Liverpool Banter Archive August 10 2016

10 Aug 2016 20:53:54
Anyone watching the Villa v Luton game?

Mcgeehan has the most 1980's haircut ever!

Fantastic!

10 Aug 2016 20:59:10
And he scores too!

10 Aug 2016 22:50:04
Is Mcheean rated Eds?

Remember watching him the FA youth a few years back and looked quite good.

Much appreciated.

{Ed001's Note - at the level he plays at he is, he is not seen as being a Prem player for the future. I would expect him to step up at least one division in time though.}

10 Aug 2016 18:14:41
If marhez goes for 30 million I'll snap.

10 Aug 2016 19:04:30
Sure another attacking mid/ winger is exactly what we need. Why would he choose us atm anyway? No CL this year and a poor history of qualifying for it in recent years. We were never going to be in for him.

10 Aug 2016 19:18:40
A team is greater than the sum of its parts. Klopp is building a team and we will be a GREAT TEAM! 😎.

10 Aug 2016 19:35:22
Will you crackle and pop too. 😂.

10 Aug 2016 20:07:48
Haha just meant I'd a choose him over any of our attacking signings I was in awwww last season.

10 Aug 2016 20:40:04
What a ludicrous thing to say dezy! Half of Europe would sign him in a heartbeat and we are way down the pecking order! We were never in for Mahrez because we'd never get Mahrez. We know our place. Sure we'd all love him, klopp would probably love him too but knows he's never get him.

10 Aug 2016 21:29:05
Think money talks even tho I agree with you the likes of kante Ibrahim pogba


Left champions league teams for team with no CL.

10 Aug 2016 21:55:14
I get what your saying Dez but Kante probably knows this will be Leicester's only CL season, so he is willing to sacrifice CL football with Leicester this season for many more to come with Chelsea. Ibrahimovic and Pogba aren't stupid, they know man utd have under achieved and are expected to be back in the CL next season (hoping they're wrong mind) . But both are probably on great wages which is always a nice added bonus!

10 Aug 2016 22:26:31
They couldn't sell for 30 mil. Sure bleedin Bolasie is going for 30 mil these days!

Typical Arsenal I say. Making it look like they're trying to spend money - whilst secretly hoping to keep all the money in the bank!

10 Aug 2016 23:03:09
Difference Dezy is that United pay monstrous wages which we can't compete with and Chelsea have been consistently a team that challenges for the title and a mainstay in the CL. Liverpool however have been mid-table for the past couple of seasons. Hopefully klopp will change that but it's the cold hard truth.

10 Aug 2016 23:33:05
Yes but man u were only out for what 2/ 3 years and are paying astronomical fees and wages we can neither afford nor give.

10 Aug 2016 23:54:30
The club has wasted money over the years buying poor players and left the best one to others. No wonder we are in the transitional rebuilding from 25 years. Mahrez is just one example we would never get.

10 Aug 2016 15:12:57
In the event that we don't sign a left back, do you think will Moreno be first choice? Or would the out-of-position Milner be preferred to him?

10 Aug 2016 16:04:22
Klavas. How does noone see he will be number 2 there. Matop and lovren for the middle and klavas as lb. Played there most of his into career. Looks good aswel.

10 Aug 2016 16:04:53
Would prefer Moreno over Milner.
But would prefer we buy a left back than play either.

10 Aug 2016 17:02:30
Klavan would be too slow to play at left back in the premier league, yes he has played there occasionally before but he is primarily a centre back and it would not be a good decision as we're just using square pegs in round holes again and swapping one problem for another.

10 Aug 2016 17:12:57
His name is Klavan, and he certainly has not played most of his career at Lb. He is a CB and after being converted into one from being a midfielder, has played CB most of his career.

10 Aug 2016 17:17:16
When klavan was asked if he could play at left back by lfc tv his reply was along the lines of "who told you that? I'm a center back. I haven't played left back for 6 or 7 years" he will not play left back in my opinion. I think he'll start at center back on Sunday unless matip is fully fit. We need to sign a left back Moreno is below average but Milner at left back is far worse.

10 Aug 2016 18:05:55
International career yes he has.

You all want hector and he is about as fast as a tractor with burst tyres, good player but pace isn't the most defining factor.

Watch his Romania highlights and he looks good at lb.

Also your all wanting Milner, can, ed001, Ian ayre at lb instead of morwno.

Wouldn't you want at least ahead of all them a left footed defender, who can and has played there in the past.

10 Aug 2016 18:25:50
I'd prefer Clyne left and Milner right, Milner is a better crosser and the few games Clyne played left back last season, he was better. I know it's two players out of position, but with mane right, who goes inside and out, Milner should be clever enough not to overlap when mane has space, and can cross from deep well.

10 Aug 2016 19:11:01
I will tell what i want! A left back to play in a left back position, not a midfielder, not a centre back not even a right back. I want a left back and i think we will get one but if its Moreno then so be it.

10 Aug 2016 20:03:55
Lol genius he's estonian not Romanian. Clearly knows nothing thinking an estonian cba is a Romanian lb.

10 Aug 2016 20:25:14
Paulo, I'm sorry but if you can't spell his name, don't know what country he plays for, and think he's played lb for most of his career, I'm afraid you've been watching the wrong player.

Please search instead for Ragnar Klavan, the centre back from Estonia, or better yet, stop judging players on youtube.

10 Aug 2016 21:35:09
Good god. I thought you all had the iq to work out into was a lazy was of putting international, I never said all club and international career.

He played lb for Estonia for most of his international career, and his youtube clips from his estonja highlights with him at lb look good.

You're all judging hector, chilwell, amavi etc etc etc on youtube clips or without even watching them just on what people have said about said player.

You're all talking about Milner at lb, Stewart, can, clyne and so on. Yet out of all if we don't sign anyone Klavan is the absolute best suited to it, and since he has already played the position before at international level its not really shoehorning someone else.

How are we arguing about my punctuation or abit of wrong info.

Surely it is just do you not think out if whole squad that if we don't sign someone at lb, that klavan would be the best suited for that position.

Also klopp has stated he isn't going to be 4th choice, doubt matip, sakho or lovren will either.

I really feel if are actually lb whoever that is isn't playing then klavan will, the Estonian who played his club career at cb but has played a lot of games for Estonia at lb. 😉.

10 Aug 2016 22:06:16
"You're all judging hector, chilwell, amavi etc etc etc on youtube clips or without even watching them just on what people have said about said player"

I'm the one who mentioned not judging on youtube. I have never watched or judged a player based on youtube videos (That's not true actually I've watched Maradona), nor have I based my opinions on what other people say.

"You're all talking about Milner at lb, Stewart, can, clyne and so on. "
I'm against playing every single one of them players playing at lb. Why? Because they aren't lb's, the same as Klavan isn't a lb.

I fail to see how because someone plays there a couple of times a year for his country, even though international football is a joke, you seem to think that makes him the best option for lb.

Also, he will likely start at cb against Arsenal, due to Sakho being injured and Matip not being fit. If he performs why would we shoehorn him out of position?

You trying to justify your argument by generalising everyone into a "You all want" is quite pathetic too. Make your points, don't generalise everyone else.

11 Aug 2016 06:47:08
Am i the only one who sees the irony that some called You feels that 'you all want' is a generalisation?

11 Aug 2016 08:21:24
Hector wasn't originally a left back, he's a converted midfielder. Stewart was originally a right back.

You don't emerge from the womb with a predetermined position. Intelligent players can adapt, that's what Cryuff's 'total football' ethos was all about. He wanted 10 outfield players that could play well in any position - all able to tackle, dribble, pass, header and shoot and all tactically aware enough to defend or attack.
Really, for the wages these lads are on, they should be at least proficient in more than one position and be capable of adapting tactically. I'm sure with the right coaching and a bit of dedication they could do it easily.

10 Aug 2016 15:03:10
Ed, What is the situation on Markovic?

{Ed002's Note - There is no "situation" that I am aware of.}

10 Aug 2016 14:09:32
Hi ED' not sure if you can help me with this one but here goes. On one of your last post you where explaining how the business works between a club and a manufacturer such as Nike of Adidas. What percentage will the club get from shirts sales as a retailer?

{Ed002's Note - It varies based on the size of the retainler and the amount of shirts that they order. Large retainlers will cut a better deal with the distributor than a guy in a small family run store.}

10 Aug 2016 14:27:37
Thanks ED002.

10 Aug 2016 14:00:28
Afternoon eds, did my post to big Al come down for a reason? Can't seem to see it anywhere unless I've scrolled past it to quickly!

{Ed002's Note - Yes Waro.}

10 Aug 2016 14:21:56
OK ed002 thanks, I'm the the joey Barton of this site I think, hahaha.

{Ed002's Note - Would you have Joey Barton back as a coach one day? I think he will make a great coach if he takes that option when retiring.}

10 Aug 2016 14:42:52
To opinionated and controversial ed002, hahaha.

10 Aug 2016 15:17:41
Good idea, Ed - if the team loses a game they get a one-inch punch and a headbutt. He'll soon whip em into shape.

10 Aug 2016 15:35:12
Do you mean that he is a bit mouthy .

10 Aug 2016 17:00:59
Joey Barton coaching Waro?
I don't think he'd add anything to Waro. 😃.

10 Aug 2016 17:04:00
Is that a great coach in his own mind lol? To be fair he is opinionated and a good communicator. So who knows?

10 Aug 2016 17:36:33
I think ed002's comment was very tounge in cheek fellow posters, but Barton (much as I hate saying it) is a lot shrewder than people give him credit for, now there's an adjective I never thought I'd use about joey Barton 😱.

{Ed002's Note - Actually not - whilst he has made an idiot of himself on plenty of occasions he is a bright guy and would make a good coach. He also articulates well and there will be an opportunity in the media when he decides to retire.}

10 Aug 2016 18:29:03
He's one of those controversial characters that get people talking, not afraid to stick to his guns. He's a bit of a knob, but so is peirs Morgan, and that's why they get so much attention. They also have the knowledge to pack up their opinions so it's not just spewing random crap like Katie Hopkins.

{Ed001's Note - I disagree, he is a bellend, a nasty piece of turd who should be in jail with his brother. If he was not a professional footballer that is where he would be, rather than pretending to be intelligent by repeating verbatim crap he has read in books that he does not understand.}

10 Aug 2016 18:11:07
Really ed002? I agree with the idiot part, and sadly the being bright part also, which is a sort of contradiction but that sums the lad up really, could have done a lot more in the game if he hadn't been so pig headed and known when to keep his mouth shut.

{Ed002's Note - Yes, really.}

10 Aug 2016 21:33:16
I think people can grow, develop and change; I'd like to include Joey Barton in that. I've never met him, but based on his public persona and his comments, I'd think he has matured somewhat. I'd agree with Ed 002 in that he does get his point across well.

10 Aug 2016 12:24:02
Hi eds, due to reports indicating an €10M buy out clause for Dahoud, would you expect us to play that fee this window to take action at the end of the season (if possible) to secure his signature and give him another season to develop?

{Ed002's Note - Forget everything about "clauses".}

10 Aug 2016 14:18:31
Is that your way of telling us Santa isn't real Ed.?

10 Aug 2016 14:35:01
Clauses mean nothing as it meant nothing when we signed Firmino.

10 Aug 2016 19:17:20
Who's Claus?

10 Aug 2016 19:40:31
Firmino's € clause was to other clubs in Germany. No?

09 Aug 2016 20:06:16
Hi eds any further updates with regards to outgoing loans or sale. llori wisdom alberto Lucas benteke balo yesil. still think they won't be us in New season.

{Ed002's Note - Not beyond what has already been said.}

10 Aug 2016 11:15:00
Is Yesil still with LFC?

{Ed002's Note - No he is a free agent.}

10 Aug 2016 11:33:00
Bhav, it is more than two months since Yesil left the club, he is one of the 26 ( 18 permanent, 8 loans ) departures from our first team and U21's this summer.

10 Aug 2016 07:41:28
On sky sports website you can watch the cup goals. Dunn took all his well, some really good looking goals in that game.

Hat-Trick hero.

10 Aug 2016 01:46:25
Right folks got to good topic to debate here. Imo against the top teams a DM is a must a specialist if u like, now as we all no lucas is injured which leaves kev stuart now I'm not sure if he's quite ready to start at the Emirates opening day? But what I will say is that this kid is developing at a rate of knots, I thought he was awesome against Barcelona I no friendly ra ra ra but compare him from was it Exeter last season. as I say just summat to discuss but how would the reaction be on here or Twitter if Kev Stuart started on sat at the Emirates, I think he deserves his shot actually.

10 Aug 2016 04:26:05
He is ready to play arsenal in ny opinion.

10 Aug 2016 04:30:06
I'd be utterly shocked and dismayed.

I'd be ok if Kevin Stewart started though. Seems like he could make another step up.

A little bit like a McMahon, no?

10 Aug 2016 06:44:43
22 years old, he is still young but old enough to be a regular, so now needs to show consistency to get that starting spot each week.

I really hope he can continue to develop as I see a lot of Didi Hamann in his styles and footballing gestures.

One for perhaps Mr Alladyce to consider if he is a regular too!

10 Aug 2016 08:12:34
Keep him the fook away from fat Sam. But agree he was great against Barcelona looking like he has the ability to become a first choice well done kev lad. Crack on
yNWA.

10 Aug 2016 08:49:41
So after a few OK cameo appearances you've got him as a regular in our side and an international, and some people say fans over react!

Nothing against the kid and he may well turn into a good player and I hope he does but small steps hey, let the kid find his way.

10 Aug 2016 09:28:31
Agree with Waro on this, I think he looks neat and tidy on the ball and can evidently read the game. However on numerous occasions I saw him squander possession, never force the issue with play and rarely was dominant in the mid. Has a long way to go for me to be a regular.

10 Aug 2016 10:15:36
Waro is right.

Too much pressure

Puts a foot wrong and the vultures on here will be out in force.

10 Aug 2016 10:36:54
Well said waro.

10 Aug 2016 11:33:41
Don't necessarily agree about 'DM is a must', I think we get too wrapped up in the latest 'tactical norm' and are afraid to step outside the box. A world class midfielder can perform the function of a DM without being designated/ limited to that position. It's all about how you organise the midfielders.
As for Stewart, he did well against Barcelona but they were so far behind us in terms of fitness that I don't think it's a good comparison.
Selection should be in merit and according to tactical plan. If he's doing well in training then there's no reason why he shouldn't start against Arsenal.
If he wants to be a regular he needs more games and more experience.

10 Aug 2016 13:11:40
Stewart is nearly 23. He is hardly a kid. At his age he should be wanting a starting spot which i don't think he will get at Lfc.

10 Aug 2016 20:15:28
I would be absolutely devastated as he will be knackered if we start him on Saturday as we don't play them till Sunday 😉. I would be happy to start him I think he is coming on very nicely but I will await to see what klopps team is and just hope we can pick up the three points and get a positive start to the new season.