Liverpool Banter Archive August 15 2013

15 Aug 2013 16:26:48
We need to cool all the pessimism on these pages let's just all imagine we get taken over by the Qatari royal family next week and they gave you director of football position. "you have £60million to spend in these next 2 weeks" they tell you, who do you buy? I'd get lamela for £28m, sakho for £10m, and give Madrid £20m + the moaner (total worth £75m) for coentrao (£20m), Di Maria (£20m), alonso (£10m) and ozil (£25m), and strike a deal to bring David Ngog back to the club so we can all piss ourselves watching his first touch.
So our starting line up come September:
Mignolet; Johnson, sakho, agger, coentrao; gerrard, alonso; Lamela, coutinho, Di Maria/ ozil; sturridge
And a bish-bash-Bosh-kaboom! Where's the pessimism now?

Remember all this is very, very unlikely to happen, just trying to show you we can't bemoan fsg for resources they don't have! It's like slagging off Jones for not scoring any last year, but its not his job as a goalkeeper to score, in the same way fsg aren't trying to spend all this money on players who won't care about who they play for as long as they get a pay day, they're looking for hungry young players who won't cost too much but will return lots of money in the long run by securing us champions league money under their wizard BR, meaning we can live by means of our own resources like Dortmund
Ynwa

Post of the month . I'm pressing the like button toddythered!

I can accept that Jones didn't score, but to not even have one shot on goal? He obviously doesn't suit our system.

15 Aug 2013 15:04:06
the scouting of players supposed to be have done a long time ago. we are now scrapping for whatever is available . we seem to have fallen way down the order as far as player preferance is concerned . the once mighty Liverpool have fallen from grace. once again reality has hit us . FOREVER RED

Do us a favour mate and wind ya neck right in. Even arsenal and utd are struggling to get players in and they have CL football to offer. So chill out and keep the faith.

Ynwa

You are only just realising this now? It has been this way for a few years mate. No champions league football instantly reduces the number of players who would come. But would you want said players? Look what Suarez has done to the club. We are building our way forward with the best players available who are willing to join. That is enough for me.

15 Aug 2013 13:18:56
Watching this bt sport "life's a pitch" don't know who the presenter is but seems a lot to me like the Alan Titchmarsh show does sport, it's a bit embarrassing like ya dad at a disco

15 Aug 2013 12:39:38
Would anyone take Walcott and cash for Suarez? I would personally I think he would fit right in with our style of play and if you look at his stats from last season he got over 10 goals and over 10 assists from mainly playin out wide. I think him coutinho and sturridge would be unbelievable as a front 3. I would offer them Suarez for Walcott and say 20mil? Walcott cost arsenal if i'm correct around 12mil all them years ago. He has obviously improved and I would now value him as around a 25mil player. This means we are getting a combined total of around £45mil. Any chance in this happening Eds?

15 Aug 2013 13:32:57
I am not sure. But, If spurs pull of willian, lamela and errikson for Bale. Then I would personally go and meet Levy and Give a high five.
Jesus, what a team that is. Better than city and cheslea.
negrado. navas, silva aguerao. who?
That would a bad news for UTD and Arsenal

I think Eriksen's agent has stipulated again that his client won't be joining a non Champions League club. In terms of Lamela and Willian that would be two more players on fairly high end wages. They would be taking a huge punt on attaining Champions League football this year and maybe rightly so? I think location substantially helps Spurs in attracting players also, let's hope we haven't seen the end of our business as we currently do not possess a squad capable of reaching that top four. 1 or 2 quality signings then maybe.

Youd give him a high 5 after he'd pulled all them off!

Dirty Harry!!

Hmm I'm kinda wondering are you a Spurs fan Harry because you posted the same on the Arsenal page with the opening line, Liverpool fan in peace lol.

I'd rather have navas, silva and definitely aguero.

I'll give you one thing Harry, while some may say you're clueless, at least you're consistent.

The name's "Aguero" ; Ken Aguero.

They simple will not be able to pull off all 3 of them, high profile players are being linked with them as everyone knows that they will have a very healthy sum of money when Bale leaves and i'm sure the players they go after will have there prices infatuated so the selling team gets the best possible deal.

It would be the final nail in Liverpool's coffin of EVER getting in the top four.

Got to agree with you there harry if spurs bring them in with only the loss of bale there no longer a 1 man team they will have weapons all over the pitch they threw away top 4 last year can't see it happening again if and its a huge IF they could get them 3 in but can't see them getting all 3 in maybe 1 but they still look good with there recent additions interesting season ahead I think with all the signing pressure has to be on avb to deliver this year

Buying loads of boss players is sound but if they cannot gel properly or work as a team or have ego clashes then it counts for very little. United won the title last year with the weakest squad of the teams who finished top 3.

Spurs can try.

They should remember that Real tried this approach with their "Galacticos". Barca subsequently wiped the floor with them with a team built from their academy.

This is a very expensive, and not necessarily successful, approach.

15 Aug 2013 10:49:46
Who comes up with all these reports that turn out to be nothing?
According to reports (they don't say who, just reports) Liverpool have made this and that offer or eyeing up the situation or have scouts watching. TOTAL RUBBISH

I wish FSG come out and say that our days of £20M+ transfers are over. We will buy players (some very good) from Swansea, Celta vigo etc and BR will mould them into a team, how good a team we will have to see. Suarez needs convincing, probably 3/4th best player in world, he does not want to battle to get top4, he wants to challenge and I do not blame him. We can't expect him to stay because we love him! Willan? Come on, guys, let's not get ahead of ourselves. I, as much as the next fan, would love to see class signed and oppositions torn apart. but only FSG know what their budget is. I'm getting frustrated by not knowing and seeing other teams sign quality. BR is to football what Tony Blaire was to politics. Great talker, media savvy, good PR and. good at his job!
I can't judge him until the window is closed because he made statements and I can't make any comment before that time is reached. It's a long wait for a football fan (2 weeks!) and the more frustrating when there is rumours about teams making offers for our best players!1
Sorry about the long rant, living in London I have to put up with Totts, Gooners and Chelski supporters!
Come on FSG. give me something to shut them up with. YNWA

Tony Blair good at his job? Funniest thing I have heard in a long time!

I agree with you, we need to get our business done quickly or someone needs to come out and say we're not going to do anything. we don't need another situations like Dempsey from last year.

However so far this window Liverpool has not splashed any cash as they are a net positive with the latest downing sale.

We definetly need a quality attacking midfielder and a left back. atleast, and this too if suarez doesn't leave. let's hope we get someone in soon

Tony Blair WAS good at his job. ok then after him I give you Brown. and Cameron.enuf said I think!
As for our club well yes I agree with the original post 100%.BUT again same question I always ask. why take us out of the hands of the 2 cowboys and then think hhhmmm hang on. maybeeee we can't compete with the big boys money wise.should have sold to Rich Arabs!

15 Aug 2013 13:05:36
Spot on everyone.

Great point made out. By this time, we should have fixed our first team positions, and looking out to add squad players, Instead we did reverse.
I am happy with Asaps, seems an interesting signing.
Toure and Mingolet are readymade replacement. U must have a keeper, if one leaves.
17 days to go, and we are still short of 3 most important position, and it would increase on suarez situation.
People believes we did a great job in handling suarez situation.
HOW?
Has he left?
Is he going?
do we have repalcement?
Whats the money we got?
how many days left?

superb work eds. you guys have been fantastic. you would have a very crucial 17 days left.

Any of you thought about the possibility that we are trying to get our business done, but we don't want to pay over the odds, which is quite hard to do considering our last 2 managers paid waaay over the odds for average players. And add to that that we don't have European football to offer to our targets. FSG has got the money and are willing to back Rodgers if and when he finds value for money (i.e. Sturridge & Coutinho)
It's going to be a very long 2 weeks, but luckily the season starts on saturday!

Dalglish Loyalist:

Tony Blair was good at his job, if you believe that his job was to be the public face of the Labour Party and be able to "sell" to the general public whatever the policy makers were coming up with.

I think, I may be wrong, that was where the orginal poster may have been coming from with the comparison to BR?

Wow, a prime minister who took us into an illegal war which in turn led to the unlawful deaths of Iraq civilians and British troops was good at his job?

Well, we are entitled to an opinion I suppose, but the blood on the hands of a liar does nothing for me.

Anyway, back to football.

They are obviously chasing players of that caliber and have bid for HM earlier in the window.
So, you are wrong there, and further weakened your arguement by using a Tony Blair comparison.

T Blair: Led uk into an illegal war and cost the UK hundreds of lives and billions of pounds. Then he jumped ship just before the global recession.

Can't wait to see how Brendan will match that.

I agree with you 100 % . players of quality is what we need and they should have been brought in a long time ago . red forever

Liverpool have bid for Costa at 22m and Mkhitaryan at 20m. They are now willing to spend on Willian so your whole post is nonsense!

I'm sorry, but the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom's job is not just electioneering. That ridiculous assertion says everything about the modern voter.

Their job is to lead the country.

I can't say I agreed with his foreign policy or his statement that Iraq could pose a threat to the UK in 45 minutes!

Good job? You guys have LOW standards!

Your right AggerDo. His job was to smile big and be media savvy. Which he did.

It was that rubbish eating grin along with great marketing that got Labour back in power.

Pretty cringey when you look back now to see how the population went for it.

Politics on the forum hey!

Great posts Davey and Dalglish Loyalist.

Glad to see some people believe actions speak louder than words and have a sound recollection of historical events.

Let's hope Brendan much better.

16 Aug 2013 09:44:59
JC10,
When did we bid 20 mill for HM and dortumand got him for 21 mill?. Nonsense. we didn't even bid once. we had an intereste, but was ripped out by the asking price.

15 aug 2013 10:19:38
hey eds,
hypothetically were we to sign willian, would he play on the left side of our attack or in central midfield?

thanks a lot

ynwa {ed002's note - he would play to the left of darren bent who also hypothetically joined, and just ahead of paul konchesky who hypothetically returned. after 68 minutes he will be replaced by a hypothetical paul furlong as rodgers looks for a more direct and less hypothetical approach for the last 20 minutes.}

Oh god not the dreaded koncheski :(

Free if you subscribe to the xl package on virgin tv

Has anyone seen the New haircut being modelled by Koncheski?. he looks absolutely weird. he used to give me nightmares at left back before but it's worse now! LOL!

What was wrong with Koncheski?

Regards,

Paul's Mum.

Now now, don't insult Koncheskey - you will upset his mummy

Konchesky. Pierluigi Collina's kid brother. Without my glasses on, I used to get him and Skrtel mixed up.

Has there been a worse signing in recent times? I can't think of any.

15 Aug 2013 10:11:44
Damn Tottenham looks strong. Our ins: Mignolet, Toure, Aspas, Alberto
Tottenham ins: Paulinho, Chadli, Soldado, Capoue.
Now Rodgers really got to step up to reach top 4 this upcoming season! What do you think Guys?

YNWA

Yeah especially if they add Erik Lamela, Christian Eriksen and Willian . let's just hope they don't gel

Agree mate

15 Aug 2013 10:59:36
yeah they r signing good players but they know they r getting 80m in the coffers imo just before deadline, nobody seems that interested in r troubled star player except the non trophy winning bigger club arsenal with their crap 40m and 1pound bid isay put it to arsenal 60m and 1 pound to all the rest away from english football 55m and reinvest quick, before deal is officially reported like spurs r doing.

They are a good side without doubt. But not great. I think that they are still weak in defense, have loads of central midfielders who all do the same job and if bale leaves then they will be severely weakened. I am also still not convinced about AVB either.

Add Coutinho and Sturridge to the Liverpool signings. Add Holtby to Totenham as well. I think it's Arsenal that are in trouble! If Liverpool sign Willian and Papa they will be competing with the top teams in the country.

Looks to me as if they are replacing bale mate.
We will still be bringing in up to 3 more players so let's focus on ourselves, but to be fair it will be ibtresting watching spurs this season with all these new signings.

That would have been our side. had the Spuds not nicked all of our transfer targets. ok maybe not ALL of them were out targets but you know what I mean. LOL

15 Aug 2013 13:08:21
jesus.
How is Spurs have a weak defence than us?
jay and Lloris are pretty solid player at back. Walker is way better than Johnosn.
They just need a solid LB and probably another CB, so as we need.
They have strong midfield, better than us. dembele, and sandro with huddlestone, dempsy, siggurdson, and paulinho.
They have speedstars in the wings, lenon and bale,

If spurs hold onto bale with their additions I see them really pushing for 3rd or 4th. That is a stacked midfield

Personally, I don't care about Spurs.

Cabrio if spurs got all those players (which they will not) they would have loads of individually great players but collectively I think they would struggle massively

You can't buy 7-8 players like that and sit them on the bench and there is no way they would gel in 1 season, so they would miss out on top 4 and then lose them again

15 Aug 2013 14:19:46
regardlees to press reports spurs are in a very good position! they have money to burn! and are looking at lamela & eriksen to join as well as another centre half such as otamendi, alderweirald or chiriches! they have demanded a world record fee for the welshman! and they are asking for what madrid cannot do? a lump sum!, madrid are asking for instlments and spurs are saying no! bale, who the press would have you believe wants out. not the case! he would be equally happy to stay (new baby & partner wanting to stay in london), the pending arrival of coentrao has nothing to do with the bale possible departure, spaeking with my work colleague who is a spurs fan thinks the return of kaboul will would strengthen their team? so I think they may do well?

Looking at the buys you would place Spurs before us and Arsenal for fourth place.
In fact before Man U, I think if Man U do not buy big this summer, they might not make top four
Still over two week to go for LFC, Arsenal and Man U to strengthen.
Looks like this might be the most competition EPL for some time

You honestly think they are great signings? I think a lot of spending for spendings sake. If Bale goes they are screwed. End of. I'm not saying we are better or worse but there is a reason they don't finish top 4 and never win anything.

My take on that is they spend poorly and don't bring any youth through which is the heart beat of a team. Also they do not know how to win. They have no winners in the team. When the going gets tough the Spurs get running. Not a dig just reality

They are only adding as they a losing a lot of midfield players: huddlestone, parker, dempsey etc and their attack is getting old: defoe and adebayor both over thirty. we are adding and not losing first team players(except carra)

15 Aug 2013 09:39:58
Excellent news for the latest LFC musical offering. The next version of the Anfield Wrap will be featuring our new signings Will-I-am and Shakira. On the footballing side we are hoping shakira brings along her boyfriend. Now that WOULD strengthen our back four.

Look out too for the Luis Suarez version of You Spin Me Right Round Baby.

What about or CB Dan with his lyrics of shaking pineapples and pushing trees?

15 Aug 2013 09:13:35
Tip of the day:

Never trust a man who refers to himself in third person.

No sure we have taken a £35M "hit" at all. My understanding was that, for Carroll at least, we paid in cash, so actually we will have a cash benefit. In accounting terms, my understanding again is that players' transfer fees are depreciated over the term of their contract; Carroll was about halfway through his contract, so his "book value" will actually have been pretty close to his sale price.

Carroll went for 15m more than his value at that time. Torres went for 20-25m more than his value at the time. Neither Liverpool nor Chelsea got their money's worth. Newcastle did very well out of it.

15 Aug 2013 12:32:12
YNWAdam disagrees with this tip. He says it is superstitious and childish.

15 Aug 2013 07:23:10
If it sounds too good to be true, then it's probably not true.

Would love us to sign Willian, but with Anzhi already turning down 40 mil euros from City, can you really see us topping that figure?

15 Aug 2013 09:12:25
Not in current situation, But things acn change swiftly, who knows what Henry is thinking about.

If we get enough for Suarez, then maybe. And maybe not even then.

Andy K

15 Aug 2013 10:28:32
I think we would drag this willian Issue till end of the window.

15 Aug 2013 00:43:11
Hi to everyone. Can I say what a great job y'all do on this site - not just the eds but everyone. My name is Alex. I live in Florida. In 'nutters beach'. I used to manage a soccer team in England when I was younger. We won lots of trophies. And I had some excellent players in my team. But I would like to say that I haven't seen anyone quite like the lads now playing at Liverpool. I mean you have guys of the quality of Jordan Henderson and Stewart downing. Jeeziz you'll go far. Anyway I'm off fer a scotch and a laugh at the beach here with with the man that took over from me - young David. Good luck to you all for the new season.
Mister Ferguson

15 Aug 2013 09:50:57
Fergie the Great! Never realized u've got good sense of humor.

Nutters beach is a nice spot. Just down the road from me.

Keep that red face out of the sun Alex!

Make sure to put a whole bunch of sun screen on that nose.