24 May 2019 10:26:26
Ive been thinking about the final. I haven't been reading much about player fitness but i wpuldnt be too unhappy if Kane plays. He won't be 100% match sharp, he won't be 100% match fit. He will want to play and i think it may play into our hands.

Thoughts?

1.) 24 May 2019
24 May 2019 11:01:58
Agreed.

2.) 24 May 2019
24 May 2019 11:17:37
I think so too as they clearly play better without him. Perhaps that might even drop one of Son or Moura (who troubled us last time at Anfield) on the bench. On the other hand, if he (Harry) comes off the bench, he could be deadly as well but I trust our midfield and defense to sort out these challenges.
It's going to be a tough one to be honest especially as we have not been playing for days now (we know our level after lengthy breaks like this) but I'm hoping this will be different and we'll bag a slim win but if we put in the performance we had against Barcelona at Anfield, then we will surely lift the trophy. That has to be the best performance I've seen from us recently.

3.) 24 May 2019
24 May 2019 11:18:59
I don’t rate him. The amount of games I’ve seen him
In and if he isn’t getting the ball to feet within ten yards of goal he’s a bystander for 80 minutes.

4.) 24 May 2019
24 May 2019 12:03:02
Kane is a quality striker u can never underestimate him.

{Ed025's Note - absolutely jay..

5.) 24 May 2019
24 May 2019 12:27:04
3 golden boots in a row? Or was it 2 and he was second behind salah? Still. A player who scores that many goals must be rated highly, surely.

But an unfit Kane is a different thing altogether.

After the Barcelona win and the madrid loss last year, i don't see us dropping the ball on this one. We ARE the better team. We are 24 points above them in the league. Even if bobby is out i have faith in origi and shaqiri.

We have the better: keeper, defence, midfield and forward line. We should bag number six. Spurs are no walkover but if we play to our best we WILL win.

6.) 24 May 2019
24 May 2019 12:50:33
I think as usual our supporters being disrespectful about other teams players (they don't learn) . A fully fit Harry Kane walks into our first 11 and its only Liverpool fans who would say different.

It comes from the same people who said City's defence and keeper are crap.

7.) 24 May 2019
24 May 2019 13:07:31
Correct Robbie if we play our best we will win. The last 2 games at Anfield their midfield overpowered us in the second half and out played us as well.

8.) 24 May 2019
24 May 2019 13:35:39
Tbh, if I had to write a list of strikers to play in our current team, with the style we play, Kane wouldn’t be in the top 10. Maybe not even the top 20. Not a bad number 10, but not suited to us. I would definately have Son on the list though - much better suited to our play.

I also think Spurs play better when Harry is injured.

9.) 24 May 2019
24 May 2019 13:36:53
Did i read that right?
A fully fit Kane walks into our team
please pray tell for who?
Comments like these are easy to make but often are incorrect
Surely not for Mane or Salah so then your saying for Bobby?

10.) 24 May 2019
24 May 2019 13:38:43
Thing is mark, citys defence and keeper ARE crap, tell me one of them you'd have in our team? When they get attacked they get punished, do they not? Granted not all of the time but it has happened, the problem is teams not having the balls to attack them, they sit back and are scared to death of their attack which will see them lose anyway. Bloody go at them, their defence is no good and ederson is worsw.

11.) 24 May 2019
24 May 2019 13:40:12
Spurs are more of a team without him, but he does score goals. They are a threat either way. Tbh, rather he starts than come on with 30 to play needing a goal.

12.) 24 May 2019
24 May 2019 14:06:03
I think it’s pretty even - he’s an outstanding player and can score from most places on the pitch, but on the other hand Spurs are equally dangerous without him as they’re more unpredictable and HS Son is a fantastic player with Moura also finding form it seems.

I don’t mind either way, let’s hope we play our best and we should have a decent chance either way.

13.) 24 May 2019
24 May 2019 14:20:27
But Mark we completely outplayed them in both first halves, let’s not just focus on what they did well. Plus we absolutely dominated them at Wembley this season and could’ve won that game 5-0 but for some wayward finishing.
We have nothing to be afraid of here. Respectful, yes but we shouldn’t fear them. They can be a good side who can give anyone a game on their day but we are a better team and have every chance of beating them. They lost 13 games in the league to our 1! They should be more worried about us don’t you think?

14.) 24 May 2019
24 May 2019 14:30:26
Harry Kane is a great goalscorer but i think his all-round game is a little overrated. He shoots when there's the slightest glimpse of goal, he shoots when there's a better option available, he shoots when a teammate is better placed, he shoots a lot and therefore scores plenty of goals. there's no way he would get in our team ahead of our front three and he doesn't have the ability to play in any other position.
Im not being disrespectful or derogatory but take away his shooting boots and what are you left with. Im more worried about Son than Kane.

15.) 24 May 2019
24 May 2019 14:51:56
Of course for Bobby. We would play a different system but Kane getting on the end of Trent and Robbo's crosses would get 35+ goals. Mane and Salah would still get plenty as well. I think the 3 get 65 goals instead of the current 55.

Bobby is a good player but had a below par season and 12 league goals if not enough I am afraid. Bobby has been a passenger for most of the season. I know some people say that he is vital etc but the fact is some of our best goals and results happen when he doesn't play. I am not for a second saying sell him but I am saying Kane is better and with him in our first 11 we would be better.

16.) 24 May 2019
24 May 2019 14:55:05
Bang on johncrow. Kane is a fantastic goal scorer, a really good player but he wouldn't work as well as bobby does in our system. He wouldn't walk into our front three.

17.) 24 May 2019
24 May 2019 15:16:14
Salah I can't have any of your points on City. Laporte for a start. Ederson was just as good as Allison this season. Probably slightly better especially at distribution.

Beckers Peck I agree just giving another side of the argument and don't want the same thing happening again in the second half. Spurs were well undercooked at the beginning of the season.

Robbie I agree with your original post. But if we had Kane we would of course change the system. If 80% agree with you I bet 90% of other supporters with no bias agree with me. When Kane gets sold in a couple of seasons it will be for £200m.

18.) 24 May 2019
24 May 2019 17:19:37
Completely agree Salah.

19.) 24 May 2019
24 May 2019 18:20:01
Although Kane is a threat my biggest concern is what liverpool team is going to turn up. This season we have consistently struggled for form after an international break with a noticeable drop in performance, particularly by the front 3. I just hope that for such a big occasion we overcome that hurdle.

20.) 24 May 2019
24 May 2019 18:20:23
Difference is mark, we were getting attacked all season, teams actually tried against us and look how Alisson handled it, yeah he went and won the golden glove.

Ederson might as well of had a tent up in goal most of the season, you say he's as good? I say he's not in the same league. If they got attacked as much as we did he'd of leaked in the goals, he's just no good. Don't get me wrong I'd have him over Mignolet or Karius lol but he's nowhere near Alissons level.

As for Laporte, I've had this discussion many times, personally I don't see the hype about him, I don't rate him one bit but each to their own.

So from what I can tell from your post, you'd have Laporte in our team? who else? if their defence and keeper are that good, who else would you bring in from them lot? just curious mate.

21.) 24 May 2019
24 May 2019 20:26:37
Sorry, Mark but Salah is right here, IMO. City have spent over 300m on their back line and GK YET they can't defend against a team of chairs when they decide to put 3/ 4 passes together on the counter. You say Ederson is at the same level as Allison. I fully disagree.

Ederson and the City defence as a whole, are lucky cos teams don't have the balls to attack them in the PL and when they do, they start committing professional fouls early to kill the counters cos THEY know how useless they are at the back. Each time Ederson gets a shot on target, City are more likely to concede cos well, they are barely attacked. Allison can be a bystander for 80 mins and still pull off the save of the century to keep the 3 points.

Also, why do you think City can't hack it in the CL? One of the reasons is cos the teams they face don't show them as much respect and aren't scared of them the same way the reset of the PL is of them. This explains why in the CL this season, they lost to Lyon and nearly got beaten by Hoffenhiem, a team that LFC thumped with ease.

As for Laporte, I agree with you that he is a very good CB and would make our first 11 no doubt BUT he is NO VVD and even tho he can defend, he struggles due to the system Pep plays where defence is not really his thing.

22.) 24 May 2019
24 May 2019 21:38:01
Salah's absolutely right in my opinion. I don't get the hype for Ederson at all. All of the points I would make Salah has already made.

{Ed025's Note - im afraid thats just jealousy guys, ederson did not make team of the year for nothing, hes an excellent keeper and his footballing skills are light years above alisson, listen i know they beat you to the title but rubbishing their players wont make the powers that be give the title to liverpool you know, all i hear is..fernandinho gets away with fouls, their defence is crap (actually conceded 1 more goal that the reds), and now ederson is a terrible keeper...you do realize how pathetic it all sounds?..

23.) 24 May 2019
24 May 2019 22:41:47
Premier league football suits Kane.

Not the same player outside of the premier league.

24.) 25 May 2019
25 May 2019 01:15:06
Ed I know you are just trying to wind us up, but I honestly believe that Alisson is better than Ederson. It has nothing to do with jealousy or anything else. It is an honest opinion. By the way Alisson is the Brazil #1 ahead of Ederson.

{Ed001's Note - Alisson is a much better keeper. Ederson making team of the year is irrelevant, he can't make the saves that Alisson can. I would have made team of the year playing for City, he barely had to do a thing.}

25.) 25 May 2019
25 May 2019 08:40:02
Agreed stone/ Ed1 that was my point, what did Ederson have to do this season? barely a thing and that's not opinion it IS fact. When he did have to do his job half of the time he bloody failed. Alisson is 10 x the keeper he is.

The way I look at it is, as previously said, if City were attacked like Liverpool were last season would Ederson of coped? no chance. Teams came at us all season long and Alisson smashed it in his first season, he's the best keeper not only in the league but in the world right now, Ederson doesn't come close.

If I was a city fan the first position I'd want changing is the GK second I'd want the defence sorting out because it's bloody garbage.

{Ed025's Note - they cant be that garbage salah, they conceded 1 more goal than liverpool and won the league...and thats with an absolutely crap keeper between the sticks apparently!...so please explain..

26.) 25 May 2019
25 May 2019 09:02:11
An easy explanation Ed mate, they barely got attacked. When they did which wasn't very often, they crumbled. Teams sat back far too much against them like they did the season before. If they were attacked more Ederson would've leaked miles more in, he didn't have to do bugger all the majority of the season mate.

Their midfield and attackers are too good, they scare teams half to death so teams sit back and try and just not concede instead of going at them and actually trying to get a result.

{Ed025's Note - i think thats a bit of a cop out mate, they are a lot better defensively than you and many others give them credit for, it just comes across as bitter and tasting of sour grapes the way reds are portraying city, they are a very good team and play wonderful football (as do liverpool) and they deserve a lot more credit and respect than you and your fellow cohorts are giving them...imo..

27.) 25 May 2019
25 May 2019 12:54:17
I completely agree that it's disrespectful to Kane to imply we have a better chance if he plays, unless you apply context and balance to that statement. I think our defence is better equipped to deal with Kane, than it is to deal with Moura or Son. Matip is vulnerable against pace. Kane doesn't pose much of a threat in that respect.

Still, you have to be careful what you wish for. Kane is fully capable of scoring a hat trick without ever getting in behind our defence, and he also gives them a boost if it went to a penalty shoot out as he's experienced that feeling at a World Cup level of pressure!

I can't agree that Kane walks into Liverpool's team though because again there is no context to that statement. I simply don't think he's as good as Mane, Firmino or Salah in any of their respective roles. Mane and Salah are clearly better wide forwards, and Firmino is a much better all around footballer to play as a false 9. You could easily argue that Kane is good enough to make Klopp change his tactics though. He tried it to fit in Shaqiri (albeit unsuccessfully) so no doubt he'd be prepared to try it with the far superior Kane. So maybe he would change our team for the better, but he doesn't walk into this system.

We can't control who Spurs will pick. They have a great squad and all their players carry their own individual threats. We just have to be at our best, and beat whatever is in front of us.

28.) 25 May 2019
25 May 2019 09:21:27
I will never deny that they're a great team Ed mate, they won the league fair and square and get my respect for it, it's not sour grapes from me mate it's just my opinion. They do indeed play great football but their defence and GK haven't been tested enough to be called a good defence mate because almost every single time we've all seen them get attacked they've leaked in goals. Just my opinion of course mate but I just don't understand the hype about their defence and keeper.

29.) 27 May 2019
27 May 2019 03:06:46
City don't have the best defence in history but it's still an excellent one and we shouldn't be so red tinted in bashing it. Lazy excuse to just claim teams don't attack them. We played them for 180 minutes this season and only scored once, kompany and laporte had a great season and it's only their full backs have maybe not been the strongest. I take allison over ederson all day but that doesn't mean edersons crap. He's a top class keeper and if you can't see that then you clearly don't watch him play regularly.