1.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 07:24:52
massive thumbs up for the article but especially the choice of pic
just a enquiry mate not sure if your into boxing but have have you ever done a write up on a big match like say an hearns hagler type match or tyson Lewis.
Reckon you would really good at that and I would love to read it mate if you ever did.

{Ed001's Note - I did like boxing, I used to box myself many years ago, but I have never done match reports on boxing. To be honest, I lost interest in boxing because so many of the results just beggar belief and you just know they were fixed fights. Remember the one judge who claimed she couldn't see Lennox Lewis knock (I think) Holyfield round the ring because her view was blocked by Lennox Lewis!}


2.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 07:58:29
Im a massive fan and do remember the judge as it happens lol
it would be great to get a opinion from someone like you
(an ex boxer) on why Eubank Jr keeps making the same mistakes when faced with a boxer who jabs and moves.
out of interest mate who is your number on heavyweight boxing of all time.

{Ed001's Note - has to be the original Jack Johnson, as he changed the sport, not just being the first black champion but because he introduced new concepts, such as riding punches and making statements to the press to wind up opponents. Basically Ali was very much a copy of Johnson, though with the advantage of being able to improve on his concepts, I still would have to say the guy who originates something has to be better to develop it on, rather than just improving on what is there. Especially when you remember fights went on until a knockout in his day, so they could go many more rounds and the gloves were much lighter, so they were taking more punishment as well.}


3.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 08:42:29
Love Boxing myself, favourite fighter at the minute is Lomachenko, if you haven't seen him watch him now I think he may go down as the GOAT.

Eubank Jr could have been a Champion if he listened to the right people but unfortunately he has a father guiding his career who has done him a disservice. How any boxer can expect to be a champion without any type of trainer is foolish.


4.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 08:44:08
My opinion on Eubank Jr, if you're interested John, is that he is vastly over rated. He struggles against anyone who can move, has a good defence, and a good jab because he is a brawler not a boxer. Maybe he should try his hand in MMA?

The only reason he is rated so highly is because of his physique being desirable, his self obsessed training videos exciting the casual fans, and the hype that his name carries thanks to his dads success. Oh and the betting agencies making him a favourite to con their customers.

All he has is speed in his punches. They lack power, calculation and precision. He gets in the ring and just hits people as many times as he can hoping one will land and score points. His footwork is shocking though so he relies heavily on his stamina to just chase people around the ring. He constantly leaves himself open to the jab because all he's interested in is a big brawl.

Honestly? He's just not that good. He should go back to fighting bums in a weight division where he is the biggest fighter, because he simply doesn't have the quality to out-box a proper fighter, or the power to hurt anyone bigger than him.

My favourite boxer (only been watching for 10 years) is probably Tyson Fury. For a guy with no speed and no power, he is an unbelievably gifted boxer. So hard to hit, and keeps his points ticking over with a deceptively quick jab. His footwork is the best I've ever seen and so far, nobody has ever got near him, let alone hurt him. Be interesting if he ever comes back and fights Joshua though because he has that close range powerful uppercut in his locker, that Mike Tyson used to knock out so many people by going under their guard. It'll be even more interesting because Joshua will probably unify the division before Fury is back fit. An all British fight with one a Unified Champion and one the Lineal champion will be the greatest match up in British boxing history.

My favourite of all time is Lennox Lewis though. Proper British sporting legend. Gutted he retired before I was interested in the sport.


5.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 08:58:44
I used to love boxing but stopped following it after around the time Tyson was finished, still watch some of the bigger fights though at times. Though I don't follow it, from what I have seen my favourite boxer at the moment must be Joshua. In history (in my life time) it'd have to be Mike Tyson.

Cheers for the daily update Ed mate.

{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}


6.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 09:07:19
Will have to go and watch some jack johnson footage Ed001 as i admit I don't know a lot about him Ali for me was the greatest but you can't copy someone and be better then the originator that is very true
MK SCOUSER wow mate that about summed it up for me great response thank you very much mate.

{Ed001's Note - it is difficult to find much footage of Johnson, but he is well worth reading about, he was a dick of a guy (but then Ali is a wife beater and still people put him on a pedestal as a great guy) but that just makes him more interesting. It is difficult not to admire the sheer nerve of the guy to say some of the stuff he did in the time he did so. Ali was a great boxer, but pretty much everything he did Johnson had done first in a much more dangerous time to do so.}


7.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 09:09:36
CyKlopps i feel that bxoer has still to be truly tested as the one true test against Nicholas Walters he came to fight and walters tuned into a bottle job.


8.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 09:13:41
To be fair eubank jr was a world champion albeit the smallest brand. Lomachenko is by far the best boxer of his generation and if continues should be in the top ten of all time. If anyone likes boxing but not seen him give it a go on YouTube. Even his workouts are different class.


9.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 09:16:45
Any books you can recommend Ed001 as now im proper interested in this guy.

{Ed001's Note - off the top of my head I can't think of any, though there was a film based (very loosely) on his life story starring James Earl Jones, The Great White Hope. One of Ali's early autobiographies, which I managed to pick up cheap, mentions how he took his style from Johnson, but later versions omit that section. I remembered one and looked it up for you - Unforgivable Blackness it was called. That was an interesting read.}


10.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 09:27:55
I would say Rigondeaux was his biggest test, also a gold medal Olympian, but Lomachenko made him quit on his stool. Ed, posters what was your opinion on Floyd Mayweather Jnr?

{Ed001's Note - hate him but he was a good boxer, great in fact, but he avoided too many fights to ever go down as a great of the sport, no matter what he achieved. If you avoid the best opponents at their peak, then you cannot be considered the best.

Got to ask, who remembers John Conteh and what did people think of him? I will stay out of this one as I am biased with him being a family friend, but I just wondered what people thought of him.}


11.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 09:35:38
ED001 your a top man thank you so much will hunt this down now
and see if I can get hold of one
cheers again mate.

{Ed001's Note - if you can find an old, old copy of Ali's first autobiography in a charity shop or book fair, it is quite interesting when he discusses how Johnson influenced him. Oh and I remember an old boxing magazine I used to subscribe to many years ago, it was a series on great boxers, one of the very first issues was dealing with Jack Johnson and it came with a video of some of his fights. I think it was just called 'The Boxers' or something similar. The footage is not great, but it at least means there is a good chance that footage is around if they had some. The magazine was not too bad a start point, though it did gloss over him a little bit.}


12.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 09:38:43
That's a blast from the past Ed, I wouldn't know but my dad used to speak very highly of John Conteh.

{Ed001's Note - good guy Conteh, shows that no matter what kind of family you come from, you can rise above it if you choose and make something of yourself.}


13.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 09:51:11
Like the legends of football articles you've done Ed, is there any chance you could maybe do a few when you have spare time for legends in boxing? would love to know more about some of the names already mentioned this morning.

{Ed001's Note - ok mate will add that to the to do list. I would enjoy doing one on Joe Louis as he was my grandad's hero. He never got over meeting him during the war, sometimes it felt like he thought the whole thing was worth it just so he could meet the 'Brown Bomber'!!}


14.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 09:53:21
Ed I actually work in boxing both on the promotion and reporting side. I'll just tell you that a lot of judges are purely incompetent rather than fixed nowadays. I also get free tickets to lots of big events if you're ever interested pass on your email and I'll let you know.

{Ed001's Note - I wouldn't argue with you mate, but it is difficult to get over that fixed belief as we all know fighters that have been offered money to throw fights.

Do those events stretch to the UAE mate? I am out here for my health (sun and sea air) and lately my liver has been playing up so doubt I will be back in the UK for a while.}


15.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 09:59:32
That'd be fantastic cheers Ed mate :)

{Ed001's Note - it will be a nice change from the football stuff. Sometimes it is nice to have something different, like they say a change is as good as a rest.}


16.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 10:04:45
Brilliant idea that salah I'd love that if edd 1 gets the time. I can't believe I didn't think of it.

{Ed001's Note - I will post them up on our boxing site, could do with a bit more on there as it has never really taken off.}


17.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 10:10:34
Great assessment of Mayweather Ed. Hated him as a person myself but there was no doubting his talent. The Manny Pacquiao fight was too late in his career I think for him to have any chance with him after he dodged fighting him for so many years. can't wait for your article on the Legends of Boxing, thanks ed.

{Ed001's Note - cheers Cyk, I am looking forward to doing it, might rekindle my enthusiasm for a sport I used to love.}


18.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 10:12:58
Eubank Jr was fighting at too high a weight which meant that he wasn't able to physically dominate Groves like he has to almost everyone else. If he drops down he'll be able to use that brute force to do very well.

But he's not a boxer, he's a muscle bound windmill. He has the speed and power to be very very good but he needs a proper trainer to teach him how to use them, not his fame hungry father running the Eubank Circus.

My favourite fighter at the moment is GGG, his control of fights and unbelievable power make him so exciting to watch. He beat Canello when they last fought (despite what the scorecards said) and he'll beat him again if they fight once more.

Anthony Joshua is living off the Klitschko result and was poor in his last fight. He needs to stop focusing on promotion and learn some ring craft.

On the subject of Joshua's promotion he promotes an incredibly exciting young fighter called Lawrence Okolie, who could go on to be very very successful if given the right training.

Oh and look out for Murat Gassiev. He will win the super series at Cruiserweight and he is only 24. If he can successfully move up to Heavyweight then he may be one to watch out for on the biggest stages shortly.


19.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 11:07:01
Suprised ED2 hasn't barged in saying 'this is the Liverpool page take it elsewhere' hahah ;)


20.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 11:31:17
Lol usually I look up and read about football in the morning quite often, well every day anyway. It's good to have a change from time to time :) been watching some cracking content online this morning, I too may get into it a little more now. Will keep an eye on the boxing page Ed. Thank you mate.

{Ed033's Note - Yes Welsh red376, you could take it to our boxing talk site


21.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 11:32:30
I love GGG RedDawn. He is the most exciting to watch in the sport. His chin is stronger than my relationship. Agree with everything you say on Eubank and Joshua as well.

Joshua is turning into the Ronaldo of boxing. He is plastered all over totally unrelated adverts and products. The difference is Ronaldo is also incredibly focused on his spott. Joshua just needs to focus on the boxing and he could potentially go down as a great. I don't think he is developing as much as he should be though. If the Fury who schooled Klitschko ever comes back fully fit, i think he'll wear Joshua down and stop him in one of the later rounds. Joshua is carrying too much excess muscle as it's crucial to his image, but his stamina is not good as a result. It is a travesty how under rated Fury is, but he doesn't help himself with his behaviour out of the ring. He's a bit of a clown truth be told, but he's the most skilled heavyweight of his generation. Joshua will always have a punchers chance though with that big right hand of his. I really hope that fight happens in a year or two because as you say, Joshua lacks ring craft and it would be good to see him truly tested. A 40 year old nearly knocked him out; the same guy who at a younger age, barely grazed Fury.


22.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 10:55:36
Like you Ed, loved boxing as a kid growing up BUT never boxed (can't take a hit) . I loved Ali and Jack Johnson was a true beast. jack Dempsey and Joe Louis weren't bad either. I did live thru the Thomas hearns-Marvin Hagler-Sugar Ray Leonard-Roberto Duran era where they literally fought each other 2 sometimes 3 times over. Wow, that was the stuff of legends at the time. I loved Mike Tyson as well in his hey day BUT I stopped watching boxing when Tyson fell off and when Riddick Bowe simply refused to fight Lennox Lewis cos to many, he was scared of losing to him after he lost to him in the '88 Olympics. Same with Sugar Ray Leonard who refused to fight Aaron Pryor cos Pryor always smacked him during pre '72 Olympics training camp.

{Ed001's Note - always feels a shame when a boxer ducks a fight.}


23.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 10:58:04
I think AJ struggled in his last fight as a result of Takam being a late replacement. People say takam didn’t have a full training camp but he did because he was due to fight 2 weeks later, so his conditioning was good going into the fight. Takam is a very tough and durable fighter. Wasn’t his best performance but the amount of muscle was an issue. He’s currently cutting his weight for the fight v Parker a fight which I expect him to win inside 6 rounds (no offence to Parker) I simply think AJ will carry more speed than he has since the fight v Martin. AJ will be the unified champ by Easter 2019 then a huge showdown summer 2019 v Fury would be huge.


24.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 12:40:57
Let's not forget the living legend Katie Taylor and what she's done and continues to do for womens boxing. It's obvious I'm a bray lad. Cheers for the info ed1 on jack Johnson. Had no idea that the greatest was so heavily influenced. Hope the warm air is helping and hope your problems pass soon. Personally I think Tyson is the greatest fighter imo, I just wish he'd had better competition during his heyday.

{Ed001's Note - Tyson was a brute at his peak, it would have been good to see him face some truly world class fighters like Ali had to. I am not sure even someone like Ali could have coped with him when he first won the title. Nowhere near the most skilled, but he would run through anything the opponent had to throw and hit with the force of a speeding truck. We will never know if he was a true great though, because his opposition was not in the class of Frazier and Foreman at their peaks.}


25.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 14:59:06
Just to reply to the John Conteh post, I saw a few of his fights, he was so good, great man to train, he lost one major fight, when the other guy had a huge cut over his eye, russian I think, they plastered his eye with cement or something, then gave him the win, talk about a wrong result, John was a brilliant boxer, great jab great punch .

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate, nice to hear.}


26.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 14:59:51
Tyson fury is not a good boxer the guy is a bum! Yes he got a decision against klitschko, only coz he believed his bull in the build up. Good ave seen cruiserweights put the numpty on his back he will never beat aj as long as a have a hole in me arse. And Eubanks jr needs a decent coaching team and get rid of his father because at the mo he just isn't that good simple.


27.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 16:11:07
I hope to see some of you guys on the boxing page as it gets a bit lonely there.
I'll be reading any of Edds writeups when he gets it going.

{Ed001's Note - you lot will have to work on Ed025 to do some as well, he loves his boxing.}


28.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 16:52:55
I happen to think Tyson Fury is a better boxer than AJ.
I don’t think AJ is that good, some of the descriptions of Eubank Jr could be applied to AJ.

A fit Fury would run rings round AJ IMO.

{Ed025's Note - big call that ken, i think AJ would flatten him mate..


29.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 17:34:23
Fury us a much better fighter than joshua when fit. And Ed if we ever have an event in UAE I'll let you know. It doesn't stretch out to Vegas we got a few comps to ggg v canelo last year. We have a small hall show at the York Hall this weekend with a couple of our big up and coming guys. I'll be at Frampton donaire in Ireland later in the year and likely Warrington v Selby unless someone else covers it.

{Ed001's Note - there is quite a big boxing scene over here, we get to see a lot of Amir Khan as he is trying to establish a gym here. Though most here are more into MMA.}


30.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 17:51:59
I remember my dad talking about Jack Johnson, a hell of a boxer, like you said Edo1, in a harder time, especially for black boxers, but he used to say that he didn't like him as a boxer due to how he punished his opponext. In many of his fights he could have beaten them in a few rounds, but he would beat them up instead, as if making them suffer before winning. Jack Dempsey was a class act of what i've seen, the first million dollar fight I'm sure. But Joe Louis and Ali would be in that top 3 heavyweights, hard to narrow down the one to join them :)

{Ed001's Note - I wonder what people think of Rocky Marciano?}


31.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 22:03:12
{Eds Note - post moved to our talk boxing site