05 Jan 2018 16:43:25
Hearing sunderland are to sign ben woodburn on a six month load deal. Good luck young man go make a name for yourself.

1.) 05 Jan 2018
05 Jan 2018 16:59:01
I really, really hope he hasn't joined Sunderland. That would be the worst possible move for him.

The lad needs to develop, get regular game time, with a competent team that can play to his strengths. Sunderland are an old team, bottom of the table in their league, and have done nothing to suggest they will survive. If Woodburn really does join Sunderland on loan then Liverpool have failed the lad. So many better teams around who would be happy to include him in the team, whether that be as a starter or a rotational player. That would be much better than to join a side who have give up, lack quality, where most of the players do not even take their jobs seriously, just happy to pick up a wage packet and continue with their lives.

Awful choice if this is true, all players that are looking to develop should stay away from Sunderland.

{Ed025's Note - you do know this is woodburn we are talking about and not salah dont you mango?, a half decent young lad who has exactly no chance of breaking into the first team and would be lucky to make the bench at any premier league side, i think its a great move for him as he has a chance of getting regular football..

2.) 05 Jan 2018
05 Jan 2018 17:18:17
I would comment that at Sunderland he would be working under Chris Coleman who gave him his Wales debut, so he does know and he does very highly rate him.

3.) 05 Jan 2018
05 Jan 2018 17:24:42
great choice in my opinion working under his wales boss. win win for both teams.

4.) 05 Jan 2018
05 Jan 2018 17:17:56
Half decent?

{Ed025's Note - i know i am boosting him up a bit there emre...but yes half decent mate..

5.) 05 Jan 2018
05 Jan 2018 17:32:41
The key is him getting game time in a competitive league of professionals, and with Coleman there he has a good shot of that with at Sunderland. It doesn’t matter if it’s with a top side of or not, arguably a tough relegation scrap for 6 months will teach him even more! Good move for the lad and hope he learns a lot from it and helps out their side with a few goals.

{Ed025's Note - totally agree grobs mate..

6.) 05 Jan 2018
05 Jan 2018 17:36:27
I wasn't talking about the Premier League, ED025. I was talking Championship, as that is where I believe Woodburn should test himself out at first. However, Sunderland for me is the wrong team to aid his development. A young player needs to play with decent players so that he can get the best out of himself, he needs to join a team whose fans are not on the teams back and hurling abuse, a team that can compete and have a fighting mentality, if not a winning one.

Sunderland to me is the wrong choice. The only positive I can see is that if Woodburn joined Sunderland then his former Wales manager will support and be behind him. That and Woodburn will have to learn how to deal with expectation and pressure. However while Coleman is the right manager I do not believe he has the players. This is not the Wales national team, Woodburn will be playing with people like John O'Shea (Who no longer cares about football considering his medal cabinet), Jack Rodwell (A man who threw his career away for money) and Lee Cattermole (A man who is and was a safe best to get red carded every game) .

That is not quality, that is players at the end of their careers stuck at the club because nobody else wants them. That is the kind of players Woodburn will be playing alongside.

Just my two cents though, I hope if the deal goes through everything will go according to Woodburn and Liverpool's plan but I do doubt it myself.

{Ed025's Note - i have to disagree mango, as grobs on another post said it will do him the world of good to be in a side that may be struggling, it will show what hes made of and believe it will be a good platform to learn his trade rather than the comfort of liverpools reserves, just my opinion of course mate..

7.) 05 Jan 2018
05 Jan 2018 17:49:09
Can't see Woodburn getting a game here. Much different class at every position to get thrown in like Ibe, Sterling etc. And more will come in next year. Still think Ben can have a career with us if we gets footy for a couple years in the bottom of prem as a starter.

8.) 05 Jan 2018
05 Jan 2018 17:59:44
Well said ed25! Good way to build character, I think it was ed02 said something recently about learning more in a loss than in a win!
Good luck to him.

{Ed025's Note - good luck indeed mate..

9.) 05 Jan 2018
05 Jan 2018 18:06:17
Top young player, needs a move and Coleman will look after him. Think he's as good as anything to come from the academy in years he's comparable to Sterling. Let him get senior games till May and see where he is in the summer.

10.) 05 Jan 2018
05 Jan 2018 18:14:32
We said the same about Ibe and look what happened to him.

11.) 05 Jan 2018
05 Jan 2018 18:18:36
Great move for him in my opinion. Going to play for a manager who knows him very well, knows what he's all about. Sunderland have a fantastic fan base could become a favourite quite easiy, Get his confidence up. Could be the making of the boy. No doubt he's a great talent but not going to get to show it if he stays at liverpool.

12.) 05 Jan 2018
05 Jan 2018 18:33:47
So is every young player an ibe now? although if every half decent academy player was sold for £15million we'd be doing ok.

13.) 05 Jan 2018
05 Jan 2018 19:01:26
What about Ibe? He went on loan to Derby and came back a better player. Whatever has happened to him since at Bournemouth has nothing to do with his loan at Derby!

14.) 05 Jan 2018
05 Jan 2018 22:35:00
Ibe was ruined here not outside and/ or by the player he already is. Woodburn could turn out different so at least give the lad a chance. Oh and Ibe isn't doing too badly considering ge is still playing at the top level of domestic football.