1.) 30 Jul 2016
30 Jul 2016 14:16:58
Would be great but doubt it has any chance of being reality, I'm baffled with the lack of getting a LB in.


2.) 30 Jul 2016
30 Jul 2016 14:52:21
Would be probably in the top three most expensive Lowry backs of all time, is he worth that?


3.) 30 Jul 2016
30 Jul 2016 15:01:38
Sadly it ain't happening mate. Amavi or stick with what we have i think.


4.) 30 Jul 2016
30 Jul 2016 15:06:44
This a reported rumour Leon or you just saying what you hope?


5.) 30 Jul 2016
30 Jul 2016 15:10:44
Common sense will prevail and a new left back will be signed as a starter.

The manager isn't that soft for Christ's sake.

That is all kids.

Chill and wait.


6.) 30 Jul 2016
30 Jul 2016 15:11:32
22.5 million to complete our strongest 11 since Rafa years is well worth it. Please let this be true.

Then, sell Moreno and buy Amavi. :)


7.) 30 Jul 2016
30 Jul 2016 15:32:02
Lowry back, Fencey?

I haven't seen much of him, but I'm pretty sure Hector is more muscular than a matchstick man :)


8.) 30 Jul 2016
30 Jul 2016 14:55:03
Seems to be gathering pace this one. 22.5 million the suggested figure that would seal the deal. Heard anything new on this one eds? We must have something in the pipeline. cheers.


9.) 30 Jul 2016
30 Jul 2016 16:25:41
Can any of the Eds either confirm a bid has been made for Hector or one is being prepared to be made?

{Ed001's Note - not the last I hearr but it would be like us to end up paying over double for what we need than we could have done.}


10.) 30 Jul 2016
30 Jul 2016 17:24:13
I disagree with most here. I do not want him for anything like that price. not sure he is even as good as people seem to think.


11.) 30 Jul 2016
30 Jul 2016 17:40:44
Precisely eds, £10m for our 1st choice or £22m for second choice, we've been doing this for years.


12.) 30 Jul 2016
30 Jul 2016 18:32:33
He's a full German international who can defend better than moreno, and concidering the points and games he cost us last season, on this instance I don't mind the price, it's way better than starting with moreno.


13.) 30 Jul 2016
30 Jul 2016 18:33:01
Davey you seem confident. Do you think hector or amavi or another?


14.) 30 Jul 2016
30 Jul 2016 18:40:12
Sounds like last journalism to me BUT for I would be a lot happier. We would only need Medel in then you would see a happy me and a happy ed001 lol.


15.) 30 Jul 2016
30 Jul 2016 18:50:28
Apparently a couple reports have suggested this fee Spartan and reporting something will happen in next few days, but we keep hearing different stories everyday so I'm hoping more than anything.


16.) 30 Jul 2016
30 Jul 2016 20:25:28
I don't know how good he is but he seems like a defensively minded full back which is a massive step in the right direction for us.
Reminds me a bit of Dennis Irwin. Hope he's as consistent.


17.) 30 Jul 2016
30 Jul 2016 20:29:09
Why the obsession with price

So Pogba maybe £100 Million.
Does that mean he is 20 times better than Grujic. Who gives a shit. He plays for them, he plays for us.
Just get on with it.
So we never got Chillwell.
He was Leicesters player n he stayed with the Champions~like that's never happend before.
Latest is Hector for £22/ £25 Million. Punters are saying its too much money. I put an average of £700 to £800 for my season ticket in The Main Stand each season. I have had a season ticket for over 32 years.
Never have I thought " that's too much to pay" Even Carroll` It is what it is and we should all, at the moment, back every single signing in Klopps' first full season as Manager and not pretend about beinf Financial Experts but Fans of The Reds.


18.) 30 Jul 2016
30 Jul 2016 21:33:20
I think you need at least one of your full backs to be good going forward to provide extra attacking width and options, and my worry with hector is that although he is very solid defensively, he's not as pacy or skillful as I would prefer in attack- and the problem is that clyne's not a world beater going forwards either.
I actually think amavi has more future potential than hector, although in the here and now, amavi is not as good.
Tbh honest though I think its academic anyway.
I think we've spent up for this window, and january will be the next time the LB situation will have a chance of being resolved.


19.) 30 Jul 2016
30 Jul 2016 22:27:45
Disagree anonymush, we scored 96 (? ) goals last season and have added more goal scorers (Wijnaldum, Mané) . We need to shore up the defence IMO.


20.) 30 Jul 2016
30 Jul 2016 23:03:26
We already done it once where where we walked away from a deal over a million or two in Zielinki, and ended up buying a more buying a player twice the price in Wijnaldum. So us walking away from Chillwell and buying Hector for twice as much might actually "make sense".


21.) 31 Jul 2016
31 Jul 2016 00:15:40
Ron I think we were a bit short on league goals last year- so that large-sounding 96 total goals does not reflect league performances.
But tbh my point was more about a good attacking fullback giving the team more options to attack wide when teams pack the midfield and play narrow.
My problem with moreno is that at this stage in his development he is still quite wasteful going forwards and still a bit unpredictable in defence, although his pace and skill allow him to make spectacular last ditch tackles.
So hector at least adds defensive strength.
I am worried that no matter how many scoring midfielders we have (and wijnaldum is actually not that high-scoring at the moment), we still need to get the ball forwards for them to score- and a quality attacking full back is a great assett in that respect.
But if klopp is going mainly 433 this year then he may feel an attacking fullback is not so essential.


22.) 31 Jul 2016
31 Jul 2016 01:33:11
I just want a full back who can defend. Héctor please. We have plenty of options for goals this year.


23.) 31 Jul 2016
31 Jul 2016 03:04:57
Listen if we could have got the cheaper option we would have, we didt so now we pay more because we have to buy a more finish article. To me this makes sense, and actually am happy with, as forced to buy the better full back, rather than one who is ready in 2-3 years.
Imo buy both and sell Moreno.
With current fee going about its about spot on valuation.

{Ed001's Note - why is Hector a better full back? If he was better, why was he not first choice? We didn't go for the 'cheaper option', we went for the best fit and messed up, now we are going for back up choices.}


24.) 31 Jul 2016
31 Jul 2016 05:39:39
If it turns our weakest position into a strong position then I don't think it's matters whether is 10 mil or 30 mil. We've done the rest of our buying so lest just get the best available player out there that we can.


25.) 31 Jul 2016
31 Jul 2016 12:22:19
mickeyboy I don't think anyone is questioning the value of Hector. What we're all saying is we had another player we were chasing first, hence we're assuming he was the first choice, after all we made bids for Chillwell and not for Hector. That first player could have been bought for half the cost of Hector. But someone figured they'd rather force us to spend 22m than spend 11m. Just plain stupid. Now they're running around without a LB in the bag so people can keep jacking up the prices.


26.) 31 Jul 2016
31 Jul 2016 12:38:09
I don't wish to go against the thoughts of the committee, but why on earth is Chilwell first choice?
The lad has not had much first team experience at all. He's had a few games in the championship. I think it's fair to say, for all his potential, he is untested and therefore a gamble.
Hector is the left back for the world champions. He's the only, ONLY ever present for them last season (including Neuer, Hummells, Özil, Müller etc) . He is known for shunning the fame side of football with little or no (social) media presence. He's captained his Bundesliga side, and he's worked his way up through the lower levels of football. To me he's a solid, dependable professional. He's like the left back version of Carra but with much better attacking intent and distribution.
Now I m not saying he'll work out as well as Carra, but to me he's the kind of player we should target as opposed to a 19yr old rookie. If he costs double, I think he's probably worth it.
Not disputing that BC was first choice, just questioning the logic.


27.) 31 Jul 2016
31 Jul 2016 13:37:10
@Ron I'd have to agree with you there mate, although I remain unconvinced that Hector will be signed anyway.

Let's wait and see.


28.) 31 Jul 2016
31 Jul 2016 13:40:27
Howled over £12 mill on Chilwell and people believe the club okke splash £23 for Hector.


29.) 31 Jul 2016
31 Jul 2016 14:20:34
For those who say we stupid to not pay 12mil for chilwell and instead pay 23mil for hector. U got to compare relative value. Chilwell is worth at most 8mil for player coming out of youth academy while hector is experienced German international.

{Ed001's Note - yes, relative value. Chilwell was first choice, so you pay what it takes. It is false economy to skimp on him and then pay double. Or stupidity. Whichever way you try and spin it, the end result is the same, a cock up by the club costing it twice as much money (plus a much bigger wage) when it has large debts.}


30.) 31 Jul 2016
31 Jul 2016 15:29:28
I'm not sure it's right to call Hector a defensively-minded full back. Created the second most chances in Europe's top leagues last season.

Moreno created the most. And i'm not saying he isn't a woeful defender because he is. But that might hint at the reason why Klopp was keen to add a youth defender to push moreno and improve him rather than replace him altogether.


31.) 31 Jul 2016
31 Jul 2016 16:05:02
I just wonder whether we always planned to go back for Hector even if BC signed? I wonder if the plan was sign BC, sell Moreno and then get Hector? Perhaps BC got wind of that? I don't know, just a theory not based on any inside information.

{Ed001's Note - Chilwell didn't sign because we would not pay the money, that is all there is to it. We were not willing to meet Leicester's asking price so he signed a new contract there instead.}


32.) 31 Jul 2016
31 Jul 2016 17:44:49
Assuming we were going to do this properly (no guarantees) then if Moreno is toast we'd have to be looking at BC and one other. Would be interesting to understand if BC was the first option and then second would come from a list of several options?


33.) 31 Jul 2016
31 Jul 2016 21:53:02
The club messed up with the Chilwell deal. mWhether he was first choice or not is irrelevant. Buying Hector for double the money we could easily have gotten Chilwell for sounds like the same nonsense way we got Wijnaldum for double what Zeilinski cost (both of who I didn't want) . We have demonstrated our rank incompetence one more time for the world to see when dealing with transfers, end of story. Stop with these false equivalencies and false arguments as we are making ourselves look more stupid in the process.


34.) 01 Aug 2016
01 Aug 2016 00:21:06
Am let's be honest never heard tell of Zelinski and he couldn't get an apoearance as a sub for Poland at the Euro's. Delighted we didn't sign him. I'd have Winjaldum any day forget boyt the price tag. As for chilwell. Who knows if he was first choice. Maybe we went for Hector first but bawljed at the asking price and then went for chilwell and the same thing happened. We'll orob never know. But i would sign Hector before Chilwell any time.


35.) 01 Aug 2016
01 Aug 2016 06:15:48
All this "first choice" stuff is laughable and naive. No decent club worth its weight in gold, when looking for a player at a position, would really go into the marketplace without a number of relatively equal choices! I agree with Ron completely and have said this before, all these people that keep going on about Chilwell are doing so on hearsay and hype pretty much in isolation.

{Ed001's Note - you really have no idea what you are talking about. When you are looking at the high end of the market, there are very few options, you do not have 'a number of relatively equal choices' at all. Especially when you do not have European football to attract the top players. Your posts are becoming laughable in your ignorance of the situation. Chilwell was the number one choice, Amavi being the back up option. We have messed up on both, so we are not scrabbling around trying to find some other way of dealing with the situation, even if it means playing an average right winger at left back.}


36.) 01 Aug 2016
01 Aug 2016 06:17:11
And Wijnaldum is double the player IMO Cincey!


37.) 01 Aug 2016
01 Aug 2016 06:25:13
If I really wanted to move somewhere and my club were holding out for a bit more money I'd make it very clear that I really wanted to go to that club and then put a bit of pressure on that and be rather unhappy if my club never responded! Unless of course I really wasn't as bothered as some might think about moving club, and in which case I'd be as happy signing a new 5 year deal with my current club?! Just putting it out there! All this "wouldn't pay the money for first choice" stuff really it naive and laughable. Maybe we wouldn't pay but that's not an isolated reason for a lad we know little about to have not joined us, I put to you.

{Ed001's Note - oh give it a rest. You are getting embarrassing with your excuses for the club's failings now. You make some ridiculous comment about Wijnaldum being twice the player of Zielinski, even though you have admitted you don't know much about Zielinski, but the club do and chose to go for Zielinski first, even though it was well known Wijnaldum was available.

Then the Chilwell situation is again showing your ridiculous ignorance. The lad had made it plain he wanted to join us, but we would not go anywhere near Leicester's valuation because of it. We tried to play hardball and, as usual, we messed it up. So the lad then decides to sign a new contract because Leicester are refusing to continue talks over him and he figures, rightly, we will have to go sign another left back as we can't go through the season with the useless Moreno and hapless Milner as our left back options. He knows his chance has now gone, so he will stay at Leicester and have a shot at the Champions League instead.

The club is truly awful at recruitment. There is little point making excuses, unless you are happy with mediocrity?}


38.) 01 Aug 2016
01 Aug 2016 06:55:08
I am sure that this won't get posted but it is my last post and last viewing of this laughable website in any case! We are all entitled to opinions and mine like yours Ed are mere opinions. In the short time I have been on this site I have viewed many of the points you make as rather naive and embarrassing too but up to now for me it would have been rather rude to outright say. An editor clearly does not think it rude so I will offer my equal and opposite. However for an editor of a site that often infers knowledge of the inside, little fact for me, to be so critical of the club just generates bad feeling among fans. We need desperately a site that gets behind our club! Best wishes and goodbye.

{Ed001's Note - you give nothing but opinions based on ignorance of what is happening, you are a blind faith child who needs to grow up. The club needs to improve, not have children blindly worshipping it.}


39.) 01 Aug 2016
01 Aug 2016 09:19:13
ED 001, who is we? Is that Ayre that's negotiating like a clown? Or is the problem bigger than that? Sounds 002 is also of the same opinion.

{Ed001's Note - it is bigger than Ayre.}


40.) 01 Aug 2016
01 Aug 2016 09:58:48
F**K me L8 you really are a top class knob.

The Ed's on here have MORE knowledge about this club than ALL of the supposed journalist's PUT TOGETHER!

I would sooner take ANY of the Eds insight into this club than all of these idiots.

As for you. f**k off somewhere else and troll their website.

We don't need your kind here.

Excuse language Ed's put this prat had p*ssed me off.

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