Liverpool Banter Archive July 14 2012
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14 Jul 2012 23:21:48
Brek Shea will be at dempsey's level at age 25. Only if Liverpool were interested....
AnfieldUSA
You dont know if that kid could make it in the premiership but he does look a good prospect for USA.
Fact is lads the overwhelming majority of American players are rubbish. Dempsey along with Donovan are probably the only ones who could play for a top 4 team, this Shea lad doesnt have that good a scoring record in the MLS who knows how bad he's be over here.
Martin
I've seen a fair bit of him, and in my opinion he is a solid player. Thats it, he could probably cut it at a team such as West Brom or Norwich (no dis-respect to them). But Dempsey is a class player, great touch and vision and can put the ball away, plus has already proved himself in the Premier League.
KiwiRed
I think you will find Brad Friedel is still playing in the prem and doing a good job.
Kopping a feel
Demsey can handle himself he is a good header of the ball , holds play up and links with other players and scores goals , his age does not matter all he needs to do is hit the onion bag and not the bar or post and he will do what we need. no matter who scores messi , torres etc it still only counts as one goal same as when demsey scores. red mick tag
14 Jul 2012 23:08:10
The problem I have with Rodgers is that he does not look or act the part.
His actions so far a pretty amateurish.
He wants rid of Carroll and anybody who can do something.
Replacing them with 'his' men, that will hardly set the world on fire. He has not started any Premier league games yet, but seems to be intent on supporting mediocrity.
Some are born mediocre, some have mediocrity thrust upon them. Some rise to mediocrity.
Rodgers is all these things, and yet you lot don't get it !
What has he won? Where is the silverware?
You could still give hima season and then judge him at the end of it
like most of us are doing
tom1975
I want the 10 secnds of my life it took to read that back.
Explain 'looking the part' and why he doesnt?
When did he say he wants rid of Carroll?
Was he not managing Swansea in the Premier league last season?
What could he have won? the Premier League? the champions league? What had ferguson won at his age?
I dont mind critisism if it is thought out, but this is mindless negative BS.
Daveevad
Bye troll, don't waste your time, we won't bite at such lame bait !
Red Derry
As a matter of fact, I'd say Brendan Rodgers approach to the media, PR and his general handling of image ('looking the part' as you describe it) has been clear for all to see, and has been commented on by a variety of people, for example his introduction as manager where he presented himself very well. I'm not entirely sure what silverware you expect him to have won; firstly he is incredibly young, but most importantly he was manager of Swansea last year- a just-promoted club many people expected to be relegated, finishing 11th and not many points below us. Absolutely not true that he 'wants rid of Carroll'- what are you basing this statement on? And even if he does, what qualifies you to make better decisions than Brendan Rodgers? If he does want rid of Carroll, who let's face it, despite showing 'spells' of promise (which isn't good enough), is a fairly average, one-dimensional player with very little to offer, then it will be for reasons relating to the fact that Brendan Rodgers wishes to implement a winning philosophy; a philosophy which Carroll may not necessarily fit into. Personally I think Carroll WILL improve and I would like to see him given another season, and plus, every team needs a plan B. But if he is sold, then you simply have to trust the manager.
Mediocre?
He hasn't even been in charge for 1 game yet. Haha.
You must have meant this as a joke because it makes me laugh.
A supporter is what it reads: We support/not follow our club. We support every decision, transfer, look of mediocrity and we smile and hope that things are great and if they are not, we keep supporting until they are.
We do not hire based on - if staff are 'looking the part.'
Sure - Everyone has a right to have an opinion, but please base it on historical events at Liverpool and not what has happened at other football clubs. Give BR a season to succeed or fail and smile because we are Liverpool!
On your thinkin mate Man City, after 44 YEARS of waiting wouldn't have had a fan left. Even when they won the F.A. Cup hadn't it been somethin like 28-30 odd years since they'd even won a trophy!!
No but what did their fans do, thet kept supporting the team and their club. Even when it was meant to be so terrible for us last season we got to two finals and won one. The City fans didnt even have that for a generation but they still stuck by them.
Take note.
Our greatest managers were strong characters- Shanks, Paisley, Rafa(yes Rafa!) who were their own men and did the job the way they wanted to......for me I suspect that now we are more of a business than a football club, we are more likely to see managers like Rodgers who may well be great coaches, but who won't argue the toss and go it alone against owners if they are frustrated in implementing their vision. Having said that....he needs time - see how he is getting on by Crimbo, then we can make an informed opinion on his ability. He's our manager now and he's here to start the new season, no matter how sceptical you are!
14 Jul 2012 23:01:38
goodday guys im from melbourne in australia big liverpool fan been to many games . just would like to ask now we have borini on board who else can we expect to follow ? thought's please. p.s great site ed's keep up the great work.
14 Jul 2012 23:00:18
be gutted if andy carroll goes........how many times have arsenal played team's off the park in the BR style of play and come away with nothing,this style doesnt allways work and they dont come any better than big andy to come off the bench and change the game.........personally id start him in the centre with suarez to the left borini to the right of a 3 man attack,tought his touch was immense at the end of last season
14 Jul 2012 22:47:51
Evening eds fellow reds ,rumours villa won't Carroll,could you see bent as part of this if we're to happen. And David haye just won fifth round knock out .cheers psv
14 Jul 2012 22:46:57
Eds Are the players who went to the euros gana go on tour too?
Basy {Ed002's Note - Some will and others will join en route.}
14 Jul 2012 22:43:01
Any interest in Matthias Suarez ? {Ed002's Note - Try the search function - lots of discussion.}
14 Jul 2012 22:10:24
HEY ED Is Borini going to go on the tour with the lfc squad on monday or is he still on holiday?
LFCALLDAY {Ed002's Note - I imagine he will.}
14 Jul 2012 22:07:17
Was Adam not one of our Highest Assisters last season before his injury?
He isn't as bad as everyone makes him out to be, give him a role further upfield next season, not like a defensive midfielder, someone who doesn't defend as much (he can't do that well as we all know) but he's a good passer and i don't want to see him go.
I agree, whilst he never reached the heights we were hoping him to last season, i think the fact that he got injured and wasn't able to provide any more goals/assists has really damaged his reputation amongst liverpool fans.
I find this particularly unfair when he got injured giving his all to get to that ball first, which resulted in him receiving a heavy tackle directly into the side of his knee. Can't ask for much more than that for commitment, which is what he is often slated for
x
14 Jul 2012 21:58:28
hi eds great site
does anybody else think thats its just a coincidence that dempsey isnt on any of fulhams tour photos.
peter the red {Ed002's Note - It is not co-incident. He is not on the tour.}
Ed why has he not go on the tour is it to complete a move?please answer
cheers
lfc liam {Ed002's Note - It is well known he is leaving this summer - it is to progress that.}
It would seem dempsey is leaving fulham no matter what, whether it us to us or whoever else,
a team like fulham cannot really afford to have him leave for free next summer when his contract runs out and theres no way he's signing a new contract there when he seems to have hit his best form at the age of 29, he needs the biggest move he get out of his career which looks like being now,
14 Jul 2012 21:53:13
Any chance of trading the losers downig, henderson, or adam for joe allen. That kid has a lot of skill and amazing how hard he fights for the ball.
M8 A bit un fair to call any Liverpool players losers ,think you should rethink your words , Lfc linc
We need supporters like you calling decent players deadwood - Henderson, Adam and Downing's form and performances before they came to us were excellent - what happened to turn them into bad players ( deadwood ), - they will all come good, given the opportunity and not played out of position. Henderson is a CM, not a winger, Adam is not a DM, and Downing should be given a free role - simples.
John B
I rate Joe Allen very highly and would love him at the club but trade ALL three of those players for him, no. We still need a squad. Offer Swansea £10-12 million and keep the other three aswell.
You are aware that the 3 players that you mentioned won a trophy last season and one of them was even MOTM in the final. What did Allen win last season, he should sign for us and win young player of the season along with the Europa League.
Scouse_Pride
14 Jul 2012 21:49:59
I can't see much of a future for Adam, Downing and Spearing. I'm just really glad that Brendan Rodgers is the manager now. He will get rid of the dead wood.
Dead wood? Go somewhere else. Your not welcome.
BigBadBen
That's because they are deadwood and the sooner you people realise it the better
14 Jul 2012 21:41:27
Got a song for Borini. Has anyone heard Dominic the donkey, Italian song?
"Hey! Chinger de ching two nine two nine, it's Fabio Borini.
Chinger de ching two nine two nine, our Italian Scouser Borini.
La la la lala lalade deda, la la la lala lalade deda"
Thought it was funny!
:p
Red Raw
14 Jul 2012 21:36:43
I don't like the way things are going.
By late November things will be clearer.
I don't like Rodgers.
Kopite 77
So you have been happy for the last 20 yrs except for our lucky euro win! havent a clue
Great reply - don't believe first poster has ever even seen the Kop.
14 Jul 2012 21:28:16
with maxi gone could this free up a position for a winger? or even another attacking player ?
thanks
Mike
It will leave the position open for 1 or 2 reserves. Sterling for example
robbie
14 Jul 2012 21:26:35
I am a massive fan, believe in BR, any new signings and all existing players. But United and City are too far away. Chelsea have spent massive and possibly more. Arsenal look set to loose RVP which will be a blow but have signed good replacements. Spurs have bought some good players and now being rumoured with Benzima I feel there are to many gaps to fill. Has BR been told CL is a must at the end of the season? I think fans need to understand that CL is going to be so tough to get if not Unreachable. I really hope I am wrong I just feel we need more quality and creativity, strength, width and pace. Mitchy
I'm missing something again - UTD haven't improved and are certainly not too far away - I cannot see that Arsenal have signed good replacements for someone who scored 40 goals last season. Tottenham haven't signed anyine to improve their side - and Modric and VDV may be leaving - why are people so negative about our future - we gave away 30 points at home last season, I cannot see that ever happening again - certainly not under Rodgers.
John B
Good answer John B.
I think Man City and Chelsea will battle it out at the top. Unfortunately Man Utd won't be far away either.
But as we showed last season, we can take points off all the top teams and on our day were better than them. We just dropped points against some of the other teams.
That has honestly been our problem for 20 years though hasn't it?!
The league is very competitive at the moment but with the right direction we can break back into the top 4.
Joe
14 Jul 2012 21:08:56
Call us Evertonians what you want but at least were not deluded like you muppets, all you lot do is talk about the great players you will get then end up paying 11 million on a reject and you moan about other clubs wasting money LOL. Park end
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All this coming from a guy who supports a small club. Who would be in the Championship if it were not for United giving/loaning you their rejects.
Luis Saha, Howard, Darren Gibson etc, etc, etc. And the cream of the crop Phil Neville (lol). And the funniest thing of all this, they actually charged you for Neville, Gibson, Howard etc, etc. lol lol
It won't be long now before United get brought up in front of the high court. For charges of daylight robbery, fraud and extortion.
You Toffees might aswell just bend over, everytime you see Slur Alex coming with a bag full of presents/crap players.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
Oh where to start.
Park end go crawling back to tree blue and talk about LFC on your own site. Or you you could try concentrating on the dregs of a team you claim to support..,
BigBadBen
As far as I have read, it was Borini who rejected Chelsea and not the other way round...
But ignoring that doesnt make foolish people smart
LiverBird
Blair, Blair, Blair! You bore me so!
We have no money!! Bit simple really so we have to go for players that are cheap...
Like pienaar, jelavic, Baines, jags!! Cheap but they are not s**t...
I could bang on about your transfer dealings but the whole world has laughed about that to much already so it's pretty boring like you! But the Borini one is good Roma paid £3.5 three weeks ago and you just paid 12m..... Brilliant
Tree Blue
So how does it feel all those rejects finishing above you in the league?
Tree Blue
Oh tree blue. See your back spouting on the LFC site. I notice you also post carp on the everton site (about LFC...)
Any chance you can get over your unhealthy fixation with our club, and concentrate on your own? Try something like 'can't wait to see who the toffees sign this year. I am really looking forward to the new season. Any idea who fergies going to give us EDs?'
Or you could just keep pleasuring yourself in your bedroom over LFC....
BigBadBen
(feel free to cut this one ED002. Apologies in advance.)
Whats up tree blue , is there even a blue page ? bet that gets loads of posts must be so exciting to be a blue all the big signings you boys make nail biting stuff . go on your own page , typicall blue just worrying about what the reds are doing because you are doing nothing again....andy.
Get back to rummaging thru Utd's & Ranger's bins
That's it girlies avoid all my questions.
TreeBlue
14 Jul 2012 21:01:48
hi eds. great site by the way. it may just be a coincidence but ive just been onto fuhams website to see any news on dempsey. i know they are on tour as tehy are playing in germany tonight. in there tour starting page there are pics of all the players except for dempsey. as i say may be just a coincidence or may be more to it
peter the red {Ed002's Note - He didn't go.}
14 Jul 2012 20:41:21
Sorry to see that my good friend Brendan is getting stick before the season has started, very tough, give him a chance you may get above the Toffeemen this season.
Think you need to give your new Italian a chance as i'm sure he will be as successful as the last one you bought, oops forgot about him!!.
On a serious note I bought Hernandez for the same sort of money and he has proved what a good finisher he is so get behind him and not in a man love kind of way.
Oh well good luck in that battle for 9th place and I will see you all soon.
Sir Alex x
Didn't Dossena score his only goal for LFC in the 4-1 thrashing you took at Old Trafford?
What are you on about? Nurse? Nurse? He's out again
Gee thanks alex , and hope you win as much this season , as you did in the last one .
redforever
You think we will finish as high as that .proves you no fock all then .
Don't worry guys, we all know this isn't the real Sir Alex because otherwise this post would read:
Sllluuur duurr hhurrrr murrr slurrrr slurrrr slurrr Hernachdez hurrr slurrr I love Howard Webb slurr hurrr durrr murr schlurrr ttooo much wschiskey tonsight.
Sluurr Alesxhcc x
Jolly Red
Themancs obsession with all things liverpool knows no bounds haha
As long as you finish behind city I'll be happy with 9th place :o)
Pegleg
I absolutely love witty banter with rival fans, Sir Alex x. Any chance you could maybe include some in your next post?
Again an excellent thought provoking and humorous post..... Well done Sir Alex... Good luck with the flotation by the way... Did Facebook no harm......
Dirks Engine Room
Just a quick question, what did you win last year!
Thought not! Conversation over.
Don't you just hate the cost of fuel Sir Alex x it must really rub, not to worry you'll get used to it, or fill your Merc with chip fat!
Slip on that, not here and there but just about every time you fill up - tears in my eyes with laughter... your basically buying season tickets to city every time you fill up the coaches, how many a year, ooh dear, pi55ed my sides!
Not to worry yourself or anything,
Take care,
Crystal Balls
Cheers Slur Alex! Although I hope our Italian does better than your little mexican last season. 10 goals and stuggled to make the bench. I'm sure it was just second season syndrum? Also can I recommend signing Joey Barton, as I think he's the perfect chav, to promote your new shirt! Plus he obviously doesn't like the champions... sorry noisy neighbours x
Don't tell anyone Slur Alex but I agree with you (shame on me). We've needed a player like Borini for a while. He is a fox in a type striker who plays on the shoulder of defenders and has good movement in and around the box. Watched a few clips/footage (not YouTube) on him. And he seems to have the potential to be terrific signing. He wasn't in the Italian 23 man squad for nothing mate.
I always thought that Darren Bent would have been signing. But Darren Bent for 15-20 mill or Fabio Borini for 11 mill? IIt would be easy choice for me mate.
Fabio Borini will be a fantastic bit of business for us imo.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
Ps. I feel dirty agreeing with you Slur Alex. I'm away to get a shower mate, be back in 2 days.
With your clubs debt, you'll be lucky to be around next season.
AnfieldUSA
It must be safe to come from behind the sofa now after Kun's goal
14 Jul 2012 20:36:07
Just wondered had any of the Eds heard anything about us offering Charlie Adam to Fulham as part of a deal for Clint Dempsey?
RedSG {Ed002's Note - No.}
14 Jul 2012 20:32:04
What seems to baffle me is I see fans on here saying we should sell these players and buy these and when you look at the list they seem to think our squad will be ok selling 13 plus players and signing 4 or 5, surely we need to be adding a few more players to the squad with the Europa League on our fixtures list this year? And the same players are always on the buy list even when the ed's have said time and time again there is no interest currently with x player. Would love to know the Ed's opinion on this? Surely we cant let that many go as we need cover. I know a few of the youngsters have will be promoted too the likes of suso and sterling.
14 Jul 2012 20:30:32
Cant understand why people are bashing dempsey. He is a great player. He is very physically fit for 29, skillful, creates and scored lots of goals, and never gives up. We ll get 3 good years out of him. He will open up the american market, as he is very hightly thought of over hear, and will create 10's of thousands more liverpool fans. In fact he'll prob pay for himself. And he scores a SH[T load of goals. He would be a great signing IMO.
Daveevad
I agree mate, he is a very good player.
its a shame that so many of our fans on this site (and the numbers are increasing) will never be happy no matter what the manager or club do.
I cant speak for anyone else however my concerns are not with Dempsey himself but rather who else could be bought for the same or similar money, who have more years ahead of them. I worry that he peaked last season and while he may have a couple of good seasons ahead of him, there may be some better options. If we sign him, I wont be unhappy, it just seams to fall outside the logic of the transfer principles.
Andy K
Its all fair and well buying young prospects, but we have many in the academy. Dempsey is coming in to his finest years now, its the best time to buy him (if we do!). He is 29 not 35. We have all seen with Arsenal and this is no disrespect to them, they are a very good side, but with 10 youngsters running around doesn't win silver.
14 Jul 2012 20:23:38
ed 2 would like to get a prediction from u?plz
top 4 in premier league at the end of this season? il go
man city
chelsea
liverpool
man u
majestic69
Man City
Man U
Arsenal
Liverpool
redforever
I agree either
man city
chelsea
liverpool
man u
arsenal
or
man city
chelsea
man u
arsenal
liverpool
Well i see man city and man united contesting for the top 2 spots again. i think chelsea are too defensive to mount a serious challenge and will finish 3rd at best. i think that arsenal, newcastle ourselves, chelsea and spurs will battle for third and fourth spot, although i think we will finish above spurs and newcastle this season so here goes.
1. Man City
2. Man United
3. Chelsea
4. Liverpool
5. Arsenal
6. Tottenham
7. Newcastle
i am hopeful of a third place but i would be happy with 5th.
derryred
Think villa might be in the 7With lambert .dont see us high than 7 at best
Very tight at the top
1 man utd
2 city
3 chelsea
then a gap to
4 arsenal
5 liverpool
6 spurs
7 everton
Not this again!
this time last year everyone said we were gunna win the premiership! ahaha, then we finished 8th.
I would be astounded if we got anything above 4th
Can see united struggling to challenge for the title this year - the only reason they were up there this year was because absolutely everyone else was diabolical.
now city are playing with a load off i see them smashing it, and chelsea have made some very good signings.
if they gel it could easily be
City
Chelsea
Utd
us or arsenal or tottenham for 4th but i so hope spurs crumble without redknapp
x
14 Jul 2012 20:22:17
I think if we bring in another 3/4 good players, got rid of some of the high earning deadwood, and used the younger lads in backup roles then I think we'd have a pretty good team.
Lewis the Red {Ed002's Note - Deadwood?}
I think he means the players that don't fit BR system i.e. downing, carroll
Do we actually have players thats considered deadwood now?
Ye i know Downing had a miserable season last year but he's been a good performer before that, if only that strike against sunderland was a goal :p
Adam was nothing special but still contributes in the offensive before the injury.
Maxi/Kuyt is already gone, neither were given a real chance.
If we can score this season i see us at atleast 3-4 spot, but we need to fix our regular problem om not winning away vs "lesser" teams.
Maybe the docks is in need of some renovating
derryred
Every time I hear the term 'deadwood' bandied around I think Ian McShane must be on high wages.
Cuchulainn's Hounds
Downing is a scapegoat end of! If we had a striker who knew where the onion bag was Downing wouldn't of got the slack he is getting. He made a hell of a lot of chances last season. He is not a world beater but he certainly isnt 'deadwood'. He still has a lot to offer, but I am not disproving he has a hell of a lot to prove.
James Mc
I meant players who are now on the fringes and are payed big money.
Lewis the Red
14 Jul 2012 20:20:57
Hi eds just thinking about Suso and Pacheco. Both are familiar with the Spanish style of play. Do you think they'll play a more active roll next season?
More me pacheco could have a similar impact as maxi did, look when he made his debut in the champions league (or was it europa?) when he nearly scored and hit the post.
14 Jul 2012 20:20:29
Ed,s
Would it be possible to set up a liverpool trol and moaners page, that way all the annoying moans and abuse could be imiediatly posted there and they could spend a lifetime wallowing in there doom and gloom.
I dont post on the rumours page as i dont have any,in fact most of time i dont know what day it is never mind who were going to buy,but do love commenting on the banter page its a good laugh sometimes.
I dont mind people off other clubs pages posting or commenting here,after all its a banter page and thats what its about,wind each other up but with fun.
I think you eds get a lot of s^*t from these trolls and moaners so just give them ther own page and the rest of us can live in are banter nirvana.: )
martin p
p.s thanks for the hard work Eds, dont allwys agree but allways appreciate .
pps once again im sorry bout spelling and grammer ,defo not my strong point. {Ed002's Note - They have their page Martin: tinyurl.com/5s7wymz }
14 Jul 2012 20:10:54
"Why go on another teams page at all lad!?
Tommy"
Oh I'm sorry Tommy, how dare I engage in any discussion on another site, I'm truly sorry for having some so called Banter, and joining in some footballing debates on other sites, you do realise you can post on other sites without being a troll don't you? From know on I will do what the majority do then, criticise the Ed's, or the owners, or the players, or the manger or now fellow fans.
I really am done with this topic and whilst I think this is a fantastic site, I'm afraid its being ruined by the attitudes of some of the posters (not a dig at you by the way Tommy).
I think I will have another break from this site, as it's been anything but enjoyable today, thanks for the great work Ed's I for one really appreciate the effort you all put in, and really can't believe the way you are treated, especially my personal favourite Ed002.
14 Jul 2012 20:08:33
anyone know if the pre season games are gonna be on sky or espn?
Its gonna be free on Sky LFC TV channel 329 or online.
There on espn mate, not the lfc channel. Or if your a yonk, fox sport
Siggle
14 Jul 2012 20:08:17
"Why go on another teams page at all lad!?
Tommy"
Oh I'm sorry Tommy, how dare I engage in any discussion on another site, I'm truly sorry for having some so called Banter, and joining in some footballing debates on other sites, you do realise you can post on other sites without being a troll don't you? From know on I will do what the majority do then, criticise the Ed's, or the owners, or the players, or the manger or now fellow fans.
I really am done with this topic and whilst I think this is a fantastic site, I'm afraid its being ruined by the attitudes of some of the posters (not a dig at you by the way Tommy).
I think I will have another break from this site, as it's been anything but enjoyable today, thanks for the great work Ed's I for one really appreciate the effort you all put in, and really can't believe the way you are treated, especially my personal favourite Ed002.
14 Jul 2012 20:05:26
Mancs pages depressing me a few years ago we used to be liked with those players, while knowing we could get them, we had the best midfield in the world and a world class striker who is now considered a traitor.
Then due to bad owners we lost key players and our form slumped mainly due to the alonso transfer, (this is why the bring back benitez band should stop r. A couple of years later we find ourselves in this situation, with a midfielder who behaves like a ballerina (aquilani) another mouse, I mean midfielder who belongs in a championship (cough..spearing) and someone like adam, enough said.
But not to be too negative as we have, a great young manager who has the right philosophy to take us far, he also knows how to handle the media king kenny's downfall. We have a good template to work from with arguably the best defensive unit in the league. If lucas gets back to form and suarez stays out of trouble alot of people who have alreadly written us off could be eating there own words.
Add in a few gems like sterling and suso or texeira and you start to see the bright side. We also have great youth players like mclaughlin who reminds me of dani alves, jerome sincair, jordan ibe, jack dunn or alex o'hanlon. With a couple of big but clever buys and the future looks bright. For me sometimes you need players like borini who will pop up in the right place to score a title winning goal.
P.S Hope I wasn't too negative..
lil red
14 Jul 2012 19:58:10
downing and adam failed their first year exams but unlike henderson and carroll, they don't deserve resits. get rid ASAP as there is no potential for improvement
Adam deserves to have a resit more than carroll and as you said adam doesn't deserve a resit
14 Jul 2012 19:46:21
Brendan Rodgers says it could take 4 years for Liverpool to compete for Champions League places and suggests he may leave liverpool before they win any trophies.
14 Jul 2012 19:28:12
Eds any chance on mountinio or sissified coming to liverpool this summer?
Great site {Ed002's Note - No.}
14 Jul 2012 19:27:00
Defoe to Liverpool 9 mil.
BR
As a Spurs supporter i would snap your hand off. Then when you have signed him, you can teach him the offside law.
14 Jul 2012 19:26:13
edd can you answer these am sure most people feel the same
1 do you think borini will start on the right or down the middle (i still think we need a right sided attacker)
2 allen looks good going forward quick with ball at his feet he must see him and stevie g bombing on
3 were do you see demsey playing (left side attack?)
i think that will be it and cover for the left side of defence if jack goes
thoughts please {Ed002's Note - I cannot answer these, perhaps a Dear Brendan letter is needed.}
14 Jul 2012 19:16:07
i recon they should sign de rossi or lavezzi
Im sure PSG will be looking to sell lavezzi 1 week after signing him
Lavezzi has signed for PSG.
De Rossi wouldn't want to leave Roma otherwise he would have moved a few seasons ago.
Lewis the Red
I think he meant Giuseppe Rossi who is an Italian American. I think we could get him or Nilmar for £16m {Ed002's Note - Rossi has an injury that may well end his career - probably not a snip at £16M. Nilmar is very likely to move to Al-Rayyan after a move to Internacional fell through. Roma, Galatasary, Fiorentina are also showing an interest but not his favoured Sao Paulo.}
14 Jul 2012 19:14:37
Basing this post on Macca's info that 4 players in 4 players out:
4 out:
Aurelio - Gremio
Kuyt - Feyenoord
Maxi - Newell's Old Boys
Bellamy - Cardiff (Not done yet, but Macca thinks so).
4 in:
Left back?
Borini
Winger?
Winger/attacker?
Trying to see what positions need to be replaced seeing as them 4 could be the 4 leaving us. I could see Dempsey moved in for Bellamy? I have no idea who could be put into the other positions though, any ideas?
The main idea behind this post is to say that maybe our '4 outs' have already gone! And we may not need to worry about Downing, Carroll, etc leaving.
Opinions?
Thanks, Ell.
14 Jul 2012 19:48:05
You are assuming Macca was talking exclusively senior squad players. maybe the 4 in will include a couple of young players for the Reserves
Hmm. Somehow I don't think Fernerbahce would be too pleased if we tried to sell Kuyt to Feyenoord.
Redjinal
I was just thinking of who's left already and realised it was 4 (almost, depending on Bellamy). Interesting few weeks ahead!
And my bad, Fenerbahçe* :)
Ell.
I think you may find that Dirk Kuyt now plays for Fenerbahçe
14 Jul 2012 19:13:15
Quick qeustion,
How is it that the club has a percieved lack of funds when it is in the top 10 on the Forbes wealthiest soccer club list? I also was of the belief that the debts were off the boks? If theses are true why the financial doom and gloom? One more question, in the states we get private and public financing for stadiums, is there any public financing available in the UK? Thanks eds love the site.
Matt from Fl
Also quit talking sh&# about fsg they are good owners
The Ed's and others could probably answer this better, but generically for the last few seasons LFC has something like £180M in revenue with around £220M in expenses.
Obviously some of the expenses are one time sorts of things (player acquisitions, fees for the defunct stadium plans, etc.) but in general LFC has (as memory serves) I think the 4th highest wage bill in the EPL and we haven't had Champions League income (add'l match day revenue, TV rights, plus increase in commerical sales) to help offset this.
Bottom line is the owners/management are working on sorting the wage bill and have done a decent job I think gaining add'l sources of commercial revenue, but without actually being in the black or revenue coming from other actions (e.g. player sales), it's going to be tough for the owners to invest a ton more money than the already have into the squad.
So, it's not doom and gloom, but some amount of right sizing (to borrow a cliched American term I really don't like) is probably appropriate for the long term sustainability of LFC.
On a side note, lots of posters on here are often griping about the Red Sox. A bit of insight there from what I've been able to determine- looks like the Red Sox had revenue of ~$310M in 2011 with a profit of ~$40M. So, for those complaining about JWH and Co spending tons of money on baseball players, perhaps if LFC can become profitable then we'll see similar investments on this side of the business.
Anyways, just my thoughts on the subject.
RDL
14 Jul 2012 19:11:28
I've been informed by a reliable source that Brendan Rogers was only interested in signing Clint Dempsey if he was made available for less than £10 Million. Apparently there is no longer any interest due to the asking price. Joe Allen would obviously be a better buy for around the same price.
Also Adam Johnson will be our next target and will be approached now that Maxi has officially left.
Andy Carroll will not be here next season nor will Charlie Adam and Dani Pacheco.
14 Jul 2012 19:10:43
Liverpool Football Club DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT, have an interest on bringing Clint Dempsey to the club. He is just being linked in the media and the speculation is completely false.
Cheers
KP
How do you know?
Siggle
14 Jul 2012 19:10:42
Anyone know what number Borini is being given ?
29. Do you ever look at the official website?
29 on official site
29, Apparently it's his lucky number.
Robbo JPR
29 mate.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
Iisnt he wearing 6 in the photos?
ItsNotRocketScience
14 Jul 2012 19:10:13
I for one expected we would sign Rodgers as our Manager well before it happened. When Macca posted it I was pretty happy and i wasn't in the know I just could see the potential. So who ever has pissed off Macca please pull your head in a bit because the rest of us are just guessing of who we will sign next. Sure Borini has been on the radar for last couple of weeks but so has every other tom dick and harry over the last two months. So come guys we all have wish lists but seriously do you really think that BR comes on this site and reads who we want. Doubt it. To be honest there isnt really alot in our current team that can play the BR system. It is amazing how many high paid players in the EPL that cannot pass the ball to feet consistently and yet it is the most basic part of football. Anyway my rant over..
Red from Shepp
15 Jul 2012 10:06:43
As a reaction to the continuing whining of little tit boys who still occasionally diss Macca, and his rumours.
Even though I'm sure it's not needed, I would like to show my support, because your rumours are the main reason I'm on this page ten times a day and have been for the past three years. Your intel is brilliant and rarely if ever wrong.
I'm sure this is an opinion shared by 95% of the people visiting this site and the last 5%. Well that comes down to lack of intelligence and you can't safeguard yourself against that.
Your rumours are a life saver, especially during the summer, where we are so deprived from PRL footy.
And to you ED's. Love your work and thanks for a brilliant site.
Greetings from Denmark
Sigetty
14 Jul 2012 19:02:19
from my sources dempsey will not be coming to LFC due to caroll pledging future to liverpool
I wouldn't think it mattered whether Carrol went or not for Dempsey to sign, as he can play in a number of different positions.
Lewis the Red
15 Jul 2012 10:09:57
Bellamy has is most probably off.. so the position that Dempsey would play in would be open.
and expect downing to go at some point as he does not fit a 4-3-3
14 Jul 2012 19:00:44
Ed great site and excellent work..
Ed if carroll is going..then y is downing here? he too should go..he was bought to supply cross to caroll..
We need to sell adam, caroll and downing..no use whatso ever..coz BR style of play will not suit these three..
We need to sign another striker soon..
Kenny brought up us from a mess and left us again in mess now...
cant see us getting money from caroll, downing and adam..
Ed whats ur thought?
reply expected
We can get around 30m for those three
15-17m for carroll
10-12m for downing
5m for adam
14 Jul 2012 18:53:03
Dempsey to sign Monday, with Rameriz to sign after the olympics. AC to stay unless he wants to go... then it will be to the higest bidder.
14 Jul 2012 18:44:34
Juventus official could enter talks with Liverpool over suarez soon. However Suarez is keen to tie up a new deal with the club. Sissoko is being targeted as a long-term replacement for Gerrard. Alvaro Negredo and Clint Dempsey could be seen as potential signings soon.
Psg having problem with ibra's wages demand . they may in for suarez now.
14 Jul 2012 18:43:56
Hi Eds or Macca
Looking at Liverpool's staff it doesn't seem we have many specific coaches working for us. Is this an area that Brendan Rodgers is looking to improve? Do you know any staff/coaches that we are linked with? From my knowledge Xavi Valero still lives around the area, and I understand it's a stab in the dark, but do you know if he is tempted to come back and if Brendan Rodgers is interested in him recruiting him for his coaching team?
Cheers
Jay Jay Okocha {Ed002's Note - There has been a refresh of staff over the summer. I don't know anything of XV returning.}
14 Jul 2012 18:41:22
Allen for a reported 12m?! When we could get ramirez for 15m-17m, for god sake buy him!
Ramirez is five times a better player than Allen he is so overated.
Allen is not overated. and will you all start listening to the Ed, Ramirez appears to only be an option if a certain player was to leave, incase you haven't guessed who that is, it's Suarez, were not going to have both.
RNred
Two different kind of players so you cant look at it like that !!
Love to know how many games people have actually watched when Ramirez has played - I personally have only seen highlights, and as we all know highlights can make anyone look good, they even made Ngog, Poulsen, Konchesky etc etc look like world beaters.
Not a wind up - it's just most people haven't seen a great deal of European League players apart from highlights, and the odd live match on tv.
We obviously have to trust our scouting system and what BR and other club employees know themselves.
John B
I'm not sure Ramirez is the sort of player to flourish in the premier league; he's better suited to Italy. At least Allen has some prem pedigree
Allen is FAR better than people are saying he is. Those criticizing him have clearly not watched him play football. He possesses superb control, passing, movement and balance.
Not criticising Henderson, who has scope to improve - but Allen is a much better player atm. He thinks and acts so much faster, and he has much more imagination and awareness both on and off the ball.
With everyone fit (and hypothetically, Allen signed of course) i'd see a midfield trio of Lucas, Allen, Gerrard as being first choice tbh.
He is also more than capable of covering for Lucas than any of our other current midfield options if needed. He could even play as the attacking player of a Lucas, Gerrard, Allen combo, he's that good - (though I don't see it as his best position - Shelvey could be great as the attacking player).
If he was English he'd be hyped to the stars.
He breaks the mould of the stereotypical box to box type British player in the same way as the likes of Wilshire and Ramsay do.
A very classy and intelligent player.
There should be plenty of opportunities for likes of Hendo, Spearing, Adam & Shelvey too in such a system (3 cm players)... and Aqua too if he's about.... with youngsters like Coady and Suso to contend for a place & move up the pecking order if any of those should leave.
We have good options, that are improved by signing Allen imo - In particular, his ability to cover for Lucas would be invaluable to us.
BJH YNWA
14 Jul 2012 18:28:24
seen clint dempsey in a black audi coming out of speke airport travelling towards city centre 100%
14 jul 2012 18:24:39
just a thought but danny agger would be a decent defensive midfielder......with coates, carragher, kelly, wisdom and skirtel covering the centre-half slots.
lucas leiva, when ready to return, should step further forward and spearing should be sold to improve the quality of the squad.
in addition to borini, would love to see allen, dempsey and gaston ramirez. with kuuyt, aurelio, maxi, aquilani, cole, pacheco and possibly, carroll, leaving i can see opportunities for sterling, suso, adjoran, wisdom and robinson. this will be a big season for the likes of kelly, flannagan, robinson and coady. the europa league will present tonnes of chances for the youngsters and i can see one or two grabbing the bull by the horns. morgan, for example, could announce his presence against a lesser team from azerbaijan or malta.
suso and sterling are massive prospects who deserve playing-time.
kelly and robinson have done enough to justify more 1st-team action and flanagan could be a massive squad-player.
we have very decent reserves and, with one or two signings, a very good first-team.
our manager has the right credentials to hoist us back up to the top of the tree......the premiership isn't that great (chelsea, arsenal and man.utd. all struggled last year......nobody showed any consistency and nobody won more trophies than liverpool!)
ok.....we were a million points off the top but small changes could win us the league!
consistency is the key and brendan's ethos will be a positive factor in that respect! beating chelsea away only to lose at home to a bottom-four team has been a problem for years. big bren will change that mentality. the signing of fabio borini signals brendan rodger's intent.....the lad is an italian ian rush !...defends from the front and knows where the goal is.
joe allen and clint dempsey would be immense signings and (if we can get him) gaston ramirez or a defensive midfielder (dembele ?) would complete the jig-saw.
maybe a straight swap with fulham for dembele and dempsey for andy carroll (with a a percentage sell-on clause) could be discussed and a jay spearing plus cash deal for joe allen with swansea?
i don't know if and when lucas leiva will resume his normal duties but i do know he was never played in his true position. lucas leiva is not a defensive midfielder !
too many players at liverpool are playing "out-of-position" ...lucas, gerrard, johnson, kelly, suarez, kuuyt etc
lucas is an attacking midfielder, kelly is a centre-half, suarez is a winger/attacking mid, etc.
with the exciting addition of borini i can't see the need for more additions to the strike-force and gaston ramirez or adam johnson would complete the width problem. if we don't sell anyone else we'll be a massive force.
i can see us winning the league at a canter......at a canter!
sold/gone?/going; aurelio, maxi,spearing, pacheco, kuuyt, ecclestone, carroll, darby, aquilani, adam, downing, wilson,
jones
coming in(?); borini,allen, a.johnson/ g.ramirez, dempsey., dembele.
whatever happens (above is guess-work) i'll support brendan rogers and his revolution.
can't wait for next season !
anfieldpete
Dont agree with this for the fact you think getting rid of 13 players and bringing in just 5 will happen, we need a larger squad this season what with being in the Europa League...
Daniel Agger is all left foot and if he has to go anywhere near the righthand side of the field he gets caught out. So no, he couldn't play defensive cover centre midfield. He's a great left sided defender for a reason? his left foot.
kidmillions
Cannot believe would get rid of Carroll and bring in Dempsey - last season was exactly that last season - Carroll will definitely be better this year, Dempsey had the season of his life - no guarantees he could do it again.
Playing Dembele as a defensive midfielder would be another example of playing someone out of position.
I was just trying to put a positive slant on things ....it's good to get feedback and, I admit, I sometimes suggest positional alternatives to provoke discussion. Agger as defensive midfielder isn't something I'd suggest as a permanent move but more as a way of utilising our ball-playing centre-backs together....Kelly, Coates, Wisdom and Agger are all comfortable on the ball. Skirtel and Carragher provide the grit. Lucas won't be 100% for a while and isn't a proper defensive-midfielder so I was just thinking out loud about Agger as a Def Mid. Maybe Carragher could do the job?
Fact is, we need a defensive midfielder and Spearing isn't the answer.
ANFIELDPETE
So...
We have one of the best central defenders in the world.....
So, lets play him in defensive Midfield.
Then we can get Lucas - one of the best defensive midfielders in the world, to play further forward....
and then you complain that too many people are being played out of position.
What the hell is this! Good lord. Are you trying to rip up all the good things about our team?
Refrain from this nonsense in the future.
We had the 3rd best defence last year - and that's with Reina having a bad year, and Enrique settling in too - even after Lucas injury we did well defensively. Our problems do not lie in our defensive play.
Whilst speaking of Lucas - he has been our best player for 2 seasons now in his DM role, where he also plays for the Brazilian national team as their 'Dunga' if you will.
(I'd like to add that just as Brazilians tald of a 'Dunga' role - if you say 'the Lucas role' to any LFC fan - they know what you mean. When you make a role 'your own' so to speak - that's as high a praise as you can get in the game in terms of showing you play the position extremely well. Like Makelele, or Messi.)
- and you want to rip it up! You have no right to criticise or tell any manager what he should do imo.
You'd have us royally screwed!
BJH YNWA (sorry for the blunt honesty btw. Just like the Terminator - It's nothing personal.)
14 Jul 2012 18:24:06
Hi guys/gals /eds, I THINK!we have the players to finish in the top 4,last season we appeared clueless which I blame on bad Management and coaching,lets pray that will all change this year and with a little tweeking we will be back where we all THINK we should be,cant help wishing for a mash/alonso/midfield.(godin)
14 Jul 2012 18:19:56
Morning all, just wondering if anyone has any ideas or have heard anything through the grapevine on how much money BR has left to spend? I seen that it was meant to be £20 mil total. We havnt made any money from player sales which leaves us with about £12 mil if Borini was in fact £8 mil. In my opinion we need a new back up left back, 2 wingers and a back up striker to have a chance to compete next season. Sounds like an impossible job to me, feel sorry for BR hes got his work cut out, hopefully he can do well with what hes got. Personally thought we would have a decent war chest this season with all the deals that have been made with sponsors etc.
Any info will be appreciated.
Thanks eds and Macca for the info and hard work.
RAH, YNWA
14 Jul 2012 18:19:48
"Smithy is a legend.
Blair Mayne YNWA "
Cheers Blair mate, it's a shame people have lives sad enough where there only enjoyment is to spread lies about people or to try and cause trouble, and unfortunately this site is full of such people, and that's the stuff we get to see.
I will repeat the complement Blair Mayne is a legend.
Back on to the football, and since Spearing has been discussed today, I will give my opinion, I think people need to realise he is no longer a kid, he is 23 now, and is clearly not good enough to be a first team regular, however he is no where near as bad as some people say, he would be a good addition to a lower league team, and he clearly is a good lad, but not a good enough player for us unfortunately, and soon Coady should be pushing for a place in the match day squad so I think his future lies elsewhere.
JFT96
Smithy
I completely agree his age is no excuse sure lucas is only 24 so he is not and will never be good enough and i think rogers knows this so he will get shot of him
14 Jul 2012 18:10:11
Liverpool are looking to sell Spearing, Adam, Pacheco, Jones, Aquilaini and would listen to offers for Carroll, Cole and Downing.
Brendan Rodgers is trying to get rid of the old (Kuyt and Maxi) and in with the young who are technically gifted to freshen up the squad whilst also reducing the wage bill.
I believe we are chasing;
Dempsey - Versatile forward, who can play across the front of a 4-3-3, already proven in the EPL, only negative is he is 29 but it allows us to tap into the American market and would be on relatively low wages for a player of his experience.
Allen - Would play in a defensive role, more as a player that keeps the ball rather than hard tackler, 22 and technically very gifted. Wouldn't be cheap, i'd expect around the 15m mark and too me seems very similar to Henderson.
Attacking Midfielder - Unsure on who we are going for here, Sigurdsson was originally our man but i suspect we will move on to another player. I would personally like to see Gaston Ramirez who seems a definite possibliy or Keisuke Honda who is the talisman in a very talented Japanese national team. Any ideas on this position eds?
I would expect that we will fill other positions with either young players that we will bring in or from our youth team.
Expect any signings from Rodgers to be around the 20-24 age and technically very gifted.
Thanks
Jonny {Ed002's Note - You should no problem finding my thoughts on Ramirez and Honda.}
On paper our attacking Mid is Gerrard with Shelvey and possibly Aquilani as cover. However i am forming an opinion that Gerrard may be dropped further back as a holding mid playing alongside Lucas - Lucas doing the defensive work, Gerrard holding and distributing the ball. Henderson covering for both.
14 Jul 2012 18:02:13
Just some info for Liverpool fans hoping we'll get Yann M'Vila, I've heard a rumour he will almost certainly be going to Arsenal.
14 Jul 2012 18:01:29
I'd like to see a Brazilian in the team. {Ed002's Note - Someone like Lucas perhaps?}
I think he means your more traditional type of Brazillian player {Ed002's Note - Like Pele or Garrincha then?}
Lol ed 002. socrates, zico and continue more ...
r-r
Maybe like; Coutinho or Nilmar or Oscar or Renato Augusto or Eduardo Rodrigues(Dudu)
14 Jul 2012 17:54:05
Hi eds.
I know this might stupid but can you see us signing a world beater or at least someone who can score us 25+ goals a season or is Borini going to be the only striker we buy and do you not think Big Andy should be giving 1 more season seeing as he finished last season very strong goals in his last starts he comes on at wembley and nearly upsets chelski's big day and then scores for england at the euros i think the lad deserves to be giving a proper go dont you ?
ramy2007 {Ed002's Note - There is interest in Dempsey and depending on who leaves other options may arrive.}
Ed002 what are you doing to me what about big Andy haha............
ramy2007
14 Jul 2012 17:51:10
I do love some media outlets describing the departure of Maxi as a 'setback' for Liverpool & Rodgers. Having done the same with Kuyt.
Now, I have great respect for both players, and I'm not saying that either of them is s**te, and I certainly wasn't desperate for the club to offload either player. But they're both over 30, were on big wages, and probably would've only been squad players anyway. Even with only one signing made, I honestly don't think either would be in our best XI. And unlike previous departures of senior players, like Sami, we actually are in a position to get a good replacement.
We'll get over it, I think.
- Something Red -
And both have been part of a team that has struggled like hell for the last 3 years to finish higher than 7th, at the end of the day their time was done ! Kuyt was an amazing servant to our club and understood us and understood our club, Maxi got it to, but when your times up.....!! it's not a huge loss when you've got until the end of august to replace any players that leave, i highly doubt our owners will let brendan go into his first season short on players especially when they want champions league football and we are in the poxy europa league
Good Point .
I'm over it big time already and looking forward to more potency from the positions those players previously occupied .
EdWood
14 Jul 2012 17:43:27
heard a rumour from a source at anfield that 2 BIG signings on way. 1 being david villa and the other is pato. they will sell carrolll, downing adam aswell. cant wait for new season we back in the big time, cant thank brendan rodgers enough
I heard the same mate. But the 'BIG' signings I was told it would be is the Klitscho brothers. If they don't come then Tyson Fury and David Pryce will be considered.
Cheers
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
14 Jul 2012 17:24:15
Hi eds I can't believe some of the posts giving FSG stick. A perfect reminder is Rangers that could of happened to us. So let's give them our support and go about things the right way and under Rodgers a philosophy. Let's spend within our means.
Mighty reds
For the life of me, I can't figure it out either. Basically what some seem to want is:
a) a multi-billionaire owner who will give the club unlimited money for new players but
b) will not over-commercialize (e.g. lose the soul) of the club while also
c) spending 100s of millions on a new stadium but
d) not raising ticket prices
In what fantasy land is this even remotely feasible?
RDL
Fsg are doing same as gillett and hicks. where is new stadium or even updating anfield? all talk like the 2 muppets used to do. poor signings. splash the cash so we can have a new ground,or redevelop anfield and buy players to challenge for title or they should sell up {Ed002's Note - It takes a while to sort these things out - planning permission, infrastructure changes etc.. Even if they start now it will be difficult to have it ready for the start of the season.}
I think if we spent within our means we would be looking at free transfers this summer.
A lot of the kids on here need to realise the club is making a loss.
The fact we are bringing in any players shows FSG are giving us proper support.
MIKEY
Ed u say its all takes time, yes it does but the stadium talk started when david moores was chairman and he saying we needed new owners to take us to another level and get us a bigger stadium yet 10 years plus have passed and yet we havnt progressed stadium wise yet we had a few owners. how long is it going to take now? even when or if they decide it will take yet another couple of years to build. it not good enough thats why we are falling behind teams, even sunderland have a bigger stadium than us {Ed002's Note - A lot of things have changed since then. There is no denying the effort H&G put in to the stadium project but I think that the new owners are taking their time to look at options and get the right solution - which to me remains the redevelopment of Anfield to add 12-15k seats that I think FSG would like to see. Economically this would seem to be the option that would give the best return on investment, but this is the option that is hampered by local planning regulations. My feeling is that this is seemingly the option that most fans would prefer. Then, of course, we have a potential issue related to naming rights which may well upset many of the fans.}
14 Jul 2012 17:15:50
do you think we will sign another midfielder? Either an attacking/creative type or a DM. Or do you think BR will try to use what we've got?
Cheers
14 Jul 2012 17:15:47
"Ah good aul smithy, He spends more time on the manc and everton than he does the team he supposeidly supports"
Where do these no name cretins come from? I hardly post on the Manc pages nowadays and yesterday, after becoming bored I flicked on the Everton page to read Liverpool and it's fans getting abused, so I responded, and then replied to a number of posters abusing me for no reason, they were the first post I had made on the bitter pages, and I won't be posting on their again. Meanwhile I am a regular poster on this site, and have been for a while. I'm a huge Liverpool fan, I have a ST in the Kop and have been all over Europe supporting Liverpool, so please do shut up.
It's also funny that you fail to see the hypocrisy of your post.
JFT96
Smithy
Why do you bother going on other teams pages ? obviously your not going to read anything positive about our club, just stick to LFC
G BOX
Fair play smithy dont let them cretins get to ya.
G.Red
Take no notice of the trolls Smithy lad.
Jatt YNWA
Why go on another teams page at all lad!?
Tommy
Call us Evertonians what you want but at least were not deluded like you muppets, all you lot do is talk about the great players you will get then end up paying 11 million on a reject and you moan about other clubs wasting money LOL. Park end
Dear Mr G BOX..
Smithy, Myself and other fans go onto other clubs pages for a bit of BANTER. And to be honest mate sometimes id rather post on their pages. I'm sick to f***king death of reading so many negative posts about BR, Borini, FSG, the Ed bashing on here.
I'd rather go on the Manc page and tell them how sh!t their players are. Than post on this page and ridicule our owners, players and manager.
Oops! That must mean I support United. I'll go back onto my own page now, sorry.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
14 Jul 2012 17:07:05
If Carroll is on the way out and now rumours of Downing going and this coupled with the players we're looking at signing , we only need to get rid of Suarez,Gerrard and Lucas and we could actually be Swansea
Dav001
14 Jul 2012 16:59:33
why dont we just go and spend 40 million on jovetic and ramirez , sell adam spearing for 10 total
pepe
johnson skrtel agger enrique
lucas
ramirez gerrard
suarez borini jovetic
subs carroll aquilani henderson downing coates
can t tell me that this isnt a top 4 side and at a net spend of merely 30 million surely its possible
tom1975
A bit of an oversimplification, I think.
Do you know for 100% sure that both Jovetic and Ramirez would want to play for LFC?
Do we have £30M (plus wages, agents fees, etc.) to give?
Does this really guarantee a top 4 finish?
My perception is the owners and management team are looking for value for money, not necessarily the 'hot property' signings. To me, there really isn't necessarily a world of difference between a £10M, £20M, or £30M signing, it's more a matter of identifying the right £10M ones and allowing them to flourish into £30M ones.
As a corollary, there is absolutely no guarantee that a £30M signing will be successful either.
If the club had a positive cash flow, then things might be a tad different, but at the moment it is what it is.
14 Jul 2012 16:49:25
Hi eds. What is the situation on adam johnson, munian, walcott and pato?any chance of one or maybe two of them will enter the anfield grass? {Ed002's Note - Search function.}
14 Jul 2012 16:49:22
Internet and forums
The problem with the Internet is that it enables morans to have a voice with anonymity ...( look it up !)
To post absolute rubbish and hide behind a banner of LFC and say they are supporters..,
Opinion is fine but please put some thought behind it...
You have a rumour qualify it..
FSG are fine, judge BR at the end of the season, give players a chance, Carroll came good, Borini is a fox in box.., and put your ..ucking X box fantasy football away..
And know this Sky, Talksh.t and the papers print crap about us because it gets the greatest response.., therefore if there's no news then let's make it up about LFC
Rant over
Pistol Pete
14 Jul 2012 16:47:23
Whhhhhen the ball hits the net its the Chelsea reject thats Borini
Whhhhen the kops sings his name and he score once again thats Borini
Brendon sings dingalingaling dingalingaling thaaaaats Borini
Whhen you say he cant score he will knock in one more Thats Borini
All good but 'Chelsea reject'?
Not sure about that part!
Ell.
Brilliant but just chane 'reject' to something else.
Ozone
I like it just get rid of the reject bit to maybe:
Whhhhen we watch his cool chip he's who chelsea let slip, thats (or oul) Borini
derryred
Great but why not this in the first instead of reject.
Whhhhhen! the ball hits the net! its the fox! in the box! thats Borini!
kidmillions
When the ball hits the net at the speed of a jet? Don't think he'd appreciate being called a reject
14 Jul 2012 16:37:24
ive heard our next sining will be either callejon, demsey or ramirez, with liverpool playing brendan's 4-4-3 next season, we will need a CAM and a RW?
Not sure about not having a keeper or are we gonna try and sneak 12 players on the pitch? I feel so lucky to get this inside info from you on next seasons formation.
Isn't a 4-4-3 a bit like cheating when most other sides have to settle for 4-4-2 or 4-3-3?
No need for a goalkeeper next year Playing 443
I'm sure every manager would love to use 12 players.
4-4-3. Brilliant!
Its obvious he is using the rush goalkeeper rule we all adopted playing 4 a side in school.great bit of play
Kopping a feel
Clearly looking to Enrique being a LB/GK combo. I consider it an innovative strategy!
Some would say we never had a goalie last season
14 Jul 2012 16:08:50
Evening Ed002! I understand this is not LFC related, but I would very much appreciate it if you could give me an answer here on the Liverpool page; the reason being the last time 2 times I enquired, your answer didn't show up anywhere on the site, or atleast I couldn't find it (Search function was made use of).
How is Palermo going about their new found riches? I remember you mentioning a failed James Rodriguez bid. Any other players you know that is of interest to them? Also, is Fabrizio Miccolli staying? And, have Milan accepted PSG's double bid for Ibra and Silva?
Cheers
AG
{Ed002's Note - Palermo have set targets, one of course is Liverpool related. Miccolli will almost certainly leave. The PSG deal is not completed at this time.}
Cheers Ed002! Thanks for the quick response.
AG
14 Jul 2012 16:05:40
I wish people on here would stop going on about that waste of space aquilani like he is some kind of world beater he isn't and never will be he clearly doesn't want to be at the club and probably never did so can you's just realise that fact and stop going on about him , i wish he would just piss off back to italy so we can get his useless carcass off the wage bill !!
I agree with you, i can not believe the support he gets on here, he's useless, has no desire to play for LFC what so ever yet people seem to love "Aquaman" but people like Borini and Hendo who want to play for us are awful and never should set foot on Anfield.
G BOX
You two obviously have no eye for a quality footballer and would much rather have some boring player like henderson in our central midfield who can only pass 5 yards, looks scared to get stuck in, never calls for the ball and looks like a lost child on the pitch. Aquilani is the closest thing we currently have to Pirlo, xavi, fabregas etc.
He is a prime example of a merchant, the sooner he leaves the better.
derryred
"You two obviously have no eye for a quality footballer and would much rather have some boring player like henderson in our central midfield who can only pass 5 yards, looks scared to get stuck in, never calls for the ball and looks like a lost child on the pitch. Aquilani is the closest thing we currently have to Pirlo, xavi, fabregas etc." I really do hope for the sake of humanity you can see the irony in this post
14 Jul 2012 16:03:39
EdWood {Ed002's Note - They'll turn up.}
14 Jul 2012 16:03:36
Any news on Allen, Dempsey or any other potential targets
Great site
Nathan {Ed002's Note - No.}
14 Jul 2012 16:03:33
In respect of Fulham, with them interested in Andy Carroll, lots of people saying that a player exchange is possible.
Eds, do you think there's any chance of Bryan Ruiz? I think he's a very good player who can play on either wing, or as an out and out striker, and I think he'd fit the Rodgers style perfectly.. just wondering. {Ed002's Note - It is about Dempsey - so no.}
14 Jul 2012 16:01:25
I think Luis Suarez will be playing more as a central striker with total freedom next season . The players either side of him playing as inside forwards , such as Fabio Borini and Raheem Sterling (maybe a Daniel Sturridgeon the left)
....Fabio Borini......Luis Suarez......Raheem Sterling....
In Brendan Rodgers : 2-3-2-3
I think the forward line may even interchange at will , just a thought .
EdWood
14 Jul 2012 16:33:08
wait till borini starts banging the goals in before you think of a song for him
14 Jul 2012 16:21:44
Ed, was just wondering what the story is with the young American-Bulgarian lad we loaned out to Düsseldorf last year, Villyan Bijev? Many thanks {Ed002's Note - He will need a work permit and I don't know if he will be able to get one. Perhaps another loan.}
14 Jul 2012 16:17:58
Don't normally come to this site, I'm an Evertonian (coming in peace), but I was wondering if someone who goes by the name of 'Smithy' is a regular poster here? He's switching sides and 'trying' to invade our site...
Ah good aul smithy, He spends more time on the manc and everton than he does the team he supposeidly supports
Smithy is a legend.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
14 Jul 2012 16:14:54
We have the players we just need the manager to get the best out of them downing ,carroll, adam enrique,cole are all good enuff the correct systems will set them free ... pesceho suso have still to progress into the first team and rodgers must demand consistancy from these high earners ...rant over
dannybhoy
14 Jul 2012 15:48:36
Bellamy may leave for QPR
Hans
14 Jul 2012 15:47:03
Hi eds how much did we pay for borini and is dempsey the other striker target? {Ed002's Note - All can be found easily by using the search function or perhaps spending time reading the posts.}
14 Jul 2012 15:43:43
I see FSG are getting bashed again, when will people realise the amount of money they've already put into us, and let's not forget we are currently running at a loss. I'm sure they will back Rodgers, but anyone hoping for City like spending is going to be disappointed. Bare in mind we have also missed out on the big money that comes with competing in the Champions League as well, they've finally got the sort of manager they want in Rodgers, and I can see this becoming a successful time for the club, if the fans support and back the whole club, and have patience.
JFT96
Smithy
Im sure we all thought the exact same when Hodgson and then Kenny were appointed as manager. Rodgers is too small time, Going after small players, Cant even persuade his former players Sigurdsson and Caulker to sign. Borini is not worth 11m. Money been wasted again. Rodgers will fail and by christmas we'll be starting again. Joke. Greg
We know that Borini is not worth 10 million.... Thats why we paid 8 million for him!
jonnybarnes89-90 {Ed002's Note - Or perhaps a little more.}
Haha sorry Greg i disliked you post before seeing the "Joke" bit.
derryred
14 Jul 2012 15:34:30
I really hope borini and any other signing this window score tones of goals to shut up all the moaners on here never read such defeatist rubbish from so called liverpool fans think yourselves lucky you follow the greatest team in the world and support them what ever happens.
RED KENNY
I would also love for him to score lots of goals but that's because I want all lfc players to score
14 Jul 2012 15:34:20
I just heard Downing might be moving on
BR sees him as his Lionel Messi and I must admit I saw in flashes last seaon what he means.
If he can work on his finishing, and give him the Messi role I am gonna put some serious dough on him to be top goalscorer next season
Good joke very funny! For a minute I thought you were being serious!
If Downing is our Messi we are bloody well screwed.
Zero
I heard a little rumour that Downing maybe linking up with O'neil again at Sunderland.
Ozone
I also heard he maybe of to sunderland.....steve
14 Jul 2012 15:31:03
Looking to try and offload downing after only one season. Ok he didn't play very good but give him a chance ! JaacckB
He has and always will be a very average winger. No ability to beat someone, no trickery, no excitement, all for 18m, what amazing management.
14 Jul 2012 15:26:59
I we can sign Jovetivic, Ramirez and some CDM cover for Lucas i'll be over the moon! We'd then have a midfield of Gerrard Lucas Aquilani, and infront a front three of Ramirez Suarez Jovetivic (or bench Aqua, Ramirez fills that place and Borini joins the front three). Now that sounds like a title contending team to me. Jovetivic would cost around 20m, Ramirez 16m and maybe Moussa Sissoko for cover 6m-8m. Along with the sales of Downing 10m-12m, Adam 4m-6m, Kuyt done, Maxi done, Spearing 2m, which would cover the Jova signing. It's really not too much to ask, they're not overly unrealistic I dont think and would really make us a frightening team to play against.
LJ
14 Jul 2012 15:18:24
Why didnt the PSG owners buy liverpool. Im sure any other owners would have a stadium plan and better transfer funds
Where would you rather buy a company? Paris or Liverpool. Plus PSG were regulary fighting for leagues anyway, We havnt been close in the last 2 years, apart from finishing 2nd once. easy choice.
Why oh why do we have moranic posts like these? why don't you go supprot psg then mate. we have sensible owners that want us to live within our means, if you want owners that throw money around go somewhere else.
huddz red
When all the arab oil dries up, you're gonna be eating your words cos clubs lyk man city, malaga and psg are gonna be done for.
Meantime they ll win leagues cups and champions leagues create a legacy big enough to be self supporting long term and attract potential new investors even when the arabs piss off
Could'nt agree more,we've sold the club
twice and were still in the slipstream
of the top teams.......wake up and smell
the coffee FSG are trying to do it on the cheap,the last team to win the league
on the cheap was......NOTTS FOREST...
auntie annie.....
I am a Liverpool fan but it is Nottingham Forest not Notts Forest.
14 Jul 2012 15:17:21
Liverpool looking to get rid of Downing.
Looking to sell but willing to loan...
KKM
14 Jul 2012 15:12:42
If we do get Dempsey, would that be our "winger" in a 4 3 3 formation and borini center and big teeth on the left and they rotate. Did Rogers play two defensive mids and one attacking? In your opinion what position would you think we need cover in or need a new player? (I'm not asking for possible targets just thoughts on how you think we's structure the team) thanks any ed.
4-3-3 with the midfielders rotating to maybe 2 dm and 1 cam to 1 dm and 2 cm or even 1 dm 1 cm and 1 cam. it will depend on the game situation. same way the forward line will rotate with the wingers becoming inside forwards and vice versa, again depending on how the game is going and how compact the defending team is.
derryred
14 Jul 2012 15:12:04
Dempsey is the perfect replacement for kuyt in my opinion, whether or not they are different type of players.
14 Jul 2012 15:01:11
PLEASE VOTE GUYS. we do not want dempsey this is liverpool f.c guys . we can and will get better if this is the best we liverpool can do in the likes of dempsey who is yes knocking on for 30 well i just give in. i still think we are one of the top 5 club's in the world we need some one far far better than dempsey. {Ed002's Note - Last week you didn't want Borini. Now you don't want Dempsey but still are not getting everyone organised through a co-ordinated hate campaign using Twitter and Facebook. I won't bother commenting on your "top five clubs in the world" theory.
Is there a damp patch on your chair?}
Hey if we'd had dempsey and his 23 goals last season we'd had finished higher in the league!
Actually i'd like to know how liverpool are a top 5 club in the world granted they are still a big draw in england with a large fan base , but across europe im not so sure i would put Barca, Real m, AC Milan, Inter Milan,Man Utd and Bayern M ahead of liverpool at the moment. Also you could also make a case for M city and psg as it stands today i know its because of the money and not the history of the clubs but its pretty clear that if players had a choice today i dont think they would choose liverpool .
14 Jul 2012 14:49:48
hello,
long time reader first time poster. Not really a rumour more an observation. i notice we are not interested in any big name signings. is there a particular reason why? do we not have any money or will the owners just not invest? we are getting left behind by not just utd, chelsea, and man city but also tottenham. is there any chance of a player with the quality of gaston ramierez? please post on rumours page and try to give me an answer.
kind regards
speersielfc
YNWA {Ed002's Note - It would be naive to say that funds would be unlimited and yet that is what many continue to think. The owners will I am sure support the manager with respect to players coming in - but within sensible bounds. If the sale of a player brings a real windfall - then they would i am sure support that being re-invested.}
So we have to sell to buy. We were better off without FSG. They should sell the club ASAP {Ed002's Note - That is not what was said.}
No harm but common sense dictates why we are not interested in "big signings".
a) we will have to pay an enormouse transfer fee
b) we will have to pay enormous wages to tempt them
c) they may not be interested in a move to liverpool
d) the chances are if we are in for a big player than chelsea or city may also be in who can offer twice the wages
thats all i can think off the top of my head
derryred
Agreed, Derryred. I'd mention that the club has had pretty large losses the last two seasons under the new owners, thus contributing to the first few points. While the owners are supportive, it's not realistic to expect them to be continuously throwing money at LFC with no return on that investment.
14 Jul 2012 14:41:19
I am glad with the boring signing, think the lad looks pretty good. However I really hope we keep Carroll. Last season was a real learning experience for a 22year old, he had injury and did not get a run in he team until late on. Lets remember that must have been really hard for him as he was one of the first names on the newcastle team sheet for 2 seasons. When he got a run for us he was great, and offers something in his presence and aerial ability we have nowhere else. I am hoping for the Rodgers style next year, but would question any coach who cannot embrace and accommodate talent. Looking forward to the upcoming season hopefully with Carroll in a red shirt ynwa
14 Jul 2012 14:39:07
Ed
Would we consider making a bid for Steven Defour? I don't know how his move to portugal has gone. Looked a player with great potential upto last season, and is still young.
Has he been a success in Portugal? I think him with Munian, Afellay, Krasic and Elm would be a brilliant bit of business this summer.
Jonesred {Ed002's Note - The response is the same as when you asked at 7:30 last night.}
I couldn't find the post from last night Ed. that's why I asked again.
Jonesred {Ed002's Note - I found it by searching on your name. What did you use?}
14 Jul 2012 14:35:32
Winger has to be one of either A.Johnson, Denisov, Ramirez or Boudebouz.
Johnson would be 10-15 million
Denisov 7-10 million
Ramirez 10-15 million
Boudebouz 7-10 million or 5 million plus Cole. Joe cant go back to Lille as Martin is there and seeing as Sochaux made good $$$$ on that sale they could add Joe to help lead an inexperienced Sochaux outfit.
{Ed002's Note - Denisov is certainly not a winger.}
14 Jul 2012 14:28:07
I think it would be a great idea to let jonjo go to fulham on loan for a season as part of a potential Dempsey deal. It would be a genuine chance to start regularly for him at a decent prem club and by 2013/14 he could well start to phase into Steve g's role. It could aslo shave some cash of the transfer fee.
I think he's a great prospect! It would be a good fit for all.
Any chance of this happening eds or do u see him as being used regularly at anfield this season?
JJD
I want Jonjo playing for us this season.
He'll progress far quicker being involved with us and training day in day out under Rodgers than he will at another club
14 Jul 2012 14:10:49
Hi everyone.
Yesterday someone asked me about the Spanish players I was referring to, it seems like BR doing business with kind of restricted budget BR going for young cheap but quality targets. I was told those interest to BR was very much expensive the likes of Muniain, Pedro likewise and it would be hard to convince them with amount of wages we can offer and the suitors they would attract if they become available.
However I still expect one player to join from La Liga if player sales go well we receive few quids we 'll see...
Armando
14 Jul 2012 14:04:41
Is Aaron Lennon coming to Liverpool and who are liverpools main targets
14 Jul 2012 13:56:56
Jay Spearing loan to buy (wigan) SUSO will take his first team place
Charlie Adam rumours are he could be sold to newcastle
all depends on Spearing move and a replacement . lot of talk of Fabio Alonso coming back and been made vice captain . if this does not happen this summer then the Adam move to Newcastle and Alonso back to liverpool will happen in january
Danny Wilson will be sold 2.0m
Conor Coady a loaned out
Nathan Eccleston will be sold 1.5 m
Craig Bellamy back to cardiff
Aqualini Staying and playing (no body will touch him because of his attitude ). Rodgers is hoping the signing of borini will help him settle
Joe Cole heard he will be staying but only if the following deals fall throw WEST HAM bound . if these deals happen
Paulo Henrique Ganso 22m
Philippe Coutinho loan with options to buy
Fabio Alonso if not now then january (Vice captain)
Dempsey the americans want it not sure rodgers does.
Allen rodgers does want but the americans think the cost could be far more then the player is worth .
Jay Spearing is a defensive midfielder with tight restrictions on his role last season. Suso is an attacking midfielder with licence to roam around the pitch... how is one to be replaced by the other? And who is Fabio Alonso... is this Xabi's Dad?
Spearing as been offered to Manchester airport as Plane Marshall.
"Spearing as been offered to Manchester airport as Plane Marshall."
LOL. Took me a second - but then I got it. lol. Very good indeed.
BJH YNWA
14 Jul 2012 13:51:46
Hi Ed i will not going to ask you who lfc will sign. I just want to know do u expect lfc will sign st dm winger lb. And what is ur choices. And any more news on carol.
Thanx. {Ed002's Note - There is nothing new on Carroll. You may do best to seek out Macc'a post about likely signings.}
I would of thought their would of been more news on carol around christmas
14 Jul 2012 13:51:24
So Rodgers has started off the same way as Kenny did. WASTING MONEY. Kenny wasted money on rubbish. Coates 8m Downing 18m Adam 6m Henderson 20m and Carroll 35m
Now Rodgers wastes 11m on a Chelsea and swansea reject. Last week Parma and Roma agreed Borini was worth no more than 7m. Roma paid Parma 3.5m for his contract and we decide to pay 11m. Laughing stock.
Whats next? A 10m bid for Dempsey, Who is nearly 30 and over rated.
Another shocking season ahead for us.
David YNWA
I would imagine there will be a split of profits between both clubs they just did a ghost transaction to apease our laws of singular ownership.
But I could be wrong.
kopping a feel
Love it when other clubs fans, sign it YNWA.
Henderson - class player
Coates - quality, and could turn out be a real bargain.
Downing and Adam - both proven PL players before coming to us, no reason why they can't reproduce previous form under different guidance.
Carroll - wasn't him who determined his transfer fee - new manager, new system, once predicted to be the England CF for the next 10 years - definitely worth at least one more season.
From other football people who know more about the game than you, all say Borinin is a very very good player - and in todays market, he was cheap.
Was your clubs page getting boring, so you thought you'd try the LFC page on a wind up.
John B
FSG just aint got enough money for liverpool. Rodgers has not got a clue if he think Borini would exite the fans he must think we are a small club
Borini scored 6 goals in 9 app for Swansea. If they had the opportunity to buy him, they would have. But, Borini had already agreed to join Parma by then.
Also you have somehow not mentioned his stint at Roma as it is clear he was adored by their fans.
Now if memory serves right, they are a bigger club than Swansea.
As for his transfer fee, buying a 21 year old striker with the third highest goal/minute ratio in the fourth biggest league in the world for 11mil is a bargain.
As for Dempsey, I don't see Arsenal fans moaning over why they signed Arteta. He is at his peak and could give us the push required to get us into Top 4.
Corvin
14 Jul 2012 13:46:26
Eds what are all these talks about Rodgers going in for Allen and Sinclair etc surely there was an agreement between BR and Swansea? {Ed002's Note - Please read the posts.}
If other clubs bid for Allen only then can we bid for him. If other clubs bid for him then our 'agreement' with Swansea would mean nothing. Or Allen could just put it a transfer request.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
14 Jul 2012 13:45:53
What about Diego of Wolfsburg eds?
He would fit into tixi taka.And who is the person likely to be our DOF?????? {Ed002's Note - I would very much doubt Liverpool would go for Diego. I don't see a DoF being sought.}
Diego would be a really good signing. Linked a few years back but interest cooled as he kept getting loaned out by his parent club. Him or Ramirez would give our midfield some desperately needed flair! {Ed002's Note - I would question whether Liverpool should take a risk on a player who was thrown out of Juventus after a year (Juve taking a £10M loss on the transfer) and who has since walked out on Wolfsburg three times in a year, been find £400k, loaned out and is now being sold on for 10M euros?}
14 Jul 2012 13:34:13
people holtby an open everton supporter
So was carra,rush ,folwer,mcmanaman.whats your point.
The point is Everton were never in for those players where as Holtby is going to have a choice.
It doesn't matter who a player supports, they want to be the best they can and achieve as much as possible. holtby will do what's best for his career, if that means joining a small club and playing with hibbert and osman then that's fine
14 Jul 2012 13:31:52
At the risk of suffering a stream of abuse - I'm gonna defend wee Jay here (and a few others) as I see he's getting some rather negative posts.
Whilst I, like many others - have also found Spearing somewhat underwhelming as a player - I feel his attributes may help him to thrive in Rodgers' system next season.
If he can brush up on his close control and tighten up his passing - he could be useful.
Playing on the deck may really suit him - and the pressing game will suit him to a T - as for his stature - Mascherano & Makelele were no giants either.
In a midfield 3 his role will be more refined - on his day Spearing can be a quality player (yes, quality - I've seen it - as have others - Yaya Toure being one). Imo he deserves to get another shot - there were a lot of players with more natural ability, and who are paid a lot more who performed worse than Jay last year - and showed nothing in terms of fight and passion on the field.
But it's not just Jay that should be written off. A lot of players who looked poor for large portions of the season - or who were used sparingly under KK may surprise some people next year.
I have a feeling that Adam & Downing in particular may surprise a few people - but also Spearing & Jonjo (though Shelvey being great wouldn't particularly surprise me - so much talent...).
Spearing is a good 3rd choice DM imo - but at the moment he's no.2.
For this reason I'd still like to see another option brought in there as 2nd choice to compete with Lucas - preferably someone who can play in a couple of positions - Joe Allen has been mentioned - and would be a good option imo - as he can play with - or alongside Lucas depending on the situation. Whoever it is - we need someone.
Thinking we could survive since January with only Spearing as our only natural DM player was madness imo.
A 12 year old would not have done this in Championship Manager without being chuckled at by his friends - and thats just a game! Doing it in real life - in a £££B industry is/was sheer incompetence. A shambolic lack of planning which cost us many points. I expect this to be rectified this year.
The new system and style may have a radical effect on some of our players. I can't wait to see us play again.
Of the current lads - I don't like any of Adam, Gerrard, Hendo, or Shelvey in a DM role, nevermind Aqua - or Cole. lol.
Of these CM players I feel that Hendo has most of the attributes needed to play there - but needs to better understand the role tactically and develop his passing range. The concept of switching the play seems lost on him...
I've seen him play there for England's u21's a few times, as well as the few times he was deployed there by LFC - and even at that level he was poor as a DM. But with proper coaching, who knows?
Although ideally - i'd prefer someone else - I'd expect Hendo to play more as a CM player than as the chief DM player.
There are not enough DM players in the squad. We should hang onto Spearing for that reason. Even if we sign another one. There will be lots of games to play - he'd a good no.3 DM - and you need that many.
Homegrown too - always a Bonus. Good squad player - total commitment and works like a madman. We need more with his attitude to instil a real fighting mindset at the club.
Barca might be small - but in the word's of Chris Kamara - they fight like beavers for every ball.
That's what I want...
nay!
That's what I demand!! We are Liverpool!
BJH YNWA (Spearing for England!)
Spearing is 1 of the worst players in the whole league. Not even championship quality
Coady is our 3rd choice DM and already better than Spearing. Spearing out
Not worth abusing anyone who thinks Spearing is a PL player - proved how out of his depth he was in the FA Cup Final, nice lad, good family - but nowhere near good enough for any PL team - Championship level at best.
John B
I think he will be a good squad player but i would like to see another dm bought
Just to all the haters, I will just say that i watched Spearing run the reserves team for 3 season. Im pretty sure he got double figures in goals or round about and I remember him banging in a hatrick or two. The step up takes time (remember Lucas!). They boy can play, whether he can step up at LFC is a different thing. But trust me he was head and shoulders above the other reserves who won the league twice! I dread to think what will happen if Suso, Sterling, Coady, Wisdom et al get progressed too early and struggle for 18 months... half of 'YNWA' posters will cruxify the poor lads before they get a chance to learn about 'ups and downs', form being tempory etc. Lets back the players that the managers play because this is what KK and BR were/are paided to do on a daily basis! I come back to Flannigan having a good tackle in one game and being the new right back for the next decade and then having a bad pass and not playing again... they're young let them develop!
14 Jul 2012 13:30:50
I think BR would really want to clear the decks and remove the hangover form last season but shifting 5 yard pass hendo,little Charlie Adam, and the stifled downing will be unlikely.
Paying the wages of aquilani was never on the cards from the cautious tight fists of fsg.
However the goalscorers and important match winners of maxi kuyt and Bellamy look to be missing this season.
Meanwhile Carroll is still linked to AC Milan for cash not loan one can only hope, reminiscent of the fire sale when that albatross of heskey was lifted from the club.
But of things coming into Liverpool, will we get the big players we need as borini is just a swap for bellers and kuyt role, Dempsey for maxi looks good, but the midfield aqua lite, and attack still needs a sigurdson cam and a beast with
Some movement and skill and a proven goalscoring track record like tevez or hunterlaar , meanwhile fsg are off to poundland to coax another chelsea former benchwarmer sturridge to liverpool.
Have we seen it all before under the heat of a fire sale or another false Dawn. if Suarez walked things really would look amateur and immature at anfield.
Another glass empty post - what is the matter with people on here? Borini looks a good player, and people saying Chelsea reserve reject - fact is he rejected Chelsea, and i'm sure other people who have played for reserve teams have been successful.
John B
I think your a fool if you think we should get rid of hendo rodgers system is all about 5 yard passes keeping possesion henderson would thrive under rogers think before you speak
Why all the posts about replacements for bellamy. He isn't leaving as far as I am aware
14 Jul 2012 13:24:09
P101 {Ed002's Note - There is always one little johnny jerkoff wanting to grizzle about something.}
14 Jul 2012 13:20:59
Hi Ed's , just wondering which of the talented youngsters will be moving to the 1st team for the upcoming season?
14 Jul 2012 13:20:04
Tevez to Liverpool as the exciting signing. Not sure what to make of this because he has caused trouble at every prem club he has been at. Although he is an awesome player and I think he would be a cracking player, his attitude needs to be taken into consideration. What do you guys think? Would you have tevez ? He has openly stated today that he would welcome the move to lfc. HK7+
He may have caused trouble, but like Ibrahimovic, he scores goals and plays for teams that win trophies - I'll have some of that please.
John B
Where does it say he is willing to come to lfc? Please post a fresh banter/rumour with more of an explanation. I can't find anything..
14 Jul 2012 13:19:33
Great signing by the boss with Borini coming in - Brother in law lives in Italy, and has seen him play live several time - Says he is a very very good player - Very strong, pacey and works his backside off for the team, plus very good at set pieces - Says we have a bargin.
Have heard we are seriously looking at the following:
Dempsey (expect the deal to be announced by wednesday of next week - Fee £8m).
Allen (Still 50/50 and depends on the player submitting a transfer request - fee will be in excess of £11m)
Jovetic (Contact HAS been made - LFC looking to spend £15m, Fiorentina want £20m)
In addition, BR really wanted Alonso back at the club and an approach was made - but told he is not for sale this summer, hence the attention now on Allen - However, I understand we were offered a choice of two other players instead - Not 100% who, but my source believes Kaka 'may' have been one of them! Cannot see it myself but would be a good addition.
Carroll IS staying - BR has been slightly mis-understood with his statement and does really rate him - Give the team a plan 'B' every team needs.
Leaving will be: Spearing (WBA/Southampton - £4m) - Wilson (Celtic are sniffing around - £2.5m) - Bellemy (free - Cardiff) - Adam (Newcastle/Blackpool - £5m)
BR will give youth a chance and expect to see Sterling, Shelvey, Souso, Coady, Flanagan and Robinson involved next season.
Doesn't sound a million miles wrong but i expect spearing to stay for some reason.
derryred
Bellamy for free? surely we can make a small profit on him if he leaves?
14 Jul 2012 13:06:20
Business partner is a season ticket holder at Man City and although rumours have been going on for months about Adam Johnson coming to LFC, he has never said ir heard anything to suggest it will happen, until now.
He has just called me to say a guy he knows who is a Fan Liaison Officer at the stadium has told him we are going to sign him next week.
I hope this is accurate as I personally feel that he would fit perfectly into our team and he has already proven himself at Prem League Level, and for me should have been given more playing time at Sh*t*y JB
14 Jul 2012 12:58:28
Hi Eds,
Borini done and dusted. What are the chances & likelihood of Dempsey and/or Allen signing this coming week? Also who do you see leaving us now, after Maxi yesterday.
Red Matt YNWA {Ed002's Note - Read the posts please Matt.}
14 Jul 2012 12:55:42
Hi eds any ideas who we might be signing? What are your thoughts on the likes of suso and sterling getting first team football next season.
Paulo {Ed002's Note - Please read the posts.}
14 Jul 2012 12:52:50
Ed, what is the latest on Dempesy? If there is a latest.
Thanks. {Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed in the past 30 minutesd that I am aware of.}
14 Jul 2012 12:52:34
If Henderson cost 20m the Allen would cost about 35. and if Carroll cost 35m then Dempsey will set a new world record. Cant believe Kenny wasted so much money and left us in so much trouble. But it looks like Rodgers is starting the same way by wasting 11m on Borini. Chelsea/Swansea reject, Im talking about borini, Not Rodgers. Ill give Rodgers until October and he'll be shipped out. Greg
You sir are a moran.Have you ever seen Borini play?He is a goal poacher with an eye for goal.He will surprise you,try and support our manager and his players.
Eric The Real Red
Y.N.W.A
Greg. just get off this site. do us all a favour.
You are obviously worried that BR might build a side that would be a threat to whatever team you support eh Greg - but don't worry BR will do the right things, and hopefully be a threat not just to your side, but to every other side in the PL. Henderson is twice the player Allen is, and will prove it this year.
John B
Borini actually turned away from Chelsea and that he was a major hit at Swansea and they would have loved to have kept him.
A player isn't a reject just because he used to play for them! Is Suarez a Ajax reject?!
Have you actually ever seen Borini play? Or have you spat your dummy out just because he's not Cavani?!
The lads a 21 year old Italian international who scores goals and works his socks off for the team who we've actually bought for £8 million with add ons, rising to £11 million. {Ed002's Note - Actually he had agreed a deal with Parma before Chelsea let him go to Swansea on laon.}
I think you'll find Comolli negotiated the prices.
Absolute rubbish Greg.Borini at 11 mill was about right. He is a proven goalscorer and an Italian international.
Kenny reign did overpay but to be fair he was put in a corner re Carroll and he did sell Torres for 50 mill. Actually all of the players he signed looked good players until they got to LFC. Maybe they just did not fit in but to be honest a lot of players who had been here a while performed below part for a big part of last season.
You greg are a total A***ER.......
STEVE
RED4LIFE
I would have given you an agree until the Rodgers part came up therefore i will not vote.
What a nonsense ill thought out post that was Greg.
Whatever the merits or otherwise of AC, Borini cost £24m LESS. And that for a 21 yr old who has broken into the Italian national side..,
Oh, and get your facts straight before whining. Neither Swansea nor Chelsea 'rejected' Borini. I could explain it to you, but then again, you could try reading a little bit before letting your fingers run riot on a keyboard....
BigBadBen
Still trying to figure out what a 'moran' is? Related to Ronny?
14 Jul 2012 12:47:29
Why don't we just go and buy Adam johnson and Ramirez and go for it two good wingers
Would be too easy for LFC. Everyone else can see it but we only buy avg players nowadays to do things the hard way.
14 Jul 2012 12:44:03
Used the data editor on fm to put myself into the juve team and scored 40 goals in 50 games. Any chance liverpool will sign me this summer? I look like a real talent!
14 Jul 2012 12:41:43
Great site eds.do you no if there is any truth in Carlos Tevez saying he would love join liverpool one day? Hearing it was on a website and twitter?
Red jay
And who is gonna pay his £250,000 wages??
huddz red
Man city, do you think ac milan will pay his wages?RedTurk
14 Jul 2012 12:41:29
Eds, this isn't really a rumour but, is Peter Gulacsi any good? I've never seen or heard much of him but he's fairly young so may be one for the future?
LFCBilly
No point in talking about young keepers at liverpool because reina will be here till he's 38, provided the club matches his ambition
14 Jul 2012 12:41:01
Ed if carroll leaves i would assume we would become interested in another striker on top of borini and dempsey. Have u got any idea which players we may target?
14 Jul 2012 12:40:56
Hi I have just watched goal rush 2011/2012 for Liverpool andabout half of the goals are set up it gone throu Adam ! Do you think BR will sell him ? Also who do you think Liverpool will sign next
Thanks reddy
Adam has an instict for scoring and creating chances, but is poor defensively. Which is why he should be played further up. Hes not the rubbish player people are making out
14 Jul 2012 12:19:37
I've never seen borini play so can't pass judgement on him. Two things do worry me though. The bloke in the pictures on the lfc website having the medical looks nothing like the various pictures and video I have seen of him. Are the club sure they have the right bloke? Also from the first picture he seems to have feet like side show bob. I can't see him getting round the picture quickly with those big buggers on the end of his legs
Starscream
Yeah, those medical pictures are always funny with the doc in the designer suit...
Hk
I think that bloke in the video you are talking about is the club doctor.
JRG
14 Jul 2012 12:31:09
Just heard off a source from city that if Tevez agrees to join lfc he is ours. Also could consider going back to utd. Nothing certain just what iv heard.
Name that source! or make something up quickly - oh! you have already done that.
14 Jul 2012 12:26:39
Hi Edds!
Do you think the statement from Holtby is a cry to us or Arsenal to go get him?
Would be a good buy and give downing good competition down his side
Please enlighten me on his situtation?
Cheers Possitively Red {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers.}
14 Jul 2012 12:23:29
FSG and BR, got off your arses and go an make atleast an attempt to sign Gaston Ramirez for god sake. If you want to win the fans 100% and have a chance of turning this club around you will have to atleast try to make signings like this.
The aim of BR is not to win the fans, that will happen anyway, especially if he builds a side that is good to watch and actually wins games. One aim must be to win at least 20 more points than last year just in home games.
John B
14 Jul 2012 12:21:57
The Anfield club are still interested in Bologna's Gaston Ramirez as talks continue with agent D'Ippolito. Fee is stalling deal
source:sport trend
14 Jul 2012 11:59:21
Got some important news to share. Ive narrowed down our transfer targets and Messi,Ronaldo,Xavi, Iniesta wont be signing......
14 Jul 2012 11:50:12
Any chance downing is going..hes ubbish
14 Jul 2012 11:47:20
I can't help but hold a grudge against hat-headed Sam 'Allardiche'. He thought he was the bees knees mouthing off against our manager and the club. I suggest he shuts his gob and lay off our players. West Ham are a great club with a divvy in charge.
DaveyBootle {Ed002's Note - I rather think Maiga will complete his move so you don't need to worry about the nasty man coming for the Liverpool players.}
Ed002 That was good>>>> made me laugh!
jonnybarnes89-90
p.s Allardyce is a divvy though... cant get my head around him being a bruising defender in his playing career and then crying like a biatch when Rafa had a go at him. baby.
14 Jul 2012 11:44:19
with borini coming in would you expect carroll to be moving out cheers {Ed002's Note - Please read the posts.}
14 Jul 2012 11:31:22
Downing to Fulham
14 Jul 2012 11:31:18
Aaron Lennon might be going to liverpool after maxi has left the club as Lennon plays the way Rodgers has his tactics
Yes messi likes the way rodgers plays as well and he fits perfectly in his tactic system he must surely going to Liverpool
Aaron lennon will not fit into our new 4-3-3,
dito theo walcott,also downing will not suit, anyone with chalk on their boots you can rule out.maxi would have fit the bill,but could not be convinced to stay.
red jay
Yip, Sinclair & Dyer def were not wingers in BR's team at Swansea last year...
Think a bit man!
14 Jul 2012 11:34:43
Ed's I have to say that I am totally addicted to this site, I must log on between 10 - 15 times at least each day. I'd like to thank you all for your replies to the hundreds of questions and queries posted on here each day. I'd also like to add a special note of thanks to Macca whose posts are a massive reason for me visiting each day too. His undoubted inside information is fantastic to be able to read from time to time and I for one am totally appreciative. For all those doubters can I just say that I'm sure he doesn't have to come on here and post just to get his kicks so lay off with the negativity and keep it real!
Loving the anticipation of the new Brendan Rodgers era. Also the Borini signing is a real plus for me too, I'm sure he will be a big hit at Anfield and will surely score plenty of goals in the new look LFC as well as bring out the best in Suarez too.
Forever Red.
Village
14 Jul 2012 11:23:42
Adam Johnson
Paul Allen
Clint Dempsey
100% will join Liverpool fc
Carroll will stay!
Cole and Aquilani will move on.
Adam and downing?? BR will listen to offers.
RobJ
{Ed002's Note - I assume you mean Joe Allen.}
Is Paul Allen making a comeback? I'm not sure if he'd fit into FSGs player profile?!
14 Jul 2012 11:04:21
Hear me out here lads,
IF and I mean IF Aquilani stays would it not be in his own best interest to play his balls off to show off his skills?
Football is swings and roundabouts, he wants a new club we need a creative mid so why not put your head down pull up your socks and put in a good season! Thus helping us out and allowing him to show himself off!
Just my take but he can play when he's arsed!
Thoughts lads?
Iano
Waste of space. Get rid
Chuck Norris
If Brendan Rodgers wants him then that will do me. Good player but if he does stay he has to win the fans over.... having said that judging by some of the shower we get on here that should take ohhh about 3 games!
We are a fickle bunch
jonnybarnes89-90
I see football more as slides and see-saws....JS
Quite simple
Out: Kuyt, Maxi, Pacheco, Aquagirl, Bellamy, Downing, Spearing, Doni, Carroll, Cole, Adam, Aurelio, Wilson, Jones, Carragher
In: Borini, Allen, Ramirez, Dempsey.
Squad:
GK: Reina, Gulacsi
RB: Johnson, Flanagan
LB: Enrique, Robinson
CD: Agger, Skrtel, Coates
DM: Lucas, Coady
CM: Allen*, Henderson, Shelv
AM: Gerrard, Suso, Adorjan
LF: Suarez, Sterling
RF: Ramirez*, Silva
CF: Borini*, Dempsey*, Morgan
15 out, 4 in, give the youngsters a chance, prob spend no money (nett), save huge wages and we have a better squad. If only.... ;-)
Yeah ok destory the squad and leaving only the first team..that makes sense?
Poster above should be our new Director of Football! Perfect out list and great in's. I would only add a versatile LB/LM like Vargas (as I dont think Robinson is ready physically).
14 Jul 2012 11:07:48
Macca, is there still interest in munian or is he far off our radar now please.
I think the Muniain interest has come from the fans and not the club.
14 Jul 2012 10:57:56
Hey Ed's
Seen as Afellay has been out injured and it would leave clubs unable to measure his recovery is there a chance we could get him for a lower price? than the price he would normally cost for regular football and performances? the big question then i suppose is the risk of him not being 100% {Ed002's Note - Barcelona will have a price in mind.}
We don't seem to be after wingers. Can't understand it either.
We still could be after wingers. Rodgers did use wingers at Swansea, Dyer and Sinclair.
Yeah, but at LFC we must have a policy of not buying wingers then! (Downing doesn't count as he is useless).
Wingers play on the wing. Swansea didn't use wingers. Those players played as forwards. There is a BIG difference.
Stop going on about wingers - It's over.
If you want pace and skill - okay, but don't look for a winger. We have a winger in Downing, it remains to be seen if he will adjust to Rodgers side - because he's a winger - and Rodgers doesn't use wingers.
If he can adapt to a new position in the front 3 - he could play a role though. Tahe Pedro at Barca for example - all the attributes to be a good winger - but he has adapted to fit a front 3.
If you're waiting on someone to run down the wing pinging crosses for Big Andy - it'll be largely the role of the full-backs to provide such width - as with Barca & Spain.
BJH YNWA (sorry - it's the last time I'll say this.)
14 Jul 2012 10:57:13
morning all, eds just wanna get you view on Raheem Sterling do you think BR will make him a part of his plan and structure going forward this season, we all know he's only young still but this kid has talent and the 5-10mins he got from kenny at the end of a few games last season seemed to put the willies up a few defender when he was running at them.
P. {Ed002's Note - I am sure that he will.}
Rodgers has already stated that if your good enough you're old enough.
Yip, so going by that Sterling & Suso will start. Coady, Morgan & Silva on the bench.
Lovely isnt it you genius
14 Jul 2012 10:55:57
Eds, how does a 29 year old American in Dempsey fit in to our future plans? We've dismissed the chance of signing younger players than him as they didn't fit into the preffered age bracket. Double standards IMO. {Ed002's Note - I have no idea who was dismissed as not fitting in to the age bracket or any double standards.}
The idea is to play dempsey left,borini centre and suarez right in a 4-3-3.goalkeeper and back 4 is obvious, expect gerard and lucas to fill 2 of the 3 cm positions.
red jay
14 Jul 2012 10:52:39
why the hell would AC want to go to west ham or fulham,newcastle maybe, but i would hope BR gives him a season at least
He is on his way judging from BR's comments.
You mean the comment that rodgers said every player has a chance to prove themself during pre-season?
He said he would like to keep Maxi (and didn't beat around the bush with the answer)
same with Suarez
then with Bellamy and Carroll he said that he will asses them and did not say he wanted either of them to stay...
No I mean how he is bigging up everyone (even Spearing) but was pretty luke warm with Carroll....
14 Jul 2012 10:43:52
Allen will be our next signing, probably late monday afternoon, whilst Dempsey will be shortly after.. tues/weds.. Carroll WILL be moving on.. lso id like to add that i think Carroll leaving will be the best thing the clubs done in a while.. he's terrible.. i hate seeing posts saying they wish he wouldnt leave what the hell did he do for us all last season.. doesnt deserve the liverpool shirt the lazy, lanky.....
If they do both come, Dempsey will be long before Allen mate. Can see the Allen thing being a long drawn out saga.
Good to see we have supporters backing our players - Carroll WILL STAY, end of.
John B
I seem to remember sitting in Wembely last year watching Carroll score against the blue noses and then not to long after come on in an FA cup final and take the game by the scruff of the neck, scoring a goal and then having one cleared off the line (or was it over ed 002?)
He was a laboured lump at the beginning but came along way through out the season. He deserves another season with us for sure. {Ed002's Note - You make it sound like I care about football results. It is simply a game.}
I know your not to worried ed, its just that you follow Chelsea and was pulling your pud a little. {Ed002's Note - I have no idea what my "pud" is, but I normally charge for pulling it.}
14 Jul 2012 10:43:04
On the 14th January (yes I just checked) I asked why
we didn't sign Clint Dempsey - I made the point that he would be perfect for us. One person agreed and one person disagreed. That was the end of it
Towards the end of the season a few jumped on the Dempsey bandwagon and now the new management at the club have 'seen the light'.
Just on here to let you all know what wonderful foresight I have
Puzzled
If we get Dempsey it would actually be typical Pool. He has been a decent player for years then we buy when he is passed his best. Same with Maxi, Morientes and plenty others
23 goals in one season is obviously past his best then?!
No was his best. He will go down hill now as his legs go.
14 Jul 2012 10:38:08
Newcastle fan here... I for one would love it if the rumours are true and big AC is coming home for 10 mil. In my humble opinion Liverpool never really put any quality into the box for the big man, (only when stevie G came back from injury). Would be really happy if the wor Andy came home for 10 mil... a steal.
£10 mil?! I'd rather keep him than let him go for that pittance.
Tell u what, Carroll and 5mil for Cabaye & Ben Arfa? (and we'll thow in Henderson and Downing for free).
Actually, how about: Cisse, Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Tiote & Santon for: Carroll, Henderson, Downing, Spearing and Enrique (yes I don't rate him at all) and 15m?
Wow, how did NUFC get a better team than ours. Oh wait, we bought there rubbish at exorbetent prices...
14 Jul 2012 10:29:31
Any truth in the reports that Aqua's agent is insisting he will remain at Liverpool this season?
Personally I'd like to see him stay as I think he would fit in well with Rodgers style of play.
SMC {Ed002's Note - Insisting? No.}
Didn't his agent say the same thing last summer?
14 Jul 2012 10:37:08
rise above it macca ur better than that mate! keep us posted!
14 Jul 2012 11:34:02
just want to say always going to get the odd crank giving you all loads of **** but the vast majority of us really do appreciate the work you and Macca do. YNWA
Royzered
14 Jul 2012 12:07:40
Macca some people can not be pleased, That person was either a child thinking he is billy big balls, A fan of another team or just a complete fool who is not getting any lovin, Personally I get excited when you mention players linked with LFC but as 99.9% of us fans know things happen that either make or break negotiations, So keep your chin up mate we REALLY DO appreciate your info
MJ
14 Jul 2012 12:02:16
Alright Macca, dont let them get to you. They are pre pubecent trolls that have nothing better to do with their lives.
The real reds on here appreciate what you do and I for one would like to thank you for any snippets you can give us!
Chin up dude
Crooky
YNWA
14 Jul 2012 12:09:16
Just a qucik post to say thanks to the Eds & Macca for the hard work on this site. Keep up the good work YNWA
LeeWils
14 Jul 2012 10:36:50
Not sure what has been said to make macca react this way but he is without doubt the only reliable source on here. He revealed Coates was signing when nobody else had even heard of him, stuck to guns re Rodgers even when Rodgers turned down the approach and called boring when everyone else was focused on Ramirez.
In my opinion he is the most reliable source on the web when it comes to lfc rumours and clearly has connections.
We should appreciate he takes the time to share the info. I certainly do.
My only ever rumour I posted was re Defoe in January. It came from a good source and the approach turned out to be true a couple of months later. Because the deal didn't go through however I was slated by a few.
Too many ball bags on this sites too quick to criticise
long live macca!
Steve b
14 Jul 2012 11:26:41
Ed's I have to say that I am totally addicted to this site, I must log on between 10 - 15 times at least each day. I'd like to thank you all for your replies to the hundreds of questions and queries posted on here each day. I'd also like to add a special note of thanks to Macca whose posts are a massive reason for me visiting each day too. His undoubted inside information is fantastic to be able to read from time to time and I for one am totally appreciative. For all those doubters can I just say that I'm sure he doesn't have to come on here and post just to get his kicks so lay off with the negativity and keep it real!
Loving the anticipation of the new Brendan Rodgers era. Also the Borini signing is a real plus for me too, I'm sure he will be a big hit at Anfield and will surely score plenty of goals in the new look LFC as well as bring out the best in Suarez too.
Forever Red.
Village
14 Jul 2012 11:26:56
Please Macca, please, don't let a complete tool sicken your happiness. YOUR A LEGEND ON THIS SITE. First thing i do when I waken every single morning, is come straight onto this site and check for any comments, FROM YOU... so, don't, PLEASE, DON'T, let some knob jockey piss you off, they are beneath you. Remember... "When you walk, through the storm, hold your head up high"
Stevie.
14 Jul 2012 11:27:11
keep yer head up Macca ... walk through the storm
14 Jul 2012 11:32:03
Macca was right again. i don't know why people still question him, since I have been reading he has been right about Coates, Bellamy, the sackings, Rodgers and now Borini, and probably much more that i am forgetting. I know most people appreciate what he does but it is just weird that some people still give him grief.
Anyway, I am made up with Borini and would love it if Dempsey and Allen joined, especially Allen. I don't believe we would need to get any more players after this, we would just need to ship a few out, like Spearing/ Adam, Aquilani and Cole.
Thanks Macca and the Eds!
14 Jul 2012 11:32:20
Macca, i love you fella.. ignore the kids mate
14 Jul 2012 11:33:01
Macca, thanx for all your 100% accurate info, the fact the as you rightly put it people on here can't seem to grasp that things can easily change is beyond my explanation, all I can say is don't be disheartened you alone are the only reason I'm ever on this site.
how it's even still being discussed after the years you've been posting good info is laughable and eds really shouldn't be posting it, it must be some ed new to the site that doesn't have a clue! Keep up the good work Macca (and eds deserve a medal for having to sift through all the garbage to put it politely)
LG (sorry for going on bit of a rant)
14 Jul 2012 10:33:41
morning ed great work on hear keep it up,ed now that kuyt and maxi are gone.did we get a fee for them ?.im very happy with the 1st player too come in,in the shape of borini and only 21 good stuff. welcome lad walk on cant wait too see you play for us.right ed who do you think is next in the door,i think we should look at this boy destro from genoa his 21 put the ball in the back of the net 13 times in 30 games last year,champions juventus an inter milan sniffing him,8m would bag him hope we have a shot at him.plus im hoping we keep BIG ANDY CARROLL.cheer's ed up the red's.jay essex red for life red till dead. {Ed002's Note - There was a small fee (less than £1M) for Kuyt. For Maxi I have not heard anything of a fee or other settlement as of yet.}
14 Jul 2012 10:32:12
Morning eds fellow reds. To the legend that's macca ,cheers psv here I took a bit of a battering yesterday too ,but we have broad shoulders mate we can take it .must be weather getting everyone down . Your still the top man .cheers psv
14 Jul 2012 10:31:40
Ed,002 would fabio borini be considered as a home grown player under the premier league rules considering he had spent 3 years at england before being 21 ?
and who amongst dempsey,allen,afellay & ramirez do u think is most likely to sign b4 our US tour ? {Ed002's Note - Borini should count - it is easy enough to check. Dempsey perhaps.}
I was just gonna ask the same thing - he should certainly be HG. (I think he signed for Chelsea at 16). Another plus - and makes the price seem even more of a bargain!
BJH YNWA
14 Jul 2012 10:27:02
I think its pathetic people being funny with Macca, he has had all the scoops first!
Even the ones that didn't happen you can see through the press they broke down!
Keep up the good work and posting Macca! Excellent work to the Eds as well.
Souness
Im tired of people giving out about people who are giving out! Were in cyberspace where every fool has an opinion. Lets just ignore them.
14 Jul 2012 10:26:21
well done brendon! i for one am delighted we have signed borini! he wants to play for my beloved liverpool and didnt hold us for ransom for obsene wages! i dont no if alot of you readers no but we havent got city or chelski money so we have to buy players on a budjet and i personally think brendons done a great job at getting him for that price! i for one dont care who we buy as long as at the end of 90 mins they are nearly dying on the pitch! thers too many players already at the club that all they think bout is what to spend their wages on! passion and commitment is all i ask for the privilage of wearing the lpool crest!
macca ignore the cretins that give you crap your doin a great job aswell as all the eds! i love this site keep it up an let more crazy romours keep rolling in, by the way when is messi an xavi arriving for there medical?? lol
gary lfc4eva
14 Jul 2012 10:23:51
Must admit I wasn't overly enamoured when news first broke we were looking at Borini.
That said, I think he comes across determined, level-headed and sincere in his first interview, which is no mean thing in its own.
If that is a true reflection of the character of the man, I am far more confident that he will have an early positive impact and could develop into a very good player for us, given the proper support of the club and fans.
The Squirrel
14 Jul 2012 10:20:47
Heard from a very good source we are close to signing Joe Allen from Swansea.
I heard it from a good source as well, Macca.
Siggle
14 Jul 2012 10:20:32
Gents,
Sneidjer plays for Inter not AC
Ronaldo plays for Real NOT Athletico!
Tommy Walsh
14 Jul 2012 10:20:31
Hi fellow reds
I belive all the frustrations on this site is a result of peoples high hopes for our club which is actually a good thing.
But lets all use theese high hopes in a positive way instead and support the things that happends.
I think we are going back to the top and I can't whait for the season to get started.
Finaly I would like to send a big thanks to the Ed's and Macca for their hard work and I would like to see people being a little bit more thankfull for the work they put in to this.
Thomas from Denmark
14 Jul 2012 10:18:07
Borini looks like a very good signing. Only 21, a full italian international, has pace, is a good finisher and has a very good work ethic. BR knows him inside out having had him as a youth player at scumville and then on loan at the swans. He knows BRs system too. This has all the hallmarks if being a great acquisition. Had he been Englush he would have cost £20m+. Reality Red
14 Jul 2012 10:16:55
hi eds and macca, ive not been on for ages have just chose to read the posts. however have noticed lately lots of moaning about who were gonna sign, or in fact who we just signed. i can understand the way macca feels i for one when i first used this site didnt believe macca predictions but that changed very quickly. one thing i want to say firstly is we are not a money bag club where we throw money at players in order to sign them ie chelsea or city, we seem to not only have owners that are willing to spend money but are sensible enough to keep the club afloat. i cannot say which in updating anfield or building a new stadium would be right i choose to accept the owners decisions on that. i have supported lfc for over 40 years and seen them win and lose but all my life i have given support to the manager regardless of who he was or is. now i dont claim to be in the know or have contacts so i follow this site for info and macca and the eds do a brill job in keeping most of us informed and happy. ok so weve just signed borini well i have to admit i know nothing of the guy,(he might not be a torres or rooney or another high profile striker) but i for one will be happy when he puts the ball in the net, again if we sign dempsey im happy with that. infact should BR sign players that actually want to play for the shirt not the money then i dont care who they are just as long as they bust a gut on the pitch. so all those that just want high profile signings or marquee signings and just want to bitch about who we get or who were after if you dont agree with them go support a team like chelsea or city. give BR a chance.right eds and macca thats my rant over now please would you answer a question for me? we have now lost aurelio, maxi, kuyt, and possibly bellars, do you know or see us moving to replace any of them. thankyou
billy {Ed002's Note - I would expect that incoming players such as Borini and probably Dempsey would go some way toward supporting the forward line. With the likes of Robinson coming through, perhaps sufficient cover exists at left back. Sterling will see more game time this season as he gets older and more experienced - so I think he could do well.}
14 Jul 2012 10:14:55
Dear Eds
I may be accused of being lazy he, but can any of you remember the last time 2 clubs were involved in an out and out player swap? I am struggling to see why so many posters keep suggesting player swaps when it seems so rare? Much appreciated
From a huge Pool fan in South Africa {Ed002's Note - You are correct that straight exchanges are rare, most involve other considerations.}
Liverpool's last real player swap might have been Paletta for Insua (but not sure if it were a swap or just two separate deals that linked)
14 Jul 2012 10:14:12
What's the buzz round Anfield with Rodgers first training sessions etc ?
Positive reports so far.
Training is less fitness oriented but more possession emphasis, which I think is fair to say builds on KDs work.
I know we clearly suffered with finishing and results last season but some of the football we played was the best I've seen for a long while.
The Squirrel
Shelvey and Sterling have been really positive about it in interviews - lots of focus on passing and football and less focus on long distance runs!
Professor Frank
14 Jul 2012 10:14:05
I no not the best place to judge a players ability but been watching clips of borini on you tube and it seems he certainly can find the bk of the net and alot r just popping up in the right place at the right time just what we were lacking last season!
YNWAmanc
14 Jul 2012 10:13:48
macca i still love you
you are a legend me you and ed2 should go out on a date sometime xxxx YNWA(i hope we get allen and sturidge and dempsey)
majestic69 {Ed002's Note - Hey, I'm up for it. How about you Macca?}
Ed2 has agreed ,tick tock tick tock macca we are waiting, xx
majestic69
Who could turn down a date with a name like that ???
14 Jul 2012 10:06:29
Hey Eds,
Say if Big Andy were to leave (which I think he won't) , who would you say is our most likely replacement for him?? Negredo maybe?? Or Arnautovich from Werder Bremen?? Who could it be?? :/
Cheers YNWA
14 Jul 2012 10:03:37
I don't know about Dempsey, I'm really sceptic, he'll be 30 next year, so he will play as I have the fealing maximum 2 years for us...
maybe I'm wrong, but I'd rather that Brendan buys someon younger
and if carroll is sold, he'll have more pounds to spend on quality..
pls reply
cheers Luka {Ed002's Note - Perhaps if he plays well for two years and Liverpool get back in to the CL they can generate the money to buy younger and better.}
Sceptic? You want to see a doctor about that Luka !
Why does everyone think if a player hits 30 thats it for him i wouldnt start thinking like that till at least 35 but a lot of players still have plenty to offer as a squad player even after that.
14 Jul 2012 09:50:22
I really apreciate the hard work that you eds do I don't understand the abuse that you get along with Macca it's quite sad really. Most of the posters on here will agree we don't want you to give up on running this site because to be honest this site is awesome and if there was anyway I could show my appreciation in another way I would. I think you should do a "sign up" format and you can only post if you are a member, any abuse and your gone, I know you guys have thought of it but I think it needs to be done to bring the harmony back for the REAL fans/supporters. Ed001 ed002 ed005 ed006 ed0016 ed0022 ed0049 ed0029 all the eds that run this site, Macca, all the regular posters that leave a name, your all fantastic for this site! I love you all! YNWA.
Square tomato
The worst thing about the Internet in general is that no-one is really accountable for what they post. This site is pretty tame when you read the comments left by people on YouTube, Fakebook, etc. if you're not going to register posters in some way, the moronic muddyfunsters will inevitably get to have their say. The official Liverpool site forums are pretty clean (and probably over-regulated). I'm not trying to tell the Eds how to run this site......it just seems to me that abusive f'ckw'ts are a symptom of lack of accountability. A big thanks to Eds and regular posters for putting up with it.
cozinoz
14 Jul 2012 09:22:07
Great 1st signing :)
14 Jul 2012 09:18:55
Expect Liverpool to push through the Dempsey signing £7.3m approximately. 2 signings before we go on the tour. Dempsey represents good marketing for the warrior brand also he's a good quality experienced premier player. I think this will prove to be Rodgers best acquisition this summer. Kevo-huyton
14 Jul 2012 09:10:57
why are my posts not being shown? thats three now.
harry h
{Ed002's Note - I have not cut any signed Harry H.}
14 Jul 2012 08:55:05
We should buy Luik de Jong or pappas cisse because they would bang in goals with Suarez. Please reply. {Ed002's Note - Interest in De Jong appears to have waned. Cisse will be miffed with NU right now but probably not enough to leave.}
I dont think he would leave to go to Liverpool, no offence but it would be a step backwards for him right now. Maybe if BR can get you playing like Swansea, which to be fair in the first two thirds of the pitch they looked class, but were always lacking in the final third (maybe suarez can change that type of play?), and IF liverpool finsih in the top 4, which i think will be tough, then maybe, maybe if you offer say 35 mil, which seems to be the going rate he may join you :p
Not strictly LFC related, but Ed002- could you expound upon Cisse being miffed at NUFC? Not sure why this would be?
RDL {Ed002's Note - They blocked him going to play at the Olympic Games.}
Ah- thanks for the response, Ed002. As always, much appreciated!
14 Jul 2012 07:53:46
I don't think anfield719 is having a pop macca, not how I read it. I think it's fair to say 99.99% believe everything you type on here and really appreciate it.
Djjj
It was the reply after his original post that annoyed Macca I think.
14 Jul 2012 07:09:00
hi eds...what are the chances of aqua man staying at anfield?? Now his agent has also declared that he will be a liverpool player next season... As you have already said he doesn't want to be in england, will the signing of borini help him to get settle? If we can keep him and get the best out of him, he will be perfect in BR style of play..What do you think eds?? {Ed002's Note - I think he would leave and Liverpool would sell if the chance arose.}
14 Jul 2012 07:05:45
So what is going to happen to Aquilani? His agent has said that he is staying at Anfield but that is nothing new as his agent is the biggest bullsh**ter in the world. Just shows what a person Aquilani is to stick with Zavaglia. I personally think Rodgers will let him go.
What makes me laugh is that no club wants Aquilani. Juve kicked him out and Milan shafted us with him too. They will only take him if they can have him for free. What a joke that we ended up letting Alonso go to Real and paid 17mil for this injury prone hissy fit player and lets not forget how Rafa wanting to bring in Barry. Barry cant even polish Hendersons shoes...
If Aquilani does stay then I would expect him to take of the pink dress he has been wearing all along and grow a pair and actually show some respect for the red shirt. Doubt he will last a full season in the EPL though. He is too brittle plus his eyes are to close to each other.
Red4life
14 Jul 2012 06:51:32
Eds, we've already got FB & if we get Dempsey then we can play 4-3-3 with Suarez in the centre, Borini on the right & Dempsey on the left. So, if we do get Dempsey then will there be any need to get AJ/Sturridge? I think they'll cost a lot of money & we should look to spend as less as possible. It'll take some time for us to get to the CL. Till then I think we should look to spend less as we're not getting the CL money.
SUMON VAI
WTF! It seems u have never watched either Suarez n Borini play. Swap their goddamn positions.
Indian Buzzer
14 Jul 2012 05:00:28
Hi eds
How can I keep up with a previous conversation ie from the day before? I am using an iPad which I understand doesn't support the search function but is this the same as a banter conversation?
Cheers bobbo75
Oh and keep up the good work {Ed002's Note - It will be on the Banter 2 or Banter 3 page.}
14 Jul 2012 02:48:53
I know that he is unlikely to stay, but if he does do you believe Aquilani would make it in the league? I think he is technically good but think he may not be able to cope with the physical side of the game or be able to fight for the team when necessary? Just curious want him gone myself
14 Jul 2012 02:33:15
Hi Eds, do yo think backup for Lucas could be sourced from the youth players as in a defender or midfielder who has the ability to effectively fill that role like Javi Martínez can for Bilbao. Thanks, Fran {Ed002's Note - Spearing, Gerrard?}
14 Jul 2012 00:09:26
Hi Eds, can you provide a calculated prediction as to how much more transfer activity there will be at Liverpool. Roughly how many more players do you expect us to bring in and in which positions? Also, any more outs apart from Maxi?
Personally, I think Sturridge, Afellay, and a really good holding midfielder would finish things off nicely, but expect Dempsey instead, which wouldn't be so bad.
13 Jul 2012 23:54:40
hi eds we all agreed liverpool needed to strengthen in attack, rw and maybe dm (just cover) do you know of any possible targets for rw and dm? {Ed002's Note - Unconfirmed rumours persist regarding Denisov and there may still be interest in Victor Moses.}
14 Jul 2012 09:40:44
hey ed. since borini's signed the rumours about liverpool have gone quiet. any more signings on the way? dempsey, ramirez afellay? heard adam, spearing will be sold. anyone interested in buying downing? {Ed002's Note - I have noticed how quiet it has been since yeasterday evening.}
14 Jul 2012 09:29:43
I'm hearing a lot of negativity toward Rodgers regarding the andy Carroll saga. In my opinion we can't sell Carroll right now because of the simple fact he's not worth enough probably 12-15m. It depends on how Rodgers views him if he jus thinks he's poor and wants rid the a loan makes sense as Carroll gets game time and hopefully bags a few goals to bump up his price tag. On the other hand Rodgers mite see some potential in Carroll but can't offer him the game time to improve a possibility for me would be villa to work with lambert to improve him I would prefer not to ssend him to west ham unless it was with the intentions of selling him but I think people should trust Rodgers Kevo-huyton
14 Jul 2012 08:54:35
I have been reading some of the posts lately and have a suggestion ( again )
I totally agree with making the site a 'members only' site for POSTING comments. That way genuine supporters will only post, the EDs dont get any grief from the trolls and even though the trolls can read the posts, they cant actually post!
Also it stops sending out the wrong messages to 'normal' people and even our players who visit the site. Yes we may disagree with each on certain points and yes there will still be some negative posts, but at least the posts will be respectful and the genuine comments of people we know to be real supporters....OR THEY ARE OFF THE SITE !!
Simples !
Personally I would be more than happy to pay a small fee for registering, this site is by far and away the finest Liverpool Rumours site on the world internet and its addictive.
More recently I have not posted due to the high amount of troll posts, which is sad...
Cmon ED 001 you know it makes sense, do it before someone else comes up with the equivalent ?
Tel 1949
Sadly I agree Tel mate. It is the only way to make people responsible for what they post.
JRG
I totally agree Tel 1949 mate, a small number of trolls are ruining the site for everyone else and pissing off the Eds & Macca, who are doing trojan work.membership would be free, you could log in using your email/username and password in order to post
I agree with you about troll posts,the amount of anonymous keyboard warriors is getting to the point of ridiculous.
Also, just a thought Eds, and I know there might be some legal stuff involved, if it was turned into a membership site, fans could contact each other,meet up at matches, swap tickets if they cant go to matches etc.
I have to say Ed001 this best LFC rumour website,lets make it untouchable.
R_R
Even if somebody did come up with a simalar web design i still know for 1 hundred percnt this site is were my loyalty is at and as for paying a small fee on your own then maby edd 001 can charge you and i know there is alot of bad post but it makes the site a banter site without the bad post i think it would get abit less interesting when somebody makes a bad post you always get an equally good post i read a post yday about us sign borini from an evrton fan fink it was tel 1949 replied something along the lines of you signed pinearr for 2 mill let him go on a free an are now trying to sign him back for 5 mill. To me we need the bad post alryt not some really bad post but just remember without rain we would not enjoy the sun if we dident feel sad then we would not feel happy we need the bad post as much as it kills me to say it haha bring on the new season already by the way who does edd001 support. STEMLOCC1 {Ed002's Note - Ed001 is a Northampton Town supporter.}
Completely agree, Tel 1949 there will be a couple of trolls and sabatoeurs but a heck of a lot fewer than there are now... Which has deterred my attention from the site for many weeks, tough choice for the eds I know, especially after years of tremendous hard work...
but, it's about the future not the past...
cheers Ed's 01 & 02 and all the other eds, Macca and genuine contributors, truly valued!
Suffolkn'red Red
I agree although it saddens me to think that this sort of reaction is what these trolls are looking for. They crave the attention and discussing it/changing site protocol is exactly what they want.
Making a 'members only' site, although a legit response may not even work, if these 'lame anonymous *o*********' (let this forever be there collective noun) search the site for any small degree of inconsistency a couple of quid is not gonna do jack.
I will more than willing to sign up though.
My suggestion for the time being would to encourage the visitors of the site who do not post regularly to post more often and join in with more positive/constructive banter and to enforce tighter regulations so ultimately we outnumber and out voice them.
With all due respect mate, not posting because of them, is what they want and is detrimental to the cause.
In the end I just pity these one dimensional creatures.
Go on, I see you troll, disagree. I know you want to. U mad bro?
Davey Liver
I'd pay to use this site!! A squid a month!! Think of the Christmas meal the eds could have!!
FowlerisGod {Ed002's Note - It is not your money we want - just a sample of your DNA and NI number.}
14 Jul 2012 08:50:09
macca, keep it comin lad.
iv been saying for a while now that this site has a number of dickheads that have no clue about football, i asked the eds too ban all the so called supporters that just come on here and moan about our club.... didnt happen. if your not happy about being a liverpool supporter, go somewhere else.
harry h
14 Jul 2012 08:50:04
Who's next for the Anfield exit?
Jones
Doni
Spearing
Adam
Downing
Cole
Aquilani
Personally I think it would be a great piece of business to get rid of the lot. Save £m in wages, sign the players we need and promote the good young players we have in waiting
AK47
14 Jul 2012 08:49:19
cant believe some tools are giving macca grief after all the info he gives us these people should be banned and need to man up and stop hiding behind their keyboards abusing people.
RED KENNY
14 Jul 2012 08:47:42
Big news out of Spain suggesting that Sami Khedira will play for Liverpool in the upcoming season. The Red's have reportedly given Real Madrid 25 million pounds for the German. {Ed002's Note - It is looking like Khedira will become available if Modric completes his move to Real Madrid. If he does, there will be interest from Bayern Munich and possibly from Manchester United and even Spurs if Moutinho is not viable.}
14 Jul 2012 08:43:56
To macca
plz keep us updated on rumours as most us real fans appreciate it and dont listen to the odd moaning gits as your views and ed02 comments are the first thing i look for on this site and i would like to thank you and all the
eds for your continued hard work and i look forward to
the rumours and comments in the future. Also can i ask who you think will most propaly step up from the reserves to first team this year hope its suso.
Thanks again runcorn pete
14 Jul 2012 08:40:00
Hi eds.
Just wanted to ask (if i may) where you get your info from. I'm not asking who of course but did most of you play football fairly seriously or involved with background staff etc.
I remember one of you saying most of you had a couple of good sources (inside the game etc) which you must do as you often get things right and know when something is BS, but just wondered if you played and thats how you got your sources?
gareth {Ed002's Note - It varies Ed to Ed.}
How about you Ed02? Did you play football at quite good level?
gareth {Ed002's Note - Football (soccer) was not played much in America when I was a kid. Girls would play it. There was the North American Soccer League but there were no teams in the Bay Area.}
Another question - do all Eds know each other personally? {Ed002's Note - No. A few have met up I understand.}
14 Jul 2012 08:36:17
I know why don't your club buy the DeLorean so you can all go back to the 80's instead of still pretending to live in it in 2012!!
You could save lots of money on stupid transfers!
Tree Blue
Come back when you've won 5 european cups you sad loser. How pathetic to come onto other teams sites!!
I like the comedian better know as Tree Blue - he talks about the 80's, but if memory serves me correct the last time anything blue on Merseyside celebrated a game that will be written down in " History " was 1995. I also seem to recall, it doesn't take much, as far as history goes of course in 2012 LFC added another trophy to their already overloaded cabinet.
So please Tree Blue, worry about the " in Moyes we trust " team, I wonder what you trust in, could it be " I trust we will never win another tropy ". Let us worry about stupid transfers, to me the future for our side is fairly bright, under Moyes, it has been pretty dim on the blue side of Merseyside.
John B
I know, why dont you go and follow your own team, instead of trolling away on here?
BigBadBen
A trophy!! Already forgot about that worthless cup! 110m really worth it...
What should we do get rid of our managers all the time?
Or we could get Howard Kendall back like you did with Comedy Kenny cos that worked out......
14 Jul 2012 08:15:31
Eds I know it's early and nothin to do with transfers... Here's a song for fable borini.
Sing it to the tune like the Mancini song goes..
Fabio borini he scores the goals for the reds,
He celebrates like the warrior he is
We sing and chant our strikers name
Borini ooo borni ooo borini ooo
go and win us the game.
What u think trust me catchy..
(Paul mcnarry) belfast
14 Jul 2012 08:08:54
Eds.. Do u think that our apparent 3 or 4 signings could turn into a possible 5 or 6 if we sell say carroll aswell as the others we expect to go..? Cheers {Ed002's Note - Yes, I suspect it would. However there is much expected of players coming through the youth system and they need to move in to the secondary roles (like Kelly and Flanagan did) and chances will come.}
13 Jul 2012 23:54:50
Ed 002...who could have predicted Borini signing for Liverpool? I may disagree about some replies you give but you can't be faulted for being as factual as possible. I don't know you personally but keep up the good work. I'm from Malta but I travel frequently to watch my beloved Liverpool and I must confess this is the site I trust most when it comes to rumours etc.
14 Jul 2012 08:27:08
Message to Macca.
I don,t know how old you are but I am sure that you are old enough to realise that you will never please all of the people all of the time. Some "fans" will doubt everything no matter what evidence there is to support an argument. Some people want us to outbid man city and forget about the repercussions . Just remember that no matter what you say, some idiots will always know better. It,s a fact of life. The majority of us will always support anything to do with Liverpool . Forget the negativity towards you. You need a thicker skin really . Keep up the good work for the sake of us genuine supporters. Cheers.
Robbie.
Couldn't have put it better myself, 99.9% of the crap on here is bulls**t and the one guy who does actually provide snippets of real information gets grief off some mindless idiots. To those idiots I say if you can do better then do so and if not then either stop reading this website or do us all a favour and kindly f***off. Do you know how hard it actually is to get real information out of a modern professional football club? They do their business like they're secret agents so give Macca a break and hope that he/she does decide to keep posting.
Jud.
Macca, couldn't have said it better mate
Cuchulainn's Hounds
14 Jul 2012 07:24:52
Andy carroll and jordan henderson cost more than Ibra and Thiago silva... LOL... {Ed049's Note - Tell me more about their wages.}
14 Jul 2012 07:37:20
To Macca
Don't let them get you down. Your posts are the only thing that get me through the summer!
Keep them coming.
Cheers
SR73
14 Jul 2012 07:26:03
I've heard Borini being compared to Inzaghi. If this is true I'll be thrilled, Inzaghi was one of my favorite players
redkenyan
Let's hope Borini understand the off-side rule better than Inzaghi did!
JRG
14 Jul 2012 07:18:56
Well Macca was right again that's 1 down 2 to go I would love to see Joe Allen and Dempsey happen. Thanks.
Nil Illegitimi Carborundum
The hat.
14 Jul 2012 06:51:44
Hi Ed's. That guy who does the transfer thing on sky sports is saying the Dempsey deal will be done by Monday.
Hopefully!
Just thought I'd spred the joy!
Keep up the good work!
Cheers
The guy from sky has probably got the info from here!!
14 Jul 2012 06:19:46
Just one Borini, score it for me, delicious striker, from italy
(Cornetto advert tune)
14 Jul 2012 05:58:12
Macca, the people who don't believe you are probably new comers to the site. I was sceptical at first admittedly, but after a while I've seen that most of your posts are good sources of info. Obviously you'll not always be right and you will sometimes check back on yourself, it's always going to happen simply because deals can fall through or a different player becomes available.
Because deals will inevitably fall through or not come to fruition and no "itk" will ever be 100% correct 100% of the time, people will naturally doubt your information. You do kind of have to accept this as I feel the only way to end all doubters is to publicly announce who your sources are. This I know you won't do and I understand your reasons.
However, given your name is "Macca" it does lead to suspicion as to who you are. If you're willing to announce, I would love to know! :D
To be fair, in the case of joe Allen all the stuff that are happening currently suggest we won't be signing him (laundrup saying he wants to keep him, the agreeing made between the two clubs and aqualani's agent convinced that he is staying at an field) so on his behalf I can see why people doubt. I think when it comes to dempsy is more the case of not wanting to accept that he's a realistic target for us but knowing that he will most likely be a lfc player soon (basically rejection and that makes them mad). All credit to macca but I kind of hope he's wrong with joe allen because I would love to see aqualani finally doing something at lfc. At the end of the day we all love Liverpool fc and when the season starts it doesn't matter who we sign, we'll all be singing 'you'll never walk alone together' end off :)
14 Jul 2012 05:15:12
Thank you, Maxi.
Even though it often felt like you didn't perhaps get as many games ad you probably deserved, thank you fot all the goals, great touches and intelligent play.
All the best at your new club. You'll never walk alone.
Maxi, Maxi Ridriguez runs diwn the wings for me... :))
Singapore Red
YNW
14 Jul 2012 04:55:45
Sorry for the negativity but why is Dempsey being considered Isnt he almost 30?
Have fsg thrown out the youth policy. I can understand he is American but doesn't make a whole lot of business sense or team success sense as he is probably in the twilight of his career and no resale value. If we are talking 4 to 6 mil then fine but hopefully no more, do you eds have any idea on probable values for him?
Thanks,
Aussie red
Any one remember a player we signed called Mcallister ? Wasn't he over 30 when he signed for us . He repaid us with great goals and there was no sell on fee involved there . I wasn't sure about Dempsy but if others can learn off him and he scores some important goals then I will be happy . Cheers
Guess we shouldn't let Gerrard play anymore then?
Age is literally nothing but a number, everyone is getting hung up on this so called 'policy'. If a player improves our football team, who cares how old they are. Didn't hear everyone complaining about Pirlo running the Italy team in the euros.
Basically it's stupid to try compare a signing of a different generation with one that's about to happen, mcalister isnt dempsy so using it as an example is pointless. (who else thought downing was going to come good but ended up making 0 difference, point being no one saw that coming) but its just as stupid to say he will be a flop without giving him a chance, so let's just see what happens shall we.
Signing one 29yr old doesn't throw out the youth policy
cozinoz
Read the post you clowns! he is asking about the transfer policy of these owners, did they sign those players? did we sign Gerrard. now learn to read or don't bother posting.
Some people are taking the youth policy way to literally . we need experience and goals. i think the actual transfer policy is to build for the future whilst not neglecting the present, something i think arsenal have been accused of.
ri red
23 goals last season may explain why we want him.
The poster who mentioned McAllister - I still remember his thumper of a free kick against everton. Lethal shot!
Cuchulainn's hounds
14 Jul 2012 04:14:33
Question for everyone
Are you happy with the Boroni signing?
Agree or disagree
Cheers Zincho
14 Jul 2012 03:41:01
Right after mentioning the transfer of Borini a Metro article mentioned other targets for Liverpool:
"Liverpool are not stopping there though, and will now turn to other targets, such as Bologna winger Gaston Ramirez and Zenit midfielder Igor Denisov.
The club have been in talks with Bologna over Ramirez for the past two weeks, but are struggling to agree terms on a possible move, leaving the player frustrated.
Yet a move for Zenit enforcer Denisov is a lot closer, with reports in Russia suggesting a £7 million deal could be a matter of days away.
Denisov, a graduate of the Zenit academy setup, has played almost 300 games for the club, but is now seeking a new challenge, having just secured his third league title.
Coach Luciano Spalletti has urged Denisov to stay, but a suitable offer from Liverpool would be difficult to turn down."
No one thought that Borini was coming here until Roma confirmed that Liverpool were in negotiations. Could it be the same thing for Ramirez and Denisov? Just saying.
14 Jul 2012 03:14:59
Maxi - best sign off in a while : ""Before signing for Liverpool, I just saw the club as one of the greatest institutions in football," added Roriguez in his open letter.
"After my time here I can confirm that this is not just a great club, but also a great family.
"I have tried to give everything every day that I was wearing the LFC crest. It has been a great honour to defend this shirt during two and a half years."
Great person
Torres should learn something from how maxi left.
Lil Red
14 Jul 2012 02:21:58
Just a little moan about all the Spearing hate.
I agree he is not the best, most etchnically gifted, fast paced, great finishing player.
However, is works bloody hard and most importantly he plays the short pass and moves. He does no hog the ball or dribble with his head down. He is passionate about the club and gives a damn not only if we win or lose but if he feels he let us down. His style of play is so well suited to the way BR wants out club to play.
People are getting to focused on all these world class players we need, but my impression was, and i may be wrong, but that we are aiming to play a style of play that should mean we do not need messi type individuals but people who can adopt BR vision of how we should play...namely passing often, using triangles, great work rate and when we lost the ball getting it back quickly, which by the way spearing is great at hassling people and being a thorn in the oppositions side.
Don't get me wrong a messi type player would benefit us but i think its more important we do not look at every players as a individual, including the people we are signing. So lets not give them stick but think how they fit into the new model
gareth
He is ok not good enough for a team who wants to win the league but a nice lad who could do a good job for some one else.
I agree, spearing is not fast or technically gifted player but he does work hard. He def does not hog the ball and like to pass....but the other problem. He passed backwards or gives the ball away. No offence but he is not good enough for LFC, simple as. You even said it your self in around about way that he doesn't bring much to the team other than youthful exuberance.
I dont know how i should but this so i dont disrespect Jay, but i dont see him cut in at LFC. He is a fighter but so am i, i mean.. We cant play players becouse of emphati and finnish top 4. Ill say a loan deal to perhaps Swans for a season and thene we can se whats what.
The Rob
Was nt this sort of thing aimed at lucas for two or three years and now he is the lynch pin of our team jay is good enough he just needs experiance and he probably passes the ball back and side ways because he has been told to do so by his manageras far as i am concerned if he wears our shirt he gets my support
14 Jul 2012 02:01:57
Just to say thanks to all Eds and Macca also. I have seen Macca took some stick earlier...some people are just idiots!
People like that loser forget the difference of people like Macca, the Eds and people like myself..who look at various websites and see 3rd hand information that may or may not be true and when we get it right we feel 'in the know,' but just lucky. Macca and co actually do have much better inside info and chose kindly to share it, so props to all of you
gareth
14 Jul 2012 01:30:10
Hey Macca, take it easy. There are trolls all over the internet, don't let them get to you. I am sure most true LFC supporters like myself really appreciate every snippet of info you provide.
Thanks
ChrisE
Don't let them get to you, Macca - there are way more appreciative fans here than trolls. Your info is one of the main reasons I read this site - the real Liverpool fans are hugely grateful for any snippets of info you can offer
cozinoz
14 Jul 2012 01:24:15
haha jesus this is 90 mph stuff. i was on this site before i left the house and now i've come home to find that maxi is gone and borini has signed. great news about borini however i wish maxi all the best.
derryred
14 Jul 2012 00:37:18
Macca anything on the next signing please?..
14 Jul 2012 01:10:20
I find it quite funny that when we're linked to someone (like Borini), some people on here are completely against him, and have a go at Rodgers for looking at players of this supposed lack of quality, and then the moment he signs it's suddenly a brilliant piece of business and a quality, assute signing. Some 'fans' are so fickle. Eds and Macca, thank you for the brilliant job you do, don't listen to the haters, because there are those of us who really appreciate what you bring to this site.
Ye but more than 5 people use this site so how can you be sure its the same posters ya need proof otherwise for all we know your the biggest culprit of said treachery and backtrackery.
So true mate. So many people just want to moan period. Carroll gets all the stick in the world then the same people saying he's better than Rooney for England. Now moaning he could leave.
I like him but personally i would sell Carroll for £10 million plus Dempsey, yet i always liked him and still do but not sure he would suit style of play and if BR doesnt want him there must be a good reason as he is not going to want to lose all that money
gareth
10 million plus Dempsey for carrol. Are you mad?
14 Jul 2012 01:02:24
lfc's next best transfer is to sell or release all the moaning nob end fans that can manage a football team better than BR, so us real fans can support what we have in front of us. Failing that can they send BR a copy of fifa or FM 12 so he can buy the wonderkids these spams are expecting becuase they played well for them on the pc. just shaddap bitchin and support ur club, BR is signing players that he thinks will fill the voids from last season, ffs u all cry cos KK never got long enough now u all killing BR b4 he plays a game! YNWA Waynos.
I think the fans who wanted kenny to get more time are the same fans who want BR to succeed and will back his signings and of course vice versa.
derryred
Just remember mate, there's some fans who were hoping KK would be given longer but are more than happy with Brendan's appointment and willingly give him their full support.
Cuchulainn's Hounds
Stop your whining i stopped reading 5 words after nob end fans.
Just to clarify - there are "nob ends" and there are "fans" - there are no "nob-end fans"
14 Jul 2012 00:36:01
With borini signed, BR turns his attention to dempsey and adam johnson
14 Jul 2012 00:34:54
Fabio Borini
Joe Allen
Clint Dempsey
Lewis Holtby
Thats my guess on our 4 signings.
Mike Fahrenheit
Well i doubt your miles wrong anyway.
derryred
14 Jul 2012 00:22:59
Please people can we stop replying to ,or even given these trolls or silly post from other fans making out they lfc fans time ov day ,I read these post and look straight past them on to the usual suspect s ha that I like to read there thoughts on things as it important to hear wot other supporters think ,I'm no manager except on FIFA ,so leave all the hard stuff to BR and best luck to him ,these people will f?k up this site if we let them ,just try and blank them and leave it to eds to block them as best they can ,sorry eds, hopefully they get board ,and find a another site to pester ,
YNWA lfc linc
14 Jul 2012 00:04:59
so everyone seems pretty certain that Mr Rodgers will use a 4-3-3 formation. what i'd like to know is how will the midfield be set up exactly? one holding player with two wide players going forward or two holding players with a more advanced attacking midfielder? also, can anybody see BR playing a front 3 of carol,suarez and borini with carol leading the line? or do you think we will need two proper wingers? I think the only certainty is the back four. would carragher even make the bench ahead of coates and kelly? where does joe cole come on the list? not ahead of shelvey,sterling and suso I hope.
changa
There was an article called tika tala and it said his system was:
Gk
Cb Cb
Cdm
Rb Lb
Cm Cm
Rf. Lf
I think as things stand if we played tomorow our top six would look like;
Gerrard Lucas Henderson
Bellamy borini Suarez
I could see borini and Carroll playing but reading between the lines I doubt Carroll will be first choice.
I think we'll see some new faces come in and personally would love to see gerrard play up top in place of Bellamy say.
From Swansea last year the midfield 3 consisted of a DM a ACM and a deep lying play maker. If we buy no other I think hendo will be given the latter role and obviously gerrard as ACM. But I do expect allen or similar to come in and a winger to make up a front 3 of Suarez, borini and ?.
Exciting stuff I think, was screaming for kenny to play 433 all last season.
CQ
Instead of Alonso and Masch now read Gerrard and Lucas which will allow the fullbacks to support and give width.
No good having two excellent attacking fullbacks that are better and more consistent than most wingers and not using them.
........................reina
..johnson....skyrtel..agger...enrique
............gerrard.....lucas.............
..................allen.......................
.......suarez...borini....dempsey......
The team is designed to keep good possession but also to win it back quickly
when we lose possession?
kidmillions
14 Jul 2012 00:04:09
have been snooping on borinis facebook pages and on the italian sports papers sites and the roma fans comments in general seem to be in line with the player profile that was done,well done on that one by the way.but yeah lots of roma fans saying and repeating how much they will miss his drive and never say die attitude or his spirit to get the other team mates going.it seems he was truelly likrd and accepted by alot of the roma fans for the reasons we love our players and that tells us something about this lad,to be held in high esteem in a city where football is also an everyday obsession and way of life suggests he cant be that bad a signing.kyb.
One of his strengths apart from goals is closing down and harrying defenders quickly ala Ian Rush.
kidmillions
Lovely put! It's nice to read one or two mature posts, aside from all the junk and trash talk on here. Summer vacation kids has taken over is the general feeling.
The Rob
That sounds perfect to me. The opposition have had far too much time to get attacks started in some games last season and we missed the defending from the front, with the exception of Dirk. Looking forward to seeing Borini play.
ND
14 Jul 2012 00:01:59
ST/FWD; 21, Borini - £8m
Wing/AM/FWD; 29, Dempsey - £8m + spearing
AM/Wing Forward; 20, Couthinho - Charlie Adam + cash (£8m) deal worth £14m
ST/FWD; 22, Pato - Andy Carroll + cash (£8m) deal worth £23m
CM/AM; 24, Granero - £10m
= £46m out going
Bellamy 2m + 1m kuyt + saving from Bellamy, Kuyt, ecclestone and Maxi salary (around 180k pw = around 8.6m saved)
so that is 46m - 11m = 35m spent.
I think if you want to cont wages saved on outgoing players for calculating the net spend then shouldn't the wages for the incoming players also be counted.
RedRay
13 Jul 2012 23:40:07
We so need to sign Esteban Granero, Clint Dempsey, and Kuba Blaszczykowski to go along with Fabio Borini. I can't get over how awesome it would be to have signed a Pirate, a Cowboy, the guy from the best first person shooter PC game ever Wolfenstein 3D, to go along with our Italian thief. I don't care what anyone says that would be freakin awesome and not just in name alone.
BR said he wanted technical skill and steel and for sure that is what he is going after at least the best he can on the budget he was given. Though he is not seem to be going after high profile players I am starting to see how the players that he is seemingly going for would fit into the current squad to better fit a system or style of play that he is trying to achieve.
There is no guarantee of success but I will now say that I can see that BR has a vision that he wants to achieve and he is going straight for it while working within the constraints of the system he inherited and I admire him for it. I am looking forward to some exciting play like we had in the beginning of last season but with the cojones to finish teams off.
Coley
13 Jul 2012 23:38:20
With the sale of Dirk Kuyt and Maxi Rodriguez, Liverpool will defiantly be in the market for a winger.
Players I would like to see :
-Theo Walcott(15million)
-Clint Dempsey(8million)
-Ibrahim Affelay(6million)
-Adam Johnson(14million)
-Jakub Blaszcykowski(8million)
-Younes Belhanda(15million)
-Markel Susaeta(7million)
-Ryad Boudebouz(8million)
-Gaston Ramirez(16million)
-Christian Tello(7million)
You want us to sign 10 wingers? oh and the prices are very inaccurate.
derryred
Cool, so start looking for £100 million down the sofa
This is who I would like to see be our next three players in.
-Theo Walcott(15million), RWF, SS
-Clint Dempsey(8million), FWD, AM
-Ryad Boudebouz(12million), AM, RM
-Philippe Coutinho(8m + Adam = 13m deal)
+Borini(8m)
£51m
out
-Bellamy(2m)
-Carroll(16m)
-kuyt(1m)
maxi free
aurelio free
adam (swap)
= £19m
51-19 = 32m
13 Jul 2012 23:36:45
Is borini going on tour or back off on his hols cos of euros?
Tommy
13 Jul 2012 23:32:52
i really hope adam johnson is the forth player macca mentioned whould be really give us some real quality attacking depth to the squad
Come forth Lazarus...and he came fifth and lost the job! Ulysses.
13 Jul 2012 23:28:41
i think borinin looks like a pure nutter in his medical pics
What haha thats class wat do ya mean a nutter hmm are you liking him for jiggy jiggy.
13 Jul 2012 21:16:46
Welcome Fabio this is the greatest club to play for so the best off luck to you son.Ed001 do you know who Bredans no.2 will be as yet.Many thanks.
Up the pool
Redan {Ed001's Note - I believe it was meant to be one of the ones he brought with him from Swansea, though they seem to have vanished from existence since they left there!}
Just noticed that on the staff profiles we have no assistant manager... maybe they didnt follow rodgers to liverpool
Asistant Manager? my application is in the post ;)
kidmillions
Has no-one seen the training pictures from about a week ago? In a couple of them you will see Colin Pascoe; I think he's the new #2..
Stone YNWA.