30 May 2018 19:49:59
Â£50m plus Clyne for Zaha -
Any takers?

{Ed025's Note - if palace want Â£60m for zaha then it will have to be Â£65m if you are going to burden them with that waste of space mate..

1.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 20:06:16
Charming as usual Ed.

{Ed025's Note - its an opinion based forum den and like it or not mate thats mine..

2.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 20:09:01
If Zaha is worth 60Mil then Clyne is worth 30Mil. ðŸ˜Ž.

{Ed025's Note - zaha in pounds and clyne in turkish lira then we are getting close ArAy..

3.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 20:21:08
If Zaha is worth Â£60m, we better be getting that much for Origi too because he is a better player by far!

{Ed025's Note - if saha gets packed off to an also ran team in germany because he is,nt even considered to be good enough to get on a prem teams bench...then you may have a case MKS..

4.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 20:28:18
The correct currency for both is Japanese Yen, Ed025 ðŸ˜‰.

{Ed025's Note - i cant argue with that mate.. :)

5.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 20:29:52
i don't think we should put him in a swap deal with palace.

I have heard rumours that Everton are looking to put in a Â£25m bid for the England international.

{Ed025's Note - if that happens i will be in the liverpool shop within the hour buying a jordan henderson shirt SR..

6.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 20:31:10
Hahaha class. Clyne can't get passed a man. Boils me always turning back and slowing play down.

7.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 20:43:19
I jest over clyne!

however the real news coming out of goodison is a HUGE Â£40m big on mignolet, they see him as a quality move to get to the next step.

sauce, i heard it from a drunk mans emu.

{Ed025's Note - never trust a drunks emu SR, you tried to get our englands No1 but were given short shrift mate so dont try and palm us off with any of your keepers..

8.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 21:33:05
Just to reinforce my point Ed, 23 year old Origi playing as a bit part player in his first season in a new league as an outsider, got 7 goals and 3 assists.

25 year old Zaha playing every game he was fit, in his 7th season in the English football As the poster boy of his club, got 9 goals and 5 assists.

He's not fit to lace Origi's boots. And I rate Origi as the Belgian Danny Welbeck. Zaha isn't good enough for our u23's.

9.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 21:26:23
Ed025, Origi gets 10 goals a season playing for a top 6 club where the pressure is much higher and he doesn't get a run of games.

Zaha couldn't get near 10 goals a season at United, and barely breaks that tally playing every single game for Palace when every single player is constantly looking for him.

He's not even half as good as Origi. He's just the winger version of Gylfi Sigurdsson. Good at mid table level and bottles it at a big club. How many European knockout stage goals has Zaha got against Borrusia Dortmund or any top team? None. Because scoring against Huddersfield and Swansea to keep Palace up is his level.

I'd rather recall Markovic than sign an ex-Manc who can't handle the spotlight.

{Ed025's Note - lets be honest here MK, origi will not be returning to liverpool or going to any top side because he is poor mate, dont get me wrong i dont exactly think saha is the bees knees but for me he is head and shoulders above divok, looks like we will have to agree to disagree on this one my friend..

10.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 21:47:30
I actually think Zaha would work in our system as he can take a man on and run at the speed of a thousand gazelles but there are better players arround if that's the quoted price.

11.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 21:50:18
MK, youâ€™re losing your credibility. Zaha is the only dangerous player in a poor team. Origi wonâ€™t be back with us. If anyone puts a bid in for him we will bite their hand off.

Zaha didnâ€™t cut it at Man Utd when he was younger but has matured into a much better player now. Remind you if anyone? Not saying heâ€™s in Salahâ€™s class but he is a dangerous player.

12.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 22:01:52
I don't think origi was shipped out cause he couldn't get on our bench. I think it was probably to try get the lad more regular game time. Not saying he is great or anything or the next big thing. But having said that. He is definitely good enough for our bench. Much more of a goal threat than Ings or solanke (atm)

13.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 22:02:56
Red Mersey, my credibility to others matters little to me mate.

I say it as I see it. In his last season for Liverpool Origi hit double figures as a reserve striker and it was seen as not good enough. Zaha just had his best season of his career and got 9 goals.

A forwards job is to score goals and Zaha is a scorer of great goals rather than a great goal scorer. Unfortunately, that means he looks great on highlights despite being well below average. At least Origi is average.

I am not influenced by FIFA ratings, YouTube, MOTD etc. I see Zaha for what he his. Never has been, is not, and never will be good enough. So what if he shines in a terrible team? Shall we sign Arnautovic? Shaquiri? Niasse? Ayew? Jay Rodriguez? They all look like great players in below average teams after all!

14.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 22:32:05
Zaha has played a couple up front but mostly wide, it's not a bad return for a club that didn't win until October or something! Don't rate zaha, but I'd rather him than origi frankly.

15.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 22:44:58
Each to their own Firmane. I'm not so far up my own backside that I'd suggest it dents your credibility just because your opinion is different to mine. Everyone sees the game differently.

Origi has 21 goals in 2 seasons at a Premier League club. Zaha has 25 goals in 5 seasons at a Premier league club. For me, I'd rather have 10 poachers goals a season than 5 great goals. It is personal preferences. Origi also played a lot of games out wide and is 2 years younger. For me neither player is good enough, but Origi is the better player. If that opinion means nobody takes me seriously anymore, than so be it ðŸ‘.

16.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 23:37:06
I'm sorry but zaha plays in a terrible team who score notoriously few goals and you're trying to compare that to when origi was playing with Coutinho and firmino and lallana in a free scoring team? How many did origi score this season? Origi may reach his potential one day and I hope he does but it won't be soon and it won't be with us. I don't want zaha I'd rather have Malcolm dembele pulisic etc but zaha could slip in for mane or salah way better than origi would and would offer more threat.

17.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 23:40:27
You canâ€™t talk about goal stats when comparing a striker to a winger (Donâ€™t class Salah as a winger as he spends more time inside) .

If both players came on the market this summer, I know which one clubs would be scrambling to get.

I apologise for saying you lost your credibility but saying that Origi is twice the player- come on! Maybe Origi would have become the player you think he is if it hadnâ€™t been for that injury. He went on loan for games to rehabilitate him but he just hasnâ€™t taken that opportunity. Iâ€™m sorry but I canâ€™t see him playing for us again, although I do think he is a better option on the bench than Solanke. As we will likely sign someone better to rotate and do that job, it looks like curtains for Origi. A pity as I was delighted when we signed him and had high hopes for him.

18.) 31 May 2018
31 May 2018 00:18:31
I don't think Zaha has the intelligence to play for a huge club. He is a big fish in a small pond and it suits him. I saw an interview with him, he was asked things about changing his daughters nappy and he answered every question like he was the dali lama, a complete idiot. The sort of friend of a friend who keeps asking you out for a pint but his conversation has HOU yawning.

19.) 31 May 2018
31 May 2018 00:54:07
Forgiven Red Mersey, and I have no doubt that most teams would want Zaha over Origi. I also have no doubt that teams would want Hazard instead of Mane though, despite Mane scoring 20 goals in a "bad season". A feat Hazard has never managed in English football. Zaha played most of this season as a striker alongside Townsend in a 4-4-2 though, and even when out wide, he comes just as narrow as Salah does. So 9 goals in 29 games when the team is set up around you really isn't good enough. Origi bettered that coming on as a sub to rescue games, or being thrown into a unfamiliar team in various positions when someone got injured. He has never had a team set up around him like Zaha.

In my humble opinion, some players have a reputation for looking good rather than being good. I'll take an efficient battering ram over a twisting turning show pony. Zaha is just one of those players in my opinion. I'm not saying I'm definitely correct, just that I'd back Origi to cause more problems for opposition teams playing anywhere across our front 3, more so than I'd back Zaha. Especially coming off the bench!

I respect your opinion though and I've no doubt you stand on the same side of the fence of the majority. I've never been afraid of looking the fool though, and I've never been a fan of sitting on the fence! So I can't sugar coat my sometimes controversial opinions, sadly ðŸ˜‰ don't even get me started on Zaha and his diving antics!

20.) 31 May 2018
31 May 2018 01:54:32
I think redwillis has it right. When comparing both players in comparable sides this season they had fairly similar records. The main exception being is that Zaha is not considered the central striker where Origi is.
For me, they play different roles so goal stats is not necessarily the right bench mark to use. Based on what I have seen in sides at a similar level, Zaha is the better player, although I dislike his falling over of thin air. Frankly neither should be in our first team though.

{Ed001's Note - Zaha has played all season as a striker, very few games he played wide. Zaha has no end product except to run and run and run and hope to get someone brush him so he can throw himself to the ground for a penalty. His shooting is wildly inaccurate, as his crossing. If he leaves Palace, where the whole club is built around him, it would be a huge mistake.}

21.) 31 May 2018
30 May 2018 22:05:42
Ed025 surely saha is retired now fact he had to be even to old to be plying his trade in the mls.
Zaha on the other hand is a different player that ad still stay well clear of mate.

{Ed025's Note - when others make a typo im the first to pull them up HB so thanks for keeping me in check mate..

22.) 31 May 2018
30 May 2018 22:07:15
Got to be honest mk, I enjoy reading most of your posts but some of them make me cringe. Ed25 I think you usually give a reasonable unbiased view for a bitter.

{Ed025's Note - im not as bitter as i once was pegleg as age has tempered me somewhat mate, i must say though that even though myself and MK dont agree on everything i have a lot of respect for the guy and think his penmanship is second to none..

23.) 31 May 2018
31 May 2018 07:14:03
MK, love you buddy but this is one of those red tinted glasses moments. Not in a million years would you have that opinion if Origi wasn't a Liverpool player.

24.) 31 May 2018
31 May 2018 07:19:24
even though he does flop i think he's been pretty hard done by with regards to "diving" - and its an ever worsening cyclical problem.

25.) 31 May 2018
31 May 2018 09:10:44
Nothing to do with red tints Putney. As far as I'm concerned Origi will leave this summer. I just don't think Zaha will ever be good enough. Origi has a chance if he gets enough game time which he won't get with us.

Currently, neither player is Liverpool standard. Zaha is miles off the level we need though. I think Ed001's assessment was spot on.

26.) 31 May 2018
31 May 2018 10:14:11
Origi is better than Zaha any day of the week. My opinion. Most of you have forgotten the variety of skills he showed in scoring that hat trick against Southampton. He may not have lived up to his potential since then, I will give many of you that, but everything is a function of right time and right place. How many of you foresaw Salah's performance this year? And no my glasses are not red-tinted, they're actually trifocals. And not interested in any backsides, mine or anybody else's. Let's just see what happens when he's had a full summer back at LFC.

27.) 31 May 2018
31 May 2018 12:47:36
itâ€™s kinda hard to compare the 2 of them, zaha is pace and trickery.
Origi is pace and power.

With the right brain and attitude those attributes would make unbelievable players in their own way.