27 Sep 2017 12:47:44
Just on Karius ( or maybe not)

Don't agree with the switching of keepers but that is not the real issue .

On last nights self destruct goal. Emre put the team completely on the back foot with a firstly poorly executed pass back to Trent, while secondly not even looking at the situation. He had eight touches in this moment so should have been aware of his surrounds . This passage results in a free kick ( justified or not they happen on the edge of the box when you are scrapping due to being under pressure, if Courts is trying to make clearances then we are scrapping) HERE IS THE IMPORTANT THING. Cann breaks the wall by jumping and twisting and leaving the hole the ball goes through . If the wall had stood still, it would have stopped that free kick . Agree that Karius should do better but the wall he lined up did not do its job . Worryingly as per all season not one player loses the plot . Not one player goes ape Shyte at stupid mistakes . They all just shrug their shoulders and walk off . It's been the same all season and it's not just down to personnel . The defenders and midfielders we have might not be the finished articles but if they are not drilled these errors will continue . Seville game we got caught out from a throw in, Champions league is always multi ball so expect quick throw ins . How much practice are we doing on this little detail as an example .
The long and short is we either have players not carrying out what they have worked on in training on to the pitch. OR we aren't working on these things to begin with . ITS ONE OR THE OTHER?


1.) 27 Sep 2017
27 Sep 2017 13:21:35
How much have liverpool really trained in the last fortnight. It takes two days to recover after 90 minutes. 3/ 4 days for guys like Milner. I'm sure they are going to melwood but they can't be really working on defencive tactics practically.


2.) 27 Sep 2017
27 Sep 2017 13:32:17
2 days to recover after every 90 mts of football? So what are they working at melwood, Attacking tactics?


3.) 27 Sep 2017
27 Sep 2017 13:49:37
Matip and Lovren seem to always be missing from training.


4.) 27 Sep 2017
27 Sep 2017 15:01:43
Spot on James. Karius gets the blame but the wall didn't do it's job. Although I thought the ball went a small height over Mane's head rather than through the wall) . Karius was a bit flat footed too, but the ball went in the wall's side of the goal. It's frustrating that to commentators and the media our keepers can do no right and our attackers can do no wrong.


5.) 27 Sep 2017
27 Sep 2017 17:48:06
2 days recovery for young, fit athletes?
Not a chance they need two days off every time.

Milner is only 31, he plays 10 to 30 minutes maybe, so he certainly wouldn't need 3 or 4 days off.
Even if he completes a full match, he'll take one, maybe two days recovery and by recovery I mean they still go into Melwood and do warm down sessions, massages etc.

Obviously they'll get days off too from time to time, but certainly not what is suggested above!


6.) 27 Sep 2017
27 Sep 2017 18:43:32
OIrish you have missed the point that the reason they are fit young athletes is because they are now properly managed. You've also misunderstood what recovery time actually means. It doesn't mean sitting on their butt doing a great deal of £&@" all. Active recovering is what they now do. You also have to take into account the structure of the match day (s) . For example if the squad has a 10 hour journey, a late evening kick off with a night time finish and a long return journey, then realistically those players are not expected to be doing any training the next day as it will already be taking place by the time the travelling is done. Then the following day they will be given recovery activities to take part in that help keep their physical state where it needs to be and any niggles will be looked at. That is 2 days without football drills not 2 days of doing nothing. This is standard across most clubs not an LFC thing. Also the day before a match they lighten up training. Meaning the number of sessions per week to work on specific items are limited and not every session per day is available to work on just one thing.


7.) 27 Sep 2017
27 Sep 2017 19:03:52
Mate, don't worry, I have a bit of knowledge in that field and the dietary field.
I have trained professional athletes in a previous profession before my current one, I'm not a spring chicken sadly.
I did mention that they do warm down sessions/ massages, did you fail to see that in my post?
I have never said they do nothing on recovery days buddy, you need to read my post again I would suggest as I think you have missed my point entirely, as I was correcting the time of recovery that was suggested by another poster higher up the thread.
The day before matches they work on match specific tactics and perform various drills.
What kind of training are you suggesting I was on about and where did I say it?
I think you have misunderstood my post or simply not read it Freshst.