Liverpool Banter Archive June 12 2015

 

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12 Jun 2015 22:45:42
I really cannot understand the negativity surrounding the imminent arrival of Kovacic whose signing, to my mind, represents good business. Sure, there is a case to be made that it's not the area of the field in the most need of immediate investment, however I would point to the fact that the window is not even open yet and that when a player of his ability becomes available at an affordable price it is not wise to hesitate. Can we please save our complaints for if the season has kicked off and these are still the weakest areas of our squad? I'm sure the striker will come, and hopefully a right-back. Can we please save our complaints for if the season has kicked off and these are still the weakest areas of our squad?

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13 Jun 2015 02:07:02
if we sell allen instead of lucas, i would be happy we got kovacic

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13 Jun 2015 00:38:26
I cannot understand the almost total anti support this site attracts. just over a year ago we were lining the streets welcoming a Rogers led team into anfield every home game with anticipation of a possible league championship. A league championship that has illuded us for almost a life time, we have had hero's managing our team since 1990 and all have failed to provide the illusive title. A title that now is open to the highest bidder in my opinion.

Unfortunately it appears that our owners do not either have the willing to provide the funds or the financial backing to supply the manager with the all beating team.

We have a young manager. A young manager who is now under extreme and impossible pressure to succeed. BUT is it all his fault?

I whould like to know who is picking the players we are buying?

Who is making the financial descisions?

I believe if we sell in my opinion a jumped up Sean Wright Phillips to City who seem to attract potential only to turn them into has beens and use the money to invest in a couple of quality signings we will again be lining the streets in anticipation.

Please, instead of all of the BS about how crap LFC is and get behind the staff and team and see what will happen.

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{Ed001's Note - the fans were behind the team last season, what did happen?}

13 Jun 2015 06:51:46
Did you not watch our games last season?

Rodgers went out and wasted a hell off a lot off money.

Showed he is truely useleas with tactics, and now with a squad off players all playing out of position.

The last couple of months also shown to me a bunch off players with no confidence in there manager.

We will do nothing under Rodgers, unless we find a hidden gem that does for us what saurez did.

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13 Jun 2015 07:19:54
i think you need to re-define the people you regard as heroes mate,people who lay their lives on the line so as others can sleep tight in their beds YES,. football managers certainly NO

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14 Jun 2015 22:08:03
East, you need to refer your questions to BR because he is the sole responsible for our failures last year and deflecting blame for transfers, tactics, systems and all the other probs from BR to the TC, FSG, the tea lady my mum, the postman, the ganitor or whoever won't change that.

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12 Jun 2015 22:38:36
Question for Ed001, curious to know who you'd like to see come in as assistant manager and first team coach? Thanks!

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{Ed001's Note - I actually like the idea of Bolo Zenden. I also would really like to see Roy Evans brought back to the club to help with coaching and give us the benefit of his experience. Personally I think we actually need a few more coaches involved, similar to the way Sheringham came in at West Ham early in the season. I would like to see us bring in someone like George Graham to coach defensive play. Maybe Glenn Hoddle to help with the technical aspects. People like that on short term contracts to work with players in small groups or as individuals to really improve the coaching we give.}

12 Jun 2015 23:21:59
Is there a chance of Roy Evans coming back in? I think we played great attacking football under him and also his experience of coaching successful teams could be really useful especially with so many young players in the team.

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{Ed001's Note - not as a coach, no.}

13 Jun 2015 01:37:42
Eds thanks for sharing your opinion and knowledge.
Ed001 may I know why Bolo Zenden is a better option ?

Thanks

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{Ed001's Note - better option than who? I never said he was a better option than anyone.}

13 Jun 2015 01:57:04
Any chance of Roy coming aboard?

Like the idea of hoddle aswel ed

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{Ed001's Note - highly unlikely, he had not been asked during the week anyway.}

13 Jun 2015 06:28:27
Ooh. Good call on George Graham. That hadn't occurred to me at all. He'd make a difference.

The issue would still be with Captain Colgate. He wouldn't agree and would insist on the back 3 system that even Graham can't coach.

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{Ed001's Note - for anyone who doesn't agree with the idea of George Graham, I would suggest seeing if they could find videos of him giving his tactical talks on Sky Sports in its early days. It was not the most exciting TV, but it showed just how well he understood how to defend as a unit and what positions players should take up.}

13 Jun 2015 08:01:33
Sorry Ed001 didn't put it in a proper way.Ed001 can u give any insights about the work done by Bolo Zenden as assistant manager?

Thanks

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{Ed001's Note - he was at Chelsea and now at PSV as an assistant, but that is not why I would go for him. It is due to my personal opinion of him, he has a good personality for being an assistant manager. He is strong enough to take no messing but also very likeable and friendly, so he can be a great buffer between players and manager, which is what the assistant should be. Also Zenden is an intelligent fella, which is unusual for a footballer, but something you need in management. His Judo skills might come in handy too.....}

13 Jun 2015 08:35:06
Hello eds. your thoughts on graham being a defensive coach.
Is he currently coaching/managing in football?
Is his defensive organisation well known in footballing circles and is it a realistic possibility of him coming if he is available.

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{Ed001's Note - it is not going to happen.}

13 Jun 2015 09:56:30
What about someone who worked in Graham's system?
I know he's a former Bluenose but what about Keown?
Hard as nails, passionate about the game, hates Man Utd and would likely stand up to the manager?

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{Ed001's Note - but he is not a particularly outstanding coach, not particularly intelligent, not inspirational, he is just an ex-defender, which means nothing. He has been working part time with Arsenal coaching for nearly ten years now, yet never gone anywhere. That should be time to stand out as a coach.}

12 Jun 2015 22:20:34
Well! Did anyone see the Wales game tonight? If he joins, I can't wait for the worlds greatest 'can't be ars*d ' forward line in Benteke and Ballo. B&B says it all really

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14 Jun 2015 22:09:51
He's a poor player playing at his level.

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12 Jun 2015 22:14:11
Hi Ed, random one. really random at that but back in 2012 when Rodgers was appointed, was he the favourite? Martinez was pictured with Henry right?

It's hard to believe he has been reprieved, Dalglish and Benitez were not so lucky.

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{Ed001's Note - they tried to get Klopp and De Boer, neither were interested then. They spoke to Martinez and Rodgers, both were only interested if they were manager, while FSG were trying to get them to come in as head coach. In the end they agreed to forget the DoF and bring Rodgers in as manager, rather than Martinez.}

13 Jun 2015 00:31:07
Makes you wonder what directions the club could have gone under them different managers.

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12 Jun 2015 21:59:02
Eds fellow reds , I feel BR is doing the same as last year without money .with 3 players already in and talk of two or three more then how is the squad meant to settle .he did just what Spurs did two years ago .the only difference is Spurs stuck with there team and now there settled team this is a make or break for Liverpool and BR this year

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13 Jun 2015 00:32:49
To be fair Ings is probably replacing borini who didn't get a sniff of the team so no chance he will unsettle anything further.

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13 Jun 2015 01:59:43
I'm not sure how a few in and a few out is seen as unsettling the team? Don't all teams do this every off season?

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13 Jun 2015 02:45:58
Agree Mikey - Ings is a no.2 or even no.3 striker so won't play every game, Bogdan is backup keeper and Milner is without question an upgrade on Allen/SG (hate saying that about SG) and much needed to add steel in midfield IMO.

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12 Jun 2015 21:39:21
Does anybody know roughly how much we got back in the Aspas deal?

I've read he's now going back to Celta Vigo from Seville.

Just putting this out there but does anyone else think Allen could go this summer?
I know it woul seem odd Rodgers selling him, but I can't seeing getting a look in next season. He also hasn't really shown anything special when he's played, and other players have probably left the club having done more.

Already the midfield is comprising of

J. Henderson.
E. Can.
J. Milner.
L. Markovic.
P. Coutinho.
A. Lallana.
J. Ibe.
M. Kovacic. (If he signs).

There also (if not sold) Lucas and Sterling.

I just can't see any point in keeping him. It would be best to cash in now on Allen Instead of next summer.

Even if Lucas and Sterling were sold I still don't see him getting a look in. Plus we have the likes of Rossiter, Teixera who need games.

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12 Jun 2015 22:57:45
Allen should not of been bought

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13 Jun 2015 02:48:04
Allen not a top 4 player IMO, think he's a useful player but if we bring in Kovacic we just don't need that many midfielders. We should sell if we can get a reasonable price to help fund a top RB.

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12 Jun 2015 20:50:53
So we have sold Iago Aspas to Sevilla as part of the agreement with them and they've immediately sold him back to Celta Vigo. We bought him for £7.5m and have sold him for £5m. I wonder how much Sevilla have got for him. Our transfer looking odd again.

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12 Jun 2015 22:39:19
At least that's him off the books and not leaching a wage from us, to be fair the fee is half decent also for a player we refused to utilise.

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12 Jun 2015 19:14:23
The signing of kovacic is absolutely pointless without any decent strikers making the runs and giving him forward passing options.
He will end up just retaining the ball and passing sideways like someone already at the club.
We already have some serious talent in the creative midfield roles in coutinho, Lallana etc so that's not the problem, it's the lack of a decent striker to feed off this creative talent.
He's a smart player but if the transfer kitty has been blown on him then the season is already over.

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12 Jun 2015 19:29:44
Exactly what i have been saying mate. If the club does not sign a top striker this summer, then all these midfield signings of Milner and Kovacic will mean absolutely nothing. What is the point of creating endless chances if no one knows how to put the ball in the f*****g net on a consistent basis? The whole window imo will be a big failure if a consistent goalscorer does not arrive. Ings is not top quality, Sturridge is injury prone and Origi is young and not very good anyways so a top striker has to be a priority or i can see another painful and worthless season for the club.

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12 Jun 2015 19:47:40
We also need a defensive minded midfielder, or we will continue to ship more goals next season. I think its just as important as getting a striker.
Also the strikers we have aren't actually that bad, maybe if they were given a run of games and some trust instead of putting a 20 year old winger in their position instead they would score more goals?

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12 Jun 2015 19:49:45
Rogers policy since ge came is to sign hundreds of midfielders and bang average or injury prone strikers.

Surely he can't make the same mistake again!

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12 Jun 2015 19:53:16
Mikey, you need to relax. The transfer window hasn't even opened yet.

The Eds have repeatedly stated that we are looking for another striker. That's in addition to Ings, Origi and the amazing but unfortunate Sturridge. Big wages have just come off the books and with the sale of Sterling (and others) we should definitely be able to both attract and afford another forward option.

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12 Jun 2015 19:59:18
Is the summer over yet? Perhaps wait for sometime befor posting something like this

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12 Jun 2015 20:19:43
Maybe read the last sentence again guys.
"If the kitty's been blown"
We need another decent striker, plus one or two other additions, let's hope we actually still have the money as kovacic is a luxury signing not a necessary one really.

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12 Jun 2015 20:39:42
Fair point Mikey.

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12 Jun 2015 20:46:48
Strikers cost big bucks, fsg have small bucks!

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12 Jun 2015 21:01:18
Calm down lads - The transfer window ain't even open yet

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12 Jun 2015 21:33:58
Maybe this is the "death by football" that Rodgers wants? 99% of the ball and no end product?

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12 Jun 2015 21:34:06
Why are people moaning that the kitty might have been blown? We've spent €23m which is basically ballo, aspas, borini and were selling more INCLUDING sterling for like £45m which is more than we could possibly spend on a striker even if we wanted to. Don't worry selling sterling has made us flush again

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12 Jun 2015 21:55:02
Next season has been eclared over, the minute the owners decided to keep BR, whichever Striker we bring. We finished 6 this season and played some awful football. 16 of our goals were scored by Gerrad and Sterling who we will not have next year and I think more than 10 assists between them. The guys we bought would have never made it to the starting 11 of the top 4. Kovachic scored 5 and gave 2 assists in 35 appearances. Even if we will have a decent striker - who will pass him the ball. Kovachic is another dribbler, like Ibe, like the rest. I honestly cannot see us finish above Spurs let alone top 4.

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12 Jun 2015 21:55:21
Bodgers system:-

0-10-0

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12 Jun 2015 22:51:05
Spot on, Mikey! Been posting the same thing and feels good to know that I'm not alone. I have been supportive of the owners since they came in and am profoundly disappointed with their dreadful decision to keep BR as I never believed it could happen based on their track record with firing failures with the Red Sox. I was wrong to have trusted them. Now I know that them and BR are all the same, clueless and feckless.

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12 Jun 2015 18:54:48
Barring the obvious need for a top class striker, I really hope we get a defensive coach. We have 4 centre halfs who have captained their country and yet made all of them look average!

Cheers

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12 Jun 2015 18:36:43
Kovacic is the only one so far that I feel will improve the first team. The others don't excite me at all. Ings, Milner and Bogdan are merely squad players. I still feel we need a top striker, a first choice right back and a replacement for Mignolet. Then we should be good to go.

Red Rum

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12 Jun 2015 19:20:03
Ings will surprise u . He's better than lambert borini ballotelli

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12 Jun 2015 20:42:19
I said in a previous post that I'd rather have Ings than most of the strikers we have. However, I don't see him as someone who is going to get 20-30 goals a season.

Red Rum

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12 Jun 2015 20:47:23
Damned by faint praise. Who isn't better than terrible trio

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12 Jun 2015 20:49:21
Ings ain't that good mate, will fluff loads of chances. I can see it all happening now. Aspas scored goals for a relegation threatened team and we said the same about him coming, look how that turned out.

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12 Jun 2015 21:28:41
Personally think that's nonsense although can understand if Milner maybe doesn't excite you. Would rather him Milner than another winger who can on paper dribble past 10, with lightening pace etc etc. oh but who forgets its a team game and to pass the bloody ball in once in a while!
Milner for me has an excellent footballing brain and personally i think he will be the best signing we get, unless messi fancies a move of course

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12 Jun 2015 16:56:21
Hi Ed001, as always you're the man!

Quick question, what is your assessment on utilising Henderson, Milner and Can in central defensive midfield?

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{Ed001's Note - none of them are really suited to defensive midfield, though I would have hopes that a good defensive coach could turn Can into a defensive midfielder. It would just need a lot of work on his positional sense and his mentality to stop him allowing himself to be bullied.}

12 Jun 2015 18:27:33
Will we have sufficient cover if Lucas were to leave?

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{Ed001's Note - not in my opinion.}

12 Jun 2015 18:35:43
We need to keep Lucas, and make him captain in my opinion.

Red Rum

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12 Jun 2015 19:21:41
Ed I think can is slow across the first few yards and he needs to improve that . He seems to have composure and most of everything else

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12 Jun 2015 19:36:15
Red Rum, that is going to do wonders for the confidence of Henderson. I can't think at this moment of a player who had the captaincy stripped from him, and he became a better player for it. If Henderson is the future, then we need to bolster his confidence, not destroy it. I agree we need to keep Lucas but making him captain? I think not

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12 Jun 2015 19:50:02
All Emre Can needs is a run of games in midfield, start him off at DM with the right defensive coaching and he could become a juggernaut in a few years time.

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12 Jun 2015 20:25:54
Can has to much to add to the team when going forward. Sticking him as a defensive player is just a complete waste

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12 Jun 2015 21:30:09
i would love Lucas to stay but part of me wants him to move on as hate seeing him mistreated and sat like a lemon on the bench and when he gets on he seems to rarely get the praise for his contribution

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12 Jun 2015 22:56:16
Then we keep Lucas and play Can further forward hence, benching Allen who adds very little to the team. Makes the Kovacic signing a waste of funds, don't you think?

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{Ed001's Note - I agree and disagree, Kovacic is a class above what we have, I really like him as a player, but we did need to spend the money elsewhere. He is a very good replacement for Gerrard in the role Rodgers had been trying to shoehorn him into. If we had a good manager to help teach him defensive positioning etc, then he might be turned into an excellent Xabi Alonso type holding midfielder. Sadly we have Rodgers, so it is a worry.}

13 Jun 2015 05:13:51
If we play midfield setup as below then I'll be really happy with either the first or second choice in any position (plus Llalana can play midfield too) and I think buying Kovacic makes sense.

If we can also then also sell Allen on for GBP10mln+ and use the funds to bring in a good RB/LB then it's a dream outcome for me.

-----------Kovacic / Lucas ------------
---Hendo / Can----Coutinho/Milner----

Sterling should be sold for GBP40mln to fund a top striker to back up Sturridge (preferably one that can also play out wide if required) or swapped for Walcott + cash then we're all set for next season and think we should have a realistic chance of top 4 so long as the team is coached properly.

That's my dream.

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12 Jun 2015 17:38:20
Just like to say thank you to the eds (mainly 002 and 001 as they edit this page the most) and any posters who share information and get involved in friendly banter.

I had a look at the other pages today out of curiousity and I suggest others do the same and realise how lucky we are to have a fan (001) and someone willing to share valuable information and insight (002) with us on our page.

thanks eds

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12 Jun 2015 17:52:01
I think the best way to thank them is to not ask stupid questions and to RTP

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12 Jun 2015 22:01:07
I agree Nevada this place is priceless, The eds are legends can't wait get kovacic I hope it goes through soon.

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12 Jun 2015 17:36:26
Did anyone see Phil's performance on Sunday? Serious class that lad is. Looks even better when he's playing with top players and under a manager who isn't a total imbecile

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12 Jun 2015 18:03:29
Essex
I'm concerned the vultures will be circling overhead to take him off our hands in the not too distant future.Ready made replacement for Xavi at Barca???
Hopefully he stays.

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12 Jun 2015 18:22:31
No need for that.

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12 Jun 2015 18:49:26
I don't understand why people keep putting Coutinho and Xavi in the same sentence together.

They are two totally different players, so how could he be the "ready made replacement for Xavi and Barca" is just silly in my view.

Coutinho is more like Iniesta than Xavi, as Xavi is the one who controls the game, keeps things moving and supports. Coutinho is a player who likes to run with the ball, take people on, have a few shots a game and generally make defenders worry.

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12 Jun 2015 18:54:44
I don't think he'd be a replacement for Xavi, seems much more in the mould of Iniesta. It is worrying though, next year if we don't have a markedly better campaign.

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12 Jun 2015 19:39:30
Probably agree, not like for like but I doubt Barca would have any difficulty accommodating PC & Iniesta in the same team with a view to PC taking over Iniestas role in the future. Plus he is a big mate of Neymars, similar happened with Mascherano, Messi wanted him there.

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12 Jun 2015 20:02:55
lol,he,s a long long way short of both of them,the young lad had a half decent season by liverpool standards,and now you are comparing him to xavi and iniesta OMG

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12 Jun 2015 20:51:09
Like Xavi hahahaha

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12 Jun 2015 20:51:46
he'd walk into uniteds team though

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12 Jun 2015 22:57:49
If we continue to screw up as we are doing now, he and the rest of our good players will leave.

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12 Jun 2015 17:24:42
This window is shaping up to becoming quite a decent one. Already we have brought in Bogdan, Milner and Ings for free (albeit with a fee for Ings).

Kovacic seems to be the next one arriving from Inter. I'm unsure whether I believe the Falcoa rumours but would take him. If we managed to sign Falcoa that would be a great start to the window.

In my opinion if we just add Konoplyanka (free) and Montoya from Barca I'd be really happy with that being all.

If the above do arrive I expect the following to leave.

J. Enrique.
S. Coates.
M. Skrtle.
I. Aspas.
L. Alberto.
Lucas.
M. Balotelli.
F. Borini.
R. Lambert.

There's still a huge question mark over Sterling but I think if we are offered the 50 million we reportedly are holding out for he'll be gone.

If he does go for that great business by the club and the culmination amount brought in from the above sales and reduction in wagebill would help the club massively.

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12 Jun 2015 18:58:04
This is the problem though, if we are moving that many players on, I can't see them all being permanent deals. Aspas and Coates are the only ones I see definitely going to a new club for good. The others I really don't know. Balotelli and Borini are of interest to Italian teams, but our recent out-goings to Italy have been either small fee's or loans-to-buy.

Skrtel, is one who will either stay or go permanently as too with Lambert. Enrique, I really don't see anyone coming in for him. I don't want Lucas to leave, but if he does leave, I'd imagine it will be on a permanent basis and I don't know if anyone is interested in Alberto, as I haven't seen many posts on here about him.

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12 Jun 2015 19:40:12
Jonesred Just the SEVEN players in then

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12 Jun 2015 20:33:34
Red since

Four are practically already in, the form of Bogdan, Milner, Ings and Kovacic. We certainly still need at least one striker, a right back in my opinion (and Montoya is value for money) I'd say another wide player in Konoplyanka is great business on a free.

All the ones I've listed leaving aren't no great surprise. I know a lot like Lucas but I just can't see him staying. Skrtle for me will leave too, and at his age and wage I won't be too unhappy (especially if Ilori finally gets a chance). Apart from these two there's no surprise in the others I've listed as being sold.

And to add all the ones I've listed to arrive four are there now and the other three are viable in my opinion.

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12 Jun 2015 20:53:18
why does everyone seem to want Falcoa? Dreadful signing

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12 Jun 2015 23:44:25
I mention Falcoa as it could actually suit all parties (with right financial package for us), plus he gets a real opportunity to regain fitness and all round game. Out of all the strikers we have been linked with Vietto, Ibrahimavic, Lavezzi, Martinez, Benzema, Reus, Firminho, Yarmalenko or Icardi none of them will sign for us.

i think our most realistic options for striker would be

G. Higuain.
R. Falcoa.
C. Vela.
C. Tevez (maybe).

In all honesty I'd take any one of Higuain, Falcoa or Vela.

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12 Jun 2015 17:14:18
Hi eds with kovacic looking likely, a lot of people seem to think Lucas will be moved on, but surely joe Allen is the player to be made available. do you see Allen moving on this summer. Thanks for your info on kovacic today.

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any plans to move Allen on - I would suspect Kovacic will be replacing Gerrard.}

12 Jun 2015 16:11:24
Question for ed001 please,

Do you think Kovacevic could be a replacement for Henderson? Rodgers tried to sell him when he first got here and has not given him the armband yet either.

I know this suggestion is a little bit conspiracy theoryish but Rodgers has slowly reduced the number of players from previous management to almost nothing and didn't want Henderson in the first place so could we be looking to sell?

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{Ed001's Note - no I think Kovacic is the replacement for Gerrard, not Milner. I expect him to be the one who sits and directs play.}

12 Jun 2015 16:55:31
Thanks for the opinion ed. Much appreciated.

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12 Jun 2015 16:59:20
Where does that leave Emre Can? Emre should be one of the first players on the teamsheet.

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12 Jun 2015 18:11:56
Young, i have asked that question several times on these boards YET nobody has responded. i guess it`s a question that no one wants to answer because there is no logical answer for him not playing in midfield as he should be

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{Ed001's Note - I don't think anyone can answer other than Rodgers. Not even sure he knows himself, he certainly doesn't seem to plan things out.}

12 Jun 2015 18:30:25
I answered. If you can't be bothered too read then don't make false claims. But that was my reasoning. Perhaps br believes that4 6 0 is the new fad

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12 Jun 2015 18:34:32
The only thing I could say is that Rodgers seems to prefer players that are adaptable and can play in several positions, particularly midfielders.
There would also be cover for injury - we've suffered in the past, for instance, when Henderson has been out ; Milner could now step in there.
Kovacic seems as if he can play deeper or more advanced / wider, so there's options all over now.
That's good, as there are all kinds of formations that can be made but the downside can be it indulges Rodgers' tactical experimentation too far.

I hope that there is another striker on the way or, by some miracle, Sterling drops his agent and writes 1,000 lines after school as punishment.

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12 Jun 2015 23:02:11
Reet, I must have missed that.

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13 Jun 2015 06:37:00
I think hendo could be move further up the field to a right or left sided attacking midfielder in a 4-2-3-1 with kovacic/Lucas/can occupying the deeper roles and coutinho/hendo/Milner/ibe/markovic/lallana all competing for the attacking roles. I remember hendo was briefly used as a left side attacking cam about two seasons ago against Spurs and he did really well playing quick passes and linking up with the strikers. His finishing is at times lethal, but like the old coutinho, it could use some work on consistency. This formation also provides lots of flexibility, and would suit sturridge and Ings. To me it makes the most since, but wouldn't be surprised to see this 3-5-2 bull continue under Rodgers.

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12 Jun 2015 16:30:02
There has been so much negativity on here lately its depressing to be honest.
Most of us had hoped for Rodgers being changed but that doesn't seem to be the case but post after post slagging our players, and other staff off is unhelpful.
Its one thing pointing out BR's mistakes, and also rather easy sadly, but ripping into the new/possible new signing as not good enough and the ones we acquired being poor is getting boring.
Personally i was horrified when Mario was signed for us and never thought it would work. that said there were a hell of a lot of you saying it was a great addition, minus his attitude, so i am fairly sure some of those same people must be slagging him off now.
As for Lallana, Lambert, Lovren etc, man get off their backs!

I feel really sorry (as far as i can) for Lambert who seems like a really nice bloke and clealry is still a very good player, but again maybe he wasn't the right pick, or played too rarely etc etc but he is a solid if slow player.
I can't understand all the stick Lovren gets either.
Just give them and new signing a chance is all i am saying

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12 Jun 2015 16:12:43
Eds when will a medical be arranged if everything is agreed regarding kovacic cheers.YNWA

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12 Jun 2015 16:39:24
Very good Ed002!

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12 Jun 2015 17:00:10
Nice one Ed.

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12 Jun 2015 16:10:58
I hope Rodgers stays I like singing his song.

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12 Jun 2015 18:13:50
Liar, liar, pants on fire?

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12 Jun 2015 18:33:02
Plenty of songs about Rodgers. Take your pick:-

Dental Care - Owl City
Crooked Teeth - Death Cab for Cutie
Teeth - Lady Gaga
Can’t Smile Without You – Barry Manilow
Your Gold Teeth – Steely Dan
Sea of Teeth – Sparklehorse
Skin And Teeth – Joe Henry
Dedicated Thespian Has Teeth Pulled To Play Newborn Baby in High School Play – Jad Fair & Yo La Tengo
Perfect Teeth – Motion City Soundtrack
Wooden Teeth – Best Boy Electric
Summer Teeth – Wilco
Straight Tooth Smile – Emma Gibbs Band
Teeth In The Grass – Iron & Wine
Smile – Eric Clapton
Milky Teeth – Tindersticks
Dentist – Lee “Scratch” Perry
Broken Tooth – Campfire Girls
I’m Your Dentist, Girl – Plasmabat
Tooth And Nail – Foreigner
I Dreamed My Dentist Was Yusef Lateef – Better Daze Remix
Brush Your Teeth – The Queers
Teeth – The Mekons
Apprenice Dentist – Lone Ranger
Pulling Teeth – Green Day
28 Teeth – (The Hot Party mix) – Buck-O-Nine
Tooth And Nail – Dokken
Punched In The Teeth By Love – Motley Crue
Second Tooth – Skinny Puppy
Sweet Tooth – Marilyn Manson
Pulling Teeth – Cut Throat
Broken Tooth – Nikki Sudden
Enter The Tooth Fairy – Steve Tilston
Since I Lost My Tooth – Daniel Johnston
Your Gold Teeth II – Steely Dan

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12 Jun 2015 18:55:11
Fake Tan - Ride the Wombat

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12 Jun 2015 18:59:34
Brilliant Lenin haha

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12 Jun 2015 16:02:10
Hi Eds, was just wondering if there was any update on new additions to the club structure such as dof and a replacement for Ian Ayre? Also heard Mario is staying because owners value his commercial value to the club such as worldwide shirt sales. At the moment, they have nobody similar at the club so that's why they want to keep him. Lee

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{Ed002's Note - I assume you have all of this nonsense from Twitter. Shirt sales?}

12 Jun 2015 16:22:31
Yeah shirts cost money don't they?

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12 Jun 2015 16:38:56
Shirt sales go to the manufacturer and the retailer, the club does not make money on shirt sales unless it is sold in the club shop in this case the club would get the retailer cut of the sale.

This arrangement is the reason kit manufacturers pay so much for the license to make the shirt.

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12 Jun 2015 17:24:12
They would get a vendor fee from the club website/shop plus money from adding names and numbers. Doubt it covers his substsntisl wages however

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12 Jun 2015 21:59:42
With the current system and mentality.

Liverpool are heading for a bad time.

Wrong system, wrong players, wrong tactics, wrong manager.

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12 Jun 2015 15:54:45
Milner , kovacic, bogDan, ings, origi, surely this is an improvement to Liverpool fc, another top class striker and I wil be happy with how the team is shaping up. I just hope Ibe is not overlooked, he can fit straight into sterling's shoes when he leaves.

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12 Jun 2015 16:04:53
We said they where good signings last year look what happened, it's good in hindsight

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12 Jun 2015 16:23:50
we did get some useful signings last year. Some players (most in fact) don't play so well in first year at new club and that's even when they are played regularly and in right position

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12 Jun 2015 18:15:06
You are very easily pleased, Grimsby

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13 Jun 2015 00:56:27
They were good signings last year, just mismanaged.

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12 Jun 2015 15:27:46
Hey eds, great work!
As you said u expect the transfer of kovacic to go thru also sterling is expected to leave. Is kovacic his replacement or can we expect another replacement for sterling? Cheers.

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{Ed001's Note - I think we have Milner, Ings and Kovacic to replace Sterling already.}

12 Jun 2015 16:16:12
I have a bad feeling that with all the signings we have made, the club will penny pinch for a top quality striker which was supposed to be our first priority this summer. The planning for a transfer window needs to improve drastically at the club to compete for top4 in the long run. The signings of Bogdan and Ings just make no sense to me. Bogdan is just plain average (2nd choice at a championship club) and Ings was unnecessary with all the strikers we already have. Milner is a decent addition due to experience and Kovacic is unnecessary but a quality player. I just hope the club have planned to spend the Sterling money only on a top striker than fill an over bloated squad with even more squad players.

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12 Jun 2015 16:16:32
We need to replace the Italian strikers in our squad with an actual striker. Sterling doesn't need much replacing with what we have.

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12 Jun 2015 18:17:03
The striker position should be our first priority BUT i guess the "smart" people at the club know better and are collecting mor midfielders to add to the 100 other ones we already have.

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13 Jun 2015 00:57:48
Ings will surprise. If he gets the chance.

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12 Jun 2015 15:12:18
Tevez rejecting Atletico contract. Zlatan saying champions league is not important. Kovacic agreeing a deal.

Sell Sterling, Borini, Balotelli and recruit Tevez or Zlatan + Cheryshev and all of a sudden we are surprise contenders for the title next season with very little net expenditure.

Fantasy, but a very good one at that.

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12 Jun 2015 15:29:24
I'd actually like to see Zlatan at Liverpool. His experience and skill would be good for the strikers at our club and despite the press personality he is a pretty straight forward guy.

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12 Jun 2015 16:17:29
I would take Tevez on a 2 year contract. Fits into our style of play like a glove and transfer fee would be low but his wages might be an issue. Would be worth it imo even with his attitude problems bcoz he is world class and gives his all when on the pitch.

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12 Jun 2015 16:53:08
Tevez might suit our style of play better, but Zlatan is good enough to adapt to any style of play. Even Rodgers wouldn't be able mess up Zlatan.

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12 Jun 2015 17:33:40
Sigh!

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12 Jun 2015 18:06:57
Dwarf
He could if he put his name in an envelope.

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12 Jun 2015 18:18:03
Zlatan will take all the attention away from BR and you know we can`t be having that

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12 Jun 2015 14:59:11
Eds,

No relavence to transfers but from the comments your making are you suggesting the club is in a difficult place right now and why is is that?

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12 Jun 2015 15:24:56
I think he is alluding to our recent misgivings in dealing with transfers ed.

Let's just say we have not conducted ourselves entirely professionally Jrome123.

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12 Jun 2015 18:46:57
Amongst many other things the Ed mentioned.

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12 Jun 2015 15:00:39
Hey Eds, I know the site was only updated recently but is there any plans for some sort of notifications service via profile or email if someone or yourself reply's to your post?

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12 Jun 2015 15:14:56
Cheers Ed, great work from yourself and the other ED's by the way :)

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12 Jun 2015 15:50:46
What about an app ed?

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12 Jun 2015 15:57:30
As this post is in relevance to the site content. Is it possible you can add suggestions about improving the site's activeness by using a similar methodology to the poll of the day questions. Where in you could put up suggestions (or collect suggestion from the visitors) and get the view (yes/no) of the people active in your various site. Since you don't like the idea of people paying for this site and I respect it totally, I guess the least we could do is to contribute some ideas to this site if it is possible and if needed?
The model in which you operate the site is very much appreciated from my side!! Kudos to the Eds.

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12 Jun 2015 15:57:30
As this post is in relevance to the site content. Is it possible you can add suggestions about improving the site's activeness by using a similar methodology to the poll of the day questions. Where in you could put up suggestions (or collect suggestion from the visitors) and get the view (yes/no) of the people active in your various site. Since you don't like the idea of people paying for this site and I respect it totally, I guess the least we could do is to contribute some ideas to this site if it is possible and if needed?
The model in which you operate the site is very much appreciated from my side!! Kudos to the Eds.

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12 Jun 2015 14:46:35
Afternoon all,

Since we are about to sign Kovacevic (barring any last minute problems) I thought I would ask my friend in the inter set up what he thinks of Kovacevic as a person. I did the same with Coutinho before we signed him and he seems to be exactly as described.

Mateo is a very down to earth young man who is more than happy to put his shift in and on a number of occasions stayed behind late to do extra training on his own. though he is still young he is considered to be very level headed and generally speaking is well liked at Inter by staff and players alike. He already has a very good grasp of English (started taking extra lessons a year ago) and so should have no communication problems.

He has expressed an interest in advancing the defensive side of his game and its something he has been actively working on for the last couple of months before the end of the season.

I know we are not desperate for someone in his position, but considering the good report I was given and his willingness to improve and alter his game I think he is an excellent acquisition. Here's hoping FSG don't ruin the transfer with their questionable antics.

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12 Jun 2015 15:00:59
Have I missed something? Is he about to sign?

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12 Jun 2015 15:11:53
He's close to signing. The player expects to move, though I don't think personal terms have been agreed with him yet. The clubs have reached an agreement.

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12 Jun 2015 15:12:48
Sounds like a great prospect with loads of potential. The issue is we're still awaiting for last seasons to fulfill theirs. Would he jump straight into the first team? I would hope Can would get a chance there, with the remaining spots to go to Milner, hendo, couts and possibly Lucas. So why spend 15- 20 mil on him? That money should have gone towards a keeper or striker.

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12 Jun 2015 15:13:21
Apparently so.

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12 Jun 2015 15:16:09
I've read ed001 said he is about to sign but I couldn't find it lol. I'm kinda happy about the signing honestly; the last lad we got from inter has done pretty well.

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12 Jun 2015 15:22:53
He is ready for the first team in the opinion of a coach at Inter, I would agree with that too. My opinion is that he will partner hendo in midfield with coutinho just in front and Milner playing on the right rather than the centre as a Wing back/RW.

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12 Jun 2015 15:23:31
Thanks Nevada, excellent report.

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12 Jun 2015 15:40:00
I just pass on whatever I get, I never have that much info unless it's related to an Italian team so it's nice to be able to share.

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12 Jun 2015 18:57:14
I agree with Swsch. Kova is a good player that has a lot of potential to be even great if well coached BUT we should be getting a top striker in because our issues are up top and not in midfield

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12 Jun 2015 14:44:17
I think Sterling is doing the right move for him and I think though he is hugely over-priced he is a very good signing for City. I think he will do much better when he has players like Aguero in front and Toure, Silva and other top players around him. One of this problems this season was that he didn't alwyas knew when to get rid of the ball, when to pass and to whom etc. This will make things much easier when Aguero upfornt. With us he was the main target of defenders with City they will have to focus on Aguero and others.


I also think we will miss him badly. On a bad season for us in his standards he still scored 7 gaols and had 7 assists. If we would have taken advantage of him going and change the style we play to more passes, crosses and playing from the wings could have been a bless. As it is we have Ibe and Kovachich who has the same style as his but not half the talent (Kovachich had 5 goals and 2 assists from 35 league apperances last year).

It is hard to blame him either. I was annoyed with him like everyone earlier this season but changed my mind now. There were rumurs he said he would stay if Klopp is coming. But this summer and especially keeping BR shows that we have no ambitions so why should he play in a mid table team? I didn't hear one good reason why he is more likely to improve more in Liverpool under BR than in City under Pellegrini

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12 Jun 2015 15:16:01
We won't miss him that much, Ibe is at a similar level and will improve. We signed Milner who had similar stats to sterling having played less games in a deeper position. You could argue sterling was one of our worst strikers last season as he probably got the most playing time upfront and didn't deliver a great return!

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12 Jun 2015 14:42:38
Is the potential signing of Kovavic similar to when Rafa wanted to bring in Barry instead of Xabi and all of us on these boards were wanting David Silva?

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{Ed001's Note - no, he is closer to Silva than Barry in quality.}

12 Jun 2015 16:52:33
Watch him play and you'll realise his nothing like Barry.

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12 Jun 2015 14:37:22
As per whoscored, of his 27 starts, Kovacic has played 12 times as a central midfielder, 9 as an attacking midfielder, 7 as a left midfielder and 1 as a left winger. He has also come off the bench 12 times making a total of 41 apperances. His match rating is markedly higher when played in central or left midfield indicating that he is much better playing deeper. His return of 6 goals and 3 assists indicate that he is not a goalscoring midfielder, albeit in a struggling Inter team. Probably, he is more of a playmaker who sparks attacks from deep and has good link up play with powerful dribbling.
Dribbling, through balls, holding onto the ball, passing, key passes and long shots are listed as his strengths while ariel duels are listed as his weakness.
Personally, I am a huge fan of the Croat and feel he is a welcome addition to the team and will add depth as well as competition for places.
Cheers

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12 Jun 2015 15:14:19
Interesting stats. Thanks for sharing.

I'm sure that whatever he is supposed to be, Colonel Colgate will turn him into a wingback.

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12 Jun 2015 18:59:10
Can was also versatile as well and if the way BR messed him about last season is anything to go by, then Kova is in for a roasting by CP`s Yannick Bolasie.

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12 Jun 2015 14:36:40
Hi Eds

Neil Jones from the Echo has just said that there's no truth to the Kovacic rumours. What do you make of that?

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{Ed001's Note - I have no idea who he is, nor what I am supposed to make of it.}

12 Jun 2015 15:03:37
He didn't say there's nothing in it, just that he hadn't heard anything of it

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12 Jun 2015 18:59:55
Which means exactly that. Doesn`t mean it hasn`t or won`t happen

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13 Jun 2015 01:00:51
“Liverpool? I signed a contract to 2019, but you never know in football. At this moment I can say that I am 100 per cent staying at Inter"

Interesting.

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12 Jun 2015 14:14:54
I am left scrathing my head as to Brenda's enthusiasm for midfielders. I just wish the ones we had would be given a decent chance in the position they play and suits them. I know you can't answer as to how his mind works. I hoped last season, and of course this window we would try and replace the goals up front we are lacking. Happy with who we have got so far, I just feel we are still missing some punch upfront. And if Lucas goes it leaves us with no DM at all. Surely a striker and DM should be on his list. Perhaps the bright glare from his teeth has blinded me. Great work also eds thanks for all the effort

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12 Jun 2015 19:30:46
At this rate, only a shrink can figure out this compulsive obssession because nobody with a functioning brain cell can figure it out.

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12 Jun 2015 14:05:53
The words I would like to use are not appropriate for this sight. How many midfielders do we need. We played the 6-1 with seven I think so now Rodgers is going for an 8-1 with nine starting. Guy is clueless as are the rest of the administration. FSg should do a clean sweep and start fresh. We need to rebuild a reputation and respect with other clubs because right now we are a joke.

1st Game lineup.
Migs
Milner-Can-Lucas-Markovic
Henderson-Kovachic-Allen
Ibe-Lallana-coutinho

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12 Jun 2015 14:17:08
He will prob swap migs and markovic about. Give markovic a run in goal to boost his confidence further

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12 Jun 2015 14:24:08
So we actually can field a team full of midfielders. One does get the feeling the recruitment team has no particular aim.

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12 Jun 2015 14:42:48
Bench can include tiexara, rositer, branagan, and I am sure I am missing a few others.

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12 Jun 2015 21:02:08
Jraz, the worst thing is that many on here are just acting as if you have posted isn`t happening all in the hope that someway n somehow, things will just fix themselves instead of holding the people in charge accountable for not only failing to fix our issues, but are commiting the same mistakes all over again that caused them. If the whole review resulted in us doing the same things that caused the review in the first place, why have the review to begin with?

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12 Jun 2015 14:03:34
Bogdan has been brought in as back up to Mignolet. So i guess it is another frustrating season with Mignolet between the sticks. That means another season of shaky comical defending as well. Why couldn't we invest in a top quality keeper. We clearly will never learn!

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12 Jun 2015 21:06:36
Because our owners have shown to my chagrin, that they lack the bottle and a good pair to make the hard choices. they have rewarded failure and validated medicrity as a way forward hence barring a huge turn of events, I expect no progress based on what we are seen from leadership at the club

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12 Jun 2015 13:57:25
I hope we don't go down the same road as last year and buy too many players. It took months for some of last years signings to learn the different formations Rodgers wanted them to play.
Surely we should only be signing 1 or 2 quality players who will go straight into our first team.
Maybe this is another reason why Rodgers is not the right man for the job.

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12 Jun 2015 15:15:01
To be fair to the players, it took Rodgers months to figure out his formation,

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12 Jun 2015 15:38:02
WelshBoyDave - Your comment would indicate Rodgers has actually figured out hos formation. He hasn't. He was as clueless at the end of the season as he was at the start.

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12 Jun 2015 21:19:47
And based on what we are seeing, we are doing the exact same thing and BR and the club even after the so called review, still have no idea of what they are doing. So much for the "review"

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12 Jun 2015 13:50:20
Thanks Eds on the info re Kovacic. Not all fans on here expect you guys to reveal everything, especially if it would compromise both yourselves and your source.
Thanks for posting what you can when you, there are a lot more who appreciate some insight over no insight.

Just felt it needed to be said after reading a lengthy list of posts from earlier today.

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12 Jun 2015 14:06:00
well said Renn

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12 Jun 2015 14:07:07
Yes edd thank you. As always you are then only transfer source I trust and I appreciate the info.

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12 Jun 2015 14:09:03
Edd001. Do you know the fee or close to it mate? Cheers

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12 Jun 2015 14:17:43
The fees are never black and white anyway which is why the eds are reluctant to discuss prices I assume.

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12 Jun 2015 21:20:42
The eds are the only reason we all know what we know about our club. Much appreciated, guys!

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12 Jun 2015 13:47:30
For a long time I've been banging on about a passing midfielder and since Alonso left we haven't had anyone to pull the strings in midfield and dictate the football.

Rafa bought Aquaman, Kenny bought Adam and he also gave Spearing a shot, Rodgers bought Allen, yet none of these have been anywhere near good enough to replace Xabi. Could Kovacic be the one or will he be another to add to the list above?

I personally feel he will be a great signing and the most important player we sign this summer. You need 2 playmakers in every team. Someone in attacking midfield to bring creativity and someone in central midfield to dictate the game. Coutinho and Kovacic will be 2 key players for us next season.

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12 Jun 2015 14:13:52

I'd appreciate it if you could post this link so fans can see the type of player Kovacic is. He is exactly what we need.

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12 Jun 2015 14:27:32
Doesn't appear to do a anything that Lucas doesn't do .

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12 Jun 2015 14:34:49
It really depends on how quick he settles and how he is used. he 's coming from a slower league to a manager which couldn't figure out his best team in 9 months- so he's not coming into a settled environment. will he be played out of position until he has a couple of bad games and then dropped? What do we do with BR's other midfield signings? Can? Allen? Amongst many others. I think he could be good but this signing right now, considering the players we have and what we really need doesn't seem to make much sense to me.

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12 Jun 2015 14:18:55
He doesn't have Xabis defensive awareness and positioning but that can be coached. He has great vision and good passing and reads the game very well (from an attacking perspective) so he may fit into that role.

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12 Jun 2015 14:50:11
Red-Rum, he is a good player no doubt but ED001 is spot on in that we don't really need that type of player. Nearly the same as what coutinho and lallana does. We need a proper DM if Lucas is to move and he is not that unfortunetly

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12 Jun 2015 15:25:22
Xabi was never a defensive midfielder tho. He played a lot along side Mascherano. They are completely different qualities. Xabi was a quarter back if you like. Always there to recieve the ball and set up attacks with his play. Mascherano meanwhile ran about like a lunatic and broke up opposing play. So which one is Kovacic? A playmaker (Xabi) or a destroyer (Masch)?

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12 Jun 2015 15:19:13
I'm sorry fatsmahon but I disagree. Lallana and Coutinho are attacking midfielders and would struggle playing in central midfield. How many times last season did we see our defenders with no options to pass to? Too many. Also, when was the last time we saw our midfielders playing quick snappy passes and linking up with one twos etc? Our midfield has been virtually non existent for too long now and Kovacic is the type of player who can solve these problems.

This isn't directly aimed at you, but It really amazes me how many fans can't see that this has been a big problem area for years.

Red Rum

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12 Jun 2015 16:27:01
I have to say I agree with you Red-Rum about the no options part for defenders but Rodgers seems like he doesn't play that type of system where we probably should and that's why i say I don't think he is what we need at the moment. I remember Coutinho did that a lot of that the season before last and it worked great for us but it was non existent this year because of the different formations played. I hope it work out for him Red-Rum cause I just want us to suceed but Rodgers needs to know what exactly want he wants out of the players we have just signed.

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12 Jun 2015 21:30:43
Rum, if our mifdielders have been non existant then you know who you need to blame for that. Who benches Lucas or sells him so he can play an inferior and inconsitent player like Allen? Who plays Can and Hendo out of position all the time? BR is who you wanna whine to so stop trying to say Kova is better than Luca or Can because BR can`t stand one and is destroying the other by hanging him out to dry at CB or RB. Kova is a good player with potential but regardless of how you big him up, he is not what we need because we have issues elsewhere that need addressing. No offence against him as a player BUT we have issues elsewhere that need to be addressed as in a true DM ( instead of Allen who can`t tackle a chair) and a top striker to get the 20 goals we need to compete.

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12 Jun 2015 13:43:48
Ed01, how do you think the signing of bogdan went down at the academy? Surely it's pretty disheartening for not just Danny ward and other players, but all the coaching staff, scouts etc when there's a spot available in the match day squad and we bring someone in from outside the club, who's probably not going to dislodge mingolet, and stop any chances of a youth team graduate making any progress at the club. Surely Danny and the lads must be thinking what's the point and maybe I should be looking elsewhere? I'm not having a go at bogdan himself but it must be frustrating for everyone at the academy when things like this happen.

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12 Jun 2015 14:04:14
Fair point but what usually happens when a young player goes out on loan is that people watch him and don't think he's good enough for first team at Liverpool, but when a young player is on the bench week in week out I feel like they will eventually get a go and are more likely to step up to the plate and take the chance a la flanno(who was written off by club at one point if I recall)

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12 Jun 2015 14:27:27
Thanks for response. I would imagine getting that balance between experience and opportunity right is pretty tough at bigger clubs who don't rely on youth players

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12 Jun 2015 13:39:24
Ed1/ed2 you say deal agreed for kovacic and should go through, it's not been reported anywhere in the Italian or English media??

Thanks

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12 Jun 2015 14:52:30
Strange your getting all these questions about him still Ed. Your info is good enough for me mate. Its about done and should go through yes?

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{Ed001's Note - should do yes.}

12 Jun 2015 13:20:59
Why are you people moaning about the signings of Ings, Bodgan, Milner and kovacic?
Yes we all know a WC striker is required. Do you all seriously think Borini, Balotelli and Lambert will be at the club come the start of the season? The answer is probably no. The transfer window doesn't open for another 2 and a bit weeks yet and look at the comments so far
Those 4 signings are pretty good for the outlay. There will be a striker and defender/s coming in for sure, so why don't you all wait until the transfer window is well and truely open, or even closed before you criticize the business done?
It gets embarrassing daily on here to read some of the comments regarding signings, and constant bashing of the manager from certain individuals. It looks like he's here for another season so we have to get on with it and show some support, like it or not.
Oh and just one more thing regarding Steven Gerrard. It was the right time for him to go. He was finished at Premiership level. Why do people here slate the manager because they didn't offer him stupid money to stay on? You all moan about high wages so why should the club pay him 150k a week when he can't cut it anymore? He's gone, like they all do eventually. We move on, like we always do.
The majority of people on here call themselves Liverpool fans. Seriously? Your an embarrassment to the club. Ed002 has it spot on

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12 Jun 2015 13:17:55
Have to admit that had never heard of Kovacic and knew nothing about him.

With this site as much as confirming the deal will go through i checked him out on Youtube.

I know these videos make most players look decent but this guy looks awesome. Very direct with a lot of pace and power and dare i say it Gerrard-like powering runs from midfield.

Certainly looks everything but a DM to me!

Has anyone actually seen much of him play and can comment on the lad, putting to side whether he is actually needed or not?

Eds, Reds?

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{Ed001's Note - I have not seen a lot of him, I do really like what I have seen, but he is just not what we needed. He is 100% an upgrade to our midfield though.}

12 Jun 2015 13:25:20
Even tho he is an upgrade, why are we buying players we don`t need INSTEAD of addressing the areas we are clearly defecient in as in the forward line? We did this last season by addressing areas we were already ok at BUT the striker position was NEVER addressed and see how we struggled. Ings and Origi will not get you the goals you need and Studge will not stay fit so a top striker is needed badly.

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12 Jun 2015 13:26:53
I did down below check it out. Look for a shrieking cat

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12 Jun 2015 13:51:54
I think he is more of a Sterling replacement. His best position is as a number 10. However you could say the same about Coutinho, Markovic, Lallana. Maybe we are looking to go 4-2-2-2?

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12 Jun 2015 13:56:01
Get over yourself Ffs the transfer window isn't even open yet! The club is obviously going through the review process still, however annoyingly long it seems, let's just hope the right changes will be made, and the club can look forward.

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12 Jun 2015 18:29:16
I think Kovacic is who we need. A deep-lying playmaker would help the team a lot in my opinion. Throughout last season, everyone kept looking to Coutinho to make things happen, but now, he has someone to help him. English fans to think back to how Pirlo and Montolivo totally dominated England in Euro 2012.
I understand some persons being reserved about the signing in light of funds and the number of midfield players we have, but I hope, really hope, that Brendan would let some midfielders go - Allen, and dare I say for fear of backlash, Lucas (even though I love the guy).
I believe if Emre Can plays more in midfield from next season, then we would move on from Lucas.

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12 Jun 2015 13:04:14
Well, we are definitely the Champions at something now - the free transfer. Is this so that BR / Committee can show how 'shrewd' they are ? With the standard of players coming in so far I don't think so. By getting rid of all of BR's assistants, and potentially selling our so called star player is this FSG's policy of no big names in and sell our 'stars'. I can see a lower than half way finish next season, and potentially a relegation battle.

KBL

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12 Jun 2015 13:33:10
I think the club has decided that we are not very good at negotiating transfer fees . It's a little bit hard because clubs don't want to sell their best players for a quarter of their value and nobody seems to want to pay vast amounts for our under-performing surplus players. Best to leave all the tricky financial haggling to other clubs and we can pick up the freebies. So much easier.

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12 Jun 2015 13:39:51
Add that to the fact that we arer buying players we don`t need for stupid fees. We have issues in the forwardline YET we are wasting money on players in positions we are already covered in. Kova might be coming in now and nobody knows how or where we will play or where that would leave Can, Lucas or even the youth players like Rossiter. Yet all we are hearing is how good he would be. In place of who? Can, who has done nothing wrong but but played where he has been asked and made to look useless by a clueless manager? Lucas, who have sacrificed his best years as a LFC player only to be disgracefully disrespected by BR who now wants to replace him with Allen? The tough questions aren`t being asked and the problems at the club from the top-down are not being addressed by the ownership who just seem wanna throw money at everything in a bid to make it go away. If that`s the case, then NOBODY should complain or bitch about how much Chelsea and City spent to get their trophies because we are doing the exact same thing . Stupidly, the diff is that we have NOTHING but a league cup to show for almost 400m spent since FSG got here.

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12 Jun 2015 14:09:22
Just need to get a hold of yourselves lads , milner and inngs are not sureaz or Messi but are both decent additions to our squad. Sterling and a few others might give us a few bob to go after our targets who I admit I don't know anything about . Just wait and see what happens but movements in and out are expected . It's Rogers last throw of the dice and I'm a liverpool fan who bleeds the club but to throw in the towel in June is just mental .

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12 Jun 2015 15:35:03
with it being coutinho's last season before he's off to barca - we need as many creative players as we can get.

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12 Jun 2015 13:02:21
Eds,

I'd like to get to know you folks a bit more, is it possible you folks could do like a Bio on yourselves with like Career history,interests etc.

I think it would be pretty cool to know a bit more about the man/woman behind the mask per se.

Cheers.

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{Ed001's Note - actually that is not a bad idea, I might get something done on this when we have a bit more time.}

12 Jun 2015 13:28:04
Aren't you guys supposed to stay anonymous? So we can guess whos the gigolo and the rodeo clown and the snide ol man?

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{Ed001's Note - I never said they would be serious ones......}

12 Jun 2015 13:37:26
Ed001, Didn't you do one a few years back when it was just Football Rumours where you gave your names and short history ie, football journalist and writers. I remember a few months back i went on a link and it came up again?

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{Ed001's Note - I don't remember sorry.}

12 Jun 2015 14:31:24
Not serious ones. Ed001 that's not on!

Everyone knows that I was born in the jungle and was raised by a pack of wolves, who called me Mowgli. Then, when I was older they said that I had to leave them and return to the man village with a black panther as my guide, he was called Bagheera. Apparently I was in danger from a Bengal tiger named Shere Khan. I met a bear named Baloo, and a orangutan named King Louie on my journey to the man village.

When I was 20 I was the one that found Hitler's body in his bunker in Belin. He didn't shoot himself in the head, that's a lie. He had a nut allergy unbeknown to many, and I found him with an open packet of Big D salted nuts next to him.

After that I can of laid low for a while until the Russians sent me into orbit in 1961.

Then in 1981 I was shot protecting President Reagan, now though, I just grow cucumbers in my green house at the bottom of my garden. I know I've not done much with my life Ed001 but at least it's out there, and 100% fact which is what we need from you and the other Ed's.

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{Ed001's Note - are you sure you haven't been reading Ed002's autobiography?}

12 Jun 2015 15:18:23
I might have Ed001, what's it called? I think I do read to much, as you can tell. I'm like Bill O'Reilly on Fox News, if I have seen a picture of it then I tell everyone I was there and it happened to me.

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{Ed001's Note - it is called 'Adventures In The Life Of A Gentleman Rodeo Clown'. I have no idea who Bill O'Reilly is, though I did once make the mistake of catching Fox News, never again.}

12 Jun 2015 16:20:59
Look him up if you ever get five minutes to yourself, the man is a conservative, and very right wing. There was a news story about an anchor on NBC, or one of those stations, who said he had come under while he was travelling in a helicopter during the Iraq war. But it turned out that he was actually a few helicopters back and he hadn't been involved in the exchange of fire.

So this Bill O'Reilly from Fox News liked to tell everyone that he had seen action in Northern Ireland, the Falklands and that he saw nuns being killed in El Salvador to name but a few. Turns out that he actually had saw most of this stuff via photos, he never went to the Falklands he only got as far as Argentina.

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12 Jun 2015 12:58:58
Not sure I understand signing Kovacic.

Does this spell the end for Teixeira? With Coutinho and Lallana already playing in the same role as Kovacic - no room for Teixeira surely.

More money down the drain - well done everyone!

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12 Jun 2015 13:15:15
I understand kovacic is similar to texeira in some aspects but he is miles miles ahead of texeira. Plus texeira has a broken leg. So o highly doubt he has a future with us

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12 Jun 2015 13:16:45
And for the love of god kovacic is a damn central midfielder. Not a winger nor an attacking midfielder. He has not played i'm that position for years now. By that basis would you say tjat gareth bale plays i'm the same position as Jose Enrique?

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12 Jun 2015 13:53:29
Reet, Kovacic is a wasteful signing because we don`t need him. Comparing him with tex is a false argument which I will not get into. Kova is a good player BUT where does that leave Can, Lucas or the other youth players? BR wants Lucas gone so his BFF Allen can play at DM where he is woeful. Where on earth is that logical? What about the issues we have upfront that are not being addressed because we all know Ings and Origi won`t cut it and Studge can`t stay fit? These are the issues no one`s talking about because all people wanna do is sweep them under the carpet all in the name of the very tiring "support the club no matter what" BS. We have issues that need to be dealt with on and off the pitch and signing un-needed players to appease the fans will not solve them.

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12 Jun 2015 14:41:10
Wherw have I swept the striker issue in the carpet? Or anybody else has for that matter ? O know you don't like br I also don't but criticizing and lambasting every single move the club makes. And how is the comparison to twxeira false? Can Hendo Kova and allen dtas gud enough. Lucas is leaving so stop crying for him like a poor old ex. Kovacic is an improvement on our ENTIRE MIDFIELD bar CoutinhoIMO .And the statement that kovacic is not needed is your opinion not a fact . Some on here are genuinely happy tobsee a tru quality player signed a player for whom we were competing with Barcelona rather than burying hik before he signs. I sometimes think what would happy is some prospective signing read our page. Being called a player for whom we have thrown money down the drain would surely appease anyone. And no I'm not a Rodgers in guy. On fact I Didn't even supplied him
Peace out
Rant over

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12 Jun 2015 15:37:04
lallana don't do much and coutinho will be off to barca soon - so 'yes' we need him.

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12 Jun 2015 12:57:05
First time poster here. I just know that everybody here is furious that Lucas seems to be hounded out of the club. I think it has been quite clear for some time that BR doesn't quite fancy using a defensive midfielder. Yes, we had our best spell last year with Lucas in the side but we weren't necessarily creating an awful lot. Agree or disagree, that is his philosophy and hence Kovacic. I still believe we can compete with this side if we replace Skrtel and Migs. They are the two who prevent us from playing that high line. Unfortunately, without Skrtel, we just look very very average at set pieces, irrespective of what you think of how he defends those. I just hope we buy one mobile striker and use Illori. And please no more midfielders. We have Coutinho, Markovic, Ibe and Lallana for two positions. And this is assuming Sterling leaves and Tex goes out on loan. Also would like to see us defending with a proper back four even if we have a RB and LB out of the academy. They will surely defend well

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12 Jun 2015 14:03:38
Red, we have been saying that no more mds need since last season and YET we are getting one in we don`t need and sending one out we DO need. This is not a question about agreeing or disagreeing. It is a question of logical reasoning. How can we sell lucas who is a DM and replace him with Allen who is inferior to him or with Kova who is not a DM? Where does that leave Can? You mentioned the issues we had and i agree especially, in the forward line where a top striker is needed. But we continue to address the wrong positions on the field because BR is obssessed with mids. We played seven mids vs Stoke and how did that turn out? Like I said, we are continueing to see the same recurrent mistakes and the owners still endorsed this failure of a manager that they have admitted they don`t trust. The owners will be the ones to blame when this ends in sobs because based on what we are seeing, it will.

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12 Jun 2015 12:49:35
Hi eds,

Sorry I know you haven't got a crystal ball, but I value your opinion. Can you see us signing another striker?

Cheers
SA

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{Ed001's Note - only if we offload some players.}

12 Jun 2015 13:36:34
Im quietly freaking out about the amount of players we have on our books (and adding to) while being in such a poor financial position. Hopefully i'm overreacting and by the end of the transfer period things will look a lot clearer.

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12 Jun 2015 14:48:14
We spent a good 2 years in the Kenny/ start of BR era getting rid of surplus players and now we find ourselves in a worse position! Unbelievable what Rodgers has been allowed to do.

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12 Jun 2015 12:49:02
Letting Lucas leave would be one of the biggest mistakes Rodgers could make this summer but it might just be a blessing in disguise because Can might finally get a run at DM which is supposedly his natural position. I know I speak for many fans when I say that Can's potential as a midfielder is exciting, but from what we have seen last season, Bodgers will probably play him at RB whilst rotating between Bogdan and world class Origi as DM in a 'quarterback' role with Borini finally getting a chance at LB since Moreno has had to relocate to CAM due to the lack of attacking midfielders we have, which is why signing Kovacic, Gotze, Kagawa and Isco is a must for this transfer window. I am sure that Messi and Ronaldo would be gutted from having missed out on a transfer to Liverpool because who else would want to miss getting smashed 6-1 by Stoke in another transitional season? However, their character is just not outstanding enough, and that is why Balo will stay, Ings who wouldn't take a pen because he was afraid is going to join with Ibra and Tevez also joining to keep Enrique company in a season long sojourn in Dubai. This is of course assuming that Sterling will leave or they'd join him on a holiday in Jamaica too. But since Rodgers is just that good at man management, he'd bring back Michael Owen just so he can get injured and thus, Sturridge will have someone to talk to while recuperating. This is obviously speculation on how this summer's going to turn out, but boy am I excited about this coming season with Rodgers at the helm.

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12 Jun 2015 14:15:16
If you sell Lucas, get a DM who is an upgrade on him INSTEAD of replacing him with Allen which is what BR really wants to do but can`t tell you because it makes no sense to any one with half a brain cell. BR is at the helm because the owners have rewarded failure and backed a manager they themselves don`t even trust hence, the shambles is a top-down issue. BR won`t change and the Kova signing proves it because he`s a good player we don`t need and issues are not being addressed BUT to him, Origi is world class jus like he said with Borini when he arrived YET never gave the boy a real chance. The incompetence is deafening.

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12 Jun 2015 12:47:36
Eds i see you say we agreed a fee for kovacic and what not but don't you think it's weird that not a single paper is reporting apart from la gazzeta dello sport? I know you're not into speculation and rumours and all but don't you think it's a bit weird?

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{Ed001's Note - why? They are newspapers, they will pick up on it in time. They are just a bit slow.}

12 Jun 2015 13:41:16
AbDi78, that is the reason we all use this site. a lot of the time most paper journos view this site as well for information. Great work yet again Ed's.

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12 Jun 2015 12:43:23
I still see the odd headline about Rodgers being vulnerable in his position. Some still link Klopp.

Why is anyone still questioning Rodgers job? He had the meeting and survived. The club have said nothing, cause they never do. Assistants have gone, but like Barca the assistants aren't always chosen by the manager/coach.

Why are questions still being asked on here?
It's done now

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12 Jun 2015 13:08:57
When I was about 4 I wanted a supermobile from Santa. Didn't get it but kept hoping Santa would remember and bring it later. I was disappointed every day for about a month. It's the same reading the sports headlines every day. I guess people just hope for good.

So I'm going to keep hoping for Klopp for a while yet. You never know, Brenda could be offered a job modelling for Colgate.

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12 Jun 2015 13:56:05
Says who Max? The Brodge's mates in the press?

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12 Jun 2015 14:27:25
Maxx,you are asking the wrong questions. How come he survived after such a dreadful season where no other top4 club would have kept him in charge especially after the Stoke Massacre or are we going to act like that didn`t happen under his watch or is that the commitee`s fault again? Also, how did he survive YET his loyal assistants (Pascoe was with him for years)got the boot when HE is the one who has the final say on selection, transfers and tactics? What type of review from the top down could yield such a dreadful and cowardly decision? Even SG asked that same question the other day in the Daily mail. Is he deluded as wel? I propose you go to the other rumours page and read the comments by Ed01 on how the ownsers are taking the club deeper into the abyss with their clueless approach and keeping BR was part of that approach. After you read those, we can discuss.

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12 Jun 2015 12:36:54
Question for ed 001,

Do you think milner might be used wide? Either as wingback or as RM? Kovacevic is not familiar with playing wide so he's far more likely to play central and with Henderson can and coutinho all being more comfortable in the middle it seems reasonable that milner had been recruited for wide midfield, perhaps to plug our weak right side with his workrate.

Would you say this seems accurate?

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{Ed001's Note - yes I would.}

12 Jun 2015 12:47:20
I am very surprised the Kovacic deal is going through; I would have thought Milner would have taken Gerrard's place in the squad, but clearly, Kovacic is the guy roped in to play as a central player. Perhaps Milner will be taking up Sterling's position in the squad.

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12 Jun 2015 13:06:15
More likely Kovacic replacing Sterling , IF we sign him.

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12 Jun 2015 13:12:46
I was expecting somebody to think of this. I think Milner is good as a wide midfielder, but to be honest I've never seen him play more than a couple of games in the middle. Just because the guy likes playing there doesn't mean that he will be there for Liverpool.
I could quite easily see him alternating with Ibe as wing back/wide right. With Kovacic maybe coming in and Coutinho and Henderson pretty much guaranteed starters I don't know what this means for Lallana, Allen, Markovic.
I think Sterlings replacement is already here.
This is all just guesswork obviously but I think just a striker to come in now and selling some players off.

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12 Jun 2015 14:09:13
Why do pEople think milner replaces gerrarD?

They have c0mpletley d1fferent playIng Styles. milner is much more henderson thAn gerrard. Don't really get the comparIson, Crazy really you Know.

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12 Jun 2015 14:21:15
Not as a like for like replacement, but more as in a central midfielder out, a central midfielder in.

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12 Jun 2015 14:37:08
And where does that leave Can, lucas and the other prospects we have in the academy or are they suddenly sacrificial lambs/ Kova can`t play wide so no point playing him there and frankly, there`s no point of him coming in here because we have bigger issues to address uptop instead of another mid who will end up playing wingback or CB like Can, lallana, Ibe, Sterling, marko and God knows who else.

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12 Jun 2015 12:19:49
Now we've confirmed we're signing Ed Sheeran as goalkeeper will all his future gigs be at Anfield.

Kidding aside, welcome Adam Bogdan and I hope you punch (and keep) above your weight and our expectations.

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12 Jun 2015 12:19:13
Just a little bit of info on Bogdan. I have seen people say he has been consistent for them and solid but I have been looking at stats for last season where he only managed 13 appearances and this is due to injuries and form coming back from injuries. In these 13 game he conceded 18 goals. One positive is that out of keepers in the champ with 10+ apps he is only behind Kuszczak averaging 4.1 saves per game. I'm not saying he will flop or be a success but if we wanted a keeper to compete with Mignolet then this is not the signing we want, but if we want someone to sit on the bench whilst sometimes being injured then it is fine with me as our young keepers could also get a chance.

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12 Jun 2015 12:49:16
LFC opted to bring in a back-up 'keeper instead of genuine competition or a replacement to Mignolet. Good luck to Bogdan though.

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12 Jun 2015 15:49:06
Yeah, Mingo can sleep easy. Just like keeping BR, the club have opted for the easy route instead of showing some courage and making the tough decisions.

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12 Jun 2015 12:14:53
Just wondering Eds - how many more do you expect to arrive now?

3 confirmed in Ings, Milner and Bogdan - and from what you say, a 4th in Kovacic (however messy the deal. )

My worry - and I'm sure with many others is that we are going to end up with 8/9/10 coming in again

I know there is "dead wood" to be shifted, but squads to bring success can't be bringing in that many players season after season - surely?

Or is this what you mean by bulldozing their way to success?

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{Ed001's Note - I do expect a couple more deals this summer, a lot depends on outs now, so it is difficult to be sure.}

12 Jun 2015 12:28:57
So. add Origi to that and we could be heading for 8 players.

I long for the summers day on Sky Sports News where it only says 2 or 3 players in!! Ha!!

Thanks for all your on-going insight ED's - The Kovacic deal in particular, whatever it is. The silence over the particulars really does keep me on the: "I don't want to know" side!

Cheers.

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12 Jun 2015 12:36:55
The term dead wood is a terrible term. The players are just trying to do their job, at best you should criticize the people who bought them.

Some things needs to be resolved or else we will keep on being a team in transition.

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12 Jun 2015 12:45:19
True - I see your point on the terminology.

Personally, I'd only like to see 2 or 3 go and 2 or 3 come in.

We just never seem to be able to do that or be in that position - for whatever reason

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12 Jun 2015 12:49:54
Only 2 more are really needed IMO - a striker and a right back.

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{Ed001's Note - why do we need a right back? Surely a keeper and defensive midfielder are much bigger holes in the squad?}

12 Jun 2015 13:06:29
Agree with Ag here. As much i'd want lucas is going and Rodgers is never going to use a defensive midfielder. So i guess kovacic to replace ro3it is them. Obviously everyone realizes that we need a striker. As for a rb well McLaughlin is hugely injury prone and wisdom o don't quite rate tbh. So get aubamayeng and clyne sell sterling balo borini lambo etc and I'd actually be optimistic for the new season

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12 Jun 2015 13:28:05
Based on the interest in Clyne, Byram and Trippier, I would think the club are looking to bring in a RB. And clearly, they are also trying to bring in a striker. That's why I think a striker and a right back will come in, ED001. No interest has been shown in a defensive midfielder, and Bogdan has already joined, so I can't see them being viable.

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{Ed001's Note - you said needed mate.}

12 Jun 2015 13:52:23
ed no chance we could do some sort of swap deal between lucas and gary medel?

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{Ed001's Note - no. We would have to want to sign Medel for there to be any chance.}

12 Jun 2015 14:22:23
So I did. Apologies ED001.

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{Ed001's Note - no worries mate.}

12 Jun 2015 16:01:06
There are other RB`s out there that are defensively better than Clyne. In fact to me, Wisdom is better defensively than Clyne and is very good on the ball as well. Mac I`m afraid, has lost his chanceClyne plays in a system where he is always attacking and defends poorly. Sound familiar? Give wisdom a chance instead of signing another RB for stupid money, again. I would also like to add that we need another top striker because Ings and Origi ain`t going to give you the goals you need and Studge is one sprint away from pulling something.

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12 Jun 2015 11:52:22
We were once one of the most respected clubs in the world! The fact that we are rapidly losing that respect and are being ridiculed left and right is what hurts me the most! Right now i don't care what happens on the field. Is it too much to ask to act professionally as a club and business?

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12 Jun 2015 16:05:54
Ain`t going to happen if our leadership or lack thereof, keep showing a disgraceful attitude towards other clubs and the manager show said attitude to his own players. We also seem to have this stupid arrogance and a pointless sense of entitlement that truly boggles the mind because frankly, we have been aweful almost across the board in the past 5 years hence, don`t understand why many of us think success is our birth right. It starts from the top and based on the lack of vision, structure and courage to make hard decisions and not daring to dream, we will be left behind even fruther, i`m afraid.

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12 Jun 2015 11:48:17
I think most people are aware of Mario Balotelli's hunger for the game, but with Ings coming in and with the (hopeful) assumption that Liverpool are still in the market for a decent striker, is he aware that he might receive a lot of game time like last season? Is he accepting of this?

Now I'll ask the question that's probably worthy of an answer but is there any update on his status? Sampdoria and all that jazz?

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{Ed001's Note - we are still asking too much.}

12 Jun 2015 12:27:39
Sampdoria (like many teams) see him as too much of a risk for a straight sale and will look for loan with option to buy (at a much lower price than we are asking), I wouldn't expect any movement there.

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12 Jun 2015 12:40:29
How much are we asking?

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12 Jun 2015 13:08:51
A penny and permission for balotelli to become the fireworks incharge for when we win the league next year. 😁

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12 Jun 2015 16:37:00
Stupidy, we are asking too much for a guy nobody really wants.

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12 Jun 2015 11:47:41
Ed1

If you're about mate. I see that you have been criticizing the signing of kovacic as being not needed. Me meanwhile have been trying to defend it vehemently. Ny question is mate forgetting for a min di we need him or not what do you think of him as player ed?

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{Ed001's Note - I think he is an excellent player, he is without doubt good enough. My criticism is not regarding his ability. If we had a decent keeper, the defence sorted, a defensive midfielder who isn't being forced out of the club and a top class striker who could stay fit, then he would be a great signing.}

12 Jun 2015 12:09:11
I don't think we'll ever have a decent keeper the defense will never be sorted under rodgers lucas will inevitably leave with kovacic replacing him and i do think he can play there amd i ma hopefulwe will sign a new striker hopefully pray to god its higuain

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12 Jun 2015 12:20:21
Fingers crossed ed that we get similarly great players in the other positions you mentioned.
However I seriously doubt it, we will blow whatever money we have on this attacking mid and panic buy the rest as usual.

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12 Jun 2015 12:57:10
Ed1 is on the money here. If we'd had a decent defence and keeper 2 seasons ago we'd have won the league.

We didn't address the Mignolet or Skrtel problems and still haven't.

I think we were almost forced into the back three system because we didn't have reliable full backs. Nothing has changed there.

For me Sakho and Lovren are too left footed to be a pair.

Let's hope Flanagan gets back to where he was. Even if he does we need to either make bets on Llori and Wisdom and give them time to settle (which means being a bit patients do forgiving as they settle) or we've got to be active in the market for defenders.

I'd move on Migs but I don't think it will happen. We'd be better off spending big on Lloris or paying Cech whatever he wants (if they would come to us anyway) than by shelling out for more midfielders.

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12 Jun 2015 14:12:41
ed001 are we following any cdm?

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{Ed001's Note - no.}

12 Jun 2015 16:59:45
Reet, if all you say is true which it clearly is, why are we not getting rid of the people in charge of fixing those issues instead of acting as if signings will automatically fix the things a coaching staff should be able to do after three years or acting as if these issues will either fix themselves or no longer exist? That is my biggest gripe here. Bottom line is Kova is a good player who is not needed and all the issues you raised will not be fixed by signing this or that player because it is not their job to do the job a manager has consistently faileed to do. Thinking that just spending money on signing player needed or not, will fix our recurring issues is just foolish.

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12 Jun 2015 11:45:09
Seems to be a lot of double standards/contradictions on here lately.

We sign Bogdan and "he's not good enough we need genuine competition".

Then we sign Kovacic and it's all "what about Can and Coutinho? Now they have competition for their places!"

If we sign a young player it's "they're blocking the progression of our own academy".

Then we sign Milner and it's all "omg he's nearly 30 and on top wages!".

People are screaming from the roof to sign players for right back and left wing etc. But then we sign them and it'll suddenly be "omg, Konoplyanka and Clyne are just stealing game time from Ibe and Wisdom".

Seriously people, get a bloody grip.

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12 Jun 2015 12:08:54
I suspect if we sign a top striker you won't get a whinge from anyone though. tells you everything you need to know doesn't it ;)

Funny that's the only position not being widely rumoured at the moment apart from Benteke a whole back who very few seem to think suits our style (including myself)

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12 Jun 2015 12:10:26
Well said Adam. Ecstatic with the kovacic signing. What do you think of kova mate?

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12 Jun 2015 12:11:11
Sounds like quotes from your archived posts Adam ;)

Red Rum

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12 Jun 2015 12:15:05
They are players we do not need and do not sort out our problems. Mignolet needed replaced with a top class goalkeeper. Milner is not the midfielder we needeD and ings is not the striker we need.We should have signed 3 players to fill the positions we needed. Not 3 and looking at the first team with no improvement.
Read the posts properly

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12 Jun 2015 12:53:06
I think Kovacic is potentially world class. Barcelona don't consider average players.

He can play on the wing, in attacking midfield, box to box and even as a deep lying playmaker. I personally prefer him in attacking midfield. Either way he is a class signing. He will be a long term solution to our central midfield along with Hendo and Can. It allows Coutinho to play a little further up without sacrificing any creativity from our deeper midfielders.

Red Rum, probably mate, but I seem to be the only guy not moaning this summer haha. I believe in giving youth a chance but I am also strongly for signing people to provide genuine competition. I also think it's wise to have senior players available for every position.

I think the only signing I've moaned about in the last 5 years was Moreno purely because I knew he couldn't defend and Bertrand was available for cheaper.

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12 Jun 2015 13:17:49
Helloci am not moaning

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12 Jun 2015 13:18:12
Infact i am strangely optimistic for the coming season. Not that i want br here or anything

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12 Jun 2015 13:18:41
ings is an alright signing, Milner good but not needed, kovacic good, not needed, and lucas our only DM leaving.

But what does it mean for can and lucas? Milner wants to play midfield, kovacic is a midfielder, coutinho plays better centrally and henderson as well - not mentioning youth players at all who may as well pack their bags. How are you going fit all these players together? Have can lucas henderson coutinho kovacic milner players who want to start and need regular football.

With sterling wanting out thought we needed a top striker, a winger, a DM, a keeper to push mign and maybe a RB - we bought a striker who is a good signing but a risk, two CMs, and a keeper who isn't going to push mignolet.

Signing loads of good players we probably don't need instead of getting a few top players is where we went wrong last summer and looks the same again

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12 Jun 2015 13:23:49
Barcelona don't consider average players?
Song and Jeremy mathieu Are two of the woRst sIgnings barca ever made. Every club gets players wrong however to judge a player as potentially worldclass because barca were interested is ridiculous. He's a very good player but when lucas leaves we hhave created even more of a defensive problem. We have not bought the correct midfielders, not a question of their ability

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12 Jun 2015 13:47:52
Roland
Spot on! One fan who speaks the only sense on this page!

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12 Jun 2015 17:25:17
Again people are asking the wrong questions and expecting the right answers, EMS. As the others have said on this thread, we are buying players we don`t need. We did that last season and see where that got us? We have glaring probs in the team that need addressing YET we are buy players to address probs we don`t have. How hard is it to understand that? We have issues in the DM role, GK, and in attack (Ings and Origi won`t fix those so no need mentioning them) with a top striker, DM and a GK to compete with Mingo YET we are spending money on a very good player YET one we absolutely don`t need. We have learnt nothing from last season and if those issues are not addressed this summer, good luck with getting anywhere this season

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12 Jun 2015 11:43:50
{Ed001's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Man City Should Steer Clear Of Sterling

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12 Jun 2015 11:48:53
Ed1
I hope sheik mansour doesn't read this website :-P

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{Ed001's Note - I doubt if he bothers, he has plenty of other things to fill his time.}

12 Jun 2015 11:56:48
DON'T post stuff like that up until we have got their money already!

Sheesh!

lol

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12 Jun 2015 12:27:05
Good post.
I wouldn't go anywhere near him if I was at any buying club until he dropped that poisonous agent of his.

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12 Jun 2015 11:27:10
Out
Gerard.
Lucas.
Johnson
Sterling
Balo
Borini
Marqu

Gerard Lucas covered by Can and Milner
Origi and Ings cover Balo and Borini
We are looking at right backs and £30-35 million from Sterling to cover others as Ibe should get more time.
I'm reasonable optimistic hopefully BR is learning to keep quiet and he improved his tactical awareness

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12 Jun 2015 11:18:44
We have learnt absolutely nothing from our transfer failings. It is extraordinary and embarrassing. We have signed 3 players so far and not one has improved the first team. As I said before how many more before we improve the first team 6?
And it is not abuse! It's a valid post. they will get serious abuse if we have another terrible season which does look possible. And it won't be the players fault. The club chose to buy them. And this is what I also said. If thEse players weren't free' there is not a chance we would have bought them. So what does that tell us? Not that fsg won't spend but that the committee assume there is no risk like fans. But what they do add is more numbers to the squad and less chances for youngsters

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12 Jun 2015 12:12:53
Disagree 100% - would you rather have Ings over Balo long term? I worship Gerard but would take Milner over him based on age alone. Neither will guarantee top 4 but both are improvements IMO and very good value as free agents.

I would however start to worry if we don't sign a top striker and a solid FB before season starts. If we do that then we're set.

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12 Jun 2015 12:18:31
Ings is a definite improvement on borini balo lambert and sterling in the striker role, milner is an improvement on Joe Allen and bogdan is better than Brad Jones. So all 3 are improvements in the positions they were signed for and all for 5-6m, good business. Now we do need to spend the money saved on quality but so far business has been good if not that exciting.

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12 Jun 2015 17:55:13
Business has been disappointing, average at best. The comparison is also misleading because the bar is very low when comparing Ings to those who frankly, rarely got games bar balo who was a failed gamble. Bogdan is no upgrade on Jones because he`s a reserve keeper as well at Bolton and having one good game against an LFC team that played no strikers doesn`t change that. That asisde, potatoe is right. The players we bought or are looking to buy are not player we need because they will not improve on what we already have. Can, Hendo and Lucas are very good players for which those signed or willing to sign are no upgrades on them so why are we acting as if they are? As for Ings and Origi, they are options off the bench and not 15-20 goal strikers yet at least. so where are we? We are exactly where we were last season with the dreadful results we all know and if anyone thinks that doing the exact same thing with the same failure of a manager, will change the outcome then he needs his head examined.

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12 Jun 2015 11:10:06
I would like to hear how you think the top10 next season will look like. Mine is the following:

1. Chelsea
2. Arsenal
3. Man united
4. Tottenham
5. Man City
6. Liverpool
7. Southampton
8. West ham
9. Newcastle
10. Bournemouth

Feel free to criticize.

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12 Jun 2015 11:22:13
Everyone is entitled to an opinion and mine is no more valid than yours, but I do think you have greatly overestimated Spurs ability to improve and City's likely decline. Agree on the first and second place

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12 Jun 2015 11:26:15
City in 5th? Below spurs?

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12 Jun 2015 11:26:54
1.Man City
2.Arsenal
3.Chelsea
4.Man Utd
5.Liverpool
6.Everton
7.Spurs
8.Southampton
9.Stoke
10.Newcastle

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12 Jun 2015 11:30:22
Stopped reading after Tottenham lol.
Mine would be
Chelsea
Arsenal
Manchester United
Liverpool ( What can i say ever the optimist)
Manchester City
Tottenham Southampton
Stoke
West Ham
Everton

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12 Jun 2015 11:35:33
I think after the window closes Utd will be looking very good for a challenge . We will be mixing it in the lower end of the top half of table

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12 Jun 2015 11:37:06
CitEh reaDy f0r a tr1p outsIde the top 4? Surely it cAn't happen Dude? I don't think it Can, who Knows?

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12 Jun 2015 11:41:52
I'm Going to be hugely optimistic hear and go for this

1. Chelsea
2. Man city
3. Arsenal
4. Liverpool
5. Man utd
6. Southampton
7. Swansea
8. Tottenham
9. Newcastle
10.Stoke

Purely going by the signings/possible signings of players for these teams.I also think City will run Chelsea very close this season!

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12 Jun 2015 11:59:24
Probably a better idea to see how the squads line up come the new season

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12 Jun 2015 12:05:33
1 Chelsea
2 Man U
3 City
4 Arsenal
5 LFC
6 Spurs
7 Everton
8 Southampton
9 Stoke
10 Swans

Depending on window 7-10 may change and i wouldn't discount 'Palace'sneaking in there !!!

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12 Jun 2015 12:25:01
I'd go with

1. Chelsea
2. Arsenal
3. City
4. United
5. Southampton
6. Spurs
7. Everton
8. Stoke
9. Swansea
10. Leicester
11. Palace
12. Bournemouth
13. Newcastle
14. West Brom
15. West Ham
16. Watford
17. Liverpool
18. Norwich
19. Villa
20. Sunderland.

I really think a squad which shows the character ours does has the ability to stay up in such a tough league

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12 Jun 2015 12:31:19
I think the top 4 will be the usual Chelsea, United, Arsenal and City with Liverpool, Spurs, Everton, Swansea and Southampton battling for 5-9th - any particular order wouldn't surprise me outside the top 4.

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12 Jun 2015 14:02:44
We might sneak top 10

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12 Jun 2015 11:10:04
i haven't really watched kovacic play and refuse to watch youtube clips of him as they make every player look good. Can someone who watches serie a or croatia explain what type of midfielder he is and will he be an improvement on what we already have?

thanks

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12 Jun 2015 11:32:42
He is an excellent dribbler with very good ball skills. He has a good build quite similar to Gerrard in terms if size. He started out as an attacking midfielder playing for Zagreb but now is more of a central midfielder though he can play as adeep lying playmaker where i personally think he should be employed along with hendo and milner in a. Three man midfield assuming lucas leaves.
Great signing imo

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12 Jun 2015 12:17:06
I'm not a big fan of YouTube videos either, they can be very deceiving. However, Google "Kovacic Vs". And that should come up with videos showing everything he did in one particular game. That will give you a better idea of what he is capable of, rather than highlight reels.

Red Rum

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{Ed001's Note - but what about what he does off the ball? That is as important as what he does with the ball, or even more important. Does he create space for himself and others with his movement? Does he cover passing lanes or cover gaps defensively? Etc etc.}

12 Jun 2015 12:32:44
He is more of a creative attacking midfielder at present but a coach from inter told me not too long ago that he believed kovacevic (with a bit of work) could become a complete box to box midfielder as his reading of the game is excellent and just needs to work on his timing and tackling. His is very level headed and down to earth and is well liked at inter.

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12 Jun 2015 14:18:12
Any chance one of the eds can profile the player for us on what type of player he is and what the thinking might of been behind his signing ?

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{Ed001's Note - I will ask Ed008 if he can do anything, he watches a lot of Italian football so would have a better idea.}

12 Jun 2015 10:58:32
Ed your in bad oul form today. What's up??

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{Ed001's Note - ? I am actually in a good mood, just very busy.}

12 Jun 2015 10:57:38
hi eds,
just want to know if Montoya is highly rated. I've rarely seen him play due to Dani Alves being in the team. I saw somebody say he is completely average but you just feel that someone who joined barca at the age of 8, was promoted to the senior squad and is still there at 24 must have some sort of quality about him. How does he compared to clyne? Considering clyne is being valued at 15m, would 7m for montoya be a good deal?

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{Ed001's Note - he was highly rated as a youngster, but now he is unwanted by Barca as he has not made the most of his potential. He is not worth pursuing, though I am unconvinced Clyne is a worthwhile choice either, as he would not have Wanyama covering the gaps with us.}

12 Jun 2015 11:33:38
Any advances by us towards clyne eds? Now that Southampton look closer to signing the Lisbon defender e

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{Ed001's Note - they are still trying to persuade Clyne to see his new deal, but it looks less and less likely. They wanted to add a right back anyway as that is one area that the youth team does not have one stand out prospects to provide cover for the first team.}

12 Jun 2015 12:30:43
Anyone looking at wanyama

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{Ed001's Note - not right now. Southampton paid a large amount for him, that has to be factored in when you consider whether to look at a player. No point looking at one that is going to be prohibitively expensive for what he is. Wanyama is now going to be one of those players that will become of interest later in the window, when some clubs are flush with cash from sales and need to fill a gap quickly. Though it is doubtful Saints would be interested in parting with him.}

12 Jun 2015 18:03:53
In other wards if you cannot place a player in the same conditions to succed as he was in his former club, stay away from said player. Good one, Ed.

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12 Jun 2015 23:12:58
Cheers for the reply

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12 Jun 2015 10:53:41
Hey ed001,

Do you think bogdan is better than jones?
I know you don't rate mignolet at all, but still do you see bogdan as a good enough back up keeper?

Also, like ed002 said, kovacic deal is almost done. Is anyone from our midfield leaving or we are going to play all mfs again just like last match with stoke?

Thanks in advance.

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{Ed001's Note - yes, but that is not really saying a lot, Jones was one of the worst keepers we have had in recent years. Bogdan is a decent Championship keeper, no more.

The most likely to leave is still Lucas, sadly.}

12 Jun 2015 11:17:18
So the club is signing its 100th CAM in Kovacic at the expense of the only true CDM at the club in Lucas? Sounds like a thing only LFC would do. This club just does not cease to amaze me(and not in a good way).
Apart from Lucas, does anyone see the club forcing Brendan to get rid of Allen who will not serve any purpose to the club with the sheer amount of mids already at the club plus Kovacic? I can see clueless Brendan shoehorning Milner and Can into the CDM role permanently at Lucas' expense and then the club will pay the price for such a shocking decision next season. what's the bet the club will concede another 50 goals in the premier league next season? And still no sign of a quality striker that will score enough goals to get the club back into the top4. This window could be worse than last season's and a genuine worry for LFC's supporters.

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12 Jun 2015 12:46:36
My concern is Lucas is Coutinho's very close family friend. Watch the little magician ask for a move next year.

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12 Jun 2015 13:22:58
Indian Buzzer
Rodgers has been trying to shoehorn Allen into the team for 3 years
After getting Gerrard to leave and getting close to pushing Lucas out he thinks he has finally found a formation that allows him to use Allen as the heartbeat or deep lying / play making midfielder with Henderson and Milner just in front

His whole dossier must have been based on the brilliance / character / technical ability of Allen

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12 Jun 2015 13:53:12
I to would like to see allen go but I am not as impressed with Lucas as mny are. He is just to slow. When the ball gets knocked in behind him he is out of the game for to long.
Kovacic would be a good signing in my opinion, if we can get him.I have serious doubts about that despite what the press says.

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12 Jun 2015 18:05:34
The fact that BR was and is still ready to sell Lucas for Allen tells you that the only way Allen would leave is if BR was sacked.

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12 Jun 2015 10:38:42
So that's almost the backbone of the team sorted - new goalie, midfielder and forward. Get Mica Richards in on a free then that's the centre back sorted!! so the spine of the team is well set for next season. Sell Sterling and pick up a few players to fill the other positions and we're rocking n rolling

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{Ed001's Note - Richards is not going to fix anything, even if the attitude was sorted and he actually bothered to make an effort in training rather than dicked off with Balotelli, he is not very good and extremely injury prone.}

12 Jun 2015 10:48:20
Ed, it was tongue-in-cheek mate. For the 3 we've brought in I would have preferred to have our youngster given a chance. And Llori would do a much better job than Richards.

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{Ed001's Note - my grand mother would do a better job than Richards, ok her zimmer frame might make controlling the ball a little awkward but it would make it very difficult for anyone to get at the ball......}

12 Jun 2015 10:57:58
He did have great potential though didn't he?
I remember watching him and thinking he could be an England international for years to come, shame some players don't know how lucky they are,

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{Ed001's Note - attitude mate. He was last on the training pitch and first off it, never put any effort in and so was never fit.}

12 Jun 2015 11:01:20
Richard's is the big, strong player that British coaches love!! Talking about spine of the team, how did we not win the title with Reina, Carra, SG and Torres I will never know!!

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12 Jun 2015 18:06:45
Samp, that is a Dear Rafa question

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12 Jun 2015 10:22:28
So kovacic looking likely. again not sure if we would be using our limited funds on a cm but it is what it is. wish him all the best if he signs.

As for the sterling money we get, not sure about who we want to replace him (if any) but personally i think going for kono is a nobrainer.
Woild love to hear your opinions

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12 Jun 2015 10:45:38
Play ibe more regularly and attempt to buy higuain

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12 Jun 2015 11:04:21
I really don´t understand the kovacic signing. Henderson, Milner, Can, Allen, Lucas. I guess Milner has been promised to be played a certain amount of time, hence he chose LFC over AFC. Henderson is going to start every game. I would think that Can has been promised to get played in midfield as well. How are we going to fit all these midfielders in our team? I can only imagine that this will end in disputes.
last season we were missing a goalscorer, and it seems that we priortise a midfielder instead of a proven striker.

The worst thing that can happen now, is that Sterling doesn´t get sold this summer and he gets sold in january for £8m. I wouldn´t be surprised if that happened. If Sterling is sold this summer then the money should be invested in a goalscorer.

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12 Jun 2015 11:23:53
Kono would make more sense if someone where to go on loan as well. I could see markovic going on loan considering that's what we have done for the past 3 season (loan out the players we bought the previous summer) but I could also see ibe going to a PL side. If we keep lallana, markovic, coutinho and ibe then I would think that's our wide areas sorted, plus origi, Sturridge and ings can all play in those positions as well. So the use of the sterling money should definitely be on a top quality striker.

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12 Jun 2015 10:18:05
What do people think of Alex Song and his fit for our team? I know we were rumoured to be interested a couple of years back, and at the £5m that West Ham are rumoured to be bidding for him, he seems to be a steal!

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{Ed001's Note - awful player with an attitude who wants 100k a week for being extremely average.}

12 Jun 2015 11:34:41
So you're undecided about him then Ed001? ;-)

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{Ed001's Note - very much so.}

12 Jun 2015 10:03:09
Liverpool have completed the acquisition of Bolton's Adam Bogdan. But the questions I feel we all need answered are, Does he show great character? Is he a good lad? Can he be deployed at wing back?

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12 Jun 2015 11:20:05
Nah i think Bogdan will be our first choice striker next season with Milner providing cover for Migs in goal. Bogdan is a good kicker of the ball, so expect a lot of goals from him that end up in the top corner of the opposition's net. Brilliant signing by world class Brendan who will the take credit for turning Bogdan into the next Luis Suarez.

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12 Jun 2015 11:35:38
No,the questions I feel we need answered are.

Where does an itch go when you scratch it?

Why is the word "gullible" not in the dictionary?

How much deeper would the ocean be without sponges?

Why doesn't MacDonald's sell hotdogs?

If a doctor suddenly had a heart attack while doing surgery, would the other doctors work on the doctor or the patient?

What was Captain Hook's name before he got the hook?

Now I think you will agree, these need answering first.

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12 Jun 2015 12:02:08
Where does an itch go when you scratch it?
To a small town in East Sussex called E(i)tchingham


Why is the word "gullible" not in the dictionary?
It was removed by an act of parliament in the 1960s. If you look now in a dictionary, you will just see a *CENSORED* sticker.


How much deeper would the ocean be without sponges?
14.8 metres


Why doesn't MacDonald's sell hotdogs?
Because of its puritanical Christian roots. That's also why their sausages are 'patties' rather than provocative phallic shapes.


If a doctor suddenly had a heart attack while doing surgery, would the other doctors work on the doctor or the patient?
Most Dr's insurance policies cover off this point. If their health insurance is more extensive than the patient's, they get worked on first, otherwise vice versa.


What was Captain Hook's name before he got the hook?
Captain Hand

:)

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12 Jun 2015 12:10:23
When you scratch an itch many receptors in the skin are stimulated. This can cause inhibition of other nerve pathways in the central nervous system and block the sensation of the itch. Kind of like when you rub your elbow if you hurt it.
When The Dictionary was written by Dr Johnson, the word gullible didn't exist.
It wouldn't be deeper because the volume of the saturated sponge is the same as the dry sponge plus it's absorbable capacity of water.
Supply vs demand?
Depends on what stage the surgery was at. They would ensure the patient was safe then treat the heart attack. You have a bit of time with a heart attack, cardiac arrest would be a better question.
Robin Williams R.I.P.

Now. back to Bogdan.

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12 Jun 2015 09:59:02
Welcome to LFC Adam Bogdan. Obviously you are going to get some hate from some quarters for not being Gianluigi Buffon but I wish you well. Hopefully you can add some much needed competition for Simon.

I suppose that signals the end of any long term promotion for Danny Ward. If only we had a loan system that was any good we might find out how good the kid really was.

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12 Jun 2015 10:13:42
Personally I've no problem with mignolet being our number 1, he showed improvement last season.

My problem with bogdan is that we should have just used ward.

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12 Jun 2015 18:09:51
Getting a backup to replace a backup. Brilliant!

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12 Jun 2015 09:29:44
Hi Eds

Thanks for all the great work.

While its seems most likely that Sterling will leave this summer, where do u think he will end up considering Man Utd are interested.

If the club do sell to them, I would be gutted and would lose all faith in LFC.

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{Ed002's Note - I have explained where the interest is - Manchester City. Anything else is speculation. If you are fickle enough to give up on the club because of the sale to Manchester United it is really of no surprise - you are a Liverpool supporter.}

12 Jun 2015 09:48:52
Why does it matter who we sell him to. As long as its to the highest bidder and a deal can be agreed between them and Sterling, who cares if it United he goes to. He obviously wants out, why does it even matter where he goes?

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12 Jun 2015 10:17:11
Good response Ed02.
It's utterly ridiculous the number of LFC fans on here who "will lose all faith" at the drop of a hat. Some of them do it more than once (if that's possible).
Must be too much bromine in their tea or something.

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12 Jun 2015 10:34:15
I agree with brisbane sell him to highest bidder then move on and good luck to him hope his career works out well

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12 Jun 2015 11:49:20
To be fair ed02, I'm sure Chelsea fans have the same type of people supporting their club too ;)

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12 Jun 2015 08:55:28
this £25 million bid for sterling might finally see the back of him, first bid so they will probably come back in now or it will start others bidding.
Wether he's a good player or not the way all this has been handled by every one involved needs to stop, get rid get some money one, we have a ready made replacement in Ibe, I posted quite a while ago he was going to be a better player than sterling given game time. The lad is going to be amazing. Put what's left of sterling a transfer after fees and QPR's cut towards a week in week out striker we can rely on.
We need a player to do what Suarez did on the pitch and lift every one else's game, play players in their positions and we can achieve top 4 with a few quality additions. We have a good squad of players just missing a quality striker and strong leader.
Oh yeah a quality manager as well but for now we will have to see if Rodgers can learn from his mistakes for once

Lifelongred

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12 Jun 2015 11:15:01
What has Sterling done for you to "Lose all faith in the club"??. For me he is a decent player with potential but has not set the world alight or achieved anything. His ego has taken over which is worrying at such a young age and has clearly been reflected in his performances last season. He speaks about winning trophies but didn't seem interested in the semi final against Villa. I'd rather he moves on and we use the money wisely for players who will give their all for the Red shirt.

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12 Jun 2015 00:45:53
Respected ED'02,

Now i'm posting after a long time and read all the post by you and ED'01.I have some questions which i'm hoping you could answer sir.

1) I have read what you and ED'01 have said that the nothing is sure with regards to Rodgers position as manager next season for us,but the general consensus is that he will stay for now.

Can you please once and for all end the question regarding his position as manager for us next season?



Awaiting your response.

Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - (1) For now Rodgers stays in place. (2) Done to death.}

12 Jun 2015 10:04:26
For now poor results stay in place.

Liverpool are done.

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12 Jun 2015 10:19:31
Surely no-one can end question 2 once and for all.
There are too many unpredictable possibilities to do that.
Ed002 would have to be clairvoyant.

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12 Jun 2015 07:59:59
Not posted for ages but an avid daily reader. Great time of year for all the speculation, hopes and wishes - esp for us in this v important window. Strikers clearly a key area and just noticed that M Utd might have signed Firmino for a reported £13m which if you look at his goal scoring record is an absolute steal, at both club and country (Brazil starter!!). He is also flexible enough to play up front or at an attacking type mid.

Would be nice to consider and if the price is true (I know don't talk about cash) then it appears great value relative to other options out there.

Shame if true.

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12 Jun 2015 09:24:02
Can't believe if true why we didn't move in? Looks like we need a striker, bidding on Kovacic an attacking midfielder. Firmino covers both. Also another Brazil player to keep Pip happy, especially if Lucas gets moved on by Todgers.

Unless Firmino expressed his distaste at LFC and confirmed never! looks like an epic fail. again.

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12 Jun 2015 10:25:57
In all prospects Firmino of hoffenheim will be a chelsea player by the start of next season.

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12 Jun 2015 11:48:46
Just think Firmino ticks many of the boxes we are looking for and would fit into our current style very well - especially for the quoted (rumour I know) price - seems a no brainer to at least enquire, esp with Phil being an international team mate.

We'll just go and squander a bloody fortune on another fantasy buy as opposed to buying the right players for the team.

I also agree with everyone's comments about over loading with midfielders of the same style when if Lucas does go (real shame) we really need a strong physical (how many games have we been bullied and weak) DM.

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12 Jun 2015 02:28:35
Hey Eds n Reds. Just interested to know a bit about how the transfer market works. Is there some sort of data base where clubs put players up for sale and other clubs can look at players available. ? Or is it more along the lines of clubs just make inquiries about players they might be interested in and then go from there. ? Hope all is well

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{Ed001's Note - there is a list players are put on that are up for sale. The PFA used to maintain that in England, along with the list of players out of contract, if I remember correctly. It is not often the big clubs buy from that, it is more normal they will make enquiries about players of interest.}

12 Jun 2015 07:23:57
Then I was wondering how clubs approach each other? I would guess that man city didn't email Liverpool with an offer? Will they arrange a meeting about the player and sit down? It seems like a lot of hassle for Liverpool to then offer Barcelona 7 million for Pedro like they seem to be doing

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{Ed001's Note - it really depends. It is a business, how do businesses deal with other businesses? There you have your answer. There is no 'they do this every time', it really depends on who is dealing with who, so it could very easily have been an email or a phone call.}

12 Jun 2015 07:23:57
Then I was wondering how clubs approach each other? I would guess that man city didn't email Liverpool with an offer? Will they arrange a meeting about the player and sit down? It seems like a lot of hassle for Liverpool to then offer Barcelona 7 million for Pedro like they seem to be doing

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{Ed002's Note - In the first instance in this case an offer would have been made by phone, fax or email.

However, clubs will typically informally ask an agent (a) if the player is going to be available, and (b) would the player consider a move to the club. There may be some broad discussion on the sort of deal that would be offered. If the answer is yes, it is then necessary for the club to approach the player's club to ask if they would be willing to sell and if they would grant permission to speak to a player's agent and possibly even the player about actually making a move. This will typically involve either broadly (through an offer) or actually agreeing a fee and responsibility for any significant costs (agents fees etc.). Once this has happened the club will be able to speak to the player's agent and perhaps the player himself to look at the package that will be involved. Many players are looked at and discussed at a high-level with agents and clubs; a subset of those have an offer placed; a subset of those involve discussions with the player's club; a subset of those involve discussions over terms, and; a subset of those go ahead.}

12 Jun 2015 00:47:57
Eds marc Bartra has said his release clause has dropped to £9m due too lack of games. Surely he's worth a look if skrtel,coates,ilori are going.

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{Ed001's Note - do we need him? Why not play Lloyd Jones as the back up?}

12 Jun 2015 09:11:25
Oh great! Another young and inexperienced squad player who happens to be a CB? Just what the club needs to win the premier league and conquer Europe.

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12 Jun 2015 00:44:43
25-30m for raheem from city needs to be accepted now. Laughable for us to wait for more. As ed2 pointed out he needs togo and could even leave in jan for as little as 8m. Get the money and get him out. Give inter 18m for kovacic and use the rest towards clyne.

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12 Jun 2015 02:10:10
Agree, though not re Clyne, Kovacic I think would be excellent. Yes, I know we have others in that position, but I think he would be a decent step up.

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12 Jun 2015 03:58:43
what club would accept the first offer they receive for a player?

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12 Jun 2015 04:49:06
He needs to go and we should use the funds to get a top striker to provide goals at the top end. Kovacic is a luxury we can't afford and is defo not a step up on Can, IMO.

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12 Jun 2015 05:05:05
Haha lots of disagrees. With city having issues with ffp i doubt theyd offer more.

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12 Jun 2015 05:10:12
Why sell on the opening bid?
I know we regularly get rinsed in the transfer market but surely we are not that stupid?
Double it and we're talking.

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12 Jun 2015 07:16:17
Whatever, the agent is unfortunately quids in.
If Liverpool hold out for more money, his cut will be all the larger.
Can't win on that score.
Money for old rope.

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12 Jun 2015 08:57:10
Redohio, Can and Kovacic are very different players. We don't really know how Can will go in midfield as he has barely had a look in. Is he defensively minded like Lucas? He's not the most mobile, so he would need to be an excellent reader of the game. Kovacic also has improvements to make intelligence wise, but he is very mobile, has a killer pass and lovely touch and also beats players for fun at times, or so it appears.

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12 Jun 2015 09:12:16
Guys, I know we suck when it comes to buying players, but in terms of sales we do pretty well.
We got pretty much top dollar for Alonso,Mascherano,Torres and Suarez, which are probably the 4 best players we've had that we didn't want to move on,
We made roughly £80-£90 million profit on these lads,
In terms of getting the best deal for Raheem,I'm confident the club will do well,
Spending the money however is a different matter,

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12 Jun 2015 09:13:34
I hope the club hold out for at least 35 million GBP. Better to wait for offers from other clubs rather than let him go on the cheap. The media has built him up as the next Superman and LFC should take full advantage of the situation than let another party dictate terms.

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12 Jun 2015 09:22:25
He will go of that i am sure.

But i think the opening offer is far too low.

A compromise some where in the £40 mill area will be reached.

I can see Rafa coming in with a bid for him and Wenger too.

May just push the price up.

Whatever i don't see it being settled until towards the back end of the transfer window.

vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.

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12 Jun 2015 10:34:49
We're terrible at selling players, not sure how you could see it otherwise. Since 2010, we've sold a handful of players for more than we paid- Torres, Suarez, N'Gog, and Shelvey are the only ones that come to mind. Mascherano we sold for something like £2M less than we paid for him.

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12 Jun 2015 11:00:53
But how many of those players did we want to keep?
Shelvey? No, Ngog? No,
We wanted them gone and off the wage bill so we let them go cheap,
Not sure how you can use that as an argument RDL,

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{Ed001's Note - actually we did want Shelvey to stay, but he asked for the deal to go through.}

12 Jun 2015 11:36:35
My bad Ed, I thought I remembered Rodgers saying he pushed Shelvey to go for the sake of his career,

I do still maintain that when selling a player the club wants to keep, we do well. The difference is, most plsyers the club are happy to move on, hence no reason for the hardball,

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{Ed001's Note - Rodgers might well have said that, but that is just another case of him talking crap.}

12 Jun 2015 23:08:01
Burley, I take your point but don't you think the fact that Can has barely played there doesn't mean he can't be effective there neither does it mean Kovacic is better than him.

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