Liverpool Banter Archive April 12 2015

 

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12 Apr 2015 20:11:55
We have had plenty of fun watching the demise of man utd in the last 2 years since fergie left, however here we are today 11 points behind them.

Van Gaal has been there less than 12 months, joined even though they were not in the champions league. Signed players all be it expensively who left from teams playing in the champions league.

Yes i think he has been very lucky, de gea saving them in many games, and yes fellaini now the main man. Di maria and shaw don't play much, striker van persise been injured most of the season. Season b4, they lost vidic, giggs, scholes, ferdinand, evra, yes all older but they left as champions.

The comparison in our situation and there's as our rivals should help to show Brenden Rogers has used every excuse in the book, spending 216 million in 3 years the same amount man utd has spent in 2 seasons. They lost 6 players and hard as it is to say the most successful manager of all time in Ferguson.

So what is our excuse for us falling behind Man utd again, at time when rogers is 3 years into his contact, spent 216 million and looks like finishing 6th this season.

Excuse:What players have we lost? suarez and its been the excuse all season, or injury prone sturridge.

Excuse: Blame, did he sign him or didn't he sign him balotelli, fine, but who was the alternative that was coming if not him, was there anyone else. It could of been 15million lambert and borini otherwise, where would we be if that had happened.

Excuse: The training ground has been spoke about as the opposition has been peaking over the fence. To see how we defend corners and how we can't get the corners past the first defender.

Excuse: can't get the best players if not in the champions league, we signed suarez

Excuse; The transfer committee bought them

The excuses have gone on and on and on, the only way to end it is to end rogers tenure. As fans we keep the faith and support our club, but this guys had his chance and he has blown it.

Fans worried about who will take his place? who was brenden rogers when he took over?.the man that brought tika taka football, what happened to that?, what happened to players being bought to fit the system?

The owners are not daft they have thrown a lot of money at the club and the ground is finally having development work to increase the capacity. They have heard it and seen it all, end of the season they will make the change.

All the talk is de boer, and klopp, but let's open out eyes there's 100s of clubs out there and plenty of managers with much bigger pedigree than rogers. let's find one and get them to manage in our eyes the biggest club in the world.

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12 Apr 2015 22:16:07
Just regurgitating the same old story. Post so answers to these questions being raised. Show some thought about what can be done, what is expected to be done etc. it's all hearsay but a lot more interesting then reading the same posts that were here months ago

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12 Apr 2015 22:21:26
We sold Suarez who scored 30+ goals last season and signed Balotelli. Blame whoever you want but this season has been hampered by a lack of goals.

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12 Apr 2015 22:22:10
You can talk the talk, let's get Ayre out!

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13 Apr 2015 05:44:11
our problem is if we win 10 games in a row we start to believe we are the best team in the universe and put a blind eye to all the problems we have. if united are lucky because de-gea has kept them in games, we were million times luckier because we don't even have a keeper who can save us games . the defense has to be sorted out and that is pending for three years. and that is just disgusting considering we are not short in numbers in defense , we also have a few good quality defenders in our squad. have literally splurged around 60 million in reinstating our defense and yet in best case scenario we have a mickey mouse defense. our defense is easier to open than a pint of beer!

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13 Apr 2015 14:07:36
How do you open a pint of beer?

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13 Apr 2015 22:22:33
And we are still laughing at your demise and it is still going on

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12 Apr 2015 19:45:34
What's you guys views on top 4 after we beat City ? If Liverpool were to win all 7 remaining games taking 21 points (big ask with Chelsea away but possible) that would leave us needing 10 points from our remaining 6 games to guarantee top 4. We still have Chelsea, Arsenal and Everton but we are playing well right now.

Do you feel catching City is now your best chance? Although they have the easier fixtures?

Or do you think today's win was the nail in the coffin? I know I feel a lot better about CL football after today's win. Massive 3 points for us.

I think you will comfortably beat Newcastle tomorrow, 3-0.

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12 Apr 2015 21:17:24
It's not like it's football theses days it's a money game and considering how poor the league is even with the money spent Its hardly worth watching.

Ps can't you tell van Gail to get a decent hair cut, I've never in my life seen anything like it.

And another thing it will be a sad day when Wayne Rooney is England highest ever goal scorer. To think a player as poor as that is nearly England's highest goal scorer is enough to make me sick.

Have a good week at work :)

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12 Apr 2015 22:23:29
Said ages ago when City were second and we were on our run. Why always fourth? At that time we were looking good and I said we could overtake City, they'll slip again maybe more then once. As per most replies were lol why not win the league etc.

Well if we had taken a few more points as it looked expected at that, we would be a victory against Newcastle on Monday, away from leapfrogging City. But I'm not so sure now.

As poor as City are I think they'll do just enough, tomorrow is massive for us. We should thump Newcastle they're woeful. But we don't do pressure well at the moment.

I liked the look of our shape against Blackburn, but we hardly destroy them. So I don't think we'll get the points we need against better prem opposition.

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12 Apr 2015 22:38:54
We blew top four by doing so badly in the first half of the season. We had a great run and almost got back into the fray, but the final nail in our coffin was your lot beating us the other week.
The silver lining is that the game that blew us out of the reckoning will also be the final nail in rodgers tenure as well, so at least we can make a fresh start next season.
Its impossible to imagine the owners being satisfied with his performance this season, when van gaal has shown that you can get back into the top four in your first season with a new team, and koeman has shown that you can mount a top four challenge in your first season with a new club, even after half the clubs best players were sold off just before you arrived.
I just don't think lfc can afford the time and the financial damage of allowing rodgers to fully develop his competence in PL management.

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12 Apr 2015 23:42:36
You'll do Newcastle 3-0 as you say they really are terrible mate

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13 Apr 2015 08:10:37
They were terrible in the first half of the season and we didn't even show up

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12 Apr 2015 18:03:43
So UTD have won, still does make our chances of top 4 btter.

City have 4 home games remaining out of their 6 games and all winnable.

Southampton ahead of us too at this stage. Newcastle not going to be pushovers .

UTD have were totally and utterly rubbish under Van Gall many weeks ago but seems like he has sorted out things when it matters most.

Now we have to get past City to finish 4th. Absolute joke cause they are in terrible form but still with 7 poinyts ahead.

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12 Apr 2015 18:38:43
Can't see us getting in top 4 for a while now, the truth of it is city took our place in top 4. We only did it last year because of Suarez. Our competitors are Spurs basically. It will be the same next year.

It's as Harry redknapp said on goals on Sunday the league is predictable we all can generally guess where teams will finish. We are not in the same league as the top 4. United have bounced back after one bad year and have one of the strongest spending powers in world football, how do we compete with that? We had one chance last summer to get it right and we well and truly ballsed it up.

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12 Apr 2015 18:40:48
Will they drop 4 points in the next 6 games? We have to hope so, but we still have to beat our remaining opponents, including Chelsea away! You never know though.

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12 Apr 2015 18:46:07
No chance of catching City, their run in is easy for them.

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12 Apr 2015 19:13:29
I was hoping for a City win because Utd have a worse schedule than City but Utd didn`t have to break a sweat today because City after ten mins, were just plain aweful. They played worse than they did vs us and that is saying something. They are aweful right now BUT I don`t see them falling off tho.

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12 Apr 2015 19:39:33
Won't get fourth, but still think people are overly pessimistic about what we can achieve. My be luck with how other teams performed but despite making hash of our transfers, missing our main striker and starting terribly managed to put together a run of form to compete for fourth.

Have a great squad (provided we keep them) that is young plus some great youth players to come through. Sterling, sturridge, lucas, henderson, moreno, ibe, coutinho, sakho, texeira, flanno, rossiter, ilori, wisdom, can,, Markovic, and lallana are all quality players or great youngsters with great potential to improve.

Don't think BR is the man to do it but if we get the right manager and 2-3 good signings (striker, cm, and keeper) can easily compete with any team. But will need to make sure we get signings right and won't be easy as our of CL but saying it can't be done is nonsense. Athletico winning the league or dortmund winning the league are just as if not more unlikely but done.

Won't be easy as financial are pretty far out, but in terms of quality of player don't think we are as far behind as everyone thinks (except chelsea Tbf).

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12 Apr 2015 16:46:39
For the love of god can you all please shut up about sterling and get on with enjoying the football, stop endorsing in this completely media fabricated 'crisis' and bashing him for putting talks on hold.

I doubt he cares about your discontempt and neither do we. Stop plaguing this page with your mindless discussions and abuse and think of something constructive or interesting to say.

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12 Apr 2015 18:45:42
Sorry anon, I'll run all my future posts by you in case they offend you mate,

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12 Apr 2015 19:15:23
Been saying that for weeks YET many are falling for this BS regardless of how many times Ed01 has said that he will most likely sign a new deal

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12 Apr 2015 19:59:39
It's not that anyone's posts offends anyone,
It's just people are constantly repeating themselves with no clue about what they are on about. People need to shut up about sterling now, because football is a business. He's either going to move for a decent amount of money or he will be offered a ridiculous amount of money anyway. And in my view a player like him doesn't deserve your constant attention because he will never be a fan favourite or show any loyalties. That is usually the case with poor people that made it to the top and made it to the top somewhere other than where they are from. Everything is for themselves and they forget what they once where.

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12 Apr 2015 20:19:16
For a clubs who's entire beliefs are nobody in red walks alone no matter what. The kid puts his contract negotiations on hold and he's hung out to dry by 90% of the fans,, a little bit stupid to say the least

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13 Apr 2015 18:01:36
Its not about that WelshBoyDave.

I would never object to criticism of any sort or negativity or controvery at all on this page, i'm the biggest supporter of free speech you will find.

The point i'm making is that people, the ones who ed002 would refer to 'knuckle dragging oafs', are simply using this page to vent their petty rage over the sterling incident as tgey clearly having nothing better to do with their lives.

This is a banter page. Its silly. The crisis is media fabricated and sterlings interview revealed literally NOTHING we didn't already know, it was simpky an unauthorised interview that ruffled a few feathers as a result, and the situation has been explained, dealt with, and covered for months now even before the interview.

Nobody cares if you have what can only be described as an erection of pure rage. Go and sit in the corner and cry elsewhere. Leave the adults to talk while you all have a tantrum like a whining child that won't take no for an answer.

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12 Apr 2015 15:34:06
I posted on here a few weeks ago my thoughts that Sterling, although obviously a good player and will improve, is not a top top player and IMO never will be as he lacks composure and has poor end product and that if you got offered £45m you show snap their hands off. That post got shot to piece by most of you.

Yet two weeks later here we are and all I'm reading on this page is post after post of how Raheem isn't as good as people think, and most are saying you should sell for £30m as you have better players like Ibe to come in.

Funny how a contract dispute can suddenly change peoples minds on his ability isn't it.

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12 Apr 2015 16:57:51
Was Cristiano Ronaldo, David Silva and Sergio Agüero etc as good at 20 years old as they are now at their current ages? Plain and simple NO.

Sterling is 20 years old for FFS just like C. Ronaldo was learning his trade at that age. C. Ronaldo only started performing at a consistent level much later in his career so to moan about Sterling's composure at the age of 20 quite honestly is moronic.

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12 Apr 2015 17:44:38
The contract dispute has been going on for months. Obviously you don't keep up with Liverpool rumours. As have been the people who want him gone, not just over the last few weeks.

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12 Apr 2015 18:06:02
Think your missing the point pal. Point is there's tons of posts on here claiming sterling should be sold. 2 weeks ago he was untouchable

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12 Apr 2015 18:07:04
Plus I just said he will improve so your making youself look a fool maxlfc

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12 Apr 2015 18:14:23
Funny how my United mates opinions of Rooney change everytime his contract is running low haha

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12 Apr 2015 18:46:29
Stand buddy, search function. Raheem was not untouchable here 2 weeks ago, it just isn't true mate.

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12 Apr 2015 19:18:19
Maxlfc, Did Ronaldo insist on more then £100k p/w at 20? Or Aguero or David Silva?

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12 Apr 2015 19:18:58
SU is right. Raheem is young and like those players, is still learning the game and selling him because he refuses to do what you think is right and when you think he should do it as well as falling for the media BS around a non-story IMO,is just stupid. Let the process play out and move from there instead people just making up reasons why they think he should be sold.

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12 Apr 2015 19:47:17
My bad then mate I must of missed posts previously.
For what it's worth I think he will sign a new contract anyway mate. Henderson too. Think Brenda will go though

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12 Apr 2015 19:58:20
football fans are fickle!? Arsenal fans wanted wenger out a few months ago now he is a genius, before he renewed his contract rooney was an over-rated waste of talent, a month go LVG was a dinosaur who didn't know what he was doing, last year rodgers was the best young manager etc etc.

Situations change and opinions change. Sterling is a great young talent and would like us to keep him, BUT have to look at our current team and situation. Would love to keep sterling but if we got a £40m or more offer and he hasn't signed a contract can easily argue it's worth taking it as have a lot of good players in his position and would probably be better for the team to get a top striker in.

Though do find it funny don't remember many United fans posting on here until their recent change in fortune.

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12 Apr 2015 21:33:21
Like the banter with rival fans mate it's what it's all about isn't it? Your welcome on our pages whoever you have an opinion

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12 Apr 2015 14:01:50
I understand supporting our players, but nobody cut Suarez and slack when he was being a tit so why does Sterling get away with it?
He's an adult, ok his advisors may not be helping but he's a grown up and makes his own decisions.
He has very much created his own bed and now must lie in it,
He could still have turned down a deal without coming out in the papers and showing us a massive disrespect with his comments.
Basically no sympathy, live and die by the sword Raheem.

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12 Apr 2015 16:17:16
Cut Suarez slack ? Really??

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12 Apr 2015 16:19:06
Ridiculous post comparing the trouble and embarrassment Saurez caused Liverpool to Sterling is like comparing driving after 25 pints having 4 bald tyres and no insurance to having a break light out.
Neither is right but there a million miles apart in degrees of wrong.

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12 Apr 2015 17:13:21
Maybe Rodgers should have kept his mouth shut about Sterling being offered an incredible deal and then things would not have been blown out of proportion by the media? Then Rodgers has a dig at Sterling's representatives after it being Rodgers who started started this fiasco?

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12 Apr 2015 17:47:50
Max so to you Sterling has done nothing wrong even though most people in the know and ex players have said doing the interview was disrespecting liverpool football club or i bet you think it was down to his agent for the interview and what sterling said , he is the one who said he turned down a huge pay rise , what has he done to earn such an amount at his age , i don't think the other players you have mentioned was earning over a £100 grand a week at 20 , i maybe wrong as i don't know what they were earning but they never carried on like sterling has done that's why they are class acts and sterling is not its that simple really , if the club thought he was worth more than a £100 grand i'm sure they would have offered him more than that , or should they break their wage structure and open the flood gates for other players to demand more than they are worth and put the club in financial trouble again just because of a greedy player who thinks he is better than he really is

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12 Apr 2015 18:44:28
I'm far from suggesting Suarez was due any slack Benny, far from it, but they were/are both want away and both are/have showing us a disrespect.
Also, yes I agree BR fcuked up with his comments, but essentially this whole debacle is down to Raheem, and he should be treated the same as other players who have done this as a result. If Suarez wasn't bigger than the club( and he absolutely wasn't) why are people here pandering and making excuse after excuse for Sterling?

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12 Apr 2015 18:54:50
Offering Sterling £100k a month is not going to hinder LFC. Rodgers opening his mouth about it has made the likes of Henderson having a hissy fit too.

Rodgers said Sterling was offered an incredible deal and what did Henderson do? Did he not reject a new offer too? Bravo Rodgers, Bravo.

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12 Apr 2015 19:24:20
Max is right. BR and SG are the MAIN reasons we are here. Had they just shut their gobs and deflected the questions, the media would have had nothing to feed on. Also, Ed01 has said the stalling has NOTHING to do with money so people mentioning the fact that it is related to money is false. Nobody will break the wage structure to re-sign Raheem n even he knows that so that is a false argument and to finish, ANYBODY coparing a young naive Sterling to a talnted YET complete moron like LS should automatically lose the argument for mentioning such a horrendous comparison.

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12 Apr 2015 18:17:27
Suarez was old enough to know better he also makes sterling look like a saint.

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12 Apr 2015 21:45:58
Sterling hasn't caused the club murderous trouble, not that i care for the actions of either really, and the only reason he carried out that interview was to set the record straight with all the media harrassment he was getting and speculation surrounding his situation prior. I don't care and i don't blame him one bit. Its rodgers fault as he can't keep his mouth shut either.

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12 Apr 2015 20:02:06
Again Ed002 has stated on numerous occassions that Sterlings contract issue is fundamentally not to do with money yet it is the only thing people post about.

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12 Apr 2015 13:09:29
Eds, fellow reds .br linked with Ashley Williams again today in the press . How much more money will fsg let him waste .out of all his signings only 3 are ok countiho, can, and bar fitness sturridge .havent got enough ink to write the poor ones

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12 Apr 2015 14:07:11
Linked in the press . Enough said

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12 Apr 2015 19:21:06
Williams is a good defender, good on the ball and commanding. Just what we need. If he were cheap like £5m and if Toure or Skrtel were to go, Williams would be a good signing.

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12 Apr 2015 19:25:40
Reycling news from 2 years ago. Nothing to see here and we have better CB`s in our academy than such an average CB

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13 Apr 2015 00:41:34
Better CB in your academy that Williams!? You don't half talk some rubbish Redohio. Williams would be a good addition to your squad, better than toure and skyrtl

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13 Apr 2015 05:21:20
You`re the one talking rubbish, manc. Williams is average at best, laughable at worst and using Skrtel as a comparison is a weak argument because he is just as poor if not poorer than Williams and Toure even at his age, is still better than Williams. As for our academy, Jack Dunn and Lloyd Jones are two great CB prospects that are well thought of per the Ed`s. If you think he is that good, why don`t you sign him at Utd?

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12 Apr 2015 13:06:36
I say sell Sterling now and go for a ready made replacement in someone like Firminho. I'm sick and tired of individuals upsetting morale in the team and generally diverting attention from on the field to off the field matters. Sterling is a long way off being the finished article and if his presence is disrupting more than benefitting the team he should go. I'm sure Shanks or paisley would never have put up with this kind of carry on. Club before ego.

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12 Apr 2015 13:52:35
The question is whose club and whose ego. When Ronaldo (first time around) and Rooney said they wanted to leave United Ferguson said they were not going anywahere full stop (Ronaldo wanted to leave after his incident with Ronney in the World Cup and Ronney two years ago I think).

Ferguson thought the club needed them so he said what BR said recently they are not going anywhere. And if they keep moan about wanting to leave they keep moan but we don't sell. This is a different interpretation of club before the players ego. In any case, some patience could be useful here. Appernatly Henderson is about to sign soon and maybe Sterling with sign in the summer despite all the noise and I think we will all be happy with that.

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12 Apr 2015 13:52:59
Bad idea, highly doubtful he'd come to us with CL and we don't need to replace Sterling. Along with CB,AM is the position we are well stocked in.

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12 Apr 2015 14:37:38
We could not sign a player at the start of this season with the quality of Firmino and that was with CL football on offer, +-£120m in funds and Rodgers at the helm.

What makes you think things are going to be any different when we will have less to spend, no CL to offer if Rodgers had to be in charge?

And what makes it even more laughable is that whoever we will have to replace Sterling with if he gets sold will most likely demand £100k plus a week anyway as we cannot replace Sterling with another Markovic can we?

Some fans defy all logic.

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12 Apr 2015 22:01:10
Yayyyyyyy what a great chance to add to our absurd surplus of wingers and attacking midfielders when we already have a ready made replacements, despite needing at least two fullbacks, a quality striker and maybe a holding midfielder or goalkeeper.

I swear some people think this is football manager, no offence.

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12 Apr 2015 22:36:52
I have posted the same thing yesterday, Max. We will defo have a mess on our hands this summer and the first the season we don`t wanna do is to start selling our core players because we will then b a selling club and we will NEVER get the players we need if we are selling our core players. Selling Raheem because you`re pissed he did not sign a contract is just stupid because regardless of who you bring in, Raheem is a core player in the system and his replacement will NOT be. Players wanna be able to compete and if the club cannot put them in a position to do that then, they will assess their options and rightfully so.

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12 Apr 2015 12:26:26
Wondering what the best result would be for us today between City and Utd.
I know Utd are our mortal enemies but at the end of the day they are both still Mancs. I don't go along with this Red Mancs bad Blue Mancs good. I would prefer it if they could both lose . hahah
Mark

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12 Apr 2015 13:29:58
United still have to play City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Everton I believe. Think they are more likely to drop 9 points from that than City from their remaining games but the most likely outcome is neither will drop the required points.

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12 Apr 2015 13:45:35
Utd loss, no question. Don't even need to explain why.

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12 Apr 2015 13:48:50
I love liverpool way more than I hate United, so as much as it stings I hope they play awfully, get a load of players sent off, and win 1-0 by a ridiculous own goal.

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12 Apr 2015 14:58:01
Oh and then them and City go on to lose all of their remaining games, we finish above both, alongside a nice team that everyone likes, like Southampton!

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12 Apr 2015 11:52:45
A non sterling post😏
Who would you have liked to have seen in the prem? Someone who's never played in it. For me, Zidane.

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{Ed007's Note - Gabriel Batistuta, by far one of the finest - and most underrated - strikers ever to play the game.}

12 Apr 2015 13:47:54
I don't normally comment on eds' comments but I loved batistuta! Brilliant striker- slightly more technical shearer but similar everything else. I would have haver loved to see cannigia in his prime too.

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12 Apr 2015 13:48:27
Messi just so that everyone can see that be can only excel whne the entire team is built around him in a slow slow league

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12 Apr 2015 13:55:32
ohhh ed007, my all time favourite player, watched him when i was a kid. didn't move to a challenging club sadly. would have loved to see more of him.

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{Ed007's Note - He was always in the shadows with the Fat Ronaldo being the 'superstar' of the day. Here's a wee bit of nostalgia for you mate,

12 Apr 2015 14:02:26
Theres so many totti r.carlos pirlo there really is so many legends who never graced the league (is there a reason for that ??? )

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12 Apr 2015 14:10:14
Zlatan just for the circus that would go with it! Other than that Ronaldinho circa early to mid 2000s would have been special

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12 Apr 2015 15:03:52
Not bad for a lad that wanted education more than a career if football.

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12 Apr 2015 15:07:51
It's a difficult one, as appreciating players can be difficult when they play for your rivals. For instance, I would love to watch Hazard, Sanchez, Aguero etc being amazing for European sides, and whilst appreciating that all 3 are great players, I don't take pleasure in watching them doing well for teams we are competing with. Hence why I am pleased that many of my favourite players have never played for any of our rivals. If I had to pick a player however to watch week in week out it would have to be Brazilian Ronaldo, what a player he was in his prime.

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12 Apr 2015 16:27:14
A lot of messi fanboys here judging by the no of disagrees

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12 Apr 2015 18:27:21
Marco Van Basten was to me the perfect striker

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12 Apr 2015 19:50:28
ahh great memories, thanks for that ed007!

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{Ed007's Note - No probs mate :)

12 Apr 2015 20:18:05
for me luis figo

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12 Apr 2015 22:45:56
Batigoal as a complete beast of a striker. He nor Messi IMO, was however NOT in the same class as O Phenomeno, the player that legends Clarence Seedorf and Yuri Djorkaeff (both played with him at Inter) said and I quote, "Ronaldo? The best player I have ever seen". And trust me when he was terrorizing defences at club and international level, he not not labeled "Fat Ronaldo" but labeled as arguably the best striker EVER. He succeded in every league he played in (Italy, Holland, Spain and Brazil) and with his pace, skill and power, he would have scored a bucket load in the PL.

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{Ed007's Note - Nobody asked what Seedorf or Djorkaeff said though, it was about who we thought. Maradona said Batistuta is the greates goal-scorer he has seen in his life but we'd have just stopped at what players said about Paul Scholes if we were just going with quotes.}

13 Apr 2015 05:23:36
I just mentioned those quotes to make a point and nothing more.

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{Ed001's Note - that Ronaldo was special, he played more for the team than his namesake and yet still racked up goals. Such a shame he lost his way.}

12 Apr 2015 11:26:40
If this is all true about raheem rejecting £100.000 pw then its a disgrace. For a kid to be that much money motivated,,well i'd sell him to the highest bidder. But i honestly don't think he is a wonderkid as some people suggest. His first touch is terrible he seems to scuff almost every shot, its very rare you see him hit a true clean shot. And he goes on these little dribbling runs then loses his head and seems to forget what he is doing. But if one of the big European clubs come in for him i.e. Madrid,barca etc. do you honestly see him getting a game. The best thing for him would be sign a new deal but would it be best for lfc ,,i don't know.

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12 Apr 2015 12:37:01
I've thought for the last 18 months that his end product is not good enough to be a starting winger in a CL club, and that he might never be prolific or good enough for that role.
I don't see in him the quick one touch play of a gerrard, or the finishing of a top four attacking player, or good decision making ability.
For me, he can run fast and he can dribble, and that's it.
I've always been sceptical of young players that are hyped up by the media, and for me he is a prime example of this trend- a headless chicken with a very weak shot, though admittedly with good ball control a good dribble.
He's now had a couple of seasons with a lot of game time and a lot of starts, and his attacking and finishing game is not developing the way it needs to. In fact this season he has gone backwards.
Almost every time I've seen Ibe play he has looked as good as Sterling, and much more direct and dangerous.
Some young players get crazily overhyped and command big fees that turn out to be way above their true value to a team.
I think LFC can do better than Sterling, certainly in terms of finishing and goals, and to me he is one of those players that it makes sense to sell for a high fee, so we can fund the top striker we desperately need.

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12 Apr 2015 12:53:34
Leave the kid alone for a bit, his agent is doing him no favours and the media are running with it. He has a lot of pressure on him and he's only 20, why slag him off rather than support him? He's our player, and he's done well this season being played out of position constantly. It comes to something when we can't even support our own players. We stuck by he who shall not be mentioned through much worse than this.

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12 Apr 2015 14:11:38
Yeh let's support the guy who is flattered to be linked with arsenal.If he is money hungry why turn down a 70k a week pay rise and put off till the summer which will be a lot of weeks taking 30k instead of 100k.Its simple he wants to leave us so why support him

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12 Apr 2015 16:10:49
I'll support Sterling until he leaves, I think as long as he's wearing the Liverbird he's our player. I don't care about the media angles or agent agendas. He's 20 years old and is our joint top scorer playing in positions that maybe aren't his best. But that's just me.

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12 Apr 2015 22:53:33
Super and Ollie talk sense here. Many have fallen for the media BS and are now attacking a young and naive boy who is defo being taken for a ride by a self-serving and disingenuos agent ho seems to care about everything else BUT his client(s) because Berahino (who has made dumb comments as well who is also young) has the same agent. I suggest everyone just chill out and wait till the process runs it`s course because Ed01 has said that money is NOT the issue so it is just r people to keep mentioning the 100k a week stuff when in reality, it is not abot that.

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12 Apr 2015 09:11:45
If Raheem Sterling played for another club and we had 30m to spend, would you buy him? He has serious potential but there's a large risk that he may not fulfil it and with a host of other players able to play his position (not least Jordan Ibe), I would personally snap an arm off if we were offered that kind of money for him.

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12 Apr 2015 11:20:56
RS is only 20 and will get better, that I'm sure off. "He has serious potential but there's a large risk that he may not fulfil it" what makes you think Jordan Ibe will fulfil his potential? ! I'm certain he will, but remember these are very young players, and still learning. They are no where near their peak, so to he may not fulfil his potential is not a good argument as that can be said of any young player. RS one of LFC's better players, and you want the club to progress, you do not sell your better players, especially one that is still learning his craft.

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12 Apr 2015 11:35:08
But we don't have to spend anything because he's our player!!!! This is crazy

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12 Apr 2015 12:55:19
Do you remember when he was playing in our academy and we all thought he was the best thing ever? How times change

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12 Apr 2015 13:19:14
Southampton sold there BEST players and are doing fine sometimes your better to sell

That been said were terrible at signing players and have been for years so I say keep him and give more youth a chance they seem to do better

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12 Apr 2015 23:13:04
No it is NOT better to sell because a player refuses to sign a contract when many say he should. We need to do everything we need to keep our best prospects because regardless of what money we get, selling your best prospects because you`re pissed they did not do as you said is just dumb and will only make us a selling club and we will NOT attract good players by selling our core players. Believing that he should be sold because he did not accept a contract we wold have accepted is just stupid and by the way, the ED01 already said money was not the issue and that certain clauses and riders were.

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11 Apr 2015 22:30:32
The quintent of Lambert, Balotelli, Markovic, Lallana, and Lovren cost ~£85M and have played 5, 307 minutes in the league scoring a combined 9 goals, getting 4 assists, and creating 60 chances.

Sterling and Henderson have played 5, 135 minutes scoring 12, assisting 14, and creating 110 chances.

Well done transfer committee.

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12 Apr 2015 06:04:58
Understand your point, but lovren is a defender, not expected to contribute to goal stats, lallana has been injured a lot, and I really like him as a player. We play 1 striker, and you've named two on your list, and obviously you'd like to believe if Lambert or balotelli was guarded to start they would contribute more. Balotelli is an exception, he had had enough Chances, but Lambert was always going to be a sub, so it's hard to factor In a minutes to goal ratio. You've basically just picked our two bed performing attacking players to 5 other players.

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12 Apr 2015 07:25:28
It was a shocking attempt by Liverpool football club last summer it truly was from the man that employed the committee to BR. Absolutely clueless. The way that money was spent was discraceful but it's nothing new, we have been doing it for years. Would of thought we would of learnt from the stupid idea to spend 35 million on Andy Carroll.

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12 Apr 2015 07:57:50
Lovren is a defender so should be excused from any goal or assist count.
I agree with everything else though RDL.

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12 Apr 2015 08:14:10
Lacazette, Konoplyanka/H.Min-Son, Firmino, Papadopoulos/Alderweireld would have cost us around £60m - £65m last summer

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12 Apr 2015 09:00:48
Well done to Rodgers too for approving of the quintent of Lambert, Balotelli, Markovic, Lallana, and Lovren.

Lallana, Lambert, Lovren and Balotelli would have all be very well known to Rodgers.

Markovic is the one Rodgers would not have known about.

My question is, who else did Rodgers reject on the shortlist in favour of the above mentioned players?

We know the likes of Bertrand and Remy were on there. If only we knew which other players were a possible to sign but rejected by Rodgers?

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12 Apr 2015 09:11:11
No one can argue that last summer's signings were success but I think it is worth remembering that there is always an element of gambling and uncertainty about signings. Chelsea, who everyone praise their signing success in recent years and rightly so, still bought Torres from us for what 50M? and this was a disastros signing. ManU are paying what 250K a week To Falcau to play for the reserve team. Some signings take time to show that they were worthwhile - See Fallieni in ManU last year and this season.

For us Lallana was not a bad signing and he can become an improtant player, I am happy we have him. Lovern may come good, hard to tell. I personally don't have much expectations for Markovich. Baloteli was a disaster and he should leave in the summer but I repeat what I said here many times before, no one could have predicted Mario will be so poor on the pitch. People thought about discipline issues, red cards and bad influence in the dressing room but the view was that if BR can control his behaviour (and he overall did) Mario can do miracles on the pitch. At the end of the day the number one target of the committee and BR was Sanchez, this was the right call but he didn't want to come. let's hope this summer they do a better job.

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12 Apr 2015 09:11:46
Wow ! 😠

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12 Apr 2015 09:19:57
Is the transfer committee real or myth? If it really does exist, doesn't BR have a final say anyway?

The topic of the transfer committee only seems to come up in conversation when people are defending BR.

Either way, our transfers since FSG arrived have been truly awful.

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12 Apr 2015 09:49:02
The managers tactics and motivational skills (or lack thereof) in the first half of the season will have had some influence on numbers of goals scored, although we certainly made bad mistakes in transfers.
But keep some perspective. let's not forget there were some good buys too.
I still think there is a very good left back lurking somwhere inside moreno, and markovic, lovren and manquillo could still become very good players.
It was a bit better than kennys big window, where we signed the likes of downing and adam.
And at least there is some good news, in that the owners will try to make sure the mistakes are not repeated in future.

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12 Apr 2015 11:01:15
None of you complained about the transfers last season.

In fact, many was praising the signings.

I remember though that may were concerned regarding the replacement of Suarez , which has proven to be true.

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12 Apr 2015 12:48:26
It annoys me a bit that people are so negative about Lazar. Ed2 said he isn't ready for the prem, his manager at Benfica said he needed careful management and game time. He wasn't meant to be amazing straight away. If managed properly he will be a superb player, however I fear the way his game time has been managed this season he may have been set back rather than developed. I really hope it's not too much of a set back for him.

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12 Apr 2015 12:56:50
I don't have a major problem with many of the signings as individuals apart from the strikers which were both gambles that didn't work IMO (although I still suspect if BR had had Sturridge fit to play him as a pair with Balo, might have been a very different outcome)

I suspect most others will work out over time, but I still question whether they were good choices for what the team needed. Any team needing to draft Can in to CB, play GJ at RB and use Sterling as striker clearly hasn't filled gaps. On the other hand we already have Coutinho, Sterling as attacking mids, yet spent another 45million on Llalana and Markovic?

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12 Apr 2015 13:01:56
what I don't get is how lallana has suddenly become quite injury prone. he was hardly missing for southampton now he just starts getting a decent run of games he picks up another injury. i think we look a better team with him in.

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12 Apr 2015 13:15:51
Can't afford to make the same mistake replacing Gerrard Davey.Would love to see Henderson and Can and as the muscle with Pjanic pulling the strings.

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12 Apr 2015 13:30:56
You are quite correct Davey in your assesment that we were all cock a hoop about the new signings over the Summer, except for Balo, plenty could predict he was a massive gamble. One thing you forget tho. We are not here to pick players and have no real knowledge really of how good a player is or can be in the future. Many think they do tho! But Rodgers, the committee and the scouts should have an idea who they want and if they should be good enough.

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12 Apr 2015 13:50:56
Wasn't Lallana last seasons most subbed player?

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12 Apr 2015 14:13:01
Can't believe the vitriol directed against Liverpool players. Lallana and Lovren are really good players, Marko will be superb too. You can argue we overpaid or whatever but no doubting their quality.

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12 Apr 2015 15:07:44
For those that mentioned Lovren (and admittedly he's not expected to add much to those 3 stats in particular), you could swap him out with Moreno and the numbers don't change much. Broader point being we spent a lot of money and 3 of those 5 haven't even hit 1,000 minutes on the pitch, either through injury or not being selected or both.

I don't really care if it was Rodgers or the committee, but either way our transfers once again have either been very poor or the manager hasn't been able to get much from them and either way we don't have the money to keep spending this badly.

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