Liverpool Banter Archive February 14 2016

 

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14 Feb 2016 23:04:26
A great victory today, we played with confidence and ripped Villa to shreds. We finally got to see the trio of Sturridge, Firmino and Coutinho and they played with purpose, scintillating pace and made decisive decisions which lead to our goals. Overall it was a great performance. Emre and Hendo dominated the midfield. Emre was brilliant at braking up the play and playing good short passes to the two Brazilians. Milner put in a decent shift. The defence were rarely troubled and dealt with any attacks with ease. I was impressed with Moreno and Clyne as their final ball was much better than usual. The movement of Sturridge was a huge advantage, he stretched the pitch and linked up well with midfield. I really hope for him that he stays fit because when he plays he is fantastic and will easily get you goals. Origi made an instant impact with another clinical finish. Kevin Stewart was very tidy in possession. I thought Benteke really improved the Villa defence and made them look more comapact and solid.

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14 Feb 2016 21:52:51
I think we saw some real potential today. Everyone will say it was only Villa, but Villa got a point at Anfield, and to be honest, we haven' t exactly been beating up on teams in the bottom half of the table. I am just happy we are no longer in that bottom half. If Klopp can keep Coutinho/ Firmino/ Sturridge healthy I think we might have a go at Europa. City confidence down too and they have champions league so cup final might be a good shout as well.

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14 Feb 2016 22:39:05
I think we actually beat them at anfield 3-2 mate, but to be fair we did find it very tough so it is a real improvement!


14 Feb 2016 22:45:38
villa lost 3-2 at anfield coop.


14 Feb 2016 22:47:35
We beat them 3-2 at anfield.


14 Feb 2016 22:34:29
Villa didn't get a point at Anfield. They lost 3-2 with a Studge double. That said, it was indeed Villa and no decent team will be that aweful in every dept of the game. They wouldn't even make it in a Sunday League playing that way. However, I'm happy we won, scored goals and created chances with our fit players getting goals and assists which bodes well for our biggest game this season, the LC final.


15 Feb 2016 01:57:43
I stand corrected. Apologies. I did watch the game but getting old I suppose. Point still stands though. We do struggle with teams we shouldn't.


14 Feb 2016 21:17:28
Eds fellow reds . youve got to see penalty by messi / Suarez for Barcelona . question is . is it legal . but quality.

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14 Feb 2016 21:38:23
If the ball goes forward before Suarez hits it, it's legal.

Cryuff/ Jesper Olsen originated it.


14 Feb 2016 22:25:46
I remember Pires and Henry trying to copy it - with Pires making a terrible touch and the ref awarding a free kick to the other team. Worth a look on youtube. If you do it, you have to do it right :D.


14 Feb 2016 22:28:20
Pires/ henry haha.


14 Feb 2016 22:34:59
It should be.


14 Feb 2016 23:32:19
Best players in the world on display. I'd tell anyone to visit the nu camp and watch that front 3 live whilst they're still together. It's really amazing. Mind blowing football.


14 Feb 2016 21:08:34
would love to hear your thoughts on todays game ed1. do you think sturridge and countinho will start on Thursday or will he ease them back in gently? spot on about micah Richards btw ed. awful footballer. also looking at villa today I would not be surprised to see them suffer back to back relegations.

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{Ed001's Note - not just Richards that is awful, Lescott is terrible too, still he can tweet pics of his flash cars, so he is obviously not bothered.

I thought it was an excellent performance by us, that tore them to shreds and then they capitulated. It was the movement and interplay of Sturridge, Coutinho and Firmino that did for them. They simply couldn't cope and they lost confidence, which allowed us to just destroy them. If they had managed to keep us at bay and gain confidence, then it might have been totally different. Once a goal went in, it was only a matter of how many we would get as they let their heads drop.

It just shows what a difference quality makes. The movement was excellent, which gave options for the pass. Sturridge is so good he provides the opposition with something to fear, which creates opportunities for others, as well as being able to get some for himself. Those three up front, with Origi to come in as well, can cause even the best teams problems, Villa are far from the best, so they had little chance.

The pressing was better as well, which helped a lot, as players lacking in confidence often look to have an extra touch, which means a good press can really hammer them. Today we had a good press, so they suffered badly. With them being pressed off the ball and our movement and passing gelling well, the nice early goal just killed them. You could see they just knew they were in trouble and it was then up to us to take advantage, which we did. Nice to see the goal difference back in the positive as well!}

14 Feb 2016 22:21:48
I feel sorry for Garde to a degree, and for Villa fans, they didn't do too badly for the opening minutes of the game and in the second half, but as you say they couldn't keep us at bay and we did really well. Good to see Origi continue his form as well, I really like the lad and he seems to be quite a hard worker and someone who wants to improve and to do well. Can's goal was quality too, great shot.


15 Feb 2016 00:06:20
I thought it very instructive that Origi came on before Benteke too. Shows the pecking order very clearly.


14 Feb 2016 21:42:18
Ed001, what do you make of this Sturridge wanting to leave business that came out earlier in the week? How do he and Klopp get along?


{Ed001's Note - it is just nonsense stories.}

14 Feb 2016 21:56:56
Don't forget Ings to come back too Ed.

Sturridge, Ings, Firmino, Origi, Ibe.


{Ed001's Note - fingers crossed he comes back like he was playing just before he got injured, because he looked really good just then.}

14 Feb 2016 22:00:52
thanks for the reply ed. I feel sorry for the villa fans. I bet remi garde wished he had stayed in france. also how come the media let's tim Sherwood off the hook for the part he played in the mess villa find themselves in? poor signings, poor tatics etc. looking forward to Thursday ed, its nice to take to the field with guile and goals.


{Ed001's Note - Sherwood is one of their mates, they never get on the back of Roberto Martinez either.}

14 Feb 2016 22:41:17
I would only caution that it was vs Villa who are going down and will do a Leeds at this point. That said, I agree with you Ed. The quality we showed today just showed what might have been this season with Klopp in charge from the word go. It was breathless atimes with the movement, the passing and our ability to know when to press and when to drop. The fact that Kolo scored showed how well we played. Great confidence builder for the LC final and if our players can stay fit till season's end, we may just nick 5th.


{Ed001's Note - that is why it was 6, but I do think we would have won that anyway playing like that, even if they weren't in a mess. In fact they have been better lately, Garde has improved them.}

15 Feb 2016 03:59:52
Bang on Ed001.

If you look at two of the first three goals, creative runs by Sturridge and Firmino create space for the goal itself.

On the first goal, Firmino's presence and movement in the box pulls one of the Villa defenders off their line, creating space between the remaining defenders for Sturridge to exploit with his header.

On the third goal, after some great pressing from Firmino and Can, Firmino plays a great pass over to Can and Sturridge's darting run into the box pulls a Villa defender with him deeper, giving Can the space to blast an great strike just inside the far post.

No one puts that on the highlights, but the movement and creativity of Sturridge, Firmino, and Coutinho makes a massive difference.


{Ed001's Note - it is difficult to see those things to be fair, most people are so busy watching the ball they miss everything else. That is why commentators are there, they should be pointing these kind of things out, instead of their inane and pointless chatter which mostly consists of them telling you who has the ball, in large part getting that wrong as well.}

14 Feb 2016 20:10:55
Ed001, what's the clubs or klopps opinion on Stewart? Practically unheard of a few months ago on this site, now he looks the most ready for first team football, defientely got the physical abilities and looks like he can cope as well as any with the mental aspect. Do you see him destined to be solid central midfielder or see him going to great heights? I noticed quite a brilliant pass to Clyne late on from him.

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{Ed001's Note - he is very well liked mate, he has pushed himself to the forefront of the kids.}

14 Feb 2016 20:26:23
Stewart not really a kid, 23/ 24 I think, thought he was best of bunch at Exeter away and done well v West Ham.


14 Feb 2016 20:36:33
I think Stewart is going to be quality . I have seen him a few times now and he looks better each game . His positional awareness is what's needed to play that position but he is always looking for the ball and isn't short on confidence and I like that . I know when he came on the game had been over for some time but he never looked out of place . Now I'm looking forward to ojo getting a shot . Cheers
Jamesy.


14 Feb 2016 20:54:13
18and5. he's 22, he isn't 23 until September.


14 Feb 2016 20:58:38
Why was Stewart let go by Spurs. The way they are nurturing young players I'm surprised they let him go. Was it his choice or was he not deemed good enough.


{Ed001's Note - they were looking at other players and Inglethorpe convinced him to join us.}

14 Feb 2016 21:21:13
He's older than emre can and the same age as coutinho and hendo and allen (ish) he is in that kind of quality but won't improve much further.


{Ed001's Note - that's not necessarily true. In fact it is unlikely to be true as experience will almost certainly lead to major improvements. Players tend to make the most gains when they first start getting regular first team football, it is not just coaching or age related, it is a lot to do with the experience. That is why late developers can happen often, it is simply that they are learning by playing, and just never got the opportunity to get that experience sooner.}

14 Feb 2016 21:22:44
Cheers ed001. Hope they end up regretting it.


{Ed001's Note - I think they did anyway, at least up until Dier worked out at defensive mid.}

14 Feb 2016 22:08:35
Cheers Dan, wasn't sure but did think he was few years older than other "kids"


14 Feb 2016 22:19:07
Henderson is older, he's 25 isn't he? Certainly not 22,3,4.


14 Feb 2016 22:44:37
Stewart is just quality. Like Lallana, he is two footed. Unlike Lallana, he can tackle and shoot. The more games, he will defo be a regular player in the senior squad even if not a starter.


14 Feb 2016 23:41:03
I think Coquelin at arsenal is a reasonable benchmark to look towards in regards to Stewart. Both served there time in lower league football and would be regarded as 'late' developers as well. The role required is more a mental/ tactical attribute based, which i would say to most comes with time, forget the age, what he offers is useful and clearly he has the desire to make it. let's wait and see, but fingers crossed he can keep developing. Too many players get wrote off without a run a la flanagan before 2013/ 2014, almost makes you wonder why some managers are not inclined to give someone a good run, you never know until the player is put into the situation just how his temperament and attributes will play out.


15 Feb 2016 00:09:01
I think he's usurped Lucas as DM or could do at any rate. Has excellent positional sense and is more mobile than lucas. That said I hope Lucas stays as I think he could be a good centre back after his West Ham showing.


15 Feb 2016 00:24:36
He was let go by Spurs and because Inglethorpe knew all about him he signed him up, as a full back. Micheal Beale moved him to no6 when Jordan Williams and Jordan Rossiter went up to Melwood, because he's 2 footed athletic and started is youth career as a centre back. Micheal Beale and Alex Inglethorp deserve the credit for the lads development from Spurs full back reject to a promising 2 footed central defensive midfielder. I know everyone says it but he has been a Liverpool fan all his life.


15 Feb 2016 00:37:27
Did you hear klopps comment when listing the best things from the match 'I'm happy to be part of Kevin Stewart's third game for us' 😂😂.


15 Feb 2016 03:19:51
Stewart is 22, I've just checked the LFC website. He was born in 1993.


14 Feb 2016 19:38:08
Best minutes per goal ratio of Liverpool Strikers since start of Premier League

Sturridge 38 goals 117.58 mins

Torres 65 goals 121.32 mins

Suarez 69 goals 138.80 mins

Owen 118 goals 142.58 mins

Say whatever you like about Sturridge but his record when he plays speaks for itself.

Where would Spurs be if Harry Kane had only played the same number of games this season as Studge.

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14 Feb 2016 20:12:39
Spurs would actually be ok. Before today every goal he had scored had come in a win bigger than 1 goal apart from 1 which was in a draw. Therefor his goals had only amassed 1 point. He also scored an own goal which cost them to draw a match meaning he lost them 2 points. Overall that is -1 point he had got them, albeit today's goal helped them to a 2-1 win making it +2.


14 Feb 2016 20:13:56
Keep sturridge fit for rest of season and we will finish too five.


14 Feb 2016 20:45:28
JStam7 that's a bold statement to make saying they wouldn't miss him . Why are your side trying to sign him then I don't think JOSE MOANio likes him for you next season?

BALE on the menu isn't he? or is it the other diver!


14 Feb 2016 22:23:56
In the words of Paul Merson (awful pundit) "Top, top, top, top, top, top, top, top, top player. "


14 Feb 2016 22:48:02
Spurs would struggle without Kane just as we have struggled without Studge, Ings, and Origi bedding in. Saying the contrary, is just dishonest and wrong.


14 Feb 2016 19:35:19
If I had to choose a new world class striker or DS I would defo pick new just cause of DS injuries but why can't we keep him knowing if he is fit will be great and if injured no problem cause we have someone else, the main problem this year Benteke don't fit into our style and we need him in team every game. I hope we can keep him alongside a worldie - hopefully Suarez! !

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14 Feb 2016 18:56:12
That was just a pleasure to watch. Thnx lads!

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14 Feb 2016 18:55:46
Can't believe that the only game where I miss this season turn out to be 1 of the game of the season. Went out to celebrate Valentine's day with girlfriend and this is the only time gf > liverpool normally I would choose liverpool > gf. Looks like along I had been jinxing Liverpool. Maybe I should not watch from now on!

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14 Feb 2016 19:02:33
Sounds like a good idea mate take her out every weekend . we will keep you informed on the footie side.


14 Feb 2016 18:30:52
Hi eds I was just wondering I was on the live chat today and thought it was such a good idea. What about having a live chat for a certain period or time of the day? Say for like two hours per day so we can have open and intelligent football discussions. Whilst obviously filtering out the imbeciles and trolls aside I think it would be a good idea.

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{Ed001's Note - it is too costly for us to run for long periods and too much effort to look after. It is something I don't like personally and don't want to lose two hours a day having to sit and watch it to clear out trolls. It is there for matches because people like it, but we simply couldn't afford to run it all the time.}

14 Feb 2016 19:20:24
Ok ed no worries mate thought it was worth an ask. Ye don't ask ye don't get right lol.


{Ed001's Note - no worries mate, sorry we can't help at the moment. Maybe it will be possible in the future, but right now it is not.}

14 Feb 2016 19:45:18
With you saying afford btw do you mean financially or emotionally? Ed because if you had like a donation button for the site to help fund things I wouldn't mind tossing a couple of quid the sites way. And I'm sure other regular posters wouldn't mind either.


{Ed001's Note - we have had donation buttons before, if just feels like begging to be honest. Though, to be honest, the amount it costs in server charges it wouldn't make a real difference unless people were donating an amount I would not feel comfortable accepting, if that makes sense? We are having to move over to new servers now, as the current ones can't cope. Hopefully the live feeds on profiles will be up and running soon, so you can see the posts as they come in, without needing to refresh the page continually.}

14 Feb 2016 20:17:56
Well I see what your saying mate but T the same time realistically you and the other eds are providing a service so why not? I know what your saying regarding the charges however if even the donations added up to like 60quid a month or something it's better than nothing surely? because I for one love this site and I understand the eds or whoever pays aren't made of money. I guess my point is I don't mind donating if it means helping the site evolve and also keeps it up and running.


14 Feb 2016 20:36:14
Advertisers pay for the site mate, I would like to keep it that way, as I think they should be free for all to use.


14 Feb 2016 16:47:10
Jurgen Klopp: "This is not a day for us to sing songs - that's partly out of respect for Aston Villa, a great club having a difficult time. "

Now that deserves absolute Respect.

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14 Feb 2016 18:57:44
Totally class act from Klopp. Lucky to have such a guy as manager.


{Ed002's Note - Try not to be so wet.}

14 Feb 2016 19:17:27
Lol Ed002 😄.


14 Feb 2016 20:22:42
Ed, it's Valentine's day. a day for lovers!


14 Feb 2016 23:03:05
Regardless of the media rags and BR running his mouth, all trying to undermine JK, I am chuffed he's our manager and the dignity, honor and respect he shows when representing our club in public is very refreshing.


14 Feb 2016 17:59:30
So the club are proposing that if you are say 15 minutes late getting into Anfield they can give "your" seat to somebody else! What the **** is that about, you buy "your" seat, if you are late for any of the many possible reasons or you don't use it that should be the end of it.
Tell you what while my car is parked up do they want to offer anyone it to do a bit of shopping or to drop the kids of at ballet class or judo?

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14 Feb 2016 18:28:16
Is this on the official site?


14 Feb 2016 19:46:02
Have to say I very much disagree with that if true. Can you imagine how angry you would be if you were running late, got to the game, got turned away with what you consider a valid ticket, and someone in your seat sees a game like today (i know we were away today)? I can't imagine many other ticketed events doing this (although I could be wrong)


14 Feb 2016 19:53:48
Echo I think Ron, defo right though.


14 Feb 2016 21:25:33
I think Kids, locals given your seat free on the understanding they must give it up if and when you turn up. what's the problem with that?


{Ed001's Note - so they then have to boot someone out? Not workable on H&S grounds, as you would have all these extra people milling around potentially.}

14 Feb 2016 22:26:36
I agree with Ed001, and it did cross my mind that if they give your seat up after 15 minutes, that means there will be lots of people waiting in and around the stadium 15 minutes after kickoff, which doesn't seem overly safe. Also, the number of people waiting to get in after 15 minutes will FAR outweigh the number who turn up more than 15 minutes late, so there will be lots of disappointed people milling around the stadium.


14 Feb 2016 17:34:39
With sturridge and coutinho returning i think the performance and work of firmino will be overlooked and i just thought i would mention him.

The thing i love about firmino is his movement, he really stetches play, he creates space for the likes of coutinho and sturridge, his work rate is excellent and he often creates chances from closing down the opposition. His final ball is improving and i am really excited about seeing him next season. Its a testament to him that he has been involved in more goals than any other player in the league in 2016. A really unselfish player. Hope everyone stays fit and we see more performances like this one.

Well done today redmen!

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14 Feb 2016 18:42:51
Firmino will be even better next season. Sturridge up top, Coutinho on the left, Firmino behind Sturridge and a pacy winger should be our attacking line up next season. All 3 players behind Sturridge should be capable of scoring goals and creating chances, and we are good to go.


14 Feb 2016 20:39:47
And to think the vocal minority (I hope not majority) spent the first half of the season calling him out. Stating constantly that he simply wasn't good enough.

I think he'll be a great player for us. His immense work rate will suit Klopps preferred style, he's technically great and has a magic spark.


14 Feb 2016 21:00:00
Agree with you both, the amount of players that have taken time to settle, ozil, mahrez even suarez. You have to be patient with new signings.


14 Feb 2016 17:25:33
Nice to see us score six today and keep a clean sheet and who cares who it was against, it's a win and 3pts! Well done Kolo on your first goal for the club too! Great to see the Sturridge dance again, first of many I hope.

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14 Feb 2016 18:16:35
There are no easy games in the premier league.
Make no mistake, this was a brilliant performance.


14 Feb 2016 18:18:45
well said keith, also we scored from a corner!


14 Feb 2016 19:02:24
Oh but there are Ron.


14 Feb 2016 19:19:20
Well I didn't include Man Utd out of sympathy after yesterday but that really was an easy game for Sunderland 😜.


14 Feb 2016 17:17:47
As predicted Sturridge scores and everyone does an about turn and loves him. Can see why eds02 knocks us for the type of fans we are.

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14 Feb 2016 18:01:59
it's crazy how fickle some fans on this page are or maybe just short memories?


14 Feb 2016 18:03:43
Everyone does a u-turn?

Myself and plenty of other fans have always stood by him. The fickle fans on here are known and are not the majority.


14 Feb 2016 18:05:28
Well i will stick my hand up and say he has along way to go before I would want him here next season. If were here in june with him having played most matches or at least been available for them ill say I was wrong. I expect him to get injured again and despite his brilliance not be able to help the club like we all want.


14 Feb 2016 18:07:36
Nobody doubts DS's quality but it is his injury record and the fact the he is out more than he is available. If he stayed fit he is in the top 5 out and out strikers in the world.


14 Feb 2016 18:20:35
Until he makes a wrong pass to someone and everyone will be shouting to sell him. Fickle fans!


14 Feb 2016 17:17:18
Hi Eds,

Any news on if Lucas and Lallana were out the squad due to injuries or tactical reasons?

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{Ed001's Note - injuries, Lucas is more precautionary.}

14 Feb 2016 18:21:12
Cheers Ed.


14 Feb 2016 17:12:08
Origi is going to be a top notch forward.

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14 Feb 2016 19:47:22
World class if you believe Rogers.


14 Feb 2016 16:58:39
One little pint I want to bring up about Sturridge and benteke. For his goal, you can almost call him lazy, he's not made a run, he's just standing off the shoulder of the CB. But that is clever, Suarez did it when we were in possession too. He had to right not nod in a header against two centre backs, but as soon as that ball is about to be swing in, he comes alive, steps back away from the defender and attacks the ball, which was sublime from coutinho. Benteke needs to take note. He was in the right place, he'd gained that two yards he needs to score, and he attacked the ball when it was delivered. That nonchalant body language can be deadly if the defence falls asleep. The thing is, it's only when we are in a dangerous position not all game long. It's a clever move by Sturridge, and he's in the right area, and finishes it. So glad to have him origi and coutinho back!

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14 Feb 2016 18:25:17
The reason he scored is because villas defenders don't do their job. not slating sturridge BTW but it wasn't overly clever.


14 Feb 2016 18:43:39
You'd have to suggest on current form though, that benteke wouldn't have scored that, being in the same positions, as he wouldn't have peeled off and probably would be either further out, or standing next to the defender.


14 Feb 2016 20:11:55
Does it matter?


14 Feb 2016 16:57:05
Look what happen when the bresillian magician plays, the whole team looks different. Some will say that its only villa but with Coutinho and Sturridge back the other players seem to be more confident and the football is much more fluid. Big congrats to the whole team but miss the goal celebrations of Klopp on the touch line. Get well soon man.

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14 Feb 2016 16:16:19
The whole team had a good game today and hopefully no one injured. Goal difference in plus numbers for virtually first time this season. It might have been a poor Villa team but you can only beat what's in front of you. Happy Valentines!

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14 Feb 2016 16:21:44
What a difference a goal makes.

One game, I know. However, when you look at the team, there was a massive difference. I do believe Benteke is a decent striker who simply doesn't fit our style. How many times this season have there been decent opportunities in the first 10/ 15/ 20 minutes where Benteke has missed his opportunity? When that happens the rest of the team must internally drop to their knees and wonder what it takes to score a goal, and before you know it the attack becomes toothless as they try to over play the ball.
It is the same with Migs, if he does well early on then the defense looks solid as their confidence rises, if he makes a mistake then their nervousness creeps back in.

It made a massive difference today that we had a striker who can score given a decent opportunity, and that lifts the pressure and allows the whole team to play more freely.
I think it is a masterclass in man management by Klopp not to have rushed Sturridge back, but to allow him to get to full physical fitness and ease him in. Even today, with the game flowing freely Klopp did not risk giving Sturridge more minutes than needed. I believe he has done this to bring him back for the season run in. A fit Danny Sturridge could be the difference between Cup glory, European progress and even pushing towards top 4.
With the pressure totting up and results not coming, Klopp could have easily rushed Sturridge back into the team, as happened a lot under Rodgers. However, he kept calm, and realised that Sturridge needs the opportunity to recover fully and help the team long term.

What a difference a goal makes.

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14 Feb 2016 15:35:35
Hi eds

I know today's game is just one in isolation and we're off the back of going to extra time mid week. But it seems as good a time as any to ask about Benteke? He isn't a good fit and it really hasn't worked out, do you see us persisting with him or trying to move him on come the summer?

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{Ed002's Note - I suspect he will move in the summer if the club don't price him out of it.}

14 Feb 2016 16:15:44
Sorry in advance Ed002, as I know you hate talking about money. However, what price range would we need to accept for their to be interested suitors for Benteke? IMO, we would get offers at around £15-£20m but not much more.

Thanks

Z.


{Ed002's Note - I really have no idea Z. I don't want to get in to detail now but it would take a little something extra to get Benteke sold this summer.}

14 Feb 2016 15:32:24
It looks like I've been banned from live chat, probably due to swearing when sunder land went 2-2.
I tried to post that we would win 6-0 on it today.
I've been lurking on it today, still a lot of negativity on there not sure if it was sarcastic, because some of it seems to have been.
Seen abuse towards benteke and he's not even played.
What do Liverpool fans want?

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14 Feb 2016 16:20:32
It started out with a lot of ridiculous criticism of players that was totally undeserved. Think posters slowly realised this though and then it became very tongue in cheek. Everyone overjoyed to have some main men back in the gold. YNWA.


14 Feb 2016 16:34:00
Agree Si B. had to switch off chat for 10-15mins as there was too much negativity at times.


14 Feb 2016 17:38:02
Nice one Frisky in your prediction.

Is that after your £100 stake on Leicester to win the league then?


14 Feb 2016 15:28:07
Great match so far, but which fat boy decided to kiss origi on the lips ^^ rofl.

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14 Feb 2016 15:33:00
The missus went.

URGH, I bet he don't like that.

Pmsl. Talk about the occasion getting to him. It went from the cheek to a proper lip lock.


14 Feb 2016 16:40:26
I think that was Waro!


14 Feb 2016 15:26:38
Sturridge is crap and a crock they say origi not good enough they say benteke is a beast they say. Really i think lfc fans should really open their eyes these two are the lfc striker future benteke has no future at all.

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14 Feb 2016 16:04:29
maybe they said benteke looks like a beast. he is quite scary looking.


14 Feb 2016 17:51:12
Unfortunatly not scary enuf to scare the oppostion defenders!


14 Feb 2016 15:05:47
Sorry Danny Boy, forgot how good you are. Would I sell cause of your injuries, nah. I've backtracked.
I'd rather have Studge play 15-20 games a season then sell. Who is better who'd guarantee goals like he does. Ings, Origi and Firmino can fill in around him if he gets other injuries.

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14 Feb 2016 16:18:29
Max, I'm with you. Absence made me (and a lot of others) forget how great Studge is. If, and it's a big if, we can get a regular 2 available between Studge, Ings and Origi, with Ojo available too and players like Firmino and Coutinho in support, I really don't think we need to worry about our striking options for the next couple of seasons at least.


14 Feb 2016 16:53:15
I never so take me out of others. I always backed sturridge fit and unfit because he's our best player by a distance.


14 Feb 2016 17:18:51
"A lot of others, excluding Al"

:)


14 Feb 2016 18:29:00
I think it was mainly frustration from the fans. let's hope he stays fit for the rest of the season.


14 Feb 2016 14:17:50
After watching the united game yesterday it just shows what having a decent keeper between the sticks can do. Sunderland could of had a cpl more easily. He has saved them so many times this season. And look at Southampton, Forster is back and 6 games without conceding. Wonder if we ever looked at Forster at the time of getting migs. I know migs has lots of faults with his game but I used to think him a decent shot stopper. He can't even get the very basics right at present

Can't believe Chelsea are only two points behind now after they had such a bad start. Let's hope that changes with a win today

Looking forward to your piece on who you think we might be interested in Ed01.

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14 Feb 2016 13:36:40
Firmino, Coutinho and Sturridge start.

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE :)

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14 Feb 2016 13:34:45
Looking forward to seeing the front 3 play together today, sturridge can expect a few kicks to "test" his fitness I would imagine.

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14 Feb 2016 18:31:55
villa don't tackle north, so he will have to wait until Thursday to be given a proper test.


14 Feb 2016
The real time live chat page is open for today's Liverpool match at the below link for you to talk to each other during the match
Liverpool Live Chat page

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14 Feb 2016 12:53:58
Wonder if Studge will start today?

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{Ed001's Note - yes.}

14 Feb 2016 13:02:35
Excellent. Ta mate.


14 Feb 2016 09:18:52
ed001 do clubs ever do a video analysis technique with players? I don't know if it exists but what I mean is that for example say Ibe there's obviously players who have been established in his position surely watching a video watching how the best do it is the best way to learn?

I mean your critical analysis of players is absolutely spot on and yet the same mistakes get repeated yet it's not hard to change! I mean if you had an average group of players who knew exactly where to be and where to move they would outclass most teams in my opinion.

Just want to say this is an awesome page mate I live in Essex and on the way home when I was reading this site someone else was reading it opposite me and we both had a massive chat for ages.

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{Ed001's Note - the clubs all run video analysis these days, but it is only as good as the analyst and their ability to explain and make players understand. I know our analysis under Rodgers was terrible, which did not help him at all, to be fair, as they could not even understand opposition tactics etc. It is an area the club need to look at, the right analysts can not win games on their own, but they can provide the information needed to the players and coaching staff to win games. It is still a fairly new technique, so the quality of the analysis and teachings based on it are extremely variable at the moment.

What is particularly worrying is the simple things to fix are not being fixed, when a quick video analysis should highlight these problems very clearly for the player/s involved. Such as Moreno's tendency to charge up field too early.}

14 Feb 2016 09:32:07
Exactly what I mean when I said, nothing has changed. Klopp has come in that's it. Everything else remains the same.


14 Feb 2016 10:14:27
Thanks for the reply mate interesting stuff. I completely agree it's just baffelling as to why these errors are not getting sorted! ed001 you need to apply to become liverpools new analyst you would do a much better job although the site wouldn't be the same. I think ed002 would abandon us as well lol.

Hem to be fair it has changed under Klopp we have more attacking intent and more freedom. People forget we have had one of the worst keepers in the league as well as strikers that are either injured or just having a bad run (that's being nice) .


{Ed001's Note - I would still find time to look after the site, I would be lost without it now!}

14 Feb 2016 10:22:03
Peter Krawitz does the video analysis for Klopp. He was Klopp's analyst at Mainz and BVB too so he must be ok.


{Ed002's Note - How do you conclude "so he must be ok" from his working at Dortmund? Particularly given that Liverpool are far from their best right now. Additionally I would not discard Michael Edwards from the discussion.}

14 Feb 2016 11:05:28
On the basis that Dortmund did ok. Liverpool have been average for years so harsh to have an opinion on Krawitz after 4 months in the role.


{Ed002's Note - I haven't got an opinion on him - it is you who expressed the opinion and now you are saying it is "harsh" to have an opinion.}

14 Feb 2016 11:47:20
Not harsh to have an opinion. Harsh to judge him negatively after 4 months. that's MY opinion. Same goes for those judging Kloppo too.


13 Feb 2016 22:23:35
Ed1 whos worse migs or david james.

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{Ed001's Note - Migs, at least James had good games when he did well. If he had put some effort in on the training ground, maybe turned up on time and behaved a bit, he could have been a good keeper. Utter bell he was, but he was spending a lot of his time trying to cover for a back line that never attacked the ball in the air, so he came out for everything.}

14 Feb 2016 07:18:28
I would take back Itandje than continue with Migs at this point. Hell, even David James would be embarrassed to be mentioned in the same sentence as Migs. Whoever was behind the idea of offerring him the new contract should be sacked by the club.


14 Feb 2016 08:23:28
David was the one supporting him before the West Ham game, saying that his criticism was unjust and that he'll grow into a brilliant keeper. Don't know which is worse, Mignolet being so bad or James actually thinking he's good.


14 Feb 2016 10:09:36
Ed1,

Do you not think part of the reason for Mig being poor is because he doesn't seem to trust the players in front of him (some of whom are playing like real donkeys lately)?


{Ed001's Note - no, because he would need to be altering his game to make up for their deficiencies to use that excuse. He is not doing that at all.}

14 Feb 2016 12:55:53
Both utter garbage.


14 Feb 2016 13:01:12
David James had all the attributes to be a really top keeper.


14 Feb 2016 15:28:29
James far far better, can't put them I. Same bracket, James could have been a very good keeper, had everything but total application to succeed.


 
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