24 Sep 2017 10:46:37
Ed1, excellent match review. One question though: on a scale of 1 to 10, how likely is it that Klopp drops Mignolet and realises Ward is the best keeper at the club?

Cheers in advance.

{Ed001's Note - 3.66r.}

1.) 24 Sep 2017
24 Sep 2017 10:53:06
Slightly higher than a third ed? There's hope!

2.) 24 Sep 2017
24 Sep 2017 10:54:06
Why do you think that he is so blindly faithful to Mignolet? Is it because he doesn't rate Karius and Ward?

{Ed002's Note - It is because Klopp has not skillset related to buying nor coaching defensive players, overlaid with him saying stupid things such as "Karius is number one" (last season) and "Mignolet is number one" (this season). And don't forget, Klopp named a fourth goalkeeper in the Premier League squad.}

3.) 24 Sep 2017
24 Sep 2017 11:03:16
Do you think he now feels 'duty-bound' to back him then?
I'm assuming the 4th gk is Bogdan?

{Ed002's Note - I rather doubt it Nick. Last season he made it clear about Karius being number one and he was hardly used in the end. I know fans consider him to be a "world class" coach, but frankly he isn't. He really needs help sorting out the defence and good defensive coach will I am sure improve thym. Rodgers also kept away from having a defensive coach and at this point in his Liverpool career the club were getting better results. His decision making with buying defensive players (he credits himself with Caulker, Karius, Matip and Klaven whilst admits scouting staff have identified the forward players for him to look at (remember he took on alternatives to thos he picked) has been poor. The Sakho situation was handled very badly indeed. Other sides have benefitted from the improvements that defensive coaches have given them - Arsenal with the likes of Bould and for a short while Keown, Liverpool for a short-period with Stevie Clarke under Dalglish even, Dennis Lawrence reshaped the Everton defence, Chelsea has Luca Conte, etc., etc.. From my perspective they need to do something if they are going to challenge - which they are clearly more than capable from an attacking point of view. And yes, Bogdan is in the squad.}

4.) 24 Sep 2017
24 Sep 2017 11:01:18
Excellent review Ed. The way you described Migs performance yesterday was 1st class. I started playing football at 7 and we were always thought to win the ball 1st even if you have to take your own man with it you make sure you win the ball. The way that you worded the review about Migs is excellent surely it's only a matter of time before Karius or Ward get's in. As for Wijaldum again a perfect review Ed.

{Ed001's Note - thank you mate. It is difficult to find different things to say now about some of the players!}

5.) 24 Sep 2017
24 Sep 2017 11:07:52
Didn't he buy Hummels for Dortmund? I'd say that was a decent little pick out ed?

{Ed002's Note - No. Is this some sort of joke?

Hummels joined Dortmund at the behest of Zorc because then manager Thomas Doll needed the defence strengthened as the club were dropping down the table. Klopp wasn't even at the club at the time.}

6.) 24 Sep 2017
24 Sep 2017 11:09:10
He is probably hoping that more competition for the position will result in better performances?

7.) 24 Sep 2017
24 Sep 2017 11:19:27
Klopp does need help with the GK situation. Playing a GK some people claim he does not rate ahead of Karius (his own signing and proclaimed No.1) and Ward (a player he refused to let leave on loan) is just sheer stupidity. I don't buy the 'phasing out' that Ed001 says is happening. Klopp needs to show some b***s and ignore what the media says about bringing Karius back into the fold and just do it. No coach repeatedly plays a player he does not rate (Migs), so unless Klopp has lost his marbles completely, he should take help to solve the GK situation before we end up with 3 unhappy GKs at the club.

{Ed002's Note - Klopp has announced Mignolet as his number one goalkeeper for this season. Move on.}

8.) 24 Sep 2017
24 Sep 2017 13:47:11
You don't think klopp is a top manager ed02? I nearly always agree with the eds but on this I can't. Those 4 games we didn't win were not down to klopp. In each game the tactics created tonnes of chances, the players missed those chances sadly. If we weren't creating then I'd be worried. In one breath you slate the signings like klavan caulker and then say that the reason klopp has bought good players (ie mane salah I guess) is because the scouts find them for him. So it's their fault that we signed klavan caulker, right?

{Ed002's Note - I am not talking about those last four games. I am saying what I have said for years - Klopp is not the world class manager you think he is. You didn't read what I said in the post about the players.}

9.) 24 Sep 2017
24 Sep 2017 14:35:39
superred what has kloop achieved larely to be considered world class? . how many trophys? how many teams he started from scratch and made them world beaters?

10.) 24 Sep 2017
24 Sep 2017 18:02:08
Lol why would you worry if the players weren't creating no chances. It's just like the players at the back not stopping goals. You mean the scouts force Klopp to sign those players! A manager can say NO to any transfer!

{Ed025's Note - thats not actually true harry..

11.) 24 Sep 2017
24 Sep 2017 18:47:46
not world class but has the potential to be. klopps biggest problem at liverpool was thinking he could win things with rodgers squad. Things are slowly improving as new players arrive. now we just need to replace the keeper and get a good defender or 2.

Im fine with matip, but lovren does not suit us at all. he's been mediocre since he joined. and klavan was bought with chump change who's quality actually reflects the money we paid for him. A class keeper and a class defender could make us a proper team.

we are only going to improve as migs eventually gets replaced, keita arives and a quality defender bought. We are definitely improving dispite the defence still being crap. Once we invest some serious money in defence and get some quality players for once, then we can judge klopp fairly.

{Ed025's Note - but he has had plenty of time already ryan and refused to address the keeper or defence situations mate, if your fine with matip then your not quite as savvy as your username suggests mate..

12.) 24 Sep 2017
24 Sep 2017 19:13:14
Klopp does seem a bit ignorant thinking he can turn poor players into good ones but we've definitely went forward since he joined. It does seem he's learning. Im happy we are no longer playing milner at left back and other players are finally being considered. there's an obvious plan in place to enventually replace migs. A quality defender was tried in the summer, its not like he doesn't recognise the problems.

Its easy to aprreciate matip when you have players like lovren and klavan. I think matip should be tried with a quality centerback before we think about replacing him. At the very least he's a decent squad player.

13.) 24 Sep 2017
24 Sep 2017 20:31:25
Wiseryan, I don't buy that whole notion of Klopp trying to win things with BR's players. That makes little sense as he has nothing to gain by focusing on BR's signings whereas he can get his own. He may try to improve some of them as they are talented by empirical evidence, he has improved several of them like Can, Lallana, Hendo, and Origi. Even Cou got better while Lovren and Moreno went from crap to decent (not a high bar but still) . The ones who could not hack it are gone or will be gone. What he needs to do now is continue to improve the squad with the right players who fit the way we play and not stop gaps as those don't work.

I do agree that Matip is decent but that is it. Partnering him with a better CB like say VVD, could be interesting cos in a CB partnership, being able to make up for each other's flaws in quality, having a good understanding of what each other's strengths and weakness and being able to compliment each other is more important. We shall see.

14.) 25 Sep 2017
24 Sep 2017 23:52:03
Bingo, I remember back when klopp signed he thought the squad was good enough and told the owners he could make it work, one of the reasons klopp was chosen as manager apparently.

Obviously that's meant klopp has had to give the players time to fully assess them which meant it was always going to be a rocky time. Klopp took this challenge knowingly but really did overestimate our squad. If he were at a richer club, he would have just replaced the players not good enough by now.