26 Oct 2017 19:45:54
Eds, will the Liverpool staff we aware of stats that you see threw around social media such as the fact that no player in the past 3 years has made as many direct mistakes leading to goals than Simon Mignolet, or that he has the lowest save percentage of any goalkeeper in 2017/ 18 and the 3rd lowest in 2016/ 17? Does these stats prove anything as I know your not a stat person.

{Ed002's Note - no, they are largely irrelevant- Klopp will continue to do what he thinks is best.}

1.) 26 Oct 2017
26 Oct 2017 21:37:36
Personally don’t see how you can ignore such stats it’s all relative but in most walks of life your judged on results vs targets set and how you do compared vs your peers. Appreciate it’s different in football terms but there fairly damning stats.

2.) 27 Oct 2017
26 Oct 2017 22:57:00
We don't need stats to see Migs isn't good at the moment.

3.) 27 Oct 2017
27 Oct 2017 00:15:33
He’s a great lad Migs but an average keeper. No matter what the stats say that is the truth.

4.) 27 Oct 2017
27 Oct 2017 08:44:07
The problem is with stats, and this is in all walks of life, you can find some stat to back up pretty much any opinion if you look hard enough. I am sure if I looked, I could find a few positive stats for Mignolet.

5.) 27 Oct 2017
27 Oct 2017 09:25:20
Please do piffmunda, you will really struggle to do that i guarantee it mate, the only stat that will look good for him is his penalty saving stat that's about it.

His distribution is league 2 quality and i am being too fair to him on that one.
His shot stopping is appalling in anyway you look at it, his ratio of goals conceded to shots faced is among the lowest in europe's 5 top leagues.
His reactions to through balls (sweeper keeper) are nonexistent
His command of his area : NONEXISTENT
Organizing a defense and shouting orders: NONEXISTENT
His dealing with crosses: Flaps at almost everything and can't even box a ball away.
So his only 1 decent attribute is completely useless because we don't face that many penalties through a season, maybe 2-3!

6.) 27 Oct 2017
27 Oct 2017 09:54:55
Piffmunda - that is true generally. Which tends to mean that when stats are so irrefutable there is no way to spin them to your advantage, it's a bad situation.

7.) 27 Oct 2017
27 Oct 2017 22:27:51
Don’t worry. I was not defending him. I was trying to make the point that stats can be used to persuade away from truth in some cases, example, where someone pick 2 random stats out and all of a sudden that is considered proof to an argument/ opinion. I am sure that the stats will say Mignolet makes us a worth team overall but I am sure there are many cases where a player has had some poor stats / records but then has come good in a different system etc. Put Mignolet in a team which plays generally more defensive and his stats would be better, that is guaranteed.