Liverpool Banter Archive March 11 2014

11 Mar 2014 22:06:15
Good to see rodgers being linked to barca
Of course don't want him to go, but its got to be a good sign. when our top performers are being noticed overseas that can only be good for us

Cone on you reds!

11 Mar 2014 21:26:13
Hey nando if you ever read this stuff. How would you feel if Liverpool did win the league this year then on top of that, Atheletico Madrid won the Spanish league and beat CFC in the Champions League Final. Now that realy would be nails in the coffin. Highly unlikely I know but just imagine that. Atheletico realy do have a great chance at both though

He would be fuming but come on, he left and has been useless since, let it go.

Your post is on the assumption that he is interested in trophies at this point in his career. You have assumed wrong.

Presumably, Atletico have built what they have - at least in part - due to the money they received for Torres. There's no point in thinking about what-ifs, it's just a distraction from what you are actually trying to achieve.

It's also just occurred to me that when you have FT in your side, you are kind of forced into playing to his strengths (strengths that he doesn't really possess any more). A change in style goes a long way sometimes.

Was torres loss of pace due to his knee trouble or the bulk he put on? or was it a confidence issue. as much as I dislike him for leaving on his day he was up there with the best anfield has seen, unplayable at times!

To be fair Athletico Madrid had Falco and Ageuro now Costa since Torres we had Suarez and Sturrdige life goes on no club missed him but I bet he misses the other clubs!!!

12 Mar 2014 14:11:48
I think it was his Injuries Bon. He is still quick now though he just looks scared to sprint. I think he's deliberately bulked up to try and adjust his game and make it less reliant on speed. For all his critics he is still doing well at Chelsea. Not £50m well, but he's a good striker. It's a shame he left though. I would've loved to see him play with Suarez. I'm sure he has no regrets though as he's won the CL and the EL with Chelsea. If he is ever a free agent, I'd love him back in a Fowler Mk II style move for a season or two.

11 Mar 2014 18:18:54
Eds, watching the bundesliga highlights show, is there a particular reason why there is a higher percentage of Asian players in the Bundesliga then any other of the big leagues?
Cheers

{Ed001's Note - they were just willing to take a chance on them and it became a standard move.}

11 Mar 2014 17:02:43
i don't know much about this adrian durham but he is crying in the mail today how unfair it is utd may not make the cl this seaSON and how they should boycott the europa as its a comp for losers, he must be a utd fan but did they not tell us for years the league table dosent lie, all the rest of us have to go into that comp if we don't qualify.The team david moyes can't get in the top4 won the league at a canter last season so all this transational period doesn't cut it for me, I hope they keep him as their manager he is great dosent deliver in the big games mostly dosent play their attack minded game fergie did which imo was their real strength.

{Ed002's Note - AD supports Peterborough United.}

11 Mar 2014 18:08:28
Stupid, ridiculous article.
'Almost unfair'
'Tricky season'
'Transition'
Actually laughable.
The transition excuse didn't work for us and nor will it them. Chelsea change managers frequently and have stayed at the top.
Cannot believe that tripe got published,

I have been telling my mates (utd fans) for about 3-4 years now that there time is over and that Fergie was worth 15-20 pts to them a season. Once he goes it will fall to pieces as the squad is not good enough. Guess what? They all agree with me now lol. The tinted glasses are off now and the gaping holes are appearing.AD is an person anyway regardless of who he supports.

He complains how the English FA didn't let their teams compete in Europe in the 50s because they had an air of superiority towards the rest of the continent. And then he suggests United do the same by rejecting a chance to play in Europe.
How can a national newspaper publish drivel like that?
Unbelievable

S.G.L.

I sort of agree with AD.a team of utds stature should be in the CL rather than some obscure romanian team ect that can't win a group game.we all want to watch the best, don't we! .for the good of the CL utd should be in it.just my opinion

12 Mar 2014 11:03:29
This person is surely taking the Michael with his article. There really could not be somebody so stupid allowed to spout this nonsense could there?

Oh sorry it's the mail isn't it. In all honesty this guy is a disgrace and gives all the many good sports journalists something to worry about if he gets paid for that sh1t.

On a brighter note I can't begin to explain how proud I am of Brendan and the boys this season. I actually feel like I've grown an extra inch. In height of course!

Enjoy the remainder of the season my friends and thanks again to all the Eds for their continued excellence. That even includes Ed02 :-)

I listen to a lot & Durham presents a regular show from 4pm till 7pm, as one of the eds mentioned he's a Posh fan. I find him something of an opinionated bully. Having said that, to give this a bit of balance, he also wrote a recent article for The Daily Fail online giving ten reasons why it would be great if Liverpool quailified for the Champions League.

I used to follow boxing they reported whilst I was a follower:

Manfredo won the tv series the contender(sergio Mora)

Lennox Leis retired undefeated (2 losses)

Roberto Duran said no mas (referee said it)


Bernard Hopkins had travelled several times for fights abroad (once in 50)

At the end of the day United have no more right to be in the CL than anyone else.

If they end up in the Thursday cup then so be it.

Don't remember anyone saying the sane thing when we didn't qualify.

10 Mar 2014 22:48:55
Eds has it ever been brought up that player and manager fines should be done as a percentage of weeks wages or how many weeks wages etc. Makes it much more even throughout the levels surely?. don't know how to apply this to club fines possibly as revenue in a month but that could lead to far to o many complications. was just wondering if this was is or will ever be an option?

{Ed002's Note - A club can fine a player a maximum of two weeks wages.}

Was more so talking about fa fines for things like gambling etc. Probably should have clarified better. I just got to thinking after listening to how cricketers got fined a percentage of their match day fees for a recent incident and I assume this is how all fines are done in cricket (obviously theirs probably exceptions) but I just personally feel this is a much better and smarter way of fining players rather than fining someone like Suarez 20k and then fining a young player like sterling 20k obviously it would effect sterling more.

Players above are just an example obviously as they have a big gap in terms of wages.

{Ed002's Note - It depends on the offence.}

11 Mar 2014 15:27:42
Eds. How do you have so much detailed football knowledge? Sarcastic and non sarcastic answer please!

{Ed007's Note - I keep them right about things.}

11 Mar 2014 13:43:18
I really really hope we don't get beet on sunday. I would settle for a draw but a win would be amazing and a big help towards a top 4 finish.

Ynwa.

Come on u red men!

So you would take a draw against a poor Manchester United team

I have mates who're United fans. I want us to beat them so I could laugh at their faces, well that's just me though.

Dezyboy. I want to win this game and every game but we have to be realistic and if we can't win then a draw is next best thing?!.

If we do happen to get beet then i'm sure we will get all the negative posts back on here blaming individual players and BR for his tactics?

Spuds play Ars, so my veiw being if we draw its a point gained.

U get me?

Utd will up their game for this one. Remember all those times when Utd actually had a better team/manager than us and we still used to give them a good game? Same situation now dezyboy, poor or not, it will be a fast and furious game and I wouldn't mind a draw.

True lads but they are there for the taken upwards and onwards don't look back only forward this season is different I can smell it

I hope we don't get beet too, don't mind bit of carrot and cabbage though, much nicer

11 Mar 2014 13:37:18
Hi eds and reds I was just wondering ed1. what do you thing of aunt bessie's roasties and will they come down in price? And could you see them at Liverpool?cheers mate

{Ed001's Note - I saw them once in a Farmfoods in the Strand if that counts? The price seems to be going up though rather than down, sorry.}

Forget over processed, over priced, over packaged tosh! Do it the LFC way, buy a bag of potatoes and make your own masterpiece! YNWA ;)

11 Mar 2014 00:58:18
hello eds,

how are you feeling about the appointment of clattenburg for the man u-Liverpool game? do you think he will have a good-decent performance based on his past performances or are we in for some drama come game day?

{Ed001's Note - I don't think it matters which ref, they are all useless.}

Sorry ed but I think Michael oliver is a good referee.he is the Only referee who uses prudence and doesn't go in with a prejudice mind

{Ed001's Note - and yet he makes mistake after mistake. Sorry but that is not a good referee in my book.}

Ed is there a specific reason why we dnt have foreign ref's in this country?

{Ed001's Note - do you know what, I don't actually know. I know when there are match fixing issues a country will often bring in foreign refs to try and calm the corruption fears. I don't know why top refs aren't acquired by the league though, it would make sense for the league to try and sign the top refs from around the world. Especially in view of the shortage of qualified refs, and complete lack of any decent refs.}

The FA should get an exchange programme running. Send a few of ours out on a temp basis and welcome a few in on a temp basis. Keep swapping and changing every now and again and with different country's.
At the very least it will give us a few extra talking points, but also it could give the refs experience in another league and maybe even improve and standardise the levels of refereeing here and in Europe.

Week back everyone said we had web for this game why thechange edd do u no? cheers

{Ed002's Note - There has been no change.}

Who would you say are the best refs in the Prem Ed001?

{Ed001's Note - I honestly don't rate any of them. Not one fills me with any confidence at all. Webb stands out as the worst, the rest are just slightly less useless.}

Clattenberg seems ok

11 Mar 2014 06:55:36
Good morning Eds. Not sure if I said something wrong but was asking about the serb midfielder Markovic? Apparantly we scouted him recently through head scout Barry Hunter?

Also simular with french striker Lacazette?

{Ed001's Note - sorry mate, I was leaving it until the morning in the hope someone would get back to me with more info. Unfortunately he is away and not able to provide anything more on it. As for Lacazette, I don't know a lot about him, other than he is being talked up as the next best thing.}

Know worries mate.appreciate you trying to find out for me. didn't think it was something I said as i'm generally trying hard to be selective on my posts now lol.

All good.keep up the good work

{Ed001's Note - if Ed002 is around, he can usually answer immediately as all the info he has is placed in a database. I used to store everything in files, but it became too difficult to keep track of and sort through, so I gave up on that. Ed002 has a team of trained serfs to do those kind of menial tasks for him, when they are not fixing him cocktails and fanning him with peacock feathers.}

10 Mar 2014 23:17:41
Can any of the edds could answer please,
Why do so many Brazilian players move to clubs in Ukraine or Russia? Is it because of money, gametime or something completely different such as work permits? Thanks

{Ed001's Note - because there are many players there looking to move abroad each year and there is money there to pay them well.}

11 Mar 2014 09:55:31
All the talk is (quite rightly) of us making the champions league. For me - as a fan, this is all about being able to watch Suarez and co. on the biggest stage on Tuesday/wednesday nights against the Madrids and the Milans etc. Then there's the added ability of being hopefully able to attract the better players. The stuff of dreams.
What do the money men think? How much will it benefit us on the financial side? I know this is a bit of a broad question but put in context I read this morning that United landed a £600million kit deal with somebody. (600MILLION!). And then you have City and Chelsea's billions. I mean, Arsenal have struggled to effectively compete and they've been qualifying every single year for the Champions League. What will it mean on the business/financial side of things if we qualify? Again apologies for such a broad question.

It can only be beneficial making the CL, without going in-depth.

PS, I don't think either of the Milan teams are going to be playing CL.

Really? Well, you know what I mean. Against the Barcaleonas and Manchester Uniteds doh! They won't be the either will they. Silly me.

It's clearly not going to hurt the financial situation. The prize money for 12/13 was:


Playoffs: €2, 100,000
Base fee for group stage: €8, 600,000
Group match victory: €1,000,000
Group match draw: €500,000
Round of 16: €3, 500,000
Quarter-finals: €3, 900,000
Semi-finals: €4, 900,000
Losing finalist: €6, 500,000
Winning the Final: €10, 500,000

Plus the involved clubs get a percentage of the TV rights/market pool and this is generally more than the prize winnings (or can be). Even if we do fairly poorly it'll add at least €20M+ to the clubs revenue I would think. Juventus got around €60M last CL and Bayern €55M, as examples.

I find the Champions League boring, to be honest. A lot of shadow-boxing and playacting, as someone else posted.

But if we make lots of money from it - fine with me.