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11 May 2013 23:28:31
Hi guys, long time fan of the page, I was just wondering with Callum mc-mannaman having a cracking season dispite Wigan facing relegation, the lads got talent, fitting into the homegrown part as well as being scouse, do you think either Liverpool or anyone will try to move for him? Cheers guys {Ed052's Note - there have been plenty of posts and opinions on him if you read down the banter}
11 May 2013 23:16:09
I know this season isn't yet over but already i'm excited to see what next season brings. I think with 3 of the top teams bringing in new managers this could be beneficial to ourselves to push on and sneak into the top4 once again.
New managers bring in new ideas and new systems, new players, new training methods which might disrupt the current crop of players at those teams. Look at what happened at the start of the season for us, rodgers came in and it took a while for the team to get used to his way of playing and style.
Obviously whoever comes into man city will have money to burn but that doesn't guarantee instant sucess (although it does help!) maybe a new foriegn boss will come in and maybe his english isn't that good so might find it hard to get his message across to the players.
If mourinho goes back to chelsea then he'll have cash to spend but there's a lot of players there now who weren't there during his first spell and some players he might not fancy anyway (moses for example), and then moyes going to Manchester United interests me - I do feel that he might be fergie's puppet for a season or two as fergie will stil be pulling some strings behind the scenes maybe over potantial transfers, but it'll be interesting to see what moyes does with the team, even though they won the league easily we all know that their current crop of players is nowhere near the standard set by prev united teams, ashley young/cleverly/wellbeck/valencia etc are all decent player but not (in my eyes) united players, and with ferdinand and evra not getting any younger and vidic injured recently their situation in being champions and bringing in a new manager mirrors potentially what happened to Liverpool back when kenny first left and souness took over. and we all know what happened there.
Then there's us, Liverpool, after taking a while to see what rodgers wanted the players to do, we can see light at the end of tunnel and what he wants to, in his second season the players already there will be used to things and the way he wants us to play and that I feel gives us a slight advantage over the teams with new managers coming in.
dont forget spurs are in a similar situation to us with a new manager at the start of the season and already we've seen the fruits of their labours as they're pushing to get into top4 this season so with a second season under AVB I think they could do well too.
And not forgetting arsenal in what I think will be wengers last year as manager there, by all accounts they might have a decent budget to play with in the summer and they might be good shout for the league.
Im not saying we'll def get into top4 next season and i'm not saying that we wont, all i'm saying is with the changes happening to the big 3 it could cause a gap which we (and spurs and arsenal) could take advantage of and this could be the chance we need to get a foothold back upto the top. I do feel that this gives us the best oppurtunity to anyway with the changes going on at the other clubs. and if we get a decent start under our belts and with some new signings in the right areas we could be a force to be with reckoned with.
whatever happens I think next season could be one of the best yet with 6-7 top teams really pushing for the top4.
if you've read this far then kudos as i've gone on a bit!
mike c
11 May 2013 23:41:06
I did read it. I do agree, although It's a bit sad really. Having to rely in others to falter.
Why is it sad relying on others faltering? Manchester United have done it for years
James
But everyone says we have no money a conundrum I can't figure out
Chelsea an man city will not be affected by new managers, if anything it would make them stronger because any new manager would be given another huge transfer kitty for the players they want!
Chelsea & Eiteh won't falter both are well oiled machines
And a chnge of Mgr. for both clubs will only bring renewed vigour to the teams especially Citeh Mancini ain't a great Manager and they will replace him with a better manager
Its a pity but I would like to see them call the KING!
Tired of BR nonsense and his own self importance!
Re pronin - if we have to rely on others faltering then so be it, we're set to finish about 30, yes 30 points behind the Manchester United this season. I remember seeing the banner at anfield in 93/94 I think saying "come back when you've won 18" aimed at man utd, well they've come back and surpassed our challenge, and I would take any opportunity to knock them "off their effing perch", if it means them faltering then that's fine by me, if it means the teams faltering then so be it. I just want Liverpool to be back at the top again and I'd be more than happy to take any advantage that comes our way, however small and hopeful!
Mike c
Bang on Mike C, agree 100%
11 May 2013 22:59:33
Eder �lvarez Balanta (River Plate - Colombia)
Sakho (from PSG - if he wants to come)
Is there any chance we can get any of the two above?
If the answer is NO as it usually is :), my question would be?
Why don't we go for players who would cost us 10 million now than later when they would cost more than 20 million or would very much won't want to come to us?
Why is this reluctance to recruit straight from South America?
I agree that Coates hasn't turned out too well but when Kenny brought him in, our full backs provided much more cover to CB than they currently do and the incoming CBs are expected to have pace which Coates doesn't have.
But still he isn't bad and has this street smartness which players from Uruguay are blessed with. But since Brendan Rodgers doesn't fancy him, who are we to complain?.
Particularly Balanta who hails from Colombia and plays for River Plate. {Ed052's Note - the reason its a no is becuase we haven't scouted then, haven't enquired and have no interest in them. Why not? Becuase we obviously dont think they would be suitable signings.}
We have NO interest in them?
River Plate are a big club and would that mean that if Falcao would be available then we wouldn't want him today because we happened to be not interested at some stage?
But the fact remains he would cost any team more than 40 million today where as he was available for around 10-15 million when he was playing for River Plate.
Falcao
James Rodriguez
Jackson Martinez
Balanda (now)
these are all very good players and I think we should scout more in South America and look for some upcoming talent especially in countries like Peru, Colombia and Chile these days.
Argentina and Brazil have always been good exporters for Europe but I feel the progress the above countries are making is fantastic. {Ed002's Note - There has been extensive efforts made in South America by Liverpool but there are complexities over moves due to language, work permits, culture etc..}
11 May 2013 22:56:14
People on here are complaining about others talking about signing young McManaman. Although I, like most, disagree with these posts, there are also some generalising them to 'MOTD fever' posts about Ince and Benteke. These two are genuine players.
11 May 2013 22:37:35
Hope we sign Abdennour! Quality, Physical, great tackler and passer, and quick. what more do we need? plus he'll be cheap
He's slow. very slow
GuvTOB
He isn't slow at all!
11 May 2013 22:28:50
Apparently there is some scouser called mcmanaman who can play a bit, couldn't be possible could it;-)
MOTD fever eds, sign him BR
Daniellambretta
11 May 2013 22:10:16
Right, McManaman had a very good game. As some folks have rightly pointed out more then a bit wasteful at times. An exciting young player no doubt but get a grip some of yous, going on like he's the great white hope who'll turn us into title contenders single handly. We've got some cracking young wide players ourselves, not just Ibe, but Jack Dunn can play wide, and the Swede Peterson who is a real talent. As as he played today it's one game ffsake. Oh theirs Suso will be a world beater once he gets a bit stronger and gains a yard or two of pace which will happen. Personally along with Sterling we've all the young talented wide players we need. In my opinion if we're going to get a new wide player it has to be someone who's a top echelon player who's going to have the nous technically and tactically to be able to slot straight into our system.
Lfc youngters are overated due to the expectations we are so desperate for the academy to be a success
The academy and younger teams are a success that is why they are rated.
Kopping a feel
11 May 2013 17:47:36
It will be difficult for BR to pickthe midfield next season we have lucas, stevie, allen and a rejuvinated hendo. it will be interesting as coutinho is far better playing a central role. so a winger is must. we really lack in that deptt. someone who can take players on and chip in with few goals. BR played hendo left which didn't work out and downing helping GJ and kept baines quiet but he goes missing in games. I don't understand why we bought assaidi but BR probably thinks he is not good enough and that well might be the case with allen and borini TBF injuries have not helped them. also our lack of winger prmpted BR to play back 3 with GJ and JE pushing on. I think we really miss kuyt's goals from right wing and must have kept him as a viable option on the bench. ED001 can u tell which wingers are being looked at?
LIVERBIRD {Ed001's Note - I don't know of any wingers being looked at.}
Ince?
To play Coutinho at 10, we need a stronger, more imposing and quicker DM than Lucas to play with Stevie. I actually think Fellaini would be perfect for us and he wants to play in the DM role not further fwd where Moyes always played him.
11 May 2013 22:06:18
I've been watching Mcmanaman for a few months and been impressed. However what he done today in a cup final was extraordinary! We should definitely have a look. Before today he used to always remind me of that Spanish Kid munian.
12 May 2013 03:57:35
Oh hindsight is a wonderful thing. Don't know what you'd been to compare him to Munain before today, kept that one quiet pal. Well he must have eclipsed him after running City ragged, who does he remind you of now? Neymar? A young Ribery? Do tell I'm dying to know mate?
Jonson
Munian is top quality he's in a differnt league. MM has played well in his last 3 games that's it! Befor that he couldn't even get into wigans team!
Munian is quite overrated imo.
11 May 2013 22:03:58
If we buy McManaman it will be more money down the drain. Seriously, how many times do we have to buy one of these players playing in the bottom teams only to find out they can't adjust to a champions league chasing side. Carroll, Allen, Downing, Henderson, Konchesky. has that tactic ever worked out well for us, not to mention the fact we'll probably end up paying way over the odds.
We need to aim higher please no more Benteke, McManaman, Ince or any of these other small time players, they will not get us champions league.
Carl
Couldnt agree more
11 May 2013 21:30:19
Mcmanaman this Mcmanaman that he's played well today doesn't mean he's Liverpool quality does it?
Charlie Adam used to boss Blackpool, Andy Carroll was the same at Newcastle the term one season wonders springs to mind.
Mcmanaman is just the same good player but "average" and that's not good enough for Liverpool, we've had the last 5yrs of average players and stagnated, some fans have short memories.
BR has moved the team forward this season from last year and with the possibility of some more exciting players of the same quality as BR bought in January Coutinho and Sturridge will put us in the best shape we have been in since 2008.
Curled1
11 May 2013 21:15:52
How much would Jackson Martinez cost if we were to show interest?
Jackson Martinez cost Porto 7 millions and we wer front runner 4 his signing, but brendon desided on buyin borini 4. 10. 5, just look wot a ceap deal brendon did 4 us, its another Mata to downing, brendon its not good enought 4 Lfc, he is crap manager no plan b, c, wot can we expect from some1 on managmen inmaturity. Sorry mate if we stick wif brendon listen 2 me Aston villa and new castle or Everton will get top 4 before us, I can't have a faith in brendon, sorry, just look all our target non of them r world class player, and in 20 millions rafa used 2 get us a world class player.
Who is the world class player that rafa bought for 20 mil? aquilani? lol
12 May 2013 14:45:17
How can u say brendan is crap some interesting facts for u we have scored more goals this season, kept more clean sheets, and are higher in the league than what we finished last season and as for the Mata to downing comment downing was bought under the king not brendan and Martinez was linked when the king was in charge so lay of BR and show your support rather than keep being critical of how he's running LFC.
ACHILLES.
11 May 2013 21:03:38
Ed's is there any chance we could buy Benteke McManaman and anyone else who played well today, FFS! What is wrong with you people, yet again nuggets on here making Liverpool supporters look like delusional clowns!
STOP IT PLEASE STOP IT!
Waro
No wonder your not liked on here waro
Why attack people all the time?
I thought you weren't posting anymore?
Spot on. you could see it coming before the game was even over!
Embarrassing, so much so that I had to stop scanning todays page.
And now I am logging off!
I think waro is talkin sense. Its like people have never watched a match b4. And when they do they talk bout these type of players.
11 May 2013 22:59:09
Lampard anyone? Maybe Hazard, two great assists!
Don't normally agree with Waro, but in this instince couldn't agree more.
Couldn't agree more Waro. Its ridiculous really!
11 May 2013 20:57:33
Has it really got to that point where genuine Liverpool fans are posting about signing mcmanaman? FML
JOZLFC
Benteke has been great all season not just yesterday
A little rough round the edges at times but he's only 22 and will improve even more which should frighten all other english teams of course Benteke would massively improve LFC
He's a rough Gem
11 May 2013 20:23:57
Hey eds, is another striker a possibility even if suarez stays, as I understand carroll will be sold. So are we looking for a new striker or is that not a priority. Lima brazilia striker from portugese league has impresed me is there any interest in him from us or other clubs? Thanks good website guys {Ed052's Note - Lima no. A 3rd/4th striker is very unlikely but not impossible}
11 May 2013 19:45:11
Congratulations to Wigan. played really well. nice way for Martinez to sign off
Got a feeling he's off to malaga with pellegrini to city
11 May 2013 20:10:10
ed justreading your thoughts on mcmannaman never seen him play till today but for his first real season looks a real little gem is it true everton let him go? could be the new scouser we need to replace carra me if I had the choice would go for him over ince defo and we do need a rw how much would he be cheers
mike
11 May 2013 21:44:17
efc let him go when he was 16 and to think wigans youth scout has been told to start pushing through more of there own area players you would think they would know better having baines and Macca come through in the recent months they have let a lot of Liverpool born kids go some youth developers idea the head scout is not happy at all told my sister so when they let her son go got an offer from blackpool so not all bad everyone sorry went on a bit thought it of interest to some people
My bad recent years
11 May 2013 20:02:18
Hi, just want to say that, Christian Eriksen, Henrikh Mkhitaryan, Dejan Lovren or Toby Alderweireld, Kevin Gameiro, Jay Rodriguez or Andreas Weimann & Keisuke Honda or Yohan Cabaye will sign for Liverpool FC this summer. Players Leaving will be Joe Allen, Martin Skrtel, Stewart Downing, Sebastian Coates, Oussamma Assaidi, Andy Carroll, Danny Wilson, Dani Pacheco and maybe Fabio Borini. Keep up the great work guys & thanks for the information. LFC13
Lookalike a complete new team then. You can but dream, there is no way BR will sell his love child
Allen/borini will not leave br needs to defend his position with fsg. sahin was already a problem he can't have anymore
11 May 2013 19:37:11
Eds fellow reds, we were lucky that fsg didn't sign Martinez last year. because if that was us today at wembley with the fa cup, they would have had to pay him of tomorrow
11 May 2013 19:03:17
Hi ed002 not really Liverpool related, but what happened to Sergio Canales, because a long time a go, we were after him when Benitez was in charge. I know Real Madrid bought him, but what has happened to him.
Si {Ed002's Note - He is playing for Valencia.}
Thanks Ed.
Si
11 May 2013 19:01:22
This callum mcmanaman is one confident lad really impressed with him
Has he any relation to former player steve mcmanaman?
Basy
2nd cousin far removed. he's a scouser though, not sure what part of Liverpool he's from though. anyone know?
I believe they are cousins
He's from Huyton same part as Gerrard
He's from Huyton and a bitter
Rainhill and his cousins son
When I was a kid Rainhill was on the cusp of being a wool
11 May 2013 19:29:52
Rogers go and buy callum mcmanaman! Young fantastic english talent. His name suits a Liverpool shirt! What you reckon eds? {Ed052's Note - I have given my thought. He needs to improve his final ball.
a) down the wing, he needs to get chalk on his boots and get good balls in.
b) through the middle, he needs to take opportunities to score more. not try to rebeat the same player 3 times.
Between Ince and him, I would go for the cheaper option.
Callum needs to keep this form up, and try to improve in the final third. He has pace, determination and teamwork going in his favour though.}
Ed052 do you know what your on about? Seriously {Ed052's Note - why, what do you disagree with. Even today he was very wasteful}
I agree with ed, he beat his man every time but how many decent balls did he put in? And he wasted two very good opportunities in front of goal. Looks like he could be a good player in a few years though if he keeps at it.
He was quality! You must expect so much from players if you think he was wasteful. He is a lot better than some of the players we have. He ran city ragged and produced a lot of quality so I haven't a clue what your watching
11 May 2013 19:20:26
As a wiganer I want to wish wigan congratulations on their fa cup win, always route for the underdog. So you see ladies and gents, money can't buy everything!
YNWA
11 May 2013 19:06:13
Not Liverpool related but come on wigan. {Ed052's Note - YEY!!}
11 May 2013 19:04:20
Hi Ed's
Anyone shown interest in Callum Macmmanaman?
He hasn't just played well today but last two months he's looked Wigan's main threat with Kone. Could be a great impact sub and then first team player {Ed052's Note - There have been a couple of threads on him. Macmanaman needs to keep consistent now, and work on finishing and final product.}
11 May 2013 19:02:46
Lloyd jones will travel down with the first team squad to fulham tomorrow. It will be great experience for the young lad.
11 May 2013 18:57:16
If Wigan go down I would have a good look at McMannaman instead of Ince {Ed052's Note - Ince has the better end product at this point. It would have to be down to price}
I've only seen him play once before (a good chance it was against us!), but he looks a special talent to me. As I've not seen Ince play much either, it's a bit stupid to say, but I'd take McManaman. {Ed052's Note - We will have to see if Wigan go down. I can see a lower league team take him then. But then again, watch him against Arsenal on Tuesday, and he may be poor and show his inexperience. Its hard to compare the two, hence why I would sign the cheaper option.}
But he is a Scouser {Ed052's Note - Lets sign him then :P He did however play for Everton. (I guess he left so he could win stuff haha}
He will be brilliant for us ed on the single fact he supports everton fowler/rush/owen/mcmanaman
joking of course
We should not spoil th career of these kids.
I fell that for their own betterment they should play in teams where they are wanted rather than in squads where they are wanted.
Our squad players should mostly come from academy or should be game changers.
For me he is still not a consistent game changer.
11 May 2013 18:04:54
do you know what is going to happened with Jordan ibe next season and ngoo. and do you see us going in for Williams of crystal palace or/and ince of Blackpool thanks {Ed052's Note - I answered this in full earlier on the banter page.}
11 May 2013 18:04:40
McManaman plzzz {Ed052's Note - If that isn't MOTD fever, I don't know what is...}
11 May 2013 17:53:37
Hi Eds,
Is Callum Mcmanaman rated highly at all?
Thanks {Ed052's Note - There was another little thread that was started before on him, but:
He has only been in the first team for a couple of months, so it is hard to judge any player in that time, especially a young player who could either do badly e.g. Morgan, or very well, e.g. Sterling. He is a very skilful player, very quick and a hard worker. He can look to do too much with the ball (excitement maybe) and doesn't have that Suarez-esque quality to be a ball hog but still score. He also needs to add a few more goals to his game. However, he does look a good player, so just needs to keep playing, get his head down, work on his final ball, shot etc. and he can be a very good player.}
11 May 2013 19:22:05
U can't compare morgan to this lad he's mcmanaman has experience with blackpool were he did well he's a vey good young player who could be something special if he carries on like today
Morgan is a good reserve player who won't make it
Basy {Ed052's Note - A wasn't comparing them, just saying Morgan played a few matches and did poorly, but its not a true reflection on a player. They need to continue playing well and be consistent.}
11 May 2013 17:44:05
Eds, can one of you realistically see us getting in the top 4 next season with our current squad, 25m in transfer funds and a youth policy, compared to the teams above?
JOZLFC {Ed052's Note - Yes}
No chance. {Ed052's Note - Why not?}
So who are the other three teams in this league then ed? {Ed052's Note - What do you mean, which other 3 teams would get top 4? I would say - City, Utd and Chelsea. Then us in 4th. We aren't far off Spurs who always drop off at the end, and Arsenal start slowly, so if we get a few points up on them early, and finish off well ourselves, then we can get there next season, with very few changes. Start the season again now and I could see us coming 4th}
I think we have the best chance to get back into the top four than we have had for a while. Obviously I hope that United don't perform - Fergie is a canny old bat with an ego the size of a small planet, so he has wedged old Moysey into his spot so people will say how well Fergie did, as Moyes can't get the results he did. Always make sure the guy who follows you isn't as good - it makes you look even better! Arsenal seem a bit out of sorts, so hopefully will continue into next season. Chelsea will be strong if Mourinho goes (would be my bet to win next year), and Spurs never seem to quite make it. If we buy well in the summer and get off to a good start, I think we could be fighting for 3rd or 4th.
Ed052, what players would you personally want/buy for 25m if you were in that position to get us back in the top 4?
JOZLFC {Ed052's Note - I think you have to look to get one, if not two prime CB's. I think you are then looking at a midfielder, one who is more defensively minded. That gets us top 4 in my opinion. But perhaps, with money left over, a winger, and one more striker, a 4th striker, e.g. Kone (only spend 3 or 4 million). However, being a bit more fantasy, the first things I would do would be to sell Johnson and Reina, who are really holding us back defensively. Downing can never do any attacking because of Johnson!!}
11 May 2013 18:44:57
When was the last time Arsenal missed top4 haha, between I love ed52 always fantastic when comes to joke,
Eg when we bought borini, he said borini can score 25+ goals a season and he is the best poacher he has seen haha loving it! {Ed052's Note - I think over the past few season Arsenal have got closer and closer to slipping out of the top 4. It isn't long before they do. And I am still confident Borini can score 25 a season. It wont be next season, because we don't have Europe. But if he plays 50 games, I can see him scoring 20-25. His finish against Newcastle re-cemented his quality in front of goal.}
Im assuming your not talking about money generated from selling carroll/skrtel etc but 25m for 3 players to come into the first team and get us into top 4 is not going to happen mate. borini is very average in my opinion and he would be my 4th, johnson is terrible at defending, reina is irreplacable in terms of budget and you have a point with downing, but johnson has no effect on downings vision and being able to beat a man
JOZLFC {Ed052's Note - I was taking player sales into it. So roughly 50m for 3/4. I really like Borini, who has the skill and finishing ability to score a lot. Johnson doesn't effect Downing's vision, but Downing never gets to show it because he is always covering for Johnson - who can neither defend nor attack very well anymore}
11 May 2013 19:30:58
Sry ed52 no offence but borini will never be 25+ goal scorer a season, are you trying to compare him with Suarez or falcao etc, wenger is like fergie the only difference is fergie wins trophy with avearage teams and wenger manages top4 with average team, he has been doing this for ages and we have been dreaming for ages that will finish above them to get champions league spot, even ed1 says it will take time to achieve top4. {Ed052's Note - it will take time to get into the top 4, but I think we can get there next year. And Torres has got 20+ this year, Borini can. I'm not saying 25 in the league, I mean 25 in all comps i.e. 50 games in cups and Prem. He has to play through the middle though, otherwise he is not good enough, i.e. to the left of the front three}
With the right buys we can get into the top 4 next season
Still not a massive amount in todays market though, Borini is frustrating, his movement is there but lacks confidence, saying that with injury etc he hasn't had much time. If we do add in midfield I think the knock on effect will push downing out, coutinho can play out wide with sturridge and suarez. In my opinion assaidi has shown glimpses he is better than downing.
All in all I can see where your coming from, I also think we are 3-4 players away from challenging for top 4. the only difference is. I think we need a better calibre of players.
JOZLFC
Ed. I really doubt your football knowledge by these comments! {Ed052's Note - why? Over the course of the season we are closer to the top 4 than last year. Since January we are even closer. One good transfer window pushes us even closer, which will put us well in the running for top 4}
Last three years spurs have finished 4th 5th and 4th! Not really dropping off is it? Such stupid comments at times
11 May 2013 17:39:23
What do you make of this comment?
PSV boss, Dick Advocaat said:
"For PSV it would be good that he stays, but for Strootman, it's better for him to leave. "
"He is a fantastic player because he knows exactly where his qualities lie"
"The guy would be great at Liverpool or Tottenham, where he could take another step forward. "
11 May 2013 17:26:42
Has there been any interest shown in callum mcmanaman {Ed052's Note - MOTD Fever, only 15 minutes into the match!! Not that I had heard, perhaps if Wigan are relegated. He has only just broken into their team.}
To be fair he's been going well for a while {Ed052's Note - He has, but he has only been in the first team for a couple of months. Sterling did well for about 5, then it caught up with him. He needs to play more, consistently, and add a few more goals to his game before he will perhaps be looked ta by bigger clubs IMO}
He's four years older than sterling
GuvTOB {Ed052's Note - but they've played similar amounts in the first team so I compared them. He needs to keep it up.}
I noticed sterling had his best games for Liverpool on the right side sunderland away and at home when he scored the lob when put through by suarez
11 May 2013 16:50:22
do you know what is going to happened with Jordan ibe next season and ngoo. and do you see us going in for Williams of crystal palace or/and ince Blackpool thanks eds {Ed052's Note - I can see Ibe floating between reserves and first team, like Sterling this year (but perhaps playing less).
I think there is a chance Ngoo could leave, perhaps to Celtic who have had him watched a couple of times I believe. But equally, he may stay.
Williams was close to signing for Utd in January, but didn't leave because he wanted to play. Even if CP are not promoted this season, I can see him staying for at least one more season. Also, CP are asking a lot of money for him.
We still have an interest in Ince, but he wants to play, so I cannot see him deciding to rejoin us.}
11 May 2013 16:48:53
our problem has really been the second string players for quite a while now. we have a decent first team but our bench is really weak just one player with PL experience (skrtel) rest are kids who need time to get ready. so we see a same team every week and this makes us predictable in the way we break teams down ( everton, whu, reading, etc). I see people here saying we sell 5-6 players and buy replacements will it work? I think so we must buy 3-4 quality players for different areas, ease them into first team, let youth go on a season long loan where they will be starting almost every weak then after a year sell a few of the first team who underperform and bring in youth to blood the team. this will be ideal for stability, more options and success. yes we need to sell a few but not all at once.
LIVERBIRD
11 May 2013 16:26:20
Any news on signing Ben Mills from Chester FC. Has had a good season, and could add back up to squad.
11 May 2013 16:20:08
do you know what is going to happened with Jordan ibe next season and ngoo. and do you see us going in for Williams of crystal palace or/and ince Blackpool thanks
11 May 2013 15:58:48
Obviously if we had 25million to spend we wouldn't be able to get an awful lot. Think that would rule out the 10 million asking price for ashley williams fortunately.
I would be happy if we could maybe get Erikson, Aldreweireld and maybe one other player. Still not sure that would be enough for top 4 but certainly there would be quality within the side
Danny
Why alderweireld? Spurs dropped their interest because he didn't suite their system! According to them he lacks speed and concentration! Man city looked at the player they deemed him too slow! He is now fishing for clubs!
11 May 2013 15:58:32
Look at the teams above us.
Look at the managers they have or will have.
Look at the players they have or will have.
Then consider what Liverpool has.
7th or 8th again next season. Without doubt.
Catch 22
Chin up lad the class is half full
red rrab
How do you figure that?
You can argue that Everton are going to drop down from 6th as Moyes has them playing at a greater level than they actually are (similar to SlurAlex at Utd).
City are supposedly sacking Mancini and Utd have lost their extra influence.
Chelski will have a new manager.
It's only going to be Arsenal, Spurs and us with a stable management set-up.
My prediction for next season is Everton dropping below 6th.
Arsenal and City contesting the league (only if Mancini stays). Chelsea finishing 3rd.
Spurs, Utd and us contesting the last of the top 4 places.
Either way, we will finish above where we finish this season.
Christ almighty doom and gloom already, not even finished this season yet get a life.
I'm sorry but with a few tweaks and additions there is no reason we can't finish 4th. It will be difficult of course but we have some very good players. With coutinho and sturridge here from the start, should mean more goals and hopefully more victory's.
Danny
You will know by the end of November.
There is a mile of difference between realistic analysis and wishful thinking.
Catch 22
Hope you don't sit next to me next season I can see a spilt bovril on the way
11 May 2013 15:57:11
I think it's really funny how many "fans" on here know who we are buying and for how much! even players who have committed themselves to other clubs i. e. Roma and Aideweldered (sorry about spelling) you make yourselves look really stupid guys, then there are the people who say who we are buying and selling and for what price! ha ha it must be satisfying to be InThe Know!
11 May 2013 15:44:18
Hello Eds,
are we interested in Arda Turan for the summer as he is likely to be available?
He would really be an ideal buy as he can play RW as well as CAM. {Ed052's Note - I answered this yesterday. We're not, and couldn't afford him as we have other priorities}
11 May 2013 15:41:55
Stefan de Vrij
Carlos Zambrano
Cheikh M'Bengue
Kurt Zouma
Ashley Williams
Mamadou Sakho
Kjaer
Pearce
Amorebieta
Diakhite
Mirin
Alderweireld
Centre backs off the top of my head that I can think of that we have been linked with.
Personally I would love Coloccini from Newcastle, but he's too old. He would be perfect though, has great leadership qualities, right footed, he's not slow and he's strong
Out of the list, Pearce, Zambrano and de Vrij seem viable. Any thoughts, eds? As for Fabricio, he is aging, and wants to move back to Argentina. He had some strong years, but I don't think he would do us better than Skrtel.
Drigan {Ed002's Note - Pearce perhaps. Zambrano is a player who has been looked at by Liverpool but I am not aware at this time whether they have made any approach to Frankfurt. A move would certainly not be out of the question. Feyenoord's Stefan de Vrij was the subject of interest from Arsenal and Newcastle last summer and a number of clubs have taken a look at the player this season including Spartak Moscow, Chelsea, Manchester United and Liverpool. I understand that Liverpool spoke with Feyenoord about the availability of the De Vrij and a suggested figure was well above what they would consider paying and no offer was made, although interest remains. Chelsea and Manchester United both have interest in other centre backs and seem unlikely to consider the player further. Advice to the player from somebody very well respected in the game is to stay where he is until the right move comes along and to remember he is club captain where he is and should not move anywhere to find his opportunities of playing are reduced and he is sitting on the bench.}
11 May 2013 15:15:54
Hey Macca,
What sales do you think we will do? And what sales would you want to do?
Hard one for you m8! Many thanks would like to hear Ed001 who they would let go?
YNWA lfc linc
11 May 2013 14:57:40
With no World Cup, European Championships, or Premier League football on this summer. what the hell is a man to do?
Its going to be a long summer, especially is we get our transfers in early!
Any tips to keep the wife from finding out and giving me loads of crap jobs to do around the house?
Tour de France
Confederations cup in july will be gud
5 gold stars
Giro d'Italia at the moment as well. Though reds fan Wiggo is having some bad luck. Another British winner in the TT today.
11 May 2013 16:36:47
ASHES
There should be a cycling rumours page
Think there is the u-21 euro? not sure
11 May 2013 14:50:58
hi edds a few lfc fan pages on twitter and facebook have quoted Toby Alderweireld positive things about Liverpool. could you possible quote me some of the stuff he has said about roma and spurs or who ever else is interested. it does seem like he wants to come to us from what his said. thank you {Ed002's Note - Try Twitter.}
11 May 2013 14:49:09
£4-5m for Coates plus the savings from carra (an absolute ledg) wages should enable us to sign a decent centre half without burning a hole in our transfer budget. For me the next priority is a monster central midfielder who can ensure we don't get bullied by some of the physical teams. Is Wanyama any good? A cheaper alternative could be Diame. The icing on the cake would be Erikssen or Tello. BR's signings last summer have not yet proved their worth but to be fair to him he did not have his scouts in place. His Jan signings were spot on. If he gets the signings right this summer with a couple of additions who can make meaningful contributions to the first 11, it would be great. Reality Red
11 May 2013 14:45:07
Alderweild & Erikson for approximately £22m
Mo
11 May 2013 14:08:38
Alright red's who do you think the most underrated player in the league is at the minute? I think that it's shuan maloney personally. Any interest in him ed's from anyone?
Would love to hear your views.
I would watch more football if I was you mate.
Shaun Maloney is a fine player. {Ed052's Note - he really does impress he. Floats between the lines. Nothing fancy but gets it wide or for the strikere to run onto}
I know obviously shaun maloney has injury problems and age against him but I think he can be a decent player for a mid table club certainly.
He has a decent end product, great from the dead ball, he has that low center of mass and a few tricks in his locker.
derryred (origional poster)
11 May 2013 14:06:56
Are lfc scouts definitely going to be at the Toulouse game tomorrow? If so, are they only going to be watching Abdennour? We've been linked with the left back M'Bengue before and the goalkeeper would be good back up, he's ono 21.
RedKopite
Lets hope we are also watching Etinne Capoue {Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath about Capoue moving to Liverpool.}
11 May 2013 14:02:24
. there goes the PL's chance of the uefa fair play this year!
11 May 2013 13:01:57
We really need to sign this benteke
He is the new drogba but with a better 1st touch
Basy
Match day fever! Give it a rest!
NS
I agree. Sell Carroll and get him. Suarez Benteke Sturridge
Coutinho
11 May 2013 12:45:45
Benteke for £25m?
More like 15 million.
11 May 2013 12:29:31
Next seasons home kit - Smart, quite like it
Third kit - meh
Away kit - BURN IT BEFORE REPRODUCES
Was it you outside of Melwood burning a shirt when Torres left? If it was, I'd like to tell you what a pleb you are, if not, I send my sincerest apologies;-)
DaveyBootle
To be honest it beats the black away kit, that was just horible
Gold with black flashes on it was horrible
Wasn't me Davey!
11 May 2013 12:22:59
If we get Erikson then that would be great but do we need him? Coutinhio is pure magic and now we see why we went for Henderson. After a poor start the guy has become brilliant for us, Talented energetic and commited with goals in him aswell, he will only get better and stronger. We need a world class CB
We still need one more midfield
Its like barca saying ""we have messi, do we need iniesta?!
5 gold stars
Sunderland fan here. Was really happy to sell Henderson to you for that money, but now agree with you - England starter for the next decade. Good buy.
He will replace downing who doesn't give the team enough goals
11 May 2013 12:15:58
Why are people so obsessed with kits, the players can wear suits and towels for all I care as long as they win games, like someone already said man u won the league with tea towels on and help from fan favourite howard webb! (Last bits Only a joke before I'm called bitter)
Lil Red
11 May 2013 11:41:16
What would we all think if we could make these 4 signings this summer
Cb - Alberto Botia
Cb, Lb - Aymen Abdennour
Am, Lw, Rw - Christian Eriksen
Cm, Am, St - Henrikh Mkhitaryan
Mick D
I would think all 4 players you mentioned would be great addition to our group of players. They would be outstanding acquisitions if we were to go ahead and bring them to Liverpool. They possess the right attributes, attitude and desire to propel this club where it needs to be. Jesus I am turning into Rodgers. The Cricket
Hand on my heart! Bigger and better clubs can take their pick and can't say or do much about it?
Bit of a risk apart from erikson need to be more wise with our dealings proven quality who can come in and make an instant impact no bedding in period like hendo downing these type of player are in the headlights first year with how big the club is my choice would be
erikson/mertens/
gustavo/inler/alonso
for cb would spend the most money on one player rather on two the way utd did with rio a player who is pivotal to the team as a top goalscorer would be
11 May 2013 11:23:08
Rotten away kit, rotten manager, rotten next season.
A hat trick.
Tchai
Man u wore a t-towel and won the league
Grow up.
MR EM
Rotten fan
Give BR another season before calling him rotten.
11 May 2013 09:18:50
Eds can you give me a heads up on Alderwield not sure what he's like and Youtube videos for defenders are rubbish! {Ed052's Note - I will log it as a profile request}
11 May 2013 10:08:18
If rumours are true this season we should sell:
Reina (Rumoured value - £8m) (Should ask for more)
Skrtel (Rumoured value - £8m)
Downing (Rumoured value - £12m)
Spearing (Rumoured value - £4m)
Shelvey (Rumoured value - £7m)
Carroll (Rumoured value - £15m)
Borini (Rumoured value - £6m)
Thats a total of £60m plus the rumoured £25m off the board = £85m
We should try going for:
Marc-Andr� ter Stegen (Rumoured value - £10m)
De Vrij (Rumoured value - £8m)
Toby Alderweireld (Rumoured value - £8m)
Henrik Mkhitaryan (Rumoured value - £18m)
Hatem Ben Arfa (Rumoured value - £10m)
Xabi Alonso (Rumoured value - £10m) or Lars Bender (Rumoured value - £12m)
Christian Eriksen - (Rumoured value - £15m)
Remy (Rumoured value - £8m)
Total = £87m or £89m with Lars Bender (The board might give the extra £2m or £4m)
7 players out and 8 players in (What ever happens this summer I hope we get the best players available to the club and don't spend to much on one player like we did with Carroll. Y. N. W. A
(This looks like a good team, and these suggestions are based on rumours in the media nothing more)
Fo you really think your being relaistic mate? {Ed019's Note -
It's not about being realistic, It's just a note that if rumours are to be believed those are the likeliest players that will be brought in. If been realistic, I think we could get maybe 4 or 5 of the players I suggested, but depends on who other clubs go for. For example if Chelsea went for Alonso it would drive up his price. I think we should just wait until the end of August anyway and see who we get in.
How is wonderland?
11 May 2013 10:01:03
I'd be chuffed with
McCarthy.
Alderweireld / Williams.
Ilori.
Wanyama.
Eriksen.
Tello.
Agree one hundred percent!!
spot on
Add benteke to that and all good, tony c
Id be happy with just erikson /wanyama/alderweireld
11 May 2013 09:55:13
Outs
Carra ret
Coates £5m
Carroll £13m
Assiaidi £3m
total £21m + £15m from owners
Ins
N'Kolou £12m
Pearce Free
Eriksen £18m
Sinclair £5m
I'd rather we signed Siem de Jong rather than McCarthy don't get the fuss
11 May 2013 15:16:32
Macca said he expects the owners to give 25m plus player sales
11 May 2013 09:52:53
Hi eds or Macca what do you think will happen with wilson he seems to play well on loan and atvyouth level could he stay or do you think he's off? Also young italian cdm luca morra looks a good player any interest from lfc?
11 May 2013 09:45:37
Rooney, Torres and Alonso will do fine for me, nah erm hoping we sign some decent players for decent prices and try shift so of these average players out
11 May 2013 09:40:23
Rodgers apparently replaced Skrtle with Carra because he wanted a leader and organiser, but he wants Martin to stay. And do what Brendan? Work hard in training and sit on the bench and cover for the the next leader and organiser you bring in to replace Carra. Just grow a pair and say I worked with him for the first 4 mths of the season and he's wasn't doing what I wanted, so I dropped him. If an Acceptable offer comes in he can go.
If he done that then he eould lower skrtels valuation, use the thing between your ears mate and stop bashing br for everything
He's already lowered his valuation by dropping him you person. Coming out and saying he's got no organisation and leadership qualities is really going to push his price up isn't it.
11 May 2013 09:37:30
Eds fellow reds, don't expect to much activatiy in the summer as BR has said that pepe, Martin skrt and Luis are all staying at the club so the only players out Carroll and shelvey
11 May 2013 09:28:19
Well, the time as come to reflect on how we have done this season and from a season ticket holders point of view, I am content to sit and see how we progress.
I don't think Brendan's purchases last summer performed as he expected them too. But to be fair Allen started well, with the busy summer he had and the shoulder injury he was carrying, the standard he set at the beginning dropped. Borini has also suffered in the fitness stakes and I am well prepared to give the lad a chance before calling him useless. Assaidi hasn't shown the manager enough in training to warrant selection and to be fair the Manager his paid to make them decisions.
January brought us Coutinho and Sturridge for 20 million and if we can get two more players of that standard, for that money, every transfer window, we will soon be up in the top 4, believe me.
He his right, when he says we need more game changers and we also need replacements in the back line, to play the style of football he wants us to adopt. I don't believe he will replace the whole back 4 in one window, as I believe he will give the likes of Wisdom, Kelly and even Sama opportunities, to prove they're fit enough, or good enough. Left back and right centre back are areas I think we need to look for.
I think Agger needs cover and he needs a partner.
Aymen Abdennour would be the perfect choice to bring in at Left back, because he's equally effective in the centre back position. so he can cover Agger.
Jack Robinson should stay out on loan for another yr and get more experience, I still think he can make it, but he's not at the level we require just yet.
Enrique will be an ideal squad player, for me he's not consistent enough to be given the left back role full time.
Now, who do we bring in to play alongside Agger? Botia and Douglas, have been linked and I personally would take them both. Coates, and Skrtle look to be heading out and Carra will soon play his final game for us, so we do need squad replacements in that area.
Game changers, Jeremy Menez, Cristian Tello, Cristian Erikson, Kevin Gameiro, Jackson Martinez. I would be made up with any 2 of them. instead of paying Carroll and Downing.
Okay we're do I start okay I can see we're your coming from however I think you need to think about left back because Enrique doesn't matter what you say is quality he is in the top 5 in the prem and to bring in some players from abroad ( who generally cannot defend that we'll) is stupid he is strong fast, can tackle and can pass what more would you want? As for these game changers you've been listening to much to rumours the only two game changers there are probably Erikson and tello the rest are not game changes Grameiro isn't a game changer your looking to much at average players and our team need to get rid of them average players
The thing with Gameiro and Menez they are similar to Coutinho and Sturridge in the way that they are not being played because they are average as you put it, but because the manager prefers Lucas m and Ibrahimovic. Gameiro and Menez are top class players. Who want first team football and are good enough for Lfc.
11 May 2013 09:09:01
Eds a few internet sites are reporting that Toby Alderweireld has said he has no interest in joining M. Cty, or Spurs but would join Liverpool as he said we are on the up, I thought he had agreed to join Roma?
He has no interest in joining city and spurs because they have already told him they are not interested in him! They were! But for some time now they have turned their attentions else where!
11 May 2013 08:45:42
Morning is it true that buck now wants to keep skerts?JON96
11 May 2013 08:14:02
Hi Eds. Any ideas why the South Africa trip has been cancelled?
BaldyRed {Ed002's Note - I didn't know it had been, but as I explained it would not have been a first team squad in any case.}
I heard it clashes with a south African cup final, so was stopped by the authorities.
Lil Red
11 May 2013 08:10:21
I am 99% certain Xabi Alonso will be playing for Liverpool come August. I would be extremely surprised if Gerrard doesn't pick him for his testimonial!
11 May 2013 07:56:57
just uploaded a pic of Coutinho in one of those awfull away kits looks like there real. gutted
11 May 2013 07:33:08
We need money to compete with the top 4, FSG don't have the money to compete with the top 4.
Without that money the good players we have will look to leave (not that we have many) for clubs in CL and chances to win trophies.
So IMO we need to sell Suarez now along with others before they jump ship when we will nodoubt finish roughly the same next season, if we wait it will cost us time in terms of developing the side. Get £40m for him plus try and sell downing, skirts, reina to raise possibly £70m in total.
With the £70m look for more purchases on the lines of Sturidge and Coutinio who have high technical ability who have failed at there current large clubs. There is no point in thinking we can sign players in demand from other sides as we simply won't compete. Also I would hate to see large amounts of money get wasted on average players like Williams because their British.
I think we can upset a few teams next season but I cannot see us getting near the top 4 in any way. Chelsea, City, Man U, TOT, Arsenal will continue to attract better players and spend more money than we have so you would have to think we will continue to drop further behind.
Why bother getting up in the morning? Has there been a more pessimistic post on here? Someone give this poster a cuddle, please.
Yep even though FSG have spent the second most in recent season FSG don't have enough money. Mate this post is so shameful and embarrassing. Clueless person
11 May 2013 07:06:43
If in the summer we did happen to buy Alderweild, Tello, De Vrij and maybe Remy it would be a fairly good summer.
Bring Coady Yesil and Ibe up to the first team, also Ngoo might be worth a shot next year. Could be ideal on the bench, is Eriksen worth halting the progress of Teixeria who looks like a star in the making. Love to hear everyone's views.
They are babies mate, yes let them play in the early cup rounds, but we need a solid start to the season, and that means the strongest experienced eleven players we have, no time to experiment, leave that to preseason friendlys.
11 May 2013 06:32:41
Moyes' record away at United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal-in his 11 yrs everton regime (away).
played-45,
won - 0,
drawn- 18
lost - 27
-a total of just 18 points gained from a possible 135.
lolzzzz even newcastel or wigan have manged to win away at lest 1or 2 of this fixtures.
The ginger Guardiola
11 May 2013 03:58:14
Just spoken to an acquaintance who supports Manchester United, he'd be a friend but I find it's best not to confuse the lines. :) Anywho, he's gutted beyond belief. He's annoyed that United aren't going for a tried and tested big club manager with at least a cup success or two. I think Moyes is a very good manager and I think it's great to see another British manager getting a chance at a top British club, much like Rodgers has been given at our beloved Liverpool.
I think the pressure on Moyes will be immense but I think that comes with walking in Ferguson's shoes, which will be no easy task and at a club the size of United on a World scale makes it a doubly tough job. Just think of the rubbish Rodgers has typed about him by the impatient fans amongst ourselves following on the back of a somewhat disappointing league performance by our own legendary Kenny Dalglish, never mind the great cups runs because in comparison for the context i'm trying to show Ferguson has left as a League winner and that's what United fans expect and if not that then maybe more.
So I think Moyes has no easy task on his hands, the squad isn't as youthful as it once was, Ferdinand, Evra, Vidic (when fit) RVP, Carrick and obviously Scholes and Giggs are all into their 30's so Moyes will need to rebuild or at least structure his soon to be squad into what he thinks will work best for the club. I think the Manchester United job is safe from becoming like the Chelsea one because there is no crazy Russian Billionaire sulking and stropping, that being typed Roman looks to have swalloed his misplaced pride and has seemingly got ''the spesh'' Mourinho looking likely to come back. If it happens, then buckle up Dorothy and with the self styled Pelligrini looking likely to take the job from Mancini, I think Everton may be getting the raw deal after a busy week. United seemingly have good advisers, which I don't think FSG rightly had in place when they came in and opened their wallets on ''British talent'' so freely, when with hindsight (although many myself included were finding Carroll's and Downing's transfer fee's impossible to justify at the time) that maybe the Spanish or German market may have been better for the value for what was spent, has anyone a flux capacitor?
Whatever happens the chess game that is football management continues ever evolving to suit the ever changing environment. One things for sure ladies and gentlemen, the ticket prices will go up. :)
BCDI.
First of all I know this is a Liverpool site but just a few points, fergie I believe has realised that Manchester United are in decline they were the best of a bad bunch this year and any other year would not have won the league, he has an aging team and he knew it and got out instead of rebuilding his team, since the power changed with city and their money he can't get his bullying way but I do believe he will be on moyes shoulder for 2 years so moyes will take the flak when it all go, s wrong to me that's a coward anyway rant over DEANO
11 May 2013 01:54:05
Liverpool will move on Jay Spearing, Dani Pacheco, Danny Wilson, Andy Carroll, Jonjo Shelvey, Martin Skrtel, Sebastian Coates and Oussama Assaildi as Rodgers looks to raise some cash to re-shape his squad and with Carragher retiring centre half is his 1st priority. Rodgers is hoping to sign Adil Rami for around £12m and Douglas on a free transfer. Christian Eriksen is also a prime target and Ajax want a fee in the region of £15m but Liverpool are hoping to get him for £2-3m cheaper. Loic Remy is also a budget option like Douglas, he was bought by QPR in January for £8m but he has a relegation clause which will allow him to go for £6m. Wanyama, Ince and ter-Stegen remain long-term targets but who knows when or if they will arrive. IN- Douglas-free, Christian Eriksen-£12.5m, Adil Rami-£12m, Loic Remy-£6m
11 May 2013 00:21:54
What on earth? Just seen the new away and third kits. What an utter dogs dinner. the all black kit was cool, these look like a vomiting competition in a paint factory. Terrible. Someone needs to give Warrior a good talking to because these kits are absurd. I've bought lots of away shirts because they were usually great; not these ones for sure.
Where have you seen them they haven't been released on the official site yet
One wonders what the likes of Tommy Smith would think of such comments.
Or Bill Shankly.
BJH YNWA
Stop whinging about the kits. If you don't like it don't buy it simple really.
Yeah but we also have to WATCH them
11 May 2013 12:38:48
Get a grip man are you some sort of Gok Wan? Go watch a fashion show or something if that kinda thing bothers you that much. bet you despair at the colour clashes of some nike boots, horrified at some of the haircuts and hide your eyes at some of the tattoos the players have now. Grow up. Its got an LFC badge so show some respect.
Have you looked in the mirror lately?
Our nickname is the reds - figure it out kid
The Iron and Shanks had proper kits, not something that looks like an Asda shower curtain. Sorry, but they suck, and does it matter, yes it does. We should have the coolest kits not the most embarrassing.