Liverpool Banter Archive March 12 2016

12 Mar 2016 21:02:04
roberto firminoi thought he was one of the worst player we have bought, I hold my hands up and say I was wrong. first class if you compare him to Raheem Sterling good deal for the club for a change. Sterling best season 2013-2014 9 goals 5 Assists firmino 8 league goals 7 Assistsi I know sterling was 19 but he had suarez and sturridge for most of the season.

12 Mar 2016 22:01:43
I don't know how sterling will get a game next season tbh. I will be very surprised if he's still playing regularly.

13 Mar 2016 08:44:59
Fair play grino for holding your hands up, there are plenty who did the same to lucas. Henderson is the current player not good enough even though he's playing injured and has been one of most important players in the last 3 years. Markovic is next on the 'hit list' because he's not as good as messi was at 20.

13 Mar 2016 14:00:32
I didn't think he'd end up one of the worst purchases but I did think he'd turn out to be another lallana. Someone that really delivers one game and then goes missing for awhile, and in the beginning it really did seem that way. Probably until about December, I was still scratching my head at the £29m we paid for him and the £32.5m for benteke. But he is proving me wrong and is our best player atm so long may it continue.

12 Mar 2016 19:06:59
Lukaku top drawer.

12 Mar 2016 19:43:26
Unplayable on his day, has a lot of quiet games though.

12 Mar 2016 20:19:34
Playing really well for most of the season.

12 Mar 2016 21:50:14
I've got a fiver on him to break Vardy's record this season. He seems to do bugger all most games and then pops up with a goal!

13 Mar 2016 06:45:27
So st least 8 people have no idea.

{Ed001's Note - or perhaps they just disagree, and you are the one with no idea? His touch is still appalling and he still misses far more than he scores. To be top drawer, you need to score more than you miss, like Vardy has done this season, over an extended period of time. Oh and you can't just decide to turn up when you feel like it, which is Lukaku's other problem, you should perform 9 out of 10 times.}

13 Mar 2016 00:22:49
will everton be able to hang on to him ed025?

{Ed025's Note - i cant see it to be honest KK, his agent raiola wants him to move and the though of his cut is driving him on, the investment by farhad moshiri gives us a slight chance though so maybe all is not lost mate..

13 Mar 2016 14:08:05
I agree Chris, lukaku is still young and can iron out his flaws but he's easily evertons best player. We would definitely have him in our team over benteke that's for sure. His misses a lot but he also scores a lot. He's a lot more mobile than benteke is and can dribble past players a lot better than him too, I wouldn't put it past him being our top striker if he was here purely based on Sturridge and his injuries of course but he'd do the job. Before we went for benteke and before Everton purchased him I wanted us to go for him if we where going for that type of striker.

13 Mar 2016 16:27:40
he is very important to everton, and with every goal he scores his agent's hand gets strengthed, I will be amazed if he is still at everton next season.

13 Mar 2016 19:33:31
And maybe the 8 are wrong and so are you Ed?

{Ed001's Note - but that doesn't mean they have no idea like you said. I have seen enough of your posts over the years to know that you are in no position to suggest that of others..... :-P

13 Mar 2016 19:54:12
Feel free to point out any posts of mine about players that have been off the mark.
I've been pretty good in my assessment of players over the years.

{Ed001's Note - if you say so Chris, waste of time trying to have a laugh with you, you are far too up your own arse to notice when anyone is joking. I have absolutely no idea how good or bad your assessment is, nor do I care, to be perfectly honest.}

13 Mar 2016 20:59:05
My comment wasn't meant to be serious, in fact I was waiting for you to tell me how wrong I've been about Lucas fairly recently but thanks for the slagging off again.

12 Mar 2016 17:57:57
Hi eds, when are we likely to find out if Fellani will be banned for the next leg? Also, If he is banned are we able to appeal?

12 Mar 2016 19:57:09
I prefer he plays cost when he does, Utd are playing with one man short as he offers absolutely NOTHING to the team.

12 Mar 2016 19:43:12
I hope in the next leg, someone (maybe Lucas? ) wastes a challenge and absolutely demolishes Fellaini in an early hard challenge.

Rock his big wig early, and he won't be romping around like he does. Instead, he'll be always hearing footsteps.

He is a dirty SOB, should have had about three red cards issued in the second half. Needs a message sent.

13 Mar 2016 00:07:12
Lucas is out for a while. Plus I'd rather Fellaini didn't play myself. We are weak from set pieces, and he can punish that.

12 Mar 2016 12:39:43
Hi ed 2 I've just seen a few posts down the page and if you've boycotted this site already I wouldn't blame you.

Sadly there are a certain people who will always view an opposing opinion as something hostile. They are incapable of considering the merits of both sides of an argument. This minority is noisy and unpleasant but they are a minority.

For many of us the information you provide is a key reason we come to this site. We trust you far more than the established media and I for one hang on every word you post.

I'm hugely disappointed that the the actions of a few morons may drive you away. I just want to reassure you that the majority hugely appreciate it and we would be far worse off if you didn't come on this page.

{Ed002's Note - Thank ypu for the kind words. We will see jhopow it goes buyt it may be best if I were to leave any transfer information regarding Liverpool until after the Summer window ends in September.}

12 Mar 2016 17:21:27
I concur; you are way too important to this site Ed002.

12 Mar 2016 17:21:27
I concur; you are way too important to this site Ed002.

{Ed002's Note - It is sadly not as simple as that. I give my time to share information and some of the rat-shit Liverpool fans have such pitiful lives that will never go anywhere so they spend their btime trolling web sites like this.}

12 Mar 2016 18:01:10
Eds 002 don't let the few moronic and insecure laptop gangsters detract you. So many people around the globe rely on you and Eds 001 for informed and correct information on all things Liverpool. It would be a shame to lose you mate.

{Ed002's Note - We try not to.}

12 Mar 2016 18:12:35
Agreed. By far the most credible information available for us fans. It's the only site I use and in my opinion would be a crying shame if you were to stop sharing your knowledge with us.

12 Mar 2016 21:05:33
I echo this.

I would literally lose part of my life if this site changed.

12 Mar 2016 21:48:33
Agree. Up the Eds!

12 Mar 2016 18:25:23
We all love you Ed002.

12 Mar 2016 19:08:24
Ed002
Know that you are loved.

12 Mar 2016 19:12:14
For me it's not just the transfer news which, unlike most transfer speculation, comes from someone who is genuinely informed and is not just best guess.
But I also appreciate Ed002's humour, which like all good humour can be provocative 😄 and the fact that he really does move in the sort of circles that most of us would never be exposed to is fascinating. I know precious little about football administration at any level but what I do know comes from the insight of Ed002.

Stick with us Ed002, there is always a ungrateful minority, but I find your comments fascinating, funny and provocative and really do appreciate your time.

12 Mar 2016 19:48:52
Ed, you can imagine exactly what types of people these morons are. Like you said, leave them to their sad go-nowhere lives.

It's hard to think this wave of abuse all came about because you were asked to give your opinion on the new stand. Pathetic.

{Ed002's Note - They are simple shaven-headed, lager-swilling, pot-bellied, tattooed, knuckledragging monogroats that drag their humongous asses to the the training ground each day and keep their hands in their pockets as players drive in and out. There is little need to explain that aspect of their daily routine. But that is what we are, in general, stuck with here.}

12 Mar 2016 19:55:16
Ed02 I'm sure your old enough and wise enough to ignore the small amount off pricks who come on here to abuse yourself and others.

The genuine fans interested in hearing what you have to say are grateful of your inside knowledge.

Keep up the good work its much appreciated.

{Ed002's Note - I appreciate that Lavers but sometimes the abuse is pretty bad and often the vegetables escape and it increases.}

12 Mar 2016 20:04:55
Ed002

I enjoy the banter you have with the fns and your responses are incisive and witty.
There is no malice in your work on this site (which isn't always the case for others) and if you were to jack it in - it would be our loss.

What I would say is don't take it personally, pretty obvious that some posters can't structure a decent post or respond in an appropriate manner - shows their level of communication is lacking - not yours.

{Ed002's Note - I don't want tp make it difficult but there are those intent on spoiling it for everyone.}

12 Mar 2016 21:40:44
Head up Ed. Away from the nonsense of the stupid. Your views are very welcome and certainly by most read with gratitude
Many thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Thanls G.}

12 Mar 2016 23:23:48
Lots of people, me included, come to this site primarily or partly because of the great insight that you so kindly share Ed002. It would be understandable but a huge loss if some selfish nobodies managed to drive you away. - And a great advantage if it was somehow possible to drive away those pathetic internet trolls offering nothing but a bad taste in the mouth and a ruined opportunity to debate, have fun and actually learn something.

I very much appreciate that you are around ed002 and i will enjoy it for as long as possible. Thanks!

{Ed002's Note - I do appreciate the words.}

12 Mar 2016 23:26:50
To both Eds 001 and Ed 002, I've been with this site since its inception. Please don't go.

{Ed002's Note - We will have another cleanse.}

13 Mar 2016 00:18:37
The thousands of fans who rely on this as their only source of genuine transfer information will be gutted if we lose such a vital contributor as Ed002, even if only till after the summer.

It is a sad sign of the times that anyone with something worth saying on the internet is immediately attacked by these pathetic poisonous toads- who face to face would never dare to say the things they write from the safety of their mother's bedrooms.

When these tagic, toxic excuses for human beings have ruined this site they will take their poison and bile elsewhere, safe from behind their keyboards.

Don't let these scum get their way- ban them permanently and never show us a word they say. Publicity is what they feed on. Left unlistened to and unheeded by anyone in their sad solitary Basements and bedrooms, they can hurt no-one.

13 Mar 2016 06:40:00
Ed002 i don't always agree with you but i have imense respect for you, not for your transfer insight but for your forthright no nosense opinions. I will totally understand if you decide to dial it down on here but just so you know the vast majority love you and the visigroats will have won if your insights are taken away from the site. Just so ed001 doesn't feel left out we love you to trissy.

13 Mar 2016 11:29:48
Eds 2 is by far the best and most informative on this site. obviously the others are great too but really appreciate your contributions.

13 Mar 2016 12:22:35
Ed02 most of us on this site appreciate your feedback and information especially regarding potential transfers or at least very strong rumours. So for the sake of those who value all you do please carry on. Cheers.

13 Mar 2016 18:34:05
Whether I agree or disagree with your opinion ed I always respect them - I also admit that your knowledge of the inner workings of the game smoke mine (and pretty much everyone else's on here) . There are ducks everywhere, I hope they don't turn you away here though, the website wouldn't be the same without your contributions.

12 Mar 2016 14:56:51
Good day Eds 001 and 002. Can one of you please shed light on how close we came to signing Marcus Depay or was it all just pie in the sky? Rumours suggest he chose United over us. To be honest I didn't pay to much to the situation at the time because I'd just had knee surgery and had other things on my mind. Also if we had signed Depay would we have still Signed Firminho? Thanks in advance and enjoy your weekend Eds and fellow Reds.

{Ed001's Note - he did choose United over us, we were very much trying to sign him, then United stepped in and we lost out. Well, maybe missed out is not the right phrase!

It is very unlikely we would have moved for Firmino if we have got him. Firmino's move came about because we missed out on Depay.

How close is difficult to quantify, he was not keen on joining us and was holding out to see who else came in.}

12 Mar 2016 15:02:23
Definitely dodged one there 😄.

12 Mar 2016 15:31:00
I saw him for PSV, he's clearly a talent. I'm sure Kloppo would be getting more from him than Beavis is.

{Ed001's Note - the problem is his attitude, not his talent, that is for sure.}

12 Mar 2016 16:01:55
So basically what your saying is we were about to **** up as per usual and united saved us, nothing to do with scouting a good player. Haha.

12 Mar 2016 16:24:40
Thanks for the feedback Buttercup 001. I'm glad we got firminho not only because of his supreme footballing qualities but it must raise our profile when we go to sign other South Americans. To have three magnificent Brazilian soccer players at the club must be an attractive allure for prospective Samba signings? Oh and not at all bothered about losing out on Depay. For the money United paid for him we could get a winger just as good if not better (Ojo anyone? ) . Granted we paid twice as much for Bobby as United spent on Depay but we are beginning to get our money's worth as he's on fire at the moment. I have to admit that I was worried about us having signed a dud earlier on in the season when Bobby was sauntering through games and just trying to be flash. Now he's added graft to the panache and it's really paying off. He's defending from the front like Suarez, Rush and his game intelligence is unique. The way he makes space, the runs, the ice cool tempremant, the goals and the work rate is a joy to behold. I love the way he bemuses opposition players i. e megging Rojo and making him look like a drunk. We really have a player on our hands and he just has to do it consistently like Luis and we have our next Kop Superstar!

12 Mar 2016 19:59:47
I was thrilled the day we signed him, and I am still thrilled, the best is still to come, excellent summary BD.

12 Mar 2016 18:16:45
Depay is a fantastic talent. I fully expect the lad to make an impact from next season.

12 Mar 2016 20:04:30
There's an article in the Echo that explains the background story behind why Depay didn't come to us. It goes a bit along the lines of what Ed has said. Depay seems to have a poor attitude and that will get him nowhere regardless of his immense talent. Thank God we got in Firmino as he is a much better all round player who will only get better. Depay? Only time will tell.

12 Mar 2016 21:06:25
The problem with Depay is that he thinks he is the next Ronaldo. Which he clearly isn't. Glad we didn't get him.

12 Mar 2016 21:57:35
it does not matter how talented you are if your attitude stinks, depay needs to rethink his mentality otherwise his career will go to waste, he has been awful so far, glad its not our problem to be honest.

13 Mar 2016 18:40:53
I can see him doing well in future to be honest, he has bags of talent and if United get the right sort of manager in he could thrive. He's been poor this season but I wouldn't write his career off just yet.

13 Mar 2016 20:25:22
should he not be ripping it up already in a poor man utd side, talent will only get you so far, if your attitude is not right you will never fufill that promise. A new manager might decide he is not worth bothering with.

12 Mar 2016 13:14:07
Hey eds01, if u r free
Who do u think is the best English keeper currently?
Also who is the best keeping prospect/ keeper in the lower leagues?
And would u want to see any of them at Liverpool?
Thanks.

{Ed001's Note - best English is difficult, there are no top class English keepers, certainly none I would take at Liverpool. It is between Butland and Hart, though Butland has far more potential, right now, like Hart, he is prone to errors. Unlike Hart he is young enough to iron them from his game easily, so I would just about pick him.

Daniel Bentley is the keeper prospect that is attracting interest from the Prem, so it would suggest him, but I have not seen him play enough to know if I would want him.}

12 Mar 2016 13:26:55
Thanks for the quick reply. I have also seen Bentley and he is quite good.

12 Mar 2016 13:33:37
For me the best prospect in the lower league is Garratt - playing in a poor team - think the stats say he has made the most saves across all leagues - as I said the team is poor defensively (Crewe)

{Ed001's Note - he is excellent, I actually forgot about him. I have been talking about him since he was in their U18s as well. He would defo be up there. Him I would consider for us, if Ward and the other youngsters are not considered good enough.}

12 Mar 2016 15:08:20
What about George Long of Sheff United Ed? he seems good too.

{Ed001's Note - only seen him play once, so I couldn't include him.}

13 Mar 2016 02:31:52
I'm personally a big fan of Matt Ingram. Recently signed for QPR from Wycombe. Know a lot of people who think he's going to have a good career.

12 Mar 2016 09:19:51
Ed001, wanted to pick your brains about Modric. Absolutely love him myself. How do you rate him?

{Ed001's Note - excellent player, fantastic touch and passing range, but coming into the twilight of his career now. One of the best in the world in his position still though.}

12 Mar 2016 14:08:39
Modric was promised a very bright future since he came thru the Dynamo Zagreb academy. Saw him play as a 20 yr old at the WC in Germany along with Kranjcer and was promising. He was very good at Spurs but since his move to Real Madrid, he has grown to be a complete midfielder. As Ed said, one of the best in the world.

{Ed001's Note - I really enjoyed watching him as Spurs, he just needed more quality around him to benefit from his vision.}

12 Mar 2016 10:45:41
He is a passing machine. Guess who is his successor?
Kova_Kova_Kovacic

12 Mar 2016 20:12:14
Ed, playing alongside players like Ronaldo, Alonso, Ramos, Isco, Benz and Bale, while being coached by Mou, Carlo and Zidane would improve anyone including you and I, wouldn't you agree?

{Ed001's Note - very good point on the players, though I disagree on Zidane's coaching, as he has shown absolutely no aptitude for the role.}

12 Mar 2016 08:31:56
I wish we could sign Gotze, Lucas Moura, Xhaka, Hector, Ter Stegen next transfer window and a plenty young talents. Paredes and Zielinski are rising star in italy. Ousmane Dembele in France too. And also Gabigol Barbossa.

12 Mar 2016 09:17:35
While we are at it let's just get Messi and Ronaldo, in fact Suarez will come back, and we will get neuer as a back up to Stegen. Saw a YouTube video with a toddler doing kick ups, let's sign him up on a 20 year deal, he could be a star.

12 Mar 2016 09:20:08
And we could ask the FA if we could put two or even three teams into the Premier League.

12 Mar 2016 09:36:40
If we buy that lot, where will Caulker play?

12 Mar 2016 09:45:44
I think its hard to get sarsacum in txt, but. why do people bite all the time!?

12 Mar 2016 09:18:41
Be could if we could just do a swapsey with Barcelona.