Liverpool Banter Archive June 15 2013

15 Jun 2013 22:57:58
Liverpool agree £18m deal to sign Mkhitaryan

That would be splendid

15 Jun 2013 21:53:01
borini with a nice winning goal! hope he stays fit for next season! could be one to watch!

Cheers

Agreed.

Yeah well done Borini. I have a feeling this guy could be the surprise of the season if he stays fit.
Strootman was everywhere again.
But I have been asking about Leroy Fer for about 18 months now, IMO we need a another quality DM, and thislad looks good. Anyone know why the Everton deal fell through in January?

Issues with his knee on the medical I think

15 Jun 2013 21:39:27
Malouda & Santa Cruz both on a free has got to strengthen the squad

15 Jun 2013 22:10:16
Wasn't it bringing in too many older players on frees that messed the squad up in the first place?

Has-beens on high wages. Makes zero sense.

cozinoz

Ya know wat, I actually forgot all about Santa Cruz, he use to be a beast of a player. what happened?
Gaz b

He is just a mouse of a player now.

The real AG

There on a free because their wages are massive, their age, and there not great.

15 Jun 2013 21:24:13
i honestly think that suarez has done worse to LFC with his whole 'leaving scenario' than torres ever did. torres didn't make a huge huge fuss about it and he said that there was something behind the scenes gone wrong e. g. a broken promise etc. what's suarez's issue with LFC, our great club, that he is making us a laughing stock

Young Baller

It was the timing which pissed us off with torres, at least luis has given notice and time so we don't waste money in a panic buy again

15 Jun 2013 21:18:56
Aspas looks a skillfull and fiery player with an eye for goal. Made up we have the option to play him on the right or up front when needed looks a very decent addition to the team, a Bellamy/Maxi type and we should judje him by how he performs for us and not his price tag or profile. BR knows what he is doing, Sturridge and Coutinhio were amazing signings. Allen was fantastic early into the season so maybe his shoulder injury affected him more than he thought it would. I cannot wait for the start of the season now. Gutted that Suarez looks like he's leaving but we will always be more than a single player, Liverpool will always have new idols and some have loytalty and dignity. let's get behind all the new signings, let's support them and see what they can do!

Very good post and positive. Just hope we get the armenian in the next few weeks. If suarez does go this summer we will get another attacker maybe gomez or villa.

Ynwa

15 Jun 2013 21:06:21
I hope we sign Honda and he wears the number 50

I would rather a Toyota and number 51

For the younger fans I belive this post refers to a rather embarrassing excuse for a motorbike that was called a moped.
You must be as old as me Irishred!LOL

Livern01

Ha ha yeah unfortunately my first motor bike was a Honda 50

15 Jun 2013 21:03:35
luis Alberto. deal done, medical next week, 100% FACT

I like the name fact.

15 Jun 2013 21:01:02
Hi eds, is there any chance of Álvaro Morata joining Liverpool as part of the Luis Suarez deal if he joins Real Madrid? {Ed030's Note - I doubt it mate. }

15 Jun 2013 20:59:35
Really hope reina don't go to arsenal would be gutted to see him go to our rivals! Wouldn't be right

London red

Agreed, it would be terrible to see him at Arsenal!

The scary thing is, he nearly signed for them a few years back! And if I'm not mistaken, its only down to someone on the Arsenal end who messed up the negotiations at the time.

And of course, they have CL football this season.

I could actually see this happening unfortunately

15 Jun 2013 20:50:26
I love ed002 long time. seriously tho. how can anyone criticise u for your valid and lucid criticism on the DF.

15 Jun 2013 20:38:14
Eds fellow reds, just been checking out Luis Alberto, looks promissing young lad, if there is one point against the kid he is very right footed.

Aspas looks all left footed if that is your way of looking at it

15 Jun 2013 20:19:56
I've just got a funny feeling were going to get shafted over Suarez when he eventually goes.

15 Jun 2013 19:52:03
luis alberto. deal done, medical next week, 100%

15 Jun 2013 19:39:39
If you guys get Mignolet then you will have signed the best goalkeeper in the premier league. The guy was unbelievable last season. Good luck to Migs and you guys next season

Dissapointed safc fan

What do you think of his ability to deal with corners and use his feet though? that is my only concern with him. because reina is a very decent player with his feet.

Danny

Would be happy with Mignolet, agree; think he's just about the best young keeper in the Premier.
His signing could just increase the chance of persuading Benteke to join, if we lose Suarez?

Nice to see, even though he is leaving you appreciate what he has done! Sunderland will always have a soft spot for me as the greatest manager ever was born close by! Good luck to you
John Wigan

Quick question. has he EVER caught a ball? It worries me

Red Viking

Dissapointed Sunderland fan here again. Migs is still young and will make mistakes from time to time but without him Sunderlamd would be playing championship football this season. Seriously this guy could be the difference between top four or not. Signing of the season for me and I know you guys will agree come May 2014

15 Jun 2013 19:29:28
Liverpool looking to add goals from the Midfield. Its been lacking from some time on. If we managed to sign the Armenian lad he could add the goals we missing from Gerrard of Old and with Gerrard, coutinho Liverpool may have sum goals which will be an Improvement.

Goals missing from Gerrard? He's scored 98 since 98 lol that's an average of less than 10 a season and he's scores 10 a season for 3 years running so I don't believe we are missing goals from him per se. He also had his highest number of assists in 5 years too so rather than missing his goals, he's actually improved!

Same Gerrard

Different position NOW!

People worry about the loss of players like torres and suarez stop and think why they play football miles away from home and in a foreign country its all about the money time to worry is when our stars like stevie go. red mick tag.

15 Jun 2013 19:12:18
Hi Ed002,
what Suarezs is doing is a disgrace to this wonderful club. Sell him ASAP or make him rot on the bench for the rest of his contract. Torres and Suarez have been great but haven`t been devoted striker after all. Pity, both could have been one of the best, most admired and loved in Liverpool`s history. +45m and get rid of Suarez once for all.

Evening Tom. I fear you may have problems selling Suarez for anything like the money he would (and is) worth if he could and would act in an adult fashion. Can't really see too many sides wanting to pay a high price for someone who could continue to be a loose cannon. I certainly expect him to go, but being realistic I suggest anything over £30m would be a bonus.

"most admired and loved in Liverpool`s history"

Will never be suarez or Torres

Will always be the King with Gerrard next

I would keep him, until the January window, as now, other clubs will try and get him on the cheap, in January, prices can be a bit inflated, and we can sell at a much better price, we need to take a hard stance with Suarez, and clubs like Real Madrid.
redforever

Tom will be closer to the price.

30m? he's a 50 mil player easy in today's market. I don't care about his temperament, he's a masterful footballer.

Got to agree, the more he spouts the less we will get! A shame really, great player terrible attitude
John Wigan

Erm, time to stop getting shafted by other clubs. If Madrid, Bayern, PSG or whoever won't pay his market value, which I believe to be at least £40 million, then he's got to stay, unhappy or not.

He will sulk a bit i'm sure, but he'll have to live with it and I believe that he's professional enough to still be an asset.

And to those who believe that this is a naive and unworkable approach, then I point you to Daniel Levy and Spurs, who have taken this kind of stance regularly, and either get their desired price or keep hold of their player for at least another season.

Dave's dog. {Ed002's Note - Are you not regretting writing the words "he's professional enough"?}

We can't sell him for 30m if bale is attracting real madrid for 85m suarez even with his antics has got to be worth at the very least 65m {Ed002's Note - It has nothing to do with Bale.}

We'll only know when he pulls on that red shirt won't we. But yes I believe that he would get his head down, put in a shift, and earn his wages. I think he is too professional to down tools or refuse to play.

Granted his antics now are a bit lousy, but it is classic flirting with a potential suitor, a practice that is as old as god's dog.

He's not the first and won't be the last. I'm sure I remember Ronaldo expressing similar sentiments post season regarding Madrid, then going back to United and giving his all.

Liverpool need to be strong on this, I believe.

Dave's dog

I believe that rather than setting just a price on LS we should set a date as well. Communicate this clearly with Luis and be strong with it. It is clear that Real (and the other suitors) will leave it right to the end of the transfer window (like they did with Owen) which completely stitches us up. The board need to decide if they can afford to buy a replacement 'in case' he leaves and then doesn't or not.

Just in reply to ed002s note (its got nothing to do with bale) have you not heard the word comparison, I was simply saying if bale is worth 85m then suarez is worth at least 65m {Ed002's Note - The price of Bale is of no relevance to the matter at all. Nothing. Nada. Zip.}

15 Jun 2013 19:15:55
Just a thought looking at signings Aspas more or less and toure and possibly mignolet anyone else hoping rodgers is seeing this transfer window to add depth more than improve the first team squad?

Dont get me wrong they all look like good signings but Mignolet isn't better than reina, toure isn't better than carragher and aspas doesn't look like he we will set the world on fire. Just a little conserned if rodgers see these people as starting XI not sure if they have enough quality to really push for that top 4 slot. If for rotation/squad player then ill be happy

Mignolet is one of the best gk's in the EPL and Aspas can cover well and play instead of Downing on the right wing

Only new signings can be judged once in action. I think you will be suprised.

Mignolet is better than reina. kolo, unfortunately, is better than carra.

15 Jun 2013 19:05:55
Borini starts:) Good chance to see him in a big game!

Malak

15 Jun 2013 19:37:45
aaand his 1st contribution for his team is a yellow card on the 5th minutes.

Oh really? Now this will be interesting! Go on Fabio! :)

15 Jun 2013 21:09:59
What a goal son! Get in there:)

Malak

Very classy finish Fabio!

15 Jun 2013 18:29:36
suarez. is only highlighting how immature he is. and basically a brat

the fact is he can't take it, when he gets punished for HIS ACTIONS. and its clear he can't handle not playing for the first 6 games of the season so he wants to escape his ban

no class by continuing to run his mouth to the media

surely guys if you were a current lfc player. youd be a little peed off with his constant comments.

if I was brendan LET SUAREZ SWEAT. and don't give in to his demands and tantrums
then sell him to the highest bidder

red lobster

I've been working so I've just heard about his latest comments. He really is a DF (as Ed002 would say). I don't give a damn where he goes now tbh. the ungratful little s*it!

Kenny lost his job and the other players backed him for what?! Defending this pr*Ick?!

I shouldn't even be suprised. he nearly went to Juve last summer!

Btw, I'm in the pro Aspas camp. he looks a skillled and talented player! Hope his transfer goes through okay!

The simple fact is he is worth a load of money, we are not Man City and we can't afford to stck him in the reserves. We need him playing and not embarrising the club or we need rid quickly so we can prepare for next season without him.
The problem now is the whole world knows this, they know he wants a move and they will bid knowing we can't afford to keep him like this.
Theres also the issue that any clubs that were a bit worried about his reputation and bad publicity he brings will not exactly feel better by all this.

Of course, he may come back for pre-season, go on the tour and see we are a huge club and decide he's happy, and that it was just the last couple of months that got him down.
I've given up trying to work out what goes through his head.

15 Jun 2013 17:51:40
My take on Saurez mess at the moment is that I'm delighted with the way the club are dealing with it. They said a few weeks ago "Luis Saurez is not for sale. " Saurez signed an improved contract last season that has 4 years to run. We (LFC) have no reason to sell him. There is no release clause. Only 3-5 clubs could afford to buy him (non ELP) but with all the blots on his copybook, do any of them want him. Bayern look set with their forwards, Monaco and PSG are also set. So that leaves Real and Barca. They way Saurez has been courting Real will probably put Barca off him although they may have a bigger need for him than Real. With Cavani eyeing up Real they may not even bid on Saurez.
So this is a perfect time for LFC to make a stand. Play hardball and make Saurez put in a transfer request. Put a price (say 55M) on him and a deadline to complete the transfer and if we don't get what we want continue on as is. Bring in our own targets and see where Saurez fits into the picture after his ban. Saurez is an edge of the seat player and one of the most exciting to have ever played for us but this is an opportunity for us as a club to gain some respect back on the transfer front. Nobody should be able to use our club as a stepping stone to 2-3 club league like La Liga. I for one am really excited about Coutinho, Sturridge, and with Aspas and possibly Mickey Ryan joining, we'll still be a great attacking force next season. Shore up the defense (hope it's Papadopolous) and add DM cover and go with lads that want to play for Liverpool Football Club. Top 4 is a must and they we'll be able to attract that elite talent when we have CL football. Meantime carry on and make a stand. No one player is bigger than our club. {Ed002's Note - There are plenty of other clubs who could afford him and at least two that have interest you have not mentioned.}

Your animated angst on the Suarez saga is very out-of-character otherwise for these pages ed002?
The Juicer {Ed002's Note - So what was incorrect about what I said here? It is hopeless when all I get is people fucking moaning.}

You forgot about Italy ( Juve ), Russia and even the English sides.

You have to acknowledge Athletico Madrid in all of this. They seem to be second in my list of competitors for Suarez. If Real don't go for him, Athletico may just.

What happened to the "transient employee" line that you usually trot out, or does that not apply to Senor Suarez?
The Juicer {Ed002's Note - If you want to stand up and support Suarez and tell everyone it is Liverpool in the wrong and that is why he spends his time dragging the name of the club through the mud and being as embarrassing as possible - then that is just fine with me? Alternatively, why not blame FSG like others are keen to do - because they obviously haven't given Suarez the support he needs? I can't do anything without whining little bitches like you coming out of the woodwork and trying to make it about anything other than the little runt himself. And he is about to become another transient employee of the club - proving that point as well.}

It's nice to know that we can rely on your moral guardianship ed and the next time I'm at The Bridge, I look forward to reading your sermon in the programme notes.
The Juicer

The Juicer
Nobody is forcing Suarez to come out with the crap he is spouting. No one is putting a gun to his head. He's a terrific footballer but he is a few sandwiches short of a picnicif you ask me. He won't be hear next year so we have to get used to it. Ed002 has more insight than you or I will ever have and he calls it as he see it.

Ed 02
By swearing you are lowering yourself to being a part of some of the unidentified people that come on the site who have strange opinions and stranger hopes. Chill out, have a glass of your favourite tipple and relax. I work with people who can't think for themselves everyday and they ask "what should I do" it's frustrating.
If I swore at them I would be in big trouble. {Ed002's Note - Try not to look like a complete flake.}

15 Jun 2013 17:49:22
Likely outs are looking to be.

L. Suarez. 45-50 million.
A. Carroll. 15 million.
S. Downing. 8-10 million.
J. Shelvey. 5-7 million.
S. Coates. 5-7 million.
M. Skrtle. 10-15 million.

This will roughly bring in 88-104 million, along with a substantial amount off the wagebill. Likely ins are looking at being.

T. Ilori. 4-6 million.
H. Mhktarin. 20-25 million.
L. Alberto 6-8 million.
This roughly comes to between 30-39 million leaving a good amount of money for more players. There's still a possibility that Real may throw in a player as part of Suarez deal also.

K. Toure (free).
I. Aspas 7-8 million.
Are already agreed deals and the Alberto deal seems to be pretty much tied up too.

We'd still need another defender or two with the above sales. I'd love either of Alderweireld or Papadopulos which would set us back in the region of 10-16 million. Lucas Digne would be my other choice who would cost roughly 10 million.

Sanchez of Barca would be another player I'd love us to sign. He does seem to want to stay at Barca but if we could persuade him he'd be an excellent signing. Other possibles seem to be from the below.

C. Eriksen. Although seems less and less likely as weeks go by. Would love him to sign but signs don't look good.

L. Muriel. Looks an excellent player and even if he did have work permit issues. I'd buy him for the reported 12-15 million fee, and leave him on loan at Udinese for another season.

K. Honda. Been talked and talked about, and in his current situation of having only months left on his deal. Still worth Rodgers having a look at him for a nominal fee.

And how much have you budgeted for the fact we have been running up massive debts since the owners took over, and we still have to pay for the stadium work?
This is quite simple, if we don't get champions league we can't afford to operate, we need to invest in the stadium to increase the income and we have to keep the size of the debt down to minimize the interest payments. It's time people realise that we just can't afford to run with some of the players they want.

Interesting post and full of confidence.
Put a name so we know who you are

Livern01

15 Jun 2013 17:37:48
ed's sorry if u been asked this question so many but is mignolet close to a fee being agreed thanks in advance lfc-ullah

15 Jun 2013 17:30:52
Not a rumour, but rather a question for the eds: how does the "transfer request" process work. What is the difference between just saying you want to transfer vs placing a formal request? What are the negatives for a player/club in placing a transfer request?

Thanks-

Ps- this site is catching on in the states {Ed002's Note - A player requesting a transfer gives up his entitlement to 5% of the transfer fee.}

15 Jun 2013 17:18:38
Can u clear something up please eds, its rumoured that Liverpool have a sell on clause from the sale of tom ince to blackpool. if the fee being quoted to interested clubs is 8m and Liverpool still maintain an interest in the player (?) would lfc be forced to pay the same as say spurs or palace?
Andy Mac {Ed002's Note - I have no idea what the deal is. Sorry.}

15 Jun 2013 17:09:20
On a scale of 1 to 10. how bad do you guys want to sock luis suarez.

The new outlash towards the club is probably because the club have told him to shut the hell up and that he won't be for sale this summer at least. God as a huge fan of his, I am just pissed off now.

15 Jun 2013 17:43:26
15

Malak

I had a crazy dream last night that I asked Luis for a picture and he went crazy once he found out I was a Liverpudlian and chased me away. He is giving me bad dreams already. please get rid! LOL

15 Jun 2013 16:56:52
Hi Eds,

I was just wondering if Liverpool have scouts at the
u-21 championships?

Also is that Alberto lad with Spain at the tournament?

Finally (sorry for the bombardment), do you expect us to actively try and sell that person Suarez following his latest outburst?

Thanks for your time and keep up the good work. {Ed002's Note - I don't know about club employees being there but I am sure there has been some level of representation. I don't think Alberto will be there.}

15 Jun 2013 16:37:35
Latest comments by suarez

"First I have a contract with the club, but if one day I want to sign (for another club), Liverpool will hear the offer, as it does with other players, " he is quoted ontv as telling Spanish newspaper Marca. "They must agree with other teams, but the word of the player, in this case mine, is important. If you need a change, you should listen to the player. "Every player aspires (to be the best) and if you ask a child of eight years they would say one day they would go to Real Madrid or Barcelona. "

At last he is telling the truth and not the usual ####

What do you think Eds {Ed002's Note - I think a child of 8 has translated it. Suarez is a jerk. The sooner the club are rid of him the better.}

If someone asked my I would say I want to play for Liverpool

Hounsred

Sell the person, he obviously don't care a hoot about lfc. Same old rubbish "everybodies dream" quote when moving to another club. Fact of the matter is we have`nt won shyte whilst suarez been with us as he was banned for most of the league cup. We`ll be fine without him and his drama.

Actually I don't think Suarez is right in the head, I mean who bites another player, twice!
But it does have to be understood that for South and central American players there is Real Madrid and there is Barcelona, and then there is everyone else.

15 Jun 2013 16:26:04
Does anybody get the feeling that Suarez's next tactic will be to go on strike?

More like "I'm not playing with you any more", picking up his ball and his school jacket he was using as a goalpost and stropping off.

15 Jun 2013 16:21:27
Iago Aspas scored more goals this season than Benzema, Villa, Di Maria and Fabregas. And he was in a team struggling against relegation.
Just wait till he has a Liverpool shirt on till we decide about him. i'm already excited, and I can't understand all the negativity towards a player who has not even kicked a ball for us yet.

Agree mate

He was also directly involved in 51% of all celta vigo's goals last season.

A I suppose your going to be challenging for the title with players like this lol,
manmike

Aspas also created more goal scoring opportunites (something like 70 or 80) which was more than either Messi or Ronaldo last season

Look at downing stats before he came to us says it all stats are in the past if your good enough your good enough that's it

I'm looking forward to seeing him play and the stats are certainly encouraging, can't wait to see who else Brendan and co have lined up.

I think couple of decent signings at the back and mkhitaryan and I see no reason why we can't push for some sort of European football, I'd love champions league but even Europa would be a big improvement and a step in the right direction.

But Barcelona fi8nished 1st and second in La Liga and made the semi finals of the champions league as well. Liverpool finished 7th and are not in europe next season. Celta vigo is a massive step up to Liverpool and also the prem league. I hope he succeeds but us Liverpool fans can't afford to make him out to be better than Suarez before a ball is kicked either

Sorry Kam your post doesn't make sense! John Wigan

15 Jun 2013 15:51:55
Eds fellow reds, just read Suarez telling LFC to let him go for less than £40million and he is in the driving seat. Well as I see the club have him signed to a four year contract he's our best player last year we pay his wages that put the club in the driving seat IMO so I would up the price now to get right up his goat £50million to any club or £65million to Real Madrid.

I agree with you in that LFC surely hold all the cards.

If our valuation of Suarez (we should hold out for at least £50mil) is not met then he will have to stay put. If he wants to get funny then we can just bench him. Seeing as he will need game time for the sake of playing in the world cup, he will have no other option but to work his socks off for us on the pitch.

So whether he goes for say £50mil or stays with the club its a win win for us IMO.

One question I do have which I hope someone can answer is: If he hands in a transfer request, are we obliged to sell him or can we say no your under a contract lad?

Crowman. {Ed002's Note - There is no obligation to sell him, but obviously he took a previous club to court over their unwillingness to sell him.}

Not going to help him in court if the club decide to slowly drag it through the courts.
I say sell him to highest bidder in Ukraine or Russia let's see how much he really needs to leave then.

15 Jun 2013 15:48:05
Suarez's behavior is nothing short of disgraceful at the moment. Yet another interview in which he asks for a transfer.

15 Jun 2013 16:03:32
{Ed030's Note - Just to let you know the editors poll page will have a new poll on every other day so please be sure to keep checking the page the latest poll is whether Liverpool will finish top 4 you can vote at http://www.liverpool-rumours.co.uk/liverpool-editor-blog.php Thanks. }

15 Jun 2013 15:18:57
Heya Eds.

How about Rolando Bianchi from Torino? Is only 30 and has been an absolute colossus for them for the past couple of years.

Is a free agent and I think would be a steal. He didn't get on with Sven at City and might relish the chance for another crack at EPL as he's clearly good enough. Has anyone enquired?

And what do the FA usually do with the WCQ on in September and October? Make some more midweek fixtures or spread them out or will teams have to rest their England players and just tough it out? {Ed030's Note - I doubt it. }

15 Jun 2013 15:13:32
question for the ED's. if we were to sell suarez which players would you see as a possible 'replacement' (maybe you could do it in a list) cheers. YNWA {Ed002's Note - Try the search function - done to death.}

15 Jun 2013 15:10:43
according to tv interactive we are in agreement with SAFC over the signing of Mignolet. reported fee 8m

15 Jun 2013 14:49:43
Hi Eds.
Thanks for a amazing website. How is it with Sturridge ankle injury? Is it clear how long he will be out for? {Ed002's Note - There has been no update.}

15 Jun 2013 14:02:05
hi eds any teams interested in Bony? {Ed002's Note - Search function.}

15 Jun 2013 13:47:56
Why would it be so unlikely for Luis Muriel to get a work permit for England? Is it due to a lack of international caps? Surely if Coates and Coutinho fall under the "special talent" bracket then Luis Muriel would. If Suarez leaves he is without a doubt the outstanding target to replace him in my eyes. I would not like to see the club sign Benteke. It would be Andy Carroll part 2.
The Gooch {Ed002's Note - I don't know who has said it is "unlikely" but for now he does not meet the criteria. It is nothing to do with Coutinho or Coates.}

Some of the Eds have repeatedly said it is unlikely he would get a work permit. I don't agree. A fine player.
The Gooch {Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath.}

Luis Muriel would certainly be an ideal and affordable signing once we have sold Suarez, he plays similar to him and is an exceptional talent.

{Ed002's Note - Liam you are still an embarrassing and delusional little shit - please leave the site alone. We had all of your bullshitting about how you and your friends at the internet police are going to shut the site down. We are still awaiting them kicking the door in. Clearly your lack of understanding of the English language is making you struggle with the definition of the word "unlikely". Everyone is sick of you - as many of the posters have explained to you before.}

Oddly enough - I think neither coates or coutinho have a work permit, coates being half scottish and coutinho has an Italian passport apparently.

Elliott Paisley

YNWA

15 Jun 2013 13:34:29
Ed030, what do you think about Mignolet as a replacement to Reina? And are we really 'close' to sign him?

Cheers {Ed030's Note - I think he is a good shot stopper and has good reflexes,I think he will sign for Liverpool but that is just my opinion. }

Have we officially bid for him yet? Or what the Sunderland echo, Sky tyne and wear and tv is utter BS? {Ed030's Note - I am unsure mate,But we are certainly interested. }

The real questio Ed is, is he a direct replacement or competition ( long term replacement )? {Ed030's Note - I don't know mate but Arsenal look like they could go back in for Reina . }

15 Jun 2013 13:24:15
Eds matter of opinion question.
Is simon mignolet a good choice and do you rate him? {Ed030's Note - I rate him mate but I am unsure if he is an upgrade on Reina. }

15 Jun 2013 13:20:32
i think we should tell real madrid if they want suarez they have to agree to our 50 million price and has to be done at last 4 weeks b4 end of transfer window so we don't end up left with no time to get new players!

You expecting a replacement then? ever thought he has put a squad together expecting him to leave. You seen how much the Amenian lad is costing us?

The Armenian lad as you put it was a keen purchase before the suarez news broke and the fee is not dependant on suarez going.
im not saying the full 40- 50 million we might get for suarez will be spent but will be surprised if 25 million was not used on a big striker to replace him

15 Jun 2013 13:15:23
Mkjitaryans goal record is quality for a midfielder, hope we get him! Also, what formation do you guys think well play next season?

15 Jun 2013 13:36:08
I hope we get him as well.

I think we will be playing 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-2-1 depending on the opponents!

Malak

A sort of 4-3-3, with Mkhitaryan in front of Gerrard & Lucas in the middle three.

RedKopite

So you would put Coutinho back at LW / inside forward RedKopite? Interesting, I though Coutinho really came alive in that CAM role and his ability to unlock tight defences really came to the fore in the later part of the season. For me the Armenian lad, if signed, would be used in one of the wider roles. Much like the dynamic Mata and Hazard have at Chelsea with Mata occupying the central berth and Hazard pushed further wide. I understand any of these positions need to be fluid when both attacking and defending although from a conventional setup this is what I would expect.

Ciario80

Mkhitaryan would be a quality addition to our team, since he scores a lot of goals from midfield, something the team has been lacking since Stevie started playing deeper. A front 3 of Sturridge, Coutinho and a new signing, with Mkhitaryan playing behind them would guarantee lots of goals. Still not convinced by Aspas though. Hope he turns out to be the next Michu or whatever.

A fluid 4-2-3-1

4-3-2-1, the old Christmas Tree?

Andy K

15 Jun 2013 13:09:10
Just reading with the interest cooling in Papa the Greek, will Sakho be seen as an alternative?

Any chance of Biglia signing?

Good to see Rodgers is getting his transfer business done early should mean a settled squad for the kick off of the new season.

One final thought I hope Suarez stays but if 50m plus is received he will be sold and if can screw Real for 70 well nice knowing you Suarez.

A cup and CL qualification next year! {Ed030's Note - I don't see Liverpool bidding for Sakho,No interest in Biglia from Liverpool atm mate. }

15 Jun 2013 13:01:23
Liverpool are thought to be close to completing the signing of Simon Mignolet from Sunderland, according to tv Sport.

Surely spells the end fro Barcelona bound Reina.

15 Jun 2013 12:50:14
People on here keep stating we should convince Pepe to stay. In reality 3 months into last season over 50% plus on here, would have been delighted to see the back of him. He's been pretty patchy for almost 2 years and cost us an awful lot of points in that time.

No doubting since the turn of the year his form inproved, as did our defence. He started to look like the player of old and he is vital to the dressing room. But the fact remains that he's still a shadow of his former self, he's on a monstrous wage and if Barca want him then he's hardly going to say no.

We're building a younger side and I'll be more and happy to bring in a highly talented and experienced 24 year old, who can grow and develop with the rest of our coming of age side. Mignolet may not be as glamorous as the German names thrown around here. But he's proven in the league, is a Truely great shot stopper and seems to be improving all the time.

It's hard to let players go we once loved, but in reality Pepe is far from world class now and we will move on successfully without him.

Papa G

Agree with Papa on this one. Mignolet is a good keeper and has got it all to succeed at Liverpool.

What Papa G said.

Nevada (I think) posted statistical analysis the other day which showed Reinas constant decline over the last few seasons; I think it's time for a keeper change.

One who is significantly younger and can stay here for a very long time.

SR (StrabaneRed)

Great post. Obviously Pepe is a legend in my eyes and he has given the club great service but I believe this represents a great bit of business by Liverpool if we sell Pepe for a decent fee and replace him with Mignolet who will only be getting better and was probably the best keeper in the league last season, definitely the most consistent. These are deals that represent the modern footballing world. after all they are businesses at the end of the day.
The Gooch

15 Jun 2013 13:32:30
So you yourself admit since the turn of the year he has returned to his former self?
Why would Barcelona want him if he is so far behind what he once was?
Don't you think that maybe all the changes in Liverpool from Benitez to Hodgson (Dear God) to King K. Daglish to BR may have been unsettling and a direct reason to his inconsistent performances? And that his form has improved a lot since he is finally settled again under BR?
I have nothing against us signing Mignolet as he can be a great GK, but A. Madrid has signed Courtouis on loan for another season so they won't be interested and Valdes will stay for the remainder of his contract. So Reina will probably stay, for 1 more season and Mignolet will be fantastic competition and a long term replacement but he needs a season to settle and learn from Reina. Reina & Mignolet is for me much better than Reina & Jones and much much better than Mignolet & Jones.

Malak

Malak, there is no way Mignolet would come to us if Reina is staying. Both keepers would want to play every game to impress their national coaches ahead of the World Cup. I think Reina is off, which is a shame. I agree with u that Reina's poor form has mainly been due to constant shuffling in our backline as well as different managers who like to play different style of football.
Personally, I would keep Reina and send Mignolet out on loan next season, if BR wants him so badly. Neither would be content to sit on the bench.

15 Jun 2013 15:13:00
Good point Buzzer, I guess iam so biased and only want what's best for Liverpool.

Malak

I'm one of those who wanted Reina gone 6 months ago due to long term bad form but he improved a lot and had a good 2nd half to the season. I'd love to see him stay now, if he returns to his old self he's top top class. I think his loss of form could be from years of being promised the world from the likes of Hicks & Gillett's reign - maybe he's seen our improvement under Rodgers and that might have helped reignite his passion!

If he does go to Barca then fair enough he's been fabulous for us overall and the best of luck to him. Mignolet would be a good replacement if he does go - we'd need to work on his kicking but ya be happy enough with him if Reina wants to go.

Now that Mr Edd 2 has confirmed my original post does anyone know what formation we will be playing. With this 12 players rule change will it affect our transfer targets??

red walter

15 Jun 2013 15:59:50
Haha, are you serious red walter?
The ed was joking because you asked a kukuuu question! Geez man!

Malak

15 Jun 2013 12:41:16
eds do you think we will sign mignolet?

15 Jun 2013 12:10:37
Liverpool are close to securing a deal to sign Belgium goalkeeper Simon Mignolet from Sunderland.
Although the Anfield club have offered £8m and Sunderland's asking price is £10m, an agreement is expected to be reached in the coming days.
The 24-year-old has played 101 games since joining from Belgian club St Truiden for £2m in June 2010.
Liverpool's current first-choice keeper Pepe Reina has been linked with a move to Spanish champions Barcelona.

He'd be a very good signing imo; I've noticed he is the best in the league at knocking the ball away from dangerous area when parrying the ball.

Not sure if he knows how to catch the ball though.

SR (StrabaneRed)

15 Jun 2013 11:58:37
Hey eds and reds, just wondering why a lot of people think that Xabi is too old to come back? If he isn't to come back I do hope we get someone with experience, a Gary Mcallister type of player. {Ed030's Note - I doubt Alonso will sign for Liverpool this summer. }

We already have experience in Gerrard and Lucas and only play 3 in midfield. Where would Xabi play? Lucas/Xabi/Stevie wouldn't work anymore.

We need a quality AM and I hope we get Mkhitaryan in to play in front of Lucas & Stevie.

I've heard that Xabi will be at SG's testimonial. Owen, Fowler, maybe Torres too. It's on telly as well now.
The Juicer

Torres, fowler, Gerrard, Xabi all at there peak in the same side. time to wake up I drifted off there for a while.

Yes torres will be tied to a pole outside anfield, the price will be £15 for 3 stones all proceeds will go the the steven gerrard foundation.

15 Jun 2013 11:42:34
looks like Mignolets coming were does that leave Pepe then after we thought he was now staying?

thanks {Ed030's Note - This has been answered numerous times today already,Read the posts. }

15 Jun 2013 11:20:29
Eds great work u must be neckerd
Is it true Liverpool have agreed a deal for mkhitaryan {Ed030's Note - Not yet. }

Hey ed030 doesn't that imply we are close to agreeing a deal? Thanks {Ed030's Note - No mate,But we are interested. }

15 Jun 2013 11:01:05
Hey. I've read that were not longer trying to sign Papadopoulous. He is to expensive. And now when Lovren is off to Southampton. Who do u think will be the signing for the defence? {Ed002's Note - See previous answers.}

How about we just keep what we have and buy Ilori

Skrtel
Agger
Kelly
Toure
Wisdom
ilori
Jones

15 Jun 2013 10:51:03
Am I now banned ed02? {Ed002's Note - No but your posts are rubbish - and it was posted so you need to stop whining like a nine year old girl.}

Christ, I never thought i'd post rubbish things as harry scousser.

Harry's not that bad mate - sometimes he's very entertaining

Slagging off others is bad form, look at yourself first why did your posts not get posted!

15 Jun 2013 13:20:22
Harry just seems to be a bit stuck in the past and that most his football knowledge comes from fifa doesn't help either!

I don't see a problem with being stuck in the past

Puzzled

I don't see a problem with being stuck in the past

Puzzled

{Ed002's Note - The original post was asking folks to guess at who Liverpool would be playing first next season.}

15 Jun 2013 14:06:18
How can you move forward if you are stuck in the past?
Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery and today is a gift, that's why its called the present!
At least try to enjoy it:)

Malak

Such poetry

Where's my Oscar Wilde?

IF you ignore the past you fook up the future


Nah that was Brendan Behan

15 Jun 2013 10:37:03
Strong rumors from local papers from both Sunderland and Armenia that the Mignolet and Mikhtaryan deals are edging closer, at 10 and 20 million respectively.
Eds, if Reina is to stay, is Mignolet really an option for a rotation keeper?

Drigan {Ed030's Note - Both players are of interest to Liverpool,Liverpool have released two goalkeepers and Jones might be on his way so possibly. }

Hmm, I get Armenia Today delivered every morning and I didn't see that article.

You should of picked the Armenian Chronicle geezer a damn site better, a more thorough read, and 25 zonque cheaper than the rest

15 Jun 2013 10:10:18
Madrid have a reputation for unsettling players then paying well below the odds just to take a unhappy player away from the club he currently plays for, expect no offer for Suarez from RM until transfer window nearly closes

If that's the case, then Mr Ayre should tell Mr Perez to f*** off. Suarez is our player with a 3 year contract. We should give all interested parties a deadline to meet our asking price, failing which we should make Suarez stay, since signing too many players towards the end after we collect the cash from his sale would hamper our preparations for next season. Its high time we put an end to the dirty tricks played by madrid.

I know; they got Ronaldo and Modric for next to nothin' really didn't they?!

15 Jun 2013 11:47:40
yes I do agree. Big clubs especially barca and real, they get their players at their price.
Ronaldo did worth 80 mill. simple. he is probbaly the best I the world. they just had one bid an dit got rejected.
they got ozil for 15 mill.
Modric, yes I accept, But levy is from different planet. something Ayre has to learn from him.

Ed fulham did tried a complaint against us in the dempsy issue.

If you remember. fabrigas was biggest transfer tussle in the history. No complaints against Barca. ?

I thought Suarez signed an extension last summer which means he's here for another 4-5 years?

15 Jun 2013 11:47:40
yes I do agree. Big clubs especially barca and real, they get their players at their price.
Ronaldo did worth 80 mill. simple. he is probbaly the best I the world. they just had one bid an dit got rejected.
they got ozil for 15 mill.
Modric, yes I accept, But levy is from different planet. something Ayre has to learn from him.

Ed fulham did tried a complaint against us in the dempsy issue.

If you remember. fabrigas was biggest transfer tussle in the history. No complaints against Barca. ? {Ed002's Note - Fulham grizzled a little.}

15 Jun 2013 09:27:08
Hey ed052, whom would you pick between Alderwield and Papadopolous as a partner for Agger, and who seems a more realistic buy at the moment?

Drigan

The answer is straight forward we need Papa or someone similar to partner Agger.
Having Agger and Alderwield at CB would be suicidal especially with Lucas at DM. NO STRENGTH THERE.

15 Jun 2013 08:38:06
Who is the shaktar donestk player we what to buy and is he a realistic target? {Ed002's Note - Read the posts.}

Have you been living under a rock?

15 Jun 2013 08:09:05
Hi all

I think it is good to see that the LFC seem to be trying to do a lot of their business early and seem to have learned lessons from past mistakes, like losing out on final day transfers.
Some of the players we are being linked with are young, exciting and skillfull players, and we seem not to be paying over the odds for them either.
Hopefully can hang on to our star men and I think next season we can surprise a few people that are writing us off. (Slipping in under the radar if you like).
One concern is I think we need a midfield powerhouse to help out Stevie and Lucas.
Looking forward to the new season and the transfer window when it officially opens.
Good luck EDs and keep up the great work you lot do.

15 Jun 2013 07:46:16
Liverpool agree £18m deal to sign Mkhitaryan.

A deal to bring Shakhtar Donetsk midfielder Henrikh Mkhitaryan to Liverpool is all but completed with the £18million signing expected to be unveiled at Anfield in due course, a web site reports.


According to the report, the signing of Mkhitaryan is not expected to stop more names coming in, such as Sevilla midfielder Ivan Rakitic, who is wanted at Anfield to play in a deeper midfield role than the Armenian. {Ed002's Note - THis is simply not true - there remains interest as has been explained but there is no agreement at all.}

Ed, I hope you haven't answered this already but with websites and papers writing this stuff about agreements or deals nearly done etc. does it ever negatively effect our chances of getting the player i. e. other clubs then jump in, or the selling club get annoyed?

Also, with Ian Ayre seemingly annoying Celta and the Spanish FA could that jeopardise our dealings with Spanish clubs for the rest of this window?

Thanks as always

Bryan {Ed002's Note - I would not worry about it.}

Haha ed you always say "no agreement is in place" and then a few days later a deal is confirmed! {Ed030's Note - Maybe there was 'no agreement in place' when the poster asked,Have you thought of that mate? }

Hi Eds, I know it will probably get sorted, but if it is true, surely it would not look good on Ian Ayre?
I don't know much about his workings, but do you think he is competant at such dealings? {Ed002's Note - I have already explained this.}

Sorry Ed002 I can't find your comments on Ayre (I have used the search function). Never mind

15 Jun 2013 03:43:26
I think that if Suarez is sold the majority of fans (myself included) would rather a couple of young players with the potential for growth than a big name signing in his prime or on his way down, but let's look at that.
For the past 2 or 3 seasons we have had to deal with the rumour that we are not able to attract the big names that we used to and a marquee signing would speak volumes towards dispelling this rumour. Also, a big name signing would make next season's intentions clear (even though we should all already know what that is).
The truth is, whether we want to accept it or not, having more players of a certain calibre on the roster will make future signings easier and make more quality players WANT to play for us.
We've all seen the names the club has been linked with, and while they are all exciting prospects, we keep hoping they will settle quickly and make a telling mark on the league, but maybe, just maybe, we could do with a signing like Tevez, nothing needs to be said about him, we know his quality and know he'll hit the ground running. Pretty cheap too if reports are to be believed, but can we still attract such a big name player?

We have a lot of young players but the team need the kudos that star players bring to the club fact

15 Jun 2013 01:04:33
Eds, any truth in the Assaidi to Cardiff rumours? The lad is obviously very talented, but I think he lacks the intelligence ("football brain") to cut it at the top. Thanks!

-Hawaii Red {Ed002's Note - How would you know that he lacks a "football brain"?}

He has a small head

Rooney made it at the top.

Possibly by watching matches and seeing that he lacks intelligence, in terms of awareness and defensive duties (just for a start)?

Thats not "having a football brain". If he's not performing his defensive duties, he's just lacking discipline. I think assaidi needs to be loaned out to learn these kinda things as he's not getting the chance for us. He seems decent from what I've seen of him.

Lea

15 Jun 2013 13:46:38
Actually I kind of agree, he is not that bad and if we sell him we would get a minimal fee, if we loan him out we might double or tripple his value next season. The problem with that is if the player would agree to such a move or wants to go back to the Dutch league permanently.

Malak

15 Jun 2013 00:01:40
Suarez could have a change of heart and decide to stay another year if Real start dragging their heels over the fee and seeing quality players like Papa Mickey Aspas Alberto coming in.

Brad

Well that's a proper sarcasm!

I don't really think we should listen to him. We should sell him to the highest bidder ASAP. He's a huge liability for us I think and if we are to get huge money by selling him and buy players like Muriel/Lamela/Papa/MK.

Red PG

Suarez is as good as gone. Its just a matter of when and where he goes. Imo if he is so desperate to join Real, then we should demand atleast 45 million cas or 20 million plus Higuain.

So Indian Buzzer Higuain is worth more than Suarez?

Mr No Name, please read my post carefully.
Suarez = Higuain + 20 million pounds cash.