Liverpool Banter Archive February 15 2012
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15 Feb 2012 22:54:28
It's nice to see all is calm at the minute and that we are not in the news for any reason, good or bad. I have no doubt everyone at the club will have had a steep learning curve over the past few months, players, management and importantly PR department. If we as a club have learnt from the circumstances over the evra affair then we will be better for it.
Hopefully now we can get back to what we want to see the reds playing pass and move football again and more importantly, them the palyers enjoying the game. I have said on a few occasions that we look a far better side when we play the game at a high tempo and press teams further up the pitch. I really hope KK and his backroom team see this and let the reigns loose a little. I would also like to see us go with 3 up front at home from now till the end of the season, Andy, Luis and Craig, as I think the 3 combined would scare teams from the off.
The back five pick itself, although if GJ puts in any more performances (defensively) like Saturday then I would swap him for Kelly.
The midfield is the key area but also the most difficult to pick, Stevie, has to play, but not every game (I personally think he is still recovering rather than 100%). So who plays with him, at home I would put C Adam and Spearing in.
Away from home I would drop Craig back to the left then introduce Dowing, Kuyt or Henderson on the right. This is were it's difficult for me, as I said I think Stevie is still recovering so the midfield 4 could be without him, depending who we play(?). Spearing covers a lot of ground and does the job no one else really wants to, so he is a given until Lucas returns.
C Adam, not quick enough for me but then the question who will/can spot a pass if both Stevie and Adam don't play? This is the issue for me, either/or have to play when we are away from home, but not both. Then again I'm not the boss and I don't have to decide! keep the faith fellow reds, it's going to be an exciting run in for us redmen! - TMac
Good post. what to think of Hendo in the Middle?
Dara D
The main problem is not the personnel, but the tactics, and the fact that some of the players appear to have lost all confidence in their ability.
I brought this up last week. Personally I think it should be (from the left) Adam, Henderson, Spearing, Gerrard and we should be relying on attacking full backs for width. As soon as Lucas ius fit he takes Spearing's place. That gives two quality midfield subs - Spearing & Shelvey.
15 Feb 2012 22:18:55
Hi ed,
do ye think that maybe a few of the likes of sterling,coady,suso etc wil get a run out against Brighton?
thanks
josh {Ed002's Note - I think there is a chance of a cameo or two.}
15 Feb 2012 22:19:09
This "news" about Suarez handing in a transfer request I think is BS. Even if it was true, the window is closed anyway apart from in Russia and I don't think he'd want to move there. Either way he's staying to the end of the season at least.
Hans
Hi Ed's, Just read in the Mirror that Phil Morris of the Manchester FA has been suspended after being found guilty of using racially aggrvated language at the United training ground, Perhaps this is why Ferie caused a stink on the Surez affair to divert attention from this.....Bobbinred {Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with Ferguson or the club.}
Yes but the point I was trying to make was that you don't see Fergie or United jumping up and down about this, after all it happened on United's training ground
Bobbinred
The obsession with Man United never ceases to amaze me.
Our coaching staff also appear to be afflicted with this Fergie/United obsession, and unable to think straight. They have gotten under our skins good and proper.
The reason it has suddenly gone quiet is because United were also starting ti get damaged due to Evra's post-match antics. United and Liverpool as a result have taken a joint stance and basically told the press to pack it in or neither of them will talk to them anymore. The press no that this is no joke as Ferguson wouldn't talk to the BBC for years. RED LENIN.
I suspect Evra will be shipped out as soon as season is over. It's that ruthlessness that keeps United on top. We used to be that way - we aren't any more.
15 Feb 2012 22:05:30
I think the FA could do worse than get rid of that absolutely hopeless Gordon Taylor
I'm sure the FA are delighted with the Muppets they have on board -
"Yes Men" who do what they're told when they're told regardless of collateral damage
He's a union leader and nothing to do with the FA. He get his money for union out of sky deal. Which Red Nev nearly had the footballers out on strike for a couple of years ago
lyndon
Personally I can't stand Gordon Taylor but he's nothing to do with the FA
Chris in Tamworth
15 Feb 2012 22:03:52
Gooner on here few days ago slagging merits of our side.Emmm concentrate on yourselves me thinks! lol lol
You make a good point - we have enough issues of our own.
However, it's still fun to laugh at Arsenal being embarrased, given that their fans are probably the most arrogant in the league.
Second to Spurs in arrogance (although I'm sure Arsenal would demand that they are first)
Milan 4 gooners 0
pmsl
15 Feb 2012 22:00:50
Been really disappointed with Stewart Downing's performances this season. Waste of good money. He will have no re-sale value. Put it this way, we will never get back the money we paid for him. At least with Carroll he's only 23 and with good performances and goals his value can only rise. Can't say the same about Downing, he is an average player at best who had 1 good season at Aston Villa.
OK, he lacks confidence I guess, but 0 goals an 0 assists in the premiership tells the story.
If he doesn't improve, I think we should get shot of him whatever we can get for him. Can't cross, passes backwards all the time, keeps cutting in when he is supposed to run to the byline and cross.
He is not LFC quality, and certainly not for 20m quid!
KK please buy quality continental this summer, please do not buy more english overpriced dross!
More dross on the way
More dross on the way? Will he be posting again?
MIKEY
Unfortunately, Downing has so far reminded me of Robbie Keane - big price tag, cant cut it at a club bigger than Villa despite his obvious talent. Cmon Stewart, prove me wrong.
cozinoz
15 Feb 2012 21:59:48
shocking! europa league on itv1 tomorrow night, just bcoz city n utd are in it
I thought the same earlier
Hans
No collective buying deal on Europa league. Liverpools games were Nearly always bought by ESPN or Channel 5
Lyndon
15 Feb 2012 21:53:03
Posted this on the gooners banter page.........such fun, and even had an agree! lol - TMac
15 Feb 2012 21:26:03
12 Feb 2012 19:14:22
hey liverpool fans lets get behind ure team to finish behind norwich. Arsenal fan here. You guys spent over 100 in 1 year and are so crap. Andy cant buy a goal carrol. Jordon worst player in prem henderson. And stuart downing omg. Least charlie was a good signing. Use can have denilson vela and bentner dnt need to worry bout u guys. Azda14
Hi Azda14.............remember this?? course you do you posted it on our site on Sunday.......ha,ha, oh dear, another season of empty hopes! Oh dear never mind, as Del Boy famously said, this time next year...........NOT! - TMac
Yep Gooners, really showed AC how to do it tonight. I'd concentrate on your own problems just now...
ND
15 Feb 2012 21:50:25
I thought we would be a lot better this year in attack an maybe not be as good as we have been in defence.
But the defenders have all been at the club a while bar Enrique who really hit the ground running.
But our strikers last year where torres, kuyt, babbel and ngog. It's now Carroll, Suarez, kuyt and Bellamy. A massive change. Plus a similar amount of distruption in midfield. Especially with the injurys to Lucas and gerrard.
So it's no real surprise really that we are not scoring goals and the fact we have been so poor in the final third. Yet so solid at the back.
I think we need to see the bigger picture and be patient with our players because we all know how good the likes of downing and Carroll are when settled. It's not just a case of waiting for one or two players to settle, that can take up to a year in itself, but most of the whole midfield and attackers need to settle and that could be even longer.
I have noticed we are improving as the season goes on but we are still a million miles away from the full potential of our players and team.
MIKEY
(glass half full)
Lots to look forward to in the near future.
15 Feb 2012 21:45:40
I think Milan just shaded it tonight. It's "gunner" be a silent trip home.
Square tomato
15 Feb 2012 21:44:11
Thought Chamberlain would of came on scored Five for a 5-4 win the way some Have been Masterbating over him!!!
You know who you are!!lol
Lyndon
15 Feb 2012 21:28:50
While watching the gooners losing I remembered this little gem from a gooner posted on Sunday while we were at odds with each over over Saturday.....just thought I'd bring a little cheer to their miserable night as I wouldn't want to see them upset.....lol - TMac
12 Feb 2012 19:14:22
hey liverpool fans lets get behind ure team to finish behind norwich. Arsenal fan here. You guys spent over 100 in 1 year and are so crap. Andy cant buy a goal carrol. Jordon worst player in prem henderson. And stuart downing omg. Least charlie was a good signing. Use can have denilson vela and bentner dnt need to worry bout u guys. Azda14
Hi Azda14.............remember this???? course you do you posted it on our site on Sunday.......ha,ha, oh dear, another season of empty hopes!! Oh dear never mind, as Del Boy famously said, this time next year...........NOT!! - TMac
15 Feb 2012 21:22:26
Hi ed's just a bit of info regarding are boys in the nextgen series: liverpool will host the first NextGen Series semi-final against Ajax at Anfield on March 14 (7pm), with Inter Milan facing Marseille in the other semi-final at Brentford's Griffin Park on March 21.
Liverpool were beaten by Tottenham in the quarter-finals but were reinstated after the London club fielded an ineligible player.
The final will be at Selhurst Park on March 25.
Just like to wish them GOOD LUCK! Y..N..W..A- Thanks ed's DHH L20 Kopite!
Apart from the fact that is copied it is a shame to see that an LFC fan admits to reading the Daily Mail.You'd be far better sticking to the Lady Male!!!
DM
But DM, Surely to know this, you infact read the daily mail aswell? Ouch.
15 Feb 2012 21:18:45
Anybody watching the arsenal vs ac milan game? If anyones taking any notice u will see that if you put pressure on arsenals defence they will crumble. Hope kenny realises this n doesnt sit back against them like we did against united but im sure the king will be fully aware of that!
ACHILLES.
15 Feb 2012 21:07:40
Just thought I'd praise Martin Skrtel as he's been superb this season and has improved no end. Him and Agger are becoming a great central defense partnership and we no longer have to worry about what will happen when Carra retires. He really hasn't got the credit he deserves IMO and he is the perfect player for Agger to play alongside. Also with Carra, Coates, Kelly, Wisdom and Sama as back up or coming through we really our going to have a strong defense for years to come. Remember reds lets think positive!
JFT96
Smithy
Couldn't Agree more. He is also a hard -ass. I loved the way he was essentially Suarez's personal bodyguard when the boys left the pitch against the Mancs.
Top player and top teammate.
LIVERPRES
First time since Hyppia that we've had a decent partnership at the back. Just need a good partnership upfront imo.
kidmillions
I would give praise to Agger and Enrique also. Agger has become a real leader of the back line and is great at playing the ball out from the back. Enrique has been so consistent and brilliant that I can't heap enough praise on him he combines his pace with great strength and power that is incredible how he hasn't got a cap for Spain is beyond me. For many years the left hand side has been vulnerable but definitely not any more.
N.I Red
I think if we have a right back exactly like Enrique, we'd have the perfect back-4.
Kaizer
@Kaizer, What about kelly. He is perfect in opinion.
AJ
15 Feb 2012 20:56:38
Have you heard anything about this? Raheem Sterling, Conor Coady and Andre Wisdom all in the pre-match squad to the Brighton match? Check this picture, maybe Sterling can get his debut? Would be great, seems like a great talent!
www.fmfile.com/opplastninger/1329333373.png
Cheers
I was thinking about Coady starting myself, would be good next to Henderson, with Shelvey in front. I think Carroll will play, as will Downing and possibly Bellany. Strong bench with Gerrard, Suarez etc
Papa G
To much of a banana skin to play the kid's!
15 Feb 2012 20:54:16
Rooney, strength of a 30 year old at 18. Mike Tyson, strength of a 30 year old at 18. Many top sportsmen possess this trait and it gives them the right platform to succeed in sport. With this in mind why didn't we make more of an effort to sign oxlade chamberlain.
Ozone
He was always going to go to Arsenal... His Dad felt it would be the best place for him to continue his development
RedSG
Because he wanted to play for arsenal.
MIKEY
He only wanted to arsenal made it quite obvious where he would end up
He only wanted to go arsenal mate
red raj
We did make an effort, he chose to go to Arsenal, simple as that.
Im pretty sure chamberlain moved to arsenal only to get more game time. he will defo move to a bigger club in a couple of seasons. After all, arsenal r a football factory, not a football club r they?
Indian Buzzer
He wanted to go to arsenal
15 Feb 2012 20:48:16
Awww...... Just read about evra being rested due to his"emotional week" Just knew he was a woman - it was his time of the month. i think the real reason he has been rested is his legs are tired after skipping around like louis spence. come on ajax do us all a favour and get Man Utd off c5
stu
Louis Spence! Lmao.
Nothing at all to do with louis spence, alex ferguson has gone and seen the situation and decided to pull evra out. the backlash that evra was likely to get at ajax was probably worse than he recieved at anfield. luis suarez is held in the kind of regard at ajax that most players can only ever dream about in their career. he would of been absolutely crucified every time he touched the ball and ferguson has protected him from this. i'm gutted!
s.p
Agreed SP, Luis Suarez has a massive following in Holland and Uruguay. Whilst he's controversial, I hope we keep him. He's one of those players who get lost in the moment but outside of the game he's a saint.
15 Feb 2012 20:45:54
Watching the AC Milan game and Andy can learn a thing or two from Zlatan about how to use your size and strength to your advantage. He's done well lately Andy but Zlatan is the type of player I hope he can evolve into and then he'll be well worth that £35 000 000.
Capetownred
Could just be that the gooners are a poor lot defensively.
kidmillions
At the moment, Andy is more Sean Dundee than Zlatan. But hey, stranger things have happened . . .
Crocodile Dundee !!
Phooey
I agree with Capetownred, he has got some skill he's shown and his first touch has improved drastically. He can also pass now so give it two years and he'll be the perfect footballer. Hope he starts against Brighton as I can see him scoring quite a few
15 Feb 2012 20:37:35
Do ya recon we could get Carroll to play like ibrohamavic(spelling) ;-) he looks class for a big lad.
Gaz b
15 Feb 2012 20:33:55
Any Arsenal fans thinking about coming on having a go should be thinking twice. Shocking at the back!!
4th place doesn't look as iffy as I thought.
Lyndon
15 Feb 2012 20:26:49
Would love to see Kenny groom Gareth Southgate. Gareth is a prince of the game but Kenny could mould him and work on him and turn him into our future King. Southgate speaks with such authority and while he is the consumate pundit I feel he deserves a crack at a big one and LFC would give it to him. Hope this great English man gets back on the game and I could see him in a few years take us down the tunnell.
Zlatan
He's terrible don't let him near us.
Realistic red
I can only assume this is a windup or you need to be sectioned - this talentless twit is the FA Head of Elite Development (Youth) - I doubt he can even manage that - but it will keep him off the streets
Blimey, think I'd rather Gareth Gates be our next manager than Gareth Southgate.
JRG
I laugh at people don't get sarcasm on this site, but I think you're actually being serious? Really? Southgate? Wow. Best get in there quick before Real Madrid get him to succeed Jose. Nick.
Take us down the tunnell
what tunnell - the Mersey Tunnell? sorry this is the daftest post I've seen in a long, long time.
Groom Southgate? Kenny's not a Fookin hairdresser! ;-)
kidmillions
15 Feb 2012 21:10:58
Whats other Reds Views on Boetang?
Over rated like so many players in Italy
Kp
Bad hair. Needs grooming. See above for details lol.
ND
Yeh charlie is better; u clown
15 Feb 2012 21:10:24
Would love it if we very rarely had to buy anyone, just had youngsters coming through, because they are certainly good enough.
Square tomato
15 Feb 2012 21:10:22
Does anyone else feel the Standard of our top clubs has dipped overall,the last few years?
15 Feb 2012 20:19:05
Sent long reply to Rangers fan-like to see it posted,ta Ed {Ed002's Note - We cannot post it as it contained potentially libelous statements.}
Sorry re the libelous,not totally sure what part though
I hope the revenue nail them and then start on the premier league. Rangers fans moaning that it could be the end of an institution! What about the health, education, police, fire service and public service institutions. What about the victims of austerity because of holes in the public purse. Rangers knew the tax bill was on the horizon and should've set the sum to one side for worst case senario. To add insult to injury it wouldn't surprise me if the majority of the players have preferential creditor terms in their contract placing them before the revenue should the club go into liquidation.
With this in mind you have to admire FSG for refusing to pay wages that don't sit proportionally with revenues.
Ozone
DO NOT say "ta", it is chavvy, slang and certainly not proper english.
"Baz."
Mmm but to be fair we so nearly couldve been in same situ
We weren't in the same situation. We didn't avoid paying tax, we just had owners who used our club as leverage.
Ozone
15 Feb 2012 20:17:39
F"£&;:G HELL! Their must be good man management
At AC Milan....Robinho's Tracking Back!!
Lyndon
15 Feb 2012 20:14:51
Would love to have kevin prince boateng, always knew he was talented and he's proving it at milan...did you see that goal few mins ago...
KingMiz
A damien comolli signing when he was at spurs the guy really does hav an eye for future talent with resale value.
ACHILLES.
I wish commoli had more control over signing players. Kenny's picks r damn poor.
Indian Buzzer
Really Indian Buzzer? Comolli signed these players years ago before they were proven. We'd have to wait years for his signings to become good not to mention one of the best youth teams out there. Kenny is gathering players that can fill a gap (Downing, Adam) to allow other players to adapt and start a successful period of dominance.
15 Feb 2012 20:13:14
the team that will finish fourth will have to go on a good long unbeaten run. will that be us only time will tell . too many times this season its been one step forward two back . please kenny next 13 games lets go out all guns blazing no negative tactics would rather get beat 6-5 than lose 1-0. the time is nigh now kenny lets sail close to the wind now than regret it come may.
alan waddle
Totally agree
As john wayne said THEY DIED WITH THEIR BOOTS ON. ye couldnt ask for more than that.
15 Feb 2012 20:10:23
"I've been treated like a dog!" claims Tevez.
When have you ever known a dog to refuse chasing a ball around a field.
Dirks Engine Room
Joke of the day!
Just shows what an immense bel*en* he really is.
Bit like his mate Javier! £200k a week with everything he could ask for and he's treated like a dog. I'd take being treated like a blind ,deaf dog for half his wage, a third even.
Lol. Excellent.
The Real KB
To be fair my dalmatian drives a hummer too, thats how she roles.
KNEE JERK
15 Feb 2012 19:44:43
Wish Roy Keane would revert to type and end
Adrian Chiles Career!! The Muppet
lyndon
15 Feb 2012 19:39:13
After my short sabbatical, i realise a tad late, but i felt the need to comment on the Suarez issue. After the furore and, ironically Rangers making the headlines, there are still many opinions on what to do, what will happen, what happened etc.
Firstly the handshake. Suarez was in the wrong regardless. All this talk about dropping hands, Evra didn't want to shake, is all a smokescreen from LFC fans who are just entrenched in their 'we support Suarez regardless' stance. There are bigger things at stake than the personal feelings of two pawns. Let's get one thing straight, neither of them really wanted to shake hands with each other and that showed. Unfortunately Suarez allowed Evra to claim the higher moral ground and gave the millions of pundits, media and opposition fans who were equally entrenched in their 'He is a racist' stance the ample evidence. When the whole argument was about who was the 'more reliable character' here was the evidence.
It was a bad mistake, considering when Suarez gave the club, who had supported him through thick and thin, an undertaking that he would indeed shake hands in the week prior to the game. No doubt he would have been informed by the club that the actual act would mean nothing and that the club still supported him but he needed to do this for the club. Suarez let a lot of people down on Saturday.
It also gave the anti LFC media the absolute ideal opportunity to really get stuck into the club knowing we were between a rock and a hard place. For the LFC fans to try and peddle out of this one, just made the mockers mock more. Yet we tried. Photos flooded twitter about Suarez holding a hand out, Evra dropping his thumb etc. All we were doing was just making us look ridiculous and those neutral people who were on the fence regarding the issue, suddenly fell into the 'Suarez is not a nice person, and the panel obviously got it right'.
Our biggest gripe regarding this episode was the process, the evidence, the verdict and how it was reached. The media were totally ignoring our cries and used them to turn the tables. LFC supporting a racist blah, blah, blah. This fuelled our anger, the media fed on this and around the circle went. Suarez then completely undermined all this in one foul swoop.
To increase the anger and frustration, we then had to endure not only Evra and Ferdinand playing up but that tool fergie actually preaching to US and getting away with it! I was absolutely furious. Of course the Oliver Holt's, Patrick Barclay's of this World were like dogs with three hard dicks. We had to take it. There was nothing more we could do. Suarez had put us in that position.
Then out came the apologies, followed by the anti LFC media continuing their skulduggery. 'Forced to apologise by the sponsors, by the pressure in the States, etc.etc' PFA got on board, had their say, used their 15 mins of fame to good effect.
What about Evra's shenanigans you ask? Well our old foes The FA drew a line under the whole business and wipe everything off the record. They did us a favour. Whilst Fergie & Co got away with incitement, we needed to get this issue dumbed down and quick.
For the record, i have no qualms about how the club managed this issue until recently. I didn't think Dalglish's comments on Monday night before the Spurs game was particularly bright and if the issue was going to die down saying 'he shouldn't have been banned in the first place' was not helpful in the slightest. His post match interview after the united game was to put it mildly embarrassing. Other than this the club were not guilty of poor management of the situation, in my opinion
Suarez was/is going to be under such scrutiny in everything he does on the field, the Parker incident evidence that for the rest of the season he steps out of line just once, he'll get little sympathy. You can now add no sympathy whatsoever following Saturday, evidenced by the Ferdinand red card tackle on him.
Add in the fans reaction, the media and i think you'll find it will be the player who bales on the club before the club bale on him.
I do not think for one minute the club will look to sell him in the summer. How Suarez copes throughout the rest of the season will be key. If he can remind everyone, not just this club, what he can do on the pitch, it's a start.
Suarez let us down. However it aint the end of the World. But he's got some payback to make. If i were writing the script, the winning goal(s) in the Carling and FA Cup finals would about make it even.
Bob the Red
Thats why i like you Bob, short and sweet.
KNEE JERK
My god it is so nice to have a real person with a really good perspective. i am not a liverpool supporter and i have not been over impressed with suarez's attitude but this blog is the best i have ever read on here. i hope suarez reads this and realises just how much you guys love your club and starts do more positive things for the club well wrote sir you should/could be on the board. and hey guys good luck with your season just not too much as i want my team to finish higher. honesty wins everyone over
Too late! Let it go! Bob: Everything's already been said and put to bed.
I'm off to bed meself " Good night God Bless and mind the Blues**te don't Bite! :)
kidmillions
I was waiting to hear what you had to say on the matter Bob. And I knew it would be a few days after the 'furore' and that it would be good. Well said. I couldnt agree more.
Dara D
15 Feb 2012 19:27:53
I don't understand the negativity on this site. We are in a final, have a championship side at home to get to the quaters, 4 points off 4 with both Arsenal and Chelsea at home, and dont have to play any of the top 3 this season why they all have at least one to play. We do have Newcastle away which will be tricky but we are more than capable of beating them away. Also stop slagging off the team, Kenny, the owners and the eds! Support the team and the manger. Also dont reply to annonomous posters as most of them are clearly keyboard warriors. We are known worldwide as the best fans in the world lets prove them right ans shove it in the media and whiskey noses face, when Suarez fires us to 2 trophies and top 4.
JFT96
Smithy
Agree and Would just love it!
kidmillions
Top 4 we'll c
15 Feb 2012 19:14:38
hi guys great website. hopefully we win our next two games. fa cup vs brighton and a carling cup final. i just want to know if there is any news on lucas?. thanks and ynwa
I heard he should be back for the final 3 games, maybe not fully fit but in training
15 Feb 2012 17:55:11
fergie really is scrapping the barrell now by sayiing that evra is pulled out of the squad for ajax because of an emotional week. It has nothing to do with that they are not in the champions league anymore?
Old whiskey nose is just a clown maybe he might come out tomorrow with stilts and juggle some balls well he alredy as the red nose. Maybe because he knows he is a very unsucessful in europe he is trying silly mind games already.
Mighty reds
I think Fergie must be a Farmer cos he's Milkin the crap out of the whole handshake thing
MJ
It may be that Ferguson is worried that Ajax
may target Evra. Suarez was their captain and he had a pretty good r3ception when he went back to say 'goodbye' {Ed002's Note - Not a chance.}
Shame your owners agree with him and made your star player and manager say sorry like good little boys
Daily Manc and Oliver Holt in particulr never miss a fookin chance to stick knife in.Even heysels been dragged up again
Shame your owners are pocketing all the money your club makes and forcing you to play your pensioners as you cannot afford new players.
JRG
Very naive to think our owners agreed with that chap Ferguson.
Were just getting in line and playing the game
kidmillions
As i said fergies european record is very poor. mighty reds
I think their was every chance of him getting some stick myself ed we've been stitched up good and proper over the whole incident
Kopman
It's a shame Kenny was not shrewd enough to do with the same with Suarez on Saturday.
15 Feb 2012 17:33:47
Latest Rumour
Ezequiel Lazezzi in "get agent to talk up move to Liverpool in order to get an improved contract and wage increase from Napoli or to hopefully start a bidding war to get the highest wage offer from any other team who's interested" shocker!
He's not the first and he won't be the last before August. Moussa Sow anybody?
Sean {Ed002's Note - It is not his agent.}
Right you are Ed002. How about
Ezequiel Lazezzi in "person who is an agent but is in no way connected to the player in question talks up move to Liverpool without any substance in order to enhance his own profile in the media, possibly start a bidding war from any club who is interested and maybe even earn himself a lucrative introducer fee or some other form of huge financial inducement because none of these parasites give interviews to the media unless they think there might be something in it for them" shocker! ;)
Sean {Ed002's Note - Jose Alberti does not need to enhance his own profile either.}
Ed, if you don't think he needs to enhance his own profile, and I would obviously bow to your superior knowledge as you seem to have more of a connection to the football world than me, then it seems to me that he could certainly do with enhancing his reputation and credibility in England. A cursory search of Google taught me that he's not done a great deal other than be classed as an "expert" by and tribalfootball.com and be classed as an agent in a few other quarters. He may well be connected with transfers in ways in which are not reported to people like me, but the ones I found his name mentioned in connection with have been badly wrongly called as "completed" or "certain" transfers, including Sneijder to United, Toni to West Ham and Dzeko to Milan. As I say though, you seem to have a better knowledge of the man than I.
Sean {Ed002's Note - He is well known for what he is Sean.}
15 Feb 2012 17:41:38
Aurelio as DM anyone?
He'd get tackled once and snap in half so its a big No No from me
MJ
Benitez tried him - he was dire
Redpath
15 Feb 2012 17:23:22
I miss Lucas!
Danski
When you have to watch Frodo,turning like the titanic instead of him, we all miss Lucas.
Who's frodo?
Myk
I'm guessing Frodo is Spearing but I think it is harsh because he has the potential to be a great player and before people start slagging off players that are just coming through maybe they should think back a few years ago to when they were insulting Lucas and now they are saying how much they are missing him
N.I Red
Spearing is a good squad player at best. Gr8 player? Not a chance. He can work his socks off 24 hrs a day, but it simply wont happen for him.
Indian Buzzer
15 Feb 2012 16:49:29
Just watched John Barnes again speaking on racism, really do think he's an excellent and eloquent speaker, Liverpool City Council are Looking to elect a new Mayor, there was a bit of a clamour for Ricky Tomlinson but he's not interested and I don't know whether Barnsey would be interested? But I think he would be a great Ambassador for the City. If being Mayor is not for him well I think the FA could do worse than get rid of that absolutely hopeless Gordon Taylor and give the job to Barnsey so the Fa can start to repair their image, which at the moment is as bad if not worse than anybody's.
What do you think? {Ed002's Note - Gordon Taylor does not work for the FA. I rather doubt that John Barnes will end up as Mayor of Liverpool.}
Jaysus John Barnes Mayor #of# Liverpool how silly can it get?
Next Jimmy Tarbuck will be supreme commander of England
Don't know what job Stan might get?
Sorry PFA but I never thought Arnie would end up Mayor of LA but he did. Liverpool needs a personality as Mayor and an Intelligent black man like Barnsey would be great in our City. Think he would get an awful lot of votes..
kidmillions {Ed002's Note - Schwarzenegger was Governor of California (not Mayor of LA) and followed such greats as Ronald Reagan.}
Stan Boardman for Foreign Secretary !
The Real KB
The mayor of Liverpool will be someone who is a Liverpool personality. The government does not wish political parties to play to big a role in the new Mayoral concept outside of London.
Greats as Ronald Reagan
Now that really is taking the proverbials
Ronny thought he was making a hollywood movie while president
Remember his I am going to enact legislation that will outlaw Russia forever and the he woke up.
{Ed002's Note - I remember him sending the National Guard in to the University of California at Berkeley.}
If barnsey was the mayor we can only hope suarez doesnt receive anything from him as it is customary to shake hands and we all no suarez doesnt do that to well
Well I couldn't give a monkeys if people don't agree, I would love Barnsey to be Mayor of Liverpool. Alright then how about Rafa he would definitely be a great Mayor.
kidmillions
Daft!
15 Feb 2012 15:43:56
the suareez rumour is bullsh*t it makes no sense whatsoever to hand a transfer request in the middle of february if he is to do it he'll wait untill the end of the season because no one is retorded enough to do it now
What if Anzhi or Zenit have indicated that they want him now?
15 Feb 2012 14:32:23
hi eds a question not lfc related but about the site, when I visit the other forums there isn't a way to come back like a home button, could you please look into it. I have to go the main web address everytime. thankyou
hibsylfc {Ed002's Note - Why not just save the Liverpool page as a favorite?}
I have ages ago and it is in my bookmarks too.
hibsylfc
15 Feb 2012 14:04:04
------------Reina-------------
Johnson-Skrtel-Agger-Enrique
-------Spearo--Adam-------
Gerrard----Suarez---Bellamy
-----------Carroll------------
Andy gesticulates in nearly every match that he wants balls hit high and direct with a vertical arch into him. The best person at supply this type of ammunition is Steven Gerrard.
This is why Gerrard should be playing the "Beckham" role on the right side of the midfield. He doesn't have to get to the by line and cross he can simply patrol the right hand side link up well with Johnson and either send Johnson through into the box or fire the said cross early and on to Andy's head.
Andy should stay in the box and occupy the defenders whilst Suarez in the free role finds and exploits the pockets of space to create chances on the floor with Andy/Bellars or getting the ball out wide to Gerrard/Johnson.
The Engineer
Generally speaking, I totally agree. The experiment I wouldn't mind seeing is Agger up as a CDM for Spearing, Kelly in for Johnson, Carra back next to Skrtel. Don't know if Agger would like it, but think he could make a fine CDM as Spearing isn't quite there yet in my opinion.
Spot on engineer mate.
kopfiend 1978 ynwa
Noted
thanks Kenny
No good waving your arms about, doesn't matter whether the balls to feet, knee,chest, head, back of the head wtf! Think about the ball played in to rooney in their derby last year with Ciy He didn't start waving his arms about because it was too high or behind him? He just twisted in the air overhead kick back of the net! Just using that goal as an example. Fed up listening to people saying Carroll needs better service? it's nonsense
At the level of football that Carroll's playing and getting well paid for. You need to have the ability to make something of even an ordinary ball in to the box. I admit Carroll is starting to show some improvement but he's still a long way off and waving his arms about is not going to improve his movement.
kidmillions
What ye talking about Rooney for kid millions?
You a manc?!
davethebutcher
I know thought that meself after I clicked send :-( lol
kidmillions
Rooney and Carroll are completely different players. Rooney has the ability to make something out of nothing such as that goal against City. You say that is an example Of turning an ordinary cross into something but how many players in the Premier league have the ability to have done what Rooney done? You may as say that playing this level of football and on the money he is paid he should be able to beat three or four players and then dink it into the top corner like Messi.
Carroll relies on good service into the box. On the few occasions he has received it he has looked threatening.
JRG
Kidmillions he doesnt wave his arms about before each set piece or at the start iof the match he will go up do players and up and forward showing the type of crosses that when sent in he cant beat anyone to. Open your eyes lad.
On the subject of type of cross Carroll would like! In to original poster who said Andy gesticulates in nearly every match that he wants balls hit high and direct with a vertical arch into himť I don't know what that means Vertical Arch Any way my point is how are you ever going to score a hooked shot. chest it down put it the corner, a diving header, a back header, a back heel, a toe poke, in off your knee, an overhead kick? All the sort of goals a striker scores.
I am not having a go at Carroll just pointing out however the ball comes into the box, adjust your body and get on the end of it..YOU CAN'T PLAY TELEGRAPHED VERTICALLY ARCHED BALLS INTO THE BOX, ( whatever they are ) THERE TOO EASY TO DEFEND AGAINST.
It's part of the reason when Carroll is not on his game and not scoring we look one dimentional.
kidmillions
Spot on kidmillions, I totally agree.
Ozone
If you dont play to his strength he may as well be sold, he scored most his headed goals with the same kind of balls from Joey Barton, Carroll with never be a complete all striker so stop dreaming and start being realistic.
15 Feb 2012 13:58:18
just read in Das Mail, that our Deluded winger, downing, is desperate to erase previous wembley woes. On this seasons performances a place on either the bench or coach is surely a non starter !
After his gutless performances this season, Downing doesn't deserve to go anywhere near Wembley.
15 Feb 2012 11:54:08
Just had a look at our remaining fixtures and we could go on a very good run. We only have to play Arsenal and Chelsea from the top 4 and the rest of the games we should win.I would bet that we qualify for CL and in the summer we should get some quality players, so people get behind KK stop speculating about players now, i think we have a good squad, be patent seasons not over and we have the Cardiff final to look forward too.!!
Like your optimism but we don't struggle against the big teams like arsenal and chelsea. Its the smaller teams we struggles against and need to get our home form sorted out asap
Everton is going to be a hard game,Sunderland away is not going to be easy
15 Feb 2012 11:42:10
Cant find any info on alleged suarez transfer requested?is this just more twitter talk or does anyone have any solid info?hope he gets his head down and gives his all for the club between now and the end of the season then if he wants to leave so be it.
PM
The Sky 'source' that has 'broke' this story has also said that Howard Webb has joined United on a free transfer so I would treat this report with a very large pinch of salt.
JRG
Howard webb is already partve Utd squad
15 Feb 2012 10:06:29
do you think the Ajax fans will target Evra on thursday night as Suarex was a hero there?
bigg2966 {Ed002's Note - No.}
He,s not playing
15 Feb 2012 08:48:23
Hi eds great site and i really appreciate the hard work that goes in to it.Could you enlighten with why you think kenny wont play johnson on the right wing ? Seeing as we have young talented kelly who can easily fill his boots at right fuullback. cheers eds
hunty morecambe. {Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}
Young Toni Silva has gone out on loan to Northampton Town, where he apparently scored last night. It would be great if he got a go in the first team next season.
Kelly at FB and Silva on the wing.
There could be several top kids coming through in the next couple of years.
The Real KB
I have just been reading about young Toni Silva making his debut against AFC Wimbledon. He didn't score but he went on a mazy run beating three players before the keeper saved his shot but someone followed it up.
He had a good game apparently - have been trying to find some video but all I could find was on the LFC website and I am not a member.
JRG
They showed the northampton goal on sky sports today when they were doing their league review. I'm from northampton and know a few people who were at the game last night and are absolutely buzzing about him saying he made the difference last night to a team that have been lacking class or confidence all season
15 Feb 2012 00:10:05
Hi Eds do you know if Flannagan is still being tested at centre mid? He's been playing very well in the reserves at right back recently. {Ed001's Note - I believe that they think his time in midfield has improved his understanding of his role in the team. I expect him to revert to right back now.}
His score of goal may make him next striker :)
r-r
14 Feb 2012 23:40:57
Why did my mrs go mental when I put the Istanbul DVD on tonight? I tried to explain that it was more romantic than some of the romcoms she likes, but No! I'm the bad guy!
Ultra red
No mate, im the bad guy i left my Mrs of 4yrs today ooooosssh!
KNEE JERK
P.S No joke
Women just havn't evolved as much
Through the Storm
Thats a bit harsh aint it knee jerk? Cuda done it a week or two either side. Anyway how'd she take it?
KiwiRed
Hey KNEE JERK do you think your actions may have been a bit of a, well you know, knee jerk?
Chris in Tamworth
Did you offer her a handshake before she left or did she slightly lower her hands?
Dont u mean 4 seasons
That will teach her for getting you that signed Wayne Rooney picture for valentines day.
JRG
Schoolboy error KNEE JERK. You should have done it a day or two earlier and saved on the price of a card, flowers and chocolate. There are only four beneficially correct weeks in the Calendar on which to bin your lady - the week before her birthday, the week before Valentine's Day, the week before Christmas and the week after your own birthday. Any other time and you're just throwing money away. Learn your lesson young man or you'll always be in the reserves, never in the First 11.
Sean.
Correct Sean my birthday is 8th Feb, there was no handshake but she took objection to me jumping up and down celebrating in front of her.
KNEE JERK
P.S there was no cards or choclates, just a heavy dose of reality.
KNEE JERK
14 Feb 2012 23:39:12
Reina
Kelly
Carra
Coates
Aurelio
Henderson
Adam
Downing
Shelvey
Maxi
Bellamy
Doni, Johnson, Skrtel, Spearing, Downing, Suarez, Carroll
LOL How can downing be on the starting lineup and subs bench. But would start him anyway. I would like to put kuyt as lone striker instear of bellamy to make sure he is ready to play Carling cup final.
AJ
There's no m/w game and certain players need time together. Try this lineup.
Reina
Kelly - Carragher - Coates - Robinson
Spearing
Downing - Gerrard - Maxi
Suarez - Carroll
Subs - Doni, Enrique, Skrtel, Henderson, Shelvey, Kuyt, Bellamy
Through the Storm
Gerrard nowhere to be seen?
No Spearing thanks