Liverpool Banter Archive August 10 2014

10 Aug 2014 21:48:43
Coutinho effortlessly dropping a shoulder and running past players like their not even there lights up my day.

I don't think I've ever seen a player do it so consistently without effort. He's a player llike.

I'm going in with an early shout on 'League Player of the Year' for him
Definitely 'Young Player of the Year'.

Sterling will be close behind

Thought?

He was absolutely sublime today. One of the best performances I've seen from him if he can keep that up all season he's definitely in there with a shout.

10 Aug 2014 22:27:30
Was a friendly so always try think 'glorified training session' but whole pre-season thought coutinho has looked amazing. His creativity and control looked great and just seemed to go past players with ease.
Liked lovren as well, was amazed by his passing with both feet. Want to see him and sakho line up!

Coutinho`s ability to weight the perfect pass and thread a defence splitting thru-ball is so somptuous to the point that you can taste it. If he can addd strength and goals to his game, he`ll be UNSTOPPABLE. Only an person like Scolari would have dumped this kid for the likes of Oscar, Hulk, Fred, and Hernanes.

11 Aug 2014 00:27:28
Don't forget Jo redohio. I'd be offended if Jo made the team over me even if I was a goalie. that dude is bad

Coutinho will grow as a response to not being picked, the players that were there are tarnished by that 7-1?shallacking. £8m looks like the biggest bargain ever!

11 Aug 2014 07:57:24
The thing with Coutinho is he needs to be doing this week in week out

Coutinho is the epitome of creativity, I love watching him play he is awesome. He has me on the edge of my seat more than most players. He's had a good pre-season and I reckon he's going to be sharp as kitchen knives this season.

I too love it when he whizzes around three people, or when he slices a defence in half with a through ball. I hope he has a monster season with us and tells the Spanish lot where to go, as no doubt they would be lending a glancing eye to high quality performances. He's only 22 years old and pulls the string behind the strikers like a master clock maker at times, if he finds some consistency then I think we'll have tapped a massive resource for the club.

For so long now people have worried and wonder how do you replace a player like Steven Gerrard? Well, I think Rodgers has done it, I know many people disagree with me here, but Gerrard made so many goals for Torres and others, and I think Coutinho can do that for Sturridge and co. He really has got that through ball down to a fine art. He may never score the 20+ goals Gerrard has done for us a season and more, but Coutinho I feel could get that many assists (in a match maybe, if the front men took all their chances :) and if he pokes a few more goals in, then we'll all recognize his individual importance to our team.

In my house he's known as the ''Brazilian Zidane'' which is about as high a praise as can be paid, even if a little (a lot) premature. But he's one of my to watch players, i've been singing the little fellows praises since he came to us, he's unstoppable on his day and I hope he has plenty of those days for us.

Countinho was being touted for player of the year after last year's pre-season too. Hopefully he'll be more consistent this season.

11 Aug 2014 10:24:53
krishnaynwa

I 100% agree with you, yesterday coutinho was brilliant every thing he tried basically came off, the only problem with him is he does it once in every 3 matches.

If he plays like that most games he will be a world beater, with age and maturity I hope he will add the consistancy part to his game.

10 Aug 2014 21:26:30
Kolo toure has better offer on table from transzapor, up to player mainly if he wants to sit in stand for lpool or go and play and sunbathe in turkey.

Really hope he goes, not slagging him off but it's time to move on now pal. Errors last yr mean he won't play unless we are desperate.

Didn't he sign for Liverpool so he wouldn't have to move his family out of the north west?

Wouldn`t mind if he stayed BUT it`s his choice.

10 Aug 2014 21:08:37
To anyone who knows Brendan Rodgers! Help me ask him what he wants to do with all the defenders(Kelly, Toure, Ilori, Agger, Flanno, Smith, Robinson, Enrique, Coates, . ) we have after we get Moreno!

Prolly wants to open a super market beside anfield for their sale!

Smith Swindon loan, Llori will be loaned again, offer on table for toure from transzapor, Kelly? Flanno even still? Supposed to get new deal? Enrique?

Kelly will probably stay.
Toure will likely leave.
Ilori will likely be loaned out.
Agger looks like he will leave.
Flanno will stay.
Smith is on loan at Swindon.
Robinson will leave either on loan or permanently.
Enrique will stay for now.
Coates will leave.
Johnson may leave as well.

Red Rum

Smiths on loan kolo will go, llori on loan and agger may go

Toure, coates and either agger or skrtel will go, leaving kelly, lovren, ilori, agger/skrtel and sakho.

10 Aug 2014 20:16:26
Tiago Illori to move on loan to Bordeaux.

10 Aug 2014 19:37:47
Greetings all .

I want to know your thoughts on the striker position . Can you name ONE striker that we should buy and explain why?

BONY

For me I like the look of Bony costs half of what some of the 'big' names mentioned .Will hopefully not demand massive wages .

I also like his mobility & strength, I also like the fact he is a striker rather than a 'forward' .By this I mean he is selfishly focused on scoring at times .I do think he would also not create too big a stink if he was on the bench at times .



All thoughts welcome

I like Bony. Great player. worry a little that he won't suit our lightening quick attacking style. He won't do what sturridge does and break in behind at pace. Of course when sturridge is fit that's fine but when sturridge is injured we'll really miss that at the top. Sterling will do it but it works better when its the striker. Bony's more mobile than lambert but I wouldn't call it a particular strength of his. He could be oustanding for us as he's shot, sterngth and vision are excellent. The pace would be my issue with the style we play. Think he makes up for it enough in other areas though. Certainly wouldn't be dissapointed to get him.

My choice would be Reus but I take it you meant realistic options.

In that case, I would like the club to look to try and get Carlos Vela. He has improved massively since his early prem days and I think he would suit our style perfectly. I always thought he was lazy in his pressing but against Barcelona he was outstanding, robbing defenders on numerous occasions and worked his socks off. He's a real live wire and can play equally as well on the wing as up front. I think Liverpools quick attacks would suit our play. Just a thought.

Think Bony is our man though and hopefully he can fire. Think he will.

Yes I would go for Bony too, his aim is to score goals, he is like a previous striker, he doesn't get injured, he gives 100 per cent, tough as nails, would be great to have in our squad, there are more games this season, we wil be stretched even more . plus 19 mill for a top player is good .

Will Bony be able to keep up with the speed and quickness of our forwards when we attack? That is the question.

For me, it would be Kevin Volland. He's young (22) and versatile in which position he can play (striker, wide, or even midfield). Had 11 goals, 4 assists last season and seems likely to have a very good future ahead of him. That said, I have no idea if he's obtainable or not, but I recall reading somewhere the number £12.5M being bandied about, although that seems a bit low to me.

11 Aug 2014 08:04:46
Me! I'm dirt cheap and have been known to play through the pain of broken bones, so at least I won't be an Aquilani!

10 Aug 2014 19:36:42
Good news, Markovic won't be out for 6 or 3 months as some reports claimed. He will avaliable either against southampton or Man city.

Brenden Rodgers said the following.
"He'll hopefully be around then [against Southampton], but if not then he certainly will for the next game, " the boss told reporters following the 4-0 victory over Borussia Dortmund.

"He had a slight problem with his tendon, but he's up to speed.

Agger however is still undergoing treatment on his knee problem.

10 Aug 2014 18:30:03
Anyone else think instead of a superstar striker we should get someone who is willing to bust a gut to make it as a footballer yes he has to have the talent but look at sturridge a few seasons back was struggling to make the bench now he's one of the most lethal strikers . dare I say the world? Hats of to brendan for looking for these raw talents who just have something to prove

Don't have to look far - Borini

10 Aug 2014 20:14:03
Wilfred Bony, Lacazzate. They would all jump a chance to play for us.

10 Aug 2014 20:17:50
You mean someone like borini?

I'd like us to take a chance on Connor wickham, the lad definitely has the ability, just needs to knuckle down and I think Brendan could bring out the best in him.only got a year left on his contract so would be available at a decent price or maybe some sort of deal with borini

Muriel

10 Aug 2014 21:41:45
To be fair I don't really see borini as an out and out striker I do agree with the Whickham one as crazy as it sounds the lad used to bang them in at Ipswich for fun and never got a real chance at Sunderland till the end of last season if he starts the beginning of the season as he did at the end of last season I'd definitely have a cheeky bid for him in January as for bony I really didn't know he was that young until someone pointed out he only 24 or 25 defiantly worth a go and will only get better after his first season

Wickham, have u lot lost it, championship at best. He is like a rubbish Andy Carroll

10 Aug 2014 22:31:10
Muriel, the Colombian guy? "Bust a gut"? Haha, yea at the buffet table maybe!

Haych, are we talking about the same guy here?!

10 Aug 2014 22:46:10
I'd like to see Rossi of fiorentina or Yilmaz of galatasaray.

I have a vision of sturridge getting injured and jack dunn taking to the starting line up some point in the season, fingers crossed he gets a chance and does well! can't wait for origi to get a game for use eventually!

Wickham is a rancid shout.

We will see

10 Aug 2014 17:33:21
How anyone can be downbeat about the new season is beyond me.

Here are 10 reasons why you should all be excited about the new season.

1. We are back in the Champions League and our seeding means we will be thrown back in the deep end, and to be honest I wouldn't want it any other way. I can't wait to see Suarez's face when his old strike partner sticks 3 past Ter Stegen down the Kop end.

2. We have strengthened. We really have. Forget Suarez exists for a moment and you will realise our squad is ridiculously strong. Add Lallana and Markovic (and maybe Moreno) to the the side that beat Dortmund today and you have 45 (or even 65) million pounds worth of talent to add to a side that looked nothing short of excellent. The players we have brought in clearly conform to Rodgers' philosophy and that could not have been said necessarily the past 3 or 4 windows.

3. Brendan Rodgers is the best man manager in the league and will get the best out of his players. I have no doubt that the likes of Sturridge and Sterling will step up to the plate post-Suarez. Everyone looks like they love playing for B-Rod.

4. We have Raheem Sterling. Raheem Sterling is in the top 5 attacking players in the league. Raheem Sterling is 19.

5. We look just about the quickest side in world football. Markovic, Sterling, Sturridge, Coutinho, Can, Henderson, Manquillo (and Moreno?) are all lightening fast. For me, teams can adjust to players like Suarez and can sniff him out of games. Stick two or three men on Suarez when he has the ball and no matter how exceptional he is, he will struggle. When you have 4 or 5 lightening quick players in the final third, it becomes almost impossible to defend and that is what we will exploit.

6. Jordan Henderson.

7. Emre Can looks like a brick wall that can also run really really fast. He also appears to enjoy running into people.

8. Did I mention Jordan Henderson plays for us?

9. We can live safe in the knowledge that if we need a goal to keep our title hopes alive and we get a corner in the last minute of the game, Iago Aspas will be sitting on a beach in Seville.

10. Last season we were boss. Chances are we'll be boss again.

Please don't call him B-Rod

Loving the idea of Hendo getting the recognition he truly deserves!

10 Aug 2014 18:33:40
Loved Hendo's celebration after his goal, every game's a cup final for that boy.

Did I mention Jordan Henderson plays for us. I love that mate, nice one.Come on you reds.

10 Aug 2014 19:29:09
11. Anfield is a fortress again :)

11. Even you may have forgot this, but we have a very exciting young English player in our side. Lall. Jordan Henderson.

Now that`s what I call positivity. Love the "B-Rod" part. With your permission, I would REALLY like to keep that.

10 Aug 2014 19:54:05
Hendo is truly emerging as a real leader .I love the way he never shirks responsibility and is brave enough now to show his ability instead of taking the easy option.

10 Aug 2014 20:17:42
Really love your optimism and agree with a lot you say just have to disagree about emre can being fast from what I have seen of him and from being at the match 2day I think he is quite the opposite I believe he is a good player with a lot of potential he just isn't fast.

So funny. 'Can also seems to like running into people.' Brilliant. I'd like a post match report for every game of the season please

Can I say I fully agree with point no.6

11 Aug 2014 08:03:11
Loved the post man. Keep them coming :)

10 Aug 2014 16:51:43
Ed, do you know of any interest in Enzo Perez? He'd be the perfect player for us.

{Ed002's Note - He will move next week - but there is no interest from Liverpool.}

10 Aug 2014 16:13:09
hello eds,
and fellow reds.

what a game!. now we may have to agree with rodgers on buying a striker in January window when he finds one. Also I don't think we lack attacking options in front
because Markovic might be played as a winger/striker/second striker. Also our future looks really bright . very much excited for this coming season.
Still would be even more happy if they can sign a lb or a striker.

YNWA

Are you fir real? Another striker is a must.

Don't read too much into that game. At home, with our strongest 11, against a significantly weakened Dortmund side. Nice to see the flowing attack, and it did show the potential of Sterling/Sturridge/coutinho when all three are in form. They won't always click together nor will they always be healthy. I think another striker is a must (or we give Borini a go).

Another striker is NOT a must but it is a great need. If we don`t get one, then we chin up, tighten our boot straps and get after the job at hand.

If we want to challenge on all fronts its a must Remy would have been good for me but he is not coming so we will find another player

10 Aug 2014 15:55:53
Told you Johnson is going.

Where is he going?

10 Aug 2014 17:04:06
This post is so open for banter. I'll resist the temptation.

He`s going to left back, that`s where.

Johnson did ok yesterday at left back
I know a lot of us have not been his biggest supporter recently, myself included, but if he can show the form he did a few years ago. he has the ability but does he have the desire?

10 Aug 2014 15:53:32
Man.city might argueably have the best.squad.on.paper but you have to perform on the field. They are rusty today.and have been all.pre season. Even if they win today which looks unlikely they have serious egos in that dressing room.
I do hope.arsenal win because it will be.papering over the cracks. Their back line is their for the taking. The only player i.rate in their backline is Kocheiny, but he's abit of top class. Their holding midfielder is arteta who is no.holding midfielder and is past it IMO. They have quailty attacking midfielders and a top class.Sanchez but they have.no top striker. Arsenal are behind us in defense and attack. As I will repeat, let the sofa experts write us off. I am very excited for.the new season. A top striker and morenó we will have one hell of a teamand squad.

Debuchy and monreal are good. The problem with arsenal is the midfield is so attacking minded. they don't get back quick enough or read defensive lines and holes to fill. They often played artetaand ox at DM last year they looked terrible. When flamini isn't there, they really miss his presence.

Until they bring in another dm they will always struggle.

Wenger has a constant obession with attacking midfielders, they usually play with 5 and at least 4 of them are the same type of player every match.

10 Aug 2014 15:23:56
We should have signed Lovren years ago.

10 Aug 2014 16:42:03
Last year, When he was available.

10 Aug 2014 18:15:25
There was interest last year but the club opted for Sakho

10 Aug 2014 15:11:37
As I stated the other day and nobody agreed, i'm sure now they will, lovren and skrtel will be our first choice pairing with sakho as backup! Today just confirms that as they were both brilliant, as was new boy manquillo and even johnson played well! Couthino though today was superb, easily motm!

What game were u watching?

Ethan8
I agree with most but Skrtel was overshadowed by Lovren who looked awesome
He gave the ball away needlessly on a few occasions as he often does
Happy with him as a reserve CB but I would be very surprised if he is a regular in front of Sakho
He may start next week though considering Sakho didn't play yesterday

10 Aug 2014 15:02:23
Today we beat Dortmunds reserves 4 - 0 please don't take it out of context they were very poor & we played well. I can imagine Brendan being very unhappy with the lack of quality in their side

Why would BR be unhappy today?

You can only beat what is infront of you. also not too sure they had 11 reserve team players starting.

Because he would have wanted this game to be a challenge & the fact is only 4 players that started for them are part of their first 11. It wasn't the workout we would have wanted

Which reserves? Hummels, Wiendenfeller, Reus, Sahin, and Gundogan (who hasn`t played in a year) were the real absentees. Aubameyang, Ginter, Kehl, Schmelzer, Immobile, Pisczek, Sokratis, Mhkytarian, all played. That`s a pretty strong line-up.We beat a pretty decent BVB team so stop talking crap and trying to diminish a good victory. If this team had played Utd in America, they would have slaughtered the mancs. N BTW, Dortmund had played SEVEN friendlies b4 today so fitness was n defo not a problem. They got outplayed and otclassed and even Klopp will admit to that. Another stupid post.

10 Aug 2014 18:18:30
We didn't need to prove anything, Man city, AC Milan and Man united are top teams who we did very well against. This was to boost confidence going into the season which it definitely did.

Redohio, you say at the end of you post 'another stupid post' yet u make the presumption that
'If this team had played Utd in America, they would have slaughtered the mancs'

A proper example of a stupid post.

Tr1

Tr1, IMO it`s not a stupid post. I was simply making a point based on obseving both our performances. We played a mixed 11 against the mancs who IMO fielded their first 11 and dominated them for 60mins. Now we played our first 11 against BVB and dominated them again but w/ goals at the other end to boot. That is a simple conclusion based on the observation of the facts. If that is a stupid post then I will reserve my comments on your definition of a "stupid post".

10 Aug 2014 14:33:00
Great performance today all though Dortmund was poor. Pretty sure we'll be a handfull for most teams but we must get a left back and striker in to really push for the title. We should be trying to win every competition we're in especially after spending as much as we have.

Agree totally.we need lb and a striker bony and that spanish kid hope it happens

10 Aug 2014 14:09:56
V V Good performance today.

We looked sound defensively; powerful in Midfield and lightening upfront.

Coutinho gets my MoM; lovely flick for Sturridge's goal and some of his passes for Sterling were amazing.

Last time I will labour the point; we still need a pacey / skilful striker in the event Sturridge is injured.

I thought the new boys did well (not sure if Can picked up an injury - after his overhead kick as he looked a bit leggy towards the end of the 1st half).

V V good display though - can't wait until next week.

Great post! Couldn't agree more and totally agree we need just one more striker who's a mirror of Sturridge to keep that pace in the team if he's injured - even if we don't bring Moreno in I won't be bothered as long as we get another pacey striker up top - we have a load of full backs who can cover LB and loved lovren and man quills performance - lover a 1st game and you could hear him bossing the back line - hendo I just admire the guy as well as the obvious 3 of Sturridge, sterling and continho but Henderson is improving everywhere - think our 4th actually game me a hard on the way it was played haha

10 Aug 2014 14:52:20
We have Sterling if needed.

10 Aug 2014 13:40:02
Great first half soo far. Coutinho looks top class, maquillo looks very good and the teams playing very well. Lovren? Well he's a class act.

Got to agree with you; Coutinho is playing better than ever.

I thought Lovren was excellent as well; nice to get a goal as well.

10 Aug 2014 13:20:20
Dortmund brought on a player called Immobile. He's no David Speedie though

Hahah pun of the day, still laughing at that one mate. Quality

10 Aug 2014 12:14:29
My hope for the first 3 games of the season, especially the first 2 away games.

3 clean sheets!

I really believe we won't feel the loss of Suarez that much if we tighten up defensivley this year.
We have enough fire power to win games 1-0, 2-0 or 3-0.
But last season, we defended so badly that we needed extra goals to beat teams 4-3, 5-3, 6-3 and 3-2.

10 Aug 2014 12:36:04
I go with 2 wins and 1 draw.

10 Aug 2014 11:49:05
Gents
Which Liverpool player are yous looking.forward to the most this season? Only one ;)
Lovrrn will have a big impact but lallana edges it. Everyone knows how highly I rate the boy. Will be a great great player.for us IMO

Coutinho! I want to see if he can step up that extra level that will have people talking about him as being better than Silva and the like. Goal scoring would need to improve still.

Raheem Sterling
just needs a haircut

For me it will also be Lovren (only because I don't see Can getting a lot of starts until Gerrrards legs go), but Lovren can hopefully shore up a leaky defence and finally be the leader that defence needs

ps great debut goal from the guy are the great kop horde going to greate a song for him maybe with the owords loving that lovren feeling. lol

Sturridge - Can he now be the Premier League top scorer?

Irish rover
What position would coutinho play assuming lallana starts? Love the.player, still has huge potential

Lol Big Al. Its a good question. Maybe they might just have to battle for the same spot. Which you can't complain about. Its all good if they are both performing at their best.

On.form coutinho has to start

Brilliant bruffio. one to sing to the poor saints on gw1
you've lost that lovren feeling.
ooh that lovren feeling.
you've lost that lovren feeling.
now he's gone gone gone.
and you can't go on.
ohhh

10 Aug 2014 11:24:48
WTF if Rodgers player Skrtel Lovren over Lovren Sakho as our main CB this season then ZERO improvement has been made to our defence. LCB isn't the problem its RCB.

Does he not know that this is a friendly!?!?!?
Rodgers OUT!

It is a friendly mate. This is where errors are hopefully erased. By the way, full backs are the issue in our defense, in my opinion.

Sakho might still have a fitness problem. He struggled at the world cup remember and was regularly subbed at around the 60 minute mark.

10 Aug 2014 12:24:28
Skrtel won't be dropped, BR rates him pretty high

{Ed001's Note - does he? That will be why he keeps buying replacements for him then.....}

I think your spot on Midland the lad had some sort of hamstring/muscle problem at the world cup and Rodgers has used him sparingly this pre season

10 Aug 2014 12:19:48
Its only a friendly. He's just trying things out I think

Piledriver, while left backs are a huge area of concern especially with Johnson seemingly still first choice. Skrtels positioning (I've always felt) left much to be desired. When Carra was here he was better since he was a vocal organiser. But since then I feel like his CB partners are covering for his lack of positional awareness.

This is compounded by the fact our full backs push up so high leaving us exposed. Skrtel is a good 'blood and guts' defender good in the tackle, air, strong etc. but its his understanding that let's him down.

10 Aug 2014 13:02:46
Ed01. That might be true, But you expect Skretel to move out this summer

{Ed001's Note - if we could sell him he would be gone, the last two seasons he was trying to engineer a move, now we have replacements in he wants to stay! Typical.}

Skrtel has once again show why he can't play BR's style of football today. It's getting cringey now

Skittles will be a back up this season if he stays

Ed is right. Skrtl was a gonner last year. The only reason he stayed was because Toure picked up that groin injury in the league cup game right b4 the Utd game at Anfield last August. Had it not been for that, Skrtl would be prob at Napoli right now.

10 Aug 2014 10:56:24
I might take some stick for this post, but I think it has to be said.
I read thi rumour and banter evry day a few times a day becaus one, I like some of the recourse and two I don't want miss any transfer rumour, but some of you guys who reply a lot on here and whom post a lot on here will never be satisfied no matter what the club do as in buying players. For example:
We know from sources that the rumours here state that we have inquired for a lot of strikers (if you like to belieive the rumours which I like to do) but you have to realize that the club ain't going to bring in a a player on 300k tax free cash a week it would smash any wage structure in place at the club and cause more long term damage to the club than it would be worth, even although its been reported this marquee signing type of players will take a drop in wages, no body in their mind could see them falling to a reasonable limit. So forget the marquee signing as in my opinion no one out there is worth over the 30million mark.
Now as a long term Liverpool fan I don't care whom the club buy, they could bring back Roy Of The Rovers, re employ Robbie Fowler, throw my gran upfront (even in here bone state) or buy a total unkown and play him, I will support the player the club the manager the staff 100%, you could even say blindly.
We all know what we need we don't need to refer to footy manager like some whom write on here, but come on lads stops slating players, the manager or the club you make some readers think they have come on the united page, get behind lfc with a week to go we should be exited at the prospects that lay ahead in another exiting installment of Liverpool Football Club.

ps
of all the new signings I think Emre Can is a beast and will replace Gerrard in the future

10 Aug 2014 11:03:35
Good post that mate
I have been saying for weeks that all we need to do is resign fowler

I totally agree with you re the wages mate. The demands of some of these guys - e.g. Lavazzi (only 9 league goals last season) and Cavany (16 goals) are riduculus. They are two spoiled kids, spoiled by the limitless funds of PSG and I cannot see anyone else in Eurpoe pay them even 200K a week. I would pay them 300k a year(!) and the rest based on perfomance - 10 goals or more 1M, 20 goals - another 1M, 30 or more goals abother 1 or 2M, and a major trophy another 1 or 2M. That's it. Anyway this is why they probably will not play for me. So I am with you (and Rogers) on that.

But wanting to save is not always an excuse. Take Bony for example - he is there to be bought all summer long - he wnats to come, I think his wage demands are reasonale (didn't hear otherwise) and had a release clause in his contract of around 19m - fair enough for me for someone who scored 13 Pl goals last year and more than 30 in the Dutch leage a year before. Rogers (or the owners), according to reports want him for 12M. Now this can happen if Swansea are desprate to sell - but they may not be that desperate or another club can take him (and some like Spurs were interested) and in any case, even if they sell him to us for less it will be after season starts which is not ideal. Obviously you have to manage your money sensibly but at the end of the day football is not like the Apprentice when you are being fired for not buying the best bargain but for underperforming, having a trophless season and so on.

Re fans and criticism - I think part of being a fan is having expectations (specially after last year) and having your view about how do you think things should work, and this is OK as long as it is done sensibly and respectfully. We all understand it is easier to give advice than to manage but since as fans we cannot decide who we buy or who plays or what formation, if we cannot even say what we think about these decsions what is left for us to do?

10 Aug 2014 10:16:20
A small post of clarification if the powers that be allow it

Just to avoid confusion I am posting this
I have changed my username from "reet2107Liverpool" to "YNWAReet"

Inspired by YNWAdam by any chance ;)

10 Aug 2014 12:23:38
6 disagrees? The public has spoken - your name change request has been denied. You will remain "reet2107Liverpool".

You wish Ems:-D
besides I wasn't a devoted reader in the YNWA Adam days
Today I learned its really difficult to find a good user name

10 Aug 2014 13:12:02
Mostly it's difficult to find a good user.

10 Aug 2014 09:34:02
Ozone took some stick yesterday, I totally disagree that walton f.c. Will finish above us or have a better team, so why have I not abused him? Because as much as I disagree with that part of his post he is entitled to his opinion, deep down I don't think he actually believes what he posted there he's just frustrated at our transfer policy and how we implement it, and that point ozone is spot on.

So next time you reply to a post you people sitting in your full replica kit in a room plastered with Liverpool posters and memrobelia, take a step back, look around and think, maybe everything at the club isn't perfect and sometimes difficult scenarios should be challanged and questioned, it doesn't make you a bad fan, it actually makes a great one, because you care about your team.

{Ed002's Note - A losing battle probably Waro.}

Spot on.

10 Aug 2014 10:55:44
Fair. I just don't think saying things like "Borini is crap" is acceptable behaviour from any fan. Comments like this is where our differences are.

Good post Waro.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion and should not be criticized or insulted because of it.
I read Ozone's posts yesterday and while I did not agree I still read it.
That's what this site is about and why it works. Differences of opinion, debate are a good thing.

Spot on Waro mate, I threw the Everton bit in the mix to poke the hornets nest. Whilst I do think they have a good team, deep down I don't actually think they'll finish above us. Moreover, the point I was trying to get across was they needed a striker and have spent £27mill getting one. Our transfer committee seem to be scouring the globe looking for a deal as opposed to what we need. Before the transfer window opened, our primary requirement was a left back and striker. We've bought everything but that very thing. In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with the defence bar Johnson who disrupts the defensive unit. Put Flanno in at right back bring in Moreno for the attacking option and fluctuate centre halfs between Skrtle, Sakho, Agger and Illori. Did we really need both Markovic and Lallana?

{Ed001's Note - what you did was to troll instead of just making your point then? Why not just make the point instead of throwing in the Everton thing to overshadow it all? That is why you annoy so many, because you do that, not because you have a differing opinion. I happen to agree our transfer policy makes no sense, though I disagree on our defence being good enough and Skrtel in particular. I think Lovren was very needed. Other than that, left back and striker was all that we actually needed, so should have been the first things brought in. You worry about the curtains only when you have the walls and roof on after all!}

Ozone took some stick because people disagreed with his post and retorted, which reiterates what you are saying about us all having different opinions.
Abuse isn't appropriate towards other posters or towards Borini, Waro - it's just hard to keep calm and civilised when deliberately inflammatory comments are made and unfortunately I think your 'Borini is sh*te' post falls into that category. Let's care about our team indeed.

10 Aug 2014 11:48:58
I think your right Ed002, I've been guilty of it in the past but now try to accept other posters views however outlandish they are.

That's fair enough puzzled, but I can't sugar coat things and have to tell it like it is, and in my opinion he's crap, a lot of posters on here are scared to question player ability because they are all brainwashing each other that you are not a true fan if you don't blindly back a player and the club, when I'm at the match I back and try to encourage everyone on the pitch, but when I get back the pub we all discuss players and there ability's and have different views, surely posters on here do that with friends and family surely?

But try that on here and your attacked and accused of not being a true fan and told to support another team, now that doesn't bother me at all because I can give it back twice as good but some people seem to be scared of backing up there opinion because of this and start to explain there post and backtrack on what they've said to appease the I'm L.F.C.'s number 1 fan types who frequent these pages.

We all have views on the team and the club, but what a boring world it would be if we all agreed.

Ok Ed, I don't understand this phrase 'trolling', I just see it as banter expressed in a particular form. If we were all in a group going the match together, I'd be taken at face value for my opinion and not abused in the way some posters do on here. Amongst the lads I go the game with there's a cross section of personalities with differing views, it all makes for a good old diverse debate both pre and post
match. I'm not going today but I'll be phoning various lads who are at the game later. Amongst those lads, there's three who will see the game and how we are set out completely different. It's in the eye of the beholder.

{Ed001's Note - trolling is when you deliberately post things to incite abuse, which you have admitted you did with the Everton bit. If you had left that out, your post would have had a totally different effect and caused us a lot less hassle having to edit out the abuse.}

10 Aug 2014 12:28:47
ED01. I go with you on the transfer priorities and I had my say yesterday here.
A LB, GK And Striker ( In-case Suarez leaves ).
Unfortunately not happened till now.

I agree!

WARO, I fully agree with you, all your doing is giving an honest assessment and not following them BLINDLY, as I've said before WARO lfc could have a gorilla as manager and people would say he's a master tactition, that's what your fighting against lad, keep up the good work, be supportive but also be objectional when need be unfortunately some people don't like that. .

You`re wrong, Wembley. I give Ozone stick NOT because his views differ from mine. I do it because as Ed said, he`s a troll who post ridiculous posts to incite abuse and stick and then whines that he`s gettingslated. He doesn`t give his opinions. He trashes FSG and BR because they`re not doing what HE thinks is right for the club and ten brings in other teams like Everton, Spurs or Utd to make comparisons which anger me personally because at that point, you`re asking for a roasting and mark my words, you WILL get the business from me, for sure. That is not an opinion nor objectivity. That is abuse and morrally/intellectual dishonesty and as a fan of 30yrsthru the highs and lows, I will not allow a "fan" to trash the club and its owners and coach just because they`re not doing what HE wants. As for your post, I am not blinded by faith and bias because I`ve criticised BR on many occassions when he`s deserved it and have/will also support him when it is right. Like you said, a gorilla could be the gaffer and as long as he can do the job, I will support him and give him opportunities to make his mistakes provided he`s learning from them which is what BR hopefully is and will do in the future. #Wegoagain!

I hope you don't work on a building site Redohio, I suspect you may find it difficult to navigate your way around canteen banter!

10 Aug 2014 04:36:46
i keep seeing the eds reply with "rtfp" but I have no idea what it means :/ can anyone please tell me?

10 Aug 2014 07:53:39
Read the flipping posts!

10 Aug 2014 07:59:55
Read the posts mate and u will find out, failing that UTSF

I believe it means 'scan the copulating uprights'

10 Aug 2014 08:13:34
Round trip from Portugal.
Read the foreign press.
Round table for pets.
Read the freggin post.

React To foolish posts
Rip terry fenwicks pants

10 Aug 2014 10:52:47
Ruin the forest people

rice tulips fetish precisely

real tambourines fluctuate politely

Lol, I don't think it's RT 'flipping' Pages ;-)

10 Aug 2014 16:25:51
Its a Twitter thing. It means 'ReTweet Friends Photos' Glad I could help :)

RTFP also results in ROFL too when it's said.

10 Aug 2014 01:07:53
okay let's take a break from bashing at each other for a bit and focus on dortmund now. anyone else going to the game tomorrow? I for one can't wait for YNWA to be unanimously sung by both sets of fans (dortmund also inherited the song)

What other songs do people expect to ring around the kop tomorrow?
Lets show the players what to expect this season in our first game at anfield this summer with the premier league kicking off next week!