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12 Oct 2015 22:17:32
Given our FFP issues; the volume of players on our books/on loan; the expected types of formations and the expectancy the JK will look to promote from within the youth ranks; who do the Eds think will be surplus under the new management?
{Ed002's Note - I have no idea right now.}
12 Oct 2015 18:22:24
Ed2, may I trouble you for your thoughts on the whole UEFA and FIFA debacle. I didn't know where else to post this so hope you don't mind it being here.
Do you think it's realistic to think that wholesale changes can be made to clean things up? It seems to get worse every day and, with so many nationalities seeming to be added to the 'under investigation' group almost daily, it's hard to see how anyone can really clean up and start anew for the good of the game.
Thanks,
Bryan
{Ed002's Note - Just to be clear Bryan, you really need to completely separate thoughts about UEFA from thoughts about FIFA.
Dealing first with the UEFA situation, there were (historic) issues that came to light about 18 months ago regarding Platini and it is just one of those issues that is coming to the fore at the moment and dragging Blatter along with it. It is to do with the late invoicing of some SFr2M for work undertaken beginning in 2002 - but not invoiced until 2011. Aside from the lack of an adequate paper trail there is some aspect of Swiss law that says invoices for work carried out more than 5 years before should not be paid - and it is this the Swiss have pulled them over, regardless of the monies having been repaid. The US DoJ is somewhat surprised over the Swiss actions and have yet to convince themselves that this is necessary illegal rather than just misguided - and the Swiss authorities playing on the nuances of Swiss law, the lack of a paper trail and some hideously weird excuse from Platini make them think that this might not even be charge worthy. There is then some additional fluff which has not yet been publicized fully that could take it one of three ways for Platini - charge him separately, drop all charges, or ask Platini to switch to being a witness for part of any other relevant case - cutting him a deal we call it. As for Angel Maria Villar-Llon, he will be offered as a sacrifice regardless. In terms of the UEFA staff, 500 plus folks are simply decent people getting on with their jobs. For now they can continue. Other related issues, the FA should regardless of all of this withdraw their support of Platini for FIFA completely and get right behind a decent candidate who will do the right thing - and one really stands out in my view - Chung Mong-Joon.
The remaining major European issue is that a number of clubs (effectively two with the support of one other for certain and I think now two more) are looking to accelerate a pan-European breakaway league – I have explained this before. Then there is finally the issue of the Euros in 2016 (Platini's baby) - how will they be impacted?
As for FIFA, the Ethics Committee are going down the “too much and get something wrong” is better than “too little and miss something” route. Like the big picture of FIFA, their reputation is all but shot. Next up is the election itself - will it be viable with perhaps only two decent candidates (Chung Mong-Joon and Ali Bin Al-Hussein) from the outset? The first effort will be to deflect the efforts by some folk to move the FIFA election forward or back. Then there are going to be sponsorship issues for FIFA. Then the 2022 world cup issue will be back to the fore. And whilst all of this is going on, the assets of CONCACAF have been frozen - this is where the US started with their investigation and a number of accounts are frozen (certainly any in US Jurisdiction). The United States Justice Department does not work quickly and such it could take a long time (years) to come to court in the United States. The Swiss Feds have acted as a result of information provided by the US which is, I understand, compelling enough for them to begin a separate investigation.
Overlaying all of this now is the need for the clarification of charges against a number of people - this will likely come from the US but in itself will likely require various folks be extradited to America, probably Florida - and that could take many years (perhaps even 10 or more). If Jack Warner is still around by the time that happens then he will turn to give evidence for the DoJ and they get to look in his basement.
FIFA will survive for the time being and again the majority of the 400 plus staff are doing a good job. The only thing to change this would be all FIFA assets being frozen and perhaps the Pan-European breakaway – which will likely cause at least the complete reorganisation of UEFA.}
12 Oct 2015 20:02:54
Great read Ed
12 Oct 2015 20:18:08
Brilliant ed2 ed2 for fifa president me thinks!
12 Oct 2015 20:18:25
Ed2, sincerest thanks! I have been following the news on these stories and, with genuinely no attempt at creeping, that's the most informative read to date by a country mile. It certainly puts a different perspective on things rather than the sensationalising I only ever hear on tv news.
As always to you and your good colleagues, thank you.
Bryan
12 Oct 2015 20:42:02
I understand it is a likely eventuality from what ed002 has said but doesn't anyone think a pan-european breakaway would almost destroy football both present day and its history. It might be a bit naive but that would take a huge amount of the romance out of football. I'm completely ignoring the administrative problems it might pose.
I don't really know how some teams would survive, if all the sponsorship moved away and clubs were still stuck with wages they wouldn't pay. Say Liverpool were involved in the breakaway for the sake of argument and Everton were not, would that be the end of competitive matches between them? Same with United and Liverpool or Tottenham and Arsenal. If you lose any of Chelsea/Utd/Liverpool/Arsenal etc. from the Premier League would the League lose its prestige? Maybe. I know the Fa/League cup have lost a bit of the magic but it would something terribly sad not to see those smaller teams & players upsetting premier league sides.
I know ed002 has said only one or two clubs are really looking to accelerate the breakaway at the moment but the prospect seems infuriating. But it might be the direction the commercialization of football is forcing the sport. I wish I knew more of the reasons why there would need to breakaway and the consequences.
12 Oct 2015 21:36:23
It would change football, not necessarily destroy it.
Sadly the teams that breakaway would become a bit isolated IMO and it would eventually be to their own detriment.
Local fan base will always remain and there will always be a place for a national league in England. I can't see the European breakaway lasting long with little or no away fans. I can see it becoming a bit like pro-wrestling or the Harlem Globetrotters.
{Ed002's Note - It is where all of the big money would go - sponsorship, television and other media, etc..}
12 Oct 2015 22:00:22
Ed002 thank you kindly for the explanation
12 Oct 2015 22:31:37
The break away league will not fill stadiums, it will destroy football as it needs the stadia full.
12 Oct 2015 22:22:18
I still don't see this pan European breakaway ever happening
12 Oct 2015 22:20:36
Thanks ed can you tell us which clubs are pushing for the breakaway?
{Ed002's Note - It is unimportant to Liverpool.}
12 Oct 2015 23:23:09
Yes you're probably right Ed about money, sponsorship and media, but the game is more than that. In some respects the game was better before satellite TV and mega money sponsorship. Ticket prices were affordable to the working man, players & managers were ordinary blokes.
It would be a shock to the game, but the game would survive and eventually thrive again.
{Ed002's Note - The fans are not those that the owners are looking to please.}
13 Oct 2015 00:18:00
I understand, I think, Ed. I just think those teams will become less of a relevance. I think their support will wilt away without the fans.
Football has been about competing with your rivals. When your rivals are thousands of miles away speaking a different language with a different culture, there is not the same competitiveness about the game. I predict it will just be a billionaire's TV p-ing contest and the rest of the world will be watching their local teams live. It may not have the best players, but it will have the best competition.
{Ed002's Note - Er, no.}
13 Oct 2015 07:10:32
The best players will go with the break-away league because that will be the elite competition, like the CL is now, and that is where all the money will be. The regional national leagues in most countries will likely be the second-tier competitions form which players will try to escape, like Championship players trying to escape to get into PL.
13 Oct 2015 07:21:23
I completely disagree Ron.
If you're talking about local fan base, yeah sure. Worldwide fan base? They will move together with the Pan-European breakaway.
13 Oct 2015 18:27:30
Well only time will tell.
There will always be a football league in this country.
European leagues don't whet my appetite to be honest.
12 Oct 2015 16:30:51
has any of the eds heard any injury updates? I believe coutinho was back in training today along with lovren but was wondering if any updates of availability for Saturday for benteke, firmino, Flanagan or henderson? many thanks guys.
{Ed002's Note - The club has said nothing of injuries in recent days.}
12 Oct 2015 17:06:16
Physio room.com is good for updates.
12 Oct 2015 17:21:40
P Coutinho - Groin/Pelvis Injury - 17th Oct 15
D Lovren - Ankle/Foot Injury - 22nd Oct 15
R Firmino - Back Injury - 31st Oct 15
J Henderson - Metatarsal Fracture - 21st Nov 15
J Flanagan - Knee Injury - After missing all of last season with a serious knee injury, the young scouser is fighting his way back following another operation in April - Dec 15
What Physio room says about our current injury situations mighty
12 Oct 2015 18:15:17
What about Benteke mate please?
12 Oct 2015 18:44:41
Benteke should of been fit, unless he as had a set back.
12 Oct 2015 20:01:38
I hope so, Mighty! He`s been a Spurs killer for some time now.
12 Oct 2015 21:52:03
Mighty are you depressed now that BR has gone?
12 Oct 2015 22:14:05
Famobip how silly of me to support a Liverpool manager? God I am well out of order.
13 Oct 2015 07:14:21
Lovren and Coutinho are already back and trained yesterday alongside Milner, Sturridge, Toure, Sakho, Moreno, Teixeira, Lucas and 3 young goalkeepers.
It is noticeable that Enrique is missing from that list even though he is not injured. I think it is fairly safe to say he is still in limbo even though Klopp has come in.
13 Oct 2015 07:53:07
Mighty I don't get this 'support the manager argument'. It is not about meeting him in the street and booing him. There was a long debate here in the fans banter site if it is a good idea to replace BR in Kloop, many people thought it is a great idea and you consistently argued it was a bad idea. I just try to understand if you still think he should have stayed.
13 Oct 2015 09:01:16
Fanobip not once did I say it was a bad idea, so please get your facts right, what I said was that there are no guarantees in football even if you change your manager, these pages became very boring, very depressing and very very repetitive, every post was the same, some of our fans even wanted us to lose, it was a sad state of affairs, life is too short to just hear the same thing over and over, I am a positive person, even more since the change of manager to be honest mate.
12 Oct 2015 16:02:04
G'Day Eds :)
Just wondering if you're aware of any players who were formerly of interest to Dortmund that may now attract interest from Liverpool now that Klopp is in charge.
For example I read on here that Loris Karius was on Dortmund's radar and is now being linked to us, any others similar to this situation that are or could become of interest?
Many thanks :)
{Ed002's Note - No. I am not aware of Liverpool suddenly in the past four days having a new set of ex-Dortmund targets.}
12 Oct 2015 18:09:37
I'm comfortable with signing no-one and just seeing how well he can do with the players at the club.
I don't see why the owners should spend anymore.
Anyway, we've lacked fitness all season so it will be interesting just how much better the playes perform with a kick up the arse during training sessions.
Let's face it, there's certainly enough talent.
12 Oct 2015 21:03:11
I agree that we don't need to go splashing out on new players.
The rest of this season is a free hit for Klopp, he won't be judged on it so it's pointless signing loads of players. He should spend the rest of this season evaluating the current squad(s) and build from there.
The main glaring hole IMO is the goalkeeper. That would be the area I would address but January is not a good time to buy.
13 Oct 2015 07:16:20
There is still almost everything to play for in the rest of this season, so I would think the manager would be trying to win trophies while he develops the players to play the way he wants. The players will surely be monitored closely and if any changes are made it has to be in the summer.
12 Oct 2015 15:49:19
Hi Ed's
First thanks for your work over the manager change, I can imagine some heads banged against some walls.
Second, I know everyone seems to be hyping over the fact JK went to see the U18's at stoke is this something he did regular at BVB?
I seem to remember BR doing the same thing at the very start of his tenature.
Cheers!
{Ed002's Note - I really wouldn't get in to such matters. There is nothing in it. His focus will be on the first team.}
12 Oct 2015 15:18:53
Looking at our current situation we have the opportunity to really set the club up for the future if you take certain future events into account. Firstly as Ed 1 has implied top 4 will not be top for for much longer, its most likely it will be a top 3. This means teams paying those kind of champions league wages and having playing staff who demand that level of football will have major issues. For arguments sake let's say its Arsenal in 4th this year and they don't get champions league football. I think it will be difficult for them to keep Sanchez and Ozil and same would go for any of the regular top 4 sides.
We have a manager who's ideally suited to improving decent players so we can try to escape the wage trap were in currently. let's hope we look to the future and build a squad of players who don't demand champions league just to play for us and are not getting paid stupid wages for mid table performances. We need to be able to balance the books without champions league money so we can use that money if it comes our way to improve the club.
12 Oct 2015 16:44:52
If you put as much effort into singing and supporting as you do fretting over the books we be ok. That's your job mate don't worry your head over stuff that don't concern you. That's why Anfield like a library. Everyone biting there nails wondering if we be able to pay the bills. Scream the team on.
12 Oct 2015 14:27:51
Eds001
Apologies if I am wrong eds but was it you who has been quite critical of BR, in his work ethic and the way he perceived himself to be a tactical genius but chucked everyone round him under the bus when it went tits up.
I love the fact we now have JK, your description of him as a 'lives and breathes football' sounds very promising.
I cannot say I saw him much as Dortmund coach, do you think his tactical knowledge of the game will be more obvious than BR who seemed to shrink when things were going bad ?
Will JK be able to use his experience to change our games when they are not going well, I always felt this was our weakness, we sort of lost the fight as most good coaches can. hopefully
{Ed001's Note - he is better at that than Rodgers was, but his main strength is the way he inspires players to play better.}
12 Oct 2015 13:34:26
{Ed033's Note - Latest Liverpool Rumours Podcast now posted about Jurgen Klopp as the new Liverpool FC Manager
12 Oct 2015 15:08:48
Great podcast Edd001 and benny. Enjoy listening to them during work.
Id encourage many on the page to listen to the Liverpool podcasts. Very interesting.
12 Oct 2015 18:08:22
Haha must have been a bad idea. Now worries gentlemen
12 Oct 2015 11:32:15
Morning Eds
Will there be an announcement when Klopp brings in his backroom staff and is it looking likely that it will be his backroom staff from Dortmund?
And is Fowler still in the running as he has reportedly expressed his desire to work with Klopp
{Ed002's Note - The club has already confirmed it.
I understand Fowler might be offered something.}
12 Oct 2015 15:19:41
I really want us to avoid emotional decisions here. I don't get any impression from Fowler when I hear him speaking in interviews that he is management material. Goal scoring legend all the same.
This statement may annoy a lot of fans, but I think the likes of Sami Hyypia would be a much better option as backroom staff. He has actually managed a variety of teams, and was a club captain so has leadership qualities.
I think United employing Giggs as manager post Van-Gaal might end up being an absolute disaster, or a modest success - either way its a risk I want them to take, not us.
12 Oct 2015 16:57:47
Sami Hyypia or Jamie Carragher for me.
12 Oct 2015 19:56:28
beavun ,
anyone we get in to do a job is a risk , its like when you buy a player from abroad it could be a risk just because he can't speak english , but i have faith in fowler he does not want to manage but he can use his experience to help players remain calm in the box when they go for goal , and sami and carra will also be a risk but they can pass on their experience which will help the team sami and carra helping our defence would be great as would fowler with the strikers
12 Oct 2015 22:27:23
Why Hyypia or Carra? Both absolute legends, never going to change. But Sami was an average to poor coach and Carra went into TV so assume no interest in coaching and I'd already miss him on sky .
Has JK said along the lines of great history but it's exactly that and he's here, start fresh and create new history, focus on now. Why bring back old players?
13 Oct 2015 19:46:42
Why would you assume that Sami was an average to poor manager?
12 Oct 2015 12:30:27
Ed1/Benny before you do the spurs podcast, If ed1 isn't watching it live then wait till ed1 has watched the replay before recording the podcast, So we can get both your opinions on the game, cheers.
{Ed001's Note - I can't watch it live for fear I will cause us to lose! I will try and watch the replay as quickly as possible afterwards.}
12 Oct 2015 12:41:41
Where can I find your podcasts ed1/benny? Are they on YouTube?
{Ed001's Note - yes mate, there is a podcast link at the top of the page and on the football-news-views.co.uk site as well.}
12 Oct 2015 16:13:30
Ed001 - cheers mate, I thought I was the only one that jinxed us by watching live - now I know there's at least one other lol :D
12 Oct 2015 12:06:26
Edds, Is Klopps coaching staff already in Liverpool? Buvac and the other guy.
{Ed002's Note - I have no idea where they are this morning.}
12 Oct 2015 13:22:31
Thanx edds
12 Oct 2015 12:02:47
We are in the best position that we have been in for years and only need to add a handful of players to compete not just for the BPL but also internationally. Jurgen Klopp is one of the top 5 club coaches in the world and as long as the transfer committee is correct in their scouting we will only get stronger as the years progress. We need to address the increasing club debt before look at signing further players but that will be improved by player departures.
With the new stand already under construction and many players set to leave either in January or next summer the restoration of our great club is under way.
12 Oct 2015 12:38:29
I honestly don't think Klopp will have many pennies to spend in Jan.If he get the lads we have playing a lot better and get CL footy they may/should release funds but as been mentioned before we will need to sell to fund new arrivals.
12 Oct 2015 12:54:55
maybe worth taking a breath before we go and conquere the world? It is nice u already have the BPL title in your pocket and think further, I will be thrilled with top 4 at this stage. I am as excited as anyone about Klopp and hope he can do some magic but this can take time and the other top 4 will not just sit and watch. They also have some decent managers and some very good managers. let's be a decent side first and take it from there step by step.
12 Oct 2015 13:08:58
I would settle just for a team with an identity again and players playing in their respective positions. From small acorns,mighty oaks grow
12 Oct 2015 13:47:53
Over quarter of a century since we last won the league is a catastrophe considering how much money we have spent within this time period. Top 4 should always be the minimum requirement but the aim should always be to win the league. We are 6 points behind the league leaders with a new lease of life instilled into the club as well as some very creative and attacking players. As long as JK sorts out the defensive situation quickly then why can't we win the league as I believe that our team now is better than 2013/4 as that was mainly Luis Suarez that was the difference maker during that season.
12 Oct 2015 14:47:16
Id be happy to get top 4 this season. Honestly we aren't in that bad a position in the table for the form we have been playing in i think. That said its harder than just bringing in JK, i'd look for regain stability and build a football identity and get top 4 and a good run in the cup!
I would be disappointed if FSG didn't give him decent support in summer with regards to transfers.
I hope Milner and Lallana improve or they should be dropped. Milner for me is extremely poor in the centre, no sense of positioning and his long balls are dreadful, the amount of times he over hits it is stupid. Lallana can't play outside as he drifts inside all the time rather than offer width.
I hope Ings gets a chance. He's got a top attitude hopefully finds the back of the net more!
12 Oct 2015 14:54:26
Players like Suarez make a big difference even with big managers like Klopp. Didn't he have Levandovsky in Dortmund? The fact that you think it is about time we win the league is not enough to win it. At this stage maybe even Klopp is not enough. Even he talked about 4 years. Give him time
12 Oct 2015 15:20:01
Fano, I agree with you in part HOWVER, the lewandowski of today was a 21 year old yongster from Lech Poznan when Klopp signed him. The Lewo we know today was created by Klopp hence, he can make some of our players with potential better. I agree that top players help no doubt BUT Klopp has shown he can mould good players into top players and I`m excited for that with LFC right now. As for out goals, let`s just focus on each game as it comes and see what happens.
12 Oct 2015 16:16:30
We already have a proven goal scorer in Daniel Sturridge who has a better goals to game ratio than Robert Lewandowski at this point of his career,
12 Oct 2015 11:10:08
Joe Allen
I'd encourage any LFC fans who haven't see any of the Welsh qualifiers to watch them at the Euro's.
I know Joe hasn't had the best time at Anfield so far but for Wales' campaign he has been outstanding - seeming to suit the pace of international football better than the hustle and bustle of the EPL.
And, with a manager who can inspire players (Coleman obviously can) who knows what improvements we may see in Joe under Klopp.
12 Oct 2015 11:20:52
It's a clean slate for all of the players including Allen.
12 Oct 2015 12:23:22
I have to agree with AG as under a new manager many players regain lost confidence.
12 Oct 2015 12:33:57
I've watched every Wales Qualifier. I'm not being funny but against Cyprus and Andorra you can ignore any performances.
In the way Wales set up,it was so defensive he was given a job to just sit,protect a back 4/5 and if the opporutnity ever arose, get the ball to Bale up front on the counter or Ramsey,who Coleman inexplicably played outwide or wingback at times.The brand of football was Horrific to watch,much like Brendan Rodgers.
It was not a tough job to do,Wilmots is ruining the Belgium side with boring possession football. The only expansive team we were against Bosnia drew and beat us.
Allen's over all contribution has been nothing special,even in the DM role,he was extremely lucky Williams has been emphatic and blocked the runs Joe let through,and covered for his weakness in the air.
I'm from Wales I support Wales but I am under no illusion that we are through because of 1 truly world class player and a great defender.
12 Oct 2015 12:38:11
Not sure about Balotelli, Enrique and Migs having a clean slate.
12 Oct 2015 12:41:16
As above new start for everyone if they can't raise there game now (by the way they should always put in 100% ) then I'm sure they will be moved on so let's back them all again fresh start and let's crack on.
12 Oct 2015 18:09:46
To be honest if joe can turn it round and become a regular first teamer then fair play to him. He has had a hard time of it and he will show great character (sorry) if he gets through it. Lucas didn't give up after all.
12 Oct 2015 10:36:21
Ed001, you mentioned how you think Teixeira is the most likely to get an opportunity under Klopp.
Did Ljinders encourage Rodgers to put him in the team at all?
Not just Teixeria, anyone else Ljinders put forward to Rodgers that he then ignored?
Cheers
{Ed001's Note - he was not really under Pepjin's remit mate, he was there for the younger players such as Rossiter. There was no one ignored, Rodgers knew his job was depending on his ability to bring through young players.}
12 Oct 2015 15:14:22
Ed1 sounds like Klopp is perfect for that?
{Ed001's Note - exactly, he will even watch them play to learn which are worth giving a chance to, which is new.}
12 Oct 2015 10:55:13
Does anyone know when Zeliko Buvac is due to arrive at the club? I've seen pics of Peter Krawietz already so am assuming his role is already formal.
Cheers
12 Oct 2015 11:16:24
I thought Buvac was already in Liverpool?
12 Oct 2015 11:37:11
I wasn't sure, AG. I know he's coming but didn't know if he was there for training today etc
12 Oct 2015 12:19:01
Collymore said that he was with Sturridge on Saturday for two hours and Sturridge had already spoken to Buvac but not Klopp so maybe he is in Liverpool already.
12 Oct 2015 10:42:04
Hi Eds, can you answer something for me please? I was wondering how typical loan moves work and if clubs can bring players back prematurely should they wish or if they contractually need to leave them for the loan duration?
Thank you
{Ed002's Note - It varies. The minimum period of a loan is one window and the maximum is now four - although in that case it would be possible to build a break clauses. Clauses for calling players back may include a financial penalty but will often include provision for a recall if the player is not being played enough or if the player gets injured.}
12 Oct 2015 11:11:36
Thanks Ed, much appreciated.
12 Oct 2015 09:55:07
So the flinging about of fantasy player names has begun.
"Surely Reus/Lewandowski/Muller/Goetze (fill in the blank) will want to come and play for Klopp", etc.
Part of the whole point of getting Klopp, and why many, including FSG, feel he is an excellent fit for Liverpool, as opposed to PSG or Real, is that he develops players. He does not spend vast sums of money buying them.
I think we can expect very little transfer activity in January (other than possibly some outgoings). And even in the summer.
If he is as good a coach as everyone thinks he is, we need to see what he can do, for the rest of the season at least, with the squad he has inherited.
12 Oct 2015 09:20:26
Klopp has only been with us for four days now, but apparently he is signing around 20 different players in January if all the reports are to be believed. Who didn't see this happening. The Ed's are in for a tough few months it seems with endless questions about players we are signing in January.
12 Oct 2015 09:42:25
TBH the eds never have it easy , its always either over depressed LFC fans they have to deal with or Over zealous LFC fans they have to deal with.
12 Oct 2015 08:58:44
Any chance of new podcast soon Ed01
Thanks
{Ed001's Note - we recorded it last night, it is just waiting on Ed033 to sort it and post it.}
12 Oct 2015 09:57:51
Thanks
12 Oct 2015 12:46:33
Thanx edd and benny. looking forward to listening to it when i get to work
{Ed001's Note - I hope it was worth the wait.}
12 Oct 2015 08:17:01
Morning Reds,
Away from the excitement of international football (I'm welsh) a weekend loan update for you.
Swindon continued their freefall down the league 1 table losing 2-1 to Peterborough. Vigouroux played the full 90, Williams is on international duty.
Harry Wilson was not in the squad as Crewe beat Barnsley 2-1
Awoniyi played the full 90 as FSV drew 1-1 with Mainz
Ryan Kent was not in the squad as Coventry beat Fleetwood 1-0. Coventry are now in the play off places.
Lloyd Jones injured his ankle playing for Blackpool and is out for up to 3 months. Despite the injury he is to stay at Blackpool for the rest of the season
12 Oct 2015 08:38:48
Thanks again mate
12 Oct 2015 09:48:44
was this awoniyi's first start?
12 Oct 2015 11:05:47
I think he started one previously, he's yet to score though.
Injuries have hampered his time there so far
12 Oct 2015 13:17:42
Cheers mate Vigoroux made an absolute howler did you see it?
12 Oct 2015 13:33:29
No I didn't know what happened? Just saw he got a low rating.
The kids probably a bag of nerves after the whole fine situation so a howler is the last thing he needs to win the fans back over.
12 Oct 2015 09:12:41
Wilson and Kent are on international duty. Kent scored for England u20s at the weekend
12 Oct 2015 04:46:30
A question for the eds. how did Mignolet come through the ranks and have the feet of a circus clown.He is truly woeful when kicking the ball off the ground, how was this not coached out of him at a very young age.I cringe every time he has to kick and I just know its going to skew off the outside of his foot and go out or head straight to an opposition player.It drives me crazy!
{Ed001's Note - it is not just kicking the ball, it is also stopping the ball he is hopeless with his feet. He will do everything he can to get his feet out of the way and try and get his hand down to the ball, rather than just stick his foot out. It is bizarre.}
12 Oct 2015 05:53:59
Also as GK we are taught to catch the ball and for that you need to use feet . its all about timing and the starting positioning.
However Mignolet punches the ball which means rather than using his feet he is throwing his body at the ball. his feet remain rooted and he throws his body to punch the ball . that is the only reason he is a bit good on one on ones because he throws his body and pathetic at almost everything else. his feet don't move. also his first movement no matter what is forward rather than sideways which means he has no line . as goalkeeper when trained with defence we are told to maintain a line which basically means anything inside the line is my responsibility . anything beyond that line i can either take charge or let the defense deal with it. but mignolet charges at everything which means, if he misses its and empty goal, if he mispunches its an empty goal and as any goal keeping expert would tell you only god knows where your punch will land. you can hit is the hardest and it still could land to a charlie Adam waiting to smash it from the half line. you are supposed to catch the ball , it kills the opposition attack, it is the first most duty of GK. All good keepers you will see catch the ball clean . and deploy the punch as a last resort
12 Oct 2015 09:35:40
even the sunderland fans told us he couldn't kick a ball,come for crosses or demand his area,so who went and watched him numerous times and said that is what we need at 11 mill
12 Oct 2015 10:17:41
I agree , he's a number two at best , he flaps at crosses and his punches always put us in more trouble , I hope I am not picking on him but he is what I would change first.
12 Oct 2015 15:22:55
I guess we can blame the TC for his arrival then.
12 Oct 2015 01:04:38
Why are fans so obsessed with massive transfers all of a sudden. If your wanting bags and bags of household names I think your going to be a bit upset. If you look at klopp's transfer record with Dortmund. You won't find many big household names. Most were relative unknowns and were turned into household names. Slow, steady and considered transfers is what you'll find I think.
12 Oct 2015 03:13:06
totally agree but Dortmund didn't have 300 mil available to squander like BR did.
12 Oct 2015 05:09:32
Agree. perhaps we can afford to sell one or two higher profile names to strengthen one or two key positions to get into top 4 on a more regular basis, however in the long term if we have patience and focus on bringing through Ibe, Markovic, Rossiter, Teixera, Illori, Gomez, Canos, Chirivella, Ojo we will have an outstanding crop of youngsters coming through to support the likes of Coutinho, Hendo, Coutinho, Sturridge, Benteke, Ings, Firmino, Sakho, Llalana, Moreno, Clyne who will be even more experienced in 2-3 years.
I'll be happy if we just try to focus on getting regular top 4 in the next year to two, and then hopefully we're challenging for the PL in 3 when we have a tight knit squad that has developed together and we can see the best out of the youngsters coming through.
12 Oct 2015 07:01:51
We are going to get linked with every Dortmund player, Germany player and ex-Klopp player and perhaps even couple of Mainz players over the coming months. This is how the media works and they will feed on the us fans' propensity to these sort of stories regarding transfers.
Already one idiotic reporter claims that Klopp believes we can buy Lewandowski, this from an interview where Klopp talked about bringing through young players and cited Lewandowski as an example. Laughable. Some fans have asked about Muller yesterday. Klopp hasn't had a chance to see all of the players train yet, let alone play a game of football, and already assumptions are made by the media that he wants this player and that player. And this will continue throughout the year I and it is upto us to see them for what it is - NONSENSE.
Klopp himself has said that the focus has to be on the players we have now, that he doesn't want to bring players using money the club doesn't have, and that the talk of transfers needs not be a focus and that he rather we talk about football.
12 Oct 2015 09:45:32
that is why our fisrt signing in next summer should be carlos vela at an astute 12 million pounds
12 Oct 2015 10:35:56
Carlos Vela?
Sorry, I don't see that at all. We have a huge excess of attacking players. Our problems do not stem from a lack of attacking players.
First priority : New keeper
Second priority: Sell a load of fringe players who are restricting the path of our young players.
Third Priority : A defensive midfielder.
Lewandowski, Vela, Reus etc etc are a complete waste of money for where we are right now.
12 Oct 2015 15:24:04
Klopp isn`t signing a soul unless he feels he needs a certain type of player to improve us.