04 Feb 2017 11:47:16
Defenders Liverpool have signed since FSG bought the club:

Sebastian Coates, Jose Enrique, Mamadou Sakho, Tiago Ilori, Kolo Toure, Alberto Moreno, Dejan Lovren, Nathaniel Nathaniel Clyne, Joe Gomez, Ragnar Klavan, Joel Matip and the loan signings of Aly Cissokho, Steven Caulker and Javier Manquillo.

Just looking at the above list, no wonder Liverpool have a defence which is not up to scratch. 14 defenders since the 2011/ 12 season and only 6 remain pending Sakho's exit this coming summer.

Matip has been a breath of fresh air. The only other players who can really be classified as a 'success' are Sakho but ended up digging a hole for himself and Toure. Gomez has been limited due to injuries so we will have to see how things go for him pending if he can stay fit.

Lovren I am afraid is no better than what we had, he has improved some aspects of his game but has been shown up time and time again.

Other than that, we have either overpaid for players and made pointless money wasting loans. Hopefully going forward we sign defenders with the aim of improving the squad, not just add players to fill gaps.


1.) 04 Feb 2017
04 Feb 2017 12:05:39
People really have a short memory of sakho. He was as shaky as they come, silly fouls, lunges and miss kicks.


2.) 04 Feb 2017
04 Feb 2017 12:17:55
More evidence of really poor scouting.


3.) 04 Feb 2017
04 Feb 2017 12:19:22
I would agree with that Benny. He's no Van Dijk😉😉!


4.) 04 Feb 2017
04 Feb 2017 12:20:01
I would rather have Sakho lining up next to Matip compared to Lovren. That is just my opinion of course. Pity Sakho could not grow up and face the mistakes he made putting the club into disrepute after the club had fully backed him with the drug ban saga.

Lovren is as shaky and mistake driven as they come.

{Ed025's Note - lovren is better than klaven though max..mind you thats not saying much mate..


5.) 04 Feb 2017
04 Feb 2017 12:25:53
Got to disagree with that view benny, off the field issues aside, and looking past the fact he moves awkwardly but is not actually awkward he was by a long way our strongest cb last year. the potential partnership of himself and Matip could have been formidable but sadly because of his own actions it won't be. This doesn't take away from his ability though our best cb after Matip and would have been his ideal partner. Your assessment of him seems ridicukous, shaky as they come, he held our threadbare defence together and played with Moreno beside him and Mingo behind him it wasnt him who looked shaky.


6.) 04 Feb 2017
04 Feb 2017 12:57:36
100% agree with you Benny. For everything good sakho would do he'd then have a brain fart and do something stupid. I know ed 01 and others have better reading of players than me but I could never see how people thought he was so brilliant. Good yes but brilliant no. Every time he had the ball at the back and was passing out I'd be nervous as hell even though most people said he was the best passing defender we had, but you know what they say- opinions are like arses, everyone has one and this is mine.


7.) 04 Feb 2017
04 Feb 2017 12:30:12
Klavan did not cost an arm and leg though. At the price Lovren came in at he should be above and beyond Klavan which is not the case. Not Lovren's fault for the club signing him at an over inflated price but surely Klavan next to Matip would make no difference compared to Lovren next to Matip.

The only solution is to finally start getting things right in the transfer market.


8.) 04 Feb 2017
04 Feb 2017 12:30:12
Klavan did not cost an arm and leg though. At the price Lovren came in at he should be above and beyond Klavan which is not the case. Not Lovren's fault for the club signing him at an over inflated price but surely Klavan next to Matip would make no difference compared to Lovren next to Matip.

The only solution is to finally start getting things right in the transfer market.


9.) 04 Feb 2017
04 Feb 2017 14:12:51
Sakho was like bambi on ice. He improved a lot under klopp like so many of the squad, but he was always dodgy at the back.


10.) 04 Feb 2017
04 Feb 2017 14:22:08
So you are suggesting to buy a few more and cross the 20 number mark? We need defenders but we also need to know how hot to defend. This team as a whole cannot defend.


11.) 04 Feb 2017
04 Feb 2017 14:12:40
Largely bargain basement though, that's the real reason.


12.) 04 Feb 2017
04 Feb 2017 19:40:29
OP, FSG don't select the players or defenders that get signed. managers do so if they are poor, the managers are your prob, not FSG. Just saying.