Liverpool Banter Archive July 11 2015

11 Jul 2015 21:47:45
Hi ed 1 or 2.

I know this is the European stuff but who are bayern looking to replace bastian with?

Internally or out sourced?

No chance your 'we'll see' could be related to this?

Coutinho??

{Ed002's Note - Try the Euro pages.}

12 Jul 2015 02:24:03
They are totally different positions!!??

11 Jul 2015 21:34:06
Its funny , last year when Alonso went to Bayern I saw endless posts saying "why haven't we tried to sign him" at the age of 32. We sign a player of the same standard 2 years younger and he's "finished". Bar a just paid £30m for a 29 year old Turan. No one bats an eyelid. Sour grapes. Deep down not one of you would rather have Milner than Schweinsteiger.

I don't think many of you are really happy with your transfers deep down, so kidding yourself over our makes you feel better. Quite amusing

11 Jul 2015 21:58:32
Actually i'd much rather Milner thanks. Good of you to pop by!!

11 Jul 2015 22:16:54
Bayern aren't stupid . They know he's done . He's good for the odd game . He made how many starts for them last yr . No doubt he was a top top player . But your deluded if you think you are getting a peak player . Good signing . Image etc . But he's best yrs are behind him . I've no envy at all on this and that's been honest . Schneiderlin is a better get imo.

11 Jul 2015 22:20:22
I wouldn't have neither. One is like alike to Henderson and the other is slow and old.
UTD ll regret if they fail to bring Morgan Schniderline.

11 Jul 2015 22:32:19
I would prefer Milner! Joe Alan had better stats last season

11 Jul 2015 22:28:52
Different type of players. BS is (or was in his prime) a box to box midfielder. Could be a good buy for Utd, but very injury prone too. Although I really don't care who you buy tbh. I only concentrate on Liverpools players.

11 Jul 2015 22:39:24
Nonesense, Stand! Age is not the issue. Schweini has lost two steps and if Alonso who is older can keep him out of the team then that tells you what you need to know. Dragging other players into this is a weak attempt at deflection. I'm not talking about Turan, Milner or whoever else. I'm talking about Schweini, a great player who I have watched and loved since his debut in 2002 but who is no longer the player he used to be and until proven otherwise, looks like a weird signing. Try to stay on topic next time you post.

11 Jul 2015 22:46:13
Alonso has never relied on pace and physicality as much as the swine who is a tough box to box player. Alonso's biggest strength is his passing range which survives age a lot better.

11 Jul 2015 23:26:35
Why are United, a team with untold riches buying a player who is in the twilight of his career? Why are Munich letting him go if he is still that good? Why has his impact over the past few seasons dwindled, kept out of the team by an older Alonso? These are the questions you should be asking.

11 Jul 2015 23:41:41
The fact he only started 20 odd games last season is largely down to injury. Just last year he was the best player in the World Cup final by a country mile. Nobody said were getting him at his peak, so that's irrelevant. But your foolish if you don't think he will improve our side for 3 years or so! Why didn't Milner start for city, or for England?? Why aren't you asking yourself that?

As for stats , we could be here all day regarding stats. Floored way of comparing, stats can make anyone look good! Example with Allen. He probably made twice the tackles schweiny did last season. But the reason for that is bayern have the ball for 70 mins per game! Therefore less tackles to make.

Hopefully Schneiderlin follows now. If he does I think we'll challenge for the title

11 Jul 2015 23:48:33
BS still has a lot left. I think BM are just clearing house of the older players to bring some of the new faces through. They have to start building for the future and BS will be looking for an extensive contract at 30 which they may not be willing to offer if in 2 years he's playing less.It seems to make sense to move him on now you have alonso there with another year left to help integrate new player and youth.
I think Bayern expect a lot from Scholl and Kurt ,though they are still young. They also have Douglas Costa returning and purchased Kimmich. I don't know if they are linked with any one,but there midfield seems to be in abundance add to that reported disheartening of goetze at lack of game time.

All just opinion though

12 Jul 2015 00:08:47
Without doubt an excellent player but never played in a different league and seeing less game time in a league with only 34 league games.

Every transfer is a risk - but I'd prefer Milner; unless Alonso is available again!

12 Jul 2015 00:48:46
It's a really stupid move from Schweinsteiger's perspective. Adapting to a new league, new country. At his age. I love the guy as a player, but I agree with the majority of posters here. As for Alonso, he's on a different planet and severely underrated by a lot of people. I haven't seen a more accomplished CM and I've spent my whole life watching Steven Gerrard.

12 Jul 2015 03:35:01
He started how many ?? 20 appearances . Carrick had more minutes . Milner started about 30 games . The German will sit deep at Utd . He's legs are done for b2b . Remember he's legs are gone! And he gets away with it at Bayern and Germany . As the unit looks great . Even boateng looked great . He will have some good games no doubt but Bayern are letting him go ! Because they can't guarantee him a game as he doesn't fit their pressing game as we all saw last season

12 Jul 2015 04:05:56
BS can be a good fit as Deep Lying Playmaker,Its good move if he is played along with a defensive midfielder who breaks up the play.Also he will provide required experience for the team in champions league.At the same time Milner will be as good as he was for Aston Villa when played centrally.So both are decent signings from the clubs.

12 Jul 2015 05:28:09
Stand-united

You're rite you can't really look at stats but the injuries he's had and the less game time he gets does make you wonder.

I think most people wanted Alonso back for sentimental reasons had he never played for us before then you may not see his name mentioned so much on these pages.

The schweinsteiger v Milner though is a tough one. Milner was free and stays pretty much injury free.

Bastian a couple of years ago no doubt pisses all over Milner but going off last year there's a lot of question marks over him.

12 Jul 2015 07:24:09
Without being biased I would stick with Ed01, Milner was certainly not needed and it's a joke to offer him 150k.
I would have thrown that wage to Lacazzate who would win us the league. With Milner coming in Can will either get rotten on the bench or at the back.

And what's this he snubbed 165k at city? Seriously? Y did he not join Arsenal then? No one apart from Liverpool would offer him150k at 30 years old.

12 Jul 2015 11:11:22
Picking up lots of injuries
Coming to the end of your career.
What's the answer?

I know, move to a faster more physical league.

11 Jul 2015 21:26:56
Dear Lord

As i lay my head down to sleep, PLEASE let me wake in the morning to the news that the Sterling transfer has been completed and we can get the blood sucking leach off our books and concentrate on the more important matter of the up and coming season.

And if you have time, could you let my lotto numbers come up too.

Amen

vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.

11 Jul 2015 22:01:03
Your off to bed early

11 Jul 2015 22:18:02
I'm off to bed too. Big ufc scrap on tnite .

11 Jul 2015 21:05:29
Eds. Could I please ask you if Liverpool ever looked at Hector Villalba?

{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}

12 Jul 2015 01:55:37
Ok. Thanks ed.
Have a great one, and best of luck for the rest of this window. ;-)

Cheers

11 Jul 2015 20:07:05
Evening all,

Been thinking about this one for a while now.

Gary Medel & Eduardo Vargas in and shut the door.

Two good players IMO but can they cut it at Liverpool?

Are they good value (if available)?

Is Medel really needed if Lucas stays?

Thoughts?

Cheers

11 Jul 2015 20:45:05
Gary Medel is a specialist in the DM position whereas Lucas Leiva came to Anfield as a CAM and has grown into the role over the years.
Medel shades it but it's probably a non-question as we won't be attractive enough.
I've got absolutely no problem with keeping Lucas because his attitude is first-class and our results are better when he plays.
However, Medel would be ideal if Lucas phones in sick !!

11 Jul 2015 20:54:29
They ain't signing so what you are saying is pure conjecture. May as well ask what the story will be should we sign Ronaldo and Messi.

11 Jul 2015 21:04:39
Apologies Seano, from reading the posts i assumed pure conjecture was acceptable here.

I agree with your thoughts AnfieldPete.

Cheers

11 Jul 2015 21:24:50
We're not signing him.

But he did join Cardiff so don't worry about the 'were not attractive enough'

We might actually be the biggest club he would of played for aswel, in terms of trophies :)

11 Jul 2015 22:22:51
Someone has to elaborate y do you need both Lucas and medal in the same team.
Keep a player because he has a good attitude?

11 Jul 2015 22:50:23
Inter is a mess right now but still ably to sign decent players so the question of being attractive is a subjective one because Inter fans think they're more attractive than us and we think the same compared to them hence, a stalemate

I hope things are going well at Airbus and with CFM, honestly I don't know much of what's going on currently as you can imagine I have other things keeping me very busy nowadays :-). Just wanted to say hi and show off our newest addition to our family!

Kind regards,
Tinneke

Sent from my iPad

12 Jul 2015 01:50:20
We're definitely bigger than inter :)

In there own country something like 70% support juventus

Of course there fans think there bigger, we get that here aswel with the Liverpool b team.

But we are a much much bigger club than inter and would therefore be medels biggest club he had played for :)

11 Jul 2015 18:40:08
So Delph turns down Man City, is this the dawn of English footballers realising it's better for their careers to play regularly rather then sitting on the bench?

11 Jul 2015 19:32:39
You can bet your house Micah Richards had an influence on Delph's decision.

11 Jul 2015 19:34:31
There's something fishy about that whole business. I guess we will never know what really happened.

11 Jul 2015 20:11:52
Maybe, as a footballer, he just wants to play football.

11 Jul 2015 20:18:04
I would have thought Scott Sinclair had a word with him as well

11 Jul 2015 22:24:18
Delph should have signed it, there are not many competitions at city ATM and they are quite struggling to buy players with majority of their targets are high end.

11 Jul 2015 22:52:10
He wouldn't have gotten a game at City ahead of Toure, Fernandinho and the like and if he wants to make the England squad for the Euros, he is better off at Villa.

11 Jul 2015 18:32:15
Past couple of days I've seen lacazette's name pop up regarding liverpool obviously there's a lot with benteke but my question is, are the rumours true i think lacazette would be perfect for liverpool

{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine - I have answered this many, many times.}

11 Jul 2015 20:56:31
We ain't ever signing Lacazette and, as the ed's have been so kind to mention, Lyon's chairman laughed at the idea of us signing him. Put it in the impossible category with Messi and Reus.

11 Jul 2015 22:27:30
He would be going for less than what Sterling would be sold and that might be an irony.

11 Jul 2015 17:54:06
Hi eds,

Do liverpool have a genuine interest in reus or is it more media rubbish?

Thanks in advance

{Ed030's Note - Use the search function. }

11 Jul 2015 17:05:16
Reports in Chile saying we are interested in Gary Medel.

11 Jul 2015 22:56:00
Done to death as the Eds would say. We have no interest, he's not interested in moving and like Kovacic, Inter isn't looking to sell.

11 Jul 2015 15:12:23
eds - do you see Sterling being added to the tour party as an attempt to get him to submit a transfer request

{Ed002's Note - He is a Liverpool player and contracted to do as instructed and go on tour. If an acceptable bid is placed before he goes on tour they may decide to leave him behind. Try not to look for underlying stories and secret messages.}

11 Jul 2015 17:36:09
Sterling will no doubt help sell tickets

11 Jul 2015 22:10:29
In Australia, all the tickets are sold i believe and i doubt many adult Liverpool supporters feel that differently about Sterling here than they do in the UK i.e. a soon to be ex-Red.

11 Jul 2015 13:35:51
Are the club still negotiating a compensation package for ings with burnley or has it gone to tribunal? Could the loaning of Sinclair to burnley be a bargaining chip in negotiations or completely unrelated?

Cheers

{Ed002's Note - It is not resolved and it is unrelated to Sinclair.}

11 Jul 2015 12:46:33
Hi eds.

Just seen sinclair not going on the pre season tour. After his tweet yesterday do you think he will be sold or more likely to go out on loan somewere? Think it would be a shame to loose him.

Cheers

{Ed001's Note - loan.}

11 Jul 2015 16:48:51
If he's ready for a championship loan, you'd hope he is first team squad material next season. Makes the origi/ings signing weird

11 Jul 2015 17:36:07
Exactly, Fencey! we just seem to stock-pile players with no idea what to do with them

11 Jul 2015 13:27:33
hi eds great work as always regarding thiago Llori I see he's been left out of the tour sqaud solely because of the u20s or are we trying to move him on ? cheers

{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine.}

11 Jul 2015 17:38:41
On holiday like Can, Couts and Firmino.

11 Jul 2015 12:54:01
So apparently Enrique, Balotelli, Borini and Illori all miss out on pre-season tour

11 Jul 2015 13:04:58
Hopefully it's just an injury to ilori.

Well not hopefully as to hurt the kid.

But that he has a future but he is unable to play.

11 Jul 2015 13:15:36
Illori, like Can, Firmino and Coutinho is still on holidays after his involvement in the U21 competition. I would hope his absence is entirely different to the reasons I suspect the other 3 you mentioned were omitted.

11 Jul 2015 13:25:54
Doesn't he get extended leave due to his involvement in the U21s euros?

11 Jul 2015 13:27:42
Ilori is on holiday. He only finished playing a week ago.

11 Jul 2015 17:28:08
Ed just wandering your opinion on illori, I've not seen him play enough to have an opinion

{Ed002's Note - Decent young player Liverpool tried to sell but over priced him so the interested parties (Real Sociedad, Sunderland, Celtic and Hull) walked away.}

11 Jul 2015 17:28:08
Ed just wandering your opinion on illori, I've not seen him play enough to have an opinion

{Ed001's Note - I like him a lot, he is a ball playing centre half with pace, lots of pace. He is the ideal defender for a high line.}

11 Jul 2015 12:38:39
Sterling included in Tour Squad , read into that what you want , but I reckon he's going nowhere, Man City will not buckle to the £50 mil price tag and quite frankly why should they? he is clearly trouble and maybe they have learned their lessons from when Balo was with them

11 Jul 2015 13:06:37
Is that why they have bid £40 million for him?

11 Jul 2015 13:31:26
Rumour has it Chelsea are making enquiries regarding Sterling.

11 Jul 2015 15:45:05
FSG seem like they will seriously let him rot in the reserves if citeh don't meet the asking price.

{Ed002's Note - Sterling will not be spending two years in the reserves.}

11 Jul 2015 16:52:56
Jim please explain the logic? He's trouble so they'll only play 40 mil? He's on the tour because he's a Liverpool player just like he needs to turn up for training. It's not rocket science.

11 Jul 2015 17:43:23
No they won't because they're not stupid. in this day and age, you can't do that or you and the club you own will be the butt of all the jokes in the media due to the bad PR you'll be getting each day. They will sell and that will be that. They just want the right price for it but should be careful not to be too greedy or well be stuck with him for sure

11 Jul 2015 12:33:06
Jerome sinclair must be going on loan, as he's not on the tour bus.

11 Jul 2015 13:07:15
Hes off to Burnley on loan.

Was never going to get the game time this year for us

Much rather he gets a preseason with Sean and burnley do he has more chance of games thete.

11 Jul 2015 12:15:18
Jerome Sinclair left out of the tour squad. Very bad news

11 Jul 2015 12:20:48
It was only recently that he was included in an article on Sky about which young talent would be the next to burst onto the scene.

11 Jul 2015 12:22:13
No Illori either. Is he injured?

11 Jul 2015 12:34:18
How do you know that? Any other notable omissions?

{Ed008's Note - Ilori is still on holiday he won't return to Liverpool until after the tour I would think.

11 Jul 2015 12:52:25
Illori will get time off due to euros , chill

11 Jul 2015 12:56:42
No Ballotelli

11 Jul 2015 13:02:14
Ilori has time off, but he is in Liverpool, or was. Same goes for Emre Can, Coutinho and Firmino. Balotelli, Borini and our social media expert, Enrique have all been left out. The greedy one has been included though.

11 Jul 2015 11:47:32
What is the difference between a first team development coach and a first team coach?

11 Jul 2015 12:07:09
Is it development?

11 Jul 2015 12:09:26
One of them coaches individual progression and the other takes the 1st team training sessions

11 Jul 2015 13:03:45
Ljinders will be focussing on individual players and their "development".

11 Jul 2015 10:50:11
Talk in the press today is that FSG are prepared to let Sterling rot in the reserves.
Maybe it's the PR machine cranking in to gear but, personally, I believe that JWH would do it if needs be.

11 Jul 2015 11:07:08
It makes little sense to let him "rot in the reserves" though his behavior has been appalling. I think the owners are very strong, we have seen in the past how they will not be persuaded by threats and I think eventually, he will leave this summer after Man City meet the requirements.

11 Jul 2015 11:08:03
Well, Aidy Ward "want the best for his clients".

11 Jul 2015 11:12:56
That would be the first time I'd give these owners any recognition for doing something right, want him gone, but if he did stay, that's exactly what I'd do.

11 Jul 2015 11:29:56
Agreed, the sooner H & G get back the better.

11 Jul 2015 11:43:51
What are you talking about Davey yer raspberry pie.

11 Jul 2015 11:45:37
Rot in the reserves? and then what? LFC will miss out on a lot of money, and in the end it will backfire - Anything above £35M for a decent player with a terrible attitude is a joke. If the people who are responsible for the deal doesn´t make sure it goes through then LFC will be considered a laughingstock, and more debt would be added if we are in for Benteke. To be honest I´m surprised that City even want such a spoiled brat, and I´m even more surprised that they are willing to pay more than £35M. One thing is sure, he needs to be shipped out this summer no matter what. If we have to take a player + cash then fine, as long as Sterling leaves.

11 Jul 2015 11:48:03
Thankfully they aren't stupid enough to let a £50m asset rot on the bench they will sell him and city will pay it

11 Jul 2015 13:34:09
The idea of letting a £40/50 million player "rot in the reserves" and letting his contract run down is plain daft. What if it was your investment? Would you let it go to waste? I think not!

11 Jul 2015 14:35:53
Irish the investment was 500k, they will get much more than this at a tribunal. Hence the willingness to make a statement and let him sit in the 21s for 2 years.

{Ed002's Note - That is simply not the case and Liverpool will not leave him in the reserves for 2 years.}

11 Jul 2015 15:11:36
Where are you getting losing out on £35-40million from, he cost us 500k and his contract is a relatively modest 30k a week, I'd be prepared to let him rot and stall his career at the cost of a few million, we've lost fortunes on players by overpaying then having to sell low just to get rid over the last few years, far more than it would cost to let the little runt rot.

{Ed002's Note - It won't work like that Waro.}

11 Jul 2015 16:07:50
Man City have offered circa £40 million for him. Therefore it would be a loss of £40 million to let him rot. Obviously Qpr would be ecstatic if he sat in the reserves.

{Ed002's Note - If he is sold for £40M Liverpool will get less than £30M. Leaving him in the reserves for two years is not an option.}

11 Jul 2015 16:54:29
I agree ed002

11 Jul 2015 16:56:38
This thread is laughable. As if the club would be prepared to lose money just to punish a player. This is a business not FIFA. The club will look to get as much money as possible and get rid. Simple as that.

Red Rum

{Ed002's Note - Exactly - it needs resolving this summer. He signs a new deal and changes agent, or goes. If that doesn't happen and they try for a few months in the reserves, they know what will happen on December 21, 2015.}

11 Jul 2015 17:22:38
They have offered £40million but the owners want £50million, so if we don't sell and the owner is as good as his word ( if he has indeed said it ,)and he stays then we will lose his initial transfer fee plus the remaining 2 years in wages if he let him rot with the kids, how can we lose what we haven't received I.e. £40million?

11 Jul 2015 17:57:02
Spot on, Essex and Fuzz! Thank God many on here don't make the business decisions at the club because we'd be worse off than we already are. FSG ain't stupid and all they are doing is staking out their position and posturing in the media. It's an American thing. Every man and his dog knows he will be sold and that rotting in the reserves is just plain daft and dumb from a business perspective and the PR distraction and disaster would be unbearable. He'll be sold at the right time and the right price and we can all move afterwards.

11 Jul 2015 18:37:32
You're probably right Ed002.
But who would have predicted how the Suarez situations ended, when the predictable thing would have been for Liverpool to have sold him the season before as was thought.
If it went to a Webster Ruling, it is going to get very messy. I don't know how legal costs are apportioned, and I don't know how Liverpool / FSG would claim "harm" or whatever the term is to claim compensation. But Mr Ward's outburst to the Evening Standard could be brought into it, and all manner of to-ing and fro-ing may take place. Are Webster Rulings final, is there an appeal process to an unhappy party ?

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool would be well aware that if he had been put in to the reserves and kept out of the first team when it is invoked, then they would be on difficult ground when making any significant claim. I still do not expect this to happen, but it would not be out of the question if the circumstances were as proposed by Twitter or wherever this has come from.}

11 Jul 2015 19:51:13
I don't expect it to happen either Ed.
But the Courts are full of the most ridiculous and bitter cases that defy logic.
Unhappy player forced to go on tour, where have we seen that before ?
Just something tells me that it could end up very complicated unless City come up with something special.

11 Jul 2015 09:03:00
Hi eds, just wondering if Jack Dumn will be going on the tour this summer?? Also what's the latest with Jordan Rossiter is he still injured or will he be given a run out on the tour??

Many thanks

Henlow red

{Ed001's Note - I don't know mate sorry.}

11 Jul 2015 09:06:38
Hi eds and reds,
I've seen a lot of posters on here say they'd like skrtel gone and an Ilori and Sakho partnership, but I feel this would be putting massive pressure on a young player for him to be first choice when he's never even played a game for the club, and hasn't really had s proper run of games due to injuries. Maybe he has been promised game time as a third CB like Can was last year? Maybe this role would suit him better until he finds a better understanding with his team mates? Not looking for an argument just giving an opinion. Ps whys everyone so disrespectful towards skrtel?

{Ed002's Note - Skrtel is a Liverpool player and that is how the Liverpool players are treated by many of the supporters.}

11 Jul 2015 09:30:32
Even some of the eds

11 Jul 2015 09:53:26
Couple of the Ed's have been very vocal about why they dislike Skrtel as a player, a lot of readers have decided that they have to see things the exact same way. Skrtel gets far too much hate on this site, certainly our best defender.

11 Jul 2015 10:04:22
Skrtel has been a great servant to the club. Also everytime I go to a match (don't get over often in fairness) the fans on the terrace have great respect and fondness for him. We don't see that on this site.

11 Jul 2015 10:15:48
He drops too deep, but still has a poace in my heart

11 Jul 2015 10:30:19
He drop so deep so does Terry, vidic and Ivanocic.

11 Jul 2015 10:52:39
Sakho, Lovren and Ilori are all head and shoulders above Skittles

11 Jul 2015 12:16:16
Skrtel has been our most consistent defender for the past four seasons - bar none. It pains me that people don't realise this. The only other player who came close to him for consistency was Flanno but sadly he has been plagued by injury recently.

11 Jul 2015 12:22:56
Love the guy but you can't say we've formed a solid CB partnership since Agger left. I reckon we need to give Skrtel/Sakho a proper shot or Lovren/Sakho. I think lllori/Sakho would be interesting but Illori needs to be introduced gradually IMO to build experience and confidence.

11 Jul 2015 12:41:43
Essexred what makes you think Ilori is head and shoulders above skrtel? I'm not a big fan of Skrtels ability but surely you wouldn't put a young player who's never played a game for the club or had a run of games due to injuries in from of him for selection? Maybe once he's bedded in but surely not now. I just don't understand this hate towards him, yeah he's not the best but he's certainly a starter out of the CBs we have. Being as lovren and sakho are both left sided.

11 Jul 2015 18:02:06
Red, Skittles has been here since 2007 and is our worst CB, period. His faults have been well documented and costs us on a daily basis so don't know where people get this idea that he's our most consistent CB. Consistent at being bad? Absolutely!

11 Jul 2015 08:44:17
Let sterling go to city. If he doest wanna play for our club, let him go. I don't wish anything bad on the guy. Just an example of someone badly advised and no loyaly to a club who will offer him a lot more for his development aswell as great pay.
. I can see his game time been limited with city compared to the game time with us, his delvepment will suffer as he is far far from been any sort of the complete player and because of that could it turn out to be another Scott sinclair/ jack Rodwell scenario. Will see him in two or three yrs playing for a Sunderland or Swansea.
Ynwa

11 Jul 2015 10:37:30
As a United fan I quite like Sterling but he is nowhere near the finished article. If City are going to stump up the best part of £45M you should bite their hand off. Clearly his agent is bad news and he is being badly advised but I think going to a local club won't help him either. City have a track record of buying young English players and then leaving them in the reserves and ruining their careers.

11 Jul 2015 06:33:11
If reports are to be believed that Man City have offered 44 Million for Sterling and 120 large a week to Delph then the world has gone utterly insane. There has to be some sort of equilibrium introduced into the equation, football cannot sustain this type of idiocy! What message does this send out that abject mediocrity (Delph) and holding your employers to ransom (Sterling) will be rewarded ten lifetimes of financial reward. Something must be done about this wrecking ball. We are all to blame its not just the Arab's etc. We give Murdoch ridiculous fees in exchange for a bit of high tech gadgetry, live games and Monday Night Football. We give the clubs what they want in match fees etc. We aren't the victims were the sinners! Enough I say and let's take football back!!!! In other news I'm warming to the idea of Benteke. Yes I said it.

11 Jul 2015 07:43:04
Doesn't matter if you rate him or not, Delph was clearly Villas stand out player and has been in good form. He is an England international and approaching his peak years. His cheap buyout is around half his value, so even with those wages City got a deal.

Sterling although I now hate him and find him, his agent and his actions vile, is doing what many do to get moves just a lot more public. Players have done the same to move to us, as recent as last season.

By the time you've read this post City's owner has earned enough to cover both transfers.

{Ed002's Note - Manchester City need to comply with the FFP requirements like everyone else.}

11 Jul 2015 07:53:29
I was right there with you up until you started talking about Benteke - who we're probably going to pay £30m+ for with a £100k+ per week wage thrown in.

11 Jul 2015 08:28:05
Agree with Max. City got a great deal in Delph.

11 Jul 2015 08:38:06
I think £8 mil is about right for delph. I don't get how the lad has got an England cap. I see nothing that makes me think he's in any way ever a decent player.

11 Jul 2015 10:52:58
a lot of people don't get how jordan henderson gets in the england squad,but hey ho! there ya go

11 Jul 2015 11:14:08
Word up did you just make that up? Most England fans I know see him as the best central midfielder England have. They're not even Liverpool fans.

11 Jul 2015 11:50:16
Bobatron, it's true. A lot of people don't see Henderson like we do. They still think of the guy we were trying to flog to Fulham, rather than the player he became.

11 Jul 2015 12:10:38
Hmm guess different circles have different views. Every one I know rates him including Man U, and Everton fans,even the ones that mocked him at first have come around.

11 Jul 2015 06:03:59
Regarding Sinclair

I don't see the club trying to sell him, it's of no benefit to us.

He's only 18 he could have the next 2 seasons on loan and see how he gets on.

11 Jul 2015 02:08:21
RE footballers off field behaviour- I completely agree with everything said and think some of them are incredibly ungrateful. However my point is that if clubs take a lenient stance we can't sit back and impose some code of honour on players. Put off field responsibilities in contractual terms and then we can objectively hold players to account - if a team won the league with x games to go and were too busy celebrating to prepare for their next game would we care?

{Ed001's Note - why can't we expect them to act like professional athletes just because the club do not enforce tough strictures on them? Players on the continent do it without needing the club to nanny them like they are babies, why are British players such imbeciles?}

11 Jul 2015 07:44:40
I don't think players should drink after games but they should go out together for a meal or similar! Especially playing local football it's a good bonding session, you have a laugh about the match, and discuss what went wrong in a light hearted way. Kind of like one of the eds saying about o Driscoll wanting players to think for themselves, this will help them address problems without coaches.

11 Jul 2015 09:12:45
The media gives English players such praise that they are more celebrities than athletes, they get so much money they believe they are better than they are ,that's why England will win nothing

11 Jul 2015 00:43:56
Long time reader.
There are 3 posibilties on the horizon.
Sterling leaves £40m+.
Liverpool football club make a stance and say he goes on our terms or not at all and maybe keep a unhappy player.
Or Raheem backs down and realises the situation he is in and we all come to a amicble agreement.
Either way its a new start for us as a team, personalities in the dressing room instead of guvnors.
Fresh ideas in the back room.
Hopefully to bring players like llori and cann into the fold and reach their potential.
A resolution needs to be met in my eyes within 5 days and a striker signed within 8 days.
Business done and bring on Stoke and let's see if the team assembled has got the pride, determination and passion to smash a voodoo.

11 Jul 2015 07:31:24
It's gone too far with sterling, he needs to go and we need the cash for a striker.

11 Jul 2015 10:03:42
Really Swish?

11 Jul 2015 11:09:43
Well apparently there was an ' amicable agreement ' possibility. I don't see that as an option now was my point.