17 Jul 2019 19:41:39
Hi Ed1 - do you think Coutinho could adapt his game so fitted in to our new style of play?

{Ed001's Note - no, if he could he would be starring for Barca because they were looking for someone to play the way we would want him to play.}


1.) 17 Jul 2019
17 Jul 2019 20:28:23
140mil is really looking like the best bit of business we've done, next to selling the mono kneed torres for 50mil, when 50mil was HUGE money.

{Ed002's Note - 140M what?}


2.) 17 Jul 2019
17 Jul 2019 20:50:27
He won't be back, but just like he wasnt worth the money Barcelona payed he hasn't suddenly become as bad a player as some are making out. its a shame he lacks the workrate needed for Klopps midfield because as we saw when he was here he certainly has the quality. Some of the football he and the rest of the fab four played in the 1st half of 17/18 was superb and great to watch.


3.) 17 Jul 2019
17 Jul 2019 21:01:34
Eds2 I know you dong like talking money but can you please put straight on the amount we got for PC. Because the amount of times I’ve read on here people still thinking we got 140 mill. It’s crazy. Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - An easy one at last. The full potential fee is:
€120,000,000 Paid in five instalments (€24M) between January 2018 and June 2020. Jan, June, Jan, June, June
€5,000,000 Paid when player has appeared in 25 first class games for the club between January 2018 and May 2020.
€5,000,000 Paid when player has appeared in 50 first class games for the club between January 2018 and May 2020.
€5,000,000 Paid when player has appeared in 75 first class games for the club between January 2018 and May 2020.
€5,000,000 Paid when player has appeared in 100 first class games for the club between January 2018 and May 2020.
€5,000,000 Paid when Barcelona qualify for the Group Stages of the 2018/19 Champions League.
€5,000,000 Paid when Barcelona win the 2018/19 Champions League.
€5,000,000 Paid when Barcelona qualify for the Group Stages of the 2019/20 Champions League.
€5,000,000 Paid when Barcelona win the 2019/20 Champions League.

Paid so far is €72M of the fee. €10M for games played#, and €5M for 2018/19 Champions League qualification and the same for 2019/20. So actually paid is €92M.

In terms of what has to be paid on from this by Liverpool:
FIFA Solidarity payment of 2.5% of the fees to be paid by Liverpool to Inter between January 2018 and June 2020 (first payment (calculated from the €120M and not the instalments) was actually made in March 2018 and Liverpool, were fined for late payment with a reprimand. The second was also late and a warning was issued. Two further payments will be made with the amounts increased to reflect any additional payments due for appearances etc.).
FIFA Solidarity payment of 2.5% of the fees to be paid by Liverpool to Vasco de Gama between January 2018 and June 2020 (first payment (calculated from the €120M and not the instalments) was late and FIFA intervened to force Liverpool to pay the money in to ESCROW with The FA. Two further payments will be made with the amounts increased to reflect any additional payments due for appearances etc.).}


4.) 17 Jul 2019
17 Jul 2019 21:24:19
He does have quality. But he's more likely to shoot from 25 yards than play a ball to the fb. Most of our goals come from breaking on the counter, which i think someone with phils passing range is great for. Or from our interplay around the box. More so the latter as we have become a team that normally domintates teams and its all about breaking the opposition down. And its this second way that coutinio is not suited to.

If he was 2/ 3 years younger and 100mil cheaper then i wouldn't mind klopp taking a chance and hoping he can tweak his game. But at the money and on the wages, and where couts is in his career, its not going to happen.

Much rather have alisson and vvd. Hands down. They are the perfect players for our style. Literally the best players we could have gotten. Couts isnt.


5.) 17 Jul 2019
17 Jul 2019 23:05:02
He lacks the quality to play in barca's system hence, they want rid. How on earth would we want Cou back when he can't even adapt to the way Barcelona plays when Barcelona want to play the way we play as Ed01 said?


6.) 18 Jul 2019
17 Jul 2019 21:24:07
Thanks for the breakdown Ed2, I don't bring up about the money side of things because to be honest I haven't got a bloody clue about it but info like that is appreciated.


7.) 18 Jul 2019
17 Jul 2019 21:25:01
Wow Ed02 you certainly know your stuff that was interesting to read and some people on here still give you stick unbelievable
Up the pool.


8.) 18 Jul 2019
17 Jul 2019 21:39:29
Wow. In about 50 lines of text ed002 corrected weeks of rubbish by the media regarding money on Coutinho. Always appreciate your knowledge and input as it’s just said how it is.


9.) 18 Jul 2019
17 Jul 2019 21:57:06
Thank you for that answer Ed. Surely there's no excuse for recurrent late payments? Or is there?


10.) 18 Jul 2019
17 Jul 2019 22:33:34
Ed002, that can't be right, me mate said they paid the full 140 mil up front. How else could we have bought VVD and Becker? :)


11.) 18 Jul 2019
18 Jul 2019 00:32:36
You are an enigma Ed002. Love these insights, thank you.


12.) 18 Jul 2019
18 Jul 2019 00:38:44
Wow ed usually you won't explain financial aspect😅.


13.) 18 Jul 2019
18 Jul 2019 00:42:40
Just want to say thank you to Ed. 002 for that reply. He knows I'm not one of his sycophants but I do appreciate the info he gives and that was a complete answer to the Coutinho transfer saga.


14.) 18 Jul 2019
17 Jul 2019 23:26:46
Nice one Ed002.
We’re due €24m payment for June 2019 also?

{Ed002's Note - June is gone.}


15.) 18 Jul 2019
18 Jul 2019 00:34:05
I believe you ed02 but why is the figure of 142mil always mentioned? Even the echo use that figure.

{Ed002's Note - Ask the Echo.}


16.) 18 Jul 2019
18 Jul 2019 04:56:42
Ed002 very much enjoyed that info on the structure of payment for coutinho. I think it's fascinating the stipulations and things like that included that 99% of us fans never consider or care about.

I also wonder do certain players act more selfish than others when things like personal targets and goals need to be met in their contracts for money bonuses, and we are ignorant to this info of course.

{Ed002's Note - I am sure they do, but bonuses are exempt from the salary details that are lodged by the club so I have no visibility.}


17.) 18 Jul 2019
18 Jul 2019 09:14:25
Ed002 -
Jan 18 €24m
Jun 18 €24m
Jan 19 €24m
Jun 19 €24m
Total €92m paid to date of the fee, without add ons, no?

{Ed002's Note - No - that would make it 6 payments overall and not 5.}


18.) 18 Jul 2019
18 Jul 2019 09:25:13
Yeah I thought so too, we're better off not knowing those kind of details anyway. Would just be another reason for fans to scrutinise players.


19.) 18 Jul 2019
18 Jul 2019 13:06:51
So we’ve been paid 92m so far with two instalments of 24m still to come and any of the extra payments should the requirements be met?

Cheers Ed for the insight but I’m still confused 😂.

{Ed002's Note - What is confusing?


20.) 18 Jul 2019
18 Jul 2019 13:06:51
So we’ve been paid 92m so far with two instalments of 24m still to come and any of the extra payments should the requirements be met?

Cheers Ed for the insight but I’m still confused 😂.

{Ed002's Note - Why is that confusing?}