23 Oct 2017 00:03:02
Why are we making Spurs invincible? How much have they spend compared to us over the years. If it's not money then what is that taking them forward? Good and sensible recruitment? Tactically astute manager? A very thin squad that has only gone upwards since the bale debacle!

{Ed001's Note - stability, allowing them to build over time, rather than everyone throwing the baby out with the bathwater every two years when they are not top of the league. It helps that the fans are behind them.}


1.) 23 Oct 2017
23 Oct 2017 05:32:22
The coaching staff must clearly be working on the defensive side. Did ED01 once mention that they're doing the training and putting it into action, but only in training? That once they're in a game they seem to make the same basic errors? If so, surely it's mentality along with sub-par personnel? Klopp was a defender, I don't believe he's clueless with defensive coaching.
So, why are we not seeing improvements?
I must say it's disappointing to see so many people calling for Klopp's head. I can understand the frustrations, but who comes in right now and makes things better? Klopp didn't instruct Lovren to not be goal side of Kane for the first goal. Or for Matip to stand still, put his hand up and pray for the offside flag when he should have instantly attempted to cover. Did Klopp tell Migs to rush out? NO. But what he did do was pick these players time and again, so clearly there is some responsibility there.
Do we replace migs with Karius or Ward? Give Gomez a run next to Matip? Get Grujic in the mid for some presence? Robertson in for Moreno? Give young Solanke a start?


2.) 23 Oct 2017
23 Oct 2017 06:59:22
Burkey haven't you answered your own question, it is a mental issue. How many goals have been conceded over the last 2 seasons due to players switching off? You can teach someone to defend and they look like they get it but only when it is under real pressure can you see if they ever will. Plus they have shown signs of improvement with the clean sheets. It is a slow process. Personally I'd take these losses to the top 5 if we went unbeaten and mainly won against the other 14 clubs. Don't forget not so long ago we were doing these scorelines to the likes of Arsenal and Spurs.


3.) 23 Oct 2017
23 Oct 2017 08:30:18
I agree, partly mental, partly players. The problem with your position of taking these defeats if we win the rest is that we haven't been winning the rest, quite the opposite in fact.
What changes would people make though? Forgot to mention Ings who I wouldn't mind seeing on the bench.


4.) 23 Oct 2017
23 Oct 2017 08:49:30
Spot on, Details. Burkey, Ed01 has repeatedly said that Klopp and his coaches are doing the very best to coach them up BUT clearly, they are not getting it. He wants to replace the CB's BUT the scouting dept. is making a mmockery of this as they cannot find the players he wants which is why he took issues into his own hands and tried to get VVD himself (Ed01's info) . Tapping up is bad BUT this is where it has gotten to. He is doing his best but is severely hamstrung, scouting wise.

Spurs are not invincible as they have not beaten us in 10 games in all comps. before yesterday. Look at how many errors had to happen for them to win last night. 4 gifts and Migs's typical contribution to their cause. The issues at this club are systemic and predate Klopp so those having a go at him excessively (he bears some of the blame, I agree) should sit down and think before posting.


5.) 24 Oct 2017
24 Oct 2017 08:28:08
Yep that is the one flaw, if we don't avoid defeat and get the wins against the weaker sides.