11 Aug 2018 21:27:57
I hope Nathaniel Phillips is ready for the premiership cos we going to actually need him now we are relying on vvd matip klavan Gomez too stay fit and perform very well apart from vvd all of them have knocks, major setback with lovren and this is why we needed another centre back more than we thought, hope this doesn't bite us in the ass.


1.) 11 Aug 2018
11 Aug 2018 22:47:10
Sooooo, all my banging on seems reasonable now.

Stupid to not streghen there and as I said how frustrating will it be if it costs us this season.

There wasn't a single cb out there who was better or equal to Lovren who could of allowed us to ship out one of klavan or Matip?

This season is going to be the finest of margins. The absolute finest. I believe it's a final day season. A point.

This is how's it all worked out. Any crack in your armour will show.

Klopp, that 3, keita, hendo, vvd, Alison are magnificent as is everyone at the club, but 1 better decision was needed. Hopefully we get to January in good shape and if still needed can streghen there then!

{Ed002's Note - Let’s hope the club does really badly this season so you are happy.}


2.) 11 Aug 2018
11 Aug 2018 23:07:45
Kloppsboss

Although i backed your point up at the time im kinda disappointed in your post now.

I told you so's serve no purpose at all.

The season hasn't even started yet dude and your spouting negativity.

Lovern being out gives someone else a chance to shine in what's going to be a very dangerous unit this year.

At least give klopp a chance before a ball has even been kicked.

Lets hope lovern isn't out too long and phillips if picked tomorrow can step up to the plate.

If lovern is out for a while and gomez isn't fit we may even see fabinho play a few there till things settle back into flow.

Onwards and upwards.

{Ed0333's Note - also I’m not sure how kloppsboss knows that this season is gonna go down to the final day and be decided by a point. If someone could borrow kloppboss’ crystal ball I need to know if my wife will ever lose her voice or leave the toilet seat up for me in the future.


3.) 11 Aug 2018
11 Aug 2018 23:11:50
No it was just a glaring void that needed to be fixed, especially with a league that's probably going to be at it's most competitive. If it was top 4 we wanted then I believe we already have it. Absolutely.

But the title is such fine margins. Going against a city side who, well name me there cracks, were are they very weak. They have 160/ 70 million in cbs, 120 million in full backs, 50 mil in gks and 370 million in attacking players with 30 million in fernandinho. That's not even half there squad. They have numerous players in every position.

NO. Liverpool don't need to go and spend that sort of money. I'm just highlighting the sheer strength of them. I really like Phillips but right now shouldn't be the time to blood him, next season it could be worth it like it was with Trent but we scrapped 4th last year. We cannot have those games which he will have where he makes mistakes, which is fine as he's a young player, and still go on and win the title. For me anyway.

It's unfsre on him aswel. Put it this way. We ideally need 12 points out of these first 5 games. Probably 13. We simply cannot lose any ground this early.

I'm only slightly frustrated ed because everything is there, absolutely everything apart from a partner for vvd.


4.) 11 Aug 2018
11 Aug 2018 23:23:50
The point remains that you can't have 100 CBs to cover for eventuation. It also remains the Kloppsboss will just moan about anything until he thinks inks h a is proved correct, even whn he hasn't. We have 5 senior CBs and some alent coming through the academy. Let the squad sort it.


5.) 11 Aug 2018
11 Aug 2018 23:24:04
The fact we have a keeper behind the CB’s who will instill confidence and a midfield in front that will help shield them should make the situation you are worried about a minor problem. We have the ability to squeeze teams in now. Before when they broke our press we had no keeper to sweep the long ball up, now we do. He will be the difference. We haven’t even taken to the pitch yet for our first match, let’s see how the lads do and see how the line up plays with our new signings.


6.) 11 Aug 2018
11 Aug 2018 23:25:13
No need to overreact and throw your toys out of the pram. We have 5 senior centre backs plus Phillips. That's 6 options for 2 positions. Yes we're unlucky with injuries but all clubs go through this at some point.

Evidently Klopp and his team did not deem signing a defender a priority, choosing to strengthen the weaker parts of our squad instead.

Look at United's pursuit of a centreback. Alderweireld, Maguire, Mina, Boateng. None of them were signed. With the World Cup and a shortened transfer window, there wasn't a lot of time to make loads of signings, plus having to gel them into the squad and get everyone back up to speed and full fitness.

It seems like there are not a lot of top quality centrebacks out there for sale. The ones that are available are way overpriced and just not worth the money.

If we had signed Vida instead of Fabinho or Shaquiri or Alisson, fans like you will still find some fault and pick out something to moan about. How about we just look forward to the season ahead and enjoy the game against West Ham? It's a season with lots to be excited about.

YNWA.


7.) 11 Aug 2018
11 Aug 2018 23:46:59
We have vvd Lovren Matip Klavan - city have Kompany Otamendi stones and Laporte. it terms of numbers we have the same - and Gomez too.
If we got Vida say, he would surely be in the same boat as Lovren?

{Ed0333's Note - Vida is a soldier and in my opinion a better player than Lovren. A seriously underrated footballer who I’d love to see play for Liverpool.


8.) 12 Aug 2018
12 Aug 2018 00:10:00
Why do people keep saying buy players to cover for injuries.

Thag is not and never what has been said. It's rediculous now.

Buy a new cb to sell one of the hospital patients we have.

Buy de ligt sell Matip. absolutely simple isn't it. READ dudes and dudets.

We then have vvd, Lovren, de ligt, klavan.

And stop calling Gomez a cb. Or counting him as such. Has he even played 10 games there? Has he been a single season fully fit? As far as I'm aware he was a rb last year 😂

So we have vvd, Lovren, klavan and Matip and that's good enough for a title challenge is it.


9.) 12 Aug 2018
12 Aug 2018 00:12:20
Like I said the other day some people just love to complain. I suspect if we had signed another central defender Kloppsboss would be complaining that we weren’t giving Gomez and Phillips a chance.

To try to make an argument that we will need X amount of points because City or United will get X amount of points is pointless, how many seasons in recent years have gone as predicted? Did anyone expect City to get 100 points? Did anyone expect Conte to turn 10th place Chelsea into champions? Did anyone expect Leicester to win the league?

Stop worrying about what everyone else is doing and just enjoy the ride.


10.) 12 Aug 2018
12 Aug 2018 00:20:15
Before you all start, remember one thing, mystic meg, I mean kloppsboss is always right ;) .

You should go be the manager mate you quite clearly know more than everybody else including Klopp. Hats off to you, all the knowledge you possess and you are coming on this site! I honestly couldn't be more grateful to have somebody with the knowledge you have sharing your expert opinions. Keep them coming Mr Meg.


11.) 12 Aug 2018
12 Aug 2018 00:36:05
Lighten up dude. The season starts for us tomorrow and we have the best squad that you or I (judging by the age of your tone) can remember. Worrying about back up defenders when we have one of Europes most potent attacks is like an Ice cream salesman worrying about whether his hundred and thousands are missing the hundreds. Enjoy what's to come Harry (you certainly talk like him if it isn't), don't focus on the negative so much.


12.) 12 Aug 2018
12 Aug 2018 02:18:08
If it is Nat Phillips, he’s playing alongside one of the best central defenders in the premier league. Remember when a certain Rob Jones made his debut against Man United and he had Ryan Giggs in his pocket? Nat could have as good a game. Let’s get behind the lad.


13.) 12 Aug 2018
12 Aug 2018 06:14:11
Trent made his PL debut against United and pocketed Martial. Although Nat Phillips on Arnautovic makes me slightly nervous, if he plays i will back him and im sure he'll prove all doubters wrong. i fully believe our CB depth is good enough and its just bad luck that 4 CB's are out (or a doubt) for our opening game. that doesn't happen too often.


14.) 12 Aug 2018
12 Aug 2018 06:55:56
It’s ok saying we don’t need 100 CB’s but what we do need is quality.

Plus the fact Gamez ( who I rate highly ) Klavan and Matip are all extremely injury prone.

It’s an area we should have strengthened in my opinion because for me, Matip and Klavan aren’t good enough. This area of the team, along with the keeper situation has been our achillies heel for years now. If VVD gets injured we have no commanding presence at the back. Lovren has improved but without a VVD type next to him, he loses confidence.

I really hope Phillips can kick.


15.) 12 Aug 2018
12 Aug 2018 07:34:01
I meant kick on.


16.) 12 Aug 2018
12 Aug 2018 08:20:11
You can't just go out and buy everyone. We have spent £180m what more do you want? Last year our midfield was average and needed an upgrade which we have got. We needed a top keeper and cover for the front 3, both sorted.

Nobody wanted to buy Origi, Clyne, Matip, Gini etc so where is the £40m for the centre back coming from? let's raise ticket prices and get a bigger loan so we can have a 7th centre back. Be positive.


17.) 12 Aug 2018
12 Aug 2018 08:38:38
I just think some make it sound easier the it is. But also don't take into account that these are our guys. We ain't just going to discard players at a whim. The squad has been built steadily over the last 2-3 seasons and I just rekon klopp and co have earned some collateral to trust the squad they have. I get the point, bit prefer to be excited to see one of our own step up and take his chance. He'd never get a shot otherwise.


18.) 12 Aug 2018
12 Aug 2018 10:08:07
Why do we need an extra centre back when we aren't going to be defending?


19.) 12 Aug 2018
12 Aug 2018 10:50:43
Ed 033 right about Vida being a soldier and soldiers are what we needed not the walking wounded, the season hasn't even started and we have 4 defenders who are doubtful or definitely not 100 percent, the lovren thing is crazy an really irresponsible on his behalf not letting us know of his condition, I stand by what I say we could of done with an extra attacker and defender, I ain't trying too be a neg head but we got champions league as well.


20.) 12 Aug 2018
12 Aug 2018 11:01:15
I know how good Nat Phillips could be. I love him and have wanted him to have a shot for a while but in the fa cup or something.

I just personally feel that going into a campaign where you want to win the title, you can't be blooding academy players.

West ham are no mugs. They've got good players and a good manager. Imagine we lose the first two games whilst Lovren gets fit and city, Chelsea United all win there's?

That's all I'm saying we need to be perfect this year and this was a headache we didn't need.

I'll support Nat like everyone else and hope the kids does well, but I just think it's an unfare situation to start him in. We should of been more prepared.

Matip missed majority of last year, Gomez was injured and klavan was injured. We know there not the best at staying injury free so why trust them for another season.

As for defenders. Johnny Evans the title winner went for 3.5 million. He's better than klavan and Matip. That would of been a brilliant squad move.

{Ed025's Note - sometimes the club just cant win KB, they bring an young lad in and its a mistake, then they buy someone and fans ask why the young lads dont get a chance..


21.) 12 Aug 2018
12 Aug 2018 11:21:05
Fair enough ed.

Really glad he is getting a shot just think it should of come when we decided, not because we have to sort of thing. For him aswel.

Does no-one remember he hounding out campaign started against Trent after the United game. Say he plays this first 3 and messes up these pages will be littered with get him out, not good enough garbage and if it impacts our title campaign, well look at karius, he might just never recover.

{Ed025's Note - you cant please everybody mate..


22.) 13 Aug 2018
13 Aug 2018 02:26:30
KB, i don't think klopp went into the season intending to blood an academy play. But it is an option should the team be faced with an injury crisis. Gomez did well today.