thing too that VVD was unhappy and wanted to leave after the Southampton board vs Fonte transfer debacle when he left last window.
can’t for the life of me find the article I read it on though ;_;

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{Ed002's Note - I have explained the issue. It is quite frankly pitiful that you are now trying to blame Southampton for the illegal approach made by Klopp and Liverpool - absolutely pathetic.}

24 Jul 2017 09:12:32
Southampton should probably just sell him to us at this stage, it's good money and they can re-invest it quite wisely, they should never have been put in this situation by Liverpool, but that's the situation they find themselves in.

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24 Jul 2017 11:23:14
Calm down ed. Its nothing of the sort. I absolutely know 100% that Liverpool were at fault in their dealings a few months ago. The situation I was referring to was vvd's earlier unrest.

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24 Jul 2017 11:26:51
Sorry gilcra. I know it's a pretty gloomy post but coutinio talk really worried me coz of our selling past. Trying to be positive today. Let's whack a massive offer in for virgil! See what happens then move on if we can't force Southamptons hand. I'd rather have 60 mil than a player who doesn't want to play for you.

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24 Jul 2017 11:49:59
Knowing klopp he will have alternative targets in place and in a way they come with less pressure on their shoulders. If we don't lose anyone around the first team and sign a decent cb then it'll be a good window. If we also sign a dynamic midfielder then I'd say it's been a great summer. My stomach is doing summersults thinking OUR season is less than 3 weeks away! All the talk of a new CB must have made lovren stop and think. The guy is class on his day and I reckon he will be training hard. No point buying a cb unless hrs an improvement.

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24 Jul 2017 12:26:45
It looks like Can is going, we can't get into a situation like mcmanaman or Owen and let them go for nothing or on the cheap. Can has potential but not winning trophies is something players don't want. lfc should get as much for him now .
Also coutinho has his heart set on Barcelona maybe influenced by Suarez. so let him go for 90/ 100 mill. included in that maybe a fringe player.
The players to go for maybe Assensio, Carvalho, lfc have goto act quick thou .

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24 Jul 2017 13:43:07
Ed02- .......................go on, post this and let's see who agrees?

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{Ed002's Note - We don't respond to threats from rubbish like you. Don't come back.}

24 Jul 2017 15:38:51
So is Keita definitely off? Sorry I've been away for a few days and tried the search function but every single post for the last 6 weeks has been about Keita so that didn't help!

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24 Jul 2017 16:07:47
The key word is ILLEGAL.

Not sure how any fan can condone Klopp's or Liverpool FC's actions. After releasing a statement saying he won't be pursued, I think it would be utterly embarrassing to try and tie up a deal now.

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24 Jul 2017 17:31:48
Hi first time poster here. Been on the site for a while now but never posted before.

I've reads posts from fans alike on here and also the EDS going on and on about the tapping up scenarios. and in all honesty I've heard enough now. Liverpool tapped up a player whether it was knowingly or not and they got caught out. deal with it. one thing I don't agree with is some (not all of the Eds) are commenting saying this isn't a common practice in football . I'm sorry it is, it's more common than you would ever believe. This is happening in every league in all countries, and as someone who's spent 11 years in the game, and also have close friends who have played and still play at the very top this country has to offer I can tell you every single club do it. The difference is some are a lot more tactful the way they go about it.

By the way you EDS do a great job keep it up 🖒.

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{Ed002's Note - I will explain again for you. What Liverpool has been doing includes really screwing with the career of a 12 year old boy, falifying records, making fraudulent submissions to the FA, leaving the kid's parents in significant debt, lying to an investigation and attempting to have his parents lie to an investigation is not common practice. Meeting a player without the knowledge of his club is not common practice. Communicating repeatedly with players of other sides after being warned twice last season, warned once this season and having a complaint lodged with the Premier League is not common practice.

These pitiful attempts and embarrassing attempts to deflect away from the manager are making the fans more and more of a laughing stock. Why you wish to humiliate everyone fourter is beyond me, but others want to move on whilst all you wish to do is illustrate yet again quite how bad the club and the manager have behaved.

If you are coming simply to troll the site and posts of others you are wasting your time. We would be grateful if you don't bother returning.}

24 Jul 2017 17:46:37
Well said ed. No reason whatsoever to defend the clubs actions. There should be a punishment technically but it looks like that won't be happening.

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24 Jul 2017 18:21:33
*deleted for being ignorant and idiotic nonsense*

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{Ed001's Note - you really have not a clue what you are talking about so please shut up and stop embarrassing yourself.}

24 Jul 2017 22:40:22
(Sent before I finished -. -)

I think even if we showed absolutely no interest in vvd and never illegally approached him or even thought about him, let’s take us out of the equation all together - He would still want out and if any other club approached he would probably do the same in Southampton never let him leave.

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24 Jul 2017 22:36:38
Eds, I in no way at all mentioned anything to do with our illegal approach. All I said was vvd had already hinted on he was unhappy at Southampton before Klopp even thought about walking on the pier with him.

NOTHING at all to do with how we made our approach, we still did something dumb af and should never have done it.

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24 Jul 2017 22:51:39
Ed002 has conveniently forgotten her teams tapping up of Ashley Cole. Every team taps up. Which is why no action was taken against Liverpool. It would open a can of worms. I read a fantastic write up from a lawyer who deals in football transfers. Tapping up is accepted because it's his club's gauge if a player is interested in a move or not. And it's all done on WhatsApp because agents always have their phone on them.

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{Ed002's Note - Where have I said I have forgotten that? Do you understand about that? Who was punished? Do you know who Mr Barnett os? What does "no action agaisnt Liverpool" mean and what has it do to witn 12 or 13 years ago and Mr Barnett. You are yet again embarrassing the decent fans of Liverpool with your ignorance - again everyone will look at this and thing how little people like you understand what is going on.}

23 Jul 2017 20:44:32
Hi eds
Instead of the thousand questions could you just tell us if you have any new info on players coming in and leaving
As all ways a big thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of the club flip-flopping to others right now. They remain keen on NB, and perhaps on VvD.}

23 Jul 2017 23:08:43
Keita s off. Vvd could cause problems but damnnn it'll be worth it.

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23 Jul 2017 20:43:00
Hi ed,

Have you had any indication as to who the alternatives are to Keita that LFC may consider? Surely there's a contingency plan of some sorts.

Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - I gave a list of those that the club has been interested in the other day - but most have moved on. You need to think seriously about whether or not the club just buy for the sake of it (to appease the fans) or has a structured approach to regeneration - where they buy the players they need.}

23 Jul 2017 23:10:42
Granted ed. Absolutely.

But

We haven't just identified keita. but a cm.

Similar to a pacey winger, mane wasn't first choice. Another winger. brandt, got salah. Wij. Robertson.

I'm hoping that it's the cm we have decided on, because in my opinion it's where games are won and lost and it is certainly not our stronger point.

Just don't want to go for someone completely below keita, hopefully it's someone similar.

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24 Jul 2017 00:43:26
Midfield is easily our strongest area of the pitch?

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24 Jul 2017 02:13:22
our midfield is deceptively (and arugably) our weakest link. they press well, link attack etc but they often leave the defense stranded and with the opposition flooding our box. Matip said it himself about the way we play not making it easy on our defenders. I think we have good pieces there, but I do believe our defense would benefit from out midfield being amore compact and connected unit. adding quality depth will help that and having guys who can come in and out with dropping the levels will help.

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24 Jul 2017 06:18:18
Opponents waltz through our midfield without a care in the world. I agree with Faithinworks.

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{Ed001's Note - that's because of the way we play, it will always be like that unless we had 3 Kantes in there, who could press and get back.}

24 Jul 2017 10:28:24
so we need 9 midfielders then ed001? haha.

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{Ed001's Note - could be.}

24 Jul 2017 11:30:38
Exactly eds. Brazil were always famous for saying "okay we concede 1 we score 3" we can't have everything. Top class defenders will help with leaking goals. World class keeper too. Karius looked unreal in training! Hope he gets the nod this season.

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24 Jul 2017 14:11:53
Agree with Ed - if you look at the tougher games we played last year with more balanced possession (e. g. Man City, Man Utd, Tottenham) our defense actually looked pretty good, largely because our midfield won the midfield battles and providing meaningful cover.

It's against the lower teams where we look shaky because our midfield and FBs both push up the pitch, leaving our CBS exposed on the break (not to mention set pieces) . so IMO our midfield isn't the problem, it's the way we play.

I do think Klopp has this figured out though - look at the way we were far more balanced in possession during the latter stages of last season. We scored less, but conceded far less, and put together a relatively consistent run.

I would not be surprised to see a more conservative/ balanced approach this year against the so-called weaker sides, and also to see a 4-2-3-1 come out from time to time.

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24 Jul 2017 22:55:32
Our defence only let in 8 goals in the last 12 games. Only Spurs matched that. We were showing signs of actually knowing how to defend. But also because Lovren and Matip both stayed fit. And Mignolet was absolutely brilliant.

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23 Jul 2017 16:58:11
Hi Ed 002,
do you think Liverpool will sign Keita and who is pushing so hard for the transfer? The manager or The owners? thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - I think it is unlikely as RBL really do not want to break up their side and sell. They have shared this position publically over and over and have made clear to his agent that this is the case.}

23 Jul 2017 18:23:44
Looks like another bid has been rejected, have you heard anything eds? Some saying this is b. s. Sly saying third bid rejected, others saying 3rd was rejected last week and 4th going in next week. confusing much! Alternatives? Move on I'd say. let's get vvd done.

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{Ed002's Note - It is as has been explained over and over.}

23 Jul 2017 18:38:06
Why are Liverpool seemingly pursuing a lost cause? Surely they must have been given some encouragement that a deal was possible to make multiple bids. Or is it misplaced arrogance?

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{Ed002's Note - I am not sure how much further they will chase but it will hopefully be another lesson learned at least. His agen may have provided encouragement but by Monday he had been warned off and by mid-week the club were distancing themselves from any meeting in Hong Kong which was by then being reported.}

23 Jul 2017 18:50:47
Cheers eds.

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23 Jul 2017 19:17:00
Someone obviously doesn't see it as a lost cause. Someone with purse strings. I would have left it weeks ago having the 2nd knock back and the "Hes not for sale" statement.

This is aimed at everyone saying "leave it" and "its a lost cause". do you think Barcelona will leave Couts alone after Klopps similar statement? Because I don't.

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{Ed002's Note - I suspect one more offer then they will move on and I suspect this is already known to the player's representative.}

23 Jul 2017 19:30:15
Do you suspect this last bid to be concidered by Leipzig at all, Ed002? Read some rumours about a huge payment upfront. If true would that perhaps make thrm soften up?

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{Ed002's Note - They don't want to sell.}

23 Jul 2017 19:41:33
ed002 has Keita been training on his own like reports say, if so will him pushing hard for a move in the end make it more of a decision for Leipzig to make a bit like torres did for us?

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{Ed002's Note - Not as far as I know. He was in the team photographs, has been training with the others and changed his Twitter picture or whatever to him kissing (perhaps licking) the RBL badge - just a thought, maybe he was kissing it goodbye?}

23 Jul 2017 19:48:46
Its really confusing me this, They are rejecting bids and actively saying not for sale, what is making us think anything will change, would the latest offer be considered silly money to get them to sell, or is silly money not even something they would look at.

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23 Jul 2017 19:52:01
I know, as no club wants to sell their best player, but sometimes money talks. Well that do definite end of this story then I assume. To bad, would of been a class signing.

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23 Jul 2017 20:09:11
Silly money is what has already been offered Jay.
If Klopp really wants him I'm sure he will wait and if this rumoured "release clause" kicks in next season we get him well cheaper. That's if he still wants to come this time next year.

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23 Jul 2017 20:24:44
Money may talk but for RBL, I really don't see them budging one bit.
Which I admire, because he's sticking to his gun and isn't being tempted by X amount of €€€, Even if Naby hands in a TR, I stink they they'll wouldn't sell him.

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23 Jul 2017 20:52:03
Suspect a lot of the stories are made up by the media
I don't believe LFC management is so dumb as chase after a lost cause
This is the time for newspapers to make nice profits.

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23 Jul 2017 21:24:10
Although he would be a great addition to the the squad not signing NK is great news as no way will couts be allowed to leave now.

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23 Jul 2017 21:10:02
ED your thoughts please. Keita is over, will Klopp go for a no2. target. If so any ideas who (hes claimed he won't spend for the sake of it) but Brandt was no 1 not Salah.

Hendo/ Gigi/ Can do not have the same style of play. Hendo sits way to deep sideways/ long ball doesn't drive the team forward. Can / Gigi not dynamic enough around the pitch.

Dont get me wrong all good players im judging them against Keita/ Kante, which it appears its what he wants if he's to accomodate Couts in midfield.

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{Ed002's Note - I keep ansering this question. It is like deja vu. A flashback.}

23 Jul 2017 21:15:18
ed002 is Keita keen on the move or is happy where he is keep seeing so many conflicting reports you would think there must be something in there for us to keep it up for so long.

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{Ed002's Note - You all seem to be treating this as the most quintessential tranfer ever. It is what has been explained over and over again.}

23 Jul 2017 21:13:22
I don't think is the end of the kieta saga. Not saying we will definitely get him but I reckon the third offer has divided rbl back stage so to speak. The German mag that reported the offer had been accepted must have got that from somewhere presumably. Management want to keep him, the money men want to sell him. 80 mil is a hell of a lot for someone who isn't fully proven or developed. He could get injured or have a poor season. Anything could happen in the kids life to upset his game. Also he could leave for almost half of what we're offering next year. As a football fan, if it were me I wouldn't sell. A business man would sell for sure hence the divide I reckon may have developed at rbl. Saying that I don't think we will sign him. A player I like and would like to see in red is siggurson. I know he is lacking defensively but that can be fixed. He is a match winner and he is begging for the big stage. Okay he goes missing in some games but arguably he has never played under a truly world class manager. Under klopp I could see him ecoming fantastic. Also he is the kinda guy who will whip in a lovely ball toward a blue *cough* Everton shirt in the last minute of a game. If we can get a top young talent and give Everton a dig at the same time all the better. For some reason he is not a popular choice here but I think he was one of best players in league last year. Maybe best player outside the top 6.

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23 Jul 2017 21:51:37
Money may talk in business but RBL is the wrong team to mess with. They have as much if not more money than City due to their sponsor (Red Bull) and money is of no issue to them. They don't need to sell at any price as they can pay the wages needed to keep their players. They don't need the money and neither do we need the money regarding Couts. Therefore, Keita will not be coming here and Couts will be staying here. Time to move on.

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24 Jul 2017 09:16:29
With how quickly we usually move on to Alternative targets if;
A) we get priced out or
B) another team comes in and offers sh! t loads more.
There must be surely some cause for us continuing on with our pursuit?
We don’t usually fight for players we want, let alone a top class player so i’m feeling very optimistic about it (and even VvD but not so much)

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24 Jul 2017 11:33:20
Hope you're right Phil. Barnes reckons it could go down to deadline day. Hope he's right too.

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