Liverpool Banter Archive December 15 2010

 

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15 Dec 2010 23:51:24
About the crowd. . .There is a new generation of fan at anfield now. . When the seats went in the hardcore fans stopped goin to anfield. .some still go away and in europe and that left a void that was filled by BOB from sc* thorpe. .IAN and his wife from reading. tord and inga from sweden. and Brian from wrexham. .these dudes sit there with there flask of Coffee say F* * all all game and are too scared to state there opinion.
There goes your atmosphere. .

If we have a new stadium in the near future they should make it compulsory to go nuts and sing like a lunatic until your tonsils fall out of your A* *.

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15 Dec 2010 23:49:14
The games just keep getting worse don't they Ed? Can you see and end of our misery and depression in sight mate?

Blair (ready for hanging himself) Mayne YNWA {ed's note - a run of bad results would force them to act, he can't have long left with performances like that!}

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15 Dec 2010 23:46:48
Maybe NESV will be asking Roy Hodgson to resign soon .

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15 Dec 2010 23:44:51
Kevin Keegan said it is upto the team to entertain the crowd first , then the crowd can support the players in return .

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15 Dec 2010 23:44:02
I was a big fan of RAFA, although I do admit that he had his faults and made some strange decisions and some rubbish signings over his tenure. I cannot however understand how and why we replaced him with this deluded idiot. RH is taking this team backwards and is undoing all the work RAFA did. The players look totally disinterested and the signings he has made (apart from Mereiles) are worse than anything RAFA ever made.

Fabian Treezle

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15 Dec 2010 23:42:25
Took my daughter to the game tonite and she wanted to leave early. RH has stated that nothing would change with a different manager coz he would have same players. The same when Redknapp took over from Ramos hey Roy. Its about tactics, its about motivation you clearly lack in both areas.

Please leave now Roy!

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15 Dec 2010 23:41:55
I absolutley agree about the young players at LFC. .They may have basic ability so they are either being coached wrong or not talented enough to break through. They are getting chances now and look nervous and edgy. At arsenal they would be taught better in possesion of the ball and they seem to buy talent and bring it through there ranks and turn them in to superstars. WE HAVE NOT DONE THIS FOR YEARS. .We waste young talent and have done for years. .like it or not LFC is not a good place to learn your trade. we have the facilities yes. .Do we have the coaches teaching the right football philosophy 100% NO. .

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15 Dec 2010 23:41:19
We can only be 1 or 2 games away from seeing the back of Roy. I'm sure Henry said the other night that the team would put a show on for the kids, that display tonight probably put them off football for life. Bad result against fulham must be the end.

LAVERS

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15 Dec 2010 23:40:16
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Listening to Woy in is post match press conference, he was alluding to the fact that Conor Coady may have been involved tonight, if it wasn't for the youth cup!

YNWA

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15 Dec 2010 23:34:50
I'm actually sympathetic with Joe Cole. He's being played out of position and can't get into games because of it. We lack creativity in the middle so the logical thing to do would be to move J.Cole into a more central position where his creative talents can be utalised.

But it won't happen under Woy Hodgson. Joe is doing gweat where he is cuwwently playing I'm sure Woy is weally happy with his hoofs.

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15 Dec 2010 23:31:05
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Roy buys poulson, sends aqualani on loan to juve wheres the sense in that especially when aqua gets man of the match in his last game against lazio and then picks up the player of the month award.
that says it all!

kdkop

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15 Dec 2010 23:29:59
NESV's plans to bring to bring the next generation of fans to anfield tonight by giving away free tickets may have backfired. . My lad's first game tonight and he loves footy and LFC. He fell asleep twice. .didn't get to sing one song cos the place was like a Morgue. .and wanted to be in the utrecht end cos they were bouncing up and down and having a belter.

Better save up and move to barcelona. .

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15 Dec 2010 23:29:22
'Most boring display i have seen in a while. .

Liverpool lack attacking instinct. negative football,

Hodgson should go. . but to point this out aswell

OUR CROWD SUCKS . .

Sorry to say that . . but "the Liverpool supporters at anfield" gets outcheered every f* *ing match . . they only sing you never walk alone and excite a bit when something happens. but for the rest there quiet as f* *. i thought anfield was all about atmosphere . . Really poor crowd. . Get a new trainer , also get a new crowd. . =x'

MAYBE YOU SHOULD TRY GOING TO THE GAME FOR ONCE TO IMPROVE THE ATMOSPHERE MATE. CAN YOU REALLY BLAME THE CROWD FOR NOT GETTING EXCITED ABOUT THAT? ATMOSPHERE'S ARE A TWO-WAY STREET. .THE TEAM NEED TO FEED THE CROWD JUST AS MUCH AS THE OTHER WAY ROUND.

HODSGON OUT. .NOW

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15 Dec 2010 23:29:05
If Babel, Jovanovic, Cole and Poulsen are still at Anfield on 31st January there should be a massive boycott for the match against Stoke City on 2nd February. The display against Utrecht must rank as one of the worst in recent years. The fact that we only drew against Utrecht twice and never even managed to score a goal is a disgrace. Once again the close-ups of Roy Hodgson showed that he hasn't got a clue. Where are we going to go from here?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ? ?
Mal 49

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15 Dec 2010 23:28:10
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What i can't quite comprehend is how a club just bought for around £50 m, is sitting 13th in the table can sack their manager because he doesn't provides attacking football, but the most successful club in the history english football just been bought for £300m wants to give more time to a manager who makes his team play tripe like this. WHERE IS THE JUSTICE IN THIS? ?

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15 Dec 2010 23:24:39
15 Dec 2010 23:02:17
Some of our fanbase should just accept that players like Amoo, Mavinga, Kelly, Ecclestone, Pacheco and Ayala will never be Liverpool standard. Simply isn't going to happen.

They will all become half-decent players at best and won't ever be Liverpool standard. If we want to be back among the best teams in Europe in the next few years then these lads aren't going to ever develop into the standard required to start for us or even be on the bench.

Shelvey looks a prospect, and hopefully future managers give him more freedom to do what he likes to do.

Kelly will only ever be a squad player as will Pacheco, the rest, no. But none will develop into top class players we require.

And no-one here who talks about how amazing they are has seen them play much at all. You just say they're amazing because you jump onto the wagon about them and most of you just say it because they get a game or two on the bench or something.

Time and time again people talk about the lack of good young talent coming through our youth system and the state it is in (like some past players). There is nothing coming out of it apart from one or two good prospects, that's it.
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I 100% disagree with you mate the one's you named Amoo, Eccleston, Pacheco, Mavinga , Kelly and throw in Suso and Sterling. These are the one's that have the most potentional but are not allowed to show it with this idiot Hodgson. A perfect example would be Wilson who has impressed me everytime he's played but still will not be in Hodgson's thought's when he's picking his team against Fulham considering are defensive problems.

The reason Hodgson does not play these youngsters is because he won't take a chance. He's so much set in his ways he would rather play it safe and play probably worse but more experienced players (Poulson). I personally think if these youngsters were at Man'ure or Arsenal they would at least have a half dozen games under their belt already.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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15 Dec 2010 23:23:00
Just watching "60 minutes with Lucas" on LFC TV.

Really annoyed watching it actually. Lucas been talking about how he won the player of the year in Brazil (at such a young age) and playing so well and being captain of Brazil U21 side and getting into the Brazil squad.

Then he mentioned that he was used as an attacking-midfield in Brazil. That pisses me off because why the hell did Rafa use him as a defensive midfielder? For a start he wasn't big enough to be one especially in the Premiership. And now Roy Hodgson uses him more defensivly.

Hopefully with a new attack-minded coach going into next season we can see the real Lucas (although playing well this season) and see his attacking ability which we rarely seen (apart from spells in last season's Europa).

After this season it will have been 3 years of good vital development wasted because of two stubborn men.

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15 Dec 2010 23:14:33
Martin Kelly is ready to play centre back in the first team now and hopefully he will continue to play the ball upon the ground , Skrtel and Kyrgiakos kick it long every time , bring on Daniel Agger .

Shelvey looks athletic and willing to give is all , can only improve given the right opportunities .

Pacheco will be able to create more and score when he is allowed to play in the front line .

It appears Roy Hodgson is trying to flatter to decieve , will he ever be able to be more creative ?

1977

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15 Dec 2010 23:07:54
15 Dec 2010 22:50:30
Negative, negative, negative that's woy. he knew he was under pressure before tonights game and set the team up not to lose.its a joke what does this man do on the training ground all week?
didn't he say that nando would play some part, that it would be stupid not too!
we have fulham, blackpool, wolves and bolton our next 4 games we should be picking up 12 points end of if not i really feel for our club and season.
what ye think ed.

kdkop {ed's note - you could see what is worked on - just look at it again and you will see how well the team kept its shape. As soon as we lost the ball, drop deep form two lines of four and sit there blocking runners getting in behind}

so ed you think this is good tactics for our great club?sorry but not good enough.what about passing the ball, keeping the ball, playing at a high tempo and playing attacking football not puting a ball and chain on the players.

kdkop {ed's note - I don't like it at all, I want to see off the ball movement, short, sharp passing and high tempo, attacking football allied to the team pressing the opposition as far up the pitch as possible.}

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15 Dec 2010 23:06:21
If nesv don't get rid of roy now then they are as clueless as him how come these indian guys can come in 2 blackburn and get rid of big sam because of negetive football there close to us in the league but that's not acceptable to the new owners come on nesv take a leaf out of there book get rid of roy now before were in a relegation battle
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Don't talk crap mate. First of all, we aren't Blackburn ok? NESV want to get things in place like a new board and CEO, and they are looking for the right man instead of just appointing the first man they get. Don't know how many time it has to be said.

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15 Dec 2010 23:04:30
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What the hell is poulsen doing on the pitch?!
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Inspecting the quality of the grass, I reckon.

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15 Dec 2010 23:03:41
To the lottery winner
"Ok dude. . If they paid that much money , then is it to much to ask to cheer for there team? even in bad times or even in really bad times and boring games like these. there still fans and this team needs support . im not picking on the supporters , but they need to step up there game aswell. ."

This match may have been the only opportunity for some fans to afford to go and watch them play. The fans will always sing, but tonight was something else. Regardless of who was going to be/ who was selected, they failed to perform, some lacked effort, and some are paid over £100,000 per week and would rather be on twitter. I believe the fans who are scrimping and saving for Xmas have a right to say when they believe some players (not including the youngsters) are not performing and not carrying their weight.

Dirks Engine Room

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15 Dec 2010 23:02:17
Some of our fanbase should just accept that players like Amoo, Mavinga, Kelly, Ecclestone, Pacheco and Ayala will never be Liverpool standard. Simply isn't going to happen.

They will all become half-decent players at best and won't ever be Liverpool standard. If we want to be back among the best teams in Europe in the next few years then these lads aren't going to ever develop into the standard required to start for us or even be on the bench.

Shelvey looks a prospect, and hopefully future managers give him more freedom to do what he likes to do.

Kelly will only ever be a squad player as will Pacheco, the rest, no. But none will develop into top class players we require.

And no-one here who talks about how amazing they are has seen them play much at all. You just say they're amazing because you jump onto the wagon about them and most of you just say it because they get a game or two on the bench or something.

Time and time again people talk about the lack of good young talent coming through our youth system and the state it is in (like some past players). There is nothing coming out of it apart from one or two good prospects, that's it.

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15 Dec 2010 22:57:27
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{ed's note - I agree, but Roy will never leave out an experienced player to give a kid a chance in a meaningful match.}

exactly the reason why he should go i think. ok, so there needs to be a balance of experience and youth, but theres experience (aurelio, meireles, krgiakos) and theres experience (cole, poulson, skrtel) and the latter are not the kind of role models i would want for the youth. roy seems the type of manager that thinks with experienced players comes victory not even considering the much better talent available due to age. catch 22. they need to play to gain experience but can't play because of inexperience. roy needs to go. for the kids sake as well as ours

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15 Dec 2010 22:55:23
Do you know what guys, I can easily see Fulham coming back to haunt Roy Hodgson. And will have to get sacked if we don't beat them on the weekend.
It's Inevitable

harry5:)

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15 Dec 2010 22:54:48
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Have mixed feelings about tonights game. Think Shelvey, Kelly, Wilson and Pacheco were good as were Babel and Cole in patches but we were set out soooo deep and defensively that any attacking momentum was lost after a couple of passes. I Think the time for patience is over. We deserve better football than this.

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15 Dec 2010 22:53:22
Shocking team we have out tonight. Woy hasn't got a clue. At home in europe and puts out a team like that. Tonight was a night to be playing a strong side containing Torres. The guy needs match fitness, needs to get his confidence up infront of his home crowd. Cant for the life of me see why Woy is playing Poulsen and leaving the likes of pacheco on the bench. And Skrtel captain. Must be the worst player in our history to wear the arm band. . Hope im proved wrong, put we really could struggle tonight. kk
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If Hodgson had played Torres, and Torres had got injured you'd be moaning about how Hodgson played him in a meaningless game and cost us.

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Completely disagree. No game in Anfield infront of a packed house with 3 points on offer is a 'meaningless game.' Woeful performance. Woy really hasn't got much of a clue how our great club goes about things, we demand to win every game we play in. Full stop. We are not Fulham, draws are not good results for us. kk
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You clearly didn't read what I wrote above. Sigh.

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I clearly did, and i said i completely disagree. There is no such thing as a meaningless game, and therefore if Torres had of got injured it wouldn't have been for no reason. Them man gets paid to play, we can't wrap him in cotton wool. How the hell is he meant to get match fitness, and get his confidence going if he isn't getting game time. Considering he missed the Villa game i think it was necessary for him to play tonight.

On a completely different note, Joe Cole. What a waste of space. If i was him i'd be embarrased with myself. What was the deal with him taking that free in the last couple of mins. Never seen the man hit a free kick, ushers Pacheco away, who has been banging in freekicks for the ressies?

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15 Dec 2010 22:51:27
Not many positives to come out of tonight; however.

I think Kelly had a shakey start but done ok afterwards; there were times he had 2 players to mark due to Jovanovic not knowing where to play; which to be fair to him he's a striker not a left or right midfielder (note i didn't say winger as wingers are normally an attacking threat; can't wait for NESV to put a bid in for Messi and tell him to assist the full back first and attack should only come second).

Shelvey looked good in places but went missing sometimes but to be fair he's only young and if the rest of the team is not performing it's even harder for him.

I thought Wilson played well; he covers the other defenders well and at least passes to one of our players.

Pacheco looked lively but then started to make some mistakes; some his own others forced by other players giving him bad passes.

However what I can't understand is that to roll over teams you need to attack them and make them uncomfortable so why do we defend only up to the half way line in the first half and let them have the ball?

In terms of what wasn't so good then Poulsen is awful, doesn't tackle can't pass; if this is signs of Roy's plans for the team then I think he's come here to destroy us.

Also Kuyt's first touch is diabolical and has been for ages.

Now hear me out on this; Jovanovic and Cole were being asked to play games they don't know how to play (both are players who go forward and Cole was having to run back to defend in the first half all the time) Cole looked beter when he played in the hole late in the 2nd half.

As for Babel and Ecclestone they didn't really get many balls played to their feet that were in goalscoring opportunities (exception Kelly's cross) so it would be unfair to critise but saying that I don't think it's working out for Babel and it's probably best for both parties if he leaves.

The trouble is we have attack minded players being asked to defend first; added to this that the squad lacks pace so when we do counter we've normally got 8 of their players behind the ball; which doesn't mean counter attacking is effective.

Yes the players need to look at themselves but this is not going to get better for a while while he is still in charge IMO.

Hoola

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15 Dec 2010 22:50:39
15 Dec 2010 22:01:52
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Most boring display i have seen in a while. .

Liverpool lack attacking instinct. negative football,

Hodgson should go. . but to point this out aswell

OUR CROWD SUCKS . .

Sorry to say that . . but "the Liverpool supporters at anfield" gets outcheered every f* *ing match . . they only sing you never walk alone and excite a bit when something happens. but for the rest there quiet as f* *. i thought anfield was all about atmosphere . . Really poor crowd. . Get a new trainer , also get a new crowd. . =x
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I think your anger has got the better of you mate. Don't foget we had already topped the group but the "Crowd" looked and probably felt like i did during the match (depressed).

Don't blame the crowd (mostly kids) it's just the way we play. We should have teams on under pressure from the whistle. The simple reality is we don't and never will under Roy Hodgson so if your blaming or angry at anybody it should be at Roy Hodgson and no one else.

Take a valium and get a good night's sleep mate then you'll wake up and realise that it's not the crowd's fault but Hodgson's.

Blair Mayne YNWA

PS. Please Roy i'm begging you please f*** off!

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15 Dec 2010 22:50:39
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If nesv don't get rid of roy now then they are as clueless as him how come these indian guys can come in 2 blackburn and get rid of big sam because of negetive football there close to us in the league but that's not acceptable to the new owners come on nesv take a leaf out of there book get rid of roy now before were in a relegation battle

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15 Dec 2010 22:50:30
Negative, negative, negative that's woy. he knew he was under pressure before tonights game and set the team up not to lose.its a joke what does this man do on the training ground all week?
didn't he say that nando would play some part, that it would be stupid not too!
we have fulham, blackpool, wolves and bolton our next 4 games we should be picking up 12 points end of if not i really feel for our club and season.
what ye think ed.

kdkop {ed's note - you could see what is worked on - just look at it again and you will see how well the team kept its shape. As soon as we lost the ball, drop deep form two lines of four and sit there blocking runners getting in behind.}

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15 Dec 2010 22:44:21
Did anyone see Torres' face at the end, he looked bemused with woy, not suprised TBH, if I were a caring manager and I wanted to rest my 'big names'. . .I would of allowed Torres to spend some time with his beloved newborn child than sit through 90 mins of what could have been.

Won't be suprised if he goes in Jan.

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15 Dec 2010 22:38:35
This is all I have been able to say about the game tonight .

Was that the worst 30 mins of football at Anfield , ever ?

One thing is clear , LFC do not need Christian Poulsen .

Perhaps Roy Hodgson need'nt bother anymore , LFC is going nowhere with him .

Shelvey looks O.K

Everytime LFC win the ball they still have 70 yards to go such is depth of the backline .

Daniel Pacheco , bright spark .

Is Ryan Babel really going to throw his LFC career away .

If Roy Hodgosn thinks keeping clean sheets is all that is required , he is done for .

Jovanovic must be embarrassed to recieve £100,000 per week to do what Roy Hodgson wants him to do .

Hard to say this , LFC are utter tripe at the moment - the worst that they have ever been .

How dare Roy Hodgson manage LFC negatively .

I think the players themselves are starting to hope Roy Hodgson will soon be replaced .

How anyone on the LFC staff can be happy watching the same performance we have seen , only Roy Hodgson could know .

I think NESV will be feeling an urge to act against Roy Hodgson soon to lift the club and initiate better results .

1977

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15 Dec 2010 22:37:34
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Too the guy talking about the supporters. Buy a ticket and go a game you sad t* *. That bunch tonight should be ashamed of themselves tonight. Hard working people paid good money to go and look at that s* *e tonight. Tell me one moment they could have cheered. Nothing f* *ing happened. worst ever

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Ok dude. . If they paid that much money , then is it to much to ask to cheer for there team? even in bad times or even in really bad times and boring games like these. there still fans and this team needs support . im not picking on the supporters , but they need to step up there game aswell. .

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15 Dec 2010 22:34:28
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Roy Hodgson looks like a man who loses his job tonite. . so much stress on his face for what was a meaningless fixture. . watch this space. .

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15 Dec 2010 22:33:13
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{ed's note - isn't he only just 16?}

wasnt rooney just 16 when he was scoring for everton in the league though? sterling may not be ready now, but with a talent (understatement) like his, he should at least be included in the 1st squad, id have him ahead of cole to be honest, to boost his confidence now at a young age and maybe create a world beater before hes 20, at which time, by some people's opinions, he would just start breaking into the squad? hes a little gem and i think the sooner hes in the squad the better. just what we need, a speedy little winger with a bagfull of tricks {ed's note - I agree, but Roy will never leave out an experienced player to give a kid a chance in a meaningful match.}

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15 Dec 2010 22:33:00
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Yaaaaaaawn, that was boring! apart from the usual RH face rub ;-)

On a positive note well done NESV, the kids seemed to love the occasion tonight, a nice early Xmas present!

MJS

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15 Dec 2010 22:31:21
HODGSON talks a load of garbage! we won't play no dead games while he is in charge, well what have we all witnessed for 93 minutes pacey attacking free flowing football? like hell, in a game where we are in a no lose situation and he could have let the lads push forward more and take more chances, and at least be entertaining, mainly for the youngsters in the ground, what does the idiot do, plays them deep in his now famous play to not lose way!when the opponents are as bad as they were, we should expect at least 1 or two goals, HODGSON is a disgrace and is not fit to be the manager of our club, he is screwing our team up so badly that the players aren't sure what they are supposed to be doing! i could go on, but to tell you the truth, the man has got me at the end of my tether!

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15 Dec 2010 22:30:57
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Terrible game tonight! The more experienced players like J.Cole, Christian Poulsen, Ryan Babel, Milan Jovanovic and Fabio Aurelio needed to help the likes of Ecclestone and Pacheco and Wilson, but only Jova and Aurelio were half decent out of the older lot!

Hopefully Woy Hodgson will be sacked, and buy some cream for his face. .seems pretty itchy! And we should be able to get some decent signings in January, to help cement our place in the top 7, this season.

Big Summer Clearout!
Out. . .
Joe Cole - unless played centrally is terrible. 2million(from someone like West Ham?)
Ryan Babel - cash in on the flop, while he still has a value of about 8million.Can't control a ball to save his life.
Paul Konchesky - Bald. C* p. Terrible. Mistake prone. From Fulham(like Woy). Get him out. I doubt Accrington would even take him!
Martin Skrtel - Get about 8million for the lad, decent but too inconsistent and mistake prone.
Daniel Agger - Similar to Skerts. About 10million.
Christian Poulsen - can't set the tempo(as was shown tonight!)probably get a couple of million from a bottom half premiership team?
Alberto Aquilani - personally I thought he struggled at the start, but became sharper towards the end of Rafa's reign! Would like to keep him, probably go to Juve though - due to lack of first team football. 12million.
Stephen Darby - Wont play with Kelly and Johnson ahead of him.
Probs go to a championship side for around a million.
Jordy Brouwer - hasn't played for years! Sell him to some Dutch team for whatever!
Nabil el Zhar - our former 'super sub'. Sell him to a lesser team for a couple o' million.
Phil Degen - Definitely won't play, probably 4th choice RB now, so sell for 2million to Young Boys?
Emiliano Insua - Too fat, short, slow, no skill. Sell for about 4million to a Argentinian/ Italian side.

This money plus about 30million from JWH would give us about 70-80million. Save some hopefully, for younger talent, and the academies. Use some to strengthen the side, with a marquee signing.

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15 Dec 2010 22:28:48
Roy is pleased. .that's alright then!
shame everyone else is pissed right off!

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15 Dec 2010 22:25:45
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How is it possible that Poulsen is still being considered as a Liverpool player, let alone playing for 90mins. It is really pi££ing me off that instead of giving Ecclestone or Pacheco 90 minutes we are giving game time to the waste of skin that is Poulsen. He runs to an opposing player to make a tackle, and then when he gets there just runs along side him.

Give him a free transfer in Jan

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15 Dec 2010 22:25:44
TO Hoola
I totally agree, i will always support liverpool but will never support hodgson he has taken liverpool backwards , it is depressing watching liverpool play pass and hoof football this entire session, I no longer get involved in any kind of football banter

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15 Dec 2010 22:25:34
Ok so wasn't the team I wanted with youth and experience n he def didn't let them just go out n really go for it tonight sums Roy up he has to go now. Shelvy poor lad being put next to poulson who isn't worthy of tying my laces and told to hold n defend by looks of things bab n eccelston told to sit back deep why not press high up field Roy you tit Joe cole wasted Pacheco brought on out of position kuyt brought on cuz of history with club pointless sub. It appears Roy won't be happy until he has drained the spark imagination daring and offensive style out of every player at club get rid of the leech now before it's too late I do wonder how he has been finding work for the past 35 years. I would rather of just seen us lose getting countered but really going for it n playing attacking football than be put through what I just saw no wonder crowd was quiet and dejected. Redchris

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15 Dec 2010 22:21:15
Liverpool Rumours
Terrible performance against a sub standard team. what was cole's craic with free kick near the end? has he never seen dani take a free kick before? we could have won the game if pacheco had taken it. shocking. no one impressed me at all. no one had much to do and were still muck. babel surprisingly had a much better game than usual but i think its only because i saw him run for the ball. .twice or so. i thought pacheco, when he came on looked lively but seemed to be alienated by the others unless he was the final option, disgrace, the lad couldnt get into the game. poulson was, as always, trunks. to be honest, i thought we were in for a cracker when jovanovic hit the bar in the early minutes but that was as good as it got for us. all in all good to keep a clean sheet with a previously unused keeper, though id have liked to see at least 3 goals scored.
roys rubbing his face because hes frustrated, he can't see why we can't score while playing defensive football. is the word 'attack' even in his dictionary?

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15 Dec 2010 22:19:35
He must not be allowed to spend a penny.

Let's hope he has a strong bladder then!

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15 Dec 2010 22:17:38
15 Dec 2010 21:46:50
Utter, utter garbage. Babel's had a few memorable games in a LFC shirt. He's having another one now.

Ed, sorry to say but Kelly is doing himself no favours whatsoever in that right back position. He is poor, starting to look a little like a square peg in a round hole the more i see of him at RB.

Cole is utterly a waste of time. Getting nothing out of Poulsen. What the point is of him being in the side i don't know. He gives nowt defensively and even less going forward.

Aurelio is having an average game but is still streets ahead of Konchesky.

I'm still on the fence regarding Wilson, he appears to be slightly lacking in height and strength at the back, but looks comfortable on the ball.

Babel MotM for me. Outstanding awful. Seriously i don't think you could even play this bad if you tried.

i think i'll tweat the bast* d later.

Bob the Red

YOU ARE SUCH AN IDIOT? did you even watch the game you tool. What was babel meant to do when the whole plan with hodgson is to sit deep? babel was forced to create chances by himself god you're a total fool bob the red i mean wow? babel and eccleston just chased ball all game and watched the utrecht defence pass it? then hoof it i know how fustraiting it is for a striker to play in that sort of game believe me i used to play for barnet quite when i was 26. So do one.

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15 Dec 2010 22:16:36
Shocking team we have out tonight. Woy hasn't got a clue. At home in europe and puts out a team like that. Tonight was a night to be playing a strong side containing Torres. The guy needs match fitness, needs to get his confidence up infront of his home crowd. Cant for the life of me see why Woy is playing Poulsen and leaving the likes of pacheco on the bench. And Skrtel captain. Must be the worst player in our history to wear the arm band. . Hope im proved wrong, put we really could struggle tonight. kk
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If Hodgson had played Torres, and Torres had got injured you'd be moaning about how Hodgson played him in a meaningless game and cost us.

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Completely disagree. No game in Anfield infront of a packed house with 3 points on offer is a 'meaningless game.' Woeful performance. Woy really hasn't got much of a clue how our great club goes about things, we demand to win every game we play in. Full stop. We are not Fulham, draws are not good results for us. kk
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You clearly didn't read what I wrote above. Sigh.

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15 Dec 2010 22:14:33
15 Dec 2010 21:56:49
Roys rubbing his face his balls the back of his head his third chin, oh and he's now rubbing his heart, if only!

uncalled for.
Sharpen up sunshine.

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15 Dec 2010 22:14:32
Today s game is prime example of Roy s inability nd some of rubbish we have . time to get rid of Roy nd Sammy bf few players . .kuyt all he does is run senseless into centre nd no.passing or skill. .babel needs to go . .poulsen I can't even describe him. .

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15 Dec 2010 22:14:32
ROY CALLED UTRECHT A TOUGH TEAM.

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15 Dec 2010 22:14:31
Roy reminds me of phil cool when he rubs his face you expect an alien to appear, jimmybosun, dont know which is worse roys rubbing or arrys twitching,

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15 Dec 2010 22:14:27
Too the guy talking about the supporters. Buy a ticket and go a game you sad t***. That bunch tonight should be ashamed of themselves tonight. Hard working people paid good money to go and look at that s***e tonight. Tell me one moment they could have cheered. Nothing f***ing happened. worst ever

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15 Dec 2010 22:13:14
Liverpool Rumours
Ed .do you know who was in charge and when Liverpool ever started a season so s*** as this year.don't think we were this poor under souness were we ?cheers mate {ed's note - I think we are looking back before Shanks took over since we played this badly. At least Souness sent out his teams to win rather than try not to concede.}

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15 Dec 2010 22:12:47
Jones 5/ 10
Kelly 7/ 10
Wilson 7/ 10
Skrtel 5/ 10
Greek 5/ 10
Aurelio 7/ 10
cole 0/ 10
Poulsen 0/ 10
Shelvey 8/ 10
Pacheco 8/ 10
Jovanovic 3/ 10
Eccleston 5/ 10
Babel 0/ 10

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15 Dec 2010 22:12:22
Shelvey should had taken that last free kick, Cole just went for power, someone should have told him he's not stevie g. jova looked poor again besides that long shot, he can't pass to save his life. poulsen was nowhere to be found. I don't think "pass" is even in babel's vocabulary, he must have taken 5-6 shots when he should have passed it.

on a brighter note, wilson played very well and kelly didn't do too bad either considering the pressure he was under the whole match. pacheco really affected the game when he came on as well.

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15 Dec 2010 22:10:52
Liverpool Rumours
Finally ive finished it roy your resignations in the post i will collect my fee tomorrow.DORSET RED

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15 Dec 2010 22:09:57
Game is over ed get ready to reply i think you should just go for a shower and reply all in the morning :)
boring game not too bothered i only get bothered around quarters cos then you play teams you actually know
night all going to the fulham game 3-0 we're solid at home.

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15 Dec 2010 22:07:59
Its simple. Roy is s* t and so are 90% of our players. Cole crap, jova crap, kuyt, bebel [really crap]. Young players need a lot of improving to get in first team. Hate the way we play last few years. Awful on the eye. Rant over

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15 Dec 2010 22:05:56
One of the worst matches i have ever seen. I don't care if it wasnt an important game, i was hoping for a roll over. skrtel off kyrgiakos on, WTF? Waste of a sub. pacheco played well, eccelstone played reasonably well, shelvey bossed the first half, wilson had a comfortable game. But no matter how well anyone played, he will revert back to the same team which lost to newcastle. Just get out roy, u are a discrace to liverpool fc, u don't understand where players want to play, u can't make big decisions, u don't hav a good footballing brain. so just leave now.

E.H LFC

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15 Dec 2010 22:05:53
15 Dec 2010 19:49:09
Shocking team we have out tonight. Woy hasn't got a clue. At home in europe and puts out a team like that. Tonight was a night to be playing a strong side containing Torres. The guy needs match fitness, needs to get his confidence up infront of his home crowd. Cant for the life of me see why Woy is playing Poulsen and leaving the likes of pacheco on the bench. And Skrtel captain. Must be the worst player in our history to wear the arm band. . Hope im proved wrong, put we really could struggle tonight. kk
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If Hodgson had played Torres, and Torres had got injured you'd be moaning about how Hodgson played him in a meaningless game and cost us.

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Completely disagree. No game in Anfield infront of a packed house with 3 points on offer is a 'meaningless game.' Woeful performance. Woy really hasn't got much of a clue how our great club goes about things, we demand to win every game we play in. Full stop. We are not Fulham, draws are not good results for us. kk

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15 Dec 2010 22:05:46
Still learning his game with Rudolfo in accademy he's a bit young and not ready yet, He's not even regular for ressies, give him time maybe, 3-4 yrs yet

UCCM {ed's note - isn't he only just 16?}

I think so but i wouldn't say for sure, But we do have promise from the accademy.

Ed is Stan Collymoor a manure fan, coz all he ever does is critisize us.

Well said Pat nevin, Danny wilson to start against Fulham.

UCCM {ed's note - he is an a**e, so he could be ;o)}

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15 Dec 2010 22:05:14
Why- have the injury prone Torres on a cold bench
Why- bring Pacheco on and play him defensive RM
Why - play Joe Cole on the left
Why-are the midfield so deep
Why- is Roy still manager
Nesv must act now this is totally unacceptable.
He must not be allowed to spend a penny.

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15 Dec 2010 22:04:26
Oh my f***in god i can't believe how s* te we were, in the 1st half the only 2 ppl in there half were eccleston an babel, no pressin, no ergency, no flair roys got no idea what it means to manage my beloved club, nice bloke but its time u went pal ive heard blackburn are lookin for a manager

ed what are your thoughts mate ? {ed's note - it was sickeningly bad, we were far too defensive.}

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15 Dec 2010 22:03:11
Liverpool Rumours
Evening ed . Thought Wilson, Kelly, and shealvy done ok .but Roy got to go not got a clue until he goes we won't get anywhere .cheers psvelnino {ed's note - it is depressing isn't it? There is no belief in that team that I can see.}

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15 Dec 2010 22:01:58
Liverpool Rumours
I saw Pacheco poke a tongue at Kelly after he misplaced a pass

And Babel aparently called someone an 'old man'

Something should be done about these violent players it's unacceptable!

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15 Dec 2010 22:01:52
Liverpool Rumours
Most boring display i have seen in a while. .

Liverpool lack attacking instinct. negative football,

Hodgson should go. . but to point this out aswell

OUR CROWD SUCKS . .

Sorry to say that . . but "the Liverpool supporters at anfield" gets outcheered every f***ing match . . they only sing you never walk alone and excite a bit when something happens. but for the rest there quiet as f***. i thought anfield was all about atmosphere . . Really poor crowd. . Get a new trainer , also get a new crowd. . =x

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15 Dec 2010 22:01:17
Woy hodgson is really starting to reck my head! First he says he's going to play reina then doesn't even put him in the squad and says he's going to start Torres, then leaves him on the bench and then doesn't even play him! Is hodgson recking anyone else head?

Yes hes recking every players head who turns up for training!

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15 Dec 2010 22:00:58
Roy you are f***ing gone mate. You are a joke I can't be arsed with your defensive s***e anymore. LFC is better than what you are fumbling about with. A f***ing joke tonight. Worst game I've seen in a while.

Spriggo

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15 Dec 2010 22:00:16
Oh no ed look out think you will be very busy now lol {ed's note - tell me about it!!}

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15 Dec 2010 22:00:07
Liverpool Rumours
Hi ed that game wes so boring not bad play by the young players but we need to play better than that you could tell it was goingto bea bore draw what youthink ed {ed's note - from the start we were far too deep, I feel sick from watching that, I have never seen so little desire and attacking intent from any Liverpool side.}

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15 Dec 2010 21:59:34
What a boring game worse than watching paint dry, babel needs to go , poulson should never wear the red shirt again , was joe cole playing?? ? ?were was hodgson! ! !??
shelvey, wilson, eccleston, pachecoe played ok

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15 Dec 2010 21:57:38
Roy done himself no harm playing

Kelly
Wilson
Shelvey
Eccleston

Now Pacheco too, Thank you Roy.

UCCM

Can I please ask that no thanks be directed towards Roy Hodgson until he does the decent thing and hand in his resignation. His style is poor, his tactics are shocking and his f"£$ing face rub is annoying. Speaking of Kelly Wilson Shelvey Pacheco Eccleston. They should be getting game time week after week, There good players now and they'll improve quicker in the team. If this season is 'written off' then why aren't they playing all the time. Please go Roy then I will give you all the thanks I can give.

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15 Dec 2010 21:56:52
Calling Poulson a donkey is an insult to the Donkey.

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15 Dec 2010 21:56:49
Roys rubbing his face his balls the back of his head his third chin, oh and he's now rubbing his heart, if only!

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15 Dec 2010 21:55:31
Well thanks for boring everyone senseless tonight!
Absolutely useless!

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15 Dec 2010 21:55:02
I think the players themselves are starting to hope Roy Hodgson will soon be replaced .

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15 Dec 2010 21:54:55
Liverpool Rumours
Why not go 433 an just have a fu* *n go nothing to loose goals and attack makes fans an players happy pacheco looked good

olty

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15 Dec 2010 21:48:46
Kelly and wilson playin very well tonight.should start next game.wilson very comfortable on ball aswell

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15 Dec 2010 21:48:35
Not even a late goal. .a spectacular 50 yarder even could save this game. . .it hurts to watch!

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15 Dec 2010 21:48:30
Cole looks much better playing central.

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15 Dec 2010 21:48:25
Liverpool Rumours
I really really hope we don't sign any players in January, If this clown"ROY" is still here. We'll just end up with over paid players like Joe Cole, Poulsen & Paul Kon.
I Hope Henry Saves His Money For The New Manager

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15 Dec 2010 21:47:01
1 up front at home. Says it all. Please go now. Negative, deep, unambitious. Spoiler of good players!

Muzmacol YNWA

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15 Dec 2010 21:46:50
Utter, utter garbage. Babel's had a few memorable games in a LFC shirt. He's having another one now.

Ed, sorry to say but Kelly is doing himself no favours whatsoever in that right back position. He is poor, starting to look a little like a square peg in a round hole the more i see of him at RB.

Cole is utterly a waste of time. Getting nothing out of Poulsen. What the point is of him being in the side i don't know. He gives nowt defensively and even less going forward.

Aurelio is having an average game but is still streets ahead of Konchesky.

I'm still on the fence regarding Wilson, he appears to be slightly lacking in height and strength at the back, but looks comfortable on the ball.

Babel MotM for me. Outstanding awful. Seriously i don't think you could even play this bad if you tried.

i think i'll tweat the bast* d later.

Bob the Red

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15 Dec 2010 21:46:31
Liverpool Rumours
Isnt this game suppose to be a dead game so why are we playing so deep.why play 442 in a dead game just go for it roy the result doesn't matter play 433 instead u silly old tool.DORSET RED

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15 Dec 2010 21:45:45
Liverpool Rumours
Hodgson, please just leave and take Koncheski, Poulson, Babel, Aurelio, and Sammy Lee with you! There's no heart in the club, we need players who support the club, bleed for the club, not gob-sh1tes like Babel that can't even spell Liverpool! !

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15 Dec 2010 21:45:08
Purslow, Broughton and Ayres are at fault for our current position - for appointing a person - remember our Chairman at the time was a Chelsea fan - and proved it by appointing the pipe and slippers numpty.
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Yet he was key in helping get rid of Hicks and Gillette? You obviously bought into this whole media thing about Broughton being a Chelsea fan. Regardless of who he supports, he came to do a job (oversee the sale of the club) and he did exactly that.

Anyone who believes in some conspiracy theory about a Chelsea fan being chairman and having an agenda against Liverpool is stupid.

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15 Dec 2010 21:44:12
What the f*ck is the point in Meireles, Torres and whoever on the bench as well as telling the lads to play defensive.

Hodgeson out now. You have no idea. You have lost the fabs and the players.

Spriggo.

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15 Dec 2010 21:44:00
I see my thank you roy post got some disagree's, I no we not playing brill, but its Christmas cheer up you grumpy old men lol, seriously 2010 coming to a close, lets hope 2011 ends with it being are year.

UCCM {ed's note - this is the worst Liverpool side of my lifetime, and I was going every week to watch Souness's team.}

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15 Dec 2010 21:43:20
Liverpool Rumours
Where do you start

Babel back to his old lazy self Pacheco done more in10 mins than he has all match

Jovanovitch lazy leaving Kelly to drfend against 2 men

Cole couldnt trapt a bag of wet sand

Shelvey lost without support

Poulsen why is he here shouldnt even keep the bench warm

I despair we should be dispatching teams like this with ease
TC

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15 Dec 2010 21:43:16
How dare Roy Hodgson manage LFC negatively .

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15 Dec 2010 21:42:59
Hodgson fcuk off now please, get Dalglish, Thompson and Rush to step.

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15 Dec 2010 21:41:56
Hard to say this , LFC are utter tripe at the moment - the worst that they have ever been .

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15 Dec 2010 21:41:30
Roy scratching and rubbing his face again, if we lose tonight I reckon the Fulham match will be the game that breaks the camels back.

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15 Dec 2010 21:38:12
Liverpool Rumours
Woy hodgson is really starting to reck my head! First he says he's going to play reina then doesn't even put him in the squad and says he's going to start Torres, then leaves him on the bench and then doesn't even play him! Is hodgson recking anyone else head?

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15 Dec 2010 21:38:06
Jovanovic must be embarrassed to recieve £100,000 per week to do what Roy Hodgson wants him to do .

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15 Dec 2010 21:37:04
Liverpool Rumours
Why doesn't Pacheco start along side Torres this weekend the boy is class. Plus if Torres is a bit p'ssed off at mo it might perk him up a bit with a young spaniard to show the ropes.

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15 Dec 2010 21:35:41
Why are we playing so deep this is Utrect in a nothing game, not Barcelona in a champions league second leg semi final. Do you want to win the fans over or not Roy?Attack them .

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15 Dec 2010 21:34:50
Another Roy face rub- how inspirational.

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15 Dec 2010 21:33:58
Liverpool Rumours
What the hell is poulsen doing on the pitch?! He isn't gd enough to play for tooting and mitcham fc let alone the most successful club in england

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15 Dec 2010 21:33:56
ROY HAS TO GO

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15 Dec 2010 21:33:34
Liverpool Rumours
Makes me laugh just how s* t poulsen really is , i think he could go down as the worst player in the history of liverpool! All he does is foul players , give the ball to centre backs and give the ball away , just shows hodgsons managerial ability is shocking why play a player who is that bad! Cant you see roy! Thankfully we won't be signing no more poulsens now we have comolli. DLG

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15 Dec 2010 21:29:39
Skrtel captain & now the Greek. All we need is for Poulsen to take over & we will have the set. The 3 stooges!

The Irish Rover

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15 Dec 2010 21:29:33
If Roy Hodgosn thinks keeping clean sheets is all that is required , he is done for .

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15 Dec 2010 21:27:24
Cum'ath the hour Cum'ath the man Pacheco to the rescue!

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15 Dec 2010 21:27:10
Sorry for the language Ed but i F*CKING love Dani Pacheco thank god he's on.

Roy done himself no harm playing

Kelly
Wilson
Shelvey
Eccleston

Now Pacheco too, Thank you Roy.

UCCM

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15 Dec 2010 21:27:03
That it ryan babbels officially a stinker shelveys looking good though1

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15 Dec 2010 21:26:58
Dani Pacheco on! . . . .but guess what?. . he's playing too deep!, i rest my case about Roy!

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15 Dec 2010 21:26:56
Is Ryan Babel really going to throw his LFC career away .

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15 Dec 2010 21:26:10
Daniel Pacheco , bright spark .

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15 Dec 2010 21:22:54
Liverpool Rumours
Ed why everyone posting in this site that roy has only 3 games to prove. I think they seggregate each 3 games and posting this with some points in their mind.

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15 Dec 2010 21:22:15
Everytime LFC win the ball they still have 70 yards to go such is depth of the backline .

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15 Dec 2010 21:22:12
Pacheco finally getting his chance

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15 Dec 2010 21:20:42
I really don't know what to say. . . . . .

poor poor liverpool please roy go you are killing us as a footballing side

have seen rush, dalglish, thompson sitting in the stands our new management team maybe i wish. . . . . .

so disappointed in the players but they are being told to play a certain way so he as to go

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15 Dec 2010 21:20:40
What is this? Because it isn't Liverpool. Hodgson out, attack, attack, attack! Soo disappointed so far. :(

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15 Dec 2010 21:20:24
Liverpool Rumours
Do people think Torres not going the game was a marketing ploy to get large audiences to attend the game? I mean if I heard Torres wasn't playing i'd have reservations about going if it meant watching Babel instead.

Disgraceful Liverpool. Get Roy out now! "Fitness people made me see sense"? VILE.

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15 Dec 2010 21:18:09
Does ed or anyine else know about the progress of Raheem Sterling? He was meant to be a brilliant winger, and seemed very good at carra's game. has something happened to him or can he provide the width we need?

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15 Dec 2010 21:17:31
Liverpool Rumours
I woulld pity the poor people who actually paid to watch that first half complete rubbish anybody who buys and persistently plays poulsen shouldnt b managing a top team.joe cole is also woeful

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15 Dec 2010 21:17:10
Take off babel, cole and eccleston, put nando, kuyt and pacheco on

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15 Dec 2010 21:16:44
Thats it can't watch any more of this shait, we have no idea.

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15 Dec 2010 21:13:35
Liverpool Rumours
Just a few points to make as a first time poster, I really enjoy looking through this site but find some of the posts on here exasperating to say the least, i.e. the clown who needs a calender for xmas. We all know the manager is a dead man walking who should never have been given the job in the first place but frustrating as it is we are going to have to wait for the correct manager to come along such as a hiddink or my personal choice hitzfeld as the next appointment is going to be the most impotant appointment of a manager at liverpool for the last 30 years because we are at a pivitol point in the clubs history. Bring in the wrong man and we are looking at the same mid-table slog as the blue sh* e face year on year, bring in the correct man & we can start to look ahead again. If we are looking at a short term fix then let the man take over who should have been given the job in the summer K.K. One final point we can't afford him anyway but I wouldn't touch TEVEZ no matter what the price.

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15 Dec 2010 21:12:00
Liverpool Rumours
Ed, is the guy you want called Perotti, I believe he's Argenti. .what? Oh.

TopCat.

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15 Dec 2010 21:05:29
FINALLY. . . .Pat Nevin on channel 5, saying what we all think about Roy's tactics and where Joe Cole is playing tonight (i.e as left wing-back) - sort it out please, or better still just get out of our club. Joe Cole is a number 10 not a wing back. . .

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15 Dec 2010 21:02:19
Liverpool Rumours
So you see it more in this game with the young players trying to impress roy that any time the back four get the ball the just lump it up field then hope the front players get to knock it back

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15 Dec 2010 21:02:06
Poor half, no creavity, no flair, no quality. too scared to attack this poor utrecht side without wolfswinkel. Shelvey the best player by a mile, poulsen was poor, eccelstone showed glimpses of quality. Please be brave and switch to 4/ 3/ 1/ 2


Jones
Kelly Skrtel Wilson Aurelio
Jovanovic (rw) Shelvey Eccelstone (lw)
Cole (cam)
Torres Babel

E.H LFC

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15 Dec 2010 21:00:49
It's sad to see that on the day we give free tickets to kids, we play like that and torture them. Cole's been poor, so has Kelly.

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15 Dec 2010 21:00:40
Stan Collymore who the f*** are you.

Joe Cole is s***. End of. Waste of a signing. As is Jovanovic. Babel. Poulson.

f*** this Manager off. I'm sick of this s***.

Spriggo

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15 Dec 2010 20:59:29
No one can defend Hodgson - in any way shape or form - he hasn't got a CV that would be acceptable to a Blue Square Premier side - simple facts are - his tactical know how is non existent, never won a trophy outside of Scandanavia in 35 years as a manager.

Purslow, Broughton and Ayres are at fault for our current position - for appointing a person - remember our Chairman at the time was a Chelsea fan - and proved it by appointing the pipe and slippers numpty.

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15 Dec 2010 20:58:58
Boring boring liverpool

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15 Dec 2010 20:56:55
One shot in :45 minutes great tactics Roy.so so deep no plan b.play jova up front ecclestone wide left Cole just behind - not rocket science Roy,

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15 Dec 2010 20:55:45
After watching the first 45mins against Utrecht i think John Henry should get a lift to Martin O'neills house and say 'save whats left of our season'. .
Give him some money to spend and get rid of most of the crap that's on our pitch. . . . . . . . .

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15 Dec 2010 20:54:20
Pooolson is pure quality world class he must be on the radar of Real Madrid Barcalona Man City Bayern, he must be a steal at £250 million. I understand from a club source oh and "Macca" that he has a clause in his contract stating that Liverpool will accept 2 bob an old toothbrush and some belly button fluff if the deals done anytime in the next 4yrs?
True or False

Fast asleep

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15 Dec 2010 20:52:16
Shelvey looks O.K

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15 Dec 2010 20:48:16
Perhaps Roy Hodgson need'nt bother anymore , LFC is going nowhere with him .

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15 Dec 2010 20:43:32
One thing is clear , LFC do not need Christian Poulsen .

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15 Dec 2010 20:39:49
If Poulsen was a horse he'd have been put down at this stage. Absolutely nothing to offer Liverpool.

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15 Dec 2010 20:36:23
Was that the worst 30 mins of football at Anfield , ever ?

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15 Dec 2010 20:36:20
Glad to see jovanovic, babel, eccelstone, wilson, kelly, aurelio been given a chance for once. Not happy to see poulsen playing, skrtel as captain (or even being on the pitch) or pacheco not playing. Cole needs to prove himself, and hopefully get kuyt out the first team. Aurelio needs to play well to get that donkey out of left back, and jovanovic also needs to show his worth to roy.


Lol, , with the exception of Wilson and Pacheco the rest are deadwood and are all playing for one reason only and that is the shop window in January.

None of them would grace the first 11 of any of the top six utter garbage.

more happening now on Nigel Slaters simple suppers BBC1

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15 Dec 2010 20:16:18
Two strikers about 10 yards behind the half way line. All four in midfield were standing in front of the back four when Utrect had possession. Standing off the opposition AGAIN and letting them knock it about. F* king fed up with this. I know it's a meaningless game but we could atleast show more ambition and get goals for the fans. And why is Jovanovic on the right and J.Cole on the left? Should it not be the opposite way round for width and balance? Honestly fed up with this defensive malarky. And we'll have to bloody put up with it for the rest of the season. Hodgson is a stubborn b* * *d.

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15 Dec 2010 20:14:50
Eccleston got booked, jovanovic hit the post and kelly's in for a long night

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15 Dec 2010 20:05:50
Glad to see jovanovic, babel, eccelstone, wilson, kelly, aurelio been given a chance for once. Not happy to see poulsen playing, skrtel as captain (or even being on the pitch) or pacheco not playing. Cole needs to prove himself, and hopefully get kuyt out the first team. Aurelio needs to play well to get that donkey out of left back, and jovanovic also needs to show his worth to roy.

My match prediction:
Liverpool 4 - 1 Utrecht
Jovanovic Wolfswinkel
Babel X2
Cole

COMON U REDS!

E.H LFC

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15 Dec 2010 19:56:53
Time and time again I see people defending Hodgson's away record and overall record at Liverpool on the basis that he was left with a bad team, instead of choosing to blame his tactics.

We haven't got the best team, but a 21% away win record at both Fulham and Liverpool speaks for itself doesn't it?

Look at Blackpool, 14 points away from home compared to our 5. Now surely none of the Hodgson lovers would tell me that Mr.Holloway has a better team at his disposal than Mr.Hodgson? Without a doubt Hodgson has far better players at his disposal. Now looking at that, would a Hodgson lover tell me why Holloway's team has got nearly treble the points away from home than us? Simple - tactics. Hodgson's defensive tactics don't work and it's as simple as that. (Blackpool have played more away games than us and all to). And consider they were odds on favourites to go down.

Don't see how anyone could argue with that!

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15 Dec 2010 19:56:39
F*ck SKRTEL'S CAPTAIN

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15 Dec 2010 19:52:18
Skrtel watch.

Today's competition is:-

1: How many needless freekicks will Martin concede?.

2: How many headers will Martin fail to win?.

Bearing in mind the poor quality of opposition were up against, our statisticians here at Crapta index are still expecting a dismal below par performance from our centre half.

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15 Dec 2010 19:49:09
Shocking team we have out tonight. Woy hasn't got a clue. At home in europe and puts out a team like that. Tonight was a night to be playing a strong side containing Torres. The guy needs match fitness, needs to get his confidence up infront of his home crowd. Cant for the life of me see why Woy is playing Poulsen and leaving the likes of pacheco on the bench. And Skrtel captain. Must be the worst player in our history to wear the arm band. . Hope im proved wrong, put we really could struggle tonight. kk
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If Hodgson had played Torres, and Torres had got injured you'd be moaning about how Hodgson played him in a meaningless game and cost us.

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15 Dec 2010 19:47:29
Ed i'm watching the cska game and they were awful. Honda didn't play but Necid and Dzagoev did and they're really poor. {ed's note - not recommending we sign either then?}

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15 Dec 2010 19:32:12
Shocking team we have out tonight. Woy hasn't got a clue. At home in europe and puts out a team like that. Tonight was a night to be playing a strong side containing Torres. The guy needs match fitness, needs to get his confidence up infront of his home crowd. Cant for the life of me see why Woy is playing Poulsen and leaving the likes of pacheco on the bench. And Skrtel captain. Must be the worst player in our history to wear the arm band. . Hope im proved wrong, put we really could struggle tonight. kk

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15 Dec 2010 19:26:05
Sorry, but I thought there was only a 1 month clause in Hodgson's contract from the takeover.

Actually, that was probably another rumour on this site.

In fact is there any truth in Hodgson having a clause whereby they can sack him when the new owners took over. Excuse my naivety but it would be a FOOL who would accept such a contract.
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Hodgson knew that there was a very likely chance of us having new owners within months of him taking the job, and he knew what the score was - new owners maybe wanting their own manager in charge.

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15 Dec 2010 19:24:25
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Think hodgson needs to leave for his own good, he looks like he's aged 10 years since he's been manager.

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15 Dec 2010 19:19:45
If we can get Bentley for 5 million, that's a good deal I think.

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15 Dec 2010 19:13:10
I hope Jonjo Shelvey gets more freedom tonight to get forward and show us what he can do. I hated it when he was sat in front of the back four against S.Bucharest. Whn you have a back four you don't need two players sitting in front of them, one is sufficient if you have players tracking back.

I would even go as far as saying you don't need a specialist in that area most of the time. A Sergio Busquets or Xabi Alonso is sufficient.

And I've gone off topic abit. . . . . . . . . . . . .

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15 Dec 2010 19:11:01
Liverpool Rumours
Jones, Kelly, Aurelio, Skrtel, Wilson, Poulsen, Shelvey, Jovanovic, Cole, Babel, Eccleston.

Subs: Hansen, Johnson, Kyrgiakos, Pacheco, Torres, Kuyt, Meireles.

team tonight

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15 Dec 2010 19:08:04
Skrtel's captain?- -Come on Roy for Godssake! !

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15 Dec 2010 18:59:00
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How about vagna from the xfactor to make the perfect partnership with ken!

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15 Dec 2010 18:57:25
The team is in .

. . . . . . . . . . . . Jones. . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . Kelly. . Skrtel. . Wilson. .Aurelio. . .

Cole. . . Poulsen. . . Shelvey. . Eccleston

. . . . . . . . .Babel. . .Jovanovic. . . . . . .

Subs: Hansen, Johnson, Kyrgiakos, Pacheco, Torres, Kuyt, Meireles.

I would like to see Jovanovic played as a striker .

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15 Dec 2010 18:57:13
Liverpool Rumours
Sorry, but I thought there was only a 1 month clause in Hodgson's contract from the takeover.

Actually, that was probably another rumour on this site.

In fact is there any truth in Hodgson having a clause whereby they can sack him when the new owners took over. Excuse my naivety but it would be a FOOL who would accept such a contract.

To the postees who stated that October comes before September and the are you on drugs reply - made me chuckle quite a bit!

ED(s) - top site mate(s). Merry X-mas and s***

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15 Dec 2010 18:51:56
Hi all, go on youtube and put in hitler and roy hodgson its funny as hell, it say hitler finds out roy hodgson is still manager,

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15 Dec 2010 18:48:55
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Why are people saying torres is off to barca? they have no money and are in load of debt! so stop saying it please! he will probs go to italy or somewhere

Didn't they just get a new sponsor ship deal worth £125 million over 5 years? Also they will sell ibrahimovic in one of the transfer windows. Not saying I won't it to happen but it may be within thier recourses to do so

yeah but barca are still gunna be in debt sell Ibrahimovic won't make nothing hes the most over rated striker in football. i hope torres doesn't leave. but with roy thier hes gunna end up going soon

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15 Dec 2010 18:46:09
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Not a rumour but if torres goes , yes it's disappointing but this is liverpool , good players will always come, be found it been like for years keegan , daglish , rush , owen , fowler , torres , redknapp, molby alonso , maschereno , gerrard , the list endless , yes were guttted at the time but liverpool fc move on

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15 Dec 2010 18:43:10
Liverpool Rumours
Regarding

N THE PIQUE STORY
HE WAS IN DEPARTURES
I DO WORK AT THE AIRPORT, IN THE DEPARTURE LOUNGE AND HE WAS LOOKING AROUND IN THE SHOP I WORK

I HAVENT GOT ANY REASON TO MAKE THE STORY UP AND I AM SURE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO GOT PHOTOS WITH HIM WILL CONFIRM THIS I AM JUST WONDERING WHY HE WAS THERE.
ANY IDEAS

Probly been to man u arse game,

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15 Dec 2010 18:42:51
Hi ed, im going to start a conspirency theory tonight, i know it may sound stupid but do you think hodgson is deliberately going to play el nino in the hope he gets injured, firstly i don't think it is anything to do with match fitness, secondly he is not playing with his heart but don't think roy has the bottle to drop him for ngog and babel, it would save roys face if he says i can't play torres in league games now hes injured and would make a good excuse for him if we lose the next few games by saying well we did have torres out injured, just a thought, but having said that it just announced on talksport he is not in the starting lineup and won't play him so he won't be cuptied when they sell him in january?

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Torres played the away fixture against utrecht so he is cup tied already

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15 Dec 2010 18:38:55
Liverpool Rumours
The rumours linking Fanni to our club are now put to bed as he's agreed a transfer to Marsielle from Rennes.
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The information i read was rather a proposed move to Marseille looks likely to fall through.

miccmak

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15 Dec 2010 18:35:39
Scallywag.

You will find the legitimate link to Linda-Pizzuti twitter account on John W Henry twitter page , her last post was a reference to LFC production team working on the live telephone-in .

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15 Dec 2010 18:32:05
Liverpool Rumours
15 Dec 2010 17:26:08
Liverpool Rumours
David bentley 4-5 million? i bet everyone will disagree but i would take that. Wouldn't put a smile on my face but i would certainly take it.

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Funny, I was just going to say the same thing! I watched him dominate a match last season. he didn't play again but that's because Redknapp doesn't seem to like him, much like Darren Bent and look how well he's doing.

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15 Dec 2010 18:30:39
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Meant bable not ngog

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15 Dec 2010 18:27:59
Liverpool Rumours
Just looked on skysports app and clicked on CSKA Moscow to see if honda was playing. . .he's not in thd starting line up or on the bench and they have only named four subs. . Interesting. Any thoughts?


TR24

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15 Dec 2010 18:27:33
Liverpool Rumours
Tonights lineup: Jones, Kelly, Skrtel, Wilson, Aurelio, Cole, Poulsen, Shelvey, Jovanovic, Eccleston, Ngog


Mick

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15 Dec 2010 18:26:38
Liverpool Rumours
In response to :

I HAVENT GOT ANY REASON TO MAKE THE STORY UP AND I AM SURE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO GOT PHOTOS WITH HIM WILL CONFIRM THIS I AM JUST WONDERING WHY HE WAS THERE.
ANY IDEAS

Pique was over here for a short break, caught up with Torres and Torres Jr. and also attended the Shakira concert at the Echo Arena . . I only know this as I also went to the gig . . Sorry boys but the Mrs. has to win sometimes !

But what am I saying, he probably watched us against Newcastle the other night and decided to get the next flight over so he could join a more attractive team than Barca :)

ElRoja

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15 Dec 2010 18:21:31
Hi ed, im going to start a conspirency theory tonight, i know it may sound stupid but do you think hodgson is deliberately going to play el nino in the hope he gets injured, firstly i don't think it is anything to do with match fitness, secondly he is not playing with his heart but don't think roy has the bottle to drop him for ngog and babel, it would save roys face if he says i can't play torres in league games now hes injured and would make a good excuse for him if we lose the next few games by saying well we did have torres out injured, just a thought, but having said that it just announced on talksport he is not in the starting lineup and won't play him so he won't be cuptied when they sell him in january?

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15 Dec 2010 18:21:23
Liverpool Rumours
Pienaar, Stocker, Bentley? All around the same price (4m/ 5m), but who wud u all prefer?
I'd prefer stocker, he's fast, skillful and only 21! Bentley is nothing much, and Pienaar dosnt have alot of pace tbh.

Ed, anyone?

E.H LFC
{Editor's note - Pienaar}

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15 Dec 2010 18:21:13
Liverpool Rumours
Who is Tom King on the sightings page?

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15 Dec 2010 18:19:40
15 Dec 2010 18:13:38
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15 Dec 2010 17:22:43
Michael Ngoo - The Black Peter Crouch!
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I reckon Ngoo has got a really good chance of making it. Along with Amoo, Suso, Ayala and others I think the future is bright.

yep agree, add to that Flanagan, Robinson, Pacheco, Mavinga, Wisdom, Coady, Kelly aand not forgetting the best 16 year old in the country -Raheem Sterling.

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15 Dec 2010 18:14:56
Liverpool Rumours
One thing that i find truly baffling(and this isn't necessarily a dig at Roy). . is that apparently our squad isn't good enough, yet most of the squad including some of the youngsters would walk straight into the Stoke, Blackpool, Birmingham, Newcastle teams yet we can't seem to beat any of these away from home. Ok, Rafa didn't leave a very good squad, by whose standards tho'?. . The top fours yes. . .by a mid table standard, it's far and away better than that!. So before I hear any more on why we can't win away. . . The following appears to be the case, THE PLAYERS DON'T WANT TO PLAY FOR ROY!. . . .so, the point is if roy wants to keep his job, i suggest he either puts the kids in when the senior players aren't performing, or he goes and looks for another job, he can't motivate whats there so he should either go OR change the personnel around very quickly. He said in his press conference that he can't do a better job with the players we have. Really? four words IAN HOLLOWAY AND ROBERTO DIMATTEO. . . . . inferior players to ours NESV and roy, i think you'll find, but they seem to be picking up more points away from home, why is that i wonder?.

Ed, any views on this, mate?
{Editor's note - Roy needs to be way more aggresive in his team selections imo}

Do you not think Ed, that if Kuyt isn't performing, we should use Amoo, if Skrtel isn't performing we should use Wilson, etc, etc, etc.?
{Editor's note - Deffinatly. We need to use more of our youths during games}

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15 Dec 2010 18:13:38
Liverpool Rumours
15 Dec 2010 17:22:43
Michael Ngoo - The Black Peter Crouch!
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I reckon Ngoo has got a really good chance of making it. Along with Amoo, Suso, Ayala and others I think the future is bright.

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15 Dec 2010 18:04:51
Liverpool Rumours
Caughtoffside have got us signing bentley & cole both west ham god no, what have they ever done not good enough for us (ed what you think)
{Editor's note - That would be awful}

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15 Dec 2010 18:04:50
Does anyone know if Linda Pizzuti's facebook page is real?! 'she' or whoever rarely writes on it but today they wrote 'Any player in the world, who would it be?' Its most probably some loser pretending to be her, but couldnt help wondering.

Scallywag.

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15 Dec 2010 18:01:00
Am not saying a word. not one little word. .i am just hoping and praying

chris 1
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It did take you 16 words to say you weren't saying 1? Hipocrite ;o)

MUSHROOM
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c'mon give some credit at least i am not ranting. and i was sensible. i booked tomorrow as leave just in case i was ill (hic)

chris 1

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15 Dec 2010 17:58:13
This is theturdz speaking
just heard that massive fat cabbagehead and fergies number 1 arselick sam im goodenuf to manage real madrid is off to his bolthole AL ALAH in the emirates for a bit of sun and some commentating then hes on the look for another massively paid job managing any club he can how the f* * does this useless c* * get away with it hes a f* *ing joke god help the next club that employs him his style of footie if you can call it that is what is ruining the game absolute s* *e and he get away and paid millions for it the f* *ing useless t* *
ED THIS MIST BE PRINTED AS FREEDOM OF SPEECH AS MY OTHER RANT AGAINST FAT SAM WASNT.
AND DONT BE AFRAID TO PRINT IT BECAUSE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING TO WIKILEAKS FOUNDER JULIEN ASSANGE WHOME THETURDZ FULLY SUPPORTS IN HIS FIGHT AGAINST CENSORSHIP
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I don't think the eds would have a problem printing this rubbish. i most certainly would for the following reasons.
You appear to be nothing more than a foul mouthed semi literate fool who hasnt got a clue what he is talking about. Its not being printed you want to worry about but that people will just completly ignore your odious rants.

So please. give us all a break and take your foul mouth somewhere else

chris 1

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15 Dec 2010 17:58:10
Liverpool Rumours
Is that Italian chap your thinking off Osvaldo ed. He's had a bright start to the season for Espanyol? kk

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15 Dec 2010 17:53:37
15 Dec 2010 16:33:00
Liverpool Rumours
Just been reading Roy's latest mumblings to the press. "it may take years for Liverpool to regain their place among the European Elite"

"Thanks Roy, for your belief in the team, your ambition and your insight. . NOT

Two years ago we were amongst them, true Rafa and H & G did us some damage, but your making things worse. . "

The next time someone comes anywhere near him with a microphone or a reporters pad he should keep his trap shut! The bumbling old git never says the right things. Does he do these interviews when its Sammy's turn for the brain cell?

With a decent management team, and some player changes, we could be back up there! This is Liverpool afterall, one of the biggest clubs in the world despite all the problems of the past few years and his intent on dragging us further down!

I want a manager who is going to demand and command the respect of the players, show some ambition and belief, and give the fans some hope, and belief that things can get better! not this fool!

El Diablo!
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Liverpool were the top seeded team in the Champions League in 2007, just 3 years ago. We have had a poor 16 months, but the negativity from Hodgson is appalling. The negativity should have gone the day John Henry walked into Anfield. POSITIVE, POSITIVE, POSITIVE. SMILE, SMILE, SMILE. That is all I ask. Thank you.

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15 Dec 2010 17:53:30
Just a quick note on players i wouldn't mind seeing pulling on the famous red jersey in either january or the summer :
Luiz Adriano-Shaktar Donestk-quick, powerful, an eye for goal and young only 23.
Keisuke Honda- think most readers on here will know about him.
Griezmann-Real Sociadad-Good vision, eye for goal exciting youngster.
Kieran Gibbs-Gooners-good left back, young and english, already a premier league player.
Lakuku-Anderlecht-seen him a couple of times and he looks to be a real handfull and capable of getting goals even though he is very young.

these are just my thoughts but they are all young, all got great potential to go a long way in the game and all probably never going to sign for us! !

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15 Dec 2010 17:51:45
Liverpool Rumours
One thing that i find truly baffling(and this isn't necessarily a dig at Roy). . is that apparently our squad isn't good enough, yet most of the squad including some of the youngsters would walk straight into the Stoke, Blackpool, Birmingham, Newcastle teams yet we can't seem to beat any of these away from home. Ok, Rafa didn't leave a very good squad, by whose standards tho'?. . The top fours yes. . .by a mid table standard, it's far and away better than that!. So before I hear any more on why we can't win away. . . The following appears to be the case, THE PLAYERS DON'T WANT TO PLAY FOR ROY!. . . .so, the point is if roy wants to keep his job, i suggest he either puts the kids in when the senior players aren't performing, or he goes and looks for another job, he can't motivate whats there so he should either go OR change the personnel around very quickly. He said in his press conference that he can't do a better job with the players we have. Really? four words IAN HOLLOWAY AND ROBERTO DIMATTEO. . . . . inferior players to ours NESV and roy, i think you'll find, but they seem to be picking up more points away from home, why is that i wonder?.

Ed, any views on this, mate?
{Editor's note - Roy needs to be way more aggresive in his team selections imo}

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15 Dec 2010 17:48:49
Liverpool Rumours
15 Dec 2010 17:06:31
I remember Prince Faisal Bin Fahd (prince of Saudi Arabia I think) was being linked with a take-over of Liverpool. He came to Anfield for the Wolves game, and planned to use his F6 sports investment group to fund the club (apparantly they were so rich, Man City owner's wealth was like pocket money to them).

Well lucky he didn't take over, he's dead now.
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I think the Saudi Prince mentioned during the takeover process was Prince Alwaleed bin Talal al Saud (check 2010 rich lists). But I am happy so far with NESV/ Fenway.

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15 Dec 2010 17:45:26
Liverpool Rumours
Lucas is scrap yous havnt a clue
he wudn even lace jack wilshires boots

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15 Dec 2010 17:43:57
Liverpool Rumours
NI RED {ed's note - Mata, Piatti, Pablo Hernandez and the Italian guy, who also plays in Spain, whose name I forget but he plays on the left despite being right footed. I can't even think what team he plays for yet I have seen them play almost every weekend of the season! Hopefully someone can help me out and remind me of his name?}Perrotti?

TR24

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15 Dec 2010 17:40:03
If NESV sacked Roy Hodgsonit would send out a message that such poor reslults and performance will not be tolerated at LFC .

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15 Dec 2010 17:36:35
Liverpool Rumours
Don't get me wrong I rate him, but even if we could get Tevez, I wouldn't want him. So much effin drama with him. Would he change us in a nano second? YES. but I don't like the way he and many of the current divas are treating their contracts. They are on huge money in the current economic climate and I don't see any of them taking paycuts or the like. He did the 2nd worst move in going to Citeh from Scum and only a move here would be considered worse. Give me the jimmy case's and ray kennedy's and John Warks of the world who wanted to wear the Liverbird on their chest for a sense of acomplishment of their legacy. not that they needed to be guaranteed a 1st team place but because it was the place to be and the pride to play on front of the best fans in the world

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15 Dec 2010 17:32:23
Liverpool Rumours
Anyone else think we should just throw suso into the team?

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15 Dec 2010 17:29:39
It looks like NESV doesn't want to win the premier league with in the next 10 years targeting players like cole and bentley. buying average players is moving 10 years back, even more. liverpool is too big to buy Westham's and Spur's rejects.
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Last time I checked, NESV didn't buy anyone. And NESV aren't targeting anyone, they aren't the ones targeting the players.

And I see when it comes to players like Bentley you believe the lazy journalists then. Shame on you.

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15 Dec 2010 17:10:47
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To Red JC who posted this crap
As far as i've always known September comes before October! So October 16th to January 16th is 3 months. Hodgeson's had enough time he's clueless, bring in Rijkaard but definately NOT Allardice or O'neill.

You don't follow football much do you, I wouldn't take O'Neill or Allderdyce but in no way would i want Rijkaard, the man is clueless another Souness infact, look what he don't to Galatasery,

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15 Dec 2010 17:09:45
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The time is now! !


It looks like NESV doesn't want to win the premier league with in the next 10 years targeting players like cole and bentley. buying average players is moving 10 years back, even more. liverpool is too big to buy Westham's and Spur's rejects.

I am beginning to wonder if it is deja vu all over again. When benitez arrived we said we lucked depth in our squad and bought full of squad players ever season. but every season the clubs at the top added another quality players and we always looked like a team that could mount a serious challenge with 2 or 3 extra quality players. when Houdgson came we got rid of good squad players like riera, benayou, Aquillani, insua and replaced them with poulsen, jovanovic, konchesky and cole. All arent any good so far. Well, the holes created in the midfield with mascherano and alonso leaving are still hurting the team.

I thought when the owners came it will at least be investing 40-50 mil initially and add one quality players each season from our profits. but they are still talking about small rebuilding. the small rebuilding to get to the squad's of city, spurs, Manu, Arsenal and chelsea will take years and by the time we will get there they will be way ahead of us, on another level.
Today i heard a rumour city offered 35 mil euros for suarez and last time i checked the rumours we offered 15 mil euros. The numbers clearly clarify where we are when it come to getting the right players. Honda is also in our ranges. we aren't making a move quickly, they will come and get him soon.

The likes of Arsenal and Manchester united made a good brand in football that attracts players. Arsenal have their flowing football and Manchester's history isn't so much just a history. they are still living it, they still have the manger and some of the players that became legends. There are many players who prefer to join these two clubs than other giant clubs in Europe. Given the current condition we are in, we do not have the luxury to come out and say players still want to come here. we have a very unpopular manager, no hope of playing in the champions league, and negative and football brand. At least during Benitez's regime we were known to attract Spanish players and we were always the master minds of European football. It is time we should know that we need to be more aggressive in the transfer market. If we are really in desperate need of a certain player, we have to be willing to pay a little extra than he is worth. If we do not get the right quality players now and get in the champions league right the way, with the new rules coming soon, we will not be able to afford any players. The time is now to act.

I say bring in a popular, proven, world class manger and take a risk on proven 2 or 3 quality players in the transfer market. Quality i mean from the likes of Llorente, Suarez, Tevez, Honda, Adam Johnson, Dzeko, Hulk, Mata etc. Then the rest of the positions can be perfected gradually with intelligent buys on young players or free transferes . It is time to act! !

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15 Dec 2010 17:06:31
I remember Prince Faisal Bin Fahd (prince of Saudi Arabia I think) was being linked with a take-over of Liverpool. He came to Anfield for the Wolves game, and planned to use his F6 sports investment group to fund the club (apparantly they were so rich, Man City owner's wealth was like pocket money to them).

Well lucky he didn't take over, he's dead now.

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15 Dec 2010 17:05:27
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"Some days i think i should of been a jounalist. At least i would have knowledge amd would write realistic rumours. I think anyone could be one!"

Nah, give it up, mate. .to be a journo you have to know that it's incorrect to write "should of. ." :)

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15 Dec 2010 17:00:26
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Ed what do you see happening with joe cole wen we get someone new 4 wings ive heard alot of people wanting young but i can't see him coming as he would rather go london again so spurs likely do you think that may then make lennon available as no way bale is goin any where keep up the good work lads ynwa

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15 Dec 2010 16:52:10
Liverpool Rumours
ON THE PIQUE STORY
HE WAS IN DEPARTURES
I DO WORK AT THE AIRPORT, IN THE DEPARTURE LOUNGE AND HE WAS LOOKING AROUND IN THE SHOP I WORK

I HAVENT GOT ANY REASON TO MAKE THE STORY UP AND I AM SURE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO GOT PHOTOS WITH HIM WILL CONFIRM THIS I AM JUST WONDERING WHY HE WAS THERE.
ANY IDEAS

could you post one of these pictures in the sighting section.

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15 Dec 2010 16:51:52
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The Metro says that Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs are in for Tevez and that he could stay in England possibly if one of the clubs come in for him. Apparantly he was very happy in London when at West Ham, and his family liked London.

And in regards to Liverpool, Mascherano told him it was great and the atmosphere and fans were excellent.

We won't get him though.
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why would we want him though?

every other season he wants to leava and we can not afford £286k week tax free dahh
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Well no-one will pay his wages (before tax like £400k). So he'll have to take a pay cut before he wants to join anyone.

If he was willing to settle and commit to us then I'd take him.

But like I said, we won't get him.

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15 Dec 2010 16:35:54
See we are being linked with bentley again i don't rate him to unpredictable for me what you think ed? {ed's note - mid-table player at best.}

roys sort of player then

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15 Dec 2010 16:33:00
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Just been reading Roy's latest mumblings to the press. "it may take years for Liverpool to regain their place among the European Elite"

"Thanks Roy, for your belief in the team, your ambition and your insight. . NOT

Two years ago we were amongst them, true Rafa and H & G did us some damage, but your making things worse. . "

The next time someone comes anywhere near him with a microphone or a reporters pad he should keep his trap shut! The bumbling old git never says the right things. Does he do these interviews when its Sammy's turn for the brain cell?

With a decent management team, and some player changes, we could be back up there! This is Liverpool afterall, one of the biggest clubs in the world despite all the problems of the past few years and his intent on dragging us further down!

I want a manager who is going to demand and command the respect of the players, show some ambition and belief, and give the fans some hope, and belief that things can get better! not this fool!

El Diablo!

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15 Dec 2010 16:29:41
Center mids. I keep hearing we have plenty. Ok, here's my view:

Gerrard - best we've ever had. Currently injured (which has happened throughout his career)

Meireles - good player no doubt. Still finding his feet.

Lucas - playing the best football of his life but in my opinion still not good enough in a 2 man partnership for the middle of the park. He isn't Alonso Gerrard or Masch quality. That's the bare truth. How many goals? Not a lot. How physical? Weak physically. Passing? Not boss but decent. Average in most departments.

Poulson - should never have been bought.

Spearing - what this lad is doing there I don't know. Needs to move on for his own career. Seems reluctant to do so.

Aquliani - not physical enough for the Prem. Meireles and him offer no balance.

Yes I agree wide players and a striker are needed first but this is still an area that can be improved.

Spriggo

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15 Dec 2010 16:27:23
Bable pacheco up top, eccleston on the left with meirelles and shelvy in the center wilson at the back with whoever aurelio left back kelly right johnson right wing i would be happy with that for tonights game. stick that team out and let them just go all out for it 3, 4, 5, goals and a clean sheet happy days

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15 Dec 2010 16:25:36
My team for tonight would be - Reina, Kelly, Soto, Wilson, Aurelio, Kuyt, Lucas, Shelvey, Jova, Torres and Pacheco!

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15 Dec 2010 16:11:20
See we are being linked with bentley again i don't rate him to unpredictable for me what you think ed? {ed's note - mid-table player at best.}

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15 Dec 2010 16:11:09
Roy was asked about his first 6 months at LFC and said he expected us to be in the top 4 and to win some trophies. Why did he not say we want to win the league? If you start off only wanting top 4 at best that is what you will get. Why don't he aim for the top and see where we end up. He does my head in!
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Because he and the players simply knew that we had no chance of winning the title. Saying we're going for the title just raises expectation and puts the players under pressure. We have to be realistic, not deluded.

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Expectations should be high. We are LFC with a history nearly all clubs in the world would want. In the last 5 years we have done superb in Europe and have been getting closer in the league ( last year not included). Old owners were holding us back which has now been sorted. We should be aiming for the top of everything. That includes stadium, manager, players and trophies. What will happen next, an open top parade round Liverpool for finishing 4th. . . Being realistic is fine for a mid table team, not for us.
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15 Dec 2010 16:04:14
Reina

kelly soto wilson aurelio


shelvey meireles spearing amoo torres pachecothats what i think my line-up wud be tonite

what dya think ed? {ed's note - I would like to see Amoo play as well, I was just trying to get a nice balance between youth and experience when I picked mine. I would definitely like to see Mavinga given a run at left back though, it is such a weak position for us, would be nice to find out if he can be the answer.}

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15 Dec 2010 16:02:45
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15 Dec 2010 15:48:44
Liverpool Rumours
I wish ppl wud stop postin on here about potential centre midfielders we've got plenty

gerrard- well we all kno about him

miereles- hes class an is startin to blend into the team nicely

lucas- hes playin the best football ov his life an in my opinion we look a better team wiv him in it

shelvey- young excitin prospect

spearing- always puts a graft in an rarely disappoints

we need quality wingers

what do ya reckon ed? {ed's note - and you didn't even include the mighty Poulsen!}


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Indeed mate , where is your head? Poulsen is our number one Talented player. . hes old but he's a hero to me! :(

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15 Dec 2010 16:01:32
TO ED . if lfc lose tonight at utrecht would hodgson get sacked. or lose tonight and lose to fulham surly he must go YNWA77 {ed's note - you would expect he must be hanging on by his fingertips right now
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I can't see us losing tonight or against Fulham but then we go away again and the problems continue.
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Blackpool fans will get another Xmas pressie when we turn up on Boxing Day unless Roy changes his tactics, which I very much doubt

Is it too late to write a letter to Father Christmas asking for a new manager this year?

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How sad has it become that Blackpool will be looking forward to our visit. They know how we will play and will probably be disapointed with a draw. Lets hope Santa is a Liverpool fan !
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15 Dec 2010 16:00:08
I wish ppl wud stop postin on here about potential centre midfielders we've got plenty

gerrard- well we all kno about him

miereles- hes class an is startin to blend into the team nicely

lucas- hes playin the best football ov his life an in my opinion we look a better team wiv him in it

shelvey- young excitin prospect

spearing- always puts a graft in an rarely disappoints

we need quality wingers
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I agree that wingers is what we need. But I'd like a striker in there also.

However, I think in the Summer window we need to add another central midfielder in there. A Xabi Alonso type would be perfect in my eyes, but a creative player is what I'd like (Javi Martinez and Banega would be my first choices).

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15 Dec 2010 15:53:34
This is theturdz speaking
just heard that massive fat cabbagehead and fergies number 1 arselick sam im goodenuf to manage real madrid is off to his bolthole AL ALAH in the emirates for a bit of sun and some commentating then hes on the look for another massively paid job managing any club he can how the f*** does this useless c*** get away with it hes a f***ing joke god help the next club that employs him his style of footie if you can call it that is what is ruining the game absolute s***e and he get away and paid millions for it the f***ing useless t***
ED THIS MIST BE PRINTED AS FREEDOM OF SPEECH AS MY OTHER RANT AGAINST FAT SAM WASNT.
AND DONT BE AFRAID TO PRINT IT BECAUSE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING TO WIKILEAKS FOUNDER JULIEN ASSANGE WHOME THETURDZ FULLY SUPPORTS IN HIS FIGHT AGAINST CENSORSHIP

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15 Dec 2010 15:53:22
I wish ppl wud stop postin on here about potential centre midfielders we've got plenty

gerrard- well we all kno about him

miereles- hes class an is startin to blend into the team nicely

lucas- hes playin the best football ov his life an in my opinion we look a better team wiv him in it

shelvey- young excitin prospect

spearing- always puts a graft in an rarely disappoints

we need quality wingers

what do ya reckon ed? {ed's note - and you didn't even include the mighty Poulsen!}ha ha well hes hardly a footballer never mind a centre mid, we've got ppl there who could run the midfield poulson couldnt run a bath

do you agree with my points ed? {ed's note - yes mate I fully agree, the only reason to sign a central mid would be if an absolutely world class one became available ie Xabi or Xavi. Other than that there are other priorities for the team - especially getting in some width.}

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15 Dec 2010 15:50:23
Liverpool Rumours
Ed what wud ur line-up be tonite mate? {ed's note - Reina, Kelly, Skrtel/Kyrgiakos, Wilson, Mavinga (Pepe and Skrtel/Kyrgiakos to add experience and talk the younger lads through the game), Johnson on the right of midfield, Lucas/Meireles, Shelvey, Aurelio (Johnson and Aurelio on the wings to help out the young fullbacks), Pacheco and Torres up front. What about you?}

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15 Dec 2010 15:49:56
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Ed do you think kenny wud make a good CEO? {ed's note - he is a very intelligent man who loves the club, but I would rather see him being more involved with the football side of things than the business side.}

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15 Dec 2010 15:48:44
Liverpool Rumours
I wish ppl wud stop postin on here about potential centre midfielders we've got plenty

gerrard- well we all kno about him

miereles- hes class an is startin to blend into the team nicely

lucas- hes playin the best football ov his life an in my opinion we look a better team wiv him in it

shelvey- young excitin prospect

spearing- always puts a graft in an rarely disappoints

we need quality wingers

what do ya reckon ed ? {ed's note - and you didn't even include the mighty Poulsen!}

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15 Dec 2010 15:40:10
Im glad Babel is playing tonight, A player with very much the same mentality as Lucas but never got the games, but gets just as much stick. I hope Roy can do to Babel the same as he did to lucas. David N'gog is also coming on quite nicely. Lots of people are suggesting big name strikers to come to liverpool. But what happens to the ones we already have.

The ones we have? ? please, do me a favour, torres is the only good striker we have apart from kuyt but rafas lovechild woy thinks he makes a better winger, personally i think out wide hes the weak link in team and maybe the worst winger in lfc history.
babel i agree needs a good run in the team and i belive he can cut the mustard, Ngog is simple not ready,
we must have a foundation of solid proven goalscorers at the highest level then bring the young players through gradualy you can't keep playing ngog up front on his own when torres isn't fit or simple cannot be arsed to turn up which by the way seems to be every other week, sitting back and being patient hoping someone is going to come good is not the way forward, youth players need to break into the team and not get played because we just don't have anybody else and then expect them to keep their place,
we need two quality strikers and two wingers that's all.

we are

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15 Dec 2010 15:32:17
15 Dec 2010 13:41:46
15 Dec 2010 12:28:31
TO ED . if lfc lose tonight at utrecht would hodgson get sacked. or lose tonight and lose to fulham surly he must go YNWA77 {ed's note - you would expect he must be hanging on by his fingertips right now
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Blackpool fans will get another Xmas pressie when we turn up on Boxing Day unless Roy changes his tactics, which I very much doubt

Is it too late to write a letter to Father Christmas asking for a new manager this year?

RedDan

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15 Dec 2010 15:28:50
I am not saying a word. not one little word. .i am just hoping and praying

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It did take you 16 words to say you weren't saying 1? Hipocrite ;o)

MUSHROOM

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15 Dec 2010 15:25:23
You feeling better now, have you actually finished upchucking?

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Not too bad now cheers. Maybe bad again tomorrow as we are playing tonight. Will be for very different reasons though *hic*.

MUSHROOM

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15 Dec 2010 15:02:40
Hodgson suggests 11th is "right up there"
Posted on December 15th, 2010 by Jim Boardman

With Liverpool playing Utrecht at home tonight in the Europa League Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson had to sit in front of the press and answer questions. The press conference came the day after the new owners had done their live phone-in, with many callers asking why on earth Roy was still in charge at Anfield.

Form for last six games, as at Dec 13 2010 (click to enlarge)The phone-in was mentioned by a reporter: "The club's owners were on TV last night saying recent results were unacceptable as they put it." Roy interrupted: "No, they didn't say that, 'recent results', no."

The reporter clarified: "Well, the words 'results unacceptable'."

Again, Roy interrupted: "Aah."

It seemed Roy had been expecting this and he was ready with his answer: "There's a bit of a difference, " he said, "between 'recent results' because I think the only team with better results than us over the last five or six games is The Arsenal, maybe Manchester United, so I hope you take the last five or six games, we're right up there in terms of our results."

This was an interesting claim from Roy, but also one that was very easy to get checked out because the Premier League's own website includes a recent form table based on results from the last six games. So was Roy correct, was it just "The Arsenal" and "maybe Manchester United" above Liverpool on recent form?

Sadly not.

Liverpool are in fact eleventh in that table.

Ahead of Liverpool are the two Manchester sides, Spurs, Arsenal, Bolton, Stoke, Blackpool, Sunderland, Blackburn and West Brom. LOL SO ROY THINKS 11 IS GOOD LOL , HE SERIOUSLY HAS TO GO

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15 Dec 2010 14:53:54
Does anyone else think that Roys ramblings recently have more than a smack of desperation about them? He seems to have accepted that he is on borrowed time with such statements as " Whoever takes my place will be in a similar job with similar players" but its his subtle and not so subtle digs at supporters as well as the veiled digs at the new owners which confuse me the most and give me the biggest indication that his end is nearing. His main preoccupation at the minute seems to be reminding potential employers that he is still confident in his own abilities whilst pointing out that no one could have done a better job in his circumstances. Missing the biggest point of all that we could all deal with the current situation a little better if we were actually playing attractive, attacking football and our current players weren't being undermined and held back. Would like to know what you all think about this including the eds. It might just be me reading too much into things but i hope not. I need him to leave soon its affecting my work. {ed's note - he was exactly the same at Blackburn just before they sacked him.}

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His siege mentality kicked in a while ago:
Dig at the away fans at Stoke for chanting KD's name. Reminding us via his mates in the press that Liverpool don't sack managers.

But you what Roy, new owners means new ideas and I think you can be the exception to the rule this time around.

And when you eventually go, you can go to your mates in the press and tell them that you weren't given enough time, and that certain players undermined you, and that you are one of the most respected coaches throughout Europe, if not the world.

But the fact of the matter is, you blew it.

25_05_05

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15 Dec 2010 14:51:21
Roy was asked about his first 6 months at LFC and said he expected us to be in the top 4 and to win some trophies. Why did he not say we want to win the league?? If you start off only wanting top 4 at best that is what you will get. Why don't he aim for the top and see where we end up. He does my head in!
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Because he and the players simply knew that we had no chance of winning the title. Saying we're going for the title just raises expectation and puts the players under pressure. We have to be realistic, not deluded.

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15 Dec 2010 14:43:55
Liverpool Rumours
"Lucas, who has been brilliant this season, "

He has certainly played well the last 5/ 6 weeks, since he last played for Brazil, but he 'aint no Stevie G and never will be.

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15 Dec 2010 14:33:06
To enter fantasy land for a moment. what would be really nice is if avram grant went to blackburn, roy to west ham and fat sam down a deepdeep hole somewhere in middle europe.

bliss. i know won't happen though. but i can't for the life of me believe all these so called commentators coming out and eulogising fat sam. i mean what has he ever won, . there are times when the world seems a very strange place


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15 Dec 2010 14:32:04
If city get suarez, and we get carlton cole, then i will never watch us again until that bufoon hodgson has gone
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Spoken like a true fan! Will you be supporting Citeh then if they start winning things? FICKLE!

MUSHROOM

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15 Dec 2010 14:26:37
I agree mate because it worked so well for Chelski!

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you feeling better now, have you actually finished upchucking?

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15 Dec 2010 14:25:11
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Does anyone else think that Roys ramblings recently have more than a smack of desperation about them? He seems to have accepted that he is on borrowed time with such statements as " Whoever takes my place will be in a similar job with similar players" but its his subtle and not so subtle digs at supporters as well as the veiled digs at the new owners which confuse me the most and give me the biggest indication that his end is nearing. His main preoccupation at the minute seems to be reminding potential employers that he is still confident in his own abilities whilst pointing out that no one could have done a better job in his circumstances. Missing the biggest point of all that we could all deal with the current situation a little better if we were actually playing attractive, attacking football and our current players weren't being undermined and held back. Would like to know what you all think about this including the eds. It might just be me reading too much into things but i hope not. I need him to leave soon its affecting my work. {ed's note - he was exactly the same at Blackburn just before they sacked him.}
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15 Dec 2010 14:10:17
Liverpool Rumours
14 Dec 2010 20:37:29
Liverpool Rumours
Woy talking wubbish again. . . .

Roy Hodgson does not believe any other manager could get more out of the Liverpool team given current resources.

Liverpool's manager, who had "great confidence" in his ability, said "Whoever takes my place will be in a similar job with similar players."

That would remain so "unless there is a major inflow of cash into the club and the team is going to be changed from one moment to the next".

The Reds lie ninth in the Premier League nine points off a top-four spot.

Since Hodgson took over at Anfield on 1 July, following Rafael Benitez's departure in June, Liverpool have had a change of ownership with New England Sports Ventures [NESV] taking over from Tom Hicks and George Gillett.

just sack him, please! !
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When Hodgson took over he was told of the desperate situation caused by H&G. This downcast mentality seems to have become ingrained within the mentality of the whole club including the players. This cancerous mentality needs to be 'cut out' as things have now changed and everything should be so much more positive.

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15 Dec 2010 13:48:36
Roy Hodgson has no say over the kind of players that will be coming into the club. he has no say over the youth. He doesn't coach the players.

His only responsibility at LFC is to PICK the team + choose the style of play (tactic)


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I won't put the whole post in as it did drag a bit. However, with the statement above you obviously need to brush up on what a manager does. And Roy will have the final say on all transfers (if he is still manager).

MUSHROOM

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15 Dec 2010 13:46:13
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15 Dec 2010 12:45:02
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15 Dec 2010 00:25:06
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15 Dec 2010 00:01:00
Liverpool Rumours
I remember reading somewhere that hodgson had a clause in his contract stating that the new owners (NESV) would have a 3 month period after taking over in which they could sack hodgson without having to pay him compensation. The takeover was completed on 16th october so that gives NESV till around 16th of january to sack him. roughly 1 month from today lads so sit tight lads, commoli was brought in for this reason - roy may last till january but it won't be his targets we'll be bringing in. waiting this long has paid off for NESV, firstly, a number of managers have become available since NESV came in and waiting to sack hodgson means NESV have more options today than they would have 2 months ago. Apart from that, they are seen as owners who are patient, willing to give their manager a chance, they havent given the media a chance to jumo on them yet but PR wise, sacking hodgson immediately would have meant a backlash from the english media for not giving him a chance. these guys know exactly what theyre doing and they have no intention of letting hodgson sink our ship. have faith!
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Just something else to fuel the fire, If the above is true about the 3 month clause for Roy, In the interview on LFC now the other night, John W. Henry stated that most of the buisness done in the January transfer window is down towards the end of it.

Since Damien Comolli has come to Anfield, Roy has always stated that he has a deciding vote in players being brought to the club. Perhaps after the 16th of January (back end of the window) Roy will no longer be around to have that deciding factor. Add all of that together with Tom Werner saying that Kenny Dalglish needs a more substansive role at the club. I put 2 and 2 together and get a hell of alot more than 4.

Just to point out that October 16th to January 16th is four months. Count em September November December. So December 16th was the cut off if this clause is correct.

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Holy smokes batman you're right, By that brilliant bit of adding up, Something i didn't do at 1am last night. Hodgson is on his way tomorrow!

On that interview lots of people were calling for his head, But in the 6 short months of Roys tenure its clear to see that we have become a better side on the whole. Just look at Lucas, I don't see half as many people saying they want rid of him now infact they are saying 'what happens to lucas if we bring in 'this' player' almost like they are concerned.

Im glad Babel is playing tonight, A player with very much the same mentality as Lucas but never got the games, but gets just as much stick. I hope Roy can do to Babel the same as he did to lucas. David N'gog is also coming on quite nicely. Lots of people are suggesting big name strikers to come to liverpool. But what happens to the ones we already have. .

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15 Dec 2010 13:45:35
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Does anyone else think that Roys ramblings recently have more than a smack of desperation about them? He seems to have accepted that he is on borrowed time with such statements as " Whoever takes my place will be in a similar job with similar players" but its his subtle and not so subtle digs at supporters as well as the veiled digs at the new owners which confuse me the most and give me the biggest indication that his end is nearing. His main preoccupation at the minute seems to be reminding potential employers that he is still confident in his own abilities whilst pointing out that no one could have done a better job in his circumstances. Missing the biggest point of all that we could all deal with the current situation a little better if we were actually playing attractive, attacking football and our current players weren't being undermined and held back. Would like to know what you all think about this including the eds. It might just be me reading too much into things but i hope not. I need him to leave soon its affecting my work.

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15 Dec 2010 13:44:18
Liverpool Rumours
Does anyone else think that Roys ramblings recently have more than a smack of desperation about them? He seems to have accepted that he is on borrowed time with such statements as " Whoever takes my place will be in a similar job with similar players" but its his subtle and not so subtle digs at supporters as well as the veiled digs at the new owners which confuse me the most and give me the biggest indication that his end is nearing. His main preoccupation at the minute seems to be reminding potential employers that he is still confident in his own abilities whilst pointing out that no one could have done a better job in his circumstances. Missing the biggest point of all that we could all deal with the current situation a little better if we were actually playing attractive, attacking football and our current players weren't being undermined and held back. Would like to know what you all think about this including the eds. It might just be me reading too much into things but i hope not. I need him to leave soon its affecting my work. {ed's note - he was exactly the same at Blackburn just before they sacked him.}

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15 Dec 2010 13:43:17
Lets Bring in Luiz Felipe Scolari and get Brazil + Portugal flair started.

THE RED HALF
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I agree mate because it worked so well for Chelski!

MUSHROOM

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15 Dec 2010 13:41:46
15 Dec 2010 12:28:31
TO ED . if lfc lose tonight at utrecht would hodgson get sacked. or lose tonight and lose to fulham surly he must go YNWA77 {ed's note - you would expect he must be hanging on by his fingertips right now
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I can't see us losing tonight or against Fulham but then we go away again and the problems continue.
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15 Dec 2010 13:41:12
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15 Dec 2010 12:44:37
I belive the two best managers lfc shuold be looking at is owen coyle and sean o`driscoll YNWA
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Totally agree with you mate. The more I think about it, the more I think Owen Coyle would be the perfect fit for us. Those who have said its too early for him are wrong.

He palys football in the right way, players love him, he talks very well, he's passionate and wouldn't aspire to move on to the next big thing if he signed for us. LFC would be his 'Graceland'!

It makes sense on so many levels. It could be another Shanks, and similar to Red Nose at the Mancs even!

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15 Dec 2010 13:38:30
Liverpool Rumours
Roy was asked about his first 6 months at LFC and said he expected us to be in the top 4 and to win some trophies. Why did he not say we want to win the league? ?? If you start off only wanting top 4 at best that is what you will get. Why don't he aim for the top and see where we end up. He does my head in!
EST.1892

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15 Dec 2010 13:33:07
Come on then lads tonights predictions ill have 3-0 torres double. What u reckon ed?

LAVERS {ed's note - 3-1, I can't see us keeping a clean sheet, unfortunately.}

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15 Dec 2010 13:23:30
"Someone put up a thing about the best staduims they had been to. Nou camp, croke park and Celtic park for some reason. Three worst would be prenton park, Windsor park the valley. What are the 3 worst and best staduims u have been to?{Editor's Note: The Camp Nou is a great stadium and the worst, Cappielow Park.}

goodison, windsor park(linfield n. ire) and solitude(cliftonville n. ire) solitude actually used to have guys pissing in the corner of the stands lol worst 3 stadiums ive been to."

- -Hi guys, just a note on the best and worst stadiums. I'm from N.Ireland myself and played Irish League football for 3 years. The stadiums mentioned (Windsor Park, Solitude) all of which I played at regularly are particularly bad and unfortunately we have a bad reputation for stadia quality. We don't get much investment into the game over here and standards have slipped over the years as a result.

I love getting over to Anfield obviously but I thought the Reebok was quite good as well. In N.Ireland, many clubs, such as my old team Crusaders FC in Belfast, are now getting artificial pitches laid instead, mainly to generate extra revenue from hiring them out etc etc. So hopefully we will see an improvement in facilities in N.I over the coming years.

So if there is ever to be another Liverpool-Linfield pre-season game, come on over!

Also I was wondering what the facilities are like in the likes of Division 1 and 2 and the lower leagues in England?

Thanks guys,

EmeraldKop87

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15 Dec 2010 13:20:13
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15 Dec 2010 11:59:51
Liverpool Rumours
If we got banega what would we do with Lucas?

Lethal Injection should do the trick.
REEGSLFC

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15 Dec 2010 13:14:35
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If we got banega what would we do with Lucas?

banega, personally better player, who wd alternate wiv meireles and maybe one day replace gerrard.
Lucas, who has been brilliant this season, wd be on the bench too, alternating, maybe form a partership wiv meireles and banega so those 3 wd be very strong. Poulsen, good as gone. :D

lineup (perhaps wivout stevie)

- - reina- -
fanni- agger- mexes- contrao
- - meireles- lucas- banega-
- - honda- llorente- surez

I Know Banega is highly rated but from the last two premier league games he has been awful and not fit to lace Lucas's boots
cad

sorry guys i meant champions league
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15 Dec 2010 13:13:50
Liverpool Rumours
The Got milk campaign have praised Roy Hodgson for his excellent calling him it a 'once in a lifetime opportunity' because he is one of the greatest actors of our time

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15 Dec 2010 13:12:06
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" {ed's note - it really doesn't matter about any of that, the only thing that matters is if Pep would pick Reina over Valdes. Let's be clear, he would, and the fans would love Pepe, he is one of them.}"

I'm afraid it does matter. If prudence didn't matter and the only criteria is who Guardiola wanted in his squad then he would have kept Chyrgrynskiy. If player power wasn't an issue then Pep wouldn't have ceded to player pressure when Puyol feel out of favour. The fans would love Reina, but they would be far from impressed with the spending of money in such an area when they already have a keeper they rate and so dearly want Fabregas back.

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15 Dec 2010 13:08:30
Team tonight

Reina
Kelly Wilson Skrtel Aurelio
Shelvey Poulsen
Kuyt Babel Jovanovic
Torres

Jones
Robinson
Flanagan
Pacheco
Lucas
Eccleston
Maxi

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15 Dec 2010 13:08:12
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If city get suarez, and we get carlton cole, then i will never watch us again until that bufoon hodgson has gone.

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15 Dec 2010 13:06:46
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15 Dec 2010 12:44:37
I belive the two best managers lfc shuold be looking at is owen coyle and sean o`driscoll YNWA

We may need to act quickly if we want O'Driscoll as Sheff Utd are said to be keen.

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15 Dec 2010 12:44:37
I belive the two best managers lfc shuold be looking at is owen coyle and sean o`driscoll YNWA

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15 Dec 2010 12:28:31
TO ED . if lfc lose tonight at utrecht would hodgson get sacked. or lose tonight and lose to fulham surly he must go YNWA77 {ed's note - you would expect he must be hanging on by his fingertips right now.}

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15 Dec 2010 11:47:42
BREAKING NEWS! ! LIVERPOOL SIGN STOCKER! ! liverpool manager roy hodgson was pleased to announce the capture of stocker, sadly its not valentin but les stocker from tiggiewinkles animal hospital, jimmybosun

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15 Dec 2010 11:27:33
Best moment of my life? Being called Fernando Torres by a little kid in Spain :) I had my hair like his you see, wore my Liverpool top, people had to look twice. Shame I don't have an 8th of his footballing talent!

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15 Dec 2010 11:27:20
I keep saying it guys cause I'm thick and brainless but RaFa is our guy. After he is sacked by Inter in the next week or so he will be available again and we can start a petition to get him back. That way all our banners and Rafa songs won't go to waste. Rafa will baffle the opposition and the media with his amazing tactical changes and he will stand up to these new bunch of yanks owners and fight with them for us. After his spell in Italy I'm sure he will have scouted loads of new talent for our club. Instead of signing monekys like konchelski we will have real talent like Andrea Dossena in our side. Oh I can't wait

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15 Dec 2010 11:25:43
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"But in players like Gerrard in particular, and also Poulsen and Lucas, he's got players he can look at as the benchmark and what he's got to reach. Hopefully they'll help him reach it."

This is what Roy said on the official website about Shelvey personaly i believe Jonjoe passed Poulsens ability 17 years ago, i hope he gets a start tonight and so should Suso, Kelly, Pacheco with some more senior players around them.

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15 Dec 2010 11:21:15
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Come on red men tonight. Let's take the game to these.

Spriggo

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15 Dec 2010 11:21:09
Liverpool Rumours
Personally I don't think we are gonna buy a lot of players in jan. .
People keep saying w need a sriker. striker. striker. .common man we have system of 4-2-3-1 which works so well. .and how will u fit another striker there.
4 people at back. .suerly we need two midfileld dynamaties. .lucas/ gerrard/ merilies. .now all three are good players. .
now we need a player behind torres. .to link him with midfield. .cole/ aquillini. they both are just class. .cannot play them on flanks. .
the only thing we need is a left attacking midfield player. .
possible turan. swap him with babel. .turan/ jovanovic will keep that place good. .
on the right we have kuyt who is good enough to play. like he played against chelsea this season. (first goal). but we do need another player. .like lennon or someone.
common. against new castle. we played 4-4-2. maxi, and Ngoog. .now what you think thye defenders will be scared of Ngoog. common wen u don't have a second striker. y on earth are we trying to play 4-4-2. and in this syste, . were will we put cole/ aquillini/ meirieles. . . . .
Hodgson has no idea. what to do. .
we need a LB. sure. .and a CB. common i do agree we need a striker. .not a world class. some one youg.like tionoven who is ready to play 25-30 mts ever game wen torres plays. .for first 60 mts.

I wish we had Rafa. at least we would have finished 4th.
do you think we will beat UTD ever again away?? with roy? ?

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15 Dec 2010 11:13:32
Liverpool Rumours
Steve McMahon Aston Villa £350,000 12.09.1985
John Durnin Waterloo Dock Free 29.03.1986
Barry Venison Sunderland £200,000 31.07.1986
Steve Staunton Dundalk £20,000 02.09.1986
Alan Irvine Falkirk £75,000 Oct 1986
John Aldridge Oxford £750,000 27.01.1987
Nigel Spackman Chelsea £400,000 24.02.1987
John Barnes Watford £900,000 09.06.1987
Peter Beardsley Newcastle £1, 900,000 14.07.1987
Mike Marsh Kirkby Town Free 21.08.1987
Ray Houghton Oxford £825,000 19.10.1987
Nick Tanner Bristol Rovers £20,000 01.08.1988
Ian Rush Juventus £2, 800,000 18.08.1988
David Burrows WBA £550,000 20.10.1988
Barry Jones Prescot Cables £500 19.01.1989
Glenn Hysen Fiorentina £600,000 01.06.1989
Steve Harkness Carlisle £75,000 17.07.1989
Ronny Rosenthal Standard Liege £1,000,000 29.06.1990
Tony Cousins Dundalk £70,000 Oct 1990
Don Hutchison Hartlepool £175,000 27.11.1990
Jimmy Carter Millwall £800,000 10.01.1991
Jamie Redknapp Bournemouth £350,000 15.01.1991
David Speedie Coventry £675,000 30.01.1991

Kenny Dalglish bought 23 players for £12, 535, 500

Bob Bolder Sunderland Free 1985
Phil Thompson Sheff Utd Free Mar 1985
Alan Kennedy Sunderland £100,000 Sep 1985
Phil Neal Bolton Free Dec 1985
Sammy Lee QPR £200,000 Aug 1986
John McGregor Rangers £70,000 Jun 1987
Ian Rush Juventus £3, 200,000 01.07.1987
Alan Irvine Dundee Utd £100,000 28.08.1987
Ken De Mange Leeds United £65,000 Sep 1987
Mark Seagraves Man City £100,000 25.09.1987
Brian Mooney Preston £82,000 09.10.1987
Kevin MacDonald Coventry Free 1988
John Wark Ipswich £100,000 04.01.1988
Paul Walsh Tottenham £500,000 16.02.1988
Nigel Spackman QPR £500,000 02.02.1989
John Durnin Oxford £250,000 10.02.1989
Jim Beglin Leeds United Free Jun 1989
John Aldridge Real Sociedad £1, 250,000 13.09.1989
Jim Magilton Oxford £100,000 03.10.1990
Alex Watson Bournemouth £150,000 18.01.1991

Kenny Dalglish sold 20 players for £6, 767,000

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15 Dec 2010 11:11:34
Liverpool Rumours
Before we get all 'Dewey Eyed' at the prospect of Dalglish returning as Manager, I think his six years (1985-1991) bears some scrutiny. I am a Red and stood on the Kop for all of those years and, like most, look upon it with great affection. However, if you look at the team that won the trophies back then, it was mostly players that were pre Dalglish and the team was settled and successful. He inherited a fantastic squad and took it on to great things. However, here is the nub. . as his reign went on he never successfully replaced the likes of Hansen, Whelan, Lawrenson, Nichol and Grob who were coming to the end of their careers. . Yes he bought well in Barnes, Beardsley, Aldo and Spackers and gelled them well but towards the end of his time the likes of Speedie, Carter, Hutchison and Hysen were panic buys as the roof began to fall in and (please forgive this treason) you could actually trace the start of our demise as a team, back to this era (the title) Please don't get me wrong, I am far from slagging off this period, I am merely wishing to add some balance to the calls for King Kenny to return. If the Editorial 'Powers that Be' will allow me , I will post all of the Dalglish Buys and Sales 85-91 also for the sake of balance . Thanks for reading, sorry for length of post. {ed's note - post away mate. Is it possible to include the date Sir Bob Paisley left? So we can see how much was Sir Bob's guidance.}

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15 Dec 2010 11:04:49
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15 Dec 2010 00:05:59
Liverpool Rumours
Bobo of besiktas in turkey could be a little surprise. 25, brazilian has 13 in 22 so far this season could be cheap his contract expires in the summer

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Why are we talking about cheap players, we need to spend proper money on top class players before its to late.

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15 Dec 2010 09:14:10
14 Dec 2010 14:35:12
Not surprised you said did mate, I live in Pilar and you can keep Cabo Roig and all the other Little Britain enclaves right beside it.! England in the sun, UK Papers and cooked breakfast land.

ha ha I know - my Spanish got worse when I was there, though I do have an Irish twang now. You haven't got a pub in Pilar have you? I met a pub-running scouser there a few years back who gave me two packs of the worst spanish ciggies of all time for 2 euros. I lit one and had to leave them there they were so bad.

SpanishChris

Chris,

We actually do have an Irish bar here, changed hands so many times due to lack of Brits, awful place. Last time I was told Pilar has 64 bars so no need for an Enlgish one.!
Matt

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15 Dec 2010 08:46:30
Liverpool Rumours
Who i think should be manager of prem-teams.

So i was thinking, if we removed the money and politics out of the game. Then some of these clubs where made for these manager.

Man Utd SAF sir alex ferguson
arsenal Arsene Wenger
Man city Sven-Göran Eriksson
Chelsea José Mourinho
Tottenham Glenn Hoddle
Bolton Sam Allardyce
Newcastle Kevin Keegan
Liverpool Kenny Dalglish
WBA Roberto Di Matteo
Blackpool Ian Holloway
Stoke City Tony Pulis
Blackburn Mark Hughes
Aston Villa Martin O'Neill
Everton David Moyes
Fulham Roy Hodgson
West Ham Harry Redknapp
Birmingham Steve Bruce/ karen brady
Sunderland Roy Keane/ Peter Reid
Wigan Paul Jewell
Wolves Mick McCarthy

These people emotionally connected with those clubs. Such as Roy Hodgson at Fulham. He took them to relegation and then saved them from the drop. Then build them into European Team. People of Fulham respect him for that. At Bolton Sam Allardyce.

Liverpool has Kenny Dalglish and Newcastle have Kevin Keegan. Managers that became gods.

But with Roy Hodgson: trying to take the bird into the flames and rising up stronger.

This is something he could never do at Enfield because everyone thinks the sun shines out of
Torres + Gerrards ass and that LFC have some divine right to beat teams like Newcastle

LFC fans think every (top 4) team
Roy Hodgons is (the problem)

I as a fan would agree. ian hollway + Di matteo have shown Attack is the best form of defence. Those teams go out with average players and play attacking football without fare,

FARE:

Liverpool all about the fare. They have a defensive mentally with a team of players who are not very good at defending. Our attack is stronger than defensibly.

Problem with ROY> Rroblem with Benitez.

I hope John Henry is told this. We the fans are fed up of defensive managers. Deploying negative tactics I for one do not want to sit through another 10 years of bad football.

Look at Bolton. They are playing Attacking football, the players are enjoying themselves and average players are punching above their weight.

We are defensive, counter-attacking team that lets in too many goals. We never enough chances. The style of play at the club is all wrong.

That is something you can blame the manager for.

Roy Hodgson has no say over the kind of players that will be coming into the club. he has no say over the youth. He doesn't coach the players.

His only responsibility at LFC is to PICK the team + choose the style of play (tactic)

Both of which he has done poorly. Also I would make players work for their place in LFC starting lineup. i wouldn't let Torres walk back in if the boy in front of him scored a goal last week.

Also Player like Kelly forces his way into the team. Then gets dropped like a lead ballon,

I don't believe players like Carrargher, Johnson, Torres, Gerrard have to fight for their starting line up.

It just undermines the whole squad. Torres is better than everyone at the club. So the club is here to make Torres look good.

Well the fact is Joey Barton made Torres look like a fool. Torres has been walking it in for the whole season.

Roy Should make those players fight for a starting line up. Then get torres to train harder to get his place in the starting lineup. It would motivate R-Bable and Torres.

Im sure liverpool can do without the Likes of Carrargher, Torres and Gerrard and we proved it with the win against Aston Villa.


The Manager has Those two responsibility. I don't like his style of play. I don't like defensive football.

Lets Bring in Luiz Felipe Scolari and get Brazil + Portugal flair started.

THE RED HALF

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15 Dec 2010 07:57:25
SPENDING SITUATION:
Either NESV are in it for the long haul or they just want to increase the value of the club and sell up after a few years. There's no point speculating on that but either way they will spend or at least try and improve the club. . my reasoning is that they bought LFC for 300m. If they wanted an average team they would have bought blackburn for 20m.
-If they want to sell shirts, get good sponsorship deals etc then we need to be successful.
-If they want to sell the club after a few years e.g for 400m then we need to be successful.

MANAGER SITUATION:
Someone posted about the clause in Roy's contract saying he could be sacked in the first 3 months. I also remember broughton: saying "there is something like that in his contract" but no one really knows the details or an exact date.
Owen Coyle is tempting but I think it is too soon to judge him. . look what happened to Phil Brown at Hull. I never wanted Dalglish as manager because I agree with the eds that it is a big risk. However I would take him over Roy any day.
We should get:
1. Boas Villas
2. Unai Emery
3. Rafa

The other names like Hiddink and Van Gaal will be almost impossible to get.
We WILL improve but everything takes time, eg finding a replacement for roy and buying some decent players. Lets just pray that torres stays because roy cannot inspire him

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15 Dec 2010 07:28:46
Just a small point i would like to make ref our manager. i understand people when they say he plays defensively and i don't really like it but when roy was at fulham and playing in europa league they played some great attacking exciting football, the juve game they were great and it was a fantastic match to watch as a neutral. i know its only a few matches but there is no denying that fulham massively over achieved and surely that's down to roy? ?? last seasons fulham team was a good side i think they beat utd also with gera scoring a overhead shot. if liverpool could play like that with the players we have then i would imagine we would be a top side once again. it seems to me that roy just doesn't want to play like that (or he does and the players just don't want to or cant). we do have to remember that he has only brought in 3 players of his choice, (raul = good, poulson = not good, konchesky = not good) if we got 1 player right out of every three signings then i would say that's fairly good, gotta be better than rafas ratio! ! anyway im not fussed if roy goes but again what if they employed big sam. . . . .?? ? ?

matty b

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15 Dec 2010 07:11:00
Liverpool Rumours
Latest @ Ubaitullah Raguman Pakistani millionare in talk with Everton to takeover. And possiblity looking forward to meet Henry LFC owner to request ground share new stadium. Ubaitullah 's statement he was sad since fail to takeover LFC but he still keen to invest at merseyside. Good luck bluenoses
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Owners have ruled out a groundshare. When asked the question they replied "If the fans don't want it then it is a non-starter"

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15 Dec 2010 06:37:27
If we are gonna try go for the asian market like everyone suggests, keep torres, i wore my torres no-9 top in beijing and i got a hi-5 every 50 metres, owner of a store said she sold more torres tops then anything else.
if we have friendlies in asia, honda and torres, it's 1.3 billion people eating out of liverpool's hand

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15 Dec 2010 03:59:50
Ed does your site and more specifically the Liverpool rumour page have a facebook page or twitter account? There are lots of red fans out there that didn't know you guys were one of the most relevant LFC info sources out there. Might be a great way of of getting the word out to certain fans in the know. Keep up the good work. Got a feeling the Honda deal is near done and we will see a striker but don't think its going to be my choice or yours in Llorente.

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15 Dec 2010 02:56:32
Liverpool Rumours
Reina

johnston Carra Kyriakos Van der Wie l(jan)Honda (Jan) Gerrard Miereles Hazard (June)


Suarez (jan) Torres


subs: Kuyt, Agger, Cole, Lucas, Skrtyl, Ngog

Ive tried to keep it to a team that is possible as oppose to fantasy! as the owners are keeping quiet over transfers however, its hard to say!

I think it would be sinful not to make a serious effort to sign Suarez at this moment in time. he would instantly have a positive effect on the season and help us get the goals needed to get back into the top 4! however if not, an average striker (N'zogbia or carlton cole) would in no way be a step forward! to help torres the likes of suarez of llorente is needed!

I again think that Honda would fit well in the team, a good wide man that is definitely achievable! then u have hazard, who might b a bit far out, but come summer time, there will need to be another good signing once we start to perform so why not him!

Van der wiel again could go in at LB even tho he is a RB. sure he won't mind! lol

thoughts?

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15 Dec 2010 02:34:46
Liverpool Rumours
From 1959 when the great Bill Shankly joined Liverpool FC, every manager of the club has won at least 1 trophy. this
tradition will be broken by the current holder of that post. NESV will probably give Roy Hodgson funds for the January
Transfer window And only then after he has brought a couple of players in and results still haven't improved they might
do the right thing, even if results pick up i still expect him to leave at the end of the season. Even if the Europa league
is won. Next season looks like another year out of the Champions League, the club can't afford to keep losing the sort of
revenue the champions league brings in, plus players of a higher stature will start to have second thoughts about signing
so far we have played 17 premier league games and are - 1 goal difference this not only because of injuries to key players
but because of a cautious/ negative on and off the pitch, the way the manager talks about teams we are about to play in his pre match
press conference is becoming a joke, he makes them all out to be like Barcelona, when he should be pressing the case for us and what we can do
for gods sake Blackpool play with no fear. . . . .got to stop this rant as my head is about to explode. . . . . .

Deano95

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15 Dec 2010 02:04:08
Liverpool Rumours
Well i live in australia but im currently in argentina as i have family over here and word is that gary medel might be in , in january
what do you believe ed were liverpool ever intrested in him

{Editor's Note: I recall reported interest over the summer but have heard of nothing since then - so maybe.}

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15 Dec 2010 01:52:58
14 Dec 2010 22:19:24Liverpool RumoursAccording to press, our new owners feel that a more substantial role should be found for kenny within the club. Anyone any ideas what that could be?
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Let's see. .what could we do with one Kenny Dalglish?
New team cook? No not enough experience.
Photagrapher?
Wait here's an idea. How's about manager?
Anfield Rapstar

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15 Dec 2010 01:01:36
Mark {ed's note - the best way is to get in touch with the club directly and buy them through them, buying them from anyone else can lead to problems of touting or just a general mark up on the price. Failing that a lot of people have season tickets that they are unable to use for certain matches, there used to be sites for ticket swops etc. I have tried to steer clear, to be honest, it is a legal minefield and it only takes one person touting to cause no end of problems.}
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Try the candian fan club, I know they sell tickets or just keep checking the web site foe general sales

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15 Dec 2010 00:18:35
ED GOOGLE LIBERACE IMAGES PLEASE ITS ROYS DAD bob paisleys skids {ed's note - I seen them, it is scary how much it is like him!}

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