Liverpool Banter Archive July 12 2013

 

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12 Jul 2013 21:22:35
Just a slight concern with the Suso loan. When Coutinho gets injured or loses form who is going to supply the bullets for Sturridge and co? Hendo, Gerrard, Allen are not exactly playmakers, and I don't think Aspas is a genuine playmaker? I think Brendan mentioned in his press conference yesterday that an attacker is needed I hope this is an offensive player that can unlock defences rather than an out and out striker. I'm loving the fact that there's no news of transfers coming out of Anfield so we can get business done without the interference of the media back to the good old days. I still haven't got over us not signing Mickey but I hope Rogers pulls a rabbit from a hat. Just want to say the Eds were right about us scouting Bernard a while back and they got grief over it and now there's a clamour to sign him its funny how the patrons of this sight are so contrary.

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I can see Texeira stepping up along with Alberto, looks promising to me.

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Gerrard not a playmaker?

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I think Mr Gerrard had the 4th or 5th most assists from midfield last year behind Mata, Hazard and Corzola. Ste is not only hard but considered creative

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Maybe rodgers looking to buy a top attacking midfield. But that make me worry what will happen to suso after his loan end, I believe he is going to be a top player for us.

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Gerrard has it all

Hard, physical, technique, 2 footed, can head the ball, presence, born leader, enigmatic, charismatic

What other midfielders have this ability

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Gerrard had it all. Now he just has some of it left.

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What a fan?

Some of what Gerrard has is better than what most other players have and that includes the new favourite coutinho, to me he's the new lucas a couple of season wonder then gone!

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So we should walk the league with Gerrard as good as he was in the mid 2000's.

He will always be class but he is not what he used to be. let's face it.

Why is that being a Fan?

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And we'll walk the league with who?

You don't get it?

Why kick Gerrard because of his age he's still our best player!

None of the younsters have surpassed him.

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12 Jul 2013 20:42:49
To any of the eds
Is Martin Kelly out of contract summe 2014 or what is the situation situation? {Ed001's Note - I thought his contract ended in 2017?}

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He signed a new contract around feb 13

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He signed a new long term contract while he was injured.

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He signed a new contract a few months back. I think it was in March.

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He sighned a new one while injured last season

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What a waste should have got Mr. sicknote off the wages bill

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Yeah dipsh#ep, cause Kelly is on huge wages, right?

Fensh

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No because he never plays and he must be on 30k a week for nothing

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Exaggerate much dipsh#ep? I have seen him play plenty.

Leave the young lads alone man.

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12 Jul 2013 20:19:57
Liverpool have begun negotiations with Ajax for Eriksen and apparently tv reported it. I checked Sky and never seen it anywhere. Has anyone else seen it?

To be honest I am so fed up of Eriksen being linked as clearly he is well down the list of targets.

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It would be a much fairer assessment to say LFC is far down his list of destinations

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Eriksen is in talks with roma, they want him as a replacement for pjanic who could be on his way to spurs

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12 Jul 2013 20:11:14
Is it just me or does anyone else just stop reading when they see a post that starts "so we missed out on [insert name here]" its a banter site so everyone is entitled to an opinion but my opinion is just because we didn't sign a player doesn't mean we "missed out"

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12 Jul 2013 20:00:03
I think Real Madrid paying £33m for Illarramendi is the second worst example of money ruining football in history. The first and undisputed number one being you lot paying £35m for Andy Carroll . That will never be topped!

GRD

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There was always Veron

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Erm £20m Anderson £15m David Bentley sshhhh

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Illarramendi is quality, even if he was blindfolded he'd be superior to lucas, I pray we don't start the season with the bog standard lucas in the startin 11,

majestic69

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*Cough* Torres *Cough*

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What and Torres £50 million to Chelsea is not number 1, who are you trying to kid?
Sam

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Woah woah woah Chelsea started the whole thing with Torres we just wanted Carroll plus 15 mil.

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50M for Torres has got to be up there.

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Besides the unnecessary Lucas bashing, we do need a quality DM added to our squad.

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30 million plus for rooney when he leaves utd this year, now that's a laugh

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12 Jul 2013 19:50:18
Just used the search function looking for an answer and received a returned message - " Ask the Ed's '"

Really confused ; -)

Nicky D

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Yeah that will be right.

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12 Jul 2013 19:14:40
I'm going to put this out there because I wouldn't be surprised if it happened. Higuian will be included in the Suarez deal as Arsenal are messing about. If he doesn't end up at Arsenal I think Spurs are definately a possibility with the Bale deal.

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What bale deal? Don't think he is going anywhere

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Common people. Is Higuain going to halve his wages and not play CL to come to us?

Think a little

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12 Jul 2013 19:04:43
Some of the posts in the dodgy rumours section are just hilarious especially that one where someone claims to be HM's sister and another one from some geordie guy.

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12 Jul 2013 18:42:53
Thanks for answer about Bernard
If we are not targeting him then are we looking at another midfielder after not getting Mkhitayran?

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12 Jul 2013 20:35:18
With Liverpool FC showing their friendlies Live Online the income is unreal. 100 million homes paying say a £1? I'd take it. This my friends is the future of football. So any concerns of Liverpool going bust will be gone forever.

All funded by us the fans. Not only this but chuck some advertising in and a bit of merchandise you won't be needing any oil rich billionaires anymore.

Alfie

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Very true alfie, very true!
Michael xxxl undies gilbert.

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100 million homes pay per view.

As simple as that eh?

Gibbon

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Dude Are you frickin serious that you think 100million people will tune in to watch Liverpool play Preston in a pre season friendly

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I don't think anything near a hundred million people want to watch a Liverpool friendly game, Alfie.

That said, saw some posts people pointing people to frontrow or what have you to watch the pre-season games.

For those posters, if you want to help the club, please consider giving them the roughly ~£10 for LFC TV online for the next two months viewership rather than trying to watch a poor stream for free as every little bit helps.

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100 millions homes? Have you taken leave of your senses. I don't care if it's a global franchise, that figure is ludicrous.
Get a reality check before the white coats come calling!

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Is the Preston game being streamed then? I checked LFC.tv earlier and nothing there. Do you have a link?

Thanks

ChrisE

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Yeah, according to the LFC website they're supposed to stream all 6 pre-season friendlies plus Gerrard's testimonial via LFC TV online (or whatever it's called). Figure it's worth ~£10 for the next few months to catch all those games especially since the money goes directly to the club.

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12 Jul 2013 19:15:22
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Hear, hear.

Andy K

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12 Jul 2013 18:53:17
pointless fact
did you know we have 2 luis alberto's

Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz
Luis Alberto Romero Alconchel

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Not for long :-)

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12 Jul 2013 18:49:38
I'm wondering why so many people are up in arms because we didn't get delofeu. For me this is the first time I can remember when we have an academy full of potential, ibe, sterling, suso, Sinclair just to name a few so why the hell would we want to get a guy for a year with no option to buy just to give him game time then send him back to barca a better player? It makes no sense to me, will this 19 year old really make that much of a difference to us in 1 year to get us a top 4 or better? I doubt it, so why limit the chances that our own youngsters could get. Personally I'm glad we didn't get him as good as he may be.

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You forgot our own youth striker prodigy- Yesil. Why we would want Deulofeu to get precious minutes over Yesil is well beyond me.

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This post shouts commonsense - why would we have an incoming loan when we have a lot of potential of our own - I have no doubt we will see at least another couple of established players coming in before the end of the window - hopefully before the Olympiakos game -100% Red

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12 Jul 2013 18:46:01
Luis Alberto 2012/13: 38 games- 11 goals & 17 assists
Wilfried Zaha 2012/13: 50 games - 8 goals & 10 assists

Wilfried Zaha 15m
Luis Alberto 6.8m

Have a little faith in BR please

Irish redman

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Good point

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12 Jul 2013 18:39:08
Arsene wenger thinks he's signing Suarez for 35 million.

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Dennis Suarez?


Gibbon

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12 Jul 2013 18:24:50
Wow, Real Madrid are going to have a big future with their recent signings.
Casmeiro and Illarramendi sitting, Casmeiro the destroyer and Illarramendi the deep seated passer. Then Isco, the attacking creator, similar to Gerrard, Alonso and Masch. How I miss those days and the days when we could compete at the top of the market, but I'm not wishing the past to return, looking forward to seeing our club rebuild!

Anfield Andy

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With respect to Alonso and Mascherano they weren't 'top of the market' players when we signed them. They became top of the market players during their time at Liverpool.

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12 Jul 2013 18:23:30
Is this a football rumours site or an ask the Ed?

Liverpool will match the fee Cardiff City agreed for the signature of Paul ince's son Tom. The deal will involve Adam Morgan going out on loan to Blackpool. No buying option for Blackpool just a season long loan

Deal to be announced on Tuesday 16.07.13

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12 Jul 2013 18:21:19
hi anybody know where to watch the Preston match tmro- I know its on Liverpoolfc.tv but is it on anywhere else? {Ed030's Note - Espn mate,If you don't have that then try first row sports. }

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The game is broadcast live on LFCtv and the official LFC website, kick-off is 3pm .

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You could try Preston

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The game isn't broadcast live on LFCtv mate. It's not being shown on there until Sunday at 10am.

MUSHROOM

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12 Jul 2013 18:17:58
Hello eds

It has been reported that Arsenal will make another bid for Suarez.

If it is true then Suarez is a liar. I thought he wanted to leave because of the way journalists treated him in England. His agent must be trying really hard to get Suarez a club that can offer Champions League Football.

The sooner we sell this clown the better. With 40-50 million we can easily get 2-3 players who can provide 30 goals a season.

If Arsenal offer 40 million GBP then I say take it and run!

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I'm not defending Suarez but you can't call him a liar just because an English club bids for him. Obviously if he joins Arsenal, then you have a point.

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12 Jul 2013 16:05:34
Eds I am curious to hear what you think of Liverpools chances next season. Personally I think we will get 5th but will be fighting for top four closely. First taking one out of Sir Alex's book we now have 4 strikers and I personally think that when Luis leaves Sturridge will shine and become a 20+ goal scorer. Seconed our midfiled look much more sorted at the end of last season with Henderson really stepping up, Gerrard being himself and Lucas back to health. Also Phillepe is going to become one of the most dynamic and feared players in the league to me he can have the same impact as Juan Mata does, not the fastest but his passing vision and even his strike looks deadly. Finally I don't think we will buy any more defenders. I also don't think bar coates any will leave at least not until January. If Skrtel doesn't regain form I think Kolo is very capable of slotting in until January. Lastly Unlike the start of last season we now have depth. To me this is the most important thing. No longer can players put in half ass efforts and keep there place, from now on everyone who is starting knows that to keep there spot they have to be on top form or someone working harder will take their spot. Thanks for reading now commence the rubbish talking, and yes I no I can't spell, i'm dumb, FSG suck, Suarez is an ass, and BR is a failure.


ElRobbeNino {Ed030's Note - I think near enough the same mate,We might have a go at the top 4,But I think we will narrowly miss out. }

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Pair of u have not got a clue . we will be faster clever and better from the off than the end of last season 2 solid signings we will remain at the top of the table from the first day till we lift the trophy and everything is in are favoure . do the math 3 of the top 3 all new manager all tuff starts to the leauge with a new style, s on top of that add maybe 14 european games when we are fresh on top of that a lot of top 3 teams have players been in brazil we only had suarez ( gone sap ) raina (gone asp ) so I made my name I stick buy what I see what fergie seen Liverpool fc playing football again scary why don't u see it people

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We do see it! - when we wear our rose coloured spectacles mate! The fact is we are rebuilding. I am not a doom and gloom merchant at all. We have a lot of new players who will probably take time to settle. I think we have progressed and are going in the right direction. However although I will be hoping for a top 3 place I think 5th is realistic for us, and should be the benchmark this season!

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11 Jul 2013 10:11:41
ED. with Gomez heading to Fiorentina, that leaves Bayern with only 2 strikers.
You fancy them coming with a bid of 40 mill for suarez? {Ed030's Note - Possibly,Madrid are likely to bid soon or they already may have done. }

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09 Jul 2013 23:31:19
How good is the Brazilian Bernard Eds and Reds do people believe we have a chance of getting him.

Scouse Ben {Ed030's Note - He is an exceptional talent,Who has the ability to make it to the top,He was looked at by Liverpool when we scouted South America but nothing came of it,He will probably move to Porto or Shaktar. }

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I think Arsenal will try for Bernard

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13 Jul 2013 08:32:48
Thanks Ed030,
Interesting you see Porto linked I think they've lost a couple of top players to Monaco so this link would make sense.
Carlo

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12 Jul 2013 17:57:18
Mostly seems to be 2 schools of thought on suarez on here. Love him and want him to stay or hate him and want him out, I must be in the third group, do I want him to stay? Of course I do. Do I care if he goes? Not really. My only issue with suarez is if he goes to an english team after all his interviews lately that he needs out of england. Regardless of the support he has received over his indescretions, the fact that he stated publicly (morethan once) that he is being hounded out of england then joining an english team would be the ultimate betrayal. It reminds me of tevez last year when he stormed of to Argentina for 4 months saying he couldn't stay in england because he was too far from his family then mulled over a move to italy (correct me if i'm wrong but italy is even further away from argentina) so hope he stays but if not do like you said and get out of england and you'll go with my thanks for the last 3 seasons

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12 Jul 2013 17:51:53
Hope suso does well and comes back ready for next season.
Rob liar speed.

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Still putttting our faith in the future

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12 Jul 2013 17:40:58
Hey eds!
Liverpool are interested in signing an AM. So Is there any interest by Liverpool in Marek Hamsik?He's young & a pretty good prospect.
Also u ve any idea which players Real Madrid may add in package for Suarez deal? {Ed002's Note - Search engine.}

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12 Jul 2013 17:33:29
Ajax coach Frank de Boer. "If they play as they do now, I would not go", the former Netherlands international told Dutch newspaper Algemeen Dagblad.

"The playing style would not suit his own but, ultimately, it is for Chris himself to decide.". Maybe there is contact over Eriksen edds

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I'm pretty sure we don't want him but how is our playing style not suited?
1. Ajax play a possesion based 4-3-3, so do Liverpool.
2. Eriksen would slot in at CAM, he would do the same at Liverpool.
3. Eriksen has previously said that he wants a move to spain over anywhere else and mentioned he suits the spanish style. well the whole blueprint of Brendan Rodgers empire at Liverpool seems so be just like the spanish clubs. Has de Boer any clue as to what Liverpool are like these days?

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Eriksen is lazy! He doesn't track and wouldn't a suit the high pressing style of Liverpool.

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Yeah read these comments, would like him to expand on that point not quite sure what he means!

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12 Jul 2013 17:26:01
I hope we get rid of some of our fringe players who are not quite good enough who have come through the ranks e.g. spearing. I love money for nothing!
Brendan 'cheapskate' kelly.

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12 Jul 2013 17:21:40
Ed, is this Yilmaz chap a. The real deal and a decent striker? And b. A realistic target for us? As I know he is strongly link with another EPL team.

Thanks buddy and have a good weekend.

No.3 Red {Ed002's Note - See previous answers please, and have a bodacious weekend.}

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12 Jul 2013 17:04:34
Anyone else thinking Suarez could be lookin for another pay rise in all this?
Had his wage trebled after 1st season.
His "statement" " my agent and the club know what I want" seems too open ended for me :0/

Piddy. {Ed002's Note - If you haven't figured it out by now you never will.}

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13 Jul 2013 00:13:28
I know what your saying Ed002, I just feel if he were going it would have been sorted already. Maybe there are other issues? Who knows.
IF he does go, Tello & Eriksen would do for me.

Piddy.

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12 Jul 2013 16:42:50
The search engine is so cool now and works perfectly, I just don't undertsand why people won't use it!

fatboy

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12 Jul 2013 16:32:16
Suso confirmed to be joining deportiva almeria on season loan.

Piddy

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12 Jul 2013 16:30:30
I apologise for what might have seemed a stupid comment

I care as much as every genuine poster on here about the clubs success and I am anxious to see us get back were we belong at the top of the premier league so a preseason when we are linked with names inevitably brings questions it was a question is anyone concerned? not I am concerned I believe in what Brendan is trying to do as much as anyone and I don't wanna get slated everytime I ask an opinion

apologies for punctuation- keyboards broken

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It's not a matter of believing in what BR is trying to do, it's more HOPING he will turn things around, believing in people has backfired on us too many times, ie Torres, Owen, Dalglish (2nd stint) Suarez.
I think Coutinho will be massive for us this season and become a fans favourite and top class but if we don't do well he will probably want out too when the CL clubs come calling.

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Have to say, I agree that it is more hope than belief right now. Now don't get me wrong, am 100% behind all our signings, and 100% behind the manager, but - it will take an extraordinary amount of work and managerial genius to pull it off, with a good slice of luck here and there as well. The more high quality signings (that we have been teased with today) the less magic we will need, so we don't yet know exactly how hard it will be. I am really looking forward to the season, I think we will play some great stuff, but how consistent we will be, I personally believe, will depend greatly on who else is to come in. Assuming Suarez is off, if we can get 3 high quality players, we are capable of beating anyone. I hope that BR can pull it off, but am not so sure I believe he can - but I'm hoping as much as anyone.

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12 Jul 2013 16:27:16
I agree paddy pufter, he was quality!
Whale gilbert.

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12 Jul 2013 16:24:23
Had a dream last night that LFC singed Giorginio Wijnaldum. What are the chances my dream comes true. Or should I just go back to sleep lol

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Is that a new song? Would be strange to see the whole squad sing Giorginio Wijnaldum, maybe its a new training!

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12 Jul 2013 16:23:21
Was Toby Alderwiereld ever a target in the first place? And Is he still? {Ed002's Note - Search engine.}

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Good question. Could maybe some answer?
Carlo {Ed002's Note - You have to be some sort of idiot.}

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12 Jul 2013 19:07:43
I'll I can say is that if both us and leverkusen have decided that 8m is too much, then he can't be all that good.

Either that or there has been a big price drop

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12 Jul 2013 16:23:05
Eds any interest in Kevin Prince Boateng? {Ed002's Note - Search engine.}

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12 Jul 2013 16:15:44
De Boer has said that Liverpools style of play doesn't suit Eriksen. I don't know if he's right or wrong but doesntthe fact he's talking abour thissuggest Liverpool are a serious option for Eriksen?

Hounsred

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I would actually agree with him on that point, I don't think Erikson's style suits the way we play. Great player and would be happy to have him though.

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12 Jul 2013 16:08:05
Why does everyone forget about Sturridge when talking about replacing Suarez. I think wwe should use the Suarez proceeds to get a RW and a LW because Downing is to be sold (fortunately imo), and aspas isn't exactly and out and out winger. Remember we play 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 often. I see many people asking for AMs too but let's not forget where Coutinho showed his best form. And we have back ups in the likes of Gerrard, Allen etc. I really think we should be looking for two skilful, technically sound wingers.
Fitz
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That is what I have been saying all about. We will still have 3 Strikers in Sturridge, Borini and Aspas more than enough since we have to concentrate on league only. Rather spend on RW and LW and those who are class and would join us but would be expensive such as Konoplyanka, Gaitan, Wijnaldum, Yarmalenko, etc.

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Such as Sterling and Ibe you mean?
The Juicer

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Were saying am as we don't play with wingers players that can interchange coutinho-henderson-aspas-alberto and now targeting players like miki-eriksen-bernard

mayhem 1981

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12 Jul 2013 16:03:19
Ince turning down chance to play in premier lge with Cardiff. Maybe he is holding out to see if we regain our interest in him? I think would be a good addition to the squad if could get him for £5 million. what's peoples opinions?

Barry

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No way Ince mate. We need players to take us to the next step up and he ain't it.
BarryinLouth

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So who are the players to take us to the next step, Aspas and Alberto, not so sure but I really hope so

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He's not a Jonny Foreigner so gets discounted. If he's Tomasso Incio with 18 goals in Serie B he'd be OK?

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12 Jul 2013 23:48:54
I think alberto was the cheaper and better option than ince

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12 Jul 2013 15:47:49
Now that Real Madrid have signed Illarramendi could that mean there's a bigger chance of grabbing Alonso? I know he's personally said he doesn't think he'll leave this season but does this signing change anything?
Thanks in advance. {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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He was supposed to be a replacement at DM for Alonso

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12 Jul 2013 15:40:49
Liking what BR is saying about Suarez. It's obvious he wants him to stay and so do I. He's also confirmed he wants to bring in a few more players which is good. The squad as it stands now is simply not good enough to fight for fourth and we need 2 or 3 better first team players compete

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Very true mate and I agree with you but there's a world of difference between wanting to bring in some top players and actually doing it!

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That's why Xabi Alonso is a no brainer. Yes, no sell no sell on value but two years of quality midfield passing and controlling games.

Quality is needed to get that top four. Remember, based on second half of last season we were right up with Arsenal and Chelsea in terms of points.

This year, no Europa to add to the games! If Suarez stayed, alonso came and we add depth we'll be closer next season!

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12 Jul 2013 15:21:12
Hi Ed's,

Now that Real Madrid have signed Illarramendi and being touted as the next Xabi Alonso, could this see the return on Alonso to Anfield?

cheers. {Ed002's Note - No idea. If Liverpool want Alonso they need to show interest in him. So far they haven't.}

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12 Jul 2013 15:18:22
Hi all its me spud mcgorrin. Just wandering if anyone has heard anything about the possibility of yossi coming back to fill the gap left by suarez? Replys appreciated.
Mr potato head

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Spud, you are having a laugh.
Phil 'loaf head' parry

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Hi spud, I would love Yossi back he is a great player
Phil the gardener lover Parry

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Well LFC would have got half of the transfer fee.

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Hi all its me spud mcgorrin again. Why am I having a laugh loaf head. Yossi is still a top top player with plenty of experience who would love to come back. Would be cheap aswell. Ideal replacement in my opinion.
Mr potato head

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Spud, you haven't a clue what your talking about. Yossi wouldn't get a game
From phil greasy fringe parry.

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Hi all its me spud mcgorrin again. How dare u greasy fringe. Yossi is a lfc legend dare I say in the same bracket as SG/KK. U will be eating your eggs when he comes back and runs the show AGAIN! Unbelievable some people.
Mr potato head

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12 Jul 2013 15:04:27
According to tv "Blackpool winger Tom Ince has declined Cardiff City's offer."
Just saying.not neccesarily LFC related.
ANFIELDPETE

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12 Jul 2013 14:48:52
Eds are we interested in Siem De Jong? {Ed002's Note - Not that I know of.}

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12 Jul 2013 14:46:26
Hey eds, not transfer related but do you know who was the last German player to play for Liverpool?

I know Didi Hamann played with us and Yesil is in our squad but is there anyone in between that time who played for us? {Ed002's Note - Not that I know of.}

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You are right, before Yesil the last one was Didi Hamann but we also had Karl-Heinz Reidle, Marcus Babbel and bone idle Christian Zeige! before that

wardie

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12 Jul 2013 14:44:40
Who decide IF Suarez stay or not. The eds or BR? BR belive he will stay. {Ed002's Note - He has never been the brightest.}

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Very bright comments in keeping the price up

mayhem 1981

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12 Jul 2013 14:39:27
Ed's can you give us a list of every player on the planet who could be sold? We are apparently missing out on so many players, maybe these fool fans would like a list to check off the players that we "missed out on".

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12 Jul 2013 14:37:25
Norwich have agreed a fee of £6.9million with Ajax for highly-rated defender Toby Alderweireld.

However, the 24-year-old had told Belgium paper Het Laatste Nieuws: 'I do not want to play in an English club to mid-table.'

Liverpool had been the front runners in the race to land Alderweireld after the Belgium international gave the green light to a possible summer move to Anfield.

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So Liverpool were willing to pay over £15M for Papa but as of yet have shown little interest in Alderweireld who can cover CB & LB? {Ed002's Note - No, I explained what happened with him. Ignore the finances - they are confusing you.}

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12 Jul 2013 15:45:53
I wish any mention of money in excess of �1M were banned from these pages. Too many little girls playing house.

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Small correction; he's played RB a few times, not LB.

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Think you need to stop getting to attached to players you would like to sign big d

mayhem 1981

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12 Jul 2013 14:31:20
eds. does Real Madrid signing the guy from Sociedad for nearly £33m change anything with regards to Suarez or is there still plenty money in their pot if they wish to make a bid. {Ed002's Note - The money is irrelevant as far as this forum is concerned.}

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12 Jul 2013 14:24:02
Tom Ince has rejected the chance to join Cardiff, I wonder weather Liverpool have made a bid as I read yesterday that he is holding out for a move back to Liverpool?

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12 Jul 2013 14:16:29
With Real Madrid signing Illarramendi, do u think Liverpool will try sign Xabi back?

J

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Why would you want to re-sign players that used to play for us. Nostalgia? Move on as there are new and younger Xabi's waiting to be given the chance to excel.

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12 Jul 2013 13:23:17
Can everyone stop harping on about deulofeu!
Everton haven't signed him its just a year loan. Why have a player, a raw player at that for a year give him experience before giving him back to barca a better player.
There wasn't the option of realistically signing him on a permanent deal.

Rant over
Puzzled Red

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LFC cannot sign everyone deemed to be a good player. Surely it is not possible.

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The main reason Barca let Him go on loan to Everton is playing time.
He will get more there, than LFC.
He looks a good player and I doubt if it will be more than one year

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I would imagine there are finance and squad limitations even in video games and fantasy football leagues. There does not, however, appear to be the same limitation in the expectations of vegetables.

SpudRed

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12 Jul 2013 13:41:36
If Suarez does stay for another season and scores and plays brilliantly, how many of you will still be saying he should go and to get rid!?

Disengenous fans who've slated him should consider that whilst he was on the pitch, wearing our crest, he played brilliantly.

Now I don't care if he stays or goes, but whilst he was in the team he carried the fight.

So, cut him some slack - the same people that were lauding him, now cast negative aspersions towards him.

It's his right to want to play in a successful team and win some medals. He has seen and played in the squad we have and he knows that we won't do anything for years.

That's the reality - he's a top player in an average team.

M

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I am okay with that if he wants to go on and play for Real or Bayern and I am sure many kopites will be but that about Arsenal. Do you reckon he is right to ditch us for them?
I personally will be more pissed off on him than torres if he did that. Atleast we know Chelsea were likely to win something while Arsenal are just in competitions to make the numbers.

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Disingenuous?. you mean like Suarez has been with Liverpool Football Club, and it's fans, after they stood by him, on numerous occasions!
Disingenuous means insincere, false, hypocrite. I think that sums Suarez up more than Liverpool fans, who he hasn't, t given a thought too, in the past few weeks!
Get rid I say!

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I agree with some of your points M, I too don't care whether Suarez stays or go's ( as long as we don't get our pants pulled down on the transfer fee) But I don't agree we are an average team.

I believe we are a good team and improved considerably in the latter half of the season. I may be wrong but I believe our results from January on wards, if replicated in the first half of the season, would have sent us into the top four.

That is not an average team. I could of course be proved wrong when the new season starts, but I thought we played better when Suarez was banned, particularity in terms of the link up between the midfield and the forward line.

Consequently I feel we are improving team, full of attacking flair with an excellent manager and Suarez isn't moving on because he's worried about winning trophies, he's moving on because he's a money grabbing careerist, but then who of us ( if we are truly honest) aren't?

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Correct andy, post was spot on, if our summer and winter rebuilding last season was rolled into one and we got all our targets in the summer, we would not be disgusing losing suarez because we would be in the champs league. Yes suarez is a great player but one player does not make a team. doesn't matter where he goes either, experience has shown we always move on and often to bigger and better too.

People need to forget suarez, we potentially have a world beater already in the squad in coutinho. This lad at 20 will become imense for us and WILL eclipse suarez. in years to come poeple will be saying suarez who?

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I can accept that some think we are an average team. I don't agree but I can see that point of view. I can also accept that top players will have desire to play at the top level and to win things. Fine and dandy. I would imagine the vast majority of high quality players at under achieving teams think about moving.

What I cannot accept is a douche nozzle of person that airs this type of desire in public media forums. That is a lower form of pond life.

There are plenty of players that take care of all this stuff behind the scenes, in discussions with their own club and their agent discussing with prospective teams all the time. It does not hamper their chances of achieving whatever moves they desire.

DF type of people doing DF type of things do them solely for attention, self gratification, and personal benefit with no regard for others whilst still expecting the respect of others.

Suarez has been a DF in his actions this summer and several other times in similar situations at other clubs.

So, no, I will not respect him. I will understand if be moves on and likewise, I will enjoy the use of him if he stays for one more season and plays hard for us. But I will never respect or excuse his behavior ever again.

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No - he hasn't been a DF.

He's stated he wants to move on - fine with that.

Don't always believe the anti Suarez media spin as there is a lazy media agenda against him.

He's painted as a 'badboy' player but frankly is what he did that bad!?

Forget the Evra nonsense because that was a witch hunt.

He bit a player more out of frustration than anything else. But is that worse than breaking a player's legs in a tackle!? I think not!

Don't believe the press/ media - haven't you realised by now how they spin things or downright lie!?

As I've said, I don't care about any player, but whilst he is still a LFC player I won't throw barbs at him.

M

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M, how then do you explain those of us, like me, who are not English and have no clue or concern about what they say about Suarez yet still think he is in fact a 'person' for lack of a nicer way to put it? You can't go blaming Suarez's antics on 'media spin' when they are very clearly on public display.

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12 Jul 2013 13:30:59
I know Illarramendi is considered one for the present and future but if Real have paid 33m for him, how much would they be willing to pay for Suarez?
I know they play completely different positions but 33m really?
That is ridiculous money for him, Ian Ayre take note please.
I just cannot believe that.
Football transfers are getting stranger by the day.
Maybe I'm losing touch with reality.

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They've got to have the most expensive midfield, between him, Xabi, Modric, Kaka, it's just insane. People talk about City and Chelsea spending big!

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12 Jul 2013 12:56:59
Edd's
Do you believe there is any marque signings, or players that would excite Luis enough to stay, that we are able to buy within our transfer budget. I see R.madrid have now bought Illarramendi for a quoted fee of of £32.8m plus Isco from Malaga though Calejon has gone to Napoli for a fee I haven't seen, their budget must be getting even up to their limit.France to me is a non starter for him regardless of money and Italian football deals wouldn't reach his value.
Paulio47 {Ed052's Note - We won't sign players to convince him to stay. He will leave, and RM is likely. Remember, Isco was 'cheap'}

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12 Jul 2013 12:49:10
I honestly think that the Higuain deal that Arsenal are dragging out is due to Liverpool requesting to take Higuain as part of any deal to sell Suarez. I would take Higuain and 25 million easily.

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Tbh mate I think 9 out of 10 Liverpool Fans would take Higuain & £20M - £25M all day! It would be hilarious if it were to happen as Arsenal wanted both players.

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I'd take him as a straight trade mate- not lacking THAT much in quality between them, and able to play a whole season unlike wee luis la cannibal

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12 Jul 2013 15:06:38
Suarez has been cut plenty of slack. Never thought I would live to see the day someone bought that pathetic excuse for a sob story.

In other news, Luis Suarez has just gone and told Uruguayan media that 5 pink elephants hang around Anfield. only when he's there alone.

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I`d take Higuain and Benzema and give `em £10 mill!

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12 Jul 2013 12:44:20
Hi Eds, what's the deal with Krisztian Adorjan? Will he make the first team this season or is he going on loan for more game time? Do you see him in the first team anytime soon? {Ed052's Note - I suspect he'll leave}

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I thought he was highly rated at Liverpool, I hope he does well for them and comes back stronger and better.

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Apparently he is joining groningen on loan (:

Jackoo

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Loan deal

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12 Jul 2013 12:35:42
Hey eds,

Is there any new on who we might be looking at instead of mickey now that he's moved to Dortmund? As you've said, I don't see eriksen coming. I think you mentioned perhaps jorginho but said you had not heard much.

Thanks, great site.

RedSam {Ed052's Note - Nothing at the minute. Patience is key. We are only 12 days in}

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12 Jul 2013 12:24:37
Hello eds
Im wondering why it seems that a lot is saying we r in for jorginho as a replacment for micky now we lost him. they are totally diffrent players! Jorginho is a central mid the likes of allen. which makes me wonder why are we intersted in him with so many cm's we have already! And I would like to know if we are being linked to any attacking mid at the moment because it seems it has gone complete silence?
Thanx a million

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Have to give to ya ed052 I think suarez
will go to madrid . I think it's a case of cash or cash plus player or players.

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12 Jul 2013 12:17:55
Eds, is Suarez not Madrids priority? I've seen reports of them trying to sell a couple of fringe players to raise cash for Suarez yet they've just signed Illarramendi for �38M? Thanks. {Ed052's Note - I expect a move to Madrid now}

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What has happened between RM and Suarez? I see you are convinced now that he will leave for RM and I wonder why, have they made bid or what?

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I agree with ed052! Illarramendi will most likely replace Alonso who is attracting strong interest from Galatasary, Now Madrid have opened up there Cheque book I expect us to finally receive an offer for Suarez but expect it to be a low offer of around £25M and a choice of players, hopefully Liverpool stand firm and say were not accepting anything less than £45M or what i'm hoping for £20M and Higuain which seems a bit ambitious but if you don't try/ask you'll never know!

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Ed do you expect a move from Madrid now or to madrid now?
Because yesterday your opinion was Suarez goeas to a rival in PL. {Ed052's Note - I wanted LS to go to a rival, but think Madrid will make a suitable move soon, to tie it up. Remember things change}

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12 Jul 2013 12:17:16
Just read that Liverpool have bid accepted for Eriksen and Alderweireld according to several reports.

Any eds heard anything concrete or a rumour?

Scuzz {Ed052's Note - No, those reports have been floating for a couple of months}

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Cheers Ed052

I had my doubts about believing the Ghanaian Liverpool Supporters Club for !

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I know there old reports but I wouldn't rule it out as there both stil available and would improve the 1st team especially if Skrtel & Suarez do leave as expected.

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12 Jul 2013 12:10:39
Suarez has three years left on his contract yes? I suggest he's told to shut his bloody mouth, get on with the next season and MAYBE next year we will consider letting him go. People say that the players have all of the power but I believe that if a club is brave enough then the pendulum can swing back the other way, look and Daniel Levy, I can't stand the guy but I do respect him as he takes no rubbish from anyone. Players like Suarez need to be reminded who the employer is here, all of this 'we hope everything will be ok' nonsense really really annoys me and the sooner our club grows a pair the better. Wether we think Rodgers will do a good job or not is irrelevant because the bottom line is that ANY club which continues to sell its best players will eventually struggle and will never be able to truly compete. To reiterate he has THREE years left on his deal so if its makes him unhappy or not we DON'T have to sell him, Suarez is many things but he's not a sulker so I think once told this is the way it is he will tow the line. Christ I wish I ruled the world.

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You've got my vote

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12 Jul 2013 12:05:20
The first pre-season game tomorrow versus Preston! Anyone one know what time the Kick-Off is? I hope there will be an online stream.

With Rodgers promising that all of the 4 new signings will be playing a part, it would be a good chance for an early look at them.

Th real AG

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The game is broadcast live on LFCtv and the official LFC website, kick-off is 3pm .

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It's a 3 o clock, well I hope so as that's my lad is going and that's what he says.

It's on lfc tv online so must be on others

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3pm mate

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3.00pm & it's on ESPN pal!

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I'm eager to see the new additions as well. BR said in an interview the other day that all 4 will get a run.

3pm BST. Streamed live through LFCtv.

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The preston v lfc game is on espn tomorrow. Kick off at 3pm.

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Sign up for LFC Online its £2.99 for the first 3 months and then £4.99 there after, they are showing all 6 games live!

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It's on ESPN

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Its not broadcast on LFCtv until 10.00am on Sunday morning. Just live on the website unfortunately.

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12 Jul 2013 11:54:45
Liverpool have begun negotiations with ajax to sign Erisken (tv)

LFCRedStars

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12 Jul 2013 11:42:25
Rogers again reiterating that suarez is not for sale and is in contact with him everyday.

Pushing the price up?

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Either that or doing all he can to convince him to stay.

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12 Jul 2013 11:33:33
Hi ed just wondering what do u now about Lloyd jones is their chance he will be used this season and what about jerome Sinclair {Ed052's Note - Both could gt a chance, but will probably establish themselves in the reserves}

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12 Jul 2013 11:19:56
For all those who fear Suarez leaving, well don't we will replace him just like any other player who wants to leave, we did it with Owen Torres and we will do it with Suarez if he leaves no one is bigger than our club, sure he will be a big loss but we will find another gem and one thing about Liverpool is we always have one of the best strikers in the world if you look back through the years and we will have many more so what ever happens life goes on andli Liverpool will go on, trust Brendan he will make us competitive again with or without Suarez.

Cheers

Des

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12 Jul 2013 11:58:07
More like ozil for Suarez + 30 mil

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In all them years when we had a top world forward we have struggled . maybe its time for a top team and not a top world player 11 beats 1 2 4 5 world stars a good team wins

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Top post mate

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Wishful thinkin my friend

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Yes exactly, we have always been good at making players, torres made his name with us, owen alonso etc. We sell and for profit as well. Whatever happens with suarez we'll be fine, jdog

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12 Jul 2013 11:28:05
Sanchez Eriksen and Papadopoulos are the 3 big signings FSG is after. Players to leave Skirtle Downing Assaidi Spearing Paceco.

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12 Jul 2013 10:52:11
Hi eds just a quick question there, a while back there was talks that Fulham were interested in a few of our players ( downing and a few of the younger lads on loan ) with the club apparently in discussions to be sold will this ultimately put a halt to all there transfer dealings . The reason I ask is I hope downing goes and they seemed to be one of the only clubs interested . Thanks {Ed023's Note - They had an interest yes and him going there wouldn't be a shock but I still believe Downing has a role to play in the squad}

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12 Jul 2013 11:30:10
Westham want him, their assistant manager is already talking him up!

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Why would you want him to go. he proved he can fight for his place. a lot of you on here need your heads cheacking. br is trying to build a squad. we have a lot of younger players that need the help of the likes of downing, johnson, stevie g, agger, so on. once the younger players prove them selfs then you sell. its a long season with a lot of games and we need a strong squad to see us through the season.
sj

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I agree with the ed Downing will stay he is a very good player to have in the squad we want to strengthen it not make it weaker! Fulham are apparently keen ob Coates for £5M

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Downing is a good player and it was only when Rogers had "a quiet word" in his ear he started to perform.

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12 Jul 2013 10:27:06
I guess there is possibly no chance and no interest from Liverpool. But how about Mario Mandzukic ed? He might be available after Pep moving there.

I would also love to get the other posters opinion on him.

Sunny {Ed002's Note - Nope.}

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12 Jul 2013 10:26:53
RDL made a very interesting point as regards Alberto vs Tello stas in Barca B and then went on to say that Tello had far superior stats in his limited 1st team appearances in the Barca first 11, perhaps the reason for this is purely down to playing with better players despite the opposition also being better.
I alaways remember an old Liverpool pl;ayer (can't remember who? could of been Ian Rush) saying he found it near impossible to hit top form for the stiffs and played 100% better in the 1st team.
So all the knockers on the signing of Alberto, it's always possible and likely for a gifted player to be 100% better given 1st team football alongside better players.

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We should have signed deloufou, he is much better than both

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Second poster, how could we? He wasn't for sale. So, I suppose you'd sign him on a loan deal, pushing our own (long term) youngsters down the pecking order for a year, when they also could use some first team action? Relax. The club's in great hands.

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Cheers, kidmillions. Deulofeu is another good example (thanks anonymous poster for mentioning him).

Alberto- 11 goals, 18 assists in 38 games

Deulofeu- 18 goals, 6 assists in 33 games

Should mention that 4 of Deulofeu's 18 were penalties as well.

So is Deulofeu that much better than Alberto? Time will tell but I just think for playing in the same squad against the same types of opposition, Alberto's stats are surely not awful by any stretch when compared to Deulofeu. My point is it just gets a bit annoying to hear about why we're not in for Tello/Deulofeu when arguably we've already secured a similar very good young player who could probably use our support more than our rubbishing him before he's even kicked a ball.

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Delefou is a bit special in that he can beat players and win games on his own. He will go to the top! He's not small neither being close to 6 foot.

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12 Jul 2013 10:20:27
Hi eds fellow reds just wanted to know who people think we will bring in after selling sourez will it be a wide man and let stur stay up front or possibly somone like benteke thoughts please cheers guys. DB

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I don't think so I think Bernard or Honda might be better in that department!

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12 Jul 2013 09:58:52
have we loooked at Leon Goretzka as a long term replacement for Gerrard? seems a great talent, just got a move to Schalke and think he will be one of the next big names to come out of Germany. Did we scout him prior to his move any chance of getting him in a year or 2 or do you think he'll end up at bayern or dortmund?

Dan Gleebles

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Leon just signed a 5 year deal with shalke.

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I know, asking if the eds know weather anyone at the club may consider him an option in a couple years time when Gerro retires {Ed002's Note - How can I possibly answer about what players Liverpool will buy in a couple of years time?}

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Unfortunately we won't be able to find another SG, although we did say that about Graeme Souness as well, however we already have a decent ( not perfect yet ) replacement in the squad - Jordan Henderson.

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Dont care what anyone says we never did fully replace Souness, Mcmahon etc were all great players but just like Souness we will never get another Gerrard ever again he is a one off.

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Toni Kross and Marco Reus is the closest thing that I have seen to Steven Gerrard. Very similar playing style. I would love them at Liverpool but it won't happen.

I agree with above poster. Jordon Henderson is next in place to replace Stevie G. He has shown a massive improvement recently and his work rate is tremendous. If he continues this attitude, he will be class.

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12 Jul 2013 09:57:12
suarez for ozil + 30m watch this space

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It will be a waste of time to watch this space.

The real AG

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Dont be silly

red father

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I have also herd this, Ancelotti feels ozil won't be utilised as much now they have isco.

don't listern to red father. his mum and dad are blues.

Mystic Greg

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Im watching and nothing seems to be happening.

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I wish that was true

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12 Jul 2013 09:53:51
Is anyone in for Marco Reus? Blaszcowski? Gundogan?

Not suggesting we are or that we could even get them if we wanted to! Just curious.

Thanks

REDsquirrell {Ed002's Note - There have been enquires from other clubs for all of them.}

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Reus has a release clause {Ed002's Note - Ignore it.}

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I suspect there are very few (if any) clubs who could offer Dortmund enough money for Reus. {Ed002's Note - It is them not wishing to sell and him not wishing to leave stopped any moves this summer.}

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12 Jul 2013 09:37:16
Just heard James Pearce has wrote a 'letter' or something, addressed to Luis Suarez.
Telling him to sort his situation out asap and not be treating the fans who love him with such contempt.

Brilliant; is right mate!

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James Pearce is in no way-shape-or-form a 'voice' of the Liverpool fan, and neither is the Manchester Echo.

I suggest you pick apart some of the patronising rubbish printed to see this.

This letter is a pathetic attempt and just to inflate his ego.

Most fans I know (including myself) are realists and understand that the situation will be dealt with shortly. We're not soft!!

Suarez will be sold for a cracking transfer fee; Suarez knows that, Liverpool Football club know that, the fans know that and even Pearce knows that. This is just premature balls what is written as all of us with a simple enough brain realise that when dealing with world class players, with numerous clubs interested for frightening prices that transfers don't just happen.

I'm bored of this now and I suggest he slips back into his hole.

By the way, not really relevant but this is the state of football when you are referring to a 30million bid from Arsenal as 'derisory'.

DaveyBootle

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This just means they start to play an train its a play on words to get you going!!

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Davey it really is derisory mate, why would we sell him for 30m? is Bale worth 55m more than Luis in your eyes? Lpool should not sell for less than 50m full stop.

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12 Jul 2013 09:35:07
BR : ". now over the next five weeks, we improve the team".

Good to hear, especially the word "improve".

So, if any of Agger, Skrtel or Suarez leave, who can we expect in?
Does anyone think we can do that on the cheap then?

The Juicer

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Maybe he means all the pre season training, and getting the New players bedded in
Grimsby red

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After that statement I'm expecting better players than the people who will be leaving! It will be interesting to see if it's just media spin or they will back up his statement!

Waro

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12 Jul 2013 12:44:05
media spin

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12 Jul 2013 09:33:28
Why does Liverpool talk about wanting be top 4 then look sell are best player to one of teams in are league where never going get another 20plus goals striker any time soon

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IMO it doesn't matter where he goes as long as we get top money.

As we have seen with Torres and a few other players who have left our club the grass isn't always greener, tbh I doubt he will have a better season than he had last year ever again, he's good but not that good.

If he does go to another English club it will sum up the sort of person he really is.

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Who says Liverpool are looking to sell Suarez to another team in the same league? There's nothing Liverpool can do to stop English clubs bidding - doesn't mean they will sell to them. We got another 20 goal striker when we sold Torres in Suarez - I'm sure we'll get another - 100% Red

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I think this meant to say "Why do Liverpool talk about wanting to be a top 4 team and then look to sell their best player to another team in the same league? We are never going to get another 20 plus goals a season striker anytime soon".
Firstly, it is quite clear that Liverpool do not want to sell their star striker - to anyone never mind a rival from the same league. Secondly, the price 'if' he were to be sold would reflect his value. Thirdly, the money, I am fairly certain, considering what has been said in the past few days, would be reinvested (and I for one am not prepared to suggest it won't be until proven otherwise), and thirdly, I thank Sturridge has started his career (as a striker) at Liverpool with a fairly strong performance - I believe he has a higher scoring rate so far than anyone else.
So, I would suggest that it would be nice for people to make posts that are both readable (i.e. using the right words in an order which might just make grammatical sense) and are with a slight basis in fact and don't contain conjecture which is not borne out by either the past actions of the club and its stated objectives.

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Haha never going to get another 20 goal striker.oh lord sturridge hit ten quicker than god himself sturridge providing he's fit and in our system with his selfishness is going to get 20 plus next season without sweating borini is going to get 12 providing he plays

jimlahey tps

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12 Jul 2013 09:25:31
During the past two days I have been led to believe, by an acquaintance known to an 'important' scout carrying out work for LFC, that Liverpool are likely to 'seriously' look to push ahead with a move for Atletico Mineiro's highly rated Benard. The figures being bandied about are in the 25m-27m euro region.

Not certain as to its veracity, but thought I would sure anyway.
Personally I do not see it happening. But I guess we can hope.

Cheers

Cunon

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He has a release clause of 20M Euros

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12 Jul 2013 09:18:14
Here we go again more posts about us missing out on players that haven't even gone anywhere or players we haven't even shown interest in, give it a couple of days and when Crouch signs for QPR there will prob be posts about us missing out on him as well.

BR and FSG know exactly what they are doing and them and them only know what players they really want and not just players the press say we are after, also people have got very short memories moaning when we signed Carroll because we payed well over the top and then when L'pool refuse to sign players for extortionate money and wages them same supporters moan because the club isn't trying hard enough to sign them.

It wasn't long ago we was on the verge of financial disaster and know we have owners who are doing their best to get rid of debt and make us financially stable they are in the wrong, those critics need to grow up!

Richiered

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Danny Simpson signed for Qpr, good signing for them and on a free - can't believe we missed out ;)

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Talking of short memories, BR and FSG didn't have a clue last summer when we "missed out" on dempsey or any other attacking player. So excuse us feeling a little weary that we may not sign the right first team players.

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Number 334 leaves amsterdam later today

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We didn't miss out on Dempsey. We refused to pay the asking price that was wanted. What is so hard to understand?
By the way I'm sure Spuds are happy with Dempsey don't you?

MUSHROOM

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Mushroom seriously mate your spouting off a load of guff mate. They wouldn't pay 8m for an experienced pro and looked at age rather than his talent, that's the problem at lfc atm.

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12 Jul 2013 09:07:34
Alderweireld is on his way to Norwich for 8M

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£8m to get to Norwich, bit expensive.

How's he getting there, Space Shuttle?

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Quality response :-)))

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Liverpool and others were quoted 15m and now he is going to Norwich for 8m? why make this crap up, you read this guff somewhere didn't you and posted it like your itk.

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12 Jul 2013 08:58:17
Hi Eds and fellow reds. Interestin to read what's on people s minds. One point for all not sure the number belive could be 25.But there is a max on the number of players that can be used in leaque an so we must offload first not just to bring in dosh but to free up places. Once that's done I can see cb dm upfront covered. I get the age thing but can see bent maybe coming proven aswel the same mistake as last augest won't be repeated.

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12 Jul 2013 08:47:14
Is it true Everton have outbid us for Jorginho?
Is anyone concerned that we seem to be missing out on a lot of players like MK Alderweid Ilori and if this is true Jorginho
I am not entirely sure about Jorginho and where he plays but we need to be sending a strong message to all the other clubs and after last summer I'm not sure this is the way to go about it

Thanks eds great job with the site

YNWA {Ed052's Note - Seeing neither Alderwierld nor Ilori have moved yet (same as Jorginho) how can we have 'missed out'. And we haven't missed out on Mickey - we just didn't pay over the top. If we don't get Ilori, it'll be for the same reason. We don't even have interest in A at the minute, so how can we miss out on a player we have no interest in?}

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This has got to be a joke. Why would we miss out on people we haven't bid for! Except MK which ed explained. How can people be this niave and stupid?

London red

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Kopite, you comment often enough that I would suspect you read other people's comments too so you should have noticed yes some other fans are concerned. Each and every time loads of fans defend the club and ask for patience, I'm surprised by your post.

Anyway I'm not concerned and I don't think overpaying for players is the way the club should operate - that's the kind of message you don't want to send out. E.g. If the club bombed in with a bid of £12-14m for Alderweirld to blow everyone else away and go here we go we are Liverpool and we get our targets - would that make you happier?

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The mentality of some fans is completely laughable. You want to spend big money on players so we don't "miss out" and when the club did, Carroll for example, the club gets slated for spending too much.
Next you moan that we "missed out" on players like Michu and Benteke when they were cheap and unknown, yet when we sign cheap unknown players, without seeing them play, you still slate the club.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing but you need to be realistic. Some expensive signings will flop and some cheap signings will shine.
I am happy that the club put a value on a player they want and will not go above that. There are thousands of players so cheaper alternatives will be plentiful.

MUSHROOM {Ed023's Note - Exactly, great post}

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12 Jul 2013 00:33:22
Ed052 I went on a wee bit of a rant earlier please except my sincere aploigies.
BarryinLouth {Ed052's Note - Its fine, I didn't know you had done.}

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12 Jul 2013 08:02:50
Eds, what would u say to bendtner coming in on the deal with money in exchange for Suarez?
If his wages weren't big, I think I would take it as given the chance, he's only 25 so can still improve and learn and would be good as a back up striker if sturridge and borini keep getting injured!

Jimerny cricket {Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath.}

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Are you joking man?

The real AG

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You must be kidding

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I'd add an extra 10mil on the price if they had the cheek to offer us bendtner in part exchange

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12 Jul 2013 09:38:09
MY GOD, people should stop playing those rubbish games already. At least stop comparing them to reality.
Bendtner is complete rubbish at best. the whole club should be sacked if we agree to something that horrible! LOL

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I would rather try bring Heskey back at least his head would fit inside Anfield

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Bendtner is like a worse version of Ngog.

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I'd give them 25 mil and suarez not to have bentner

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Why would we want bendtner he is the only person to score a 10 on a ego scale. meaning he thinks he is messi but even better.

Proof

One of the categories is called 'self perceived competence, ' i.e. how good the player himself thinks he is, '' Crevoisier told Swedish magazine Offside. ''On a scale up to 9, Bendtner got 10! We have never seen that before. Pat Rice [Arsenal's assistant manager] was sitting next to me and couldn't stop laughing.

test was taken by Arsenal's sport psychologist Jacques Crevoisie

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12 Jul 2013 06:37:26
I think Liverpool should sell Suarez to Madrid and try and get Gonzalo Higuain out of any deal.

Higuain is a top top drawer player who scores goals for fun, and would suit Liverpool FC style of play.

Plus it would pee off all them deluded gooners who think they can get both Suarez and Higuain in an Gooner shirt, yeah right dream on.

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And what if Higuain doesn't want to come to LFC?

The real AG

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12 Jul 2013 08:57:30
If only Higuain would join us. That would be a massive signing for us and 1 that can go straight into the starting XI. If only it could be true. Damn shame!

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The only player I would want in a player plus cash deal with RM would be Varane. Only problem is RM wouldn't sell and he wouldn't come.

MUSHROOM

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12 Jul 2013 15:40:31
.1 Bale is significantly younger than Luis and has a reputation as a decent human being.

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12 Jul 2013 05:57:46
Haven't heard any news about Dennis Praet in a long time?
Is this talented young chap still a potential target?

Red7. {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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12 Jul 2013 05:43:26
I have been supporting Liverpool for 40 years and am always very excited and optimistic at this time of year, this year I am very alarmed at the lack of ambition of both the owners and the manager we are sign player nobody as even heared of till they were link with us.
The owners need to back the manager with some serious finance if they want to compete for a champions league place, we are already light years behind the top 4 and they are investing big time but they won't no ambition this is going to be a long long season top 10 at best which is an insult to the fans

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I am sure many in England had heard of Konchesky when he signed a few seasons back. Were you this slarmed back then when we had Konchesky, N'Gog, Jovanovic, Poulsen etc?

Aspas, who narrowly missed out on Spain's Confed Cup squad, Alberto, who was a player Barcelona considered, while Mignolet and Toure have been playing in the PL the players you haven't heard before?

It just tells me your football knowledge is poor.

The real AG

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The Real AG, you seem to be the only one talking some sense on here at the moment.

If they don't cost over £20million people think they are rubbish without even seeing them play. Yes it would be nice to have a superstar name but we need to build the team again as our lack of depth was a massive problem for us last year. Hopefully a couple m ore players will come in to improve the starting 11 but our overall squad is better then last year

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Are all these moaning no name posters actually Liverpool fans or are they just Utd or Everton fans taking the mick out of us? Good job if it is but serious effort being put in there's so many of these

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You're an insult to the fans. Get behind the team.

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What amazes me the most are these "I have been supporting Liverpool for 35 years, but this is the worst window ever" kind of post. If they have been supporting the club for that long, they should know that the last four years, especially under Hodgson and atleast 3 years under Rafa, recently, we were very poor in the transfer market.

The real AG

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The real AG is spot on, we already have and have had superstar names and yet 20yrs plus without winning the Premier.
So let's just give Rodgers a chance to build something (I think he's doing quite well up tp now) so let's just leave him to it.

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I am looking foward to this season as its all to play for, all the changes at our rivals ie moyes pelligrini jose and all that goes with it means for once we have a little bit of stability advantage, arsenal and spurs are in the mix as well so let the battle begin, I just want us to improve and compete for top 4 anything else is a bonus, if suarez goes he goes as long as we reinvest the money on quality players I think we must back rodgers and our team . ps, I would prefer not to sell suarez to one of our premier league rivals as he would enhance any squad .

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With respect The Real Ag. I think you will find Liverpool finished higher that season with Jovanovic, Poulsen etc than the 2 seasons after.

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Parky how dare you call him a disgrace to the fans, he has supported the club for over 40 years and has expressed an opinion, the problem at lfc these days is the sheep like you who tow the club line under the guise of loyalty, never tell anyone they are a disgrace for having an opinion as it is you who needs to get a grip.

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Heard all this crap before AG, and well we were rebuilding under every manager since evans and we still haven't built a team to compete so what makes you think now is any different yawn, your posts are all boring and towing the fsg line wake up lad, and to all the rest of you stop licking his arse its embarrassing.

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I can just assume the last poster is the first could be wrong.throwing money at a problem is not going to fix it at all.and for a guy who has supported the club for so long.why is your post sounding like it came from a 16 year old.the money Chelsea have spent on there small bit of success is wrong the money city has spent on there even smaller bit.would you like us to get titles that way?not me.the ag is spot on.also stop starting posts with how long you have been supporting the team its childish.all it means is you have seen more success than us.yet were on here hoping for better times.your here moaning.bit spoilt in your younger years with trophies etc
jimlahey tps

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Why do people keep on taking the bait from these mancs/blue noses or whoever they are.

Wisen up FFS! These gimps are making the most of you's sound like complete fools.

Looking through most of the posts its obvious they're not LFC fans.

Sharpen up boys.

Shmickles

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AG you need to get in the real world were buying second rated players and you your little army of followers are falling for the trick Aspas will never play at international level for Spain he has never represented them at any level.

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Aspas has never played at international level for Spain, so he must be awful? Ridiculous statement. Perhaps once he's played a season or two for us we will be the stage that gets him in del Bosque's line of sight?

Bit like saying Coutinho is pants since he only has 1 senior level cap for Brazil.

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I posted a reply to the anonymous plantpot, who keeps licking his own arse, a while ago, but the Eds have decided not to post, no problem Eds, but if my reply was slightly abusive, it was only in response to that particular plantpot and his personic comments.

the real AG

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12 Jul 2013 21:02:35
op, you say we're miles behind top four, that's not true if we had of had more consistency last season we would have done better. we strealed man city around the place and they came second. the squad needs tweaking that's it. don't equate ambition with money. fsg or Rodgers shouldn't have there pants pulled down just to seem ambitious. in there short time here they have shown more desire to make Liverpool a self sustainable club than them last pair of persons.

Realistically unless we are shareholders or investors we have no business discussing finances. I understand why Ed002 tells all people to ignore the money aspect of it

Also, just because you have supported them for 4 decades doesn't mean you have been a model fan. sounds like you would have spent the last 23 of them "worried". seniority doesn't automatically make you a better fan.

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12 Jul 2013 23:51:34
@The Irish Rover - do you think those players were good signings? His point was those were bad transfer windows, I agree with that.

And no name on about licking ag's arse well only kidmillions agreed with him between his post and yours so maybe you should relax yourself

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13 Jul 2013 00:30:07
@ The real AG. how can you just claim that Aspas has just narrowly missed out on the spain squad? On what facts do you base this statement?

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12 Jul 2013 05:28:54
If Madrid want Suarez then pay 20 million + higuain all teams are happy

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12 Jul 2013 09:41:13
I would most def NOT be happy with that.
Get the £ 35 million + Jese Rodriguez.
(He was spains U20 best player in the world cup in my opinion)

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I agree, they get Suarez who wants the move and we get Higuain who is world class obviously depending on weather or not he wants the move.

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12 Jul 2013 04:55:31
Erik Lamela (Roma) and Bernard Duarte (Atletico Mineiro) to replace Luis Suarez.

Also expect a bid for a defensive midfielder this summer.

As for defenders, my pick would be Micah Richards who is out of favour at City.

I still think Reina will be off so BR might sign another goalkeeper as well, to keep Mignolet on the alert, perhaps Alex McCarthy or Thomas Sorensen.

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Suarez will fetch around £40M - £50M

Lamela = £25M
Bernard = £15M

Id like us to try for Gustavo as he can play various positions and cover CB, LB as well as CDM all areas we need cover so a move certainly makes sense apparently Munich are keen to move him on so a fee of around £12M may well get him.

Im more than happy with Kelly, Wisdom & McLaughlin to provide cover at the back regardless of weather or not Skrtel & Coates leave, they are all good enough and if we keep buying then what's the point in the academy?

McCarthy would be good choice as back up to Mignolet as Reina is sure to leave, but how much will Reading demand for him. Also we have Danny Ward who is a very good young keeper so he could step up as back up in my view.

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12 Jul 2013 03:35:48
Hi guys, hope you are all well and looking forward to the new season.

Regarding the Suarez situation, I hope will sell him quickly because while none of us can question his fantastic ability as a player he seems to be really lacking respect for our club.

I understand that champions league football is important to player and I really do believe that if he went to the club at the end of the season and behind closed doors explaining his desire for a move then this could have gone a lot better.

He has done great things for us on the pitch and I understand that what he did to Ivanovic and evra were wrong. We knew when buying him he was hot headed and flawed like many greats are.

He has gone on to repeatedly disrespect the club and has spat in the face of all the players, staff and fans who stood shoulder to shoulder with him and backed him to the hilt.

I remember many people saying when they heard his remarks about being hounded by the media they had little sympathy for him and I agree with them on that front. Why has he then instructed his agent to contact English clubs on his behalf.

I agree with some of the Eds who say that it wouldn't be a bad thing if he was sold to another English club because no matter what crap he spouts about loving Liverpool he clearly doesn't and he does not have the right character to be a Liverpool player because you are not just representing this great club on the pitch but are representing it all of the time in your actions and words as well as your behaviour off the pitch.

I just have a quick question for you guys. Why are top clubs like Liverpool, United, Arsenal etc. almost always quoted more for a player than so called smaller clubs like Fulham or Swansea for example?

Thanks a million to all the Eds for their tireless work and I hope you all know how greatful we all are for your hard work and honesty.

Hope all my fellow reds are well and I look forward to hopefully a great season ahead. Take care guys.

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12 Jul 2013 08:50:10
Fulham and that ilk are quoted less for a number of reasons, one being that during the negotiation process clubs will look at comparable previous player transfers to/ from both clubs.

For example, Liverpool would potentially point to the transfer of Torres to Chelsea if attempting to agree a similar fee for Suarez due to goal-tally, age, wage etc.

This is only one factor, and as to continue with the example, Torres and Suarez vary along terms of injury history, frequency of bans, and so forth.

Also, have a look on craigslist at how many items are quoted "�X OBO". Some clubs are simply willing to spend less, or in less need, have other alternatives or more urgent priorities.

There is also the issue that some clubs cannot afford to wait for other clubs to bid for player X contingent on whether or not the transfer of player why happens as they may wish to have business done with expediency.

It is much more complicated than all of this and much more goes in to the negotiation process than I mention here, which is why deals can take significant time to be agreed upon.

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Why the hell would we want to sell Suarez to a team we need to replace to get into the champions league.
Just look what RVP did for United at the gooners expense.
Sell Suarez but only to a team outside PL

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Selling RVP to United did nothing at Arsenal's expense. Arsenal got top 4 and another club won the league. That happened pretty much every year RVP was there (I think he was a squad player ion maybe one title winning season at Arsenal).
Torres to Chelsea or Alonso to Madrid - I know which of those I'd change.

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12 Jul 2013 02:48:29
Benteke, Eriksen, Alderwerield, will be brought in. We have money from FSG still untouched and will get a hefty fee from Suarez when he goes. Rodgers spoke about bringing in players to improve the first team from here on out and these three are available and on our radar. All three would drastically improve us and be ready to play immediately. A left back will also be considered. Rodgers and his team have several players on their lists and are actively working the market. We all come on here and read these rumours everyday and when nothing new happens we think the club isn't doing anything. Have a little faith! They are working their socks off and by the end of the transfer window our club will be very strong in terms of first team quality AND depth. They know what they are doing!

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Make that Benteke, Sakho and Gorjinho

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12 Jul 2013 01:18:27
Would Suarez going to Arsenal be so bad? I would be ok with it if they gave us Walcott and a bucket of money, or perhaps Walcott and Cazorla.

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Did any of you actually watch Walcott after he signed his contract? He was invisible on the pitch.

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Oxlade Chamberlain is going to be a superb player for years to come, i'd like Liverpool to get him and give him much more games than Arsenal have done. He's a Liverpool fan, or was in his youth. His Father was the deciding factor in going to Arsenal, he saw Walcott and a few other youngsters seeming to get chances but look at Liverpool under Rodgers, you're lucky if you play after 30 years old, so I think he'd be happy to leave CL football, for now for the chance of playing regularly with a World Cup coming rapidly upon us.

Sterling, Ibe and Oxlade Chamberlain all with the ability to interchange, float behind a striker. I'd take Oxlade and a chunk of cash.

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Why the l**b would Arsenal give us Walcott and Carzola? Unlike us there actually trying to add quality to there existing squad, we on the other hand will lose Suarez and buy a load of tosh like Aspas and Toure

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It would be bad in my opinion.

The real AG

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Ox and Wilshere for Suarez is the only deal!

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12 Jul 2013 01:10:07
People need to stop thinking about these gazebo signings. We need to be signing benteke from last year for 8 mil rather than now for 20 odd mil. If we had signed him last year for 8 mil you all would've been pissing and moaning like you are now about Aspas and Luis Alberto. let's get behind these lads and hopefully one of them will be a 20 mil signing by the end of the season which can only be good for the club. I for one will not forget our moto and let these two lads walk alone.

YNWA

shanedub

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At least I'm not alone just cus we don't pay 20 mil on players doesn't mean there no good benteke, coutinho are prime examples and after next year luis Alberto will be another damn this boy can play

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Good point

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I agree but at the same point, it's hard to take the risk to wait a season and see if they come good, especially a crucial season such as this one. This could be a huge season in seeing who shapes the top four and sets the standards for the coming seasons. Changes are coming all around and if we can steal a march on atleast a couple of our rivals, our future would definitely be looking very bright. I think pretty much everyone in the footballing world sees the importance in the coming season.

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I totally agree with ya man. Buy low, sell high- basic business. And WHEN you win, it is that much sweeter. Everyone complains when we don't drop millions on players, but the business has to get out of the red or else there is no club to support.

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Just trust me when I say Liverpool have plenty of plans to get out of the red. You seriously do not have to worry about that anymore.

Where will the money come from? Advertising, media, and the main revenue stream being us the fans.

Anyone streaming the live online friendlies? Just imagine if that goes global with a brand that sells.

Do the maths boys and girls.

Alfie

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Excellent point.

The real AG

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12 Jul 2013 09:44:22
Yep, Luis Alberto rocked the Spanish 2nd division, a league much stronger than the Belgian league.
Just as strong as the Dutch league.
NOO?

Watch the spainsh dominance at U20, U19 and U18 levels. All players from secunda. Even spains U21 which is on paper better than Englands first team, all of the players in that team played a lot of games in secunda

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Ya totally agree, and good luck chance of a double this year Shane!

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12 Jul 2013 01:04:58
Well eds how are ye getting on?

Hearing all this talk about Jorginho I was just wondering where ye could see him fitting in the team as I have never seen him play is he back up for Gerrard or an CAM and would he be a good addition.

Also could you envisage us going back for Papa as personally I think he would be the answer to our defensive issue. He would be our Vidic.

By the way I see Ed002 called it right with Callejon to Napoli.

Bulmer {Ed001's Note - I thought he was a defensive midfielder?}

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Ed001 he's played all over the midfield for Verona according to all the reports stating our interest.

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12 Jul 2013 00:20:41
please please please can we just get suarez sold asap I think we have to do it before he due to return to us as I can see it having such a negative effect on the team while preparing for new season its a known fact if a team want him they have to pay 40 mill or no talks so just tell the clubs who want him 40 mill or whatever cash and players just put him up for sale and sell him u never know we may get more than the 40 mill if psg get involved so do it sooner before these teams get there players in quite frankly doesn't bother me where he goes as long as he isn't with us he is not fit to ever wear our shirt again the likes of shankly, and paisley would turn in there graves at the disrespect suarez has shown the club his team and the fans after the constant backing he has been given its not the fact he wants to leave its the manor he doing it makes torres look like a choir boy yes I said choir good riddance

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There doing there very best. Won't be long now I can't see him being a Liverpool player by the 21st!

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I wonder if United are saying the same about Rooney?

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11 Jul 2013 23:44:14
Hi Eds, with BR stating that he would like to bring in a new defender and attacker, is there anyone that you know Liverpool have a concrete interest in that is not already being discussed (Eriksen/Papa/Aldewiereld etc)?

Thanks {Ed002's Note - No. Every player in the world has been mentioned - there are none left.}

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Ahaa fine fair enough :)

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12 Jul 2013 20:27:20
Haha Ed002, legendary banter mate

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11 Jul 2013 23:10:52
If we can just win our first game of the season v Stoke 12.45 kick off. We can go top of the league:-)) at least until 5 o-clock.

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Well, If we win 6 Nil we will probably stay top for a week at least.

Patpoon

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How about a 5-0 drubbing and be there for a week

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How about we then carry on winning and win the league as we are Liverpool not west brom

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11 Jul 2013 23:10:46
Reading from The Echo about our interest in Bernard. Any truth in these eds? I don't usually pay attention to paper reports but The echo are normally pretty accurate?! Thanks for your time {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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So Ed's u always say RTP means 'Really Top Priority" lol.
Red_canon.

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11 Jul 2013 20:56:29
What's going on with De Jong Eds (Siem that is)? {Ed002's Note - Nothing involving a transfer at this time.}

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