Liverpool Banter Archive May 12 2014

12 May 2014 22:45:37
Well acording to the saints rumours pages, they fully expect Lallana to stay! Also Eds on there has suggested he will stay if there gaffa stays.

Until a bid is accepted he doesn't really have a decision to make, although I wouldn't have thought we would have bid for him if we weren't pretty confident on him agreeing personal terms once the bid was accepted.

For me it really comes down to how much do Soton want and are we willing to meet that or not.

Really not that fussed about this lad.
£20m seems bonkers to me.

Have they suddenly qualified for the CL? Paid off their transfer debts?

Spot on, Ken. Lallana is a very good player BUT I`m afraid because his English and going to the WC, the Saints will be wanting stupid money for him and that`s where my problem w/ this transfer lies. He is a 15 - 20m pound player and NOT a 25 - 30m kind of player. And remember, the Saints don`t need to sell and Lallana`s not really looking to move so if we want him, we would have to put up the ridiculous amt of cash needed and at that point, He ain`t worth it. We can get better value elsewhere (Kono?) instead of verpaying for English talent which got us nowhere the last time. Let`s not forget how we got here and start spending money we really DON`T have. Instead, let`s be shrewd and get the players who wanna come here and whose clubs are willing to sell.

13 May 2014 07:45:59
redohio

Lallana has publically admitted his desire to play in CL, which southampton won't be. The player wants a move and Liverpool are in the positin to sign him up.

With an English core hell slot straight in whereas kono might take a while to adapt, especially having a language barrier! Plus he's proven he can create and score goals and may well start for England at the World Cup?! Doesn't seem too bad for 20 million!

13 May 2014 08:37:18
We would still need a LW. Lallana plays in the middle, We have only wonger in our team and that's a Kid sterling, We need another one.

12 May 2014 22:18:13
Quick note to all the Ed's; Apologies and best wishes to you for what will undoubtedly be a period of ridiculous and repeated questions, claims of "inside knowledge", and general wild speculation and hysteria.

12 May 2014 22:11:15
Hi eds, do you think there is any possibility of future interest in aaron ramsey, and if so do you think he would consider a move? Also hearing Liverpool are considering matching uniteds bid for Shaw! Keep up the great work, thanks!

{Ed002's Note - No idea.}

Aaron Ramsey?

Behave yourself, lol.

Dags
September, arsenal fans wanted ramsay out.

I believe our physio is interested in him.

We have better players than Ramsey and he`s only had 5 good months out of the 6 years he`s been w/ the gunners so no thanks.

And as for Shaw, if he`s worth 30m then how much the Chavs and Mancs can have him. IMO, he`s not worth that kind of money and is noth that good a defender.

Big Al,
you are correct my friend but he has been arguably one of the most improved players of the season.

12 May 2014 22:09:34
Ed1 and all reds, quick five questions for you if you've got the time:
1. Do you see United's supposed £200m summer splurge ending up with a team like Spurs- lots of very good players but with no understanding between them- and why are United so confident this won't happen and they will challenge for the title again with a team of superstars?
2. Given we're guaranteed a big Anfield night from just the group stages which of Bayern, Real Madrid or Barca would you most want to face, be it for a romantic or tactical reason or otherwise?
3. On that subject, would you rather the club focused on the league where possible next season to maximise our chances of a 19th league title, or would you be willing to risk tiredness and the like for the sake of fulfilling our realistic potential in Europe?
4. As it seems Chelski are signing Costa, would you classify them as our 'team to beat' now, for us to win the league, or City?
5. Little more fantastical now but, if Stevie was to retire after the World Cup, who would you want to be the new captain of Liverpool F.C.?
Thanks in advance, YNWA

1. It will not be £200m net. They will only get the squad they want in 3-4 windows. They need a clear-out and like us in the past they have big earners who will not be hugely in demand from other big clubs. LVG will have them back in top 4 though.
2. Not worried about the draw. Let them worry about us.
3. Must focus on league as we must qualify for top 4 for a number of years to become stronger. Need a bigger squad to rotate midfield and attack for the Euro games.
4. Chelsea and Man City should be ahead of the rest.
5. Hendo

12 May 2014 21:34:56
Liverpool and Chelsea re trying to get the deals done before the world cup, While UTD and Spurs trying to get a manager over the line.
LVG seems have 1% focus on the World cup and 99% focus on UTD job.
Spurs OTH are in No mans Land.

12 May 2014 21:23:35
Hi Eds, first time poster. Do you see us looking at Benteke again? I know we had enquired a while back, and putting his injuries to one side what is the likelyhood? We need another striker for next season, he is physical and pacey and could be ideal, cheers.

{Ed002's Note - No.}

12 May 2014 21:07:32
Chelsea agree costa deal. we need to keep up and get our deals done earlier than the rest.

12 May 2014 21:22:27
We bid for a guy the day after the season ended and before the transfer window opened.

What more do you want?

Very annoying. Well, they've activated his buyout/getout/whatever clause, but if Atlético win the double, he may stay. Anyway, we need to concentrate on our transfers, not others'.

They accused LS of diving. wait until they see the antics of this geezer! But then as he's playing for chelsea I'm sure the southern press will twist it somehow!

Why? The season starts at the same time for all.

12 May 2014 20:37:49
eds tried to post this a few times now, players I think might be worth a look at
steven caulker
bolasie
jordan mutch
luke shaw
micah richards
jack rodwell
moussa sissoko
ryan bertrand
Dejan Lovren
Morgan Schneiderlin
most are british and still young.

12 May 2014 21:58:33
The only one we might sign is Caulker. Ed02 says we've enquired after Moreno though. We will only sign one CB.

Richards or caulker seemingy the only legitimate sugestions there.

Niether is better than those we have at the club. Not good enough.

12 May 2014 20:22:05
I suspect we have bid around 16-18m for Lallana but Southampton want between 22-25m. don't know if we will reach an agreement. We won't be held to randsom and rightly so.

Hmm, think you might be right, but a good World Cup and watch his price soar. Pay the extra £4 million now whilst that's all it has to be I say!

Typical fan. "Just pay the 4m" likeit`s your money. Liverpool`s losing money every year but "just pay the 4m". We will not pay over the odds for a player who has only had one good year. He ain`t worth 20 or 25m so if that`s what they want, they can do one.

12 May 2014 20:06:26
20 mill Lallana or 20 mill Alexis Sanchez?.
Arsenal are believed to be interested in Sanchez and would cost somewhere in 20 mill

Difference is lallana prob wants to join Liverpool and he's a top class player . Sanchez is also top notch, but the interest in him will be across europe . Juve are apparantly close to him I believe. Plus he must be on 100k a week . So 20 mill like for like is way off when u factor in signing on fees wages etc . Prob 160k a month difference in wage

Injury prone and untested in the BPL, remember Alberto Aquilani? I'd take Adam Lallana as a better option.

Sanchez is worth more than that and what about his wages? A five year contract would look mighty expensive.

Gotta say Sanchez for me if fees are the same.

12 May 2014 21:27:21
Arsenal have a wage structure in place and Ozil is the highest earner, less than 150k, No way they going to pay anything 160k to Sanchez.
Sanchez would defo interested in coming to a team who could give him First team option.
I have no problem in welcoming Lallana, As He is a very good player provided, We still need a LW.
If BR believes all our strike force would repeat the same next season, then that's stupid.

Wages will be a big factor as I am pretty sure Sanchez would be demanding something close to what Ozil is earning. Lallana would be something closer 60k or about 150% less than Sanchez. If you factor in how long these players will stay for, it will be a big big difference.

Also, we have to look at Sanchez who has struggled when moving leagues. Besides Sanchez will have a wider range of clubs to choose from. And, ofcourse, they play in different positions. If Suarez were to leave, maybe Sanchez would be an option.

12 May 2014 19:42:32
Eds it seem that its commen nowledge that our bid for Lallana will be rebuffed. I assume the club know this aswell. Why bother making a bid if we already know the out come. Seems a pointless waste of time playing games if the player is a genuine transfer target for us. Is it to unsettle the player and maybe force there hand at some point of negotiation, is there method to what seems apparent madness?

Is this a serious question?

Red Rum

Well yeah. Seems a pointless waste of time. It's hardley a haggle. If he is that much desired by other clubs aswell then why bid small. as soon as any other watching suites see we agree a fee then they guzump it. Pointless!

12 May 2014 19:39:44
Every single midfield player in the u21s is better than Delph

This was meant to respond to superb post.

12 May 2014 19:04:53
i maybe wrong but southampton value lallana at between 30 - 35 mill, and we alaways bid low with our 1st bid

For £30-35m Southampton can keep him.

£30-35m for Lallana and Clyne, and they can have Enrique too.

Red Rum

I`ll gladly pay to make sure he stays there at that price.

12 May 2014 18:51:02
Hey eds, was just wondering if you know anything about what the future holds for Ibe and Suso? Will they be given a chance next season?

{Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}

12 May 2014 17:47:49
Has anybody seen enough of Ilori this season to say if he will be good enough to play a part next season? Or maybe Even be first choice?

Mikey, I have seen quite a bit of Ilori, he is very quick, decent in possession, can hit an excellent long pass to his strikers, he played brilliantly against Messi recently in a complete shut-out .

As with the majority of young CB's, he is still raw when defending, in my view he certainly won't be first choice for us next season, I think he will have another six or twelve months on loan .

It would not surprise me at all if he became a vital player for us after that .

Thanks mate. Looks like a promising one for the near future.

Ritters

from the limited clips I've seen on Ilori, he likes to come forward and attack. adding that to what you said about his speed and passing do you think he can play in the RB role?

we obviously have a worry on the right side of our defence and I've always thought Ilori and Wisdom as our long term solutions. I see Wisdom as our CB with Sakho or Dagger. he's always solid and Young Lions captain and Derby fans rave about him. surely he has a strong future with us?

Cheers

12 May 2014 17:35:32
To Ed02. You said earlier that the figure you heard was different to the £20m being quoted for Lallana. Can you say what you heard and when will this be finalised?

Thanks in advance.

Ynwa

{Ed002's Note - I have no interest in discussing money.}

12 May 2014 17:09:22
This is my first post.regarding our defence do we have a defensive coach if not is this the problem or is it just down to players not performing as an organised unit

EVERED77 there is no defensive coach, why I do not know, perhaps any
of the EDD'S could elaborate.

Not sure on the coaching side of things. But our defence has a few problems.
No leader since carra left.
Nobody verbally organising the defence.
Injurys to sakho, agger, toure, Coates, Kelly, Johnson, flanno and Enrique to deal with.
New keeper, who seems to be lacking in confidence and understandably so.
Style of play puts a lot of strain on the defence to perform well and consistently so, nobody has been able to this season, due to fitness, form, lack of talent etc.
lots of individual errors.
Johnson is lazy.
Skrtles style of play doesn't suit us at all, he has defended poor most of the season.
No natural left back for most of the season.
I think I have covered most of it.
Looking at that list it's a wonder we "only" let in 50 goals to be honest.
Out with the old and in with new in the summer and drill defending into them.
Also the whole team needs to learn to hold onto leads. Even at 2 or 3 up any team in the league thinks they can get something out of the game. We need to learn when to shut up shop and close games out.

Pascoe and March are assistant manager and first team coach respectively, Achterberg is the goal keeper coach.

For me, I wouldn't mind perhaps taking a look at a new goal keeping coach as I've not been impressed with what Achterberg has done with either Reina or Mignolet.

MIKEY1985, I think you'll find RODGERS
doesn't do shutting up shop, he's an attack-minded coach if we go 3, 4, or 5 up he' ll want to get 6, 7 and 8 that's
the ride were on, there won't be any
shutting up shop with RODGERS ever,
enjoy the ride

Maybe he should wembley. The team need to learn how to hold onto a lead.

Agree MIKEY1985, the really top managers know how to close games down, but it is not in RODGERS psyche.

City play a similar game to us and demachalis apart, have a better defence even arguably better reserves than our first choices for each position. so whether attack minded or not, we can improve the quality at the back.
Whether it needs a defender barking orders like carra, or simply better quality all round is debatable, but for me its both

Rdl if I remember what ed001 put I think he'd agree with you about the gk coach. Needs removing asap

I don't think sitting back when you have a lead is a good mindset if I'm being honest. How many 1-0 leads did we squander in the Benitez era?
I'm not excusing conceding 50 goals, it is a horrible return but conceding a goal at 3-0 up or 4-1 up isn't a big deal. Going 1-0/2-0 up and conceding and your in a fight. I'm afraid if we sit back we will reduce our goal tally, and won't definitely improve our defensive record.

And will win less games by siiting back too deep and inviting pressure.

12 May 2014 16:36:43
Anyone know what pot we are in for the champions league draw?

{Ed002's Note - 3 or 4.}

12 May 2014 16:27:03
Well looks like Rodgers is true to his words, and sticking with his philosophy.

Liverpools end of season review:

John Henry, "Congratulations Brendan on a great season. Now, onto next season. What are we going to do about all of these goals we're conceding?"

Brendan Rodgers, "Don't worry John. Got it all figured out. Get me Adam Lallana. Next year we will put 5 and 6 past our opponents just to make sure that there's no way back!"

Got to say jokes aside I've loved our attacking play this season. Attractive football with good old English grit at its core.

Regardless of any of any mistakes that have been made this season the players have been immense and showed so much desire. They have been a credit to our great club and allowed us to dream again.

Thank you Liverpool FC. I believe. YNWA

12 May 2014 15:45:53
I think we started to look leggy from the Chelsea match onwards. Seemed like most of the team barring Allen (hasn't played most of the season) were running on empty for the last 3 games. Just goes to show how important a big squad is if you're going to be competing for top honours. We have a young first team and many of them will develop physically as well as become better footballers. I'm especially keen to see coutinho get stronger on the ball just as sterling has managed this season, and also sturridge who I feel needs to add just a little steel to his game. The scary thing is that because we have a young squad there is so much room for improvement. Don't need to break the bank, just make a few shrewd signings and move on the deadweights.

I agree, we definitely looked tired in the latter stages of the Palace game

More than a bigger squad, perhaps what we need is a stronger squad.

Agreed mate. I watched my recording of the Arsenal game last night (to cheer myself up) and difference in sharpness and energy levels with the Newcastle game yesterday afternoon was so apparent: Esp. Studge and the boy Sterling. Not surprising though really.

12 May 2014 15:15:06
is it just me? but I feel like Agger is our best defender and our win record when he plays is amazing

Agger is vice captain and offers some form of leadership at the back, which is probably why he and Skrtel have been our best partnership.

He does seem out of favour with Rodgers, but I feel if Agger had a better partner (someone like Lovren) and 2 decent fullbacks at the back then that is the way forward.

Would I sacrifice Skrtel, Johnson and Enrique in favour of 3 new defenders? Yes. Our defence is in major need of strengthening this summer.

Red Rum

Not sure about the stats, but in my eye he is defs or best Central Defender. Ball Player as well, just maybe to injury prone would be his only negative for me.

12 May 2014 16:01:10
Agger weakness is his pace. He is slow, But He is right up there in terms of Loyalty.

If Agger is slow, then what does that make Skrtel?

Agger has much better positioning and anticipation, which covers up for his lack of pace.

Agger has chronic knee problems

If Agger is slow, then what does that make Skrtel?

Agger has much better positioning and anticipation, which covers up for his lack of pace.

You say our win rate is better with him, but I think the games he has missed, and the ones sakho has played, are normally harder for sakho

12 May 2014 20:11:38
The Real AG

I have never said, Skertel is better than Dagger.

12 May 2014 14:40:31
I think England would play the Liverpool Way, Diamond formation, with Gerrard holding, lallana and Hendo either flank and Barkley / Wilshere at the tip and Rooney and Sturridge upfront.

I hope we play the Liverpool Way, not the Liverpool Woy.

Surely lallana would be too of the diamond, and Wilshere side? Plus no sterling?

It's like you never existed when Hodgson was in charge of LFC, Harry.

12 May 2014 14:36:26
Just seen the Mirror reporting that Karim Benzema could be used to sweeten the deal if Suarez were to head of to Real, any truth in this?

Although I doubt he would want to come to us Benzema is still a world class player and if the deal were to happen involving him I don't think the team would be too worse off, especially if we can invest the rest of the money wisely.

{Ed002's Note - They are happy to let KB move on.}

12 May 2014 14:41:37
benzema would socre tonz of tappings inside 6 yard box. Is that you want?, We have sturridge who could do more than that by miles.
What we need is Benzema + Sanchez kinda player.

I would happily bring in Benzema as an addition to the 2 strikers we have, but I wouldn't want Luis or Studge leaving the club.

Red Rum

I have watched Benzema Live many times and he looks much better in Highlight programes! He's lazy with poor ball control and link up play.
I would be horrified if we swapped Saurez plus Cash for him

I don't really rate benzema, I think he'd struggle in the prem

12 May 2014 14:19:47
Massive congrats to Jon Flanagan on making it into the provisional/stand-by England squad, well deserved after some really consistent performances shows how far he's come under BR. Congrats as well to Sterling, Gerrard, Johnson, Henderson and Sturridge but to be honest we all expected them to be in the squad anyway.

I'll second that. Well deserved.

Red Rum

Gabby agbonlahor actually played very well vs us at anfield

Well done Jon

12 May 2014 14:16:02
I'm not going to pre-empt BR or submit a long list of transfer-wishes. I don't know too much about foreign footie or who's available so I'll stick to what I do know.
Anyone who's ever read my posts over the last 3 years will know that I'm an advocate of "building from within".of giving youth a chance and giving local or British talent a decent crack of the whip.
I'm pragmatic enough to know that modern football is not as simple as that. and at this level, in 2014, you have to splash out on the likes of Toure, Luiz, Suarez, Silva, Hazard, Mata, Kompany, Aguero etc. if you want to succeed.
We have a GREAT (potentially) pool of players on which to build on and we have a bunch of saleable assets who could partly fund a squad capable of challenging on all fronts.
The owners will know by now that they HAVE to invest to succeed.
There's no disguising our shortcomings in defence and in a "playmaker" type.
I've always said that a top-class defensive midfielder is vital at this level. Lucas, Gerrard and Kolo Toure might fit the bill but I can't help thinking that a "specialist" would be worth his weight in gold!
Of the midfielders we do have, Henderson, Allen, Gerrard, Sterling, Suso, Texeira, Lucas, Coutinho, Alberto and Coady is a good place to start but we still need a "Graeme Souness".
Is Adam Lallana the answer?. I don't know.
There's no getting away from the Luis Suarez
question. will he still be here next year or will we be £70m "richer" but all the poorer for his loss?
Champions League football should persuade Luis to stay and I hope this is the case. I have been watching Liverpool since Kevin Keegan's debut and he's just about the most exciting player I've seen at Anfield. However, Luis Suarez's body-language suggests he's on the move. my guess is Real Madrid and I would not be suicidal if we can get £70m plus and a decent replacement.
The future of Liverpool Football Club is in Brendan Rodger's hands and I hope he realises that we aren't in the Europa League with Swansea. so don't sign the likes of Caulker and Williams!
Luis Suarez should be the benchmark. the standard by which Brendan and his scouts build a team.
For all his faults, Luis Suarez is brilliant because of his heart, passion, determination etc.
I would hate for us to fill slots with robots who look good on paper but don't have the heart.
Sell Suarez by all means but don't draft in players who couldn't cut it elsewhere. Tello, Richards etc.
Personally, I'd like to see Llori, Kelly, Wisdom, Agger, Sakho and a decent new signing fighting for CB positions with Coates and Skrtel saying goodbye.
By "decent" I mean a Sammi Hyppia or an Alan Hansen.
Sell Glen Johnson or Enrique and bring in a truly attacking Wing Back or two.
Borini, Assaidi and Aspas should be sold to release funds.
I hope Brendan and his team use the money well and I look forward to the 2014/15 season

Thank you, why on earth would we be interested in Richards, Caulker and Williams. Our CB´s are better than Caulker and Williams, and I barely know how good Richards is, since he is always injured.
I don´t understand why you say we shouldn´t draft in players who couldn´t cut it elsewhere? Let me remind you of Sturridge and Coutinho, both who have been vital this season. I think Borini will be contribute aswell, and from what I´ve heard he has been SFC best player this season. Keeping in mind that we´ll be in 4 competitions next season, I think Sturridge and Suarez won´t be able to play all those games, and these are the games where Borini will feature.

12 May 2014 13:45:28
Brendan and the lads have had a great season and as you all know it will be harder next season as teams will all strengthen but what if Liverpool were to come 4th or 5th next season and our new players failed to hit it off, eg-llana if he signs, would brendan be slagged and llana be dragged through the coals, would this season be forgotten, not all players can replicate their fine form every season eg benteke, I hope we can go from strength to strength every season but nothing is guaranteed, all we can do is get behind the team no matter what and not be like the arsenal fans who wanted there manager who had got champions league every season to go, just worries me that if we had a bad season or even a good season and don't quite make it that the calls for brendans head and players would be loud and we would be again in the wilderness for another five years :(

Glass half empty kind of guy then.

If BR keeps the same style of play (which he has said he would) then I don't see many wanting BR gone. Why do you post this kind of cr@p?

12 May 2014 13:02:55
Before the transfer train gets into full speed
I would just like to take a moment to thank Ed001 and Ed02 for all the hard work they put into this site and for dealing with our numerous transfer related questions, naivety, Chelsea and Mourinho obsession etc.
Hope you guys all the best for the summer

12 May 2014 12:58:01
Hey Ed02, What did you think of Aguero's elbow, if Ramires got 4 matches surely he should as well?

{Ed002's Note - I have not seen any of the football.}

12 May 2014 12:51:03
Apparently Brendan needs to offload players to make room for any acquisitions. His ruthlessness will be tested this summer, as far too many members of our squad are deemed to be not up to the job. Should valuations be met, it is quite probable that Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Enrique, Lucas, Borini, Assaidi, Aspas, Kelly, Alberto, Mignolet and possibly more will be offloaded. It is sad for Skrtel, as despite his obvious talents, his inability to remain composed in crucial games, his manhandling of opposition players at set-pieces and his loss of concentration and regular errors mean he is deemed a liability in a potential Championship winning side. However, it is thought that should his valuation not be met, that he will be relegated to the bench, and remain as a squad member for injury cover, rather than remaining the starter he has been all season.

I think Borini proved himself enough on loan to warrant a chance with us.

I think he will be ruthless.
There will be lots of great players who want to come to us now. If we can sell 9 average players to be able to afford three more great players then we should do it. Plus whatever extra money we get from the owners

Mignolet will surely not be offloaded think before you post

What a rubbish post.
Why would u want to offload Borini, Mignolet, Lucas or Kelly? They are all players who will be important in terms of depth to the squad and in case of Borini, he deserves another shot after his performances for Sunderland.
Skrtel, Johnson, Assaidi and Aspas however need to move on.

Agree with Buzzer.

If Mignolet thinks he will not playing for his LFC future, I think he is in for a surprise. Entirely likely a GK will be brought in, in my opinion.

BR has made it clear he is going be ruthless with that defence.

12 May 2014 12:40:59
Rumour has it that Lallana wants to come, but that Southampton are more inclined to maximise profit in a bidding war than to allow Lallana to move to LFC. This is seen to be an example of the problems we face, as the wealthiest clubs are willing to offer silly money in fees and wages that our commitment to responsible and sustainable spending do not allow us to compete with. So despite CL qualification, greedy grabbing agents will hamper our recruitment, and mean that the Billionaires can easily pick off any declared targets. A frustrating summer is on the cards.

12 May 2014 12:34:07
Hi Eds, I'm hearing rumours that we will put in a bid for Christian Tello this week. Any truth to this and are we still interested in him? Additionally, Diego Costa to Liverpool FC and not Chelsea because he prefers the way we play football! Any truth to this?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - I cannot comment on the timing of transfers.}

12 May 2014 12:07:22
Hi eds.whats the possibility of summers signings vertogen, m Richards, c tello, a laulau, mo diame, ynwa .

{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine.}

12 May 2014 11:51:07
Although it hurts to lose the title but still proud of the reds! Will come back stronger next season.

Time now to address the reasons of why our bid failed and obviously defense is the obvious place where we need to get stronger. Although additions will be needed to add quality depth in attack aswell.

I believe it going to be a tough decision but in my view skertl has to go. As much as I like him and want him at the club he has to go an is simply not good enough. Now is the time that we will get a good price for him too so I say we should sell him and bring him someone who has leadership qualities, does not get deep under pressure and isn't prone to errors every other match. i'm sure BR already has some targets linned up.

12 May 2014 11:46:45
"Hello everyone. First of all I wanted to thank all the fans for supporting me this year, especially the RED FANS. We did everything we could until the last game but the important thing this year was that Liverpool came back in the Champions League! Me and my family want to thank you for living unique moments this year. The work done by my teammates and the entire staff of Liverpool has been incredible and I hope everyone enjoyed this year. Thanks again. YNWA!!"
Source: Luis Suarez

"Big thanks for all the lfc fans for their support all season. Sorry we couldn't bring it home for you. Next season"
Source: Daniel Sturridge

They both have been brilliant this season.

12 May 2014 11:22:10
I an quite excited for borini to return now! 7 goals in the prem in 25 games doesn't sound great, but sunderland were terrible for 3/4 the season! He is passionate and composed, hope he gets a fair chance!

I think it sounds pretty good. He will be a very important member of the squad next year.

12 May 2014 11:16:00
BBC and other sources saing we bid for lallana! Happy days, hope we get hime :D

11 May 2014 11:29:18
Hi Ed2, I hope your parties went well. As next week will probably be the start of the silly season of transfer questions I just wanted to pose the question of Greg Dykes proposals across your desk again for your thoughts this week.

I don't claim to understand all of the facts and certainly wouldn't want lower league clubs to lose money but the B Team idea seems pretty sensible to me. I may be opening myself up for some criticism but it's all about opinions.

Also, if the proposal does goes ahead, do you foresee more 'gaming of the system' and wealthier clubs rushing to buy up all of the English talent creating even further divides between the clubs?

Just a little food for thought on a quiet Sunday morning :-) . but genuinely whenever you get a spare moment this week I'd really like to hear your thoughts and insights.

Many thanks as always

Bryan

{Ed002's Note - I think that they have failed to fully understand the ramifications Bryan. No doubt there would be an eventual benefit to the England team but there would be major issues to the conference sides and to the lower tier English sides as the 10 or so B sides take up promotion slots for years ahead. I like the standpoint of Accrington Stanley, to start a B side and apply for a premier league place for it. It is a dumb approach that would only lead to further bad feeling if implemented. At some point they are going to need to deal with the impact of a bunch of sides breaking away form the extant structure - that might work for B sides.}

12 May 2014 10:25:49
We've had a little glimpse of the future of next season in these past three games.
Oppo teams with a sole striker, and two rows of five and four defending very deep. Relying on the counter.

Does / should it affect our planned signings?

And how does Brendan go about countering this "Total Bussball"?

12 May 2014 10:35:18
Paience is the key here, let's not try too hard, Let them alos have some share of the ball and they eventually will come out from the pit. BR should have learned something from the Chelsea Game. Therz no shame in winning couple of matches with 1-0 scoreline.

Well I fthe bid for Adam Lallana is true then it looks like guile and craft.

{Ed002's Note - There has been a bid today.}

Look at city though! Played two teams that have done the same in west ham and villa and come away with two easy wins! They still play good football, and pile on the pressure by keeping the ball, creating space and utilising the flanks!

I think the difference is City have workhorses on the flanks and Kompany.

The key with City, and indeed with breaking down these sorts of defenses is speed in the middle third.

Getting the ball in behind the first bank of defenders to give the skillful/pacey attacking players the chance of running at the flat back 4/5.

This is where I think Liverpool have lacked the threat of someone like Lallana, someone who can collect the ball in his own half and make 20/30 yards opening up the middle of the park. Gerrard used to do this for fun, but he can't as much now, and having Sterling/Pip doing it means they aren't as dangersous in the final third.

Personally I think a midfield three of Hendo and Lallana either side of Gerrard looks as good as anything, and when you consider Lucas and Allen as back up, with youngsters of Suso, Alberto, Texeira, Rossiter and Chirivella (mate of mine from Valencia area says he's going to be amazing) then the future is certainly bright.

With Suarez, Sturridge, Sterling, Coutinho, Borini and A.Nother(would love Shaqiri myself but not probable) up front (with Ibe/Yesil/Wilson etc) I can't see many clubs with stronger squads than that.

If we can just sure up the defence a little then we could be in for another amazing season.

YNWA

The way to break down teams who park the bus is down to the fullbacks and wide players.

Look at city, with Zabaleta and Kolarov. The get in behind and fizz balls into the danger zone. More often than not they get goals. United have been doing it effectively for years. They get the ball wide to the wingers/fullbacks who stretch the opposition and create opportunities.

Red Rum

Silva and Nasri, definitely not "Work Horses".

12 May 2014 10:09:08
Hi Eds, hi one and all

Been following the site for a couple of years and love the banter. Great work. It's my first post. so be gentle.

I should have joined ages ago, but didn't want to change any of my "routine" this season in case it jinxed the season run-in but now it's over I wanted to contribute with a few random thoughts:

1. loved the thrill of being in the title hunt, and the enjoyment the boys have given has far outweighed the disappointment of not finishing top. They have been fantastic.

2. I believe that your finishing place in the table is down to EVERY single result/scoreline and is not determined by sound-bytes or incidents that can selectively be pulled out as reasons for not winning. There are many occasions where we have either thrown a couple of points away or been given an unexpected lifeline due to an opponent (or one of our guys) making a rash decision or chalenge. So it all goes into the melting pot and best not to dwell on any negative memories but work out how to try and avoid them in the future or indeed expolot them in the opposition :o)

3. The whole squad has contributed and I can't remember seeing a better team spirit in recent years. Great effort by Brendan, all the backroom staff and the players themselves

4. Can't wait for the CL next season. I do hope we manage a little bit of a blend of defensive solidity mixed with the fantastic attacking we have shown this year.

5. I prey and prey and prey again that we don't pick up any injuries while the boys are away on England duty. August can't come round quick enough - unless the desperation is delayed slightly by Gerrard lifting the World Cup!

YNWA

12 May 2014 09:58:22
Ed02. At the start of the season your prediction was lfc to fight for European places, 4 5 6. This isn't a gloat. I'd like an outside view from a non lfc, as too why we finished second. What were the reasons, br, Suarez form? Etc. But also, what were our downfalls to why we couldn't see it over the line.

{Ed002's Note - It has been a fantastic season for the club and the fans - Liverpool went on a run and won a whole bunch of games in a row. That was the reason for being so close in the end.}

Our away form for early/mid season wasn't great

12 May 2014 09:52:55
Morning eds from what i've read on here it looks like rojo is a serious target for lb as I've never seen him play I was just wondering how uz rate him and what his strengths and weaknesses are.

{Ed001's Note - sorry not seen him play yet.}

Thanks for the reply ed. Can any fellow posters help out on this?

12 May 2014 09:30:14
Very proud of the guys this morning.

We were only a linesman's incorrect flag at the Etihad away from the title.

(Sterling's disallowed goal in December, if you are wondering).

12 May 2014 09:20:30
Eds surely we are interested in Luke Shaw for £25million? Would sort our left back position out for 10-15 years and from what I've seen I could imagine him moving into a more attacking role over the years (like Bale has done) as he has all the skills to do that. Surely Rodgers would want him, would the owners back him though?

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has shown no interest in him.}

Why don't people just realize that 25 million for a left back is insane money even chelsea baulked at the price
There are better and cheaper players out there Rodriguez, Moreno etc
He os massively overrated (I may have exaggerated a bit but he is British thus overrated)
We just can't afford him
That kind of money should in an ideal world not be spent on a left back and if it is then only on an established world class left back not someone with maybe potential to be a world class player

12 May 2014 10:17:17
Dude. Shaw is certainly not overrated and price is set by Southampton, Not Shaw.
Second, We care the money we spend. SOme clubs dont, But that doesn't mean we are inferior to anyone. We have beaten the best and we will continue to do so, We have players at our disposal and we certainly not desperated to buy.
Take out yaya toure and Silva, City are left with 500 mill players who would loose more than 7 away games every seaosn.

Such a big fee for such a young defender.

12 May 2014 09:12:51
Ed001

Is Hendo going to the world cup?.

Surely he must be?.

It's more the case of will he start or not, he's s dead cert to go!

12 May 2014 08:16:43
Are we still interested in Diego Costa? I'm sure we were considering him last summer?

{Ed002's Note - Only when the runt was expected to leave.}

Whys he a runt?

{Ed002's Note - Who would that be?}

12 May 2014 10:01:08
DO Chelsea have any concerns about Costa's behavior Ed02? He has a short fuse and has done things which are Suarezque in the past.

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea has the expectation that their players will behave well - if not they will be sacked.}

Like they did with john terry all them times?

{Ed002's Note - There was one issue with John Terry that saw him come very close to being sacked.}

12 May 2014 12:57:23
Ed02, Brilliant reply.

12 May 2014 12:58:48
haha, love it Ed02

12 May 2014 08:01:53
Proud. That is all.

Me too, going to see them on wed in dublin, can't wait .

12 May 2014 07:50:36
Anyone with an update on Ilori's future. BR seemed very keen to have him signed up and he has had a very good season on loan but he never gets mentioned even with all the talk of us needing better defence

Thanks

Way too early.

11 May 2014 12:59:53
Ed002 it's time for me to say something.
You say LFC fans constantly give their players abuse & rogers says embarrassing things.

As your a Chelsea fan I can confidently say mourinho is the most embarrassing manager in the league by far the things he comes out with make people cringe and he really should keep his mouth shut more often.

And number two I know someone who is a West Ham United season ticket holder but sometimes goes to Stamford bridge with his cousin who is a Chelsea fan and he says the Chelsea fans are the worst he's ever seen for abusing & moaning at their own players!

I have been to anfield plenty & I've never heard LFC fans moan or abuse a player.

I appreciate there are some right persons on this page though

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea why you wish to further embarrass the Liverpool fans and try and make this about Chelsea.}

Not embarrassing Liverpool at all just stating the truth.

{Ed001's Note - you are embarrassing me and I am a Liverpool fan. Some times it is better to just keep your mouth shut and let people believe what they want.}

Regardless of what other teams or their manager are doing it is of no concern to us. The Ed's filter the posts on here so they can see that we have a number of fans that are blinkered whenever things don't go our way and type terrible things about Rodgers and our squad.

12 May 2014 10:01:24
I think the OP is asking you about how you feel about JM talking and talking Ed02.

{Ed002's Note - He distracts the press from going on about the players and manages expectations. He doesn't embarrass himself or the club like Brendo of course - except in the eyes of the Liverpool fans who seem do nothing but obsess about Chelsea.}

12 May 2014 08:33:53
Adam Llalana was subbed off ysterday at around the 75th minmark waving his hands to the crowd and seems certain to be off in the summer.
Welcome to Liverpool Lad, The Best club. Best Family and Best Stadium.

It was the last game of the season at home. Sturridge did the same.

12 May 2014 10:40:22
The Real AG

We have made a formal offer and the player has stated his desire to play in CL and competing the title, Along with Arsenal we are the best fit for him.
He would be a Liverpool player.

12 May 2014 07:20:31
Congrats to all the lads for their commitments and hardwork to make us runner-up in this league and thanks for all the fabulous wins with loads of emotions we have experienced throughout the year. I wish to thank all the fans for their comments on this site and we go again next year eagerly waiting for the mouth-watering matches in the EPL and . Champions League. Born a red, live a red, die a red YNWA.

12 May 2014 06:39:45
Eds when does the transfer window open?
Keep up the good work!

{Ed001's Note - July 1st is the official opening date of the window.}

12 May 2014 02:24:50
The following 6 players are the ones that have made the difference this season.

Luis Suarez - Most goals (31) and 2nd most assists in the league (12). 2nd only to our very own Steven Gerrard. What an effort from him this year. He really has shown his quality this season both in his performances and in his behaviour. He is in the prime of his career and will be vital for us next year. He gives absolutely everything and I hope we can keep hold of him this summer.

Daniel Sturridge - Excellent in his first full season for the club. 2nd highest scorer in the league with 21 goals and although Suarez will take most of the plaudits, Daniel has been top quality for us. How privileged are we to have two strikers with over 50 goals scored between them?

Raheem Sterling - 19 years old! How good can this young man become? For me, he has been one of the best wide players in the league, he has really stepped up his game and I wouldn't drop him for any other player in the world on current form. He will be vital for us next season and I am really excited to see him progress. 9 goals and 7 assists is a great return for him this season.

Philippe Coutinho - 21 years old! Our best attacking midfielders are 19 and 21 years old. You look at the league champions who have attacking midfielders like David Silva, Yaya Toure, Samir Nasri etc and it just puts into perspective the effort that our young lads have put in to keep the club neck and neck with the likes of City and Chelsea. 5 goals and 7 assists for Philippe this season. Great effort from him.

Steven Gerrard - What an effort from our captain this season. Most assists in the league with 13. His set pieces, his passing ability and his leadership have been second to none and for me, he gets better with age. He has adapted well to his role of controlling the game, and I am sure he will be pivotal in our challenge for success next season. Disappointed for him that he couldn't complete his trophy collection this year, but we will only get stronger as a team.

Jordan Henderson - It is easy to forget that he is only 23 years old. He doesn't get many goals and he isn't the most skilful of players but his work rate certainly hasn't gone unnoticed. He has been vital in his box to box role and has been one of our most consistent players over the course of the season. 4 goals and 7 assists is a very good return for him. He too will be crucial for us next season.

Special mentions to Jon Flanagan, and Joe Allen who have improved greatly over the course of the season. Skrtel has also worked very hard.

A pretty average season for the rest, but still congratulations to everyone involved at LFC for what has been a thoroughly enjoyable and memorable season.

Bring on next season.

Red Rum

Totally agree, some special talents we have in the team, youthful and hopefully will continue to improve in pre season!

Don't think Joe Allen has played enough to really show if he's improved, but agree with other mentions.

Completely agree. Those 6 players have been outstanding throughout the season.

12 May 2014 08:36:42
Aguero with a last min effort. h lols.

I agree with all the names mentioned but I will have a special mention to Mignolet who saved us in many games.

I don't think it is any coincidence that the suspension of Henderson coincided with a loss and a draw that cost us the title. He was magnificent for us this season.

11 May 2014 22:42:43
Message to suarezisagenius, I posted earlier quite a long post to answer your latest post but somehow it has not appeared, I am watching MOTD now and can't be bothered re-writing, the jist of it was, it's a game of opinions, we don't agree on this but we are both reds and want the best for LFC, cheers
YNWA

11 May 2014 22:30:03
I wondered what the 20 meant from the obno fans. Now I know what it meant - Liverpool 84 points, obno 64 points = 20! The Gerrard 0 was a mis-spelling. It should have been Gerrardo - a compliment likening him to a South American star. Let's also remember - it's not the beginning of the end, it's the end of the beginning! It's been a great season but don't forget, 1st = Champions' League, 2nd = Champions' League, 3rd = Champions League. We are also told to be afraid that we will end of in a 'Pot of Death". I don't think that are many teams who will be pleased to be in the same pot as Liverpool.

12 May 2014 08:57:58
We ll be in Pot 3 and that's exactly we need CL nights. I want us to perform against Juve and Dortumand, rather than easing past ukranian and turkish teams.
We ll have to be consisntent top 4 team for atleast 3-4 seasons.

That particular pilot has got some dosh at the expense of mancs.

12 May 2014 01:28:45
As a long time lurker for this site and this being my first post I want to say a massive thanks to the eds for their input over these past months, congratulations to all my fellow reds on an amazing season where we have achieved way and beyond all expectations, long may it continue! YNWA

{Ed007's Note - Welcometo to the Love Shack, Danny.}

11 May 2014 23:58:29
Hey eds and reds,
Just wanted to say what a great season and we were so unfortunate not to finish top. But having said that at least it was to man city and not a team we hate like man u or chelsea. A quick question. would you guys take shaw and lallana for 50m. I personally would as I think shaw would be amazing value for money because I see him being a top player for 10+ years. As for lallana I feel he has been excellent and would add something different to our attacking play.

No. Shaw is massively overrated in my opinion and not worth at this point in his career near what Soton want for him. Last rumour I saw had him at £27M which is just crazy.

Alba was £12M a few years back, Rodriguez was £7M, Azpilicueta was £7M, Sandro was £8M, Nagatomo was £4M, Enrique was £7M, Criscito was £13M, etc, etc. If Shaw does end up going for £27M+ I think that will make him the most expensive LB in football history? . Alba was £12M a few years back, Rodriguez was £7M, Azpilicueta was £7M, Sandro was £8M, Nagatomo was £4M, Enrique was £7M, Criscito was £13M, etc, etc. If Shaw does end up going for £27M+ I think that will make him the most expensive LB in football history?

For me, for £27M at LB you'd better be world class now, not perhaps maybe potentially world class in several years.

I think if we could get brad smith's confidence as close to arrogance as possible he could be our answer to luke shaw.

I couldn't afford either so no

I would doubt we would have £50 million to spend without sales, so I rather not blow it all on a very expensive, but a very good, LB.

12 May 2014 09:00:03
RDL.

Sorry, But Shaw is not overrated and the price quoted is beyond his control. The Lad is quality, the best LB in EPL.

He is overrated, which is why Manchester United are bidding £27 million for him. Fairly easy to understand that Harry, but you may need to read it twice or thrice.

I;ve no idea about exchange rates, but Coentrao went for 30 million euros to real. It'll be close. I don't think he's overrated at all. I think he's overpriced which is completely different.

11 May 2014 23:57:43
What does anyone think about a bid for dwight gayle

He's got something about him this kid

I actually quite like the kid for some reason, but personally I'd rather just give Borini a chance and he's already on our wage bill.

Not for me. Borini is ready for us now.

11 May 2014 22:38:08
Not LFC related
Ashley Cole has retired from international football.

RH told him he is not in the England squad so he thought hmm left me save face and retire.