28 Nov 2015 14:22:44
Hi eds
Could anyone enlighten us as to why Illori is not featuring for villa? Thanks.

1.) 28 Nov 2015
28 Nov 2015 14:33:08
If he´s not featuring in their lineup then he´s probably not better than the first team center backs.

{Ed002's Note - They deem him not good enough and not fit enough - he remains the messiah to many Liverpool fans.}

2.) 28 Nov 2015
28 Nov 2015 16:31:27
Illori was in imperious form during the euro u21 competition. Not sure why he was not given a chance. But generally british managers do look at size before skill and illori do look a little lightweight. I will compare him as a Portuguese Cannavaro.

3.) 28 Nov 2015
28 Nov 2015 16:56:28
Ed001 likes him as footballing centre back.

4.) 28 Nov 2015
28 Nov 2015 17:13:49
So does Klopp who wanted him at BVB so is he stupid as well? No one called him a messiah, IMO. All many of us want is for him to be given a chance and nothing more. He was great for the Portuguese team as well or is that coach stupid too? Don't really care if he isn't playing at Villa because they're as good as down and no new manager is going to gamble his job on a player he doesn't know. It was a pointless loan that has done nothing for him hence, Klopp will bring him back next season and then, we will see if he's good enuff, IMO.

5.) 28 Nov 2015
28 Nov 2015 17:16:37
All ed001 wanted is for him to be given a chance and then suddenly so did almost every user here. Funny that. Must admit I've seen one game of his for granada and he played vs Messi pretty well. I cannot imagine that Klopp will let him go without giving him half a chance unless his wages are too high.

6.) 28 Nov 2015
28 Nov 2015 17:32:33
To be fair ed is right. The boy hasn't played a competitive game for us nor has he lite up at any of the clubs he has been on loan at, yet the us fans go on and on about him like he is a top 5 in the world cb.

Imperious form in the u21 tournament? Come on.

7.) 28 Nov 2015
28 Nov 2015 17:33:08
No Ed nobody here is calling him the Messiah. All we are asking/wondering is why he wasn't give a real proper chance with the 1st team. Now if it doesn't work out after been given a chance than fair enough but all most of the fans ask is that he gets a fair crack.

8.) 28 Nov 2015
28 Nov 2015 18:02:04
To be fair to him, we bought him 2-3 years ago and he is to yet start in a competitive game.

If I was him I'd quite like to play.!

9.) 28 Nov 2015
28 Nov 2015 18:33:08
For the record an number of fans were calling for him to be give a chance long before ed01 mentioned it lately.

10.) 28 Nov 2015
28 Nov 2015 19:32:09
Lots of reasons why he might not be playing at Villa that could have nothing to do with ability, the loan with option to buy deal might have some terms Villa worry about meeting as well.

11.) 28 Nov 2015
28 Nov 2015 21:18:27
This is a player we've scouted, sought out and paid 7 million for. The least we could have done is give him a run out. Rodgers just decided he didn't fancy him which was much the same with sakho until he had no choice but to play him and proved totally wrong.

12.) 28 Nov 2015
28 Nov 2015 21:34:37
BR has ruined that boy's career to the point of nausea. He made promises to him to give him a chance and then ships him out on loan to a team as poor as they come like Villa with manager who's just as incompetent as him. The loan was a waste of time and again, my hope is that Klopp gives him a chance next year. At least, the fact that he wanted him at BVB shows he sees something in him.

13.) 29 Nov 2015
28 Nov 2015 16:23:41
Ed, I've also found it strange that so many posters here would sell their soul to get Ilori back.
Not having seen him train or playing at PL level i couldn't give my opinion on it, however I would have to presume that two villa managers and BR seem to have agreed that he wasn't good enough but some fans think he should be first choice for us?

14.) 29 Nov 2015
29 Nov 2015 10:53:17
Illori is much in the mould of the like of Varane (obviously not as good) . However when you're in a scrap for relegation managers tend to lean towards the big strong brutes rather than the elegant CB.

{Ed002's Note - No, it is because he isn't good enough.}

15.) 29 Nov 2015
29 Nov 2015 12:50:21
"Given a chance"? Just because you are young and have showed potential doesn't mean you should automatically be given "a run out". We, and indeed all clubs are in the business of trying to win matches. They're not in the habit of playing players just to see what happens, especially if said player has shown nothing in training to inspire confidence from the manager in selecting him.

It's fair enough we want players like the Teixera's and Brannagans of this world to be given first teams games here and there to bring them through. It's because they have consistantly shown they deserve it. What has Ilori ever shown either with us, or when on loan?

You earn a spot in the first team. You don't get it handed on a plate.