15 Feb 2018 11:45:01
In the last 8 seasons at Real Madrid, Ronaldo has averaged 49 appearances a season. His highest total is 55. In his last 4 seasons at United he was making similar appearance figures with a high of 53.

If we get to the Champions league final and Bobby and Salah play every single game we have left, the most they can finish the season on is 54 appearances.

That doesn't include the fact that he plays nearly every game for Portugal, whereas Firmino rarely gets off the bench for Brazil. Ronaldo has made 75 international appearances since joining Madrid which works out at about another 9 games a season on average.

In that time frame at Madrid Ronaldo has been the most prolific player in the world averaging more than a goal a game and racking up over 100 goals in the Champions League. He's won 2 league titles, 3 Champions Leagues and a European Championship; as well as 4 Balon D'or awards.

So i will never agree with any argument that Salah and Firmino need a rest no matter what excuses people make. They are young enough and fit enough to play every game, and if they ever hope to be regarded world wide as some of the best in the world, they should not be getting rested for Champions League games; irrespective of who they play in the league 4 days later.

We've been out of the Champions League for so long that I'm concerned people have lost sight of how huge it is; however i appreciate that these people just really want to win the Man United game. We have a reputation as one of the greatest teams in the history of the European Cup though. Every single game in Europe is massive in terms of our image. Without our European pedigree, we have no claim to being the best team in England, because Man United totally eclipse us domestically.

So it is just very hard for me to listen to people suggest we take a game in Europe for granted and rest players. I apologise if i offended anyone as i did lose my cool a bit, but this competition means so much to me. I'm 24 years old. It is the only major I've ever seen us win in my lifetime, and i can't fathom the idea of us not treating every game in it as the most important game of the season. I do understand the reasoning behind resting players, i just don't agree with it. But i will conclude the debate here, and agree to disagree lads. Feel free to have your last say in reply though, i just won't be adding any more to the discussion. Apologies again though. Some of my words were too strong.

We won 5-0 at the end of the day and should be celebrating together 😂.


1.) 15 Feb 2018
15 Feb 2018 11:52:38
I doubt Klopp will be resting anyone until the tie against Porto is secured in the second half of the second leg. So it doesn't really matter if anyone else think he should.


2.) 15 Feb 2018
15 Feb 2018 12:05:55
Ronaldo is one of if not the fittest players in the world though, not fair to compare other players to him, especially Firmino who packs on a stone or two each preseason lol.


3.) 15 Feb 2018
15 Feb 2018 12:05:05
resting a player isn't just about them not running more miles it can be things like avoiding the potential for injury or picking up a booking.

Think about it Salah or VVD picks up a booking against porto in a game we just have to not let 5 goals then they risk suspension in a much more important game later on.

Remember players like Scholes missed the final because of bookings in earlier rounds

Also Ronaldo is super human and his recovery routine is crazy. Ice baths at 3 in the morning once he gets off plans crazy.


4.) 15 Feb 2018
15 Feb 2018 12:05:05
resting a player isn't just about them not running more miles it can be things like avoiding the potential for injury or picking up a booking.

Think about it Salah or VVD picks up a booking against porto in a game we just have to not let 5 goals then they risk suspension in a much more important game later on.

Remember players like Scholes missed the final because of bookings in earlier rounds

Also Ronaldo is super human and his recovery routine is crazy. Ice baths at 3 in the morning once he gets off plans crazy.


5.) 15 Feb 2018
15 Feb 2018 12:28:37
Lol, looks like we’ve all turned into fitness experts for the day.


6.) 15 Feb 2018
15 Feb 2018 12:48:01
you also neglect to appreciate firmino and salah's style of play where they contribute defensively (heavily in bobby's case) .

ronaldo is the perfect athlete as well.

why do we have to make comparrisons? let's just enjoy the fact they're at our club.

even after great results we find things to fall out about as fans or reasons for negativity or worry.


7.) 15 Feb 2018
15 Feb 2018 13:51:11
One plays in less physical league, the other plays in leg breaking league. Case in point Mason.


8.) 15 Feb 2018
15 Feb 2018 14:58:14
Happy Red Pants and Leek are correct.
It’s the knocks you take in matches that take their toll and the premier league is the most physical league in the world imo. We should rest our players if we have the chance.
Why? Look at the last 2 winners of the league - Leicester and Chelsea. Both of them benefited from having fewer games because they weren’t in Europe and both struggled the following season. Fewer games allows more recovery, less fatigue and more consistency.


9.) 15 Feb 2018
15 Feb 2018 16:34:54
He's f@c@i@g fantastic and deserves all the plaudits he gets has to be nominated for player of the year.