Liverpool Banter Archive June 12 2013

12 Jun 2013 22:44:03
IF what Suarez said in his latest interview is true, the incident in Manchester then I really don't blame him for wanting to leave. Tbh if I was in his shoes and even being a huge fan of the club I would leave if it meant happiness for my wife and children.

PakRed

Yeah, not like he would do stupid things in Spain and get hounded by the media there. Oh wait he did in Holland to?

Sick of Suarez and his interviews. It is one long propaganda campaign. Does he think all Liverpool fans are as stupid as he is?

Get the transfer over with, and get rid of him.

Perhaps he should stop acting like a fool and biting people then? I have a sneaking suspicion perhaps then the journos and general public would leave him alone?

Agreed Fensh this whole thing about wife and child is just a way of trying to leave without burning bridges but many Liverpool fans are seeing through it with the exception of a few. I'd rather he just be open about it he isn't going to stay and he doesn't want to so let him go and let's move on no point in trying to keep someone unhappy at the club after it was his own immaturity that lead him to the position he's in being hounded by the media.

He is gone once he puts official transfer in as lfc do not want to be the ones seen to break the bond and the fans will see it is suarez who wants out and because of this he should not get any money from lfc in any deal for him. please tell me any one in his position who would go to manchester to get photos taken after the evra, biting and being a lfc player was it just an other bit of provocation from him or did it even happen who knows but what I know is we will miss a fab player but not all that goes with him.
red mick tag

If it meant happiness for his wife and children, he should have stopped biting people and abusing.

The real AG

Don't go to Manchester.

Firstly, because it's chocker with Utd supporters.

Secondly, It's Manchester.

He should really know better.

DaveyBootle

DaveyBootle I would say Manchester is chocker full of City Supporters not united Supporters ha-ha-ha

He only has himself to blame he bit the man nobody made him do it

After the evra situation I seen suarez in Manchester airport in was coming from Dublin on a weekend away we got a picture with him so on so on but why not go to John lennon airport we were playing new castle away that week just wondering why he goes to Manchester

12 Jun 2013 22:18:52
The person I feel most sorry for in the whole Suarez saga i'd Brendan. Hegets Luis firing goals on a consistent basis, gets the team playing fluid football, makes a couple of shrewd signings and just when its looking up Suarez wants out. If (or I should say when he leaves) i'm sure Brendan will use the money wisely and sign an adequate replacement that will slot into his system. And please whoever signs can we at leasr give them a chance to play for Liverpool before everyone blasts them!

12 Jun 2013 21:59:15
With LFC bringing in at least 6 new players and with at least 4 of those players ending up in the first team and with some of them being foreign who thinks that willl help us to get a fast start?

If they get in early full preseason I do but also we can play the team we finished with without to many changes and slowly blend the rest in

12 Jun 2013 21:53:30
Hey, I have a confession to make.
The Begovic 72 hours rumour was from me:D
I just thought this place needed a bit of amusement, and this Ash guy is clearly not 'itk'.
So, I'm sorry If I offended you, Ash, I'd suggest making a log-in account.
:D Also, sorry to the Ed's. I know you guys work hard, and I suppose me posting fake rumours doesn't help.
Please post this Ed's, I don't want Ashley getting any more stick.

12 Jun 2013 21:48:00
Hi eds, with toure, Aspas and Alberto looking near enough done deals, how many more signings do you expect Liverpool to make this summer?

Thanks {Ed030's Note - I think 2 or 3 more maybe. }

You expect Ilori, Papa and Mkhitaryan? {Ed030's Note - and maybe another unexpected signing. }

We will seriously have some depth if or when suarez does leave there is always a silver lining

Are you hinting Ed030 that Liverpool will sign Ed002 as a fly half for the team.

If you are I expect a full write up on it to appear in the Mirror in the next 72hrs.

K79

Ooh now that comment will really put the stick in the hornets nest Ed030! Do you know something we don't old chap?
In Ed030 we trust ;p {Ed030's Note - It was just an opinion mate. }

12 Jun 2013 21:32:22
Theres lots of reports that we have a strong interest in henrik mkrtchyan and we are willing to offer £22million, just wondering if this is true? and if we have the money to do this? Think he would be a great addition!

12 Jun 2013 21:12:55
26 year old Luis Suarez has given 2 and 1/2 seasons to Liverpool (that's like 10 dog years)

Su�rez represented Uruguay in the 2010 World Cup he played an important role in Uruguay's 4th place finish and scored some great goals. Everyone thought he would move after the world cup.

In January he took a sideways move £22.8 million to Premier League club Liverpool. After 2 and half seasons and a two massive wage raises it is time for him to leave again. Going to club with some ambition and intention to play in the champions league.

"On 31 May 2013, Su�rez said that he would seeking an exit from Liverpool in the summer, citing the English media's intrusion into his private life as the reason for wanting to leave"

12 Jun 2013 21:41:35
Just cus he bit Ivanovic doesn't mean he works in dog years ;)

YNWAdam

12 Jun 2013 21:43:47
Reading this pointless post has cost me 6 hrs (dog hrs) off my life.

Red Stu

The post was pointless until it prompted the above replys, brilliant

Psicosiss

12 Jun 2013 20:41:13
Liverpool are going to buy messi and clear his tax bill as part of the deal!

He actually did it to force a move to Liverpool.

LFC4LIFE

Serious!? I would be so happy if that happened

Yeh, serious. It's all over a site.

Messi going to Tottering - well they helped 'arry make his tax out problem disappear

He is going to move to monaco where he doesn't need to pay tax

12 Jun 2013 20:22:19
Hi eds and fellow reds

Is there any interest in lukaku?
Proven scorer in the prem
Big. strong and is a beast.
Hed be worth every penny

Redkj {Ed030's Note - It looks likely he will stay at Chelsea. }

12 Jun 2013 20:09:24
Not posted for a while and expect a barrage of abuse for the following.

Suarez will not return to Melwood in light of comments made over the last few days.

A deal "apparently" has been struck with Madrid with a formal offer to be expected around the 13th July. As expected, this will transform via a formal transfer request from Suarez as per the Torres deal.

Ed's. I'm more than happy to text the info I have. Maybe you can verify this, you obviously have my contact details.

Nicky D

No offence but when you put the day the formal offer will be made, you're spouting nonsense.

Although it does seem he's heading to madrid.

Davey Sulls

This is based on a scam email from Ian Ayres office.

Luis suarez and ronaldo should make for a good combo

The second poster nailed it. Scam!

Nicky D

Maybe Ian Ayres is trying to engineer the move for Suarez's. lol (normally it's the agent)

It must be annoying for Brendan Rodgers. When he thought he had the perfect front line. The best player is off. So he never gets to see what they will perform like together.

12 Jun 2013 19:59:30
Heard some rumours about Mohamed Salah.
Does Liverpool have any interest in him? {Ed030's Note - Doubt it. }

12 Jun 2013 20:37:20
I think he is not ready for the big leagues yet, he should spend one more season at Basel.
If not he will probably go to Italy or Germany.

Malak

12 Jun 2013 19:23:55
Do any of the Eds know which teams "Had offers" for Suso? And if they were for Loan or Transfer? {Ed030's Note - I don't know which teams but i presume they would be loan deals. }

12 Jun 2013 19:38:14
Any chance a poster could upload the fake Ayre e-mail to Dodgy Sightings? I haven't got Twitter and would be interested to see how far some saddo has gone to get in the paper.

JFT 96

JP

12 Jun 2013 20:02:05
Yeah me too. I don't have twitter so would be funny :)

Malak

The said saddo has done a very good job. So good that Mirror ran the story and LFC had to issue a statement on it.

The real AG

12 Jun 2013 19:34:13
Several sources suggesting that a bid for henrik m is imminent regardless of suarez all because of a carrol moving a step closer to completion so says d gold! Hope so much this is true looks class

Same has been said about Suarez before Torres handed in a transfer request. Suarez is good as gone.

12 Jun 2013 19:20:07
Real Madrid want to sign Suarez but not until the final day of the transfer window so he will have served most of his ban in England. Liverpool need to have a plan in place to ensure we get the replacement ready to sign at the final hour.

His ban only applies in the EPL.

It does not. Under UEFA rules, the ban would transfer to La Liga games only.

12 Jun 2013 19:56:20
That makes no sense, weather we served his ban in England or Spain makes no difference, either way be playing so what's the point. It'll be smartet to have him training with the Real Team while he serves out his ban rather than be in england

12 Jun 2013 20:20:27
Real will easily upheld his ban if they buy him. And I mean easily same as we did when dutch FA sanctioned the ban but our FA upheld it for us, spain FA will do the same for real, as they have so much power in world football forget spain whose goverment are in madrid`s pocket.

It makes sense in that Liverpool will have more league games than Madrid before the window shuts therby meaning he will miss less of Madrids games.

Rubbish. Probably the biggest pile of poo posted today.

Your school holidays are enjoyable I see.

The real AG

His ban does not apply in Spain, not heard of Joey Barton? You know scouse lad got into a bit of bother against man city? Did his ban in the premier league stop him playing in France? Answers on a postcard.

I'm sure Joey Barton couldn't play for a while 1st though yano mate?
Not havin' a pop, but think I remember reading it in the BEEB website (that he was still banned)?

Why bring Joey Barton in to prove a point? He tried to sign for a non league team who played 6 games before Marseille started their season. do your homework. You too AG. Slate me if he leaves before the last day, you watch. {Ed008's Note - Actually Joey Barton's ban continued in France he even had to serve an extra 1 game suspension aswell.

Why not leave a name then OP? Or are you too much a wimp to do it?

I will surely point this out when Suarez leaves before the last day.

The real AG

12 Jun 2013 19:08:07
Hi eds great site, you guys do an awesome job! Just wondered if Aubemyang of St Ettiene could be an option? Looks like the real deal, perfect replacement for luis! What are your thoughts eds?

LFC erroll {Ed030's Note - I don't see him signing for Liverpool but he is attracting interest from Fiorentina, Manchester City, Chelsea, Manchester United, Zenit St Petesburg, Newcastle, Aston Villa, Spurs and PSG. }

12 Jun 2013 18:48:41
Heung-Min Son is looking likely to join Bayern Leverkusen for around £10m.

He certainly has the potential to become world class and will be one to watch within the next few years.

Would have liked to see him at Liverpool.

Red Lee

Good but never going to be world class

13 Jun 2013 09:24:20
No name, how on earth do you know he is not going to be world class?
Do you have a crystal ball to show 3- 4 years ahead in time? NOO?
Then stop talking out of your arse! It stinks.
The amount of interest in this lad Son goes a long long way to show how highly rated he is and that he has the potential to be worldclass!

Malak

12 Jun 2013 18:34:17
Hi eds think its time we let suarez go to real madrid he doesent wanna stay I would take modric an 20m if that is possible

Modric wouldn't want to join Liverpool

He know he won't get in our team next season. ;-)

12 Jun 2013 18:18:02
Suarez going to Madrid! {Ed030's Note - I hear Malaga and Ibiza are a lot better holiday destinations. }

12 Jun 2013 18:14:42
hello eds any chance that rastatic of seville would join us he was speaking highly of the club the otherday and seems certain 2 leave seville/? {Ed030's Note - Players do that all the while mate just trying to attract more interest in him }

12 Jun 2013 17:56:30
Has anybody seen the email that's been leaked and is it real? Thanks lukie {Ed030's Note - I doubt it is real mate. }

What e-mail? can you please post the link {Ed030's Note - It will be fake anyway mate. }

Where can I read this e-mail {Ed030's Note - Type 'ayre email' in on twitter. }

12 Jun 2013 17:43:35
some people here have no idea who actually looks at these pages. I mentioned couple of months back that I was at a charity do with some ex players and we joked abt some of the rumours and banter people have here and I took out my phone and we had a right laugh at the speculation of who we might or might not buy.

my latest run in was with an ex keeper of ours and an ex defender and we spoke at length abt what would make lfc a better team for the coming season.

their view was that BR was doinga good job but working aganist the background of owners who are still finding their feet and may even be courting potential buyers/investors. Nonetheless, they recognise, unlike Gillet/Hicks that they will not make the club attractive to potential buyers if they allow the club to stagnate. so they are stuck in the middle.
However, they are gaining confidence in BR as demonstrated by their positive approach to this transfer window.

Its easy to be critical of the club and those trying to maintain LFCs position in a game that is changing daily with billionaires throwing thir cash abt. These guys think that LFC will reap the benefits of a more cautious and steady appraoch to creating strong foundations.

And then I mentioned the S word. They are both adament Suarez will go but worried it will drag on all summer and hidner our chances of getting a replacement in time. That I my worry too.

One thing they did say is that there will be a surprise signing, someone none of us have clocked on to yet. It will be from Germany.

Anyway, Eds so going good job. The ex pros loved the sarcasm and the patience of the Eds and the amount of replies theyr provide.

Cheers

ShuMan

Merkel could be the one-powerful pair of legs!

Merkel signed for Udinese on a five year contract in January so it's not him.

Oh, its a him, is it! That explains the moustache!

12 Jun 2013 20:30:40
Udinese's finances are about to improve dramatically then

Just like you posted back that time how LFC will only be signing players from second tier euro leagues and from the Championship eh?

It's not so much a surprise if it is from Germany is it now?

Another ITK wannabe.

The real AG

Leon Goretzka

REal AG

There is nothing in my post that says in ITK, my work means I come across sprtsmen and footaballers and its no surprise that from time to time, I come across ex LFC players who themselves cannot claim to be ITK as they too will only be getting snippets etc.
Yes, the last time, I did indeed say that we're looking at players from second tier leagues. wouldn't the russian league be considered second tier if we get mkhtaryun? isn't the ducth league second tier? Danish league isn't second tier?

13 Jun 2013 10:42:07
Have we signed players from the danish league? NOOOO
Have we signed players from the dutch league?
NOOO
Have we signed Mkhitaryan?
Noooo and he plays in Ukraine and Shaktar is one of europe's best clubs and there is absolutely nothing 2nd tier about his price tag!
So far what we have signed or close to sign are
Kolo Toure -Manchester City
Iago Aspas- Celta (spanish la liga)
Alberto-Sevilla (la liga)
Tiago Ilori (sporting)

The only one from those above from a "2nd tier league" is Ilori and you never mentioned the Portuguese league! I smell the BS from far away as well and agree 350% with the real AG on this one!

Malak

Malak so you're now Real AG's mouthpiece! very good!
you have a lot to say for yourself though I suspect you don't note as much of what others say as you should. when I said second tier leagues, like the danish, dutch etc, its where we are scouting. a lot of players linked to us at the moment are from second tier leagues. this is understandable given that a-list players (lewandowski's, benzema's etc will prefer to play for CL teams etc)
having an opinion is fine but resorting to the tone that you adopt is neither clever or warranted.
no one knows who is behind the posts, comments etc. so its not clever to be rude or have an attitude against someone because they have an opinion.
i say what I do and happy for your response. i'm not going to sit here and try to pass myself off as the biggest fan around. I do what I do and I get a chance to meet a few ex players and they express a view don't mean I take it as gospel!
and the other thing, this is a banter page, if people do say things here its very likely they are repeating things heard elswhere or simply dreaming. either way, unless you are BR or Ayre then most of what is said in these pages cannot be believed!
you on the otherhand sound like you might have direct access to BR's head or dare I suggest an other part of his anatomy! SOH always helps on these pages!
Enjoy

ShuMan

12 Jun 2013 17:38:44
The Problem with Stats.

OK I think most people on here now are aware of the stats analysis that I post from time to time (recently quite a bit as I've been taking some time off work to go and finish my ph. d) and some people have enjoyed the read while others haven't. It's to be expected really as they are always something which divides opinion. Some people, like the Mark Twain quoting poster from yesterday are of the opinion that stats can lie. This can be true if you only show half of the stats, namely the ones which support your argument. However this isn't something that I do, an example can be found just before xmas when I was critical of Steven Gerrard and felt he needed some time on the sidelines, however after analysis I found that I was wrong. I could've not bothered to reveal this and therefore nobody would've been wiser to it and incorrectly stuck to my guns. But that's not me, I like when I can find evidence for things that support my claims but will also equally admit when I'm wrong. As I did when I did analysis for Gerrard in January, and as I have done recently with Sturridge.

When I first started posting here I did make posts much like this one, filled with opinion and very little evidence. And whenever I would criticise a certain player, I would in turn get criticised myself because 'where was my proof?' and those people were right. So I started to look for proof, and now I provide proof. IF the proof doesn't support me, I still print it anyway and hold my hands up to being wrong. I think this proves that I don't print Stats to back things up, I print the stats then base an argument around the evidence.

I don't try to persuade people to whatever argument I present, I just provide information for people to read. The last problem is that many people say stats don't tell a story, they say stats are useless numbers. If that's true then those people must not be bothered if we win or lose, winning and losing is a stat. Scoring goals is a stat. Amount of trophies and league position are stats. IF you truly don't care about stats then this means that you enjoy the act not the outcome.

I know that each and every poster on this site does care about stats, they only don't care about stats when it doesn't support their opinion. I can honestly say that's not how I do things, my opinion is shaped by evidence. How many other can say the same?

Hope you've enjoyed reading, comments are welcome and appreciated as always.

Stats are a very good way to get an understanding of a certain area.

They are however relative. To take them in isolation can be risky as there are many variables that should also be applied when assessing something.

Stats are a guide, rather than an answer, but as you say, having an informed opinion that you can demonstrate is always a good thing in my view and a sound building block.

Keep up the good work Nevada, I enjoy the read.

K79

Hi Nevada,

As a neutral I must say I find your posts interesting and I think the stats add a bit of basis to your arguments.

However, my opinion is that stats are 'useful' but not 'conclusive'. In other words, I think it's wise to use stats to help form your opinion but dangerous to use them to arrive at a conclusion.

The best/only way to arrive at a valid conclusion IMO is to watch a player time and time again, in different situations, against different teams etc.

One problem with stats can be how 'complete' they are. For every stat which is mentioned (e. g. games played, goals scored, ratio of golas/shots) there are many attributes which are forgotten or can't even be shown with stats (positional awareness, work ethic, communication, interplay with team-mates).

Another issue is that comparing stats of 2 players playing in different teams (or different leagues even) can skew things heavily due to there being so many variables which cannot be analysed on paper - I don't think it's as easy as saying player X plays in a poorer team so you'd expect him to score less than player Y.

Like I said, I find your posts interesting and the stats are great (good effort BTW in finding them!) but I'd be careful to not look like you are basing your conclusion on the stats alone. They should just form a background info. to actually watching a player play live IMO.

HB

Thanks for the comments. I agree with all the things you both said. There are stats for things such as work rate, distance covered. Communication is trickier I'm not sure that can be objectively measured. Which is my problem with things such as work rate, communication are highly subjective and will change from person to person. Therefore there is no reliable measure of work rate and other intangible things.

Glad some enjoy the posts, and Thanks again for the input.

Nevada

I watch every Liverpool game, not live unfortunately due to my job and also watch a lot of Italian football and some Spanish.

Nevada

Thanks for the comments. I agree with all the things you both said. There are stats for things such as work rate, distance covered. Communication is trickier I'm not sure that can be objectively measured. Which is my problem with things such as work rate, communication are highly subjective and will change from person to person. Therefore there is no reliable measure of work rate and other intangible things.

Glad some enjoy the posts, and Thanks again for the input.

Nevada

No problem Nevada, hate seeing other poster's shoot down well thought out posts. BTW my mention of watching players live was more to do with Aspas or other targets, I'm sure you do watch all the LFC games and for that I feel sorry for you (only kidding ;)

HB

Stats are always a good indicator in my opinion.

Keep them coming Nevada mate. I am sure the majority here enjoy them.

The real AG

12 Jun 2013 17:34:07
Instead of buying Aspas for around 10 mill and Alberto for around 10. Why don't we get Damaio for 20m? Baffles me sometimes my club.

Aspas won't cost around 10 million and neither will Alberto. Add to that Damaio has stated no interest in coming to us and we've no interest in him and you're post is looking slightly pointless wouldn't you say?

12 Jun 2013 18:11:42
You baffle me with your clueless tripe!
Aspas would cost 7. 5 m and Alberto 5m. Both for at least 7 m less! Aspas is just as good and a completly different type of player! Why would we go waste 20 m on a player not proven outside Brazil?
Luis Alberto is a left winger/playmaker and can't be compared to damiao!
Stop being negative of everything Liverpool & FSG does! It's driving me insane, armchair w*nkers who think they know better than the proffesionals who get paid for thier views and input! News flash you don't know sh*t and there are 50 different things to think about before doing a transfer! Doesn't work like fifa lad! $odd off!

Malak

Malak

I've bin saying this for years now I just don't understand it. By 2 top quality players this window by 2 more next summer an we'll be challenging. Meanwhile we sell Suarez, and get stuck with aspas.

Yeah it's that simple isn't it.

wages, signing on fee, does he want to join.

Instead of buying toure llori aspas alberto mignolet papadopolous mkhitaryan or eriksen why don't we just put all of that towards messi?

Im sorry for upsetting you Malak but its a discussion site don't start crying pal it's embarrassing. I don't want more Borini's at Liverpool because I'm sick of settling for 8th. Aspas will be utter tosh mate face it. It's about time we got some ambition back at this club starting with some decent f*****g signings

12 Jun 2013 19:04:45
Seems to me you're the one doing all the crying! Whining like a little b*tch before the lad has even put on a shirt! Get a grip or grow a pair because they have shrunk beyond recognition because of all the whining!
I am 1000% sure you are the kind who slated coutinho and sturridge on here before they proved you wrong! Problem is you are not man enough to admit you're wrong and will come on here to slate any transfer target no matter who they are! Aspas welcome to Liverpool! And no name clown get a life and stop acting like you're a pundit when you show complete lack of understanding for how the simplest matters of a transfer work!

Malak

It seems to me that not only has football changed whereby owners want immediate success and only give managers a few games to deliver success, but the fans seem to want instant success now too. I may be wrong with this but I would put money on this new breed of fans being the younger generation mostly because those of us who have supported the club longer remember giving the likes of Ian Rush and even Crouchy time. Our fans were famous for the support we gave our players, what's happened to our famous supporters now. we've gone from the best to the worst. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but remember it is just that. your opinion. No one can say that these players we sign will be bad, if you really are that confident maybe you should apply for a job at Anfield.

I will try my best not to be abusive, even though your ridiculous stance against a player who has yet to play a game is "baffling" and worth abuse.

How do you know Damiao want to come to LFC? How do you know he will only cost 20 million? You are ofcourse erroneous in pointing out Aspas' and Alberto's transfer fee. Then you completely fail to understand that transfer fee alone is not the only fee being paid. There is soo much "baffling" about your post.

The real AG

Damiao isn't all that good, not particularly mobile and not exceptionally quick, if he was he would already be playing in Europe.
Aspas scored 12 goals and set up half as many again in a team near the bottom, he has flair, pace, skill and passion, if he was at a top club then add another 15m to the price, I'm looking forward to seeing the lad.

12 Jun 2013 17:18:12
eds or red. do you see the price of players coming down with these new financial rules coming in, as teams will have less money available? or will it be players wages that will take the biggest hit?
also how long will it take for all the rule to be inforced?

thanks {Ed030's Note - I don't think so mate. }

12 Jun 2013 17:10:27
Hi Eds,

Great work; just wanted to post about Interest are We interested in Interest and what is the interest in Interest and and how serious is our interest in interest? will his club Interest Milan sell Interest to LFC? Our manager is clueless if he doesn't show an Interest in Interest, I mean what has he achieved in the game? ok yes he is making us play attractive football, but is that what interests us in football? do we want to go to a match and be entertained? etc etc etc yada yada yada. We have become such a mediocre club now and claw to our illustrious history with Interest yada yada yada. I love X player at Liverpool but when he wants to leave I lose Interest and before he was my heroe now he is absolute excrement and not worth being civil too. that goes for most of our ex-managers too; I mean what respect do they deserve? yada yada yada. The Deja Moo (the feeling that I have heard this bull $h1t before), I get every time I visit the site is becoming really tiresome!

Some of the drivel posted on here by some of the (non)supporters is just unbelieveable! seriously guys this is a free site which looks like it requires a lot of work, done by hard working Eds for nothing, seriously stop with the repetetive p1$$ taking posts and learn to use the search function and learn some respect! and the ones who constantly berate the Eds. OMG dudes seriously get a life. Some top Eds and Posters here too ; Nevada, Malak, Waro, and some great Eds especially the sarcasm of Ed02. top lass:)
keep up the good work and ignore the ignorant haters. Peace out

JFT96
Redsanity

Interesting post

Thanks mate. Even without the compliment it was a good post and made me laugh, I could feel the Jack Dee style comedy rant within it


Nevada

12 Jun 2013 16:57:32
I hear Muriel is very similar player to Suarez, are we interested? great site guy's and well done for the voluntary side of it too, respect. {Ed030's Note - There would be major WP issues. }

Ed would it not be possible for Muriel to gain a wp under the outstanding talent ruling? cheers {Ed030's Note - I highly doubt it mate. }

12 Jun 2013 16:56:38
suarez's replacement will be Luis muriel
Also, in the next 72 hours we are going to sign eriksen
**** man. united
Liverpool is number 1

Stupid post

12 Jun 2013 16:42:16
Just been looking at LFC website and reading comments on transfer rumours.

Just a thought to bear in mind that came to me when reading the Eriksen vs Mkhitaryan comments:

Don't forget the wages. !

A lot of people are saying that Eriksen will be cheaper - maybe £4-£6m cheaper - from a transfer fee point of view.

However, given his profile (helped by his repeated media comments), I would be surprised if we were able to land Mkhitaryan for around £15-£20k per week CHEAPER in wages.

£20k per week equates to £1m a year, and therefore £4m on a 4 year contract.

So don't get put off by the additional fee, let's go for the best player.

What also helps is that Mkhitaryan seemed to completely outshine Eriksen recently when Denmark played Armenia.

Eds, another factor, as you've pointed out, is agent's fees. Do you have any idea as to respective representation for these and other targets? Are we likely to be stung more for fees from any of the players we are linked to?

Z

Sadly in our industry, its an agents job to get the best financial deal for their client. This obviously also mean the best financial deal for the agent too. There are very few who operate with a high level of financial ethics. Some but not many.

Hay Zeddicus. I think your wrong there to be honest. Well if you believe most of what has been going around for a while. Mkhitaryan has stated he wants to move to the EPL to get his payday (Ed002 said it I think) so I reckon he wants big money. Erickson on the other hand has previously ruled out moves to Manchester City and Chelsea as he wants to move to a team he won't be left sitting on the bench. Mind you I wouldn't see him sitting on the bench a either. It seems to me that Erickson would be the cheaper of the two overall.

BTW just my opinion.

Quigz23

Get the Armenian lad in and pay him nicely. He will score 15-20 goals next season from AM position.

12 Jun 2013 16:29:57
what if Real don't put an offer in for Suarez and he has to stay with us, he has burned his bridges with a lot of the fans who worshipped him.

Well don't celebrate when he scores then. If people have turned on him so much because he answered questions about his future to the press, then why don't you all attend with your Suarez out banners?

We stood by his racism, his biting; argued that the British press and, indeed, the FA were harsh on him and made an example of him by banning him for 8 games, while John Terry got a mere 4.

Sure he has a poor attitude at times and has moments of madness, but while he is still contracted to Liverpool and wears the red shirt I will be in support of him; not turn because he answered questions posed to him by the press!

He's a special player, one that doesn't come around too often, and despite his attitude i'd still rather him be at Liverpool than say the likes of a poor (er) player like downing (No offence to downing, I still support him on the pitch, but he never gives 90%)

Just my view on the matter.

SR (StrabaneRed)

PS: Oh and perhaps it would be a good idea to stop worshiping players/people, then you won't be disappointed or hurt :0)

SR (StrabaneRed)

I will support Suarez while he plays for the club I love. I don't hero worship him, but I like him as a person and as a footballer. He is world class and he plays for us, end of.

Tel 1949

12 Jun 2013 20:32:55
If he stays he will get his name sung as loudly as ever

Thanks for your view StrabaneRed, interesting, I don't worship players and haven't since Keegan left for Hamburg, I like Suarez and hope he stays, but I don't think that will happen now, I do support any player who wears the jersey and gives 100%, I have for over 55 years! but I am not a blind sheep of a fan, I call a spade a spade, what anybody else decides to do is up to them.

P. s. SR (StrabaneRed) I don't know why there is some hostility in your answer, I was curious to know what the reaction would be if he had to swallow a little pride and play for us again, he has been disrespectful in my opinion, so it was a perfectly reasonable question, or as we say in Liverpool calm down, calm down, lighten up! mate!

Don't have to worry Tel. He won't play another game for us. You can bash the DF.

12 Jun 2013 12:49:55
hi ed's, this isn't a rumour, just a question.
Could anyone please advise as to how "first refusal" deals work. I keep hearing that Barca have first refusal on Alberto, but does first refusal mean they just have first refusal with Sevilla in terms of fee etc.? Basically what i'm asking is (and not saying for one minute that this is what is happening!) should Alberto himself decide that he would be better off at Liverpool or anyone else then can he reject Barca and ask Sevilla to deal with someone else? Sevilla would still have given Barca first refusal. Or is it that an agreement is in place between Barca, Sevilla and the player and its just a case of Barca saying yes or no. and if no then he returns to Sevilla and is available to anyone else. Just curious as to how they work that's all.
Cheers {Ed030's Note - Barcelona Have the option to sign Alberto because of a clause in his loan contract allowing them to purchase him for a x amount mate }

Might be easier to sign someone else, just joking, he looks really good from what I have seen.
redforever

12 Jun 2013 16:17:38
Hi, posted a while ago that LFC considered paying £18 mill buy-out for Papa, however they have put in a fresh offer of £15 mill and believe that will be food enough to get him. Thanks.

12 Jun 2013 16:15:00
Is Reina still wanting to leave and who are possible replacements if he does? {Ed023's Note - Mignolet and Begovic have been discussed}

Reina has nowhere to go now that Valdes, Casillas and now Courtois all are staying put. I would sell him to Napoli and let him move to Barca from there next season. let's get a keeper who is going to stick around for a bit.

12 Jun 2013 15:43:41
No transfer gossip - just to say that I bumped into Greame Souness yesterday at Southampton Airport.

He was my era, hence the name I use on here - but a what a lovely fella.

He stopped and chatted, signed something for my boy - just a great bloke.

Legend is used to often, but as a footballer for Liverpool he is one of the true legends.

Top man.

Charlie souness great player and he loves lfc.

12 Jun 2013 15:21:05
Eds,
Any new developments on the Eriksen deal?
Cheers
Iwan {Ed019's Note - No}

12 Jun 2013 15:14:59
just watching some videos of kyriakos papadopolous. this boy is absolutely nuts! haha I love it. him and agger as our starting CBs could be unreal. terrifying prospect for strikers lol. in a red shirt, I could see him becoming a real fan favorite. heres hoping! Rab

12 Jun 2013 15:07:44
Darren Bent available for £6-8m

Thoughts anyone? {Ed019's Note - Nopety no}

Someone will buy him and if played regularly he'll score 15 plus at least.

12 Jun 2013 18:01:19
Probably a little out there and just my opinion but I really would consider Bent to be one of the ones that got away. He has been a cracking player for years yet never got a chance at a "big club". Lambert was a fool not to play him last year and for that sheer stubbornness alone he should have been sacked. N'zogbia and Bent are two of villas best players dropped when there team needed them. People can say he is crap blah blah but stats don't lie. Would have took him over Carroll that January all day long.

Quigz23

12 Jun 2013 09:36:05
Hi all, first time poster. Just want to say what a great site and great job the Eds are doing.
Lagerman. {Ed019's Note - Cheers}

12 Jun 2013 14:46:38
Its beginning to look like Mr Suarez is going to have to return to Merseyside with his tail between his legs as it looks like Real Madrid don't really want him as bad as luis would like. Its looking like G Bale is their top target leaving very little cash to fund a swoop for Suarez.

players list looks like this
Tiago Ilori, Kolo Toure, Iago Aspas, Luis Alberto,
Henrikh Mhitaryan, Ivan Rakitic, Alex McCarthey

and one from two (CB)
Toby Alderweireld
Kyrikos Papadopoulos

one from two (LWB)
Lucas Digne
Aly Cissokho

Season long loans for Suso, Jon Flanagan and Jack Robinson

Players heading out of the club include, Peter Gulacsi, Danny Wilson, Sebastian Coates, Martin Skrtel, Jay Spearing, Oussama Assaidi, Jonjo Shelvey, Daniel Pacheco, Andy Carroll and 50/50 Luis Suarez.

Redisthecolour {Ed023's Note - Get over it, Suarez will leave and I expect Real Madrid will bid... soon}

Nonsense. Real have reportedly been sniffing around Cavani in addition to Gareth "diver" Bale.

They have enough money.

Crowman.

I can assure you Madrid are not short of the cash for both players.

Nevada

1) Ed do you reckon we should accept any of their Acadamy kids as part of Suarez deal?
As I feel they will not offer straight cash right away. We will need to fight hard for it.
I personally would reckon take straight cash of around £45m and run like hell!
Then go out and buy Mkhi, Papa and Rodrigo (benfica) as Suarez replacement.

2) Ed have you seen Rodrigo play and do you reckon he would be a quality replacement for Suarez?

I have seen him quite a few times and reckon he is quality and will only improve. And to top it off I feel he would join us with no qualms and at a reasonable fee and salary unlike BENTEKE. {Ed030's Note - No mate I would want straight cash as none of there better player would be interested in joining atm,Rodrigo is a good player and I highly rate him but there would be plenty of competition for his signature. }

It doesn't look like Suarez will leave. I can't be the only one who thinks this?

I hear it will be mid-july when they bid. I'm not entirely sure why then but that's what I was told.

12 Jun 2013 18:54:18
I hear mid june Nevada! Brace yourself for a bid by the end of next week mate.

Malak

Real will have the money for cavani and suarez when their new manager moves a few players out it will generate the cash ronaldo may go and others whos time at real is up but they are worth lots of money. cavani will look after suarez and they will work well together.

12 Jun 2013 14:15:55
reading on various sites we're on for Rakitic? 8 goals and 10 assists from midfield ain't bad. any genuine interest ed (s)?

Ta {Ed023's Note - He is the flavour of the week, wait and see}

12 Jun 2013 13:24:18
Hello Eds,
any further news on Papadopoulos or Mkhitryan?
I reckon these 2 would be the most important signings this summer. Aspas, Luis Alberto, Illori and Toure are all good but are mainly being bought as squad players the two targets that will really improve our starting 11 are the 2 mentioned above.

Also do you reckon Rodrigo Moreno Machado of Benfica could be an option to replace Suarez?
He won't cost too much (atmost 15-18 million) and would be a excellent player and most importantly would be willing to join us. {Ed023's Note - Nothing new. When we hear something we will inform you}

12 Jun 2013 13:42:31
Hi ed. I've tried searching but there's no recent update on Daniel Agger. Are Barca and Monaco interested. {Ed023's Note - Yes but nothing has changed and I highly doubt Agger will leave and besides that - he is on holiday, I highly doubt he is even thinking about football now}

12 Jun 2013 13:35:52
Bony or Lukaku would be perfect suit if or when suarez desides to leave the club. I can't wait for the season to begin hope we are top 4 contenders! bored of no CL football now. Come on redmen!

Cant see Chelsea selling Lukaku, however Bony does what to come to the premiership so maybe.

12 Jun 2013 13:32:03
Eds is it true we are in for Jozy Altidore? I'm not sure he would cut the premier league. I briefly remember him having a short spell in the BPL but couldn't hack it.

Whats your view eds?
thanks {Ed023's Note - I assume it's just another false story that has been doing the rounds on twitter.. We usually get 15+ different players daily}

12 Jun 2013 14:04:24
Eds what is the real news around the supposed fire sale at Barca. We still hold interest enough to bid on any of these?

Affelly
Dos Santos
Thiago
Montoya
Tello

These amongst others are available. I thought Affelly already left so either this story is poo or he was just out on loan.

Also can anyone please confirm our renewed interest in Siggardsson now at the 'better team' Spurs is a joke. I'm hoping the BR mention of attacking players adding 20 goals is not this person. {Ed019's Note - Maybe Tello if Barca are interested in Suarez}

12 Jun 2013 13:02:42
How reliable is Sports Direct News, eds? They claim Zenit is interested in Suarez, and want to tie up a deal quickly.

Not too convinced, but they have deep pockets and could probably meet LFC's asking price if the rumour is true.

Erik_Oslo {Ed019's Note - No idea}

12 Jun 2013 12:57:49
Hi eds, Just wondering have we rivals for Mkhitaryan? I know he said he'd like to move to London so could we be classed as favorites for him or might we be gazzumped by somebody? Thanks. {Ed019's Note - There was previous interest from Lazio & Juve}

12 Jun 2013 12:46:21
Hi Eds,

Is Andy Carroll to West Ham anywhere near done?
If/ when he does go, will Rodgers get the money to spend? I like Rodgers, he's made some good signings. Allen will come good given time, anyone with half a brain can see he is technically excellent and with more confidence this coming year I feel he will push for starts and give the others some competition for their places. All the best. Che47 {Ed019's Note - The club are trying their best to offload Carroll and Carroll just needs to agree terms with WHU}

12 Jun 2013 12:33:06
Just been readin bellamys quotes on kenny and gerrard
Were so lucky to have had these two great players and with gerrard still here my only wish
Would be he stays carries on for nxt 3-4 years and has a chance of lifting the trophy he craves, yes wishful thinking but I believe if rodgers can get us into top 4 the following season or the 1 after we could challange for
The title



Basy

I agree, this window is going to be absolutely crucial for our future. if we get this right we'll be in good shape to push on to the top 4

12 Jun 2013 11:48:49
Now that United have set an asking price would it be too unrealistic to think the club would look at Nani? 26 years old and has premier league experience surely would be a safer buy then Aspas and Luis Alberto for the same kinda money? {Ed001's Note - are people really this insane? I am deleting all further idiotic mentions of Nani joining.}

How is that an personic idea?

Neil

Comments like that turn my stomach.

I remember feeling exactly the same when 'the guvnor' joined - still do.

DaveyBootle

If all mad posts are deleted there will be empty pages on the site

12 Jun 2013 15:22:00
More chance in think about poaching from Everton before Man United

Just sounded like a question to me, WHOA settle down buddy!

Post of the week that mate can't stop laughing!

12 Jun 2013 11:31:53
Liverpool ahead of arsenal for David Villa. Truth

Is there a numbering queueing system?

I doubt we even interested really!. "too old and way past it for me ".

12 Jun 2013 16:09:45
its not truth. its your dream.

12 Jun 2013 11:15:53
Ed. great work.

80th min. we are 2-1 down, under pressure, Freekick. leave aside gerrard.
name one who can hit the top corner 9/10 times.
Bale and suarez,

Bring someone who match this.

We need this inspiration, this hard work, and commitment. Only RVP has sold more shorts than suarez last year in EPL.

Bring someone who ll be the face of Liverpool Fc.
someone who is feared by managers and defenders, someone who is being man marked.

Everytime he played infront of the KOP, he has been special, goals, arguments, runs, dribbles, pace, long rage free kicks.

Such a shame when people bring on stats to prove, its better to sell suarez and bring someone who isn't even close to him.

Let Asapas makes a name of himself, and then we will comapre him with suarez.

I very much agree with the last part of your statement Harry. Let him have a season and a half like suarez before we judge. let's not forget in his first year suarez only converted 5% of his shots into goals, this improved to 12% in his second year but still not the 80% which you claim.

I don't know Suarez stats from free kicks, I'm sure I could find it if you like? but I doubt its 80% since I don't know any player past or present who had such a high success rate.

I do like your rational thinking of judging after the fact though. More people should think this way.

Problem is Dude so badly wants to leave.

12 Jun 2013 13:07:46
Not looking to argue with you mate but that's just BS out of proportions! I can count Luis Suarez's freekick goals this season on 1 hand, 1 vs city, 1 vs Wigan (luck), 2 vs Zenit (one of was lucky)

To suggest he hits the top corner from free kicks 9 out of 10 times shows how much you don't understand the sport and just make up numbers to support your worrying man crush on Suarez!

Malak

David beckam lol ill always remember the freekick against Greece :) what a moment that was.

Gezza1982

I agree that we need a set piece specialist, but we also need players who are capable of getting on the end of corners/free kicks.

We waste so many set pieces and indeed concede many goals from set pieces too due to the fact that we don't have many players who can dominate in the air.

Red Lee

Seriously you think Suarez is a good face of Liverpool?
What you don't seem to get, even though he has been a great player for us, is that he is costing us money.
Sponsers look at things he does and shy away. Also with what he has done how much has he lessened his value? again costing money!
Wake up great player but excess baggage we don't need!

Aspas is downings replacement not suarez

We are only selling suarez because he wants to go, not much we can do

Just have to get on with it and have faith in BR and his scouts

Maybe wait for him to make a name for himself before you criticise him. How do you know he won't special?
At the very least he seems a better man than Suarez in that he won't make us all look like mugs.

MIKEY

'80th min. we are 2-1 down, under pressure, Freekick. leave aside gerrard. name one who can hit the top corner 9/10 times. Bale and suarez,


Such a shame when people bring on stats to prove, its better to sell suarez and bring someone who isn't even close to him. '

It's also ashame when people use nonsense stats to justify keeping a player. You do dig some massive holes harry.

You act like suarez is godlike figure while in my view and a lot of fans I know; he's just embarrassed the club constantly. He's responsible for one of the greatest British Players and one of the most loyal servants to our club getting sacked, he's also responsible for our club reputation being ruined numerous times. If just that is to go on, he's a devil like figure.

12 Jun 2013 16:13:30
Malak.

I am sure. you are a a nice humour fella. I take this in spirit. coz. your reply is out of this world.

Now read my below comments.
". Luis suarez, garteh bale, two names you can really trust out of the possible 10 on the pitch to hit the bottom corner everytime they take the freekick. "

tell me one player from current Liverpool squad who can go at a free kick apart from gerrard?

12 Jun 2013 16:17:37
Guys. I am not against selling him.
absolute fine with it. its an emotion.
I am against those. who come out of new stats immediately once we sell someone. who actually

gets us profit.
scored goals
created chances
worked hard.

common. you bought a shirt of the same player 12 months back. and now he all of a sudden is inferior to sturridge and ASPAS?

Didnt Suarez score a very good goal, left top hand corner against Udinese at anfield,
redforever
ps am still split 50/50, well 60/40 on Suarez leaving, he always gave 100 per cent for us, but has messed up big time.

Who claimed he was inferior to those players Harry? I think there is universal acknowledgement that Suarez is a talented player. People have questioned his commitment and mentality.

12 Jun 2013 10:51:53
I see people are saying we can't attract top players anymore.

We can its just players are greedy *******s who want as much as they can get.

Aspas looks a sound player you need to give him a chance.

How many people had heard of michu or benteke last season, give the lad a chance just because he hasn't cost 50mil doesn't mean he will be crap.

If anything its a no risk signing if he doesn't adapt you sell him next season for what you paid.

LAVERS

Here here LAVERS! Whilst we don't have the financial clout in regards to wages like City, Chelsea and United do I think its the smart way of going about business.

Sam Adzii JFT96 YNWA

Bigger risk is when you do a chelsky and spend +50 mil then player does a fernando.

There is always a risk, mate - it's called league position.

However, agree with holding on to our horses for a bit before deciding to condemn these nice lads to mediocrity

12 Jun 2013 09:46:01
Guyz did you see what rodgers said? he said he has told suarez to stay and he is very confident next season will challange for league title, now is this a joke from no europe at all to league winners or challengers, he even said we scored 71 goals which should be enough to win league title, but will bring more players to add more goals to land league title, haha he is making fool of himself, top4 looks hard forget league tile, top4 will do for me.

I love rodgers but why would any manager give statements like that, even fergie or mourinho or now moyes never give that kind of statements its shocking and will add more pressure on him. Anyways looking foward for some exciting players to arrive, it looks like 5-6 players are on the way and some have already been agreed, all the best to liverpoool for new exciting season with very happy overconfident manager

And where does it say he has said this?

Where/when did Rodgers say this?

He's ok mate, Suarez will leave which will make all the comments null and void anyway.
But interestingly, if he gets the players were talking about and keeps Suarez, with a full pre-season and some of the younger players ( and manager ) with a season under their belts then who knows?
The other teams are having huge changes and there is no European distraction. We would have loads more fire power than last year and a better deffence.
Suarez is going anyway so doesn't matter.
RNred

He said it because the aim at the beginning of every season is to win the title no matter if you think its realistic or not.

He never said that you nutta he said our aim is to compete for the top 4 and even said "it will be an ask because as we improve other teams have shed loads of money to improve more too so we can't make any mistakes"

Look, I'll be shocked beyond belief if it happened. But clubs underestimate how far back we are from them. Was there a team all season that outperformed us during a match? Not that I can remember and I've watched every game this season. We have dominated teams or at least fought toe to toe with them. We scored 71 goals, created the most chances in the league so if we can shore up the defence we can definitely challenge for 4th. And no, keeping Suarez is not a priority for that challenge

Irish redman {Ed023's Note - Arsenal outplayed us 2nd game of the season but I agree with your points}

Nothing wrong in showing confidence in your players, just maybe they would repay that faith he has in them to go that extra mile!

12 Jun 2013 15:44:12
Its all over espn!

12 Jun 2013 08:50:25
Message for Rnred,

I had a look at Aspas for you to see what type of player and how he scores his goals here's how he looks.

Name--Goals--Assists--LF-RF-Head-Shots-Target-%
Aspas---12------5-----9--2---1-----103---51---49. 5
Suarez--23------5-----UNKNOWN----174---74---42. 3

As you can see his left foot is clearly the favourable one. and his ability to hit the target is comparable to suarez but his goals to games ratio is not, though it should be remembered suarez was playing in a highly creative team which created far more chances than Celta did for Aspas. I'm only going off memory for this but I'm sure that all of suarez goals were scored with his right foot (someone can correct me if I'm wrong there) with only the hearts goal being on his left. Will Aspas do well? Hard to tell without seeing how he adapts here but he is a similar bullish type of player with a similar shot accuracy and identical amount of assists in a very poor team.

Hope that answers the question mate

Most of Suarez's goals were with with his right foot and some on his left. Aspas can play RW so he might actually play there instead of ST, as Downing is our only left footed winger.

Stats, god. Lucas had the best pass ratio at one point yet majority of them were to players no more than five yards away. Does that make him better than Alonso. No.

Nevada your a star. Like I said when I was looking at those stats and the lack of goals from the left foot compared to the right, and that the side seemed unbalanced to one side of the pitch last season, I thought he'd try to address that issue.
I'm actually likeing the likely signings so far to be honest with you, think BR is been very clever, especially with who we can really attract right now.
I see in the interviews in the press today he has said he see's a couple of CB's an attacking Mid and an increased goal threat comming in. He also states players going out on loan, and importantly he wants an extra 20 goals this season ( that's getting close to 100 I think ).
If he's expecting Suarez to leave then do you believe he's going to try and bring in nother proven forward as well as Aspas? or do you think he believes the squad will have improved that much this season?.
I know we asked about Benteke, but I would be surprised to be honest, but there was a young Argentinian mentioned on here last night who's name came from nowhere and the young lad from Italy ( Algerian I think ex French youth player ).
Once again mate thanks for the info, I'm going to need a lot this next season, I've just found out I'm going to be away for most of it again.
RNred

I am a fan of stats, the pepe reina post the other day was a great read. Well done mate.
As great as Suarez is he is still not scoring a lot compared with the amount of chances we created for him (or he created himself) compared with some other strikers about, aspas could well turn into a great goalscorer at Liverpool.

MIKEY

I should add that at celta aspas scored against every type of opposition, both at the top, middle and bottom of the table.

Nevada

One of his goals vs Norwich were left footed, right?

12 Jun 2013 12:20:23
I always knew this, that Sturridge is more clinical and has a much higher shooting accuracy than Suarez, even Borini has a higher shooting accuracy as these stats suggest. Suarez has always been very wasteful, but maybe because he tries to score from impossible angles with the outside of his boot.
Great work Nevada, keep up the good work mate. Cheers

Malak

Been looking at Suarez's league goals and he scored this goals with left foot

vs Sunderland (away)
vs QPR (away)
vs Norwich (not sure where, but its the Sturridge dummy goal)
vs Swansea (not sure too)

all of this are only his league goals, add his cup / europa if he has any with left foot then ull get the amount. note that he is an outside foot user. so many time when we expect him to go with left, he still went with right because he is an outside foot expert imo. the video was from youtube.

To the poster referring to me as stats god,

I don't know if you paid attention to the stats I posted but only Gerrard had more KEY PASSES per game than Lucas. And Lucas has more KEY PASSES per game than Gungodan, Busquets and Martinez this season. I posted it last night if you fancy checking. Lucas does not just pass sideways 4 yards, this is a common misconception. Yes he does do some safety passes but only gerrard makes more key passes than Lucas last year. and he was injured for almost a third of it.

Nevada

In my opinion RNred I don't think he will go to buy another established striker as I think it's been rodgers intention from the start to make us less dependant on the goals of one player. We have gradually throughout the season begun to get goals from all areas of the pitch. It's more effective to play this way as it's harder to mark a goal threat out of the game when everyone is a goal threat.

This way also makes sense because we are unlikely to be in a position to buy another 20 goal a season striker and so it makes sense to have the rest of the team contribute those goals instead.

Thanks for the message everyone.

Nevada

Thanks kaizer I really wasn't that sure about the method by which Suarez scored and after doing stats last night and this morning I was a bit too spent to check.

Nevada

12 Jun 2013 08:36:11
It's my birthday today, HURRAY! All I wish 4 is a beautiful summer window. Hope it's not too much to ask for.

Niger Red! {Ed001's Note - happy birthday mate.}

Happy Birthday mate. We all hope this summer transfer window ends with us Liverpool fans smiling the most

YNWA

Tanks ed, rlly appreciate.

Happy birthday boss!

Sam Adzii JFT96 YNWA

Happy bday from ireland :)

Happy Birthday man!

The real AG

12 Jun 2013 15:15:33
Happy Birthday geez. Have a good 1 and don't do anything I wouldn't which is. not a lot HA HA! Have fun son ;-)

You're getting older, with more wrinkles, a little less hair, slightly more impotent, less testosterone, an arched back and a little of your height, saggy plums, a grey hair or two, the inability to withstand the effects of alcohol with a tendency to shout at local kids to "get down your own end".

That's not including the fact that the older you get the more pervier you become.

Aside from that. happy birthday!

DaveyBootle

12 Jun 2013 08:05:36
Think that people need to understand that we do not have the same drawing power that we used to 3-4 years ago, we have been out of the champions league for a few years and are not even in the europa this year. We therefore have to accept that some of the players that have been mentioned here will not want to come here so BR is doing all he can to bring in players that want to come, cheap enough for us to afford and also good enough to improve our squad. These players all seem to in some way improve our squad so we have to back them and hope that when it comes down to it perform at the top level.
Will

12 Jun 2013 06:32:13
Liverpool are most certainly on the path that fsg think is the right one to success young british core well we have the captain of england senior side, the u-21 and u-20s. No excuses now

Look before everyone does the predictable thing and posts about how crap those sides have been, just think a minute, the op has a point in the fact that they are all CM who have shown the quality and leadership qualities to fill that role.
RNred

Shame England at all levels mentioned there are sh••

12 Jun 2013 12:24:49
Yeah I mean Andre Wisdom and Conor Coady will take us to top 4! Get realistic mate, it will be a long way to the top but it will be worth the wait and will taste even better!

Malak

12 Jun 2013 04:30:53
Congratulations to Andre Wisdom for captaining the England U21 side for the first time! Great prospect hope he gets more minutes next season.

12 Jun 2013 12:38:05
He was literally the only half decent player out there yesterday!
On another note I think Pearce needs to get off his high horse and stop blaming the players! It's supposed to be his job to motivate and get the best of those players! And it's so tragic to see how they are set up to play! He (Pearce) has no shame and is an expert on how to blame everybody but himself when actually 99% of it is his fault! How does he even have the nerve to spout rubbish about anyone but him self after he lost 3 matches scoring 0 goals from open play!
I hope he gets sacked today, I've always despised the w*nker after he said it was Liverpool's fans who were to blame for hillsborough, he deserves nothing good coming his way!

Malak

12 Jun 2013 01:26:41
shouldn't Liverpool go out and try to get a player like Luke Shaw from Southampton. The kid has massive potential

12 Jun 2013 07:42:20
Looked by chelsea and UTD. {Ed001's Note - and has no interest in joining us. He would only leave for Chelsea while Southampton remain in the Prem.}

We are at a stage where we cannot afford to spend significant sums at positions which are not a priority.

Besides, Jack Robinson and Brad Smith have good potential, and certainly, Robinson should be getting chances in the seasons to come I think.

The real AG

Glad you ended your post with the word 'potential' then, I was getting worried what you were getting at ;)

HB

Agree we should give them Robinson and £8M

11 Jun 2013 23:27:32
Ed 30, Ed 052, Ed 002 or my idol Ed 001. I have followed this site for many, many years but rarely post as I know you have enough s**t to deal with without me contributing to it. Someone has stole my original tag so hence the elaborate log in name. I so appreciate the work you guys put in without recompense and without you our days would be a lot duller.

I am getting very frustrated with the cr*p that you have to deal with compared to other supporters on other sites ( yes us LFC supporters contribute the most but we are the royal pain in the asses). It goes without saying that the LFC site is the most popular but oh boy it is becoming an agony aunt site or a bitching site. I for one am becoming increasingly embarrassed by the calibre of trolls (sorry posters) that frequent this site. Mate Ed 001 I hold you in such esteem and know that you are busy but think back to what you wanted this site to become and is it what you wanted? Please correct me if I am wrong but I did warn you a couple of years ago to be careful of the monster it could become and now look at it!

I think social services should contribute to your costs as you guys are trying to mould/sensor the next generation which is impossible.

Why the rant? Why can't people ask reasonable/non repatative questions. You guys have enough to deal with without getting pi**ed of with the genuine supporters of your site. I want to help put an end to this sh*t. I see so many posts offering supportive suggestions and alternatives but invariably you have tried it before. We live in a very technological state so I appeal to all of the true observers of this site whether you post or not to help the Ed's put an end to the vitriol that I read every day. I am sorry Ed 001 but I feel that the time has come to put a lid on it and go back to your roots. I know Ed 002 would be in a happier place. Look guys you may not agree but this is getting out of hand. Anyone with me? for the good of the site and bear in mind the school holidays are soon approaching!
(AKA CornishRed now known as Cornishmendoitdrekly)

Very well said and so say all of us

Spot on. It gets a little tedious at times with the inane rants of certain posters. Really feel for the Eds at times. if I was an Ed I would probably be locked up or in an asylum with having to deal with the constant, often repeated questions and the whining and bitching that goes on. Give them a break and think before you type.
Robbie

12 Jun 2013 12:03:57
I have to agree with everything you said Cornishred! I to have been following this site for many years and have watched it descend from a rumours site (which once found I feverishly consumed)to an ask the eds incessant questions then abuse them when you don't get an answer you like site.

I still love this though and the eds for their time and knowledge (especially you Ed002) ;) but it has lost some of its charm due to the miserable negative trolls that peruse this site.

Perhaps there should be a new section called'Liverpool abuse' and put all the ugly minded trolls in there?!
Whatever happens I will still be visiting this site several times a day because. in the Eds (&Macca) I trust!

12 Jun 2013 00:11:05
Eds and reds,
Brendan Rodgers has said he wants two centre halves, an attacking midfield player and an offensive player.
Are Liverpool's targets Kolo Toure, Tiago Ilori, Ivan Rakitic and Iago Aspas?
Are these players replacing Martin Skrtel, Sebastian Coates, Jonjo Shelvey and Stewart Downing?

If/when Luis Suarez goes, who do you consider as the likely target/s to replace him?

2 centre halfs. papa. ilori
attacking mid. mktaryan
offensive player. alberto.

That's including Suarez in the team, it will change if he leaves imo we'll be stronger, and could see sturridge become a world beater next year.

Yeah, if Suarez leaves we will find his replacement.
Do you think Suarez's replacement will be one or multiple players?

It's interesting, as I can't make out if Aspas and Alberto and Toure are actually included in that statement or if he has included them and he intends others to come.
Given we are going to loose Suarez and BR wants to increase the goal tally by 20, I would think we may need some help.
RNred