22 Jun 2019 21:35:11
get in Firmino lad!


1.) 22 Jun 2019
22 Jun 2019 22:18:48
Firmino was crap in his last 2 games for Brazil, now he scores a stupid no look goal agains't a pub team and you think it's great? Firmino is becoming only known for these stupid no look goals instead of contributing to the game or the season.

He hasn't played well for well over a year it is about time he got back to basics. Messi doesn't piss around with no look goals he just scores 40 normal goals.


2.) 22 Jun 2019
22 Jun 2019 22:32:50
Markp08, I'll have whatever your smoking please. Hasn't played well in over a year? I think you are on the wrong page. Go home your drunk.


3.) 22 Jun 2019
22 Jun 2019 22:33:02
I know where your coming from Mark but they play different rolls mate. And Liverpool have changed there style of play this season.


4.) 22 Jun 2019
22 Jun 2019 22:51:05
Yea your right Long. I was just going OTT but he really does need to get back to basics. Constantly on social media, new hair cut etc football seems down his priority list. Mane is the example he should be following. Mane is combining both hard work and end product as Firmino did 2017/ 2018.

But his no look goals are a joke and just serve no purpose, far better players than Firmino have never thought the need for no look goals. It will cost a certain goal at some point.


5.) 22 Jun 2019
22 Jun 2019 22:52:39
It's about time, you, learnt the basics of football. But thanks for the laugh. 🤣.


6.) 22 Jun 2019
22 Jun 2019 23:00:13
Basics of football doesn't include childish no look goals. Firmino has been way of the pace for over a year and that is obvious. He is so lucky that he plays with 2 world class players in Salah and Mane.


7.) 22 Jun 2019
22 Jun 2019 23:28:06
Messi hasn't exactly performed for the national team though has he? Firmino has had an up and down year but to say he hasn't played well in over a year is downright ridiculous.


8.) 23 Jun 2019
22 Jun 2019 23:35:20
Markp08, after the barcelona game you said klopp should be sacked. You denied last time I called you out on it but you absolutely did.

You just called a team at last year's world cup and who were unlucky not to qualify to second round a pub team.

Firmino is one of the hardest working players on the planet who was coming off an injury in the final. He was superb this season.

If your mission is to be the biggest douche on the site you are doing a stand up job.

If these are your real views then fair enough. Glad your not involved in any decision making at the club but fair enough.


9.) 23 Jun 2019
22 Jun 2019 23:37:59
That's a good joke Mark, made me chuckle.


10.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 00:11:05
Constantly on social media and changing haircuts that means football isn't his main priority? Even if it isn't, this dude have a life to live. What's wrong with that?

Guys, you don't have to defend Firmino. No matter what, each will see him differently. Some look at his goals and assists, some look at his runs, and some don't look at all.

And what is so wrong with that no-look goals and passes? We are entertained by them. You clearly not. So have a no-look then whenever he's about to shoot or pass. You'll feel better.


11.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 00:14:26
Klopp says he's the first name on the team sheet. but you think he's rubbish so let's listen to you spout your nonsense. You clearly have no clue about Liverpool so stop commenting.


12.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 02:49:43
Correct me if I’m wrong, didn’t the no look goal thing start after his eye injury?


13.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 03:16:14
Out of the front three I think Bobby would be the hardest to replace. Awful post, imo.


14.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 04:40:34
markp you do realize that A LOT of what bobby does is replicating Ronaldinho Right? The no look goals, the celebrations, the cheeky passes. Ok he hasn’t got the pace or skills of Ronaldinho but he replicates what he can.

it’s entertaining and football is just that, entertainment (ok football is life but shh)

He is still a work horse and how can you say he’s hasn’t played well in over a year?
The season just gone by was his 2nd best in a Liverpool shirt beaten only the by the previous season were he played 3 more matches in the Prem and had 3 more goals + 1 more assist.
Bare in mind, that we played attack attack attack to outscore opponents before vvd arrived. This season we haven't had to play all out attack because we can defend now yet his goal tally still nearly matches his best for us.


15.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 04:53:03
Pressed reply too early, forgot to add, comparing what he does with messi is insane xD
I mean come on really?
Besides all the obvious things like Messi not being hooman, let’s just look at their basic role.
Messi drops deep to get the ball, and work his way to scoring a goal with his insane acceleration.
Bobby drops deep to create space for salah/ mane/ whoever bombs up from midfield, or because he is trying to win possession for us.


16.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 06:07:47
Firmino's form over the past 12 months has been much better than markp08's comments on this thread tbh.

{Ed025's Note - hes a talented player IB but he was not at his best last season, he set the bar very high the season before mate and i think mark is going over the top a bit but he was not at his best thats for sure..


17.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 06:30:20
Bobby"s character shows through in his celebrations. We love a player with some cheek, remember Fowler? , Give me Bobby over a selfish Harry Kane any day.


18.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 06:35:06
Bobby needs to work harder? 😂.

{Ed025's Note - he needs to get involved more RTID..


19.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 07:07:41
markp08, taking all the fun out of football since 2019!


20.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 07:34:12
Firmino was not crap last year. Was he as good as the season before, no.

A large part of that was because his game has changed slightly in line with the way klopp tweaked liverpools style. Firmino played a lot more deeper for larger parts of games last season than the one before.

Im pretty sure if you asked mane and salah if he was crap they would laugh in your face.

In short your being very harsh on the lad mark.

{Ed025's Note - i tend to agree with a lot of that wolverine, but most liverpool fans are so biased that its a refreshing change to hear that some of your players are actually human after all mate..


21.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 07:37:52
Bobby Firms is still one of the first names on the team sheet for KLopp. Most of the work he does for the team is off the ball hence why he is not rated as highly as his peers or ignorant fans who claim to know everything about the game. I would take Klopp's judgement over people like markp08 and the ignorant ruffians that worship twitter any time.
Bobby's role has changed for the team over the past 12 months and I would not trade him for any forward in the world bar Messi and Ronaldo.

{Ed025's Note - thats typical over-hype by a reds supporter IB, hes a good player even though he was not at his best last season but to put him in the bracket of one of the best forwards in the world is laughable mate, he does not score enough goals for a start..


22.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 08:02:30
Ed025, where have I said he should be in the same bracket as Messi and Ronaldo? Bobby is perfect for the way Klopp likes to play and that is all that should matter. People like markp08 probably have wet dreams about Pepe and Werner and how perfect they would be for LFC. IF that were the case, they would already be LFC players by now.
Firmino may not have been as good this season compared to the previous one, but Klopp would not trade him for any other forward that could be a realistic signing for LFC. He is vital to how LFC play and the first line of defense.

{Ed025's Note - you said you would not trade him for any other forward in the world bar messi and ronaldo IB which would put him as the worlds 3rd best forward, hes a good player and does fit into klopps system well but come on mate get a grip..


23.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 08:47:27
You have to watch Liverpool every week to appreciate how good Bobby is. 7/ 10 performance minimum, selfless play, relentless pressing like no other striker, moments of pure genius, goals, assists, key passes, tracking back to full back areas if needed, heading away opposition corners, making 90th minute goal line clearances in open play, linking the play in midfield, running the channels, holding up the ball, and most importantly bringing the best out of others.

He is world class and that is why CIES has him in the top 10 most valuable players in world football, and why He's the first name on Klopp's team sheet.

{Ed025's Note - its a subjective topic "world class" PB, in my view there are none of them currently playing in the EPL, if bobby is world class then so are about 50 others in the premier league as well mate, i know bobby wears a cape and wears his undies outside his kecks but that does not make him superman...just a good player..


24.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 09:16:51
If people are allowed to say Hazard and his 55 goals in 3 seasons is 3rd best after Messi and Ronaldo, then I'd say there is a fair argument that Firmino with his 55 goals in 3 seasons is 3rd best too. It's all about perception. If Firmino doesn't score enough then neither does Hazard who takes far more penalties than Bobby, but I haven't ever heard that levelled at Hazard (regularly referred to as the best after Messi and Ronaldo) because it is more conventional for a wide forward to be in the team for other reasons than it is for a central forward.

I think you're trying to simplify it too much Ed025. Firmino is very unorthodox and what IB is saying is that there is nobody other than Messi or Ronaldo that are so good at what they do, that IB would want to change our style of play to accommodate them. That doesn't mean Bobby is the 3rd best in the world, it just means that in that next tier of world class players behind the two super humans, Bobby is the best for Klopp's Liverpool. Personally I'd say that individually Salah, Aguero, Lewandowski, Mbappe and Griezmann are all better than Firmino but in terms of what Firmino does in our team, like IB, I wouldn't swap him for those guys either. If you want it on record that I think Firmino is the 8th best forward in the world though, sure, I'll put my name to that! He's just ahead of Divock Origi 😉.

{Ed025's Note - bobby does a good job for liverpool PB and fits in very well to the klopp system, hes not unorthadox though mate every team has one some better than others...bobby is somewhere in the middle..


25.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 09:54:24
Bobby is the proven and can do the job unlike the names being thrown around

Look at pipco he looked brilliant for liverpool Barcelona payed ridiculous money for him now they want to sell him because he isn't actually that good

The way we set up and play is perfect for bobby to do his job he may not be the best in the world but he is perfect and made for the way we play so I think the lads are sort of right in we would struggle to replace him his role is unique and is his own I'm not sure an out and out striker could fit into that position

Anyways I'm off to buy some new tinted glasses for the upcoming season ed25 want any lemons picking up 😇.


26.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 11:58:41
mark - you sound like my mum and everyone her age. she always goes on about the players haircuts and how that ruins their game lol.

firmino works for us. I think it's a bit rose-tinted to say there is no other player who could replace him. but that shouldn't detract from him being key to how we play. Ed1 says that internally he is valued highly. that'll do for me.


27.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 09:56:48
Don't often disagree ed025 but VVD is definitely world class. Mane, Allison are both approaching world class.

Bernardo Silva is getting to that level as well IMO.

{Ed025's Note - that depends on your version of world class mark, dont get me wrong VVD has been excellent for liverpool but to be deemed world class he has to do it over an extended period of time mate..


28.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 10:42:27
I don't know who's enjoyed this thread most, Mark or Ed025.

{Ed025's Note - i think we all enjoy a decent debate polecat, especially while we are all turkeying waiting for a decent game of footy mate..


29.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 12:41:29
if Liverpool put him up for sale there would be a cue nearly as long as the one at the chemist behind Mark by the time they had sorted all his medication out. Bobby played loads of last season in the number 10 role what took him a while to get use to. And I thought a lot of players where not at the highest levels last season after the world cup.

he only scored 3 less goals in the league from the season before 11 less in the champions league but in the group stages we was all over the place and his late goal at home to PSG was massive. But salah was crap as well because he never scored as many goals as the season before. Thank god Origi scored 7 goals last season to save us.


30.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 12:42:38
Of course Firmino is a good player but he had a below par season, and a long way off world class but all opinions are good. I go a bit OTT because of the constant Firmino love on here. Last season he was an 8.5 this season a 5 maximum. I think players like Robbo, Mane, Trent etc should get a lot more praise on these boards.

Davey you will have to show me where I ever said Klopp should be sacked, as I said last time Klopp is the most important.


31.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 12:20:49
Ed025, you don't think VVD is world class?

{Ed025's Note - he has the potential dan, hes been tremendous so far mate but until he does it over a number of seasons then no..


32.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 14:27:28
Maybe Mark is right and Bobby needs to stop these childish no look goals. And tell Bale and Ibrahimovic to stop those infantile acrobatic kick things and use the sides of their boots. And don't get me started on backheels, stepovers and Cruyff turns. What do they think this is? Entertainment?


33.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 13:37:10
VVD has potential to be world class? Mate, he is already world class and is the closest there is to a world class CB.
If VVD is not world class, then which CB is apart from Godin and Chielleni (who are both on their last legs btw)? Please don't say Pique and Ramos who are not a patch on VVD.

{Ed025's Note - it depends how you define world class IB, 2 seasons does not cut it for me mate but if he keeps it up for 6 or 7 then i may agree with you...and no i dont think pique or ramos get that tag either mate..


34.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 16:00:57
I suppose it depends on your definition of world class. Is it too 5 in their position? A place in the World XI? It does seem a phrase that gets thrown around a lot these days but for me anyway you frame is it VVD is world class, in my opinion.

{Ed025's Note - but liverpool supporters think every player they have is world class dan, its a symptom of all of you mate...the rest of us call it delusions of grandeur..


35.) 23 Jun 2019
23 Jun 2019 21:01:30
If Everton were to sign a player of Bobby's class there would be sticky socks in all the Everton supporters bedrooms (AKA sheds), for months, and Ed025 the reason we think all our players are world class is because they are and you know it, which must really hurt your bitter little heart.

{Ed025's Note - i am far from bitter polecat but if you think all your players are world class then you are deluded my friend, you do have some very good players though but you need to ask one of your teachers what world class means, instead of playing fifa all day during the school holidays try researching pele or maradona and you will find out what world class actually means mate..