Liverpool Banter Archive May 13 2014

 

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13 May 2014 23:10:58
I know I'm not supposed to believe twitter but has some EPL club approached chelsea to take Torres? If that's the case who is it? (My guess would be Spurs or Arsenal only if the rumour is true)

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{Ed002's Note - You think Liverpool are continuing to build for the future with Mascherano, Torres, Alonso and Reina returning?}

Read ed, I never said (and I don't expect) Liverpool bid for him. It was a generalized question.

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So why write to the Liverpool page asking about a non-LFC player who Liverpool are not interested in?

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{Ed001's Note - I agree, especially when there is a Chelsea page for him to ask on! Makes life so much easier for everyone if this would be asked there.}

It seems to be the popular choice these days; bring back Mascherano (29), Alonso (32), Reina (31) and Torres (30).

I wonder who is going to pay their wages?

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14 May 2014 11:36:45
Aldridge, Beardsley and Barnes all coming back to play alongside Suarez, Sturridge and Sterling as we don't have enough players in those positions already and they were awesome in the late 80's.

How far do people want to go back? This is a new side and I wouldn't want any player who has left LFC back at the Club, that went for Fowler and Owen when he realised he's ballsed up and goes for any player who has left over the past 4 seasons

new start, new approach, new players, new outlook

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13 May 2014 22:38:27
Do you think Liverpool will do any business in the next few weeks prior to the World Cup. Would be nice to get a few signings in ASAP. Would like to see a reserve keeper, left back, centre mid and another forward to strengthen the squad. What do you think Ed?

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{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

14 May 2014 06:40:53
Lallana - £25m

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13 May 2014 22:37:09
Question for posters. You're given the option at either one of these deals:

Lallana - £25m

Or

Konoplyanka - £15m (on the pretense that was around the general reported sum of his release clause)
Mascherano - £10m (on the pretense he has one year left on his contract)
Total - £25m

What would you go for?

JFT 96

JP

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Mascherano and Konoplyanka, that would almost complete our squad, all we'd need is a quality left back and another creative midfielder.

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Id like lallana but for £25 million i'd take kono and the monster mash!
i think somewhere between £17 -£20 million would be more than fair for lallana IMO

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{Ed002's Note - Figured out how? You can see why I don't want to discuss money.}

Can I have Konoplyanka and someone else for £10M? If so, that one.

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3 different positions pal

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I believe and correct me if i'm wrong eds, Southampton owe 25% of any fee they get from a Lallana sale to Bournemouth?

Southampton have no need to sell (even less so if Shaw goes), he's has probably been their best player this year. He is their captain and as long as Pochettino is around will take some convicing. The 'fair' valuation on Lallana is whatever Southampton are willing to sell at, he isn't going to be cheap. I would love love love to have Lallana, another dimension to our attack. I can only hope after we look to correct our defense.

Additionally I wouldn't want Mascherano at the club.

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Mascherano disrespected this club and the fans who paid his wages.

I'd sooner have Roy Hodgson back than ever see Mascherano take a wage from this club again.

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How do you know Konoplyanka is £15 million, Mascherano is £10 million and Lallana is £25 million?

Answer, we don't know. Which is why the Eds keep saying they don't want to discuss money.

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Ken,

Yes, Masch should of handled it better, but let's be honest, the club was in a right mess and Barca come calling, what would you do?

If we can put up with LS and his indiscresions over the last two or so years, then surely Masch could be considered? if there is actually a deal to be done, that is.

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Real ag it's a hypothetical situation. just play along with it. Jesus!

I'd take lallana.
As I;ve said previously Mascherano was always somewhat overrated by our fans. DM isn't particularly an area I feel we need to cover quickly. Kono I've not seen much, but I don't like players that's rely heavily on pace as it makes them 1 dimensional and their careers are over by 30.

Lallana can cross, captain, creat, score etc

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I understand mate but this kind of hypothetical questions have lead to abuse of the editors, which is why they don't tell us how much has been bid and how much Soton want for Lallana.

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Well said Marshy

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I understand ed correcting mike, but for me it was simply a question of what would you prefer rather than anything to do with finances etc.I took it as a bit of fun

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Refusing to play for the club and the fans is unforgivable. No exceptions.

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13 May 2014 21:31:22
I've seen a fair bit of Siquiera this season and every time he's stood out for me.
Cld we go back in for him or do you see benfica holding on to him?

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{Ed002's Note - I wouldn't think so.}

13 May 2014 21:20:36
I know this is probably just a rumour but appaerently we are readying a 30m bid for william carvalho? Do you see this as a good deal as he is 22 and a more defensive minded yaya toure exactly what we need in our midfield

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As a player he's brilliant watched a few times this season he's solid, but we got no chance with that price.

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Song at £8m or Diame at £6m seems wiser options for the price.

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@ haych no thanks for either player we already have better

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14 May 2014 08:08:28
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{Ed002's Note - If all you are going to do is trash one player after another and ruin posts for others there is little point in you using this site. Take this as a final warning.}

I agree with Haych, better value in those two, or if we do want to spend 30M, why not Pogba, potentially better than all of them.

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13 May 2014 20:35:25
Ok then are we along way off in terms of valuation surely 25m for a player with prem league experience and of his talent is worth a shot give us your low down of the lallana situation

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At that price w/ FSG`s policy of not overspending, ain`t going to happen.

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13 May 2014 19:10:56
Edd001, are you.about mate. Just wanted to know your thoughts on Henderson playing as a DM if he improves that aggression and positional sense in his game. I believe he would be the perfect CM, that can defend and attack if he improves those aspects of his game?

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{Ed001's Note - it would be a waste of his talents to shackle him into a defensive role. One of his biggest assets is the ability to get up and down the pitch all game. If he played as a DM, he would be sat in front of the backline.}

On that note, it occurred to me that gerrards two free kicks against newcastle show that he has the ability to get the ball behind a defence and inlock a tricky game. When he played right mid for rafa I think he had his best season putting those crosses in all the time and cutting back from the byline.

Do we thinks he would still have the legs for this position when required? I think its agreed hendo is better at the box to box job now. But he could sit right mid with an overlapping fullback making alternate runs with him.
Interested to see what others think. Even if he couldn't do it all season it would be interesting for games against teams that just defend

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I think that's a very good question. I think in an emergency situation it would be good to see Gerrard more advanced 'Super Gerrard' role (sorry, just made that up). Not sure if he would have legs or fitness to play the role more regularly. Would like to be proved wrong. We have however seen Gerrard achieve huge plaudits in the holding role and nobody as ability to play the quality of pass that he can in that role to generate defence into counter.

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Yes the super gerrard role I like it. It could be like playing our joker. Only when we need a change of ideas when we can't unlock the bus with our tickle-taka.
Someone else can drop back into the dm position like lucas. And then gerrard can just sit on the right wing pinging balls in across the six yard box and knock in some near post/back post fox in the box tap ins ;)

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Edd001, worded that wrong. I believe if he adds a few things to his game, he can become an excellent CM. His passing is very good, lots of energy, quick, hungry and can score the odd goal. I feel if he was.more aggressive in tackles and breaking up play( not rash) he would be one hell of a midfielder.

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13 May 2014 17:21:06
Hello Ed01, I would like to know your take on both Lallana and Konoplyanka since you are in the know and an expertise in football. And who amongst them is worth the punt? cheers.

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{Ed001's Note - both of them are worth getting for the right price. They are totally different players. Lallana is more creative, Konoplyanka is more direct running and pace.}

They are two different players. i'd hope wed get both ;)

Lallana I will keep repeating until i'm proved wrong is a wonderful.player. I see him really shining at the WC if played correctly.

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13 May 2014 20:39:32
Thanks Ed01 for your reply really appreciate, cheers.

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I`d take both if possible BT nly at the right price.

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13 May 2014 19:08:04
Edd002, are Liverpool intrested in any DM's you know except for carvalho who is not realistic? Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}

13 May 2014 18:59:39
Read a few places Liverpool could go for a 'sensational' move to bring mascha back! I know he left on bad terms, but those people have departed and stranger things have happened! Could provide key experience, plus, not saying Liverpool are better than barca, but they are not the force they once were and he's playing in a position barca are clearly looking to invest in, (looks like luiz.) I know its easy to believe as he was loved, but is it just completely fabricated?

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Sensational? Have you forgotten how he treated the club to force a move in the past?

He would be a dreadful influence on the dressing room and an insult to the fans.

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Disagree profG he left under a cloud yes but club was going nowhere n run by clowns. His response after barca beat utd said it all. I would have him 4 sure

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The sensational was in quotations marks because of the article I read claiming so. I think it meant more sensational in the way that it would be a shock if he returned after what happened!

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When he won the eurocup his first thought was to talk direct to Liverpool supporters on tv. To me he has a bond with us and would love to come back. Always gives 100%

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77% of our fans would welcome him back according to poll conducted by the Liverpool Echo, I am in the 77%.

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He needs to stay where he is. We have moved on from him and it should stay that way.

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I'm in the 23%. Liverpool fans paid his wages. Liverpool FC rescued his career from West Ham. He then defaecated on his own doorstep by refusing to play for the club.

Masch is muck!

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''rescued his career from westham''

Ken I enjoy your posts, but his career certainly didn't needs rescuing at that point matey.

On the original post. If we play the diamond, how will he fit in?
If we play 4-3-1-2 how will he fit in?

4-3-3 how does he fit in? He's played centreback for the past 2 years pretty much, gives away too many fouls doesn't really move the ball forward quick enough for counter attacking. He's not going to fit in and quite frankly Liverpool fans over rate him

I am CERTAINLY in the 23%

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He wasn't getting a game at relegation threatened West Ham.

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He'd played for corinathians who were a strong south American side and, was touted around Europe and subject to interest from some big clubs.
He'd played over 20 times for Argentina. His career certainly did not need saving. If west ham had held onto him by the end of the season, then sold him, he'd have still gone to Juve or Manchester United us etc IMO

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13 May 2014 18:48:13
Did Anyone see Mateo Kovacic vs Lazio at the weekend! Any update on where him and inter Milan stand ed?

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{Ed002's Note - Nothing involving Liverpool.}

13 May 2014 18:37:40
Congrats to Luis and Brendan for their well deserved awards and my hope Luis stays with us next season because there are no players in the world who can replace him apart from Messi and Ronaldo.

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Do you know why pulis and rodgers both got lma managers awards? I saw pulis won too?

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There will always be someone capable of replacing players, it's just about scouting the right gem,

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Pulis got the Premier League Manager of the Year (as given by a panel, I think), Rodgers got Manager of the Year as voted by his peers across all divisions (PL, Championship, League 1, League 2).

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With Brendan winning LMA award I think it proves the professional 'neutrals' of the game favoured Liverpool's challenge for the PL

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There`s nothing more rewarding than being recognized for your work by your peers. Bravo LS and BR!

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13 May 2014 18:03:02
Good morning respected eds and fellow fans.
Eds how much Liverpool expected to gain due to qualifying champions League and finishing second.
German clubs are financial healthy and their ticket prices are very low as compared to premiere league. How they manage to have such a good financial health and very good teams.

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{Ed002's Note - I don't want to get in to the money.}

I may be wrong but to my recollection German teams (except Munich) don't tend to spend £25-50 million every season on new transfers.

The premier league reflects our consumer society. Every transfer window our fans demand more new players bigger squads higher wages. More and more .year after year. It ridiculous and unsustainable. I guess German fans are a bit more patient and rational when it comes to transfers compared to the petulant and demanding premier league.

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Agreed with Ken on this. They also have a bit of an advantage in that when they do sell players on to other league (La Liga and the EPL in particular) they generally get a huge amount of money for them relative to what they spent on them in the first place (e.g. Kagawa cost Dortmund £300k, they sold him for £14M which is not a bad return by any stretch).

As well, Bundesliga wages aren't anywhere near PL levels generally either. I think Schalke, as an example, has a wage bill of maybe £50M or so. Compare that with ours at what, nearly £120M?

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13 May 2014 17:39:26
Going back to simons poster on the proposed league 3 which I found intersting and as my reply function does not seem to working properly here goes, i'm not sure how the proposed league 3 will work but because of the money in the game I can understand it but do not agree, we need to go back to the 3 foreigner rule so that the biggest clubs do not get the monopoly on all the best players instead this would be evened out throughout the world, this would give youngsters a great chance of getting in the first team at there clubs and if not at least a chance to play at the top level, this would give our international team a lot more choice .At the moment a very small percentage actually come out of the academies into first teams, I also believe that if any reserve sides start up by their clubs they should start at the very bottom like all new sides do :)

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The amount of foreigners in the English game has absolutely no bearing on the lack of quality English players or the dismal plight of the England team.
The sooner people realise this the sooner we can address the real problems

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Hear hear chris
If the english can't train hard enough ot learn enough skills to displace the foreign players then that's the problem.

Any ukip type myopia attempt at reducing the number of foreigners wod just be a detriment to our great league at the moment.

I don't know what greg dyke is smoking over there at the fa. They could do any number of grass routes schemes like trials for regional fa youth teams etc

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Id suggest the fa speak I rupert lowe. He set up the whole southampton youth scheme. Ask him how he did it amd spread that gospel.

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13 May 2014 17:33:07
Its reported that Saints want 30m for Lallana. If that's the case it won't happen and we should walk away. Not that we would pay that money anyhow for a player. Might as well move onto someone else.

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Agreed 30 mil is a bit steep .
I don't think we should be paying big money. Look at spurs/ chelsea signings recently. There is better value out there if that's the price

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But the manager should be backed he deserves it.

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He's worth £15m to a sensible CEO.

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Only reading what is in the media so not sure if it is true but it states Bournemouth would get 25% sell of the transfer of Lallana.

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Mighty Reds, the manager should be backed but in a way where the club`s funds should be spent wisely. Lallana is not a 30m player and even he knows it. He`s a 15m player and if the saints want more then they should do one. There are creative players all over the globe. Let the scouting dept get to work.

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13 May 2014 17:28:49
We go to Shamrock, exactly the same! We don't let this slip!

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I won't let my pint slip, that's for sure.

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That would have been some night out in dublin if we'd won the thing .

That said, it will be some night out in dublin anyway ;)

Enjoy!

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I am going and I can't wait

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13 May 2014 16:20:09
Reports in Portugal say Liverpool have bid 24.5m for
William Carvalho.

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It ain't happening fella.

Eds has pretty much confirmed its not true.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool looked at the player earlier in the year but I am not aware of any interest right now. The asking price is through the roof.}

Sounds like fictionary to me.

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Completely fabricated reports imo. If we do end up paying 25 million for lallana which is looking increasingly likely, there is no way BR would be able to spend a similar sort of fee on another player. don't forget this sort of spending could land the club in hot water with UEFA over FFP.

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Asking price through he roof. So the reported 24.5m bid from us is some way under his value. I don't no why certain sites make such madness up tbh.

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I maybe wrong but aren't Sporting looking for something like £35 million for him?

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Ain`t happening.

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13 May 2014 16:15:21
Sources close to me are telling me that we have put a bid in for lallana, keep it quite though because it's all hush hush;-)

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Hahah, did they tell you how much Waro old chap?

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£177 million (pounds sterling ) AG, you heard it hear first, my sources are never wrong.

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Bargain!

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13 May 2014 16:03:51
General internet & rumours flyin about seem to link us with
A.cole(free transfer but would b on mega wages & a massive pot of gold signing on fee
Subotic(fee banded bout is 15m) can't see this one at all but seems a commanding cb we all seem to crave
Lallana(fee banded about is 20/25m) think this guy is top quality & would enhance us a lot if it were to b pulled off
Konoplyanka(fee banded about is 15m) can't really say I've seen much of him all I know is I was excited about his suspected arrival in january & must admit had a bit of a sex wee when thought it was going through, but as I said I can't really comment on his ability apart frm spurs game in europa & england in international game but looked good in those games
Tello(fee banded about about 10m) I like this guy alot, unbelievable speed & knows were the goal is, doesn't get nowhere near enough game time at barca but everytime I see him he impresses, of course he raw & his decision makin it not always correct but I think br main strength is actualy coaching players & I think he would turn this guy into a superstar.
My question is would u guys b happy with these 5 or do u think we completley off track with these guys. I know most if not any of these will actually arrive but thought I would jus like 2 c were everyone thought would this b a succesfull summer if they did?

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I would be happy with Lallana, Kono, Subotic and Tello but I don't see what Cole would bring to our team that we don't already have in Enrique.

Plus not including wages, agent and sign on fees we are looking in the region of 75m from what you have suggested. I can't see us spending that much even if we need the squad depth and strength for CL games.

Kono and Tello both seem like a big risk to me, we have show little or no interest in Subotic and Lallana is barely needed in an already overcrowded position.

I pesonally would be happier with roughly 20m on a CB and 20m on a LB and to utilise the returning loans and youngsters we have.

Suso, Texiera, Ibe, Borini, Wisdom and LLori are all talented players, use em before we lose em.

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Love the way all the posts refer to attacking players when it's blatant that we need defenders but hey this is championship manager or fantasy football isn't it! LB, CB please and goalie then more on

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We don`t need defenders. We need a well-drilled defence.

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13 May 2014 16:03:02
What about the option of a big bruiser of a centre forward as our third choice, Borini has had a great season but with other teams looking to 'park the bus' next season it would be a nice option to have a player competing with the oppositions centre halves and breaking balls down for our attacking players. Not looking to spend a fortune on another Andy Carroll but there must be options of big aggressive centre forwards out there at good value, thoughts lads?

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Dont think it is needed we have a great squad with fast skillful players, the problem with big guys is they tend to be slow and the normal comment is he is good with his feet, AC would not have enhanced our team much. but if the manager wants a big guy we will get behind them.

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13 May 2014 16:42:46
Yes I agree, sometimes in the season we found it hard to break teams down, west brom, palace and agree we need some good options, how about lakuku he has done it last 2 seasons on loan we may get a good deal but if we can't still agree we need one more striker along with sas and borini :)

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Lukaku will cost 20 mil plus. I think we should look at a big striker and backup, experienced, not clumsy and cheap enough. I don't see a better option than Ricky lambert to be honest! Cracking footballer as well as decent with his head, not in the England squad for nothing! Plus he doesn't start every game for soton, and may jump at the chance to play for a team like us, plus pretty sure he's as scouser!

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It's not the way we play, I can't see it happening.

I think the whole 'plan B' argument has moved on. I used to be a proponent of it too. The scenario goes like this: 70 minutes, we're struggling to break a team down playing our normal style, so what to do? 1) Make subtle tactical changes and bring on fresh legs. 2) Bring on a big man and change our style completely to one we're not familiar with.
Call me crazy, but to me, option 1) will triumph more often than radical option 2).
Another thing: which team did we struggle to break down this season where we scored over 100 goals?
Chelsea? Well Chelsea have one of the best defences and, in my opinion, lumping it up to a big man will not trouble Chelsea one bit.

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Ken, I don't want Liverpool too lump it, no ones wants to watch that! But, max it is compact, in the defensive zones, eg, at Chelsea, a man who can out power a defender from a cross could benefit us! I still hope we keep possession, much alike city with dzeko, but utilise his strengths from attacking positions. The thing with Carroll was, he didn't have as much ability as other players mentioned, as he almost entirely relies on power and strength.

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I disagree ken, remember the FA cup final against Chelsea a couple of years ago? Carroll came on and completely changed the game.

I would like to have a strong skilful forward like lukaku; he's proven in the epl and defences can't handle his strength or speed.

Plus he is a very skilful player. However the chances of him joining are slim, why would he want to play second fiddle to the SAS?

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Sorry Biggy, I disagree. When we played FA cup against Chelsea, both clubs had different manager, we had a completely different style and generally different players.
We tried to play with wingers, getting downing to cross to Carroll etc.

Against 18 premier league teams our style totally terrorised them. Against Chelsea, when we were emotionally and physically spent, we struggled. I don't see why we can't trust the current style to succeed. Surely our problems are with goals conceded, not breaking teams down.

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No big striker (except mybe Lukaku) can cope w/ the speed with which we play and move the ball.

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13 May 2014 15:49:40
We need a left back.(sissokho)
We need a winger (moses)
CB (toure is getting on I am afraid that the injuries kelly had will cost him and us).
with all these extra matches next season we will need another midfielder and a striker of the level like suarez/sturridge.
i don't think borini is the answer.
i am reading that lallana is a done deal but do we really need him knowing we have suso and texeira.
we need to spend our budget on alberto moreno, lovren and depay a very young winger from psv eindhoven.
depay was the best player in the dutch league this season.
i have no strikers in mind that we should have a look at but I am hoping we spend our budget on 4 players that can be starters.
no need to buy players like aspas/alberto/assaidi, we can give rossiter/smith/wilson/dunn some minutes when needed.
Malta

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13 May 2014 15:47:25
Afternoon all.

Ed02.
Rumours are growing on the net that we will be in for Ashley Cole.
You have said we have shown "no interest" in him before the season finished. Has the situation changed?
I have looked at previous responses in the search engine. All of which seem to indicate "no interest".
I would have thought the amount in wages alone would have put us off, never mind the signing on fee and the amount of palms that would need greasing to make the deal viable.
Is this another case of lazy journalism or is there some truth in the rumour?

vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has shown no interest in Cole and if they did it would be an expensive option for a player in his 30s with significant signing on fee and wages. I assume Flanagan would recover from the kick in the teeth. Even though the club cannot talk to the player he is aware of a number of options. The MLS is one. A very significant offer from Turkey is another. There is interest from one EPL side but it is not Liverpool and I understand they stepped back when the costs were mentioned. Potentially he could still stay at Chelsea another year still.}

13 May 2014 15:45:48
As we are only 16 weeks away from the transfer window slamming shut, I thought now would be the good time to ask how many players do we think 'Arry will sign this summer, and how many of those will be on deadline day. I'm going for 14 new players, with 6 on deadline day. Maybe this could be the next poll of the day, eds?

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13 May 2014 15:39:55
Congratulations to Brendon Rodgers for winning the LMA Manger of the Year award. An excellent reward as it is voted by the 92 managers across the PL, CS, L1, L2.

Also Congratulations to Luis Suarez on winning:

1. Barclays Player of the Season.
2. Golden Shoe.
3. Football Writer's Player of the Year.
4. LFC Player of the Year.
5. Players Player of the Year.
6. LFC goal of the Year.

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13 May 2014 15:22:48
One for the Eds and anyone with an opinion on the League 3 proposals.
I know it's not worth getting too worked up about because the FA have no control over implementation of some of their proposals but I would like to get people views on whether it would work.

The biggest problems I can see are if the reserve teams are good enough to compete in a higher league, the best experience the players will get is at Championship level (because I would imagine the reserve team cannot play in the same league as the first team) which hardly prepares them for Premier league or international football. Established clubs would be pushed down the divisions or out of the league with possible loss of good clubs and football for their communities.
Existing clubs in a division could go into a season knowing the best position they can finish in is 8th or 9th due to 7 or 8 premier league B teams being in their division with better players and better resources.
If the B teams find that they cannot compete, the standard of football the young players will be learning will be lower than Championship and even worse for their development. They will be playing battle hardened pro's (I know that is the point) who will be older, stronger and tactically better if not better players and I think it will restrict their development.
And who will turn up to support the Ressies anyway? There could be more away fans turning up than home supporters.
There needs to be a solution that forces clubs to play young players or release them so no team has loads of young players with no route into the first team. Then those players released can actually have a career rather than sitting in academy or ressie sides until they are 25 with 3 sub appearances to their name and no chance of making it. Then it would support the league system by better players being spread throughout the leagues and clubs rather than 10 clubs having 3 or 4 sides of top 2 division players with a restricted number even getting a game.
Also with the proposal to use the loan system - why do clubs send good young players to clubs in lower leagues with inferior coaching than their parent club to learn football at a level where you get away with a mistake that you couldn't in the premier league? It seems to me that if you send a young player to league one for experience you will get back a league one player.
Any thoughts from Eds or posters very welcome.

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13 May 2014 14:33:54
eds, what do you think will happen to Martin Kelly?

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{Ed002's Note - I have no idea. Some sort of holiday over the summer perhaps?}

Class.

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LMFAO.

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Do you reckon he's looking at Spain or a bit further afield? Can get to Spain for 3/400 all inclusive, but he may be looking for a bit more quality than that?

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{Ed002's Note - He will go where all of his chums go no doubt.}

13 May 2014 14:59:52
Eds, Are we seriously in for William Carvalho?, His Release clause is somewhere 37 mill.

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{Ed002's Note - TRy the search function please.}

We have scouted him, but that seems to be it.

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13 May 2014 14:55:57
For me a great summer would be;
Rojo
Lovren
Lallana
And Konoplyanaka

And also put in a cheeky loan to buy bid for jack Rodwell, who I think BR can work his magic on and turn him into the complete DM he was always touted to turn into.

Sell aspas, skytel, Enrique and Coates and other fringe players to make room for the likes of rossiter, McLaughlin and smith to make more squads. Give Johnson one more year to let some of our excellent full backs progress to hopefully first teamers. Although I'm torn maybe just ship him out and let flanno take the rb spot.

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Agree on transfer ins except Rojo. I think we can do better. Also, for Lallana, cost would have to be looked at. Perhaps a similar player could be got at a lower price.

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Rojo would be a fine signing imo Real AG.
He is a solid defender who would add pace, height and strength to our back line. Personally, I would play him LB and move Flanno to RB.

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13 May 2014 14:46:47
Edds? Favorite alcoholiic drink? X

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{Ed002's Note - None of us are old enough to drink alcohol.}

Nothing is better than a cold desperado beer with a lime in it.

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Come on ed your old enough to have invented alcohol lol

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Sure your old enough Ed, I seen you in the picture of the last supper. You Jesus and the other 11 apostils. Use were all drinking wine as well.

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13 May 2014 15:47:10
Something about a cocktail party the other day Ed02? Or is it a different type of cocktail?

I'll be happy with a Corona.

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Raj, lime is best with a cold Corona.

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Desperados are lethal Red Raj! They go down like pop, next thing your talking crap to everyone haha

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13 May 2014 14:40:07
Now the season is over I would like to show some appreciation tithe work put in by Eds especially 1 and 2 on the Liverpool site. How they know what they know is their business but you must admire the relative accuracy of information. Why would anyone believe newspaper rumours when more accurate info is available here. Although I don't post often (because I know nothing), I always read the posts. Can't wait for the drama of who we're signing rumours to start flying around. And of course the editors wit and sarcasm to some of the posts. Annual SAW award goes to Ed02 (sarcasm and wit) closely followed by ed001. Well done guys.

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{Ed002's Note - You are very sweet Jim.}

I have to second that. We're extremely lucky to have these guys running the site and keeping us up to date with everything that's going on, so it's a testament to their patience that they still take the time to respond to so many posts - even if the response is sarcastic, or not the answer you wanted!

Great work by all of you. This is a brilliant site and long may it continue!

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I third that. Knowledgable, (mostly) patient and a sense of humour!

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13 May 2014 14:19:27
ED001/002,

Can I ask your opinion on Lallana's proposed transfer to Liverpool.

A) Do you think he would be a good signing?

B) If you were BR (with the intimate financial knowledge of the club), what fee would you pay up to? (Without discussing in too much depth the echelons of fee/costs - a ball park figure).

I personally think he would be a terrific signing and if we had 60 million kitty (which I know is media nonsense but wouldn't be a completely ludicrous rough guideline) - I would pay up to 25M for him.

Cheers in advance.

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{Ed002's Note - I am not going to get involved in discussing money but Liverpool has a serious interest in him.}

OK fair enough cheers ED.

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13 May 2014 14:13:24
If we are actually going for a centre back, then I kind of hope we sell agger and skrtel! Both been good servants for the club, but especially in agger, their time has come to leave! Sahko plus one, then ilori as third choice! The odd game and cup competitions for us will do him more good than a loan to a struggling la liga side! Toure is fine as 4th choice as I still believe he is a decent player, and can come in if ilori isn't ready at all! Also could teach a few things to our new shake defence!

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13 May 2014 13:15:21
we need a new keeper.one that's as good as mingolet in shot stopping but he also needs to come for crosses and also clear the ball not wait for attacker to be down his throat.flaners to right back.new left back.a quality one.two EXPEIENCED centre backs.a defensive midfielder with power and pace.lallana and keep suarez

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Begovic is excellent in my opinion, rarely has an off day.

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13 May 2014 14:17:31
Begovic won't come to be second choice.

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Begovic was apparently rodgers' first choice when we bought mignolet

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I think begovic is much better in every area that mignolet has as a weakness, but mignolet is a ninja when it comes to shot stopping.

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13 May 2014 12:49:06
Deary me
An enquiry for another CB. We have sakho, toure, agger, and huge potential in kelly and lori for CB. Buying another CB, is not going to.fix defense. BR should go sakho, your my first choice, I want you to command and lead with lori beside him. We will waste more money for another non talker who will probably sit on the bench after a few games and skrtl will be letting them in again next season. We really just need a top LB. And this talk of lallana and 20million. You's wanted willian and myktyran( spelling) for 30million who are nowhere near as good as lallana. Lallana.is a wonderful player. If he was Brazilian, i'd hear let's pay 50million and get the boy. Honestly shut.up to to the minority, talk.nonsense

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13 May 2014 13:06:01
Big Al.

We have sakho, toure, agger, and huge potential in kelly and lori for CB

having players and being quality are completly different.
Sakho should be our first choice, Toure is just a cup games or cover for our defence. Agger is injured half the season and is getting older.
Kelly, I am afraid would be moving out in the summer. That leaves us with Llori and skertel.

After conceeding 50 goals (more than some teams golas socred), If you think defense shouldn be fixed, Then I give up here.

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13 May 2014 13:08:08
Regarding Willian, He is still a very good player, But when you play him too defensive midned, you won't get any benfits.
Hazzard is a great player, But he looks more like a LWB with chelsea. I don't think Suarez would score 30 goals for chelsea, As he would be told to track back more than go forward.

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I agree on Ilori and Lallana. Ilori looks like he would compliment Sakho and Lallana has looked superb this season, through the middle and outside.

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Kelly has made only 9 appearances in 2 years. He is nowhere near ready to feature just yet.

Ilori has shown a lot of promise, but he is only 21 and inexperienced. He would be very good as back up to a more experienced player.

Agger, when fit is our best overall defender, and for me he and Sakho provide adequate cover at left centre back.

Toure is merely a squad player.

Wisdom is more of a right back than a centre back and will probably go out on loan again next season.

If anyone is to be replaced it is Skrtel. Although his defensive stats have been impressive, he has a tendency to switch off and play too deep. Pace is also a problem for him.

Whoever Rodgers brings in has to be top quality. We can't have as much chopping and changing at the back next season as we have had this season. This is one signing Rodgers needs to get right. We don't want to end up with another centre back who doesn't improve on what we already have.

I do agree that we also need a left back, but I think we also need a right back that won't neglect his defensive duties like Johnson.

Red Rum

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13 May 2014 13:45:43
We could afford only one, LB or RB, don't see both coming in. Flanno would go to RB and Johnson would see out his contract at Liverpool.

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Effectively we've added a fullback to our squad this season in flanno, as he was not expected to be as good as he has been! I'd sell johnson, get what we can for him, probs 3 mil region, save the years wages and buy one full back of quality! Doesn't matter which side because flanno can play both sides, Enrique covers left and wisdom or kelly covers right!

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13 May 2014 12:45:12
Good morning Ed's, I'll make this simple and a one time question as I'm sure you'll be bombarded every day. Do you think Suarez will leave this summer? I personally do not as we have champions league and he seems to be enjoying himself. But if a crazy offer came in would we be tempted or stick to our guns? Thanks!

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{Ed002's Note - What I think is of little relevance - I can only tell you of where there is interest. And there is interest in Suarez as you know.}

13 May 2014 12:28:29
Hi Eds,

I think Lallana even at 20-25m (no idea what our opening bid was but from eds reaction its probably not that) would be a great signing.
He's 26, at his peak, can beat a man and is just what we need in games like Chelsea to produce a spark to break down packed defences (something we will be seeing a lot more of at Anfield next season after out attacking talents have been exposed).
Also people likening him to downing/carroll transfers is stupid. Lallana is a completely different player, who got in the EPL team of the year playing for a mid table club ahead of some huge names that are valued at 30/40/50+ mil.
I think what Brendan is doing in building a young, energetic English squad around Gerrard and Suarez is just what the club needs. Hendo, Studge, Sterling, Lallana, Flanno, Wisdom (Eng U21s Captain) to come back in.
Bring into that Suarez and Coutinho, and Borini who did really well at Sunderland to be fair to the lad, and I don't see LFC really needing to make much further investment into front 5 even with CL to come, except maybe a winger.
Just the defence that needs sorting now.
I for one can't wait for next season, and trust Brendan and FSG in all their business this summer!
Sorry for long post. Keep up the good work eds

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^fellani cost 28million. Well leave it at thAt. Lallana is a great player that will stick out like a sore thumb in the england team

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13 May 2014 12:56:01
We don't have the money to splash 20-30 mill on a single player. It has hardly anything to do with Lallana. don't think we could afford Messi, If the price was 35 mill

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Also I for one think Lallanas going to have a big world cup and if it isn't done by then we'll be wishing we had signed him for whatever Saints are asking now, as they'll be asking a lot more by then.
Also, I'd much rather splash 20-30 on one player, rather than buy 4 Aspases, will make much more of a difference to the results next year

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We are supposed to have bid 20mil and Southampton want 30.
I think we will get him for £25 mil and I for one would be happy with that.
Its a hell of a lot of money but this is a player who can play right across the front and at the tip of a diamond.
Very flexible and suits our style of play.
Whats not to like?

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Ain`t worth that kind of money BUT I`m no expert so I don`t know. And NOBODY knows who will have a good WC except of course, you`re Nostradamus.

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13 May 2014 12:26:45
Highly unlikely but I would take a chance on Bony for us as a 3rd striker option. give us something different but can also play ball. most of all he knows where the net is.discuss.

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13 May 2014 12:29:19
He is a good striker, same in the lukaku mould, But would cost 20 mill+ for any club, I don't see us spending that amount for a 3rd choice striker.
What about Borini then?

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Suarez, Sturridge and Borini is perfect.

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13 May 2014 11:31:22
The Real AG, why would you be surprised if we signed Hector Moreno?

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Isn't he another left footed CB?

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Another Left footed Left sided CB.

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13 May 2014 10:42:02
Im having a bit of a scive this morning chaps so more food for thought

City pl 38 scored 102 conceded 37
Reds pl 38 scored 101 conceded 50


From those figures the difference in our apparently terrible defence is that we conceded only one goal more than City every three games! Add to that they only scored one more goal over the whole season.
Not bad compared to their squad eh?

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Stats are always interesting.

But if you watched the last half dozen games you could see the Reds were exhausted and hanging on for dear life (Spurs game being the one exception)

We rode our luck, and did remarkably well to take it to the last day of the season. But City won pulling away at the end.

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We conceded 13 more goals. That could mean 26 points dropped in a worst case scenario of being in a winning position to a drawing one 13 times. We need to tighten up at the back if we want to win it next year.

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13 May 2014 12:56:59
Nothing to do with City squad. Their Back 4 remained constant through out the summer. Demichelles isn't a world beater.

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Home_Fan you can't tell me that the statistics have nothing to do with the squad surely? Their squad is far bigger and more superior than ours. It surely is not that bad for the stats to be close esp with goals scored? Look at the attack they. If Suarez or Sturridge are out we bring in . Aspas! If Aguero or Dzeko don't play they can bring in Negrado or Jovetic. Then the supply behind that. The beast that is Toure and better defence. If we had a decent choice cover for right back Johnson would be sittin on the bench. hold on we could have played flanno there but he had to cover left back because Enrique was out! They should have walked it and we done well to stay in it as long as we did. I agree we faltered terribly towards the end and we most definitely need strengthening or the toll of Champs League and Prem will far too much. We dine pretty well with what we had

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13 May 2014 14:23:42
Mr.H

If you look at the goals we conceeded throughout, Thers hardly any striker who fooled us with this exepctional skills.
We conceeded with our silly and stuppid mistakes.
Mignolet, skertel, Agger, and Johnson being the culprit for more than 70% of our Goals.

Their squad is big, But I haven't seen Jovetic in action for more than 10 games whole seaosn. City don't play with 2 strikers.

Their biggest strength lies in Silva, Nasri, and Yaya.

If anyone of the above isn't playing, they are basically scrwed, No matter they have 15 players in the bench.

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I wouldn't say city's squad was that much better than ours, they only got 2 more points than us in the league.

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And played in the CL, their squads better.

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Much better I said mate.

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Home_fan kompany is world class, aguero is probably a better goal scorer than Suarez when fully fit (please note I said goal scorer before I get teared into) and fernandinho, dzeko, navas, zabaleta and to an extent negredo, kolarov and Garcia are all quality players! They are not screwed without the three mentioned.

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13 May 2014 10:28:46
It does make me chuckle to see people adamant that player X is defo a 20 mil player but not a 25 mil player. On what are you basing this? Not only have you got to take into account skill, talent, character etc but also circumstances of both clubs.
I imagine many of these people are the same people demanding we get business done early.

Using Lallana as an example. Firstly he looks a very talented player. Southampton don't have to sell. Not only that but we are in the Champions league and they know that not only do we need more quality players but we will have extra money to do so. If we drag our heels now several things could happen. The player may feel undervalued and choose to stay. Another club may come in and sign the player or we may wait and he has a great World Cup and is suddenly a 30 mil player.
I want value as much as everyone else but the first season that you get back in the Champs League is a tough one to deal with. You need more players of quality and other teams know that too, you've got more money and other teams know this. Imagine how deflated we would all feel to struggle in the group stages and find we are well short of the top four because we wouldn't budge on transfer fees. Any thoughts guys
Mr H.

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No point us spending money only to face FFP sanctions. We need to be in CL consistently for a few seasons before we can start spending sums like 20 or 30m on one player

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You can compare him to other players who can play in a similar position.
Konyoplanka's fee is around 15m whilst Sanchez from Barca seems to be valued at around £20m.
In my humble opinion once you consider these alternatives it doesn't make sense (especially with the risk of falling foul of FFP) to pay £25m for Adam Lallana just because he is English.

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13 May 2014 12:58:26
Kono should come in over the top of Lallana, Both are players we actually needed in our team.
lallana in the middle and Kono in the wings.
Sanchez is a good player, But I doubt we would consdier him

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13 May 2014 10:14:29
do you guys think lucas has a future at the club? explain why or why not.

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I would say so. We only have Gerrard and Lucas to play in the defensive midfield position, so it would be pointless to sell him. Plus, I'd give him a chance of adapting to a position slightly advanced in midfield. He may not have had the best of games when covering Henderson, but remember it took Gerrard a few games to settle into to his new position.

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With 4 competitions gerrard won't able to play each game. I think lucas will be a key player next season if he doesn't get injured

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I would say no lucas needs more in his locker then just his defence joe alan can do a good job in that role but joe can pass and move better then lucas he has been a top man for us though and would like him to stay

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Mascherano is looking to move on, he won't be very expensive and can cover that position.

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13 May 2014 13:00:10
If we sell Lucas for 10 mill and get Masch for te same, Then its a stellar, Masch does more than Lucas could actually do.

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Danny,

Lucas is one of the best passers at the club in terms of accuracy. It is his pace and positioning that let's him down. Other than that he is good defensively, however I would like to bring in a defensive midfielder with the pace to cover the fullbacks and defenders when needed.

For me, and most won't agree, but Jack Rodwell would be a good signing. He is young, he has pace, and can slot in at centre back when needed.

Red Rum

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If Lucas is happy to play in the games when Gerarrd is rested then I am more than happy to keep him.
He must know that with champions league football he will be getting 30-40 games minimum from the bench and starting.
I hope he stays.

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13 May 2014 14:09:50
JohnnyBarnes

And that's the sole reaosn, we are here, Emotions over reality.
CL? Lucas against Dortumand, Juventus and Real Madrid.
You hardly want our club to prosper, rather want some players to be happy. Then let's bring back Downing, he loves our club more than anyone. would be happy to second fiddle to Sterling.
I love Lucas, and admire his Loyalty, But he is certainly not the future.

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Redrum I no his pass stats are solid but they are safe passes and I agree his pace and mobility slow are atts down if he wants to stay I would keep him but as cover but we owe him a move if he wants it

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Harry, Home Fan, Grant Schapps:)
Where in my post did I say that Lucas was not good enough for Liverpool?
The point I am making is that the hardest person to shift from our side will be the captain.
So next season if we are in the champs league semi-final who are we likely to play Gerrard or Lucas bearing in mind that Lucas can really only play 1 position in our squad. Defensive Mid.
For the big big games he will be on the bench and as long as he is happy to accept that then great.
I have no problems with his ability and I think it is harsh to judge him on the performances at the end of the season due to his injury.
It takes Gerrard at least 3 games to get up to speed and we saw with Sturridge against Chelsea that he takes time to get match fit so why can't you give Lucas the time to fully recover before judging him?
1 thing that I do think is a problem for Lucas is that he can't play in any other position than DM whereas Allen, Hendo and Gerrard can all play in any of the central midfield positions that are available in my opinion.

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13 May 2014 09:49:04
Eds, do you know or heard anything about LFC wanting to bring Patricio Rodriguez to the club

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

13 May 2014 09:46:45
Not posted in a long time, been reading constantly,
First off great season for Liverpool, think everyone involved should be proud of the achievements of this season. Said in one of my last posts we would be fighting for the title, and what a fight it was.

Secondly I can't believe the amount of posts that have gone from ripping the team to pieces and making out every player we have isn't good enough have now changed to how good they are, the amount of fans on here who need to learn the meaning of the word support is un real and changing your post name doesn't mean we don't know who you are.

Thirdly after all the bashing over FSG and ayre over the transfers why are people still trying to second guess how they are doing their jobs and the prices offered or paid, they are probably very few people who actualy know the exact figures involved in the negotiations for players the figures in papers is a guess, or in the region of, at the end of the day I don't give a monkeys how much LFC end up paying for the players they want as long as it stays within the restraints that have been set out by FSG and we get the players BR wants and needs to carry on the growth we have shown this year.

I hope Lucas doesn't leave as I think he has shown what a professional he is, you never here him complaining or see him sulking he is a top class squad player who comes on when ever asked to do his job and never seems to give up I can't see us getting a better option my self.

We should all be happy and proud LFC fans, we have 5 England players in the squad for Brazil and really happy for Flanagan being on the stand by list, great to see the youth of our fine club showing what they can do at domestic and can't wIt to see them show it at international level as well, hope the other up and coming youth players can learn from their examples.

The future is very bright for LFC long may it continue can't wait to see who we bring in, I'm sure this seasons experience will stand us in good stead for next season.

Sorry for long post as I said been a while


Lifelongred

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Agree with everything you said!

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13 May 2014 10:09:56
Agreed with most, But Johnson in the squad is a shock more than surprise

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Think lucas will be very valuable next season. stevie g is playing that holding role but with him getting older its going to be hard for him to play every game 4 competitions of the season. so lucas will be a key player for Liverpool next season

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13 May 2014 09:46:13
I think that mascherano may be a good signing as he can play both at cb and midfield but the problem will be his age.Lallana will be a good signing but I fear because of past english signing like downing and carroll.we need a better leftback who defend strongly and create and score goals.we need a pacy goalscoring winger like shaqiri or tello.finally, we need a cover for sas and I think borini is good enough for that.we need to take suso back and send back moses and sell reina, coates, aspas .And send luis alberto on loan.

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Do people forget the way Masch behaved when he left the club? I wouldn't have him back.

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Think they'll try to loan illori to a club in the premier league, see how he adapts to the physicality of the league

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I think he would be a terrible signing if all things are considered.

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Same. Possitionally poor aswell hense why barca stuck him at centre back. And as u say had a little paddy and disrespected the club to force his move so no thanks.

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Yes Mascherano engineered a move away, probably regrets the way he went, but he is still a top top player IMO, this guy has huge experience and the tenacity of Suarez. We would improve immensely from a defensive point of view with him in our midfield. The other point is that having played in central defence for Barca he is the ideal guy to take on the Gerrard role for us where he can slip back into defence from midfield giving Gerrard greater influence on the attacking side of our game.
I say let the past stay there and bring him in to finish his career at Anfield.

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Would be a bad move by Brendan that.

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13 May 2014 12:32:05
Mascherano is still a very good DM. Apart from Matic and Fernandinho, I don't see any good DM in the league.

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I hear what you guys are saying but if he turns down Napoli in favour for us all should be forgiven.
We need to remember we had Woy as manager, the worst owners imaginable and we were almost broke.
All things considered I don't think many players would choose to stay under those circumstances.
He went to Barca, a lot of players go when Barca or Madrid come calling.
With utd sniffing around I think it would be a wise acquisition personally.
Champions league quality player that appears to want to join our club. No brainer for me.

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13 May 2014 13:01:43
Masch on any day is better than Lucas, Masch could start and also be a good cover.
I don't see Lucas starting in future, If we have a fully fit squad.

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Mascherano is a monster of a player! Hard tackler never say die and has pace. Can cover for defence as well.

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If he says 10 hail Mary's and grovels at Rodgers feet then why not:)
Cant see him doing that though so no.
Never go back.

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13 May 2014 14:12:25
Jonnybarnes.

Would you like Alonso to come back? Again Engineerd a move, When real came calling.
Whats Matic doing at chelsea, They sold him and bought back, Argubly the Best DM in the League.

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Mascherano went on strike, alonso was forced out by rafa.

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13 May 2014 15:03:27
Alonso wanted to go and went. he was loyal and he was forced out the seaosn prior to juventus.
He proved and became an important memeber. Had a rift with Rafa, he wouldn't have moved to any other club, If not real.

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Mascherano denies doing that, we don't know the full story

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Mascherano was unprofessional. There is nothing worse than refusing to play for your employer.

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Harry/Home fan. It was a joke fella.
I don't think we should go back in for him though simply because in my opinion you should never go back. Matic is slightly different because he did not get into the Chelsea's first team when he was their originally ( I think he made about 3 starts).
And before you ask, no I would not have Alonso back either. Great player for us but he wanted to leave.

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13 May 2014 09:38:13
Now that the end of the season has sunk in. Things can be looked at realistically. If we had been offered the season we've just had in august we'd have all taken it with open arms.We were absolutely brilliant, a pleasure to watch. We all know who has stood out and had praise, but for me its those who haven't had much that stand out. I won't claim ti know everything about footy but thos tine last your I thought flanno was useless. The lad has been immense. I see a lot of people calling for Johnson to be sold. I agre he hasn't beem at his best, but I can't see us managing to sell him. i'm thoroughly looking forward to seeing who BR brings in. Roll on the summer because I grel the world cup may be a boring one (though I really hope to be proved wrong)

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13 May 2014 09:14:23
I don't understand the negativity around the Lallana transfer. If we were to sign him, and that's a big if, I'd be over the moon. If games like Chelsea have taught us anything, its that with Henderson not playing, we become extremely stagnant in midfield, as Lucas does not have the same energy and creativity needed to cut open deep defences.

To all the people saying he's not worth the money, give me an alternative player who is just as good that can play central midfield, the wing/flanks and behind the striker. If there's one thing that Rodgers loves, it's versatility. Not to mention Lallana was selected in PL team of the year, beating players like Silva, Mata, Ozil, Navas. Etc. And to people saying Konoplyanka is a better alternative, they play in different positions! I fully believe that IF we sign Lallana, we will still go after a wide forward, and if we dont, I wouldn't be too downhearted, having Borini return and youth players coming up. Come on guys, we've just come 2nd! Let's have a bit more positivity and faith in Rodgers.

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I have watched Lallana a lot over this season along with Southampton because of the football they play and I think him, Rodriguez and Shaw are all fantastic players. Lallana himself reminds me of Silva in his style but a little more direct whereas Silva has the advantage in the passing department. Anyone asking where do we play Coutinho, what about Suso? Look at City with Silva Nasri Toure(sometimes) Navas Jovetic all in the attacking roles you need more than one player who can play the killer ball

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You had me at hello.

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Lallana would be perfect for us.

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Bang on mate,

Lfc has restrictions on outlay, like any business, FSG are (for a layman like myself) looking like responsible owners and it's a sign of the strong support that we are so passionate about players both potential and current that so much emotion is shown in the posts on here.

We have the manager of the year, player of the year, outstanding potential in the youth, champions league back, are bidding for the right sort of players after loosing the league on the last match of the season, Expansion plans for Anfield and more experience in the team. Accept the present and be thankful.

"Leave behind the passive dreaming of a rose-tinted future. The energy of happiness exists in living today with roots sunk firmly in reality's soil."

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I agree Alex. I'd be delighted if we signed Lallana, Rodriguez and Shaw! But obviously that's not going to happen. Lallana would be a great signing. I'd be impressed if we were able to get a better signing than him all summer.

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The only thing that is concerning is that he is Southampton's most substituted player this season, he's actually been brought off 50% of the games he's started for them.
This would suggest he drifts out of games and can't influence games for 90mins and beyond.
Having said that I think we have the same issue with Coutinho at the moment so in that sense having both will create healthy competition and hopefully improve them.

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Yes and jovetic, milner and navas spend a while on the bench, a fate I don't want to see for any of our players or indeed any footballer that talented. I still believe in alberto and teixeira, unlike most it seems.

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If they price him out of a move to us we still have a wonderful talent in Suso, similar player albeit needs more experience which we could possibly give him next year

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13 May 2014 09:03:14
With England Squad Announced, I am bit suprised. Steven Gerrard the only DM in the squad?, Barry had a good seaosn and should have been selected overLlamaprd, who hasn't played.

Johnson's career is yet again saved by LIVERPOOL FC. Apart from Roy only a blind man would pick him and play him in the geratest tournament.

Baines is a good player and so Shaw, But their lack of experience in the international stage would be a huge risk. Cole should have been in the plane.

Y is Phil Johnes in the squad?

Provisional players looks another joke, Caroll and cleverly?

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Lampard over Barry simply stinks of politics. Lampard has hardly played this year, while Barry (as much as I hate to say it), was on eof the most consistent midfielders in the premier league this season. Extremely questionable decision imo.

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To be fair Johnson has always played well for England.

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13 May 2014 10:12:14
Hyach

TBF, England have never won anything major in over a decade.

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Lampards a goal scorer, Barry not, I think he's gone for the attacking qualities where midfield is concerned

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13 May 2014 14:13:50
Prestige

I agree, thers hardly anyone better than Lampard who has scored more goals being a CM. But England squad has only one converted DM in Gerrard.

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Am I blind or did Glenn J

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Have I been dreaming this season then?
I am sure Glenn Johnson played the majority of games for Liverpool this season.
If he is as bad as some people make out then we surely would not have finished where we did.
Every player has his faults and that is why near faultless players are worth the money they are.
What I can't accept is the constant slagging off of our players.
An example was yesterday when people were actually posting "well done to everyone at Liverpool for a great season. except Glen Johnson"
How bad is that?
I am no great Glenn Johnson fan, I can see his faults just like everyone else, he is good going forward but can be prone to the odd lapse in concentration etc etc, but he played his part just like all the other members of the squad in us finishing runners up in the league.
Its only been 3 days since the end of the season and yet the slagging off of our own players is back already.
Guaranga.

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I was up in arms as to why lampard was in ahead of barry, the perfect backup for gerrard.

Injuries to walcott, rodriguez and walker really ticked me off, they would have made the team much better. The fact johnson and smalling are ahead of flanagan and stones really irritated me too, as did terry's refusal to come out of retirement.

Still, it could be worse, carroll and cleverley could be starting ;)

I also tip kane, berahino, maybe even wickham to make the squad over the next few years.

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Home_Fan
I know what you mean, I presume he'll probably shift Jones in there if needed.
That's if he's fit of course lol
People hating on Johnson, he played nearly the whole season in that position and we finished second. Isn't as bad as made out just needs to improve his game like other defenders we have IMO. Getting in some decent competition for his position would help a lot.

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13 May 2014 17:03:39
Johnson did play the whole season, So did the Goals conceded reached up to 50.
If any other Mid table club, Johnson would never get into England.

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So it's all Glenn's fault then is it?
Was he the third shooter on the grassy knoll as well then?
Phone Hacking down to our right back?
You win as a team and lose as a team.
Any criticism for the amount of goals conceded this year should be collective and not individual.

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Laughing at "gauranga" ha ha.
I meant Suso!

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13 May 2014 08:56:57
Ed02, Sorry for this question on Liverpool Page.
Chelsea needs a LB, with cole retiring and Shaw being close to UTD, whom are they looking at.
I am sure, Jose won't play Azp on the Left side for another season.

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{Ed002's Note - Why not read the posts on the Chelsea page rather than waste my time?}

He only retired from international

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13 May 2014 08:56:01
Ed, that Espanyol centreback. Is it Raul Rodriguez or Hector Moreno? I only see these two as options.

Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - Why not read the posts or use the search function.}

Hector Moreno. I would be surprised if we end up signing him though.

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13 May 2014 08:52:46
Didn't Liverpool offer ATLEAST 30 mil or Sth like that for costa and the club were supposed to have said 40 mill

Anyone have an idea how Chelsea can agree 32 so easy?

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I'm sure it was more lik 23

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No, it was closer to £20 million.

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13 May 2014 08:16:34
According to the Echo, S'ton are holding out for £25m. I would walk away myself, there's plenty more like him we can probably get cheaper, Kono being one of them.

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13 May 2014 08:36:12
Dont worry, We won't pay that sum. A max of 20 mill (which won't be straight forward), If there is something FSG have learned over the years, is transfer fees.

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If they ask for 25.i think interest in konoplyanka may return

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25 million a bit too much imo for Lallana. 18-20 million pounds more like it.

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13 May 2014 09:40:50
But are we not in the market for a CM and A LW?

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I think 20m for adam should be the maximum, if they insist on getting 25m i'd rather us buy konoplyanka for 13-15m or Pastore for 17-18m.

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Given how we have negotiated over the last 4 windows, there is next to no chance of us spending over the top for any player IMO.

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13 May 2014 10:13:37
Hyach

Pastore for 17-18 mill?. Dude PSG broke the transfer record to get him at around 35 mill.

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Price doesn't reflect performance harry, how much would you pay for milner, fellaini or torres I wonder?

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Kono 15 and Lallana 25 is 40 million well spent completely different players like comparing Coutinho with Sterling

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13 May 2014 08:08:17
Hi eds!

Any latest news on Lallana?thanks

Aneesh

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{Ed002's Note - Read the posts please.}

13 May 2014 08:06:57
Hey eds
Are we any closer to signing Lallana and who's coming in for our defence cause obviously hasn't been good at all this season apart form Flanagan who's been crazily good

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{Ed002's Note - You think Liverpool somehow edged closer overnight? You should read the posts.}

13 May 2014 07:43:37
Sebastian Coates makes the provisional Uruguay World Cup squad .

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13 May 2014 08:09:01
Congraatz to him.

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Yup wish him well.

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Hope he has a good tournament so we can get a god price for him

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13 May 2014 07:34:20
Hi Eds

One of the Eds said we had made an enquiry about a center back. Does he play in Germany/Portugal?

Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - Espanyol in Spain.}

Ed do you know if it is the mexican Moreno?

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{Ed002's Note - Yes.}

13 May 2014 03:41:50
Hello Eds - Is there anything to the reports that Lucas wants to leave for lack of playing time?

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{Ed002's Note - No idea.}

His Instagram post certainly seemed to suggest he might be leaving.

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12 May 2014 23:34:06
Alright Ed's. New to this.
i just like to know is it true that we have offered a 15 or 16million bid for lallana and they are going to reject it? because I heard southampton are holding out for 20million. any Truth in this?.
also chelsea have signed Costa now so this is a big disappointment for every football club in England I think to be honest if they ad a striker this year they would have won the league my opinion because of their stupid playing style.
do you see us signing any defenders any time soon and can you give us fellow Reds any idea who they could be because I believe we need a defence next season for this guy or they going to beat us again! and to be honest I hate chelsea because the way they play and with him there next season and most people will say the same they most probs will win it.?
First time posting ED's be great if I can get a reply!
THANKS YNWA

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{Ed002's Note - I have no intention of discussing money at all. Liverpool has an interest in buying a left back and have enquired after a centre back.}

12 May 2014 22:48:27
Eds, it appears that we are weak defensively, but I believe that it's perhaps due to the the coaching and instruction received rather than the quality of the playing staff. Having said that, I would like to see some defensive signings. We really do need a CB who can organise and command the back line. Is there anyone that fits that billing on our radar?

Also, I would love for us to make a move for Ivan Rakitic. He could give us that industry and drive in midfield. He's a player that makes things happen. Any interest in him? Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - Try the search function please.}

12 May 2014 22:31:00
Hey eds 2 questions

1, please tell me the mascherano rumour is a no go! Don't get me wrong he was great for us. But now iI can't see him fitting

2, how did young yesil (I think that's his name) get on? I know he came to us and start racking up goals but if I'm honest I stopped paying attention. Did he impress this year and could he be a back up for the next season?

One more thing, Thanks! It's been a great year for lfc and we have gone above and beyond wats expected! Then eds you have been there the whole way with rumours and facts so well done it was a great season from you guys too!

LFC PADDY

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{Ed002's Note - Try the search function please.}

Yesil tore/ruptured his ACL twice. Personally not sure he'll ever be back.

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12 May 2014 22:27:41
How do eds I no the window isn't yet open but already these lallana rumours are making me think of salah allb over again ist just so annoying Liverpool no what soton want for him so why not just pay it and get a young england international and 1 hell of a player for a good price at 25m if that's what's being asked in your honest opinion do you believe we will pay the price or will we let this 1 slip away aswel thanks for all the good work lads

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12 May 2014 22:18:51
Hey eds.

If a club sign a player before he can be registrated, is there a rule that the club have to announce the transfer in public or do the club have to wait to make the official announcement until he is registrated?

Hope you can help me.

Thanks in advance.

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{Ed003's Note - had to read that twice to try and make sense of it and still can't - players being signed will be officially announced when the window opens.}

Sorry about that.

For an example:

IF Liverpool were to sign Lallana (agree fee with Southampton, agree with Lallana etc), before the WC, would Liverpool go out and make to official statement that they have signed him, or will they have to wait to publish the agreement of the transfer until the transfer window opens (1. July)?

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12 May 2014 18:46:45
Ed001, do you believe that the Lallana deal will go through before the world cup? The press people are saying he really wants the move.

Cheers

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{Ed001's Note - impossible q to answer.}

12 May 2014 23:58:03
Congratulations to Rodgers on a well-deserved win of the LMA Manager of the Year award. Very happy for him.

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12 May 2014 22:58:33
I was wondering how big an influence our style of play have in attracting players. Sure money talks, but from my point, even the "low income earners' are being paid handsomely.

Do you think we can compete with a few other unnamed clubs in attracting the "expensive signings" at lower amounts, due to our style, or am I being a romantic?

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{Ed007's Note - I suppose you being 'a romantic' is one way of putting it. }

Haha good reply Ed

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