Liverpool Banter Archive July 11 2013

11 Jul 2013 22:58:55
Think if LFC actually accepted a bid from AFC they would crap themselves, they do the same thing every year and talk about signing this player and that to placate the fans and then.nothing. If it did come off though then what a piece of crap Suarez would turn out to be eh? As if we haven't had to put up with enough with his behavior and then have the cheek to move to another English club after saying its the English media who are making him move would be totally ridiculous and would prove what a person he really is.

11 Jul 2013 22:45:11
Evening eds and all who are home from the beach.

with mario gomez leaving Bayern Munich that leaves mandzukic as their only Recognised center Foward, and with the guys at the top of their trade all heading to france, surely pep would like to purchase our luis, also with thiago alacantra looking "nailed on" for bayern, that leaves shaqiri, kroos, gustavo and muller looking for game time, with the execption of kroos any of the others would be a welcome addition to Liverpool. ie suarez to munich and muller or shaqiri to Liverpool.

Muller will play as a false nine.

RedKopite

Kroos is a boss player!

11 Jul 2013 22:14:32
feel wanyama was a missed opportunity, 12m, quality CDM and can play centre back?. i'd of looked to bring in wanyama and as suarez is keen to leave see how plausible higuain + cash would be?. two quality signings. That said if what rogers has said is true as in all are squad players and now looking at starting 11 could pull out some nice buys. I feel aspas will be a regular over downing, he could get shipped out. Tbh he's improved a vast amount but given age when we have younger wingers I guess i'd let him move on should he want to and get him off the books

If he is as good as you say why has he just signed for Southampton? No offence to the saints just saying why hast he signed for a big club?!

McGeady is MUCK. No end product at all.He only got so many Ireland caps cause there was no one to challange him but I think he may have some compitation now.
BarryinLouth

Southampton is clearly a club which is trying to step up it's profile and take itself to the next level. It shows a lot of ambition for Wanyama to go there, that being said, it seemed like Newcastle were showing a lot of ambition and we saw how that turned out last season.

11 Jul 2013 22:03:10
I'd got use to the thought that the players we have signed up to now were the types of player we could attract and afford, but now BR is on the Sky web site and BBC saying he has brought in squad players and that he will now be bringing in first team players?
Bit confused here Ed, if a player like Aspas is just considered a squad player who is he looking at as first team players?
Is their honestly no rumours that your aware of?
I hope he hasn't made another comment like he did when he first took over about a plyer that will really excite all the fans. I think he's doing a good job myself, and I hope he has some other good players in mind but he has a habbit of saying things that the press pick up on, and they come back to haunt him.

He never said a player would be signed that "excited" the fans. That was reportedly Ayre and probably misquoted.

It's quite simple. He has improved the squad.

Toure replaced Carra
Mignolet one of two keepers competing for jersey - he's not going to say one is preferred other right now he is he?
Alberto replaces Shelvey and BR clearly thinks he's ma the squad stronger like for like and Aspas replaces Carroll who want in the squad last year. Where is the mystery?

I'll bet when toure played for city and carra playeed for LFC carra was better - now he's not!

11 Jul 2013 22:07:02
@LFC: BR: in early part of summer we've improved the squad. Now over the next 3-5 weeks we improve the team.

To me this sounds like "bigger" signings to come, but it could also mean no more signings.
Thoughts?

He means improve the team in training I assume.

Not if you read the whole interview, instead of taking out of context. RedTurk

That is what I assumed but on bbc the article is titled "rodgers plans more signings". bit confused, eds? {Ed001's Note - hardly, read the interview in full instead of these crappy soundbites and it is obvious he is talking about adding some first team players.}

11 Jul 2013 22:03:54
Ed0022 seems to think arsenal and Liverpool are bentekes most likely destinations if he leaves. Have spurs shown no interest in him?

Benteke the player himself according to london press favours spurs.

11 Jul 2013 21:49:45
hi eds I know its abit of a long shot but do any of you have any idea what positions we are still looking to strengthen {Ed052's Note - CAM/wing, CB, and possibly LB, CDM}

So, Bernard, Jorginho, Ilori, Sandro

Marc

Sandro isn't for sale and has no interest in LFC nor do LFC have interest in him.

I think he meant Alex sandro the porto LB.

Yep, I did mean Alex Sandro formally of Santos.

Marc

Luiz gustavo LB, CB, CDM

11 Jul 2013 21:37:48
So swansea sign bony, southampton sign wanyama-not saying we should have signed them, but they are certainly ambitious signings for their respective clubs and high quality ones. Yet we seem to have a lot of people among us who feel we cannot even sign targets of swansea and southampton because they don't feel we are good enough for them, that they wouldn't want to come.

For gods sake guys, we are Liverpool football club! No matter where we stand in the table we are still one of the bigest, finest clubs in the world, I am surr if we actually asked them world class players would come to us, but instead we sit here and pretendf we aren't attractive?

Come on guys, have some ambition!

Anonymous woolback

Agreed. Bony and Wanyama are both fantastic signings, I can see Swansea being dangerous with Bony and Michu if they link up well early on. However, I'm sure if Liverpool had gone in for either of them we'd have been able to sign them. Just got to trust that BR and the scouting team know what they're doing. Early promise from January onwards is showing it is going in the right direction, however this transfer window is going to be crucial. I have faith in it, but I can see why others don't.

Either way, I think we'll sign some more top players this window, and I'm sure we'll beat teams to them.

JFT 96

JP

AHOY - I view both as a thorough waste of money and revel in the fact that a combined £24m has been wasted by other clubs.

Wanyama is a Boupa Papa Dioup for a new generation and Bony is a Diouf clone, pitiful

BOILED ONIONS

I am a Saints supporter and can't comment on these particular players but if you look carefully at Saints they have a VERY young squad, and they have a good reputation for giving talented players a chance at an early age. I believe BR has a little way to go in this respect so can quite understand that some young players will feel they get a better chance at Saints to play regularly.

We rejected Bony after a trial a few years ago and Wanyama may only be at Southampton's level.
There are other players out there.
ANFIELDPETE

11 Jul 2013 22:14:13
Mate the window has only just opened, rogers proved with his signings in January players don't have to be big names for big money, coutihno has been class as has sturridge, how do u no aspas and Alberto won't be the same, plus I'm sure Rogers will be bringin in a few more, Rogers has got us play in great football and we r moving forward,

Chill our a bit

W.b

Not high quality, more mid table quality to be precise.

Very Very few world class players come to the PL - quite a few leave after a few years that can maybe be called that.
A few Ex players of that ilk come nearing the end of their careers.

Wanyama, and Bony, although both quality players are most certainly not world class.

LFC vs saints no comparison, expectation is different, for any new player needs to hit the ground running at LFC or wait on the bench for his chance.

Bony&Ex-Celtic guy are mid table players at best.
BarryinLouth

11 Jul 2013 21:21:09
I'm glad Ed052. Hendo just gives 100% every time but some posters wouldn't be to upset if he left.Just one more question please.In your honest opinion do you feel we could do better than Johnson&Enrique, cause I believe we can do better.
BarryinLouth. {Ed052's Note - Yes, I don't believe either full back is good enough, in the long term}

Johnson and Enrique are both awful defenders, i'd prefer have Kelly right back and sign a decent LB,

majestic69

Seriously.

Not good enough. Don't make me laugh.

Alfie

I disagree COMPLETELY over Enrique. I think he is the best left back we have had for years and years, defensively he has improved his game so much positionally and he has got fitter and fitter meaning he is much quicker and stronger than he was when he joined us. In attack he is solid, I wouldn't say as good as Riise but he's not far off and is much more consistent in attack.

I agree with you about Johnson- his defensive game is not brilliant and in attack he seemed to have been losing towards the back end of last season, I think next season would be a great time to let Kelly have an extended run at right-back so BR can have a proper look at him and decide whether he needs to splash the cash on a replacement should Johnson leave.

(Sorry for using caps earlier, I just feel strongly about Enrique as I think he is a class player and doesn't get nearlt as much praise and attention as he deserves!)

RedKopite

Absolutely agree Ed. Johnston has some serious lapses in concentration which leads to his poor defending and gives the impression sometimes that he isn't trying very hard. Enrique thinks he is a Matador by not releasing the ball quick enough, he also doesn't overlap very well and his final ball & goal threat is very average. Can defend better than Johnston though who I think is currently the most overrated player in a Liverpool shirt (for some years now).

Ciario80

Let's be honest folks. They are not the best defenders out there.We need the best if we are to take the next step.
BarryinLouth

11 Jul 2013 21:12:32
Few rumours around Siem De Jong, is this just another in a long line of us being linked with players or do you know of any interest in De Jong?

Yeah sorry mate my bad, was reading about Juve signing Ogbonna and got mixed up

11 Jul 2013 18:35:32
Ed002, you mentioned earlier that Real Madrid would be making an offer for Suarez. Do you see this being a borderline derisory offer and subsequently this transfer saga dragging out all summer similar to that of modric?

Cheers
Greggers {Ed002's Note - Everyone wants the matter dealt with ASAP.}

Arsenal had £30m turned down, I reckon they'll put a put in a couple of million more on the table to start with. Possibly £20-25m with a fringe player thrown in.

Arsenal is a rival club we should tell them 50m or hands off. Let Madrid make a move they have the money to afford him. I just don't want Suarez coming back to haunt us at arsenal.

Suarez for Walcott, Wilshere and a plate of pie and mash.luvvly jubbly!
ANFIELDPETE

Well madrid will offer 40m euro. that's just over 35m pounds so if arsenal come in with 35m we may just see it accepted

11 Jul 2013 18:33:18
Ed002, do you think the next player we sign during this window will be Ilori, or are there any other deals 'in the pipeline {Ed002's Note - ICAQAT.}

11 Jul 2013 21:08:32
Hi All Red's. Just a question to anyone in a better placed than me(Ed's included). Why is the question of Henderson may be leaving STILL being brought up?He came down from Sunderland a young lad for a big, big price(not his fault)His debut season he spent most out of positon.He was under massive pressure from day one to perform and when he didn't he got slated.But fair play to the young man he got his head down and worked really hard as we all saw in the 2nd half of last season.Do you see the look on his face when he scores sometimes I think his head is going to explode he's that happy.He's U-21 captain and has been in the underage set up a while.The lad is a class act and as a lot of posters say here maybe a future vice-captain.But as I said I just can't understand people suggesting he may go.He has a massive future at this club.So if anyone can explain to me I would be so happy.
P.S. To ALL Ed's, thank you so much for all your hard work.Only for you with all the information you have for us we would all be lost, Respect Ed's.
BarryinLouth {Ed052's Note - Cheers mate. I don't see Hendo leaving - its just another rumour}

11 Jul 2013 18:34:05
Hi eds
I'm worries that a lot of potential players that we could buy are going elsewhere and agree with Ed002 that although the additions we have made aren't bad, they aren't enough to leave us with a top 4 quality side

We are significantly weak in 4 areas, both fullback positions, centre back and defensive midfield and I hear of very few targets that we are actively pursuing, the only one being ilori, who is unproven and lacks experience

So I ask Eds are we actively pursuing any realistic first team players? Or is the club keeping quiet extremely well? Are we now going back to the "drawing board", now we've lost out on top targets?

A confused Mac {Ed052's Note - AT the minute, Ilori, and that is it. Unless I am missing someone very obvious}

"What we've done in the early part of the summer is to improve the squad. That's something I feel we've done with the players we've brought in.

"Now what's important over the next three to five weeks is improving the team. That's something the club is working very hard at.

"I'm sure by the time the end of August comes we'll be ready and we'll have a terrific squad ready to challenge."

Brendan today.

More to come, be patient, have faith.

11 Jul 2013 20:12:20
Just a thought to put out there if Madrid want Suarez can higuain be part of the deal we will want a replacement with proven record higuain plus cash sounds a good deal?

11 Jul 2013 19:53:31
I have a question. Are the people moaning about us signing Louis Alberto because he played for a second division club the same people moaning we missed out on his team mate deufelou?

Just a thought. Wind your necks in, there's just no pleasing some people

11 Jul 2013 18:03:03
Why is there so many people here intent on selling Henderson. Is it just me who thinks he is starting to come good and he's still young. {Ed022's Note - I agree and I've been saying this since day one.}

Even though I agree I thought almost everyone here did aswell, certainly not 'many posters'!

RedKopite

Challo I think there's a couple of mis-guided peeps on here he's coming good and will only get better.

Hi Ed`s great site, just wanted to say I believe henderson is the last player we should sell. He may not be technically elite however he has passion by the bucketload, always gives 150 per cent and loves the club. BR will improve him. This is the type of player we should be buying not selling!

I tend to agree he has been growing into his role - We all should remember many of these young guys arrive at a team being expected to fill the boots of men from our heydays. They not only need time but they need to be brought along with patience (a commodity Rogers has in abundance) but sadly we fans are lacking. Personally, I feel many of our players have reached a good place regarding presence and confidence - a bit more quality in first team should help cement the consistency. And looks like Rogers is planning that.
Col

Posted last night, that I think he could potentially be captain in a few years time. Don't get the get rid of him brigade at all.

Agree on Henderson giving 100% every time he plays but can anyone name his position or even make a guess as to what would be his best position.
For me therein lies the problem with Henderson.
I just laugh when people say he's a future captain.
He will never be a first name on the teamsheet type of pl;ayer but would always be an invaluable and ultra reliable squad player.
Think most top teams will have players like Henderson that can come in and do a really good job in a number of different positions.

Have to agree with kidmillions. At the moment, as much as I absolutely love Henderson, I don't see him in the starting 11 and not really sure who he would replace. I don't know that he's really a Coutinho-like CAM, that his ability to pass long is at Gerrard levels or that he has the same ability to read the game as Lucas. I guess if I were BR I would be having him hang out with Lucas and learn the trade of a CDM as I think he could (with a bit of work) be a very, very good one.

Box to box mid role is his best position, Stevie is getting on now, and not saying in any way he could ever replace Gerrard, but, I think that's where he'll end up and, I think he has the potential to be good there. Remember Gerrard also, started his career playing all over the place, RB, RW, DM. You're right though in that he'll have to make a position his own sooner rather than later or end up like Milner, but he's still only 23 and has time yet.

11 Jul 2013 17:36:11
Ed I am a regular reader and do put some of my own views forward every now and then but I`m really interested if you have any views as to how the rest of the transfer window will unfold for us? I`m quite pleased with are business so far. Think Aspas will be a very good signing as well as Mignolet. Toure a shrewd bit of business and have always rated him. He still has a couple of seasons at the top left. Luis Alberto has great potential and will also add some more flair this season. I haven`t read or heard about any rumours out their about who will likely be are next signing other than the young centre back from Sporting. What about it Ed any inside knowledge of your own.
Royzered {Ed022's Note - If I'm putting on my 'fan' goggles, then I have really high hopes for this Transfer Window as I feel this is the summer where Liverpool really build a team that can push on and really challenge (which we haven't done in a few years, now). BR is a fantastic manager in my opinion, and he has one hell of an eye for talent so despite the fact that the names he looks at aren't deemed as 'marquee' or 'tent' or whatever you want to call it, they're real steals. With this in mind, the rest of the transfer window should bode well - I mean, if I personally dream big and fill myself with total optimism, could we get Eriksen - a player in which I feel is utterly world class? Who will we get to replace Suarez - bearing in mind all of the Suarez money will be available to get that replacement? I'm really excited about the rest of the window if I'm honest, and I think other fans should be to. Last season (as a football fan in general) I felt so disheartened watching or caring about the PL as I felt it was the worst ever season since it's existence - but this year I think it's going to explode. So do I feel optimistic? Yes, certainly. Do I feel that we'll sign everyone in the world? No, definitely not. Expect the unexpected and you'll always feel surprised - much like a child on christmas morning. I hope this answers your question.}

Haha very good

I could say but I'd only be guessing.

11 Jul 2013 22:02:58
Hey I'm lovin Ed0022.wheres he been? that reply was great! Marquee/tent quote was pure class! Can we now insert 'tent' now every time some dullard sap of a 'fan' bemoans our lack of 'marquee' signings?

Anyways nuf respect Ed0022. we need to see more of you!
In Buck we trust!

11 Jul 2013 17:15:59
Just wondering if anyone knows if LFC still have an association or affiliation with Genk in Belgium?
If so, wasn't Benteke & De Bruyne bought from there by Villa and Chelsea respectively for reasonably small money?
Why or what went wrong that LFC missed out on these players if we still have that affiliation I wonder?
Sorry if I'm wrong with my info, not trying to doom and gloom things, just asking.
I'm actually one of those excited for us this season.
Need 2 or 3 more quality players in my opinion and we'll have a good go at things.
Thanks in advance for any answers.

11 Jul 2013 17:13:42
Personally I have no problem with Suarez being sold to whoever but I find it hard to believe that he's only worth 40m when you see what some other players are valued at.eg Bale 85, Cavani 60 and falcao 50 million. To me Suarez is worth about the same as Cavani but no less than Falcao. WEXRED

He costs less because he is on the pitch less

He probably would be, but Cavani and Falcao don't have a tendency to bite people. (Plus the other stuff of course).

He's never injured, so he'll more than likely play more games than Cavani, Falcao etc

11 Jul 2013 14:32:58
Any chance Pacheco could stay? {Ed022's Note - I'm going to say...not really.}

11 Jul 2013 16:21:29
Eds I know that player swaps are always extremely unlikely but a thought came into my head re. the Arsenal bid for Suarez. Obviously we have to be realistic so no Wilshere, Cazorla or Walcott. I was thinking along the lines of Vermaelen + cash for Suarez. What do you think? Strengthens our defence well while still getting a fair bit of cash into the kitty.

Cheers,

Irish redman {Ed002's Note - No, won't be happening.}

No thanks would rather seem him out of the country than play for another prem team

Why would we sell our best player to a rival. seriously if after everything Lpool sell to another EPL club I will never trust our owners with anything again.

Arsenal don't actually want him and are just threatening to drive the price up for Suarez if they don't move forward with Higuan.

11 Jul 2013 15:51:19
All went well at training to-day, apart from Aspas and Alberto struggling with the heat .

Skrtel looked particularly sharp .

Love it - the 2 Spanish lads struggling with the heat - you just couldn't make it up - or could you?

11 Jul 2013 17:03:12
Yeah i'm sure the Spaniards found it difficult to cope!

The Spanish lads were struggling with the heat? Yeh ok kidder.

How can 2 Spaniards have a problem with the heat??

It would seem that a lot of the humour posted today is being lost on most. :-)

SpudRed

It probably wasn't the heat but the humidity we get here, Spain is hot but not the same heat we get here nowadays, its humid which makes them sweat more which makes them tired easier, just because they come from a hot country has no bearing on the matter.

Were is the scouse humour gone

mayhem 1981

11 Jul 2013 15:33:39
Hi Eds,
BR press conference today made for very interesting reading. He made it clear that his 4 signings to date are to strengthen the squad and future 3/4 signings this window will be to strengthen the team.
Contrary to some comments on here that suggests owners are willing to make funds available with a couple of marquee signings with the balance made up of further exits from the likes of Coates, Downing, Henderson, etc. However I don't think that means it includes Suarez. I feel sure he will only leave if its in Europe for a minimum £40M and maybe player exchange. Personally I think if nothing moves quickly I think we can turn him round and get him to stay until January. With our fixtures well set up we could well find ourselves in the shake up at that time. If we aren't we should let him go. He won't be cup tied thus available for clubs going into the latter stages of CL and a valuable asset still. What do you think and any news on anything advance stages of further additions

Why would we sell Henderson?

Missed the PC, hopefully its posted on Youtube. Sounds positive for signings. Thanks for your post so I know the latest.
Agree about Luis, think unless its the top teams in Europe, RM. He may stay, like your idea of Jan window, still £40m in Jan as he'll still be in long contract
Carlo

Carlo - the transcript and video is up on the LFCtv official site.

Every player is a squad player, no player has a divine right to a place in the starting 11.
The 4 players we have bought already have just as much chance to establish themselves as any future signings no matter how much they cost.
Your only as good as your last game is very true.
With a good aquad of players, indifferent form/performances will not be tolerated.

11 Jul 2013 15:27:32
Eds if/when Suarez goes is Alexis Sanchez a viable option? Or is he sure to remain at Barca now with D.Villa gone? Great job btw. John from Adelaide

Alexis Sanchez would definatly be my choice not the same type of position as Suarez but an attacking force couple that with the options below then we have a good attacking options.

Aspas
Alberto
Coutinho
Borini
Sturridge
Sterling
Assaidi
Downing
Pacheco

Sanchez is available for the right price and as always if we bid we have a chance, Bernard is also available for around £15M, when Suarez is sold if we get these 2 then i'm sure our attack would be better suited and get more goals.

Sanchez was poor last season and is overrated

11 Jul 2013 15:06:38
Gillingham have signed Cody McDonald.

Yet ANOTHER transfer Liverpool have missed out on.

FSG OUT, Kenny Huang IN!

Sam Adzii JFT96 YNWA

Please tell me this was a joke post?

Joke? What joke.

Bulmer

/ dude I know you can't tell sarcastic posts sometimes by text but Jeez this is obviously a joke!

Just checking because its getting harder and harder to tell with some of the people on here these days lol

If you're wondering if a post was a joke, then it was. Doesn't really matter if the OP meant it that way. This method helps absorbing the trolls too.

SpudRed

Yeah I agree with that lol

Yeah that's true mate lol

Lighten up guys, it's a joke!

The real AG

We've missed out on Bramble too ffs and Falcao and Cavani - swear we'd better get Ronaldo and Messi or i've had it with BR and FSG!

Swallybean

Good to see the humour in full force today lol

11 Jul 2013 14:44:02
Don't be surprised if suarez ends up at arsenal. Reports are saying arsenal are preparing an improved bid for him. They were apparently in the verge of getting higuain but that seems to have fallen apart. Ancelotti is keen to keep him at Madrid and it would take a huge bid to land him, one that arsenal do not feel he is worth. Many people poke fun at the 70 million arsenal are reported to have simply because of their past transfer activity, but it certainly is possible that they could splash the cash. The bid they made already was real and if suarez ends up putting in a transfer request coupled with an improved bid from arsenal it could happen. Also, with suarez' agents speaking to other clubs in England, don't you think he could have had some dialogue with Real Madrid? He may be well aware that they are not as keen as previously believed, thus the reason for him shopping suarez around. Personally I don't care where he goes, just get a fair price and reinvest it in the club wisely.

Not going to happen what so ever! He will either stay at Liverpool which is doubtful or he will move abroad!

Entirely possible he will go to Arsenal. And I could care less. As long as we get the money.

11 Jul 2013 21:54:56
I don't want to be rude but it's impossible he will be sold to Arsenal. Delusions, Suarez current wages are 50 000 more than Arsenals highest paid player.

Madrid will get him soon. Ed. I'm so sorry for asking, is their a possibility of Jese as part of any deal? If he is not Sevilla bound.

Have any of you lot watched Higuain play, he lacks pace! He's slower than Podolski! I hope Arsenal get him.

11 Jul 2013 14:27:30
what does RTP mean? Have heard ed-002 say it many times but am not able to understand it. {Ed002's Note - Read The Posts.}

Can't you just tell him?

11 Jul 2013 14:45:10
ru RTP? Are you Really Taking (the) Pizza?

Thats the first thing on here today, to make giggle.
Thanks Redgie

11 Jul 2013 14:26:53
Hi Eds, thanks again for all your work. It seems that Clint Dempsey has been put up for sale although I'm not sure this is 'new' news. Given what happened last summer, is there any chance that we would resurrect our interest? He's now 30 so does not fit with our focus on younger players but he might be available at more interesting price?
Redfin

11 Jul 2013 13:54:42
Am I one of the few fans excited by this transfer window and the start of next season? Hopefully we get Saurez out quickly and for a good sum so we can get our squad ready for the summer!

We didn't get HM but there are loads of quality players out there who could improve our squad vastly! Personally would love Yarmolenko and Erickson plus a new defender, and if we're lucky DM and LB (bit optimistic). But even so there's still Payet, Lamela, Murial, Yilmaz, Bernard, Munian, Suseata, Tadic, Boudabouz, Belhanda, Tello, Wijnaldum, Chadil, Maher, Giovinco, Honda, & Griezzman (some optimistic, some not) off the top of my head. So would people relax about every "missed" signing and have faith and support BR & LFC

Honda to AC Milan
st
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Payet to Marseille, Maher to Psv, Belhanda to Kiev, Muniain and Lamela unrealistic, Tadic, Boudebouz, Tello and Chadli are not good enough
El capitano

11 Jul 2013 13:45:10
Eds. This question is towards Suso, but also general.
Are there ever concerns within the club when a young player is loaned out and gets the regular football he (and his agent) desire, that he'll want to stay.
I'm not overly worried as I'm sure Suso signed a long term contract (I guess these are a bit meaningless). At the same time a little concern comes over thinking he's Spainish, young friends family will be nearer, game time etc.
Would it be better to loan players out to countries different to their home, especially when young?
He did well off season in tournaments, seems like if he wasn't ours fans/press would be linking us to him to sign, any reason why his breakthrough season (this season) is not spent in front of Rodgers?
Thanks for any insight and thoughts
Carlo {Ed002's Note - You mean why not send him somewhere he doesn't want like just so he doesn't decide to leave? Other clubs tend to try and keep their players happy - perhaps your approach to send him to the North Korean football league will work.}

11 Jul 2013 23:06:46
LOL Ed002 absolutely priceless mate!

Puzzled Red

11 Jul 2013 13:42:37
Not surprised arsenals low bid to be honest, if they get Suarez to hand in a transfer request FSG would be forced to sell him for less or keep an unhappy player. Arsenal or any team could easily afford to give him his bonus back with the money saved on the lower transfer fee.
also don't believe for 1min they would be advertising they have 30m if they want higuain.

JOZLFC

I hope and believe we will not bend over to a transfer request. We did it with Torres, he submitted a transfer request but we stood firm and got 50 million. And we must remeber here we will be selling to our direct rivals for 4th spot so we must hold for as high as atleast 45 million.

Where on earth did that little nugget of information come from? - putting in a written transfer request does not in any way affect the amount of money the club want for a player.

11 Jul 2013 13:11:21
Heard rumours that we're in talks with Ajax over erikson, this just recycled rumours or could there be some truth to it? {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

11 Jul 2013 12:44:22
If this season is a failure like the last few I honestly think we should 'do a Dortmund' and start from the bottom. let's build the best Under 16s side in the world and in 6 years time we'd be back amongst the elite spending nothing at all with Stevie Gerrard as manager. Just a thought (or a dream) {Ed002's Note - That would be just another seven years of transition then?}

C'mon Ed. You can play 6-7 seasons on FIFA career mode in a couple of months. {Ed002's Note - I'll take your word for it, I know nothing of fantasy football games they did not even have any table-top football games where I grew up.}

Are you for real?

He grew up under a stone. Makes his posts alittle easier to read knowing he actually has no funny bone in his body and is therefore only half a person.

BKP

11 Jul 2013 20:08:58
To be fair Ed002, there wasnt much during the war.

The Irish Rover {Ed001's Note - Crimean War?}

11 Jul 2013 11:45:33
Alacantra lOoks like he's off to munich which is good news
Them mancs can stop braggin theyv got him

Basy

If it was Liverpool everyone would be slating Ian Ayre and FSG for their abject negotiating abilities!! Some players do want to sign for other clubs much as it pains us! 100% Red

11 Jul 2013 11:33:55
When is suarez due to return to training? It will be interesting to see if he turns up!
Jim the red {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

Due back 21st, trains again on 22nd I think.

Waltonred

Wonder if he's been doing his off season program work like the rest of the squad. :-)

Apparently depends on whether he gets a phone call or not. I suspect he well might just be getting that call.

Lets hope he uses 02 because there signal is rubbish - then he may not get that call.

11 Jul 2013 11:25:52
Hey eds ad reds
Do u think Downing will move?

Not in this window.
sj

I have the very same question looking at him on the pitch

when is downing going to move?

Class 3rd poster!

Swallybean

11 Jul 2013 10:41:09
If Lamela and Jovetic are possible transfertargets, and interested in playing for LFC, then I would love to see Suarez sold for £40M++. Buy Jovetic and lamela for £45M and still have Money left over for a New cb.

That is good business all around, younger players, great potential and less bad PR :) {Ed002's Note - They are not.}

Not a mission of Jovetic with all the interest. Lamela would be an awesome signing if you could convince him and sort out his ownership issues. He would be one player if I was manager that I would happily spend 20-25m on. {Ed002's Note - Lamela will not be moving to Liverpool. Jovetic will be moving, but not to Liverpool.}

Spoiling the muppets fun

11 Jul 2013 19:38:04
Ed002 - where is Jovetic most likely heading {Ed002's Note - I cannot sensibly answer most likely but Manchester City are making a decent effort to strike a deal for him.}

11 Jul 2013 10:22:01
Hi Eds,
I'm from Australia and we don't get much info over here regarding transfers, apart from what I read on here. Most of the ' ' is 5 days old.

Of your knowledge and opinion, who do you expect/or see/know LFC to be currently working on. I know its an open ended question but would appreciate your knowledge. twitter and the rubbish in the tabloids are a waste of time. Cheers Rumba {Ed022's Note - I can appreciate where you're coming from but unfortunately the club is on lock-down at the moment - nothing's really getting in or out. However, I honestly think a bid from Liverpool for Benteke will occur before the end of the transfer window - call it a hunch, but it would logically make sense. I still expect at least one more defender to come in and until we see a few exits I believe things may be a little quiet. I believe Liverpool (much like most other clubs) will be working on deals even as we speak.}

Do you think we have a decent chance of signing benteke? {Ed022's Note - I think we have a chance, yes.}

11 Jul 2013 10:14:24
I think Suarez will be sold in a deal like the Torres deal i.e. 1)LFC line up a deal for a suitable replacement 2) A club makes an acceptable offer 3) Suarez puts in a transfer request.

I genuinely believe that will be the agreement and that is what happened with Torres. If one of those conditions is not met, he will not be sold.

I think Real Madrid know this and I think that is why they are waiting- holding up the Higuain to Arsenal move.

He will either stay, or go to Madrid IMO.

11 Jul 2013 09:48:32
I don't understand something - why do so many of us Liverpool supporters here actively look for opportunities and reasons to feel gloomy?

When we are selling, we want the highest fee, because there are examples of better from the past. And when we are buying players, we want to pay less, because again, there are examples of better deals from the past.

For example, if we are talking about selling a player, like Suarez, we say - "Torres went for 50, we should get at least that for Suarez." What about Owen who went for 8Mill (albeit in the last year of his contract), or Van Persie who went for 20 Mill (albeit at a slightly more senior age), Higuain who is going for ~25mill, Isco for 30mill, etc.
But then when we want to sign someone, like Luiz Alberto - it is "Swansea got Michu for a pittance. Why are we paying 7m for a B team player?"

Each player has their value based on performance, style, demand, team fit, owner's financial status, and contract details. Let us, as fans, respect some very qualified people out there with their valuation.

A similar thing with hindsight too. While we definitely 'miss out' on one or two good buys in retrospect, we also miss out on several failures - year on year.

11 Jul 2013 10:20:38
Superb Post.
But not all players. some clubs just want the highest money on player who simply ain't worth.

lescot 25 mill?. javi grcia 23 mill?. Hulk 50 mill?. Jack rodwell 21 mill?. downing 20 mill?. ashley young 17 mill? allen 18 mill. anderson 20 mill?. andy caroll 36 mill?. david degea 21 mill?.

But there are some other cases where players are worth to be paid.
Micky 20 mill. silva 20 mill. hazaard 30 mill. mata 25 mill. suarez 40 mill. aguero 45 mill. carzola 17 mill. gomez 15 mill.

11 Jul 2013 11:40:59
Allen- £15 million which was his buy out clause + 0.75million signing on fee + agent fees.

Suarez- £23 million + 3 million signing on fee + agent fees.

11 Jul 2013 12:30:43
Allen had a 3 mill signing on fee. confirmed by the Ed and Allen and Liverpool FC.

11 Jul 2013 20:12:21
Confirmed by Liverpool? That's nonsense.
Clubs never release how much they pay in agent & signing on fees on their websites.
Allen confirmed himself? Again nonsense, going by how much you slag him off I'm 200% sure you don't know him personally.
Ed002 please, did Allen get 3 m? Cheers {Ed002's Note - I don't know and am not going to check as I really don't want to get in to the money.}

No problem at all, your response is good enough to prove at least you didn't confirm it like Harry said. Thank you.

11 Jul 2013 09:40:04
Perez was quoted as saying, "We want players with an INSATIABLE HUNGER."

Could that be a 'read between the lines' signal to Suarez that real madrid are coming for him?

NOT.

:-)

11 Jul 2013 09:21:59
I think Martin Kelly and Andre Wisdom is quality cover for right back and centre back.
However we don't have players that can do the same on the left.
I think Liverpool should buy Mamadou Sakho and Tiago Ilori to be the left back and centre back cover.

We could see Johnson, Toure, Skrtel, Agger and Enrique leave in the next couple of seasons.
Leaving the path clear for these players to make their way through.

Sakho is 24 next birthday . Do you really think he wants to spend time waiting to make his way through?

Sakho will not join to cover anyone. If he were to come, he would be a starter.

The real AG

Sakho is a quality CB & would be an instant starter.

Chaki

Totally agree, Kelly & Wisdom are good enough to cover CB! Regardless of weather or not Skrtel & Coates leave the only defender i'd bring in is Ilori as he can play CB or LB so like Kelly & Wisdom he is young, good and gives us options at the back., also McLaughlin will most defiantly be our 1st choice RB within 2 years, our problem is as you say LB as Robinson is not ready and Enrique has no competition.

CB options:

Toure - Agger
Wisdom - Kelly
Jones/Sama - Ilori

RB options:

Johnson
McLaughlin
Wisdom
Kelly

LB options:

Enrique
Robinson
Johnson(when needed)
Ilori

We would have lots of options at the back versatility and in

McLaughlin_Wisdom_Kelly_Robinson/Ilori we would have the future back 4 as they are all young and good.

When I said cover I didn't mean that Johnson, Skrtel, Toure, Agger and Enrique were automatic first choice.
McLaughlin, Wisdom, Kelly, Sakho, Ilori, Robinson should be the competition.

11 Jul 2013 08:56:27
It's seems like there is a second bid from Arsenal over 40.7 Mil Euros for Luis Suarez.
I can't see Suarez ending up at one of our rivals and I personally think he will move to Real.

I also think it's the right way to sell Luis, if he wants the move.

It's going to be a tough one to find a replacement for Luis.
I rate Sturridge and I think he has potential, when BR let's him start regular.
As I'm still not sure about the real quality of Borini and the skills of Aspas, we surely need one more striker (of quality and a real scorer).

I really hope BR doesn't make a hasty move, after failing for HK, and we splash out the cash for another dissapointment.
It's difficult on the market right now for a club like Liverpool - no CL this season means it's hard to lure quality players for a good price and too many players which are only mediocre and overpriced.

But I'm sure BR can bring back good times at Anfield and we can go for a Top 4 spot in the next 2 years, if we'll be organised well in the defence and can bring one more striker with a goal ratio of 15+/season.
I see Kolo as a regular starter to bring in steadyness toghether with Agger (if he stays).

btw. thanks Ed's for the good work, it's really a pleasure to get regulary updates during the transfer window.

Cheers from Switzerland

11 Jul 2013 09:28:24
Pretty Much sensible post.
But What if real fails to bid somehwere of arsenals?
and it ends up as arsenal being the highest bidder?.

Keep suarez?. or sell suarez for the highest money from arsneal?

He doesn't want here. and If he moves to arsenal means, he won't be winning any trophies, But it shows how much he misses CL.
I am 110% sure. Arsenal won't pay an extra ordinary wages like chelsea.

We should have been in the CL this seaosn, if we had bought some good pure quality players in the past.

Sell Suarez to the highest bidder. We can replace him with one/two quality players who can take his responsibility of scoring as many goals.

Chaki

Suarez is on a lot per week probably more than Arsenal will pay.

I suspect they are trying to force R.Madrid's hand with bids for Suarez.

I believe Wenger wants Higuain but Madrid won't sell until they have a replacement lined up. I suspect they may not even want Higuain to leave so Suarez may not be an option for them anymore.

I suspect PSG and Chelsea are probably the best position clubs to sign Suarez.

I personally think he won't be going anywhere this summer but I also know things can change very quickly so I'm resigned to him going.

What I want if they do sell Suarez is the club to make they have a plan b if he goes so we don't end up with a Carroll for £35m scenario again!

YNWA JFT96 jns

11 Jul 2013 08:11:51
Hai ed great work. and keep up.

I am pretty much sure suarez would be leaving to either Arsenal or RM.
If he moves to arsenal we should go all out and get Muriel and Errikson. or Lamela.
yes there are lots of obstructions, But that's the way to show intentions.
This building of academy setup and youth promotion would go parallel. what we need is real impact players on the pitch for atleast next 40 games. to get us 70 points.
And for this you must have real quality players.
lamela or Muriel would be my ideal choice.
splash 20 mill and get them.

We are in for Jorinho who would cost 8-9 mill a deep lying play maker from B division, when we have an 18 mill Allen here.

we ahve loaned out Suso and bought Alberto for 7-8 mill which is actually beyond me.

The next 3 signings 2 attacking and a defender should be top draw, starting eleven.
No more young talent. we have plenty in our academy.

BR, you showed us the faith, Now Make us dream.

11 Jul 2013 08:02:52
Lets just get rid of Suarez now, get him abroad though Real Madrid! After standing by him for so long he's got no respect for the club, RM for £40M Peter W

11 Jul 2013 09:41:54
Mate its not about respect., .

Every player professional respect most of the clubs, Its about where the clubs stands?

Micky didn't turn up for the training for Shakthar and fans here were fine with it. what you call for it?. disrespect?

Players want to play for the club who sit right up.

Mingloet left sudnerland. benteke handed a transfer request. its just coz. these two clubs won't play CL in their History and every player want to have some trophies under their Belt.

So what you think how many years would countinho and sturrdige be at Liverpool?
10. 15 years?

Jesus christ. some doesn't have a clue

So it has nothing to do with the extra 30k a week they would be paid then? Money is the biggest motivator in football simple

Oh the Irony! Harry telling somebody they don't have a clue! haha keep it coming Harry quality!

Harry, can't even read your post, not even grammatically correct. Do a course in literacy and numeracy please before posting!

Respect

Harry,

You are a hypocrite. I clearly remember you spouting about Suarez loving LFC and the reason he wants out is the media.

I will use a word you have used before to describe others, CHAMELEON.

The real AG

11 Jul 2013 07:58:16
Any updates on Jorginho?

11 Jul 2013 03:42:39
Open question re Assaidi -
i'm sure I read on here that he was not Rogers' signing - so does anyone know who did?
Despite looking quite useful in the few games he played it sounds as if he'll be moving on . serious enquiry -what's the story? {Ed052's Note - Of course Assaidi was a BR signing.}

So like he asked, what's the story with him?

I asked the same question a while back. I too thought he looked decent in some of his cameo appearances. I'm guessing then, Buck has seen enough in training to suggest he's not what he wants or maybe he just hasn't settled in the UK and therefore why he'd return to Holland. Personally I'd like him to stay. He may not be a star player, but I'm sure he'd do a good job for other good teams.

Jon

10 Jul 2013 22:12:59
Hi Ed052,
Just a quick question please:
It's nothing really to do with players, it's just a fact that I'd be happy to know. Is there players out there that BR is looking at, and we have heard nothing about it? For example (and I mean an example). Could BR just suddenly announce that they have signed Messi for £x even though no stories of him being linked to Liverpool are out there?

Hard to understand, I know. Sorry for the difficult phrasing.

Thanks a whole lot! {Ed052's Note - Yes mate, it is certainly possible. It happened with Assaidi. No one had heard of him, or any links, and BANG, it was on the website. It is very unlikely however, unless the selling club are as secretive as Liverpool.}

11 Jul 2013 00:50:55
Dear eds, as a Liverpool fan I don't really read your rumours sites for other teams so I was wondering if you could tell me if other fans are as overly dramatic as ours, we miss out on one player who fans had built up to be the next messi and suddenly its all "FSG out" and " Liverpool will finish 9th next season", " Worst team we ever had". Are others fans realistic or are they all doom mongerers and pecimists like ours? {Ed002's Note - No, it is an area where Liverpool posters excel.}

11 Jul 2013 03:08:40
Of coarse you will expect that, especially looking at our situation, we haven't played champions league for 5-6 years now, just imagine what if united or chelsea or Arsenal be in same situation like us, do you think their fans would be joking, laughing, enjoying etc, I have followed this great club for years & its one of the biggest & most famous club with global fans that can challange any club, LIVERPOOL & Its worldwide fans deserve much more, despite lack of success for years, fans complaing, frustration, arguing with eachother, change of generation, etc have always stayed loyal no matter what & will always stay loyal, Their is a saying that if FOOTBALL WAS RELIGION, ANFIELD WOULD BE CHURCH, that should be enough how passionate fans are for this Great club & that will never change despite our own opinions about the club! A red will always stay red till death!

I don't think this website represents the whole of Liverpool supporters at all.

That makes me feel special. :)

11 Jul 2013 10:20:11
Supposed "season ticket" holders wants us to sell all the players and start from scratch.
The pessimism has reached new highs.

11 Jul 2013 00:19:35
hello eds

what is the genuine situation with assaidi, regarding where he is now because he showed signs of promise, he looked good in europe last season. do you know what it is then rodgers doesn't seem to like the look of. is there more going on behind scenes with him.

thanks for any reply.

southern scouse {Ed002's Note - I think there is a good chance of a move back to the Netherlands.}

Rumours of Feynoord interest now.

The real AG

11 Jul 2013 00:20:03
I know we wanted MH, but didn't want to pay the fee. But do the. Gooners actually believe they are in for these three top strikers?

Exclusive: Arsenal Still After Luis Suarez, Wayne Rooney And Gonzalo Higuain . All this for £70m including fee's. lol.

Ynwa

Arsenal will sign one of the 3 mentioned. I still think it will be Higuain.

The real AG

11 Jul 2013 07:21:54
If they could pull up 2 out of three. and forget CL for next 5 years.