Liverpool Banter Archive May 14 2014

 

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14 May 2014 23:20:22
Firstly any half negative comments are meant as constructive critisim - not that I want the player replaced etc.

Watched the game tonight and overall was impressed with a number of the players; also good to hear Mcmanaman staying that some would not go on loan as they would play in the league cup next season.

Love the new away kit; even the keepers (compared to the pink home one) ;o)

Ibe did very well (not sure why Robinson, Birmingham criticised him or whether it was justified); still think he has a lot to learn; maybe not going on loan would help learning off Suarez and Sturridge next year; or whether to do a Suso and play more games.

Nice to see Kelly play 90 mins; a few mistakes but then again it was end of season friendly.

Thought Randall looked good when he come on and was good to see so many players playing how the 1st team plays with pace and power as well as some guile.

Teixeria is interesting; very confident on the ball (then he was when Sporting Lisbon smashed us in the next Gen) but think with a Gerrard and Henderson around him would be an even better player.

Great to see the youngsters getting an opportunity (shame Rossitor didn't play - not sure if he was aailable though).

I think we've got a good future and even if the player(s) don't make it with us they are liekly to have some resale value which we've not had in the past.

Side note (if BBC website is correct) we topped the money chart (due to 3 more tv appearances than Man City) this year; don't think it will sort our finances though as we now need more players and the salary that goes with them (not forgetting bonuses for Champs League etc. ) - still hopefully heading in the right direction.

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Rossiter is injured and also missed the semi-final of the U-21's game against Manchester United U-21's due to this injury.

I like the new kit too, it is not as bad as I expected it to be.

Robinson at Birmingham is a common street thug. Also, he apparently was criticizing Ibe, but the others players on loan at the club. He shouldn't have a lot to criticize because Ibe was largely responsible for Birmingham staying up, especially in that last match.

Teixeira and Randall, I have answered below.

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I read Robinson said everyone on loan except ibe apparently he was good for them!

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14 May 2014 23:02:20
Editors, is there any indication that LFC scouts have been watching Tony Jantsche during the past Bundesliga season: there's so much paper talk about the number of transfers in/out at LFC over the next 2.5 months, but I hope Glen Johnson gets moved on, he flatters to deceive and it's time we moved him on.

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{Ed002's Note - None.}

14 May 2014 22:27:54
LS needs to come out and make his intentions clear. We can't go into a World a Cup with constant speculation over his future. His intentions will have an influence on the club's ability to attract the 'quality' players BR has spoken about.

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He doesn't need to do anything, he signed a contract, he said nothing about wanting to leave & so far that is enough for me.

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I think FSG made it clear enough.

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He came out and said the only thing he is thinking about was the world cup with Uruguay and it was all just speculation

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{Ed002's Note - The interest in him is not speculation. His advisors talking to see what options are available is not speculation. The terms of his contract and the finances are speculation.}

14 May 2014 22:11:58
Sometimes its hard to be sure on a player from another league making the grade from the off . lamela soldado etc but rakitic is a worldy . Whoever gets him will be lucky . I suspect we won't have the funds to get him . Top class

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The problem with players like Rakitic is that he is already 26 years old. He is undoubtedly a top top player but I would think Liverpool would stay clear of paying hefty fees for some one entering their late twenties in a few seasons.

A little envious of the likes of Man City being able to spend 30million on a 28/29 year old Fernandio to add real competition to their squad.

Then again Adam Lallana has just turned 26, and we should get the best 5 years of his career if he signs. I would imagine we would only sign one of the two if we where interested in both that is.

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15 May 2014 07:37:08
Firmino, Excellent Player, I have seen him play, He has Goals in him and he is naturally gifted. Anything below 20 mill would be a stealler.

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14 May 2014 22:08:10
Hey eds, not posted in a while, I was just wondering if there is any interest in Andre Gomes from benfica, he's seems to be running the game and is just out powering and pacing rakitic, looks a brilliant player but to be fair I don't know his age or how good he actually is this is based on one game, reply would be appreciated eds.

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{Ed002's Note - Not from Liverpool.}

14 May 2014 22:00:17
All the rubbish about Saurez today.

Come on, we all know the only thing he cares about is Luis Saurez. FSG have played a blinder imo.

If he stays, we have possibly the 3rd best player on the planet, if he goes we are in CL, have Coutinho or sterling to play in No 10 role with Sturridge up front, with 100m in the bank to add whatever else FSG are giving BR to stregnthen in the summer.

If he has 60m, that is 160m to buy another couple of Attack Minded forwards, a CM and a left back.

We have Borini and Suso coming back, life goes on and it could be a blessing in disguise him going.

imo it would only be Madrid, how the hell could Barca afford 100m and 250k after tax. They have other area's of their team they need to stregnthen more.

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Yes, money in the bank but a player like Suarez is irreplacable. How many premier league points does he give us? Having said that, belief, positivity and a good team ethos would still make us very competitive.

Could we challenge for premier league title without Suarez?

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Yes and once we got all that money in the bank we could even go and buy back Suarez - errr

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It is an interesting situation. To sell him and essentially rebuild with 3-4 players with the money received is somewhat of a gamble. His class on the pitch is undeniable and we already know this. I would personally prefer him to stay as he offers so much to the team. I understand we are not set a budget in stone like on Football Manager, but 3-4 good signings in addition to a few of the returning loanees sets us up nicely in my opinon

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15 May 2014 20:29:49
1. If we sell Suarez it will be for considerably less than 100m
2. I doubt we are spending 60m net (35-40m sounds more feasible)
3. That means you are about 60m out which is more than we can put down to an accounting error.
4. Money won't buy someone who instills as much fear/trepidation into our opponents as Suarez does.
5. He's nailed down - he only gets out by forcing it. His focus this summer is the World Cup. Next year more likely that he leaves as he's still just about in his peak years (and is never injured)

Apart from all that I agree with everything you said.

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14 May 2014 21:41:56
The curious case of the Liverpool RB and is it good bye to Glen?

Unlike the issue of the LB, what will happen at RB is still up for debate. Currently We have Several British (and Irish) talents at RB in Glen Johnson, Jon Flanno, Wisdom, Martin Kelly and McLaughlin.

This is a lot of players especially with the form that Glen has had this season and the wages he's on, his age and the most important to me his almost couldn't care attitude that has been highlighted by the energy of Flanno on the opposite side.

To me we should sell Johnson and replace him with the talent we have. With Flanno 1st choice (and able to cover LB if needed) with Wisdom offering competition. Along side a Kelly offering depth at both CB and RB with McLaughlin being more of a chance to prove him self next season.

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14 May 2014 21:48:03
I completely agree. Conor Randall is also a very good prospect for RB and he's scouse so that position is covered for years :)

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It's not covered if these players can't step up to PL and CL level. Statistically very few youth team players make it at the highest level. We are punching above our weight at the moment in this regard but we shouldn't expect every talented youngster to step up. Kelly needs to prove his fitness, Wisdom still needs to improve in all areas and the others are way off just now. For all his faults Johnson is streets ahead.

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Yep rather see a kid who cared than johnson
He doesn't seem motivated

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I agree with Anfieldboy. I would worry if we did not replace Johnson.
All of the other players mentioned have hardly featured in the first team apart from Flanno and Kelly.

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It will be difficult to move Johnson on; so I rather think he will stay another year, hopefully by then McLaughlin would be ready.

I think it is between Wisdom and Kelly, we need to choose one and stick with him.

Randall is a good player and will be making the step up regularly to the U-21's next season.

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15 May 2014 08:39:40
well I would be pissed off if we replaced Johnson, when we have Jon Flanagan and Andre Wisdom both are much better defenders and just as good going forward. Iwill never get this spending mentality, it's nonsense!

Glen Johnson is the last player on earth who needs replacing. None of those replacments will come close to Flanagans level, or Mclaughlins potential and will only ruin their careers at Liverpool. No thanks! Also Martin Kelly was without competition the best young defender at the club before his injury and he is on his way back slowly. The notion of spending money on replacing a player who have contributed almost nothing is just plain dumb!

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Johnson has contributed nothing? We finished 2nd and we play as a team so please give him some respect. People aren't so quick to seize on Flanagans shortcomings and there are many. Let's not allow a lynch mob mentality to force out a guy who would be snapped up by a rival. Flanagan is improving, Wisdom could make it. That's where we are right now.

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15 May 2014 10:13:04
Anfieldboy I respect your posts and opinions, but on this one I couldn't disagree more. He has contributed less than nothing, he has been responsible for around 8 goals conceded and has 2 assists! And don't kid yourself about him being snapped up by a rival mate, we are struggling to offload him on the very very cheap due to no interest what so ever. Flanagan has been really good at his wrong position. He is a RB, please go watch Liverpool vs Everton, Liverpool vs Arsenal (livefootballvideo.com) he was playing RB both those games and tell me then Flanagan isn't twice the player Johnson is and I will hold my hands up and say let's keep Johnson.

the website I mentioned has all our full matches and every full match really. Fantastic really:) Just like this site :))

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When its like playing with ten men I don't think glen johnson deserves the term 'replacing'

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We will agree to disagree about what I don't know. He frustrates me too, but I think you gloss over his positive contributions. Anyway, it's not my opinion that matters. Our manager picks him when he's fit. And so does the England manager who has more freedom to choose players that some on her think could do a better job (Richards, Clyne, Flanagan). But he doesn't and I do know he knows more about football than us fellers tapping a keypad!

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14 May 2014 20:24:20
Harry tjred never mentioned the word brilliant. he's aiming his words towards the effort made by lucas to improve. Fans like yourself want macherano to replace him? The same dude that treated the club and fans like sh*t?
Arnt you on borrowed time harry? ;)

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{Ed002's Note - He is very much on borrowed time - I won't be taking any more BS.}

Well said. And also, what Harry said is in no way offensive to me. I may disagree totally with a lot that he says, but he's entitled to it. I just don't like when people are always looking at the negatives.

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{Ed002's Note - We are not looking for folks to have to distinguish between offensive or not. I am responsible for anything offensive here. You, Harry and all of the others need to be friends - Banter is fine, but abuse isn't. This is a general warning to everyone. I don't want to see Liverpool supporters trashing the players, particularly given a large number seem to want a player who was going on strike back. It will be a busy summer - don't screw with us.}

Lucas has been very unlucky with injuries over the past 2 years. Coincidencly our defence has leaked goals since these injuries.
I'd have Lucas ahead off a Strike merchant like Masch. I loved the guy before he left, but to me, he worse than Torres.

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I think it's fine to have opinions about a player but there's no need to trash each other. We are all on the same side. There are always controversial issues in football, but stick to discussing the issue, not each other.

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No need to explain to me ed. Only thing I whine about is effort.

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I also think there's space for everyone on here. I may disagree with a lot of what Home Fan says, but I recognise it's all because of his passion for LFC. I've got no problem with him even if he does think I'm talking tripe all the time. There's always a need for alternative points of view.

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The trashing has gone on on this site for years it's nothing new at all.

Surprised so many people seem to think it hasn't.

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15 May 2014 06:15:20
just have to say I hate player trashing we all have good and bad days, but these guys have pulled their stones out all season to get where they finished so here's a novelty support your teams players. BTW eds, enjoy your summer and thanks for your efforts and insight

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Edd002 great work dude, i'd give you.a hug and a sneaky kiss if circumstances were different

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Ed2. Best behaviour from now on from me!
Banning me from this site is equal to cutting my balls off!
I might actually have to start concentrating on my marriage:)

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14 May 2014 19:52:40
the commentator on the EUFA cup match has just said that there will be a UEFA directive comming out for next season, that if a player has to leave the pitch because of an injury caused by a foul, then the player who fouled him will have to leave the pitch for the same time.
Thats not going to get abused at all!

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I thought that was just a suggestion from Collini - are they actually going to implement it?

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14 May 2014 19:20:43
Hi Eds
Any news on Pepe Reina? I heard there might be a U-turn with him & he could be coming back next season. I hope so, I know there was all the flirtation with Barca & some sort of fall out with Rodgers but he is a great keeper & I think we'd of been a lot better defensively this season with him in goal, he's not scared to have a go at the defence & has great vision for attacking play, I really hope there is a way back for him, also looking forward to see how Borini, Ibe, Suso, Wisdom & Ilori fit back into the team, add Reina to that it's like 6 new signings coming in.

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{Ed002's Note - I would think Reina will move to Napoli. Interest from elsewhere is thin on the ground.}

When the keeper tells you he wants to go to barcelona because valdes is quitting and insists you let him go. Then changes his mind after you've bought a replacement for him. Then bitches whilst out on loan that he didn't get why he was sent on loan. He's kind of burnt his bridges.

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14 May 2014 19:13:16
BBC report lfc had the biggest income this season from tv and league finishing place. 92mil It said. Being on more sky games with the cl, do you see Liverpool turning over a profit in this, or the next, financial year Ed02?

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{Ed002's Note - I am not going to discuss the finances. Sorry.}

14 May 2014 19:10:03
we have signed two keepers both for the future 16yr called tomms? huge young lad looks about 20 he is a international polish I think and a 20yr old from spurs both will be announced shortly

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We signed a lad from Melbourne, Australia last week too. Didn't catch his name but is supposed to be a prospect.

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If its a keeper that is 20yo from spurs then it is Lawrence Vigouroux (English/Chilean) who has had trails at Liverpool in april.

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The Australian lad is Jake Brimmer. Apparently BR saw him during our tour last year and was very impressed.

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14 May 2014 18:12:08
Hi Ed's, great job as always, was just reading that we've got the best part of a 100 mil for tv rights, so was curious to what we would get for coming 2nd financially along with any other revenue for the season. The reason why I'm that concerned is that we made a loss last year, we want to spend on about 5 players and the financial fair play could come back to haunt us next yeat! Many thanks

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{Ed002's Note - I am not going to discuss the finances. Sorry.}

Thanks anyway, bit of a grey area, sure the club have it all in hand!

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14 May 2014 17:53:58
Hi Eds, Are we still looking at Konoplyanka? And also the you player called Bruma plays in the Portuguese league can't remember who he playes for. But he is like sterling, very pacey good shot. Any interest in him? Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - I am guessing you are reading some year old Twitter stuff. Try the search function.}

14 May 2014 19:31:59
Didnt watch the game but it seemed a very intense affair from the Liverpool side who were made up of players with a point to prove, ibe and borini sounded excellent, the futures bright :)

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14 May 2014 20:10:20
Ibe was brilliant but could and should have scored twice! Brad Smith played really well. Borini was decent but looked a bit tired after a long season, Aspas had a lot of very good touches and looked a good player! Conor Randall and Cameron Brannagan impressed from the bench and Jack Dunn scored from his only touch I think :) Martin Kelly looked good at the back as well but made a couple of mistakes towards the end of each half!
We should have scored a lot more and Brad Jones made a couple of decent saves.

But it was vs Shamrock so I can't wait until preseason to see those youngsters vs a higher quality opposition!

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Mate, to very briefly conclude, cash in what we can get for Aspas and Borini. And pay what it takes it get Lallana.
He is first team ready, the other two are not.

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Ibe played well for the most part, but really should have had at least a brace but didn't due to poor finishing.

Borini was solid- worked hard, got in good positions, and bagged a well-taken goal.

For the others, bit of a mixed bag.

Thought Teixeira looked very composed on the ball. Clever player.

Aspas was quite decent, had a few very nifty passes, a goal, and perhaps should have another one. He's a bit of a strange for me as he'll have an absolutely beautiful touch on one occasion to bring down a ball and then completely make a poor 3 foot pass 30 seconds later. Can't quite figure the guy out.

Kelly was playing LCB which I thought a bit weird. He didn't seem very comfortable there if I'm being honest. Think he played the whole game if I remember correctly.

As for the younger players, I don't personally know them as well so struggled a bit to figure out who was who and couldn't really comment much on them.

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RDL - Aspas might be confidence (not saying it is or isn't) but with limited opportunities sometimes you can over try.

I thought the youngsters done well; from what I saw of the game; Ibe was good but then again would need to be better against better opposition (not sure if a loan or sticking around would be best for him next season - sure the club will make the right decision).

Randall looked v good.

I think Teixeria is the type of player that players better with better players (if you know what I mean); although some good touches and obviously is very composed.

Great 4th goal.

Great support from the Irish fans as well.

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Could be Hoola, I really don't know. I just find it a bit of a strange. Brilliant back heel almost assist one minute, the next a simple pass misses it's mark by a mile. Weird.

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If I am being honest I thought Borini and Teixeira had poor games. They are capable of much better. I though Borini slowed things down on a quick counter and he looked knackered.

Same with Teixeira and I have noticed this on a number of occasions for the U-21's this year too, he slows things down and takes too much time on the ball. It is almost arrogance thinking he can outwit his opponent but it doesn't help the team sometimes. I just think playing him as a LM at the U-21's hasn't helped. Usually when you play in different positions you improve certain skills, but Teixeira seem to have regressed slightly. He was a flowing player always looking for the one-twos and trying to do things first time but have changed a lot.

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I agree with the real AG. Teixeira seemed to turn his back to goal almost every time he got the ball and attacks slowed drastically. He reminds me a little of suso (not in looks). He also seemed to slow the play when I saw him in the youth/reserves teams. Havent seen him this season so can't comment on how he plays now though. Teixeira needs to keep the ball moving forward is my only real criticism of him.

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14 May 2014 18:40:53
Ibe on 2 assists already, aspas and borini netting one each.

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Come on lads it's Shamrock Rovers, let's not get over excited, these guys are League 2 standard at best.

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14 May 2014 21:18:03
Give them some credit, if they'd played poorly you'd be raving about how we should be beating Shamrock Rovers more comfortably. Few first team players and the youngsters did look hungry. This was the chance to show their ability to a manager willing to give them a chance.

I thought Borini look good. McLaughlin was solid and Smith look a cracking prospect at left back. Ibe was very good too. Didn't see as much of the second half though.

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14 May 2014 23:03:48
Was at the match that ibe is a rough diamond when he sorts out his finishing he will be a star he was hard for shamrock to handle.

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Then by that notion B teams should be welcome as our u21 basically beat them.

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14 May 2014 18:31:45
He scores when he wants, he scores when he wants! As long as the game is completely meaningless, Aspas scores when he wants!

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Kinda difficult to score when you're on the bench and playing out of position. I'm guessing you don't appreciate the work Lucas has put in over the years too.

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It is hard to defend Aspas after THAT corner!

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14 May 2014 17:43:46
I see Martin Kelly playing centre half tonight. I'd like to see him given the chance in there next season. Big, strong in the tackle, good in the air, decent pace and whenever he's played you don't see a mistake in him.
I feel with centre halfs it's as important to know what they're not going to do as it is what they are going to do.

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Good god it's Shamrock Rovers, at best a poor League 2 team in England, AT BEST .

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Kelly has proven he can play at Premier league level when he is free of injuries is all he's saying!

Especially in the defence which I think everyone will admit has been our biggest problem this season.

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But you've still got to beat them and perform at a fairly high level. Considering a lot of that team were youth players I think they played very well and were a credit to our club and the work that has gone on for many years to get them to this level.

Very impressed with what I saw tonight lads and I look forward to seeing them young lads more next season.

The future is bright

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If anyone was going to change things around and take a risk, it will be BR. But I cannot just see Kelly being asked to play CB next year. Maybe in the FA or League cups or when we play 3 at the back?

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Kelly could start ahead of johnson at right back. I could certainly see Kelly starting Centreback. he's got the talent. It's whether BR trusts him.

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Kelly is not better than Johnson though. Johnson should only be replaced by someone better than Johnson.

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{Ed001's Note - Kelly is much better, as is Wisdom and Flanagan. Any of them could replace him. Though personally I would prefer to see Kelly play at centre back, as he would hopefully suffer less injuries there.}

In your opinion Ed. Not in Brendan or Roy's and they know more than us.

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{Ed001's Note - right, so in other words you have nothing to offer as an opinion of your own. Pointless post this. Just being a sheep unable to make up their own mind. Even the great Bill Shankly got it wrong at times. Though at least he would have got it wrong for himself, rather than just because someone else says it, so it must be true.}

14 May 2014 17:43:29
Just 2 years. and we will have the best LB in the League. Brad Smith. Pace. Power. and Clinical.
He would make Enrique warm the bench for life.

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I reckon if smith can get the level of confidence and arrogance that shaw has he will be just as good.

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I really don't think he stood out too much, in neither the good department or bad. Man Harry, when you make a statement, you throw all your eggs in one basket. let's wait until we see him play against EPL opposition before we deem him the next Messi. I agree he has loads of promise, but geez.

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14 May 2014 20:01:06
TjRed.

He looked sharp and brilliant.
BTW, Did you Say above, Lucas work over the years were brilliant?. 6 years. and 40+ good games?. Brazilian Messi

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You also said with Soldado and the rest of the doodoo Spurs signed that they would dominate the league this year. Get my point yet? Bit melodramatic. Lucas has had well over 40+ good games.

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Got to agree with HF.
Brad Smith and Ibe both stood out and can't be far from the first XI.
It's ironic, we're supposedly after a LB and a wide forward and have got excellent kids nearly ready in both positions!
What the hell.

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He's young I know but his touch is a poor. Nothing that cannot be improved. Hope he makes it!

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Smiths cameo at Chelsea merely revealed he is a long way off first team quality. Rodgers rates Ibe so I trust him to play him when he's ready.

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Smith came on during an (on the day) uninspiring team performance on the left wing against the team with the best defensive record in the league for 30 mins. We cannot be too critical of him.

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Brad Smith has been playing exactly like that for pretty much the entire season at U-21's. It's just that you have only seen him today Harry. I see you have taken another dig at Lucas. Are you not embarrassed to be proven wrong over and over again. How is Lamela, Soldado, Paulinho, Lennon, Townsend and however else was going to win Spurs the league, doing?

You cannot judge the young man when he was asked to play out of position against the best defense in the league away.

What I love about Smith is that he runs himself to the ground. You will see him shattered during games, but he still gives it his all. I still think he will need a loan, perhaps in the Championship, for a year.

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I agree with Home Fan on this one. Smith looked very good yesterday.
I did not realize how quick the lad is.

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15 May 2014 10:23:00
The Real AG

Are you real?. please read my OP, I am the first one here to congragulate Brad Smith, You always take my post to a different level.
How effectivley, I need to write, how much I like a player?

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14 May 2014 17:31:00
Hi Eds,

What is Luis Alberto's situation at the club? I might seem naive but it really does seem like Rodgers genuinely does not like him as he barely ever gets a chance, not even from the bench. He isn't even on the bench for the friendly vs Shamrock Rovers- and I'm not aware of him being injured or anything.

Have a nice day

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{Ed001's Note - isn't he now with Spanish U21s or something?}

I heard Luis Alberto is in Sevilla preparing for his wedding!?

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14 May 2014 17:21:00
I think that with Lallana you know exactly what you're going to get. Lallana is excellent on the ball, great creativity and able to deal with the physicality of the PL. He should be able to slot right into our team with his intelligence. he can play on the wing or through the middle and would be an outstanding partner to hendo. at 26 we'll be getting his prime 3-4 years here at LFC. could be instrumental in breaking down those park the bus teams. paying 20-30 for a player is always scary but I think everyone should just forget about the finances and let the club sort that out.

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14 May 2014 16:08:43
Hi Eds

Any truth in these rumours that Pique is interested in a move to Liverpool?

Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - Twitter is this?}

14 May 2014 16:02:01
What's the team for Dublin

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Me you and a couple boys down in the pub oh wait thaught it was the shamrock rovers page

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14 May 2014 16:00:15
Any first teamers in the game tonight?

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Borini is back with the Reds following a successful spell at Sunderland, during which he fired 10 goals in 40 appearances.

Meanwhile, Ibe spent the latter part of 2013-14 on loan at Birmingham City, where he helped them retain their Championship status, making 11 appearances and netting one goal.

Senior stars Daniel Agger, Joe Allen, Philippe Coutinho, Lucas Leiva and Martin Skrtel have also made the trip for the game.

You can watch Liverpool's post-season friendly against Shamrock at the Aviva Stadium live on LFCTV GO from 5pm BST. Click here for more information.

Liverpool squad in full: Agger, Allen, Aspas, Borini, Brannagan, Coady, Coutinho, Dunn, Ibe, Jones, Kelly, Lussey, McLaughlin, Paez, Peterson, Lucas, Randall, Skrtel, Smith, Trickett Smith, Teixeira, Ward, Williams.



From the Liverpool website

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Plenty. Aspas, Borini, Agger, Skrtel, Kelly, Lucas, Coutinho, Allen, Brad Jones are the senior players who have traveled.

Alberto is missing I think.

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14 May 2014 15:54:06
Jesus just went on the lfc store & for the first time saw 'signed match worn shirts' thinking oooh I've got a cheeky ton to spend & they're a grand! For a sweaty shirt in a box with a scribble on! 30m for lallana all of a sudden seems cheap! For a grand I'd want the signed shirt, the video of their misses & the player to cut my lawn (not a euphemism). Disgraceful!

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14 May 2014 15:34:45
Just wondering what all of you think about the following players.

I think we should go for.

Joleon Lescott.
Micah Richards.
Jerome-Boateng.
Ashley Cole.
Mohamed Diame.
Yann M'Vila.
Cristian Tello.
Mario Mandzukic.

Liverpool will need a bigger squad to compete in the champions league, and to ensure we finish in the top 4 again.

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You want a whole new back four, 2 of whom are over 30, 3 of whom have hardly played this season and a striker no where near good enough? good call.

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14 May 2014 15:50:22
So we should sign 7 absolutely awful players and 2 out of our reach. People should seriously stop posting their teams from football manger, None of the players mentioned I want to see close to a Liverpool Jersey. This is real life. I don't know why I ever care, the club doesn't care for 1 second who the fans want and thank GOD for that!

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Lescott and Cole would demand huge signing on fees due to free transfers, but if we could get Cole on low wages would definitely take it.

Diame. Not good enough

Mvila has attitude problems and from what I've heard is very inconsistant.

Tello or Boateng would be great signing IMO, ready made for our style of play due to their current clubs and wouldn't be the most expenside.

Mandzukic. Where would he play?

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Apart from Tello, nobody else is of interest now.

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Its just a post of my opinion. I do think we need to get about 5 to 7 players for next season. we need a LB, CB, DM, ST. for sure.

who in your opinion should we go for king kenny and kotomoto?

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14 May 2014 16:32:31
whoever the club and BR decides to bring in. we need 4-5 new players. But most definitely not a ST.

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And thankfully, The real AG, none of them but Tello should be of interest! If these players were signed I would lose hope in the transfer committee.

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Agree with AG only player from that list that I'd be interested in us signing would be Tello.

To be fair I've only seen HOM on a number of limited occasions as well, but I know Rodgers rates him and has tracked him for two years, so trust his judgement on him.

For me :

A. Moreno.
M. Montoya.
Those two would be brilliant full backs and are still very young.

For centre half S. De Vrij would be a brilliant replacement for both Agger and Skrtle. Plus we have Ilori returning next season also.

This would give us a defence of :

A. Moreno.
M. Sahko.
T. Ilori.
K. Toure
S. De Vrij
M. Kelly.
M. Montoya

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14 May 2014 15:00:54
This is just a rumour but Eds, any truth to the word on the steet that nobody knows anything and we are desperate for new season to start so we ask unanswerable questions to fill our empty lives?

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14 May 2014 14:36:47
Hi Eds just a quick question. Alberto not in the squad for the game in Dublin? Any reason for this?
Thanks
Jack

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

Albeit this being on Twitter, someone said he was in Seville for the preparation of his wedding. Not saying its true or not

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14 May 2014 15:55:39
"don't drink and drive, smoke and fly"

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14 May 2014 13:52:32
just my thoughts on a few recent transfers rumours:
adam lallana - I would love to see this happen but in my opinion I just can't see us paying 25 million for him.

benatia - I think this is idealy what we need a commanding cb at the side of either agger/sakho/skrtle, sell one of them, have ilori wisdom as back up sorted. I don't think it will happen as their are too many big teams with more money interested.

william carvalho - never heard of him until the rumour that man united had agreed a 37 million pound deal, rumours are that since moyes was sacked their interest has been dropped but 30 million still seems a lot of money for an unproven 22 year old.

javier mascherano - ino he is available and rumours are that he's available for 9-12 million pound, personaly I think if his wages aren't too high that this would be a great move for the club, ino people say remember what he did when he left, to be fair he had ambition and wanted the barcelona move, I think he would an improvement on lucas.

alex song - I've seen rumours he's available for 10 million euros i'm assuming that around 8 million pound, and if this is true then just sign him, from his arsenal days he looked a great played good tackler and also a very good passer. gerrard WILL get injured eventual next year with all the games we have and alex song would fantastic.

konoplyanka - I really wished we had signed him in january, he tracks back from what I've seen of him for ukraine, he made kyle walker look stupid and scores goals, aslong as the figure is around 12 million with a few add ons then he would be a good buy.

micah richards - I think he would be a good addition to defence for 5 million pound no more, he can play rb/cb but tbh I think I would rather use wisdom as back up if johnson stays and save the money he's been fantastic for derby.

will hughes - I think he's one of the english talents to watch along with barkley, he is a quality player again just the price 7 million would be good business as even if he flopped in 3 years time there wouldn't be much of a decline in a sell on price.

suarez to madrid 60 mil plus benzema - I think suarez wants to stay personaly from what he's said, but if he does leave I would rather him join madrid than chelsea or city, but I wouldn't want benzema from his time at madrid he didn't work well with higuain, I would rather take di maria or carvahal and varane for defence.

coutinho to chelsea - just no

im interested in what loans we have to bring back with, ilori, wisdom, SUSO, borini I would bring them into the squad and sell caotes and assaidi and reina.

with the 60 million if we brought in lallana 20 mil, song/masch 8-10 mil, benatia 22 mil, richards 5 mil. that's 55 million, with coates assaidi reina agger/skrtle johnson lucas aspas and enrique sold also to invest in a second gk lb and kono and a striker I would be happy for next season, 2 good keepers, solid defence, midfield with world class players competing for positions, attacking forwards in coutinho lallana kono and suso, and sas and borini and a replacement for useless aspas!

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14 May 2014 14:04:15
That's not me. but I liked the post.

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Why couldn't you see us paying £25m for Lallana? He's had a great season, team of the year, England debut followed by world cup place, looked one of the best players in the league all season proving his consistency. I'd much rather Lallana signed than a player who might be £5m less but from another league if Lallana is a better player!if the club think he's worth it then why worry about it?!

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14 May 2014 15:08:56
25 mill is a very high fees for any footballer, unless he had 2-3 brilliant seasons. I hope you remeber the last time we paid 20mill+. Henderson took 3 years to show some improvment, downing left the club.
Look at fellaini, he was brilliant at Everton, 29 mill.

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{Ed001's Note - Henderson cost less than 16m and didn't take 3 years to show improvement either. Fellaini was never brilliant, he was slow and lumbering, which is why he was pushed up top to be a target for the long ball.}

Harry trying to belittle another LFC player? Surprise surprise.

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"25 million is very high fees for any player".

You'd better get used to 25 million fees. Times have changed. Big TV money coming into the game.

And Saints have every right to ask 25 million. This is an England international, shortlisted for PFA player of the year, under long term contract with them.

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I really like lallana, but 25 mil is way too much, but I think getting him could be a great buy, if we can haggle the price down or send a player the other way.

The idea of song in our midfield makes me purr, lovely passer and physicality about him, think he'd be an excellent addition, add to the fact that with him being down and out at a big club rodgers could look to release his ability.

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14 May 2014 13:13:58
Edd001, what do you think of coutinho as a player? he's still only 21 and imo haa all the ability but blows hot and cold'

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{Ed001's Note - he is just inconsistent, all younger players are.}

14 May 2014 13:08:18
Thought I'd pop in for a quick read whislt I'm on lunch.

I'm afraid I need to break my self imposed posting ban and put the degree to one side. Fans tearing into Lucas are surely having a laugh?

Lucas has far better stats than Masch this season. He makes more passes per 90 minutes, more tackles per 90 minutes and positionally he just edges it (Masherano is not bad positionally at all anymore, contrary to what he was like before his move in 2010). The problem with Lucas is he lacks pace and mobility, unlike Mascherano who is like a terrier the way he flies about getting stuck in. His tendancy to fly into tackles can be his undoing though. Due to Lucas having no pace or mobility though, he cannot play in the same team as Gerrard. Every time he does we look static and weak in the middle. Lucas if he stays needs to accept he is purely going to be cover, because it's suicide starting them alongside eachother.

Mascherano on the other hand could cover for Gerrard and slot in alongside him when necessary. He also has the ability to play as centre back.

Lucas as a pure defensive midfielder is easily as good, if not slightly better than Mascherano. However Javier is a better squad player due to his versatility, of which Lucas has none. He looks lost when he is pushed into a more advanced postion. That does not mean he is a bad player though, so please stop judging him based on the 3 games he played against Norwich, Chelsea and Palace. He was not in his preferred position!

Would I trade Lucas for Mascherano? that's a tough one. In terms of a squad, Mashcerano is the better option with his ability to play in multiple positions and formations. However Lucas is a much nicer guy, and when played in position he probably edges it.

I also disagree with people having a pop at Masch for the way he left though. He got an offer from Barca, and we were in decline with Torres/Reina mere shadows of the players they once were, Gerrard/Agger injured all the time, Carragher looking to be past it (although he later proved that wrong), Alonso/Arbeloa jumping ship, Rafa getting replaced with the worst manager in the clubs History and the team finishing 7th in the league. Not to mention the administration looming over head and the cowboys in the hotseat. I don't blame him one bit for wanting out. He owed us nothing.

If the rumours are true and he wants to come back, personally I'd take him. Our midfield lacks a bit of steel and Masch is like a better Medel. However I'd take him to replace Skrtel as our right centre back and cover in midfield when Lucas and Gerrard inevitably slip back into their injuries, with Ilori then taking Maschs place alongside Sakho. Mascherano rarely makes mistakes, shows great determination/passion and has arguably been Barcelona's best centre back the last couple of years. I don't buy this "he's only 5ft8". You don't need to be tall to win headers, you need to be agressive and fearless. Besides, with Masch in the backline instead of Skrtel we'd be holding a line about 30-40 yards higher up the pitch where heading ability is virtually unnecessary anyway.

Now stop slagging people of without justification please because I'm still 7000 words short of a dissertation!

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{Ed001's Note - what do you mean with defending the way he left? Disgraceful, as he could have got the move without being such a prick about it. Anyone defending him is a disgrace. I have no problem with players leaving but Mash did it the worst way possible and anyone having a go at him should be agreed with. There was absolutely no reason for him to strike, he was paid his wages in full and had a contract that he could have easily negotiated a way out of without being a complete and utter knob about it.}

14 May 2014 13:42:37
YNWAdam

Mate No one has torn Lucas apart. But You honestly believe he would be enough for us next seaosn.
Lucas peak seaons came when we were out of CL, I have hardly seen him play brilliant in Europe.
he is slow and is very inconsisntent.
I would be happy to bring Barry, If he is available.

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I just don't think there's any room for sentiment or grudges in football. He left badly, yes. I'm not denying that. But he had his reasons and I don't see why that's a good enough reason not to sign a world class player if his wages and transfer fee is reasonable.

You wouldn't sign a player based purely on him being a nice guy. So why refuse a player based purely on a mistake made 4 years ago. We had our moan at the time. He later dedicated a win over United in the CL final to Liverpool Fans, and if he truly wants to come back to us, it shows he has regrets. Therefore I see no reason for us to refuse a top top player.

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14 May 2014 14:07:21
And the Irony, Everyone forgets Suarez (Last seaosn debacle). If he is ready to take a pay cut and join us, that's a brilliant adition.
Alex song is another option, Or even Gareth Barry.
But we need a hard tackler in the middle or else we won't pass the group stages of CL with the likes of Dortumand, Real or Juve etc.

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I completely agree Harry. If we are going to refuse Mascherano for his behaviour, we might as well be consistent and force Suarez out as well.

Nobody holds a grudge against Suarez, so I don't see the problem with Masch. At the time I remember being really annoyed about it. He apparently refused to play at the 11th hour and threw our whole gameplan out the Window, contributing to a 3-0 loss.

Past is past though. If Suarez hadn't bitten Ivanovic to try and Engineer a move, he wouldn't have missed the Swansea and Southampton games we dropped 4 points in. Just think, if we'd won them games we'd have won the league.

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14 May 2014 15:12:10
Mascherano is still a quality player and miles ahead of Lucas. I have no problem with Lucas, Nor I had with dowinign who loved this club more than some fans, But this sentiments won't take us anywhere.
We need a good run in the CL and need to maintain CL for the next 4 seasons.
If our strikers fails to score goals for fun (By goals Liverpool need atleast 4 goals every game to win)
Then we are basically screwed, considering our Midfield and back 4 reamins pretty poor at times.

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{Ed001's Note - thanks Harry, if you think Mash is miles ahead of Lucas, well that pretty much proves he is nowhere near as good.....}

How is Suarez an irony? You rate Barry better than Lucas Harry. That tells me everything.

Also, confidence is a huge thing. Barry has had this transformation after being trusted. A year back, you wold never have said Barry over Lucas.

What I don't understand is this sudden propensity towards wholesale changes. We need to stop spending money unnecessarily and only when there is a definite need. As the editors tell on a daily basis, we need to become self sufficient and by spending a huge amount on a player we don't need is not the way forward.

Also, this discussion is rather pointless as someone pointed out, Mascherano earns a gigantic sum, something we will never ever match. He will need to accept a wage offer something like 120% below his current tone. You think he will be happy with that and being a squad player?

It amazes me that one moment you can criticize the club for buying the likes of Aspas and Alberto and then encourage the signing of Mascherano. That is aimed at you Harry.

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I wouldn't support Mascherano if he ever came back to our club. He's a disgrace to his profession which contains quite a few disgraceful characters.
I hope he goes to Russia or somewhere and disappears off the radar of top class club football. He's a waster, like Winston Bogarde.

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14 May 2014 17:05:38
The Real AG

An year back you would have never thought of Lallana to Liverpool.

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What does that have to do with anything? Do you even bother to read what people write?

And, a year back, you were still in your fantasy world, criticizing LFC players.

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14 May 2014 12:59:52
If Southampton demands 30 mil for Lallana, Then we should try and get Firmino and Kono/shakiri instead. We would both at 30 mill

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Agree. Persoanlly, I think Firmino is a better player than Lallana.

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14 May 2014 12:47:03
Hi,
we are getting to a busy time and I appreciate how busy the eds are, but I have a reuest if you have the time?

Basically I have enjoyed ED1 breakdowns of the matches throughout the season. Is there any chance you could do a similar thing with the LFC squad inc. the Youth likely to step up? Maybe with ED2 making a short comment on each player that the ED is familiar with? I think it woould be handy to have and would spark a good discussion (and hopefully not ED abuse). Anyway if your all to busy then no worries

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{Ed001's Note - I will add it to my to do list and try and get it done ASAP for you mate.}

Cheers ed, much appreciated going in to crazy season!

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Should be a good read Ed001, always enjoy your take on things!

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I look forward to reading that; good request and good of you to agree to it Ed.

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14 May 2014 12:20:33
any news on what's happening with our loanees for next season?

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{Ed002's Note - Too early to say.}

What have you made of their performances?

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Wisdom, Suso, Ibe, Borini all done enough to be in the First team squad IMO. Though I wouldn't be surprised to see Suso on loan again and Wisdom sold.

Assaidi, Coady, Reina have done OK, but all will be sold IMO.

Adorjan, Ngoo, Roddan has struggled and will be sold.

Ilori will be out on loan again next season.

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14 May 2014 11:35:35
Not so much Liverpool related but I thought I would ask dear Ed02.



Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - Try a more appropriate page.}

14 May 2014 11:35:11
Morning all.

Ed02. Please can you enlighten us with your immense knowledge on transfer fee's please.

If a team bids £25 million for a player and the bid is accepted what is roughly the final figure the club ends up paying?

By that I am asking for roughly what is needed extra for other expenses eg. Agents fee's, taxes, legal expenses, insurance, signing on fee's etc. or will they be different dependant on each individual circumstance?

If they are, is there a ROUGH % that can be added to give us some idea of the TRUE figure that the out going cost to the club would be?

Cheers in advance.

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{Ed002's Note - I really don't want to go there because it causes so much confusion. I have explained before about the VAT and other charges.}

14 May 2014 11:16:56
my take on lfc loanees -

suso - suso has had a good season on loan at almeria . he is next gen spanis starlet and has shown his quality at the la liga outfit Almeria. not only they look safe from dropping out but also have played good football in Spain this season. several journos in Spain have liked the way almeria and esp celta vigo have played this season. coming to suso he has had a good season contributing 3 goals and 9 assists( 3 from dead ball situations, in all competitions) in 33 appearances . he recently got a red card trying to track back a lost cause of a ball. based on stats also suso creates a goal scoring opportunity every 70 minutes. In every way suso has shone in Almeria and deserves his place at LFC, and I would have him back ( may be over lallana. ok just maybe). he is fiesty customer too earning 9 yellow cards! I think suso is ready to be in Liverpool colors. and btw he is only 20

fabio borini- the second Liverpool player on loan, who should be at Liverpool. 10 goals in 40 odd appearances for sunderland another club who have avoided relegation, and borini plays a big part in that. he scored a cracker in tynewear dery . he deserves to be the third striker at Liverpool if suarez stays. he can definitely be effective from the bench, and can start in games where teams are going to defend deep aka chelsea!. again at only 23 yo, he should be back at LFC without a doubt. he definitely adds to the bench.

ossama assiadi - 19 apperances mostly off the bench for stoke this season scoring 4 goals. including a winner against chelsea, interestingly both lfc players at loan to epl clubs scored against chelsea! does he offer much to lfc, well I cannot say he adds a lot, and probably should be moved on . one could argue he adds pace trickery off the bench, but for word he can't either cross or pass the ball right, and often looses possession, atleast that's what I think of it. plus for him too he won't get much gametime at lfc, given the way sterling has taken his opportunities.
best for both parties to move on . I think he should be sold off to stoke city. but I don't want charlie adam and oussama assaidi to score against us next season! :P so no sell him outside EPL;

andre wisdom - another player who got ample game time at championship ( and almost primier league) derby, becuz of there injury hit defence, he mostly started every game as right back . which I believe isn't really the right position for him given his height and strength. well for word derby definitely were the Liverpool of championship this season. they scored the most goals and conceded a hearty 52 goals too. as a fullback he cudnt assist any goal but was great going forward providing and option to the attacking derby midfield, however I could recall 2 instances watching derby games, which I didn't watch a lot ( I mostly watched qpr and liecester games), when we could say wisdom was the main defensive culprit to the goal. however if we talk of lfc, fullbacks are the positions we are looking for, and wisdom is a option, with confidence ad training he could be moved in to lfc squad, but he isn't ready as of now.

jack robinson - jack was a player I thought would be future lfc lb. but he has had a horrendous second half to the season on loan at blackpool, and that could be said for blackpool, they have had a disastrous second half in the championship, they could only win 2 matches after 30 november and it was a wretched run, who only just avoided relegation thanks to their superb form in the first half of the season, its is difficult to judge a players true potential in such a scenario, but jack didn't do himself any favours getting sent off 3 times in the campaign . however to his credit he has five assistes to show for . it has not been a great loan move for him, and I think he would be sold . I agree with it too.

jordan Ibe -ibe is another wonderful prospect for Liverpool, who played for birmingham, another team who just avoided relegation and in the 96th minute!
well jordan ibe was the one involved in that . it was his run and ball that paul cadis put in. ibe is one for the future and another loan move preferably to a primier league club should suit him best


conor coady- conor coady was on loan to shefield united of league 1 where he managed a decent season after having some difficulties in establishing himself in the first team which he only managed by christmas, however he enjoyed a successful spell at the blades scoring 5 times. conor's is confusing case . he has been with Liverpool as a successor to gerrard and I think that is not fair to the lad, he has always been seen as the future Liverpool captain, and again that is not fair . I think conor deserves a run in lfc midfield, but I don't think he is at premier league level, he has to prove himself. he should be given a cup run at LFC . and some odd subsitutions in matches that are won at half time.

tiago illori - on loan to granada in latter half illori appeared in 8 matches . I watched one game in which he played against almeria last week . I cannot comment on it because almeria won, but granada enjoyed majority of possesion and played from the back, from what I can tell illori is a ball playing centre back and he is very good at it, but was aerially weak in that game. however he can pass a long ball. there was one spectacular gerrardisque ball to riki in that game. I think illori will be our starting cb next season, as I think both skrtel and agger will move this season.

kristian adorjan- on loan to eredivise side groningen and has played 19 games for them this season started in 11 or 12 odd games . scoring 3 assisting 1. he mostly plays on the right wing . and from watever I have seen is not a player for Liverpool. the hungarian might not be what Liverpool require in the team or at their bench

micheal ngoo - the 6'6 strong striker played at league 1 side walsall and yeovil and didn't enjoy success at either club. the striker is a physical threat for any defence but hasn't really reached a level . his best years reamin ahead of him and a physical team like westham would suit him. I don't think he would fall in mr rodgers style of play

pepe reina - be it banter or be it discussion, pepe reina is a much better keeper than simon mignolet. any LFC fan would be right to say simon Mignolet is not a keeper that gives confidence to his defence. mignolet is no where near reina in terms of distribution and his command in the area. however mignolet is at par with reina in shot stopping . Reina is an excellent keeper. but he is not going to be a LFC player next season, I hope mignolet buckles up trains like madmen and improves his distribution and general goal keeping play. I don't think rodgers also has complete trust in his keeper. I hope mignolet starts for belgium ( which doesn't look like it, they have courtouis) which would be a big boost for the LFC keeper. and btw pepe reina has had good season at napoli conceding 29 goals in 30 games with 10 clean sheets.



cheers

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Not a bad assessment of the loanee's, though I would disagree with Conor Coady, I've seen him play a few times now and personally I his game is based too much on work ethic and energy rather than actual ability. very similiar to Jay Spearing and Danny Guthrie. Your right in that the "next big thing" hype is unfair but he just doesn't seem a good enough player for Liverpool.
Perhaps League 1 /Championship is his level.

You also failed to mention (though not a Liverpool player anymore) Adam Morgan. can't begin to explain how disappointed I was that he didn't make the grade, thought he had bags of potential only a year ago!

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14 May 2014 09:51:30
ED 1 : Do you expect any of the young kids to make any kind of impact on the first team next year?

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{Ed001's Note - yes, I expect Teixeira to get more time and Rossiter to get a few chances, at the very least. Hard to say, as it depends on who gets decent loans set up for them.}

Dont u think Texeira would benefit going out on loan more than making sporadic appearances at LFC? If a team playing a similar style of football to us want him on loan, I would be more than happy to see Texeira take up the offer and see what he can do over the course of a full season.

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{Ed001's Note - I am not sure he would benefit, he was criminally wasted by Brentford, I just don't see any clubs out there that would be a good fit for him.}

I hope Swansea show an interest in him. They play good football and BR would be able to keep a closer watch on the lad's progress.

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I'd like to see the young players like texeira stay. they can play in brendans system in the domestic cups. The first team can just play the CL and PL then next year (or later this year) they can compete for PL places

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Do you not think he would benefit from being loaned to a weaker European league/team? perhaps the dutch league where the style of play would be better suited for him? or even a low ranking spanish or italian team?

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Coutinho, Alberto, Suso, Teixeira and possibly Lallana.

We will need to make a decision on a number of these players. Personally I can only see 2 of them staying; and maybe 1 or 2 sold and 1 on loan.

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14 May 2014 10:35:53
A quick question if people would like to give input.

We've been linked in the express to Remy. Given the more games we will be playing next year, how much Suarez and Sturridge tailed off at the end of the campaign and playing elite level clubs in europe.

Would you rather we kept Borini as a reserve striker or tried to offload him and purchase Loic Remy?

I would personally take Remy, he's much more clinical has done well at Newcastle and has a fair bit of champions league experience.

It's not that I don't like Borini either, I do rate him. I just don't think he's a striker we need at this time. I'd love Liverpool to have a strikforce headache like UTD in 1999

Give your thoughts any way guys

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Chelsea and Arsenal fell short this season with there lack of fire power and we are lucky to have the leagues best 2 strikers, but if we had to rest Suarez and Sturridge in preparation for a champions league game, would Borini or Aspas be good enough to step in and make a big difference?

I'm not too sure to be honest. I do agree that we need to bring in a decent third striker and Remy is a good shout.

I would also like to add that Borini has done a decent job at Sunderland, and I appreciate that 7 goals is not a bad return for a struggling side, but look at players like Lukaku for instance who can go to any team and get 15+ goals per season.

Red Rum

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Borini over Remy all day.
Remy is in no way an upgrade on Borini, so why waste money on him when we have already paid 11 million for Borini who has just come back after a successful loan spell at Sunderland?
Besides Remy comes with a lot of baggage (remember the rape case) which the club can do without especially after what has happened to its image over the last couple of seasons.

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I woul take Conner Wickham in swap deal with Borini.

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Indian.
The case was dropped, so for me there's no baggage personally. I completely forgot about Aspas when I made this post.I guess he could make way instead, but keep the thought coming on the Borini side too.

Cheers reds

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Remy will join Arsenal.

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Fabio Borini has done evrything BR could have asked of him and deserves a chance next season.

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Don't forget Rodgers likes Borini Aspas will probably leave and rather than two strikers is some games you can play with one

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14 May 2014 10:11:24
Eds and reds,
Liverpool will be in pot 3 for the champions league, so the likelihood is that we will get a group of death.
My question is who are the teams in pot one and pot two?

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14 May 2014 10:43:55
All the good ones.and not utd ha ha ha.

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14 May 2014 10:00:42
I would be made up if we convinced Everton to sell and Barkley to join us. What a replacement for Gerrard!

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14 May 2014 10:21:41
Ooh, this will never happen, NEVER. I think some of our fans have no clue whatsoever what the word "bitters" mean. This is as likely to happen as Messi Joining Westbrom! That's how likely that is! End of

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I heard the same thing before Houllier convinced Barmby to move over.

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14 May 2014 10:45:14
Rossiter is going to be that man.

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We have Rossiter and Suso to replace Gerrard. Also Barkley seems a bit overrated to me. And the bitters would never sell to us.

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Behave. You've got no chance of signing Ross this transfer window or any in the future. Roberto is going to build a team around him and he is staying to play for the team he supported as a kid and who has nurtured his talent.

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Bit like Gerrard and Carra then Davey. anything around and over 30M and they're sure to consider it. Whether the player himself would come or we would spend that much on one player is another thing. Besides, you'd probably sell to utd for that sort of money so this notion of building your team around him is flawed. Let's hope the lads work their magic on him during the World Cup. This kid would benefit from the Champions League experience he'd get at ours.

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Just like Wayne Rooney did, Daveyboy

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14 May 2014 13:02:27
Yeah davey once a blue always a blue just like shrek.

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14 May 2014 13:03:37
Dave

Roberto is doing what?, Build a team?, Around whom?. If city gets penalised by UEFA and trimm their squad. 35 mill and he is off to City.
Behave yourself. You cannot build a team with 5 loanees every season. Every player wants CL or Insane wages, your club is getting nowhere near to it, Barkley isn't any execption.

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Just like yee did with Rooney? Oh wait.

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Barkley will be sold if a good bid is made. Roberto will leave if a better team offers him the role. He has way too much ambition to stay in Everton.

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Lads don't Everton Football Club by your own poor standards. This season there is no need to sell any players. In like yourselves we're not haemorrhaging a million pounds a week. Enjoy your one season in the Champions League (and I do hope you draw the 'pot of death') and if anyone is changing clubs this summer, it will be your diving, cheating, cannibal of a striker on his way to Real Madrid for his next pot of gold.
And by the way those 3 points dropped at home to Man City were worth it just to see your faces last weekend. Better luck next season!

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Oh dear, what a sorry excuse for a fan you are, happy that you lost to City?pathetic. Enjoy Europa league next season, really helps for that Champions League push. In the meantime we'll stick that 99M we earned this season towards that million a week, you think it'll be enough?
We'll see what happens with the Champions League, group of death or not, least we'll be ready.
As for our player and pots of gold, don't worry Davey, when utd come calling for yours make sure your bent right over so you can give it to them how they like it.
Always one ain't there.

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{Ed002's Note - You might do better to ignore the money issue.}

Ed, will this amount not help to ease that loss so to speak? I appreciate if you'd rather not get into this, I'm just curious now that you've said that. p.s. Congratulations on a great job this season.

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{Ed002's Note - Of course it helps but you need to understand the level of debt etc..}

You don't/can't have to sell any players because you don't own half of them. You don't own them because you can't afford to buy them. Maybe you ca afford to buy Barry this summer, just maybe.

LFC are moving towards self sufficiency and have responsible owners and a structure in place that is all working towards becoming a more successful club and business. We have made good progress and you will see the debt being decreased next year and then again the year after.

I look forward to the CL, which I and the rest of the LFC fans will thoroughly enjoy while your club will be busy trying to convince Martinez and your star players to stay; unsuccessfully because over the past few years you had the chance to overtake LFC and you failed to do so. Your team doesn't have any ambition and your players and manager will leave sooner than later. And when that happens I will come over to wish good day.

As for the rest of the drivel, it just says what kind of a "fan" you are, wishing your own team failure. Are you similar person in life?

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I'll read up on previous posts, thanks

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14 May 2014 09:27:15
Obviously a great season and great news we're trying to get Lallana but in your view (or what you've heard) will we be utilising the services of the returned LLori, Suso and Borrini and what will be happening with Aspas and Alberto?
I'd love to see all 5 play a good role for us but i'd not be disapointed if the latter 2 were sent out on loan and came back better.

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14 May 2014 09:40:01
Can't see Aspas going on loan, he's is 27. But all the loan players will come back to be assessed. Nothing is written in stone.

F.eks the club wants to move C. Coady on for a couple of Millions, but what if he has improved so much during preseason training that club decides to keep him because BR was impressed.

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We will be overloaded with midfielders and forwards if we keep them all. Personally, I can see Ilori and Suso being loaned out for another year. Borini staying and Alberto and Aspas being sold.

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14 May 2014 10:14:32
Aspas would have been off in Jan. Alberto, I like him But with Suso coming in and Lallana also joining, can't see him hanging.
Thats 16 mill wasted in the water

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14 May 2014 10:24:20
Doubt Alberto will be sold, he will be loaned out. Suso will most probably not go out on loan either. The 3 I see staying are Wisdom, Suso, Borini and the rest will go on loan or get sold.

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Why do people want Aspas to be loaned out? The guy's 27 for heaven's sake. He clearly has not made an impression at the club and will almost certainly be moving on. Alberto on the other hand will probably go on loan, though I seriously doubt he will hack it at LFC with the likes of Coutinho, Suso, Texeira and Rossiter standing in his way.

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14 May 2014 08:41:34
Eds who all are targeted by us?

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{Ed002's Note - Aneesh you need to read the posts.}

It will take no longer than 10 minutes. Please take the time to read the posts.

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14 May 2014 08:25:38
Read some rumours Eds, is there real interest in Lasogga?
Thanks!

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{Ed002's Note - See previous answers.}

Sorry Ed2, what previous answers? Nothing came up when I searched for him.

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{Ed002's Note - That means it has been deleted because of the abuse.}

O right, jaysus. Ok never mind, thanks!

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Couldn't find a previous post about Lassoga.

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14 May 2014 08:20:25
We have two set of fans here on Mascherano return.
Mascherano is 29 year old and last year of his contract, If he rejects a move to Napoli, I think we need to look him.
He is a top player, Great tackler, Good positional sense and he has plenty of energy, Was one of our stand out performers back in 2008-09 and looks good in fitness even now.
Now what happened between him and the club, is beyond our knowledge and all we know is things put up on media and paper.
He would cost us below 10 mill for sure, And We need a DM TBH, Gerrard simply cannot play 45 games a seaosn and Lucas looked more like the old Lucas, Very poor.

Dont shoot me. Get with some sensible replies.

Kool Work Eds.

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14 May 2014 08:57:50
Wherever I read Mascherano is cheap I seriously have to almost cry of people's ignorance! He is on £ 175000 a week and has one of the highest signing on fees and agent fees. Something like £ 8 million! Simple math will show that is 16, 5 million in wages and fees alone. In 1 year! On what planet is that cheap? That's around 25% more than Luis Suarez. How?Why?When? Cheap? I don't think so. Please stop talking out your backside because Masc. if given a 3 year deal would cost around £ 40 million for those 3 years. NOT worth it whatsoever. Forget him!

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Whether he rejects a move to Napoli or not has nothing to do with LFC. LFC have no interest in Mascherano despite the player may wanting to come back.

If LFC are buy a 29 year old Defensive Midfielder, they will probably need to move on a similar player. Lucas Leiva is the the only option and then you need to see if Mascherano would be a viable replacement for Lucas. You will need to take into account that Lucas will be a squad player next season, and if Mascherano were to come in, he will be a squad player too.

If that is the case, then how much would you pay for a squad player? Also, what would you pay the player? Mascherano is on a massive wage at FCB and will he be happy 1) Being a squad payer. 2) Being paid a lot lot less?

Also, what makes you think Lucas will fetch £10 million? This is just fantasy and cannot be replied in a sensible manner.

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Throwing money down the drain on ageing, high-earning, no resale value players landed us in the doo doo and made us uncompetitive. Since we've changed and employed a coach who makes young players better we have shot up the league. We have a plan let's stick to it.

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14 May 2014 10:01:17
Its a simple math, We won't be paying anywhere near 175k to anyone, let alone mascherano.
If he is moving out of barca, he would be on a pay cut. Apart from Napoli, None have shown interest in Masch, and Napoli won't pay 175k to Masch.
We need a DM. Signing on fees applies to players, who are bing touted by club. Masch want a return, and we won't be paying any signing on fees.

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{Ed001's Note - not in the slightest bit true. Free agents get bigger signing on fees than those contracted to clubs. Let the weasel rot like he deserves for going on strike. The man is deserving of nothing but contempt for his actions while with us.}

14 May 2014 10:02:39
Mascherano can be a starter and also add decent cover. We can trust on Masch abilities, But can't trust Lucas.

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The Mascherano deal isn't for me. Gerrard plays DM and has Lucas as cover. I can't see the logic in paying big wages/signing on fee for a player approaching 30 (particularly since he left the club under such distasteful circumstances).
Surely there are better, younger, cheaper options with more potential out there.

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I have to go with Home_Fan on this one, I agree Masch won't be cheap, but the quality is there, it's an improvement on Lucas, it's an improvement defensively and IMO at the end of the day everybody deserves a second chance.
Masch has continually denied he went on strike, who knows what really happened. All we know is our club was in a right state at the time and Barca came calling for him.
We have to remember that when we were ranked the No:1 team in Europe, with some saying we had the best midfield in the world, Masch was a major major part of that.
We want to challenge for the CL next year, players like Masch are few and far between. This is a top top player.
Give him grief, let him squirm a bit but he's the kind of player that will win all of our hearts back in time.

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14 May 2014 10:52:32
Henderson does what mascherano does better but good cover and we will need a bigger squad but at his age he will want to be starting and he could throw his dummy out again.

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Forget Mascherano guys. He is the club's past. don't want him back. Would rather someone like Xhaka who can play as a DM as well as a box to box midfielder. He would provide cover for both Gerrard and Hendo, and eventually take Gerrard's place in the first team when he hangs up his boots. Really disappointed we have not shown serious interest in this guy.

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For me Hendos a different player, yes he's got bags of energy but he's more affective in our attacking third. Masch can drop back into defence, this is key. For me Masch would be a starter, with Gerrard and Hendo in front.
We can make sure our concerns are dealt with in his contract.
At 29 he brings a wealth of top draw European experience, he needs no time to settle down, leadership qualities are there to see and a bulldog spirit ala Suarez. I'd be over the moon with Masch back.

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Look at all these top champions league teams clamouring to sign him like Barcelona {tumbleweed}.

There is a reason Barcelona have let his contract expire.

Even if he wasn't a self serving devious weasel who treats our fans and the shirt with utter contempt, I still don't want to sign him. He is a lot older than the player who played for us. He was too limited offensively when he did play for us and is why Barcelona played him almost exclusively as a centre back.
Move on, let him rot at Napoli he'll fit in well there.

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14 May 2014 13:17:48
I would agree with all the above, who don't want Masch return, But Pls Lucas is not the answer, If Gerrard gets Injured for 5 continous games, All here will mourn of not signing a DM.
Luacs is with us from 6 years. I don't see any major club interested in him.
He is very limited football player. Offers very less.

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You changing the topic then Harry, when others point out the flaws with Mascherano?

You have changed the topic into a slightly veiled attempt at belittling Lucas. I understand that you don't like that lad but some of the things you say is ridiculous. For example, "I don't see any major club interested in him". That is the same with Mascherano.

Prestige:

Did you just say that he offers more in the attacking third? You joking mate?

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AG, if you bothered to read what I said, I was referring to Henderson, so no, no joke there

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14 May 2014 15:04:20
I am not changing the topic, The bottom line remains, we need a DM, If masch is the ideal one, then I am ok with it. Check my post above. I have also stated in getting Barry or Song.
I have no problems with Lucas, Absolutly nothing, But he isn't the answer to our DM.

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14 May 2014 15:06:29
The Real AG.

Mate what did I say about Lucas which sounded ridiculous.
He is slow, poor in positioning, and pretty average in going forward or spraying passes forward, Gets bullied by Midfielders.
If Not, let me watch Lucas once more.

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And AG, Masch is being looked at by a number of European teams including Napoli, ManU and Juve.
I like Lucas, no disrespect to the guy, but he is limited, there's no denying that.

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{Ed001's Note - sorry, are you talking about the same Mash that has been available from Barca for a couple of years with absolutely no interest? Do people forget that he was a West Ham reserve before we signed him? Was there much interest in him then either?}

Prestige, apologies for that. Ed has answered about interest in Mascherano.

Harry, I have quoted the ridiculous part. If like Prestige says, you had bothered to read properly, you would know what I mean.

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No worries AG. I've been reading people's thoughts on Masch and come to the conclusion now that it'll probably be more hassle than not. We need a world class DM we all know that, one that's comfortable slotting into defence at times and one that can help on the attacking front as well. All in all with the money being quoted to get him, his age, previous history and generally how fans feel about this guy I think we could do better in this market.

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14 May 2014 07:49:38
If we do manage to pull of the lallana deal before the world cup do you think Rodgers will still be interested in konoplyanka?

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{Ed002's Note - I cannot answer questions about the timing of transfers.}

14 May 2014 06:09:09
Hi Ed02, did you have a chance to compose your thoughts in Greg Dyke's proposals or did I miss them being posted?

Thanks

Bryan

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14 May 2014 06:12:13
Hey ED's I see your run off your feet already! Doing a fine job on the busiest rumours site of them all!

Just wanted to pop my brow in and say the info from Ed001 and Ed02 is top stuff and much appreciated, best info online!

Here's a virtual beverage from me to the work you put in and the keyboard work ahead for you guys!

It's why I've read and posted for years and will continue to do so.

All the best.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you mate! Hope you have a great summer.}

14 May 2014 01:08:46
Here's one for the poll Ed.

If Simon Mignolet was a loan signing, would you make his move permanent?

Red Rum

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{Ed002's Note - You want the fantasy football pages. If Coutinho was a girl would you keep her at the club?}

I am sure Kirikou would be a happy man :-P

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{Ed002's Note - He only plumps her hair and has no interest in girls.}

What does a "plumbing" mean?

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{Ed002's Note - It is to do with the distribution of water and waste.}

I'd keep Coutihno's missus at the club. no bother!

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Hahah. Caught me there.

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14 May 2014 09:09:59
Marshy, I would do everything to keep Aspas's girlfriend at the club as well. She's worth the fee paid for poor Aspas.

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14 May 2014 01:04:56
Just heard on the radio Lallana deal in advanced talks and Liverpool hope to conclude it soon. Also Shaw to united likewise. Mascherano will cost 9m and he wants Liverpool.

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{Ed002's Note - They have been teasing you man.}

Why do so many fans hark back? Mascherano is not a viable target given his age and wage. Move on. Put him in the same box as Alonso & Torres.

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14 May 2014 06:39:39
100% agree. sounds like he's off to napoli with rafa

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Is Mascherano willing to cut his wages down to £60k a week?

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14 May 2014 00:54:52
Hi eds and fellow reds, how about rickie lambert, could he be available I read that he is a Liverpool fan so would love to play for us and what about snodgrass I think he is very underated and needs to play in top flight along with tim krull and ashley cole and llana that would sort things out, just as well i'm not the manager lol, but are there any players here that might come for the joy ride :)

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Lallana is the only one that should be considered from that list.

Red Rum

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Rickie Lambert is a big LFC fan. Saw him on TV the other day and he was waxing lyrical about Suarez and LFC.

Also, saw him on the Players' POTY awards video and he was up first when Suarez's name was announced, with a smile as wide as I have ever seen.

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Because he is a Liverpool fan don't mean we should go for him age abilityetc afer all I am a Liverpool fan, but the team don't need a fat bald bloke, mind you I am available n have my own top.

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14 May 2014 09:27:13
Rickie Lambert is a legend! Hehe

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Rickie Lambert fat? He has 13 goals and 10 assists this season and has been brilliant.

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13 May 2014 23:54:10
This page is crazy people saying Lallana is not wworth thus or that isn't good enough but earlier in the season he was praised in here what's changed people's mood I for one would welcome him with open arms

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The same people who haven't watched Carvalho but think he's worth a 37m punt and don't think a proven PL player at his peak is worth 25m. The same people who advocate cheeky 10m bids for dross or crocks (Rodwell one of the latest).

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Take Lallana any day. Proven at EPL level.

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13 May 2014 23:39:07
carvalho rumours true eds?

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{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

 
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