16 Jun 2018 02:04:19
The Spain game has helped clarify our collective feelings about our keeper.

De gea made a howler against Portugal and reminded us that all keepers are imperfect. The difference is man utd fans won't be calling for him to be ditched, on fact they may be pleased, hoping it puts off Madrid from signing him. People aren't fed up with Karius coz of one game, that was just the straw that broke the camels back. The lad had found some form and made a few decent saves but for every top save is a poor decision.

If it were just one game people would forgive Karius but he continues to make bad choices. I think he will have an okay career, but I don't see it glittering with gold. But I do see liverpool with some silverware in coming seasons.

1.) 16 Jun 2018
16 Jun 2018 05:39:18
Every goalkeeper can make a mistake, everyone knows that, what separates the great goalkeepers from the average ones is the frequency of those mistakes. De Gea has played over 300 games for United and you could probably count his mistakes on two hands, Karius has played almost 50 games for Liverpool and has probably made a similar number of mistakes.

I was all in favour of Karius getting a chance and at first he quite impressed me but around the Roma home game I thought he started to look shaky, culminating in the disaster against Madrid. For me he has had his chance and he didn’t take it, a new goalkeeper is a must, at least to challenge for the No. 1 jersey. I don’t care if he costs £10 million or £40 million but I don’t think we can rely on Karius next season.

2.) 16 Jun 2018
16 Jun 2018 05:47:21
The difference is, De Gea can literally keep Man Utd in games at times. He has been the difference for then between wins and draws or losses. I agree with Kramer. Karius got his chance and has unfortunately failed to take it. If he remains our No.1 into the new season then so be it. I will be fully behind him and hope he has an excellent season.

3.) 16 Jun 2018
16 Jun 2018 06:29:50
IF Karius is to continue at Liverpool and I for one would not condemn the man, then the old adage what doesn't kill you makes you stronger will need to apply, as regardless of what liverpool fans think, they will hopefully support him, but the away fans are going to go to town on him

If he can get through that then fair play. To the fella. However, is that too much of a risk for the club? Every mistake will be magnified by people on here, the media etc etc. Whereas a clean opportunity may give him the breathing space he needs

He's a good sort I think and deserves a chance to redeem, but if that is the to be case and the club also think that way, then at the very least the supporters need to acknowledge and factor that in.

4.) 16 Jun 2018
16 Jun 2018 06:35:30
How old are you Kramer? Ddg made a lot of mistakes in the beginning of his career. He had the same problem with the untied fans they wanted him gone he was letting a lot of long range efforts past him. Am sure fergie even dropped him at the time altho a cannit quite remember who there number 2 was at the time, he didn't turn out much better and ddg regained his place and he is where he is now.

5.) 16 Jun 2018
16 Jun 2018 06:56:39
Hendos brother1,think he was dropped for anders lindergaard (bad spelling)

6.) 16 Jun 2018
16 Jun 2018 06:59:29
It's not a like-for-like comparison with De Gea though, his main issue was a lack of physique. He was getting knocked about all over the place when he first came to the Premier League, which in turn was affecting his confidence.
Man Utd and the lad himself got it sorted and he was a different man after that.

If Karius stays in the First XI at Liverpool, he's probably got until about Xmas to show that he can hack it.
If there are major problems before then, the replacement could well step in.

7.) 16 Jun 2018
16 Jun 2018 07:55:29
Prince hendo, you’ve said you’d be happy with Navas in goal and he’s worse than Karius by a country mile.

8.) 16 Jun 2018
16 Jun 2018 08:00:55
Just out of curiosity how is this related to Karius. De Gea let's the ball spill and straight away let's everybody slate OUR goalkeeper. What's going on I thought our motto is YNWA it should be you'll never be in our team again. The lad made a few mistakes he human after all let's get off his case and back him for the season if he's our No.1 keeper. Hoping he have a great day for the charity match ed 2 wishing ye all the best of luck.

{Ed025's Note - he is only human after all.."dont put the blame on me".. :)

9.) 16 Jun 2018
16 Jun 2018 08:35:52
The juicer you are wrong lad! it was something to do with his eyesight from long range efforts he had to have minor surgery.

10.) 16 Jun 2018
16 Jun 2018 08:41:00
Deisered why are you talking about fella? ' A don't think everybody is blaming karius for ddg mistakes what alof of people are saying is that reguardless of high profile even the beat make mistakes. In fact most people are sticking up for karius thru this.

11.) 16 Jun 2018
16 Jun 2018 08:58:12
De Gea main problem was that he spent a season and a half constantly getting beaten from outside the box with fairly tame shots. United worked with him quite a bit and he did lots of extra training to sort it out but he was not the keeper he is now until 1.5 seasons into his United career.

12.) 16 Jun 2018
16 Jun 2018 08:59:17
Hendo you obviously haven't read all the comments from last night where Karius has been run through the mill again. That's what I'm on about and I haven't a clue what your on about blaming Karius for De Gea spilling the ball he's not even at the world cup.

13.) 16 Jun 2018
16 Jun 2018 09:04:33
Spot on Hendo's Bro. Kramer, stop rewriting history cos mind you, we don't all have short memories. If you wanna compare both DDG and Karius which is illogical in itself, then compare them over their first 50 games as that is only fair. Based on "true history", DDG was actually worse than Karius. Don't believe me? Go watch a youtube mash-up of his errors when he first arrived. His errors make Karius look like Gordon Banks.

Also, DDG was so bad that Fergie was at a loss for what to do at one point. I did not say that, the greatest LFC fan Rio Ferdinand said so. He said on one of the CL nights this season that Fergie was so lost that he came to he and the senior players to ask them literally, who he should pick as goalie btw DDG and the might Tomasz Krusczak. Yeah, that happened.

The real issue here IMO, is that many of us are saying that any GK can make a mistake in a high profile game and DDG is not immunned to that. Suddenly, Karius' detractors come out with none-arguments like "So you think Karius is better? " or some other nonsense that has NOTHING to do with the debate. DDG is better than Karius. In other news, water is wet. All GK's make mistakes regardless of their talent and standing. In other news, water is STIlL wet.

14.) 16 Jun 2018
16 Jun 2018 11:34:47
Deisered if you go back and read them agen bonny lad you will see that I was one of the ones that started this debate lad! So you would think that I would of read the posts. what are you on about blaming Karius for ddg mistakes? It was me that said even the best of keepers make mistakes kidda, I back karius 100% sonna.
If your going to makes things up and say a mustn't of seen the comments when in fact I was one of the ops then please read them yourself and who wrote what, cheers fella.
Brover mate yeah a new somebody would no the name of fergies number 2 cheers for that mate, it's true what u say at the time he was a big money signing and fergie didn't know what to do at the time.
And what your saying is bang on we are saying any keeper can make mistakes even the world class experienced ones, and certainly the young boy karius deserves atleast next season to prove himself as our number1.

15.) 16 Jun 2018
16 Jun 2018 13:23:30
I don't think Karius will get 50 games to compare, which will be a relief in all honesty. The fact Klopp is looking for a new keeper tells me that he has a fair idea Karius is not going to be anywhere near as good as De Gea, 50 or 100 games in. So whether its Navas, Butland, Allison or some other keeper, Klopp wants to replace Karius and rightly so and he is the only "Expert" i will happily listen to.