Liverpool Banter Archive June 14 2015

 

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14 Jun 2015 23:12:37
Moronic people criticising Ed02.
If you don't want her insight then jog on !

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14 Jun 2015 23:25:01
Absolutely ridiculous to criticize the eds, its not like things don't constantly change.

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15 Jun 2015 04:19:52
If you don't like what any of the Eds are telling because you can't handle the truth, then you can get......

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15 Jun 2015 05:22:35
Well said. What people do not realize is that situations and decisions change. There is no done deal unless the the player has signed on the dotted line and unveiled at the club ground. So why are people assuming that Kovacic was a done deal? Verbally agreeing a fee is the easy part, not the conclusion of the deal. Just like all human beings, the people running a football club, the players and agents themselves change their minds so often not to mention so many other factors involved. So unless someone tells u that a deal is done 100%, do not accuse others of misleading u just because u get your hopes up. That is not on the Eds, its on the posters who start dreaming about a player banging in the goals for LFC before he has even signed for the club officially.

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15 Jun 2015 06:06:40
if you believe sky or echo more than this site, then don't visit this site, simple really.

ive been following this site for years and i know who i trust.

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15 Jun 2015 08:42:18
The .............

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{Ed002's Note - It is not about disagreement, it is about abuse.}

14 Jun 2015 22:52:07
Any word if we are interested in Geoffrey Kongdogbia

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{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine.}

14 Jun 2015 22:38:07
Hi Eds,

RE Kovacic: on Friday Ed002 said that "there is an agreement over the fee and additional bonuses but nothing finalised according to agent . The deal should go thru".

No other reliable UK sources such as the Liverpool Echo, Tony Barrett (Times), Sky, BBC etc. have reported this. In fact the Echo and Vinny O'Connor of Sky have said that there is no interest. The only sources reporting a deal are outlets in Croatia and Italy, both of whom are quoting each other! Even the player has said he has heard nothing and is happy at Inter.

Out of curiosity, how do you know a fee has been agreed or are you simply citing the same sources in Italy and Croatia?

Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - So you want to play me off against The Echo and whoever Vinny O'Connor of Sky is? If you are not happy please keep googling Liverpool and Red Alert rather than waste your time here. If such an esteemed publication as the Echo and the all-knowing Sky say Liverpool has no interest in Kovacic, then who am I to argue as I am obviously wrong explaining that there is interest and still confident that something can be done when this hiccup is resolved.}

14 Jun 2015 22:57:20
I believe ed! He or she is mostly grumpy and makes snappy remarks but knows exactly what they are talking about! :))

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14 Jun 2015 23:04:34
The Echo is notoriously clueless until a deal has been finalised. They just summarise whatever is making the waves on metro etc.

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14 Jun 2015 23:23:11
Instead of doubting and bothering ed002, just visit the rumours, this issue has exhaustively been done to death

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14 Jun 2015 23:31:04
I trust you ed and I hope we get him mate.

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15 Jun 2015 00:08:02
I don't suggest testing Ed002. She stopped posting on the United page after a few people were tools, so I would doubt your experience on this site if you ticked her off; not only doubt that, but I can't imagine many posters would be happy when you've pushed away our only great source of transfer information (no disrespect to you ed001 :D)

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15 Jun 2015 04:22:54
If you can't hand what the Ed is telling then either prove him or her wrong with more accurate info or get stuffed instead of parroting media reports from other sources and calling the accurate info.

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15 Jun 2015 05:57:38
Eds all the way.

Please just ignore those imbeciles. And be HAPPY.

Thanks for the continuous and detailed updated info.

Will always be on this site for my LFC transfer news/info.

No newspaper will ever give ME the in depth info the eds give, I'm just so glad I trust the info on this site.

I have been on this site since it started back in the day and with all this time I have learnt a lot here.

And Psssst I trust and value the eds info, opinion, knowledge and oh yes I'm sucking up because they deserve it.

Eds Rule

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15 Jun 2015 08:28:33
Hang on, are you for real?!

We spend all our time banging on about how things are not done quietly, and are always leaked to the media, and then when they aren't you complain and use it to attack ed002?!

More completely logical behaviour from the best fans in the world.

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15 Jun 2015 08:32:33
Situations change ALL the time.

The Ed's on here are very guarded with information and if Ed002 posted "there is an agreement over the fee and additional bonuses but nothing finalised according to agent . The deal should go thru" then you can be pretty sure that is the case.

Info on here is FAR MORE ACCURATE than anywhere else and while, from time to time, situations don't pan out as expected, that has more to do with changes in circumstance and not the original information being incorrect.

vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.

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15 Jun 2015 09:33:36
Just wondering what the original poster thinks now that sky are reporting that a deal for kovacic is done ?? Awkward

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15 Jun 2015 11:06:49
This is the best site for info and opinions imo

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14 Jun 2015 21:24:24
Hi ed.

Just wondering if you have any involvement with other sports or sports stars. Be intresting to know how far and wide you go and any other info you can share. Thanks and sorry for being nosey.

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{Ed002's Note - I am to some extent but I can't speak for the other Eds. They are generally either chimney sweeps or florists.}

14 Jun 2015 22:05:30
Hi again eds.

Another thing I was wondering. when would you are the club that gets it right when it comes to getting the deals done and players in. One would assume it's not all about agreeing fees and wages etc. It's about selling the club, getting the player excited about his role and future etc.

We seem woefully at it lol

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{Ed002's Note - No transfer will take place without the agreement of the player. There is a need to sell the club and area to the player and clubs do that.}

14 Jun 2015 21:54:37
Rob Jones rolled back the years in the legends match tonight shame he was so injury prone same as Vegard Hegem ran all day. We need a right back now, personally i would make every effort to get clyne or even bring back Arbelo for a couple of seasons. Really can't wait till next season

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15 Jun 2015 04:24:37
They're both not good enuff especially Arbeloa.

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{Ed001's Note - Arbeloa was excellent but he never wanted to be here, which was why is ended up in a fight with Carra on the pitch.}

15 Jun 2015 11:36:07
redohio - Arbeloa was a quality full back.

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15 Jun 2015 12:21:46
Arbeloa declined after a few years at madrid, that's all.

In fact a lot of madrid fans apparently believe he is the worst fullback they've ever had.

Was very solid for us though.

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15 Jun 2015 17:09:19
Yeah! In 2007-09 which is 6-8 years ago.

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14 Jun 2015 21:45:21
If reports are true that we have agreed a 16.6 million fee with Inter for Kovacic. Then got to say well done to the club for negotiating a lower fee than inter wanted.

For such a young player with tonnes potential is was expecting over 20 million. Now hopefully the deal can be tied up and we can move onto a striker.

I think if Kovacic does arrive it will see the sale of Allen this summer. Even before Kovacic arrives I can't see him getting any chances to play.

We already have

L. Markovic.
J. Ibe.
J. Henderson.
J. Milner.
E. Can.
P. Coutinho.
A. Lallana.
M. Kovacic.

There's is no way Allen is going to be ahead of any of the above. Due to this I can see Lucas leaving too.

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14 Jun 2015 21:58:29
I would love to see a alex song type player come in especially if lucas leaves. All the best teams have a world class dm

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14 Jun 2015 22:06:37
We've just distanced ourselves from him now

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14 Jun 2015 22:16:56
You do know brenda is still the manager don't you. So its most probable allen will start ahead of most of these.

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14 Jun 2015 22:17:35
have you actually seen Song play? How do you get that he is world class?

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14 Jun 2015 22:21:48
I don't see why we haven't gone for Alex song already it's a no brainer

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14 Jun 2015 23:06:25
Attitude mate. Attitude. Some Barca players couldn't stand him.

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15 Jun 2015 04:28:44
And he's aweful as well. As for Allen, the only reason reason he will start over any of those player is cause BR is infatuated with him in a kind of creepy way, football wise because he wouldn't even make the bench in any of the other teams ahead of us.

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{Ed001's Note - I would rather have Allen than Song. At least Allen tries and doesn't just stroll around with his hands in his pockets.}

15 Jun 2015 05:02:43
Lucas is one of the best DM's around and gives his all for the club - why not just keep him, play him and save some money?

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15 Jun 2015 06:36:37
Seano, according to the Ed's Brendan does rate nor want Lucas.

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14 Jun 2015 19:23:11
Just a general thought, having watched England's win and particularly Jack Wilshere's role.

He seemed to play an odd role whereby if Englands defenders had the ball, he would drop deep, get the ball and either drive forward or keep the game ticking. On the occasions he drove forward, Delph very often covered him in midfield thus allowing Wilshere to move forward without worry about a lack of cover.

Got me thinking about a similar trait in Can's game. Would be a decent shout to hold in that midfield diamond or 3 if he knew Hendo/Allen was covering.


Fair play to Hodgson for finding a position for Wilshere. i'm not Roy's biggest fan at all but I think he has come up with a decent solution here to make the most of Wilsheres technical ability and Delph and Henderson's tactical awareness and running ability.

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14 Jun 2015 19:32:19
That's the position can was bought for apparently

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14 Jun 2015 19:56:41
Boring England with inflated egos running around the pitch trying to look handsome and camera friendly.

Makes you cringe to watch that shower.

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14 Jun 2015 20:20:58
AZ

Yeah it would be nice to see if Can could replicate a similar style/game in Midfield . that is if our "exalted" leader doesn't have a "Tango moment" in Marbella and decides Can's future might just lie as a backup Goalkeeper!

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14 Jun 2015 20:21:47
Sterling poor again, if he keeps this up we will be lucky to get 40p lol

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14 Jun 2015 21:03:28
Spot on, Guru! The guy is something else cs nobody not even his own acolytes can understand what he is doing or the thinking behind it. I guess when all else fails, he can throw his poor assistants under the bus. If he has once, he will do it again.

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14 Jun 2015 23:08:32
Sterling's finishing is getting worse!

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14 Jun 2015 18:47:40
Wilshere seems to play well in all red - as opposed to red and white - and is linking up well with Henderson and Lallana. Any chance a Wilshere + £ for Sterling deal could be arranged. Would Arsenal be willing to part ways?

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has shown no interest. And whoever plays well in the next game Liverpool has shown no interest in.}

14 Jun 2015 22:20:38
I apologize if it seemed like one of those so-and-so played well let's make a move for him post. Wilshere is a player who as you know showed loads of potential 4 years ago and hasn't really developed. I've long thought he could use a change of scenery and I thought perhaps Liverpool would be a good move for him with Gerrard leaving. Henderson's work ethic could allow for Wilshere to roam more creatively. Could be good for county too, not that BR or the committee is worried about that. Thanks for the response

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15 Jun 2015 01:04:50
We'd need some more physios and a bigger medical centre if we signed him.

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{Ed001's Note - and babysitters, the guy is a complete tool and nothing but trouble.}

15 Jun 2015 12:26:51
For the last time. We need strikers not midfielders. Any swap deal for sterling should include walcott or sanchez (never going to happen of course) or just cash.

We don't need a replacement for gerrard, his influence waned as soon as he hit 30, as he is an attacking midfielder and nothing more.

The mantle of talisman was passed to suarez as soon as he joined, but nostalgia seems to be blinding people's view as to what the real problem is- there is still no replacement for suarez, nithing to do with gerrard.

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14 Jun 2015 18:44:43
Hi Eds, do we still hold any interest in Roma's Juan Iturbe? Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has never shown interest in Iturbe.}

14 Jun 2015 20:22:21
Kind of like YouTube for me?

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14 Jun 2015 21:29:51
Youtube hah.

I could understand if you said eastenders or big brother or somthing.

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14 Jun 2015 17:49:14
Dear Eds,
Re: Firmino.
From reading your updates you say a number of clubs having made formal approaches, but not if Liverpool are among them. Have we missed our opportunity, were we interested, if not do you know why not?

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have no interest in him.}

15 Jun 2015 09:49:26
How are the eds supposed to answer questions of why not? Be reasonable.

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14 Jun 2015 17:25:10
Watching Jordan play for England right now. I, for one, will be proud to call that man captain next year.

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14 Jun 2015 18:53:27
I don't know what you saw in him at RB

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14 Jun 2015 19:04:38
He did well as right wing back not as cm. obviously rodgers will be excited. he has got one player to play out of position. towards the startig next season.

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14 Jun 2015 21:06:06
BR has found his excuse for playing him there next season as in, the equally clueless England manager's use of Hendo at wingback

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15 Jun 2015 02:27:43
I though Hendo did well in the first half - I think he has real potential to be a midfield general in time.

I wasn't a fan when moved to RB, like Can he showed he's good enough to do an OK job but out of position quite a few times and lacks genuine pace to get back and make up for it.

I still don't understand why we don't give Manquillo more time. He may not be the best attacking FB but he's solid defensively and we should have enough with Hendo/Coutinho/Ibe/Sturridge/Llalana to create goals.

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{Ed001's Note - he is awful defensively, what on earth are you on about? Manquillo was dropped because of that. He is lazy, just another Glenn Johnson making no effort getting back.}

15 Jun 2015 06:49:12
Agree with Ed on that point, not good at defending at all.

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{Ed001's Note - shame because the lad has the ability but he is wasting it.}

15 Jun 2015 12:29:23
Manquillo is a waste of time because he is an academy level player. Loaning him from a top team and doing their dirty work while we have our own talent is so mind boggling and disrespectful its sickening.

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14 Jun 2015 17:11:27
Well eds
just wondering, if the kovacic deal does fall through do you suspect we will go after a different central midfielder or will we just look to strengthen different areas?

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{Ed002's Note - I am not going to speculate but given MK was not first choice you can make your own mind up what will happen.}

14 Jun 2015 17:29:20
Who was first choice then Ed?
I just can't seem to remember

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{Ed002's Note - Lars Stindl, but he chose Borussia Monchengladbach over Liverpool.}

14 Jun 2015 17:58:15
All sounds like it ain't happens Ed to me.

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14 Jun 2015 18:03:45
Bleacher report saying kovacic is going nowhere. Hope we get him. Stop slating the ed's for passing on information and then it doesn't happen,u would all be all be moaning if they divulged nothing.

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14 Jun 2015 18:19:15
Although I would like us to get Kovacic if we don't get him it would be nice for us to move onto a more defensive midfielder. Although the only other centre midfielder except Stindl that I remember Ed002 mentioning on the list of interest from Liverpool was Pjanic who would be extremely expensive. Ed002 do you think if Sterling were to leave that could fund Pjanic or has interest in him gone now

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{Ed002's Note - No, Liverpool cannot afford him.}

14 Jun 2015 19:37:15
Cheers ed002 I thought that would be the case. Hopefully they can overcome the issue in the Kovacic deal and get that done

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14 Jun 2015 19:56:03
My fear is that we go from Kovacic to Will Hughes

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14 Jun 2015 21:06:47
Or Jason Puncheon

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14 Jun 2015 16:27:21
So one to rule out, as it seems falcao is off to Chelsea, to be realistic if we can't pursue players that are probably in the europa Leagues or outside of it with good recorded of achievement over the past two seasons, then it's better we take our mind off a marquee signing of any sort. I guess is time for the owners to open their check book and be decisive on time before we are left with no one, or perhaps those clubs will decide not to sell again. Like what happened with kono

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14 Jun 2015 17:14:05
We can't buy every player. Were we even interested in him? Did you see how much wages he cost the mancs?

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14 Jun 2015 21:09:30
With the way people have put Milner on a pedestal, one would have thought that he was the marquee signing we made, what ever the heck that means.

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14 Jun 2015 23:11:47
Falcao was horrible against Venezuela today. Don't think he even touched the ball.

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15 Jun 2015 04:30:53
Saw the game too, Dwarf. He looked old, slow and tired.

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15 Jun 2015 06:41:24
In fairness Redohio, he may just end up being our marquee signing hahaha

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15 Jun 2015 06:52:13
Don't understand the issue with Milner. He's a good player who is consistent. We have very little experience in the squad particularly if we want to progress in Europe. Milner brings experience and consistency, 2 things we lack.

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14 Jun 2015 16:01:39
Ed, a question if I may, have FSG contacted Klopp about the Liverpool managers job.
If they have not then they have done more than made a mistake, as far as I'm concerned they have been incompetent

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has a manager Chris. This has been done to death.}

14 Jun 2015 17:11:46
I'm aware of that Ed and I'm only asking a question that I haven't seen answered
Have FSG approached Klopp about the possibility of him taking the job?

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{Ed002's Note - No Chris. One club (Fenerbahce) has approached Dortmund and asked permission to speak with Klopp and that was rejected. The situation for Klopp himself is difficult. Napoli were interested but have turned to their plan B with Klopp taking time out.

The Manchester City job might be available but, whilst they will no doubt discuss him, he is not the manager they want. They have already talked with one other manager and the representatives of another regards an initial one year contract whilst they wait another season. The manager they spoke to will almost certainly reject such a deal. Right now Pelligrini will get one more year. There is no doubt at all in my mind that Arsenal would look to Klopp to eventually succeed Wenger but the chances of such a thing happening this summer is non-existant. An attractive option for Klopp would be Manchester United who will no doubt have also discussed him - but they too have someone else in mind and the timing does not help under the current circumstances there. This would leave Liverpool, but their owners have been taking a measured approach via advice from third parties, and right now he may not be someone that they are considering, even if they do decide to make a change.

The likes of Marseille and West Ham will not sign Klopp.

Certainly don't rule out Klopp to Bayern Munich, PSG, Barcelona or Real Madrid at some point - all three jobs may well be available next summer.

This leaves Klopp in the position of: (a) Does he take a year off and look at what will be available next summer - and there are scheduled to be some very good jobs available then. (b) Does he take a coaching job he is not 100% committed to and see what is available next summer - but I think there is too much integrity in the man for this. (c) Does he take on a job with a club like Napoli, Liverpool or whoever, throw himself at it 100% and bide his time until the "right" job becomes available to him - and would the likes of Napoli or Liverpool be interested in a manager who wants to be elsewhere in the longer term. (d) Does he sit tight and hope that one of the clubs probably looking to change coaches next season opts to get him whilst they can. (e) Or will a little deal with Bayern Munich see him join before the end of next season allowing him time to assimilate and work with Guardiola over a significant rebuild?

Right now it is Option (a).

I should point out that whilst Klopp speaks fluent English, his French is not particularly good and I am not so sure he speaks any Spanish at all. But he now has time to take lessons.}}

14 Jun 2015 19:07:36
Thanks Ed, I understand that Liverpool wouldn't want a manager who would have one eye on another job but if Rodgers had his way he'd be off to Spain to the right club so times have changed.
FSG should offer the man the job now on his own terms
Won't happen but that doesn't mean it shouldn't
I'm curious as to what FSG are planning as I feel they sacked Marsh and Pascoe in the hope that Rodgers may walk

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{Ed002's Note - You need the Conspiracy page Chris.}

14 Jun 2015 20:27:53
It sucks Chris, I know it does. I would have loved it if we went for Klopp. Nothing we can do about it though, at least we'll be prepared for mid-table this season, unlike last. Klopp could certainly be speaking good French or Spanish if he immerses himself out in one of those countries, he certainly seems intelligent and dedicated enough.

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14 Jun 2015 21:17:31
Adam if that is what they were thinking then that is the dumbest way to get rid of a coach I've never heard especially one as sneaky and dishonorable as BR who would rather see his assistants walk than take responsibility for his failures. This is because BR takes responsibility for nothing and blames everybody else for his issues. See a theme here? The owners defo know this yet have kept him. Who do they think he's going to blame when or if things go wrong after stupidly isolating him and putting him on a very short leash? You guessed it, he'll blame the TC, the pitch, the players and indirectly, his bosses and the assistants they have forced on him

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14 Jun 2015 22:34:22
Chris in Tamworth.

Spot on !!

Liverpool have a bloke in a suit that stands on the touchline.

They do not have a manager.

FSG will discover this in the coming season.

Up 2 them !

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15 Jun 2015 06:55:30
The rumour is he's planning on using redohio as his scapegoat next season. :-)

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14 Jun 2015 15:47:41
Ed do you still expecting the deal to go through?

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{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about - if it is Kovacic, I have answered this already. If it is anyone else, then I need a name. It is better to "Reply" to posts than to send them in like this.}

14 Jun 2015 15:36:58
Hi eds, are the latest rumours in the papers about Balotelli going on loan to Sampdoria true? Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - Have you tried searching - that is nothing new.}

14 Jun 2015 15:00:36
You said 3 days ago that the fee agreed plus bonuses for kovacic now your saying it's not I'm confused?

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{Ed002's Note - I have explained the situation very precisely. If you are still confused it is probably down to genetics. Something you will need to learn to live with.}

15 Jun 2015 01:26:59
hahaha, that was a zinger ed. he'll need to report to the burn unit after that one.

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14 Jun 2015 14:43:35
Hi Ed

Was referred to this site by a mate and already hooked to this site. Having read through your recent posts where you would be against Dzeko for example and whilst being impressed with him, you aren't too bothered by another CM in Kovacic, i'd be really interested to know which realistic signings, you would like to see us make this summer.

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{Ed002's Note - I am not sure what you mean about Dzeko. I am not aware of any Liverpool interest.

If it were down to me, I will stick by my previous selection:

GK: Handanovic (to replace Mignolet)
RB: Darmain (considered to be a replacement for Ivanovic at Chelsea if he fails to extend)
CB: Balanta (Caniggia wanted Liverpool to move for Balanta more than two years ago - and he has got better. Rogers ignored the advice. He shouldn't have done. No chance now.)
MF: Matuidi (but there is some baggage), Morgan Sanson (would be a great buy and available at a decent price)
F/W: Mitrovic (I don't see a long term future for Lambert and Mitrovic would give Liverpool a very good option that they are missing right now. Rodgers will regret using the words "Origi" and "world-class" in the same sentence.)

14 Jun 2015 15:43:44
That post simply reiterates the fact that Liverpool need Ed002, if not as manager then as chair of the transfer committee.

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14 Jun 2015 15:46:51
I was referring to one of your responses where you said that Dzeko is woeful. Thanks for the response. Not too familiar with those guys but a quick google suggests they have potential.

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{Ed002's Note - I don't recall saying "Dzeko is woeful" but if Manchester City offer a striker to Liverpool it will likely be someone else.}

14 Jun 2015 15:55:52
You have a go at us being unrealistic then you come up with Matuidi. No chance

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{Ed002's Note - Even though Matuidi signed a new deal not so long ago he would have been made available in a straight exchange for Sakho in January - Sakho had made PSG aware that he was unhappy at the club whilst at Clairefontaine last November. Since then Sakho has gotten back in to the Liverpool side and is settled and staying.}

14 Jun 2015 15:57:03
Ed002 get on that transfer committee. Make our summer

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14 Jun 2015 16:00:22
Could you care to tell us who ed2?

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{Ed002's Note - Negredo is being offered around by both Valencia (who have an option to buy) and Manchester City.}

14 Jun 2015 16:13:11
Ed2 talking about Man City strikers do Liverpool hold an interest in any? I have heard we are interested in Jovetic any truth?

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{Ed002's Note - No. Roma and, particularly, Inter Milan are interested in taking Jovetic back to Italy, perhaps initially on loan. His time in England has been plagued by injury and an inability to settle. Juventus have dropped their interest and moved on.}

14 Jun 2015 16:13:40
Sorry,it was Ed001 who said Dzeko is woeful.

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14 Jun 2015 16:19:25
Ed002 which striker do you think Man City would offer to Liverpool? Jovetic perhaps?

Thanks!

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{Ed002's Note - See above.}

14 Jun 2015 16:34:54
ed002,is jovetic someone else you are referring to above if manchester city offered a striker in the deal?

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

14 Jun 2015 16:42:51
Ed002, aren't Valencia obliged to buy Negredo? Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - They have an option to buy him. Manchester City is offering him around as are Valencia.}

14 Jun 2015 16:47:11
Negredo is the Striker they are looking to move on chaps. Viable option for us Ed if he was offered? Or has he been offered already to us?

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{Ed002's Note - Read the original post.}

14 Jun 2015 16:48:10
Would love matuidi from p.s.g.class.

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15 Jun 2015 05:06:10
Yeezy season approaching ! ^^

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14 Jun 2015 14:26:42
Ed who is the under 16 coach that has been talked about being promoted to 1st team coach and what position was he doing at porto and other clubs cheers YNWA

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{Ed001's Note - can you not read through the posts? I have answered this question a number of times over the last couple of days, there is even a link on the rumour page to more info on him.}

14 Jun 2015 14:19:51
Eds. I've seen a lot of comments about mateo kovacic but don't have access to Italian football or watch a lot of international football so a very simple question(s) to you/follow posters. Is he any good? What would he bring to the team?

Thanks

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14 Jun 2015 14:47:44
Forget these ! he is not coming !!

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14 Jun 2015 15:06:28
Have a look on YouTube, not ideal but you will get an idea of what type of player he is.
Reminds me a bit of a young Gerrard with his driving runs and long passes, a bit of Suarez for his trickery and a bit of Allen for some reason, probably because they play in similar positions, with a bit of Iniesta as well.
Looks to be a very good player, just a bit worried as we should be prioritising other positions first, don't want to see us in the position like last summer where we bought ballotelli as we needed a striker and he was just about all who was left that we hadn't alienated.

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14 Jun 2015 15:04:19
Rather than type that whole post and then come back in half hour and see if anyone's replied why not go to that very well known video sharing website and simply type in mateo kovacic and watch the first video by scout nation and after that trust whatever opinion you manage to form for yourself :)

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14 Jun 2015 13:58:24
Quick question(s) for eds if possible.

Have looked into Europa league and you said the money gained from being in it pales in comparison to the CL, but wondered if income gained from being involved in it are significant? Meaning does qualifying for Europa league does it provide a noticeable or beneficial increase in income?

Secondly your opinion on the competition? Personally glad we qualified as A) we have a big enough squad to compete in it B) is a tournament I think we can realistically win (personally don't think an english team has a chance of winning CL next season) and C) more lfc games and have a "European kit" as oppose to a "3rd kit".

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{Ed002's Note - Your question is full of subjective terminology. It is very much the second tier within European competition but teams want to play in it. Liverpool qualified thanks to Chelsea and Arsenal. Last year they were terrible in both the Champions League and the Europa - I have no feeling for how this year will be. Perhaps a year in transition?}

14 Jun 2015 14:25:43
Cheers and sorry if question was unclear, put simply:

Financially, is there a big benefit from being involved in the Europa league?

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{Ed002's Note - I cannot answer that sensibly as the money depends how far a club progresses and "big" is entirely subjective. If Liverpool don't want to play in the competition they can easily write to UEFA and decline.}

14 Jun 2015 15:11:08
If we barely can win against ludogorets, and gets slammed by the likes of Basel and RM, then we should probably try to get some european experience.

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14 Jun 2015 14:49:47
I understand there is a subjective element to it and didn't mean to imply an arrogance to Liverpool competiting or even qualifying in the Europa league.

In my best to simplify it, if we qualified for CL football it would change or alter transfers targets not just for prostege, but for financial benefits (tv income, improved sponsorship, etc).

So would the Europa league financially provide an improvement in income to hangs transfer targets or alter plans for next season.

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{Ed002's Note - It won't make any difference in terms of transfer targets - where as the Champions League would. It won't alter any other plans either.}

14 Jun 2015 14:55:24
Just to qualify for the champions league everyone raves that's where the money is. I think the simple question was just to qualify for Europa league is it 5% less money or 95% less.
If you don't know there is no harm in admitting it.
Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - You are clearly some sort of half wit - the money is dependent on results in both competitions and how team progress. I have made it perfectly clear.}

14 Jun 2015 20:41:00
Cheers always a good source of info and was a genuine curiosity as wondered if hat impact it makes!

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14 Jun 2015 11:01:06
kovacic has said he "doesnt expect" a transfer to an club this summer, does that completely rule us out of signing him then?

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14 Jun 2015 14:26:30
He said that before it was agreed.

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14 Jun 2015 12:07:32
According to Di Marzio who is supposedly in the know re Italian football, we have only enquired about Kovacic and not made an offer.

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14 Jun 2015 12:22:53
Trust ed002 more. Di marzio has been wrong more times than I remember

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14 Jun 2015 12:32:58
So you don't believe ed002?

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14 Jun 2015 12:33:34
Deals done. Move on.

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14 Jun 2015 12:36:13
I know who I believe.

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14 Jun 2015 12:58:34
Have more faith in the Eds

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14 Jun 2015 10:42:34
Which other manager would be allowed to spend the amount spent under Rodgers, and still be in a job? None, and it's quite clear that the reason he's still here is because the owners accept that it's their strategy that's not quite going to plan. I do however feel Rodgers has struggled to cope with all the players brought in and does need extra help to coach them. Hence the recent coaching change up.

Has the transfer strategy changed though? Well, early signs would suggest not. Ings and Kovacic are another 2 young players with potential. Milner and Bogdan are just 2 more squad players. I know there's still the whole summer ahead, but it would seem that the transfer strategy is still in place.

As I have said before, I do like the strategy, but we need to be more careful with the players we buy. Too many duds are bought year after year and a lot of money, time and effort is wasted on these poor buys. I am quite pleased with Kovacic though, he has all the qualities to become a top player. I just hope we bring in the right quality in the areas we need to strengthen.

Question for one of the eds. Has there been any changes with regards to the committee? As it's this area that seems to a big part of the problem.

Red Rum

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{Ed002's Note - Bogdan is the replacement for Brad Jones - I would doubt that Milner is simply a "squad" player and suspect you may well be looking at the new captain.

Perhaps you are seeing problems the club aren't.}

14 Jun 2015 11:17:08
Making more excuses for the useless Nose

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14 Jun 2015 11:25:31
Surely it would be really bad for team morale from Henderson's, and those closest to him in the squad's, perspective, as Rodgers gave the impression throughout last season that Hendo would be our next captain?

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14 Jun 2015 11:48:51
I would be surprised if Milner or Lallana are made captain ahead of Henderson.

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14 Jun 2015 11:49:12
He just gave vice captain to Henderson . He's not an lfc captain for me . Milner has loads of caps n won league titles etc .

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14 Jun 2015 11:51:43
Not excuses Essex. General observation. It's amazing how some fans can't accept that Rodgers isn't fully to blame, it seems pretty clear cut to me.

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14 Jun 2015 11:52:09
Rodgers gave the armband to Henderson as a trial, he as always said it's up for grabs. Rodgers has to go with the person he feels is up to it.

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14 Jun 2015 12:07:57
Rodgers is not totally to blame that is clear. Fsg have clearly got involved in a sport far removed from their comfort zone. However that does not absolve Rodgers of his seemingly endless list of failings as a manager. How anyone can agree with the so called current 'strategy' is beyond me.

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14 Jun 2015 12:11:30
Which bit isn't he to blame for?!

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14 Jun 2015 12:23:46
I refuse to believe that all the signings made when Rodgers were completely down to him. So yeah he's not all to blame, that's not to say I wouldn't have preferred Klopp.

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14 Jun 2015 12:41:52
How is he not fully to blame? He gave his approval on all players signed, we have been playing crap football, got embarrassed in Europe, finished sixth, the only manager not to win anything in 3 years,we suffered the worse defeat in like 50 years and has driven out of the club players like Gerrard and Agger and also driving Lucas out of the club, all players who truly love the club! Who else should we blame for all of the above?

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14 Jun 2015 12:41:54
To answer Essex red, hiring himself!

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14 Jun 2015 10:58:30
I mean quality wise Ed. Milner may well be first choice, but I don't think he is anything special. He brings experience and he's a hard worker, but unless he is Sterlings replacement, I really don't see any point in signing him. We already have tons of attacking midfielders at the club.

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{Ed002's Note - In that case I don't know what you mean by "squad player". I get you don't think he is good enough. Try daubing abuse on the walls of the stadium and see if that gets noticed.}

14 Jun 2015 12:53:26
Fair enough he didn't hire himself, I'll give you that. The rest he's 100% responsible

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14 Jun 2015 13:00:14
I can't think of an example of a player being given the captains armband straight after transferring from another club (although Rogers has practically monopolised the concept of being tactless). Surely Henderson or Lucas are the appropriate candidates. I'd like to see Milner bust a gut for the club before he is offered such an important role. He may have medals, experience and leadership qualities (so does Toure) but is he going to lead by example because his heart is in the club?
Then again maybe, in the modern era of football, the captains armband should go to the highest paid player with the most Twitter followers?

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14 Jun 2015 14:07:11
Enrique's in with a shout on that score then.

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14 Jun 2015 14:43:32
Paul Ince at Liverpool?

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{Ed001's Note - yeah and that was a huge mistake, as was buying him.}

14 Jun 2015 15:32:14
Hopefully Milner is more successful then. Altho i'd like Hendo to be given the captaincy

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14 Jun 2015 18:48:02
BR is responsible for all our on-pitch issues and saying the contrary is just moral dishonesty. By saying he is not in charge of all the players coming in is just false because if he wasn't, why is he so quick to take the credit anytime a player is playing well yet when a player or the team does badly, he throws them under the bus to save his own skin? If FSG kept him then they have failed miserably at making the hard choices needed to take us forward and as have been said before, they chose to keep him because they weren't happy with the options provided them YET they are firing everybody else on the staff but the man in charge like that will make it better. I have never seen a big club where a manager's staff was fired they kept said manager in place.that makes no sense and IMO, a recipe for failure.

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14 Jun 2015 20:44:20
Couldn't agree more

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14 Jun 2015 22:29:10
You just emphasised my point Ohio, in that last sentence. The reason they have fired everyone but the manager is because they will never find another manager willing to put up with what Brendan has to. Even Martinez turned his nose up at FSG.

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15 Jun 2015 04:45:21
In some way, you are right however, it is a cop out because any other manager that is being treated that way as we claim, would have walked and kept his dignity intact. Jose Camacho quit Real Madrid before a ball was kicked in 2003 because he refused to work under Perez's dictatorial conditions. Still has his dignity till this day. The owners look like amateurs for sure but if BR chooses to work under those conditions then that means he's fine with it hence, if he fails, HE should be responsible for it and not the owners. You hail him when we win and blame the owners when we lose. That makes no sense. Btw, Martinez is an aweful manager and as clueless tactically as BR so he should shut his gob about the owners and how he rejected us because they never offered him the job to begin with. He'd better focus on Everton escaping the drop next season because that's what he's good at.

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14 Jun 2015 10:26:17
Hi Ed.

Is Montoya or Clyne the more likely to happen?

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{Ed002's Note - I still don't see RB as a priority and for now would not hold my breath over either moving to Liverpool.}

14 Jun 2015 10:53:00
Looking likely that the club will give Manquillo and Wisdom a fair chance if a RB does not come in. Decent decision on the club's part to at least give two young a players a chance than flogging them like they have done with so many players before.

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14 Jun 2015 11:10:20
Right back should definitely be a priority in my opinion. Emre Can did his best covering there last season, but was pretty poor in all honesty. We had to play a back 3 to compensate for not having a right back and almost every player has been played at right wing back, but still that area of the pitch is a problem.

Could Wisdom be the one to solve the problem? Who knows, but it's definitely an area that needs addressing.

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{Ed001's Note - it just makes it all the more idiotic selling Kelly.}

14 Jun 2015 11:20:46
I agree ed. Kelly is a decent player.

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14 Jun 2015 11:43:47
If RB isn't a priority expect that to be the next signing we make.

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14 Jun 2015 11:07:54
Can I ask Ed, do you think rb is not a priority because the club may continue to develop and play manquillo, or because Can may play that role, or just that other positions are a more urgent priority?

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{Ed002's Note - The manager has not been playing with a RB as such and has Manquillo, Wisdom, Toure and Flanagan who can play there. Alternatively Wisdom, Can and Toure can play on the right side of a back three.}

14 Jun 2015 18:50:16
Yet we have ended up with Ibe, Sterling, Marko and Can playing RWB, none of whom are defenders. BR's brilliance knows no bounds.

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14 Jun 2015 10:24:34
Hi eds, I was wondering if you could provide an update on the strikers we have serious interest in. Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any changes at this time. Liverpool are overrun with forwards already. Right now it is something like this for the players that I understand have been looked at:
Mandzukic - Someone representing Liverpool has approached his agent, but as of this time, not Atletico.
Ings - This has happened.
Benteke - interest has returned.
Ntep - Stade Rennais' Paul Georges Ntep has been watched.
Vietto - talking to Atletico Madrid regarding replacing Griezmann and was hoping on Real Madrid turning to him - has made it clear he wants a move to Atletico - and this has made Real Madrid look elsewhere.
Heung Min Son - I suspect it would be very difficult to make happen as he seems very happy where he is and will be playing in the Champions League.
Carlos Vela - looked at recently but nothing more.
Aubameyang - looked at and there may be interest from Liverpool - he is keen on a move to Italy but the most interested side, Juventus, are now out of the running.
Gameiro - his stock is on the rise but Liverpool have had no recent contact (according to a representative of another interested club).
Baez - Liverpool have recently been told to say if they are still interested in Baez or not - and if they are to make an offer which is much improved over that offered to Juventud previously - I understand that there has been no response and Juventud are now in talks with another side regarding a transfer - this is probably one to forget now.
Kishna - all English interest has gone or never materialised according to De Boer.
Lacazette - another English side met with Lyon about Lacazette and a number of other issues on April 9 and any move this summer, particularly to England, is not viable right now although interest remains from elsewhere - Aulas has mocked rumours that Liverpool could buy the player.
Firmino - he will most probably move with a number of clubs having made formal approaches, and Manchester City, Inter and another side having had formal discussions with Hoffenheim.
Depay - moving elsewhere.
Bakkali - interest will have gone.
Andre Ayew - a free agent who Liverpool enquired about last summer - going elsewhere.
Walcott - if Sterling were to leave then a move for Walcott may be considered.
Cheryshev - if Sterling were to leave then a move for Cheryshev may be considered.

14 Jun 2015 10:17:29
I think after Kovacic, we won't see much activity in bringing in players for a while.
We've got so many layers on our books that are up for Sale, and I think the priority will be that we need to find them new clubs, whether permanently or on loan.
Enrique, Borini, Lambert, Balotelli, Sterling, Ilori, Coates, Lucas (sadly), Alberto, and Yesil.

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14 Jun 2015 10:58:46
What about the top striker the club desperately needs? Just because the club is overrun with players does not mean LFC will finish in the top4 next season. There are options out there like Tevez, Aubameyang etc that can be got if enough effort and desire is shown on the club's part. If the club's main aim is to cut the squad size, then it should start selling unwanted players as soon as possible. Coates, Sterling, Borini, Lambert will find buyers easily. Lucas and Ilori should stay if Skrtel quits. Alberto, Balo and Enrique are the 3 players that will take some effort to shift but the club should be doing everything possible to get rid than keeping them on the books as an excuse to not sign the required players (top striker in LFC's case).

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14 Jun 2015 18:56:09
Have been posting the same thing about the top striker position like you, Indian but still no one has answered that as it seems all we can do is collect mids with no idea who will score the goals that win you games. The excuse that we are overrun with strikers is a dumb argument. We are overrun with strikers who either can't score, can't stay fit, can't get a game or aren't good enuff to score the twenty plus goals needed to compete at the top end. Meaning? We have NO strikers.

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14 Jun 2015 10:17:20
Hi eds.

Any truth in the charlie austin rumours this morning? Saying he's not rodgers's first choice striker but is interested??

Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - See earlier answers.}

14 Jun 2015 10:03:55
Just wondering has there been a complication in the Kovacic deal that has caused the delay in it being confirmed? I know you kindly told us on Friday fees were agreed at that point.

Thanks again for everything Eds.

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

14 Jun 2015 10:16:30
Cheers. I Love You. X

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14 Jun 2015 09:27:08
Morning Eds, hope you are well this morning?

With the signings of Milner, Ings and bogdan complete and kovacic looking nearly done, do you think that is largely our business completed? I would hate to think we will bring in many more and have all the difficulties of intergrating a raft of new players once again.

If they are the signings, do you think it indicates a change to last years system now that we are so heavily stacked with midfielders ? Or is it just a case of the club getting who it wants first before moving on some of the existing players?

I'm actaually excited to see Henderson, Milner and Kovacic running the midfield, with Ings, coutinho and Markovic breaking in behind defences ( acknowledging that Sturridge won't be playing till October) I think this could be Markovic's year to really shine and whilst I'm sorry about sterling going, I don't want players who don't want to be there and it might be quite nice to make a profit for once in the transfer window!!!

Thanks, take Care

Hoody

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{Ed002's Note - Jones and Gerrard are gone. The club are wanting to move on forwards. You seem to have missed that.}

14 Jun 2015 19:00:36
Hoody, who will score the goals needed to compete for the top four because based on the 4-7-0 formation vs Stoke, flooding the midfield is a recipe for monumental disaster?

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14 Jun 2015 09:23:25
Morning Ed's,

Has there been any further developments re Kovacic? I'm actually in Croatia as we speak, so I'm wondering if it's a bit premature to be picking up my Croatia shirt with Kovacic on the back.

Also, is there any truth in the Austin rumours this morning? Another underwhelming signing if true - something really needs to change with regards to the transfer committee!

Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - I would not think there would be any issues buying a Croatia shirt with his name on. I understand he will continue to represent Croatia.

Austin? What happened with Ibrahimovich, Tevez and Falcao?}

14 Jun 2015 10:23:35
haha good one ed002

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14 Jun 2015 06:59:36
So any new songs in the offing for our new signings yet?

Can I suggest "Ings can only get better" to the D:ream tune??

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14 Jun 2015 07:45:09
I'm sure your joking Mick, well I hope you are lad!

Imagine that for a dent of the confidence.

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14 Jun 2015 08:45:46
Surely it has to be 'The best Ings in life are free' by I think it was errr Janet Jackson.

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14 Jun 2015 09:06:48
yes very much joking.

Though the quality of new songs has decreased since the Rafa years.

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14 Jun 2015 09:10:02
How about Westlife 'flying without Ings' just to kick him when he's down.

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14 Jun 2015 09:31:43
INGS. To the tune of sing by ed sheeran

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14 Jun 2015 09:38:05
Wild Ings

You make my heart sing

You give everything

And so on

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14 Jun 2015 09:55:40
Raoul takes the prize for me, good shout.

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14 Jun 2015 10:05:45
How about something a little more positive, like Daniel Merriweathers 'you took some Ings perfect and painted it red'?

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14 Jun 2015 10:26:54
"Ings ain't wot they used to be!"

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14 Jun 2015 10:48:46
The wind beneath my ings? ;)

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14 Jun 2015 12:40:56
That's not my name, by the Ing Ings.

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14 Jun 2015 06:04:02
Hi all, been away for some time. Really surprised to see the changes to the site. On to matters arising- I feel BR should go, but since FSG thinks only his staff are culpable, I have no option but to accept and endure if necessary. Concerning transfers, I feel Bodgan was unnecessary. What we need is a replacement for Migs. Milner will be an excellent signing, but Ings? Really? Why not a proven striker? Kovacic will be fine, but we now have to sell Allen. Sterling can go. As Jamie said, a 20 yo should not be holding LFC to ransom. keeping fingers crossed for rest of the window.
Cheers.

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14 Jun 2015 19:08:21
His assistants are not responsible for a single thing, sorry. Were his assistants responsible for us almost winning the PL, last season? Never saw them taking the credit in the media anytime we played well and won. All I saw was BR taking all the credit and had we succeeded this season, you would ever see his assistants doing the presses. Now suddenly with his job on the line, it's the assistants's fault. Don't you think that's strange? If you believe they were the culprits then I have a swamp in Florida I can sell you. If it's too good to be true, it prolly is.

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14 Jun 2015 03:42:50
I strongly believe a team plays better when there is no star player. some one will step up.

I see coutinho. going forward more often next season.

May be a player in milner will try to prove his worth in midfield. and an obvious return of sturridge.


Liverpool are still behind the race for top 4. but man utd was never a convincing 4th spot winners.

It will be difficult to take other spots when wenger, mourinho are alive.

Also manc has strong team strong.but i have a belief all players will give their best. especially hope lucas will play a last season with a min 20 starts.

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14 Jun 2015 07:46:06
You've got a short memory if you've already.forgotten Suarez' last season with us.

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14 Jun 2015 19:10:16
Did we not almost win the league with arguably the best striker on the planet at the time? Or is he not a star player?

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14 Jun 2015 00:45:05
Hey Eds, Hearing Pepijn Lijnders is being promoted to first team coach? Seems odd have you heard anything? Thanks for your time

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{Ed001's Note - why would that be odd? He certainly seems the favourite to be promoted after having impressed considerably during his time with us, and before that with Porto.}

14 Jun 2015 08:28:20
Ed do you have any knowledge of his methods and why he is so well respected.

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{Ed001's Note - there is a link up on the rumours page regarding him, which gives a quick overview. Basically he is a career coach who is a good coach rather than just a former player with no idea about coaching. He emphasises attacking football with a high press, his idea being you get the ball back as high up the pitch as possible because that is when it presents a real danger to your opponent. His methods are to work on that, allied to a high technical level of touch, control, passing and quick movement into space to receive the ball. You do not get a job with Porto's youth system unless you are seen as top level, they have possibly the best youth system in European football, mostly because they get lots of the best coaches they can find. Oh and he actually talks well, says the right things. I can see him graduating to head coach somewhere in the next 5 years or so.}

14 Jun 2015 08:44:25
Ed1 sounds like a really good choice then if the club go with it?

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{Ed001's Note - everyone I have spoken to thinks he is an excellent choice.}

14 Jun 2015 10:39:44
Cheers ed much appreciated.

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14 Jun 2015 19:15:28
Sounds like the high press to me tho I may be wrong. Seems like a good choice and hopefully, BR will have little to no influence on the tactics and system because even after three years and over 200m spent, he still doesn't know his best eleven nor his best system because he seems to make it up as he goes on.

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14 Jun 2015 01:35:02
Any interest in

Schmielcal, Cech or Lopez (Milan)

And

Medel, naiggolan,

AA

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14 Jun 2015 12:33:26
You realise we have just signed bogdan

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14 Jun 2015 01:33:57
Hi Eds,

This Kovacic thing is a weird one, huh? Even before the latest rash of rumors we've had lots of foreign sources talking about the deal as though it's almost complete, while the English press is STILL throwing their hands up as though not even a scrap of it is true. I'm not really inclined to believe either side, though with you yourselves saying that we're at least in negotiations, there must be SOME smoke to this fire.

As far as you know, has there been any real progress made in the last few days? Thanks!

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{Ed001's Note - we have already said a deal has been agreed with Inter.}

14 Jun 2015 01:07:18
few papers reporting Liverpool will hijack Newcastles bid for Charlie Ausitn. Had a great season but not sure he is good enough to lead us to top four

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14 Jun 2015 07:07:53
Not good enough, scouts must do better than that.

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{Ed001's Note - he outscored Ings.}

14 Jun 2015 07:43:56
Saod before if it was a direct choce between the two then Austin would be the better option.

Two from Sturridge, Origi, Ings and Austin would not be all that bad.

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14 Jun 2015 07:46:55
He's better than Ings.

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14 Jun 2015 08:01:18
Would have preferred austin tbh, maybe not as technical but a strong player with an eye for a goal and a good shot. Would have been a good foil for sturridge as he is good running the channels and popping up in the box at the right time.

Will we be getting him on top of ings? Sadly that ship has sailed, but hopefully if we can sell our surplus strikers we will look to bring in a higher quality player ala higuain or aubemyang.

By the way, i am not ings bashing, when some were clamouring for vietto i noticed that he had only scored 12 last season and no guarantee he will adapt to the prem. You could also argue he played in a better team than ings. So i am willing to give ings a chance to prove himself.

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14 Jun 2015 19:18:05
Ron, I guess the same review that kept your BFF in place is the same one that revamped the scouting dept that you are now slating. LOL!

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13 Jun 2015 23:18:41
Non LFC I know but I'd love to have the eds 1 and. 2 answer why and how Belgium became such a force in world football (ignoring Fri result)
There must have been a visionary 10/20 years back to put in place a strategy to produce the talent they now have,who was he and what did he do differently to the UK.
EMS'S opinion also appreciated as I have a lot of respect for his views

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14 Jun 2015 00:31:13
most likely answer is probably better coaches. also their league isn't filled with overrated foreign players thus their youth players get a chance. i mean how are england going to produce good coaches/managers when people like stuart pearce and the same old faces keep getting jobs.

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14 Jun 2015 01:28:21
What have I missed? Have they won something?

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14 Jun 2015 01:30:20
Rooney, Owen, Beckham, gerrard, Scholes, Lampard, ferdinand, Terry, cole, neville, seaman

Good players like downing, Walcott, Barry, Milner, crouch!!

We had our golden generation like France, Brazil before us and before Germany, Spain and now Belgium and it looks like France are getting another wave.

We had our chance with those players we just didn't use them right.

we had Carrick, Scholes, rooney, ferdnan, neville etc all winning league titles and we should of built are style on how they were playing and filled in the blanks.

We're due another boom in about 5/10 years.

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14 Jun 2015 02:09:22
Simple! They followed the French and Spanish model by revamping their academy structures, age group coaching methods and investment in grassroots footie. The team you have today has its foundation in the 2008 Olympic team whic came on the heels of the U-18 team that included Hazard and Benteke. With that, came exposure of these players in the bigger leagues like Kompany (already a starter at Anderlecht at 17) who went to Hamburg, Vertonghen, Vermalaen (both at Ajax), Mirallas and Hazard who stared at Lille, Debruyne and Coutois (from Gent), Dembele, Pocognoli, and so on. It also helps if you have a legend in Wilmots as coach. A team like that doesn't just happen. It's a ground up approach that takes time and growing pains along the way. Germany copied the same thing from the French as well. Now they pretty much have an assembly line of players for two decades to come. Like I sad, it's that simple.

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14 Jun 2015 05:14:04
Are Belgium a force in world football? They have produced a lot of talent in recent years for a small nation but a force in world football they are not.

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{Ed001's Note - they won't be a force until they get a decent striker.}

14 Jun 2015 07:04:25
Good reply Max Renn.
They've won nothing but have managed to get themselves ranked number 2 in the world!

Part of the reason is the rankings as they are produced by FIFA.

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