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16 Aug 2013 22:07:50
So excited about tomorrow and this season. I reckon Rogers has handled the whole Suarez thing very well. Right - imagine we win 5 out of 6 of our first games. and then Suarez would be itchin to get back playing. This season we will make top4 because Arsenal signed nobody and united will fall apart. Chelsea, City, Spurs and Liverpool. C'mon the pool!
16 Aug 2013 22:36:17
Its nearly here! Suerez stays Suerez goes Willian signs Willian does not sign it all means nothing what does mean something is we our Liverpool.
So who ever wears the red shirt we support them. come on you REDS let's win the league.
A liver bird upon my chest because we are men of Shanklys best a team that plays the Liverpool way and lifts the championship in May.
16 Aug 2013 20:26:14
Ed, Do you believe we will make any big name signing before the window closes?
We began this window looking like we had identified targets and were going to act quickly which we did.
BR then stated that he had improved the squad but still wanted a few players to improve the team( I would have thought the team players should have been targeted first)
We were then told we would not buy players just for the sake of it, ( alarm bells start to ring )
It is quite clear as it stands that transfer fee wise we have pretty much balanced the books and got some big wages of the payroll.
We continue to be linked with some top players, Costa, Willian, Sakho,
My worry is how serious are we looking now?
Dont be suprised if we make a few enquiries about players but nothing comes of it.
This could all be a way of making fans think we will make signings, but then when the window closes revert back to the won't sign players for signings sake statement and that the right players were not available. {Ed030's Note - Yes,There maybe one or two,Possibly even 3 depending on departures. }
Or it could be that we want some more in but are not willing to pay over the odds?
16 Aug 2013 19:26:51
Hi Eds,
Are Manchester United interested in Willian? {Ed030's Note - I doubt it. }
16 Aug 2013 21:56:12
Pacheco has been allocated number 12. Does this mean BR sees him in his plans for the season?
I thought Pacheco had gone to Celta?
Nope.
16 Aug 2013 21:20:35
Spurs enter the Willam race. three questions
1, Do they just follow Liverpool scouts around.
2, How many players attacking style players do they need in this position.
3, Or is this a replacement for Bale
Remember that they were interested in Willian either last summer or January so they can't be accused of 'copying' our targets.
Werent spurs interested before his anzhi move that's a worrying thought maybe its our scouts following there's arround and we only get what they don't want damn I won't sleep tonight thinking about that now lol I think ayres selling levy the scouting reports to pay for some extra sessions on the tanning beds
Really startin to dislike spurs
16 Aug 2013 23:11:57
1, no, they were after him last year and avb was after him at chelsea as well
2. not sure
3. most of their fans don't want him they would prefer lamela or eriksen
I seem to remember an interview by Harry redknapp saying his scouts had told him Suarez wouldn't hack it in the premier league and they pulled out the running! {Ed049's Note - I remember his scouts told him that Suarez cannot play as a striker}
16 Aug 2013 21:12:06
Eds, I hope you're doing fine?
Okay, I'll just let it out.Is it me or does anyone else think WILLIAN is a little overrated?
Question for you though the price is likely to be high.
does he improve our team?
I think yes. the front line is going to scare all defenses in the league. Hoping like many I would think, these draws we always seem to get will finally start to turn in to wins.
Come on Redmen! {Ed030's Note - A front four of Coutinho,Wilian,Suarez and Sturridge would be great. }
No, he's the business
Yeah, some of the earlier Black Eyed Peas stuff was catchy but I couldn't ever see me going out and buying it.
Ill be totally honest iv only ever seen him 4 times iv looked on the professional scouting channel youtube he looks great on there but so do I so can't say but the 4 times I seen him he looked a great player but I couldn't give a fair judgement on him after 4 times i'm sure there's lots of others on here seen him more than me seems a little pricey for the money but that's what he went for so i'm sure anzhi will recoup the money paid for him in would love to see turan and konoplyanka but not sure there even possible deals to do and if its true and br wants willian then so be it
Another time when Fergie became involved and I liked them less.
Andy K
Maybe.
Not forgetting Aspas Eds. I guess if Willian does come in it shows how much we've improved the quality in the squad when we can forget the likes of Aspas. I would expect Borini to go on loan if he came in too.
16 Aug 2013 20:42:35
Is it just me or do some people not realise who we now have in our squad? Gerard, Lucas, Coutinho, Suarez, Sturridge, Aspas, Alberto, Allen, Henderson, Johnson, Mignolet, Enrique, Kelly, Wisdom, Toure, Agger. and don't forget the younger lads Borini, Sterling, Ibe, Suso etc.
Guys this is a good squad already plus the addition hopefully of Cisshoko and Willian makes it a really strong squad. I make that 22 quality players who could grace any team in Europe. We are definitely heading in the right direction, with competition for places very strong.
I think we have a better and stronger balance within our squad than most of the other top teams, even though I expect City to be very strong this year. They have spent hard cash, we are building for the future, but we've made a great start already.
I think United could have a disastrous season, I just don't rate Moyesy at all, they have ridden their luck but its over now. The cycle moves on.
Dare I dream?. too right I can. Good luck to all our boys for the coming season, let's use this season as a springboard to success for the next few years.
I agree with you Tel although I have been very positive every August only to be disappointed. Some year has to buck that trend so why not this year.
Remember too, the first half of last season (new manager, bedding in, etc.) let us down but we would have made Champions League based on the second half. A good start this year and you never know. I think Chelski and Man City will be out of sight but the other spots are touchable.
Come on the Reds. 3 points tomorrow and then onwards and upwards.
Top post!
Suarez will go, Suso is on loan and I wouldn't write-off United just yet but I agree with the overall sentiment. I can also see at least one of the centre backs going, if not two, with one coming in. Also Cissokho looks likely. Bring on The Potters.
Gerrard(getting on a bit), lucas(hit and miss), coutinho(young prospect?), saurez(world class but in a strop)sturridge(hit and miss), aspas(young prospect?)alberto(nah)allen(hit and miss?)henderson(hit and miss?)johnson(nah)mignolet(average/alright), enrique(average), kelly(hit and miss), wisdom(unproven), toure(poor positioning, best days behind him)agger(injury prone, erratic)borini(nah), stirling(drifting of the rails, hasn't improved)ibe(good prospect)suso(juries out on him?) expect an up and down season with final report-average must try harder
Great post Tel.
Good luck indeed.
Sorry but, gerrard - getting on a bit (probably England's 2nd best player, just had better season than Rooney, wilshere and hart. Also pirlo is old still better than any united midfielder), Lucas - hit and miss (underrated, think we lost 1 of our last 13 and it was the game he missed, funny coincidence that), Sturridge - hit and miss (consistently scored for Liverpool, look at his goal/game ratio for us), Aspas - young prospect (is 25 so near peak of career coming of a good season, looked good pre-season and saw him at testimonial looked technically very gifted, better than downing), Alberto - young prospect (agree but looks good), Allen - hit and miss (was quality beginning of last season and than played w/injury), Henderson - hit and miss (improved massively last season England u-21 captain), Johnson - nah (agreed) mignolet - average (Sunderland player of the year? Good keeper), Enrique - hit and miss (fair enough), Kelly - hit and miss (think you're confusing hit and miss with injured always looked good when played), wisdom - unproven (dunno looked good last season), toure - poor etc (experiened league/ trophy winner good in the air, needed), agger - injury prone/erratic ( yes, so much so city bid for him and Barcelona interested, would walk into a lot of top teams), borini - nah (harsh, not amazing but looked better at the u-21 euros than any English player and has had been injured way to long to be judged), sterling - hasn't improved (understandably faded last season, only 18, but looks to have improved drastically since), ibe and suso - prospect/unsure ( funnily enough most players their age are, kinda get better past their 20s).
16 Aug 2013 19:39:42
Arsenal have zero chance if signing Suarez. Zero
16 Aug 2013 21:16:04
. no -10
Alright John Henry we heard you the first time.
16 Aug 2013 19:19:40
Lucas Leiva has just followed Willian on twitter.
Stop the world :-)
16 Aug 2013 22:34:40
where to
16 Aug 2013 19:12:58
I know this is stating the obvious here but we really do need to get of to a flying start this campaign. For the players, manager and fans sake. We don't want to be having an.early inquest in a month or so asking where it all went wrong, again. There can be no excuses this season. don't be letting us down boys.
The Irish Rover
Agree - have to get the win tomorrow - whether it's 3 nil with a fantastic Sturridge hat trick or 1 nil with a 95th minute goal courtesy of a reflection off Kolo's back side after an attempted clearance by Shawcross. Just want 3 points.
Yeah well let's not let them down either eh irish? They need us as much as we need them!
Ian the red
Def need to win tomorrow or i'll be like c. t all day
Absolutely. No more excuses. It's time to big up.
16 Aug 2013 19:00:46
If you type in 'Liverpool players' in google, and scroll right to the end on the roster thing that comes up, Malgerejo is on there.
True story.
Ha ya checked it up, maybe they forgot to announce to everyone they signed him! lol
16 Aug 2013 18:55:25
Can we please pay 35m & a pound for willian so Andy carrol isn't our transfer record please?
That's the worse logic I've ever heard!
Glad you don't run our football club!
It's called humour - at least I hope it is
16 Aug 2013 18:50:53
This is Willian talking last year who said he's a Liverpool fan? The same Willian who said he cried after Shakhtar blocked his move to Chelsea.?"I would like to move from Shakhtar, my work here is complete, " Willian said. "I would like to play in a big team in a big tournament, like the Premier League or Serie A. I like Chelsea, Milan and Inter. I have always followed the two Italian teams because my role models when I was young were Ronaldinho and Ronaldo, and they played for those teams.
16 Aug 2013 18:29:02
how likely do you think it is that a deal can be struck for willian. I'm very excited but I just don't see why he would want us over premier league clubs, I know he's a "fan" but not a die hard fan so what do you think?
For me, it's dependent quite a lot on interest from other parties. If United/whoever are willing to spend more than us and then turns into an auction (which I suspect Anzhi would be more than happy to see happen) then I think very, very little chance he'll be playing for Liverpool come September.
We are a premier league club and we are LIVERPOOL FC
16 Aug 2013 18:26:05
I'd just like to say, I'm honoured and blessed to be your manager. All I can promise is I'll fight for my life for the club. My family will move to the area and we're really excited about moving to the city of Liverpool, getting to know the football club and the people of Liverpool. I will leave no stone unturned in my quest - and that quest will be relentless - to try and get Liverpool back on the map again as a successful football club.
From BR first interview I think he is proving that by the way he has done every thing so far even the suarez issue he's really made me belive again on words and up words and really looking forward to this season
red rrab
Agreed, he hasn't done a lot wrong and has had some huge obstacles, good manager but will he be great?
Action's speak louder than words.
Yes he will defo be great, and he will make our famous team great too, it will happen .
16 Aug 2013 18:05:02
i just so wish we sign willian we all get ahead of ourselfs a bit but u can't help but imagine a front 4 of coutinho suarez willian and sturridge. brendan building from the front for sure
If, and a big IF it is, we get Willian, then we won't have Suarez. So maybe look at it as Sturridge, Willian, Aspas, Borini and Coutinho.
Andy K
16 Aug 2013 18:00:01
Sly sports reporting that Suarez has apologised to Rodgers and the first team squad, and trained with the team today.
Can't see it changes much, mind. {Ed002's Note - You are right Dave.}
Wats with evertybody givin out that suarez is stayn I hope he does and I hope the club tie him down to a new contract as long as he proves his heart is red we have the bst striker in the premiership on our team {minus the first six games}we should get behind him and make him realise what he has and who we are
Actually it probably does change things mate.
For the first time this summer I actually think that Suarez might stay.
I believe the club in so far as they won't let him go to Arsenal and I don't think Real have the money for him and Bale (may not even have the money for Bale alone). Read an article the other day concerning the financial state of Spanish football and how some clubs are given favourable treatment by the state and that that may soon end with that same state now hugely reliant on EU aid. Don't think the lads from the EU want to see their funds used to support football clubs.
Barring a late bid from France or Germany I think he will stay - whether that is good or bad we will see but personally I think he will give 100 percent at whatever club he ends up playing for this season.
Oh not it doesnt.
16 Aug 2013 20:47:50
Do you still think real will make a bid Ed02? I hope we don't sell him to late in the window. {Ed002's Note - Of course they might.}
16 Aug 2013 22:22:11
Not in the slightest, green t. He's probably just realized that trying to force his way out will be the deciding factor in any possible move for him, and he is better served by putting his head down and getting ready for the season, no matter where he starts it.
17 Aug 2013 11:17:41
That people refuse to accept that Suarez is willing to leave and then post those sentiments is our reality.
Wasn't it Prometheus who had his liver torn out daily by a bird?
Just like Prometheus the eds suffer daily. Both suffer due to enlightening people for simple good will.
A bird tearing out my liver would potentially be less painful than suffering the grand delusions of some.
Say goodbye to Luis or at least be cynical so as to not get your hopes up before he breaks your heart. At the very least please don't S his D on these pages
16 Aug 2013 17:41:35
I hope willian comes to Liverpool.This will make a lot of fans happy
16 Aug 2013 17:28:26
If lifes getting you down a bit, moneys tight, your woman ain't acting right and you feel a general malaise. Get yourself over to the Arsenal page, you can't even write that type of comedy even if you tried for a hundred years. There all about to commit Hari kari over there at the Emirates. can't wait for tomorrow new season, new hope, new false dawns, new slimline Brenda and new belief (for at least a few games). But that's what makes soccer/Football so special, anticipation. LFC till I die. Anybody in Miami wanna watch the game tommrow? {Ed002's Note - You know this is not a dating site.}
Are you sure Ed's 02 because there seems to be a lot of fannies on here. lol
16 Aug 2013 17:22:56
hey eds. what's the situation with cheik tiote? is he available/injured? could be a decent cover for the holding mid position. strongly feel that that's the area we need to strengthen. thanks anyway. {Ed002's Note - There is no interest from Liverpool.}
Tiote is an awful, awful player - were do fans get these idea's that players like Tiote and Diame are good?
Tiote isn't awful but has more cards that Hallmark. I do not think he is great but I wouldn't go so far as awful.
Have you watched him? What does he do that makes him not awful?
I don't think he's awful. certainly not the best player we could get. but so late in the transfer window there aren't many good players available. and I just have a strong feeling that we have to strengthen that area. could have gone for someone like wanyama but we didnt. are we looking at any DM's at all?
16 Aug 2013 17:09:04
So reds, cissokho probably will happen now, it's really close.
Willian has been approached and the player himself would welcome a move to Liverpool.
We have signed four others already.
Lads. It's a good window!
YNWA
If we sign Willian and Sakho, I believe we made the smartest bit of business in the PL.
16 Aug 2013 21:58:56
His goal ratio is not good then, surely he must provide a lot of assists. Does anyone know how many he has over the last 4 years? Eds? Or can anyone tell me where to luck to find out. I would like to know as I don't know a thing about the player. Cheers
For Anzhi, a mid table Russian side, he assisted in 75% of their games.
That is an assist every 120 minutes. The sort of level we saw from Coutinho from January.
Impressive nonetheless.
16 Aug 2013 17:00:02
Am I there only person that think making a bid for willian is a stupid idea? The lad didn't even score 1 goal last season and hardly any the season before that for Anzhi, what's the point paying 30m for a player that hasn't even scored more goals than sterling and Ibe in an easy league for the past two years. Why not go for someone like michu or Di Maria?
Because Willian would move to us were as Di Maria wouldn't. Michu plays in a different position and one we are already well stocked in.
You're so right he didn't score any for Anzhi the season before last, BECAUSE HE WASNT THERE! He only signed in January and didn't even play in 20 games! Please read a profile or watch games with him playing before you judge! WOW!
I agree it's a lot of money for someone who is goal shy but his general talent, assist, passing stats and pace will give opposing teams lots to think about and create chances/space or others. It's a team.
Because michu is a target man he is no where near as versatile and there's not a chance I is getting di Maria, he would cost more than Willian most likely and would never want to come to us when he starts every week for Madrid.
I actually agree with you somewhat, I am dubious about spending 35m+ on one player when we aren't even in the champs league yet, it's risky to say the least! Better to spend half that amount on an up and coming player who has the potential to be world class
Bit early to be worried about a player who hasn't even signed for us, so what he doesn't have a great scoring record neither did Coutinho before he signed and now he looks capable of scoring around 10 goals this season. Things like the price we paid only become a talking point if he fails to settle quickly which can happen to the greatest players so it is always a risk. Personally I think he is good enough and versatile enough(can float anywhere in around the attack) which seems important to BR.
16 Aug 2013 16:43:49
Sup eds, Do you expect Liverpool to make a bid for will hughes from derby before the transfer window closes? Plus is it true they have given up hope of signing papadopulus from shalke? I hear BR isn't going to sign another centre back even if they do sell skrtel because he has a lot of faith in Andre Wisdom to become a first team regular alongside agger. Cheers eds {Ed002's Note - Search engine please.}
I worry about Wisdom, he got torn apart against Celtic and looks very very slow to react, not sure he has got what it takes to cement a place in the first team - certainly don't think relying on him instead of buying Papadoupolous makes any sense (at least from a footballing perspective).
Wisdom's better position is at right back. I would prefer to play Kelly in central defence, but what ever position Wisdom plays in he will improve with every minute he gets. He is only 20.
Red Rum
16 Aug 2013 16:07:09
Ed02 are reports Falcao may have been transfer listed by Monaco due to Tax burden issues correct? {Ed002's Note - For Falcao to Liverpool stories you had best give Twitter a shot.}
16 Aug 2013 15:18:14
Afternoon all,
Slightly off topic, but I suppose this is a banter forum!
Just been reading the player profile on Suso, and just getting more and more excited about this kid! One of the replies said "he could be a future leader of ours".
Which leads me to my question for today.
Has any foreign player joined a team's academy as a youth and then gone on to spend most if not all of their career at that club, becoming a legend.?
I know we had breakthrough players in the past like Carr, Gerrard, Fowler etc, but they tended to be local lads or at least British lads. Has a foreigner ever done it?
Z
P.S. I'm imagining a Molby-esque scouse accented Suso speaking to the press as Liverpool Captain in 2022, having just won the league title for the 23rd time to reclaim our crown from Man Utd!
Id say Messi
Messi joined Barca as a youngster, and he has got to be pretty close to a Barca legend.
Giggs. .
16 Aug 2013 15:10:40
Hi Ed's and Fellow Reds.
Would just like to say '' Get in there LFC, throwing you weight around in the transfer market''.
Really impressed with us at the moment.
Got a real good feeling that even if we don't land Willian that at least the club are searching for a real good £30m mark player'
Hopefully we can sign him and make a real push for top four or even higher!
16 Aug 2013 14:51:03
Was driving past the side of Melwood this morning when I noticed two 'paps', one sittin on his car and the other with a stepladder. Thought we may have made a new signing. Failed to put two and two together. Got back to work to hear Suarez had apologised and was training with the team.
Even after all the little so and so has done my honest instant reaction was "Yes, he wants to stay". I understand that he is probably a time bomb but I can't help but love watching him skin people and produce something magical on the pitch.
Surely it can only have a positive effect on the side (short term at least) for him to apologise before the season gets underway. I thought he was going to sulk until at least 2nd September knowing that he wasn't eligible to play.
What do you reckon guys. Is this an honest apology or a calculated move to somehow assist a smooth transfer in the future?
I think he is making a passable impression of a professional whilst his agent continues to find him a new club .
Whether we sell or not remains to be seen of course .
He will go.
16 Aug 2013 14:45:28
Did skrtel join napoli or are we still stuck with him
A bit rough Ultra. He did cost us some points last year and is one player I believe we can improve on but to say 'stuck with' is a bit unkind to our former player of the year and still a Red.
16 Aug 2013 13:46:21
Hi all, long time reader but a new poster. I see saurez is back training with the squad, think he has realised he won't be going anywhere this season( unless Madrid come in for him and it may kick off again) so think he will knuckle down and get on with it. Good to see that we have improved the squad from last season and still looking to add more also. Cissokho nearly done and hopefully a deal for Willian can be done. Think we might get another couple in after that too. Honestly think this season can see us get into top4 along with spurs. Arsenal and Man U to drop out (hope so anyway). Looking forward to game against Stoke and predict a 2 nil win with Sturridge and Gerrard scoring. Come on the pool.
16 Aug 2013 13:43:01
Super excited about the game tomorrow. Stoke are due for a good spanking from our lads. Time to show the bruisers how the game is actually meant to be played.
We will have main threat off set pieces, so I would personally do three center backs with Skrtel/Toure/Agger. Lucas as DM. Gerrard and Hendo in the center of the park. Coutinho supporting Sturridge. Personally, I would drop Enrique and put Johnson on the left side and use Aspas on the right. Obviously there would be an issue with Aspas tracking back to help the defense, but chances have to be taken, and I don't see Stoke destroying us on the counter attack.
Note: I wouldn't use this formation again this season! Just think that three center backs could really help against Stoke.
Prediction: Liverpool 3 Stoke 0. Two for Sturridge and one for Aspas. All three assists to Coutinho ofcourse.
Coop
Prediction: Liverpool 1 Stoke 0
A Stevie G penalty in the 59th minute!
3 CBs at home? Play our game and Stoke won't have much of the ball which means they won't have many chances. Have to say our first day record is awful though so I'd take a nervy 2-1 win. Adam is bound to drop a corner of free kick on someones head at some point. Fancy Aspas to score tomorrow.
Aspas as a wing back? Wide up front I can accept but as a wing back, not so sure.
16 Aug 2013 13:40:36
The season is upon us and I can't wait for the kick off against Stoke tomorrow.
No doubt we have made progress and I optimistic of a more positive start to the season than that of last year.
Tomorrow we will see the intensity of games increase significantly from pre-season and only then will we get a gauge on the quality of Iaspas and Alberto and whether they will be able to make an impact.
Toure and Mignolet are known quantities.
I would have liked us to have acquired at least one more player (besides Mignolet) that is a walk up starter in our first eleven that is guaranteed to make an impact.
One of the most sensible things I have heard in the last two weeks, was Gerrard's suggestion that the window close before the first game.
Onwards and upwards, let's get a win to take the focus off the pre-season will or won't he saga that has been done to death.
C'mon you Reds!
I read that we haven't had an opening day win since 08. For about a decade we haven't started well too often and have had to play catch up. If we can get off to a good start, who knows.
16 Aug 2013 13:38:10
Optimism rolls on! Why not! After all the crap we've put up with Suarezgate we deserve a little wave of optimism. If BR gets Willan, having got Sissokho, then we will have a very good season, very good indeed! Willan is a true 'badass' in the shape of Coutinho etc. Now we hear Suarez has apologised! Is this so we let him be sold or do we have a 50M+ offer for him? is that why Willan is being lined up and chatted up by us? If Willan signs I will not be so upset at Suarez leaving, like him to stay though!
Downing's gone, good luck to him, we are a little thin now, although maybe BR has plans for Sterling and Ibe, who knows.
And, guys, can we give Borini a temporary break please? Give him 10 game to prove or disprove himself? Remember Lucas? Remember? I used to scream at my TV when he used to lose the ball or fall over. and I also remember how our season faltered when we lost him to injury a couple of years ago!
So, let's be the greatest fans that we are and give him a chance. A LAST CHANCE. YNWA
Sorry but I take umbrage with your Lucas comments. Some of us have supported him from day 1, recognised his quality, and frankly sick of having to defend him against people who do not know what a key component of our team he is. Any coincidence that we played our best football and improved results when he returned? I thought that most "fans" would have finally recognised this since his injury at Chelsea. he doesn't need a last chance. He needs some of you to recognise his importance. He's not flash, particularly powerful or even really quick but positionally excellent, when he cuts down on needless fouls around the box and we win trophies people will mention him along the lines of Makelele.
Richards : Whilst I repsect your views on Lucas, the original poster was only referring to Fabio Borini being given a last chance .
Here is hoping for another great season out of Lucas .
It's because Sturridge and Coutinho were in the team. Not because of Lucas. you are becoming a laughing stock with the blind support of Lucas.
Lucas is good but not one of the best in his position. Far from it.
Regardless of you reading iranred in London post wrong.
You most be the biggest B.Ser on here with that comment. You knew from day one that he would be a top quality holding midfielder? Even though he was bought as a goal scoring attacking midfielder. Not even rafa knew he did not have the quality to play in the top half of the pitch or the drive to turn himself into a top top dm.
What are you on
I don't think that IranRed has had a go at Lucas at all. He was just saying that Lucas started slowly and is now one of the first names on the team sheet and that maybe we as a fanbase can learn from how quick many of us judged Lucas too early, myself included, and give Borini a chance. I disagree with IranRed much of the time but I agree with his point here. Maybe Borini won't make it, but let's not be too hasty with writing him off just yet. IranRed, was that you point?
'a last chance' - are we that impatient that a 21 year old is in the last chance saloon after one season.
That's not what he said though, he said some of us recognised his quality from day 1. I also backed Lucas from day 1 despite all the abuse he received (and I subsequently received for supporting him) regardless of the position he played in or had previously played in. Some players are instant successes (Coutinho, Agger) and some need time (Lucas, Alonso) but they all need our support. The constant abuse aimed at Borini is embarrassing and undeserved - fans doing so really are letting the club down.
16 Aug 2013 13:01:41
So happy about todays news, Cissokho a decent signing, and Willian I haven't seem much of but given how all top 4 clubs want him suggests he's good! Really excited.
16 Aug 2013 12:45:51
Hey!!
Exactly 24 hours until Liverpool Kick-Off!!!
Get psyched.
One more sleep!
Buzzing!
16 Aug 2013 12:45:04
ssn are reporting that we are in talks with Willian and he seems really keen to join, would just like to know what your thoughts were Eds, do you see this happening or fizzling out like eriksen, papa, alderweild and mikey did? thanks in advance. {Ed002's Note - They didn't "fizzle out".}
16 Aug 2013 12:43:09
Hi Eds, I think I have been accidentally banned from the MU page. None of my posts will appear whether I am logged in or not. Can you help? Thanks. {Ed002's Note - If yu have messed with an Ed Syd you will get your pee-pee whacked and a ban.}
16 Aug 2013 14:59:57
Maybe they thought you were a pool fan, the amount that you've been on this site Syd.
Seeing as you spend most of your time here, maybe they thought you were an LFC supporter? After all, it's dedication that you have shown!
"Accidentally banned"
Yes, I'm sure it was an accident
I haven't messed with an Ed. {Ed002's Note - Any sort of touching an Ed is not allowed Syd. It doesn't matter where you touch them.}
Its no accident Disney. This is what happens when you don't follow the only poster that speaks sense on your page. Namely Mr Kloot. You are always welcome here tho. We take any old nonsense.
Chicken little you didn't answer my question the other day, or maybe you missed it.
You keep banging on about how united are going to "finish at least 30 points ahead of Liverpool"
So I challenged you to this and the offer still stands:
If united finish less than 30 points ahead of Liverpool then you donate a pound a point to the hillsbough fund ( so if united finish just 25 points ahead you owe a fiver)
If united finish more than 30 points ahead of us then I will donate a pound a point to a charity of your choice (so if united finish 35 points ahead of Liverpool I owe your charity a fiver)
What do you say? You wanna put your money where your mouth is? :)
It didn't seem to bother you Ed ;) {Ed002's Note - I'll even pay.}
Did the ed wink at you first using his oriental eye? {Ed002's Note - Glass.}
16 Aug 2013 12:24:55
Really pleased with the Cissokho deal, imo he is the player kenny should have signed when we signed Enrique. My opinion on Enrique is world beater for 2 months, crap for 3.
William, well I'll beleive it when I see it. If he sign's then even with Saurez not there I see a very productive season. Him and Coutinho in the same side, Sturridge must be licking his lips with the prospect of the service he is going to get. If he signs I might even put a sneaky fiver on him being top EPL scorer this season.
like I said, believe it when I see it.
16 Aug 2013 12:07:56
Willian will have to take a wage cut to sign for Liverpool. But with huge performance bonus'.
Lucas and Coutinho + Guaranteed game time will get him to sign for LFC over anyone else.
That's the big advantage we can offer him if he joins us then he is almost certain to start unlike Utd, Cty, Arsenal or Spurs where he would have to compete to get a game and with it being World Cup year i'm sure he will want to be playing regular 1st team football.
He's on 100k right now seen as we've got rid of reina 100k Carroll 80k downing 80k cole 80k I'm pretty sure we could offer him decent wages. We wouldn't be considering him if we can't pay him!
16 Aug 2013 12:07:06
Deal done for Cissokho. Personally whenever I have seen him play he has never looked secure defensively in which case he is not really an improvement on Enrique. However he may prove to be more useful going forward in attack. Nonetheless a loan deal providing experienced cover, all in all not the worst bit of business.
What do people think - was siqueara the better option? Can aly cement that LB position as his own?
Well I hope it turns out to be a good signing, but it's difficult to see him improving the starting 11? I think Sequera would have done, but I guess they wanted too much for him. Let's hope Cissokko does well
If we managed to secure him on a loan with a potential option, then I think it a very clever piece of business. Doesn't cost us much and if it works well, then great, but worst case scenario is we at least have credible cover while Robinson hopefully gets some much needed game time.
Agree RDL. I haven't seen enough of him to make a truly educated view but from what I have seen, he looks like a good attacking left back that would suit our style.
16 Aug 2013 12:02:53
Alot happening today. I guess Ayre is busy while Rogers is busy with training for the game . Could see our newcomers sitting in the stands at tomorrows game. Cissoko, Willian. and another 2 more before the window closes, CB and winger.
With potential new signings in Willian & Cissokho I feel that will conclude our summer activity as we don't need another CB especially if Skrtel stays as we already have Toure, Agger, Kelly, Wisdom, Coates & Skrtel if they stay, for the wing I feel we could do with either Sinclair or Ince but feel Rodgers will be happy with what he has got in Sterling, Ibe, Aspas, Alberto, Gerrard, Henderson, Suarez, Coutinho, Sturridge, and potential new signing Willian all able to play there.
16 Aug 2013 12:01:49
Exciting times ahead, we've agreed a deal for cissokho and we have officially opened talks with willian, and considering his eagerness to leave and the fact he is a Liverpool fan, we could be set for the biggest signing of the summer. Am I getting ahead of myself eds? Cheers {Ed002's Note - Everything will be fie in the end.}
16 Aug 2013 12:00:49
Exciting times ahead, we've agreed a deal for cissokho and we have officially opened talks with willian, and considering his eagerness to leave and the fact he is a Liverpool fan, we could be set for the biggest signing of the summer. Am I getting ahead of myself eds? Cheers
16 Aug 2013 11:53:39
eds any confirmation on a bid for willian.ssn saying Liverpool are in talks which sounds like we are pushing ahead with a move for him. {Ed002's Note - There is no bid at this time.}
16 Aug 2013 15:46:59
I know you don't like to speculate ed, but do you see us as a viable option for willian, considering some of the options open to him? {Ed002's Note - There is interest and they are trying to get an auction going as they did not expect MCFC not to return with a higher bid.}
16 Aug 2013 11:46:57
Tip of the day:
Don't trust a woman with big hands.
Davey. Don't trust a woman with big hairy hands.
Well, don't trust a man going around giving tips of the day or nuggets of wisdom.
16 Aug 2013 14:45:00
Or an Adam's apple - especially not if you are in Thailand.
But always trust a women with one big bossum?
Don't trust women!
Don't trust a woman called "Dave" ;)
Davey, are you sure that was a woman?
16 Aug 2013 11:41:12
So now we have agreed a deal to sign Aly Cissokho on loan instead of Sequira. I am sorry but he is not an upgrade on Enrique.
Are we actually having any money?
I am not a finance guy but is it really that hard to sign the Granada LB, Papadopoulos and Willian. It will in total cost us atmost 55-60M. While we should recoup atleat 25M+ from the sales of Reina, Skrtel, Coates, Assaidi, Downing and Ince (35%). (some this summer some next)
As far as I reckon it will be a win-win situation for the owners. The Current squad will not reach top 4. If we sign the above players atleast we are in with a chance. But even if we fail, they have a sellable asset in Suarez who will have even more interest next summer with teams like PSG, Monaco maybe even Barcelona and Borussia Dortmund coming in for him in addition to Real Madrid and by selling him they would easily recoup their 30M and giving us 15-20M to find his replacement. {Ed002's Note - There is no telling what interest there will be in Suarez next season as clubs will be spending considderably less than this year.}
So eds does it look likely that Suarez will stay now? {Ed002's Note - He wants to leave - that shouldbe pretty clear.}
Sorry got a little fed up while writing this post.
Maybe we are loaning a LB to save money to sign Papadopoulos and Willian.
OR maybe I am clutching at a whole bunch of straws.
Please Ayre I pray to you just get us Papa and Willian (keeping Luis Suarez) and maybe the club will give you a few months off to spend with your fit bird.
Maybe we are taking a left back on loan to see how Robinson progresses? Maybe another Cb will only come if we can sell an existing CB at an acceptable price?
16 Aug 2013 11:34:21
Cannot wait for the season to start tomorrow. Stoke will be a good test, their physical game last season knocked us for six so it will be good to see how we cope against them.
On a different note, do people feel we have an adequate team for this season? Not in terms of quality, I know that causes many a debate on here, but more the actual depth. I've been positive and happy with the signings so far, however the squad itself for me just seems a little short. We've got rid of a lot of players, reduced the wage bill dramatically, but I feel the wings are desperately short. We cannot rely on Sterling and Ibe to step up all the way through the season when called upon, they're only 17 and 18, we saw how tired Sterling looked after half a season last year.
On top of that, with Downing's departure it has left us with one less option at LB when needed.
I completely understand the logic offloading the players we have, however I've got to say it will make me nervous if the transfer window closes with just the team we have now. I have full faith in all the lads, and we all know they'll try their hardest, however I feel 3 or 4 more solid signings would make a monumental difference to the entire squad, not just the first team. LB, CB and a winger and I think we'll be ready to go.
Thoughts?
JFT 96
JP
Cissokho has just signed so don't worry about left back. But yeah we do feel a little bit short still, 2 or 3 more players will do it though.
We are still being linked with players though so we can be fairly confident we won't be lacking depth come the end of the window. Or at least we will look in much better shape.
Would be great to get off to a flying start 2moro for a change, I feel it will do us wonders.
Interesting read, I think the key to the signings made and development of current players relies on versatility. For instance looking at the likes of Carroll for example he is pretty much exclusively a CF however the attacking players in the side now are significantly more adaptable.
I know in reference to the LB situation Aly Cissokho has been brought in on a loan deal however I feel a couple of positions potentially could do with strengthening. It would surprise me if there aren't one or two more players coming in before the deadline is up.
The signings made albeit not "world class" players have been good solid additions to the side and introduce a significantly more flexible potential. In general I feel the owners are doing the best for the club. By implementing a more sustainable business model by shifting older players allows the potential for a solid younger side to flourish, somewhat like Dortmund have done recently.
Haha yeah Mikey, just as a wrote this I then read about Cissokho. I haven't seen much of him though, so cannot comment on whether he'd be an improvement on Enrique, I suppose I'll just have to wait and see! Seems like a very mixed bag of opinions on him on here.
JFT 96
JP
The thing with Enrique JP is on his day he his world class and will get man of the match easily.
Then on another day he is completely useless.
The lack of any competition must have something to do with it. Bringing in any competition at all will push him hopefully.
I have only seen a bit of cissokho while working abroad and he's decent but not world class. Will provide excellent back up/cover/even replacement for Enrique.
Good solid signing in my opinion, filled a massive left back sized hole in our squad.
I am well impressed with all our signings so far.
Metcala, I agree completely. The fluidity in the attack is one of the best parts of the system Rodgers has introduced. Plus the business model you talk about is something that had to be introduced, the wages Liverpool paid out to some players was absolutely ridiculous. It's about time the club tried to plug what was an ever increasing hole. I think people sometimes forget just how close we were to administration when FSG bought the club.
I do hope we get another couple of signings in, although I'm not holding my breath over Willian, the lad is saying the right things but I think he is just really hopeful of a move to England, regardless of what 'big' club comes in for him, plus we will face stiff competition from clubs who have more money to spend up front as well as on wages, guess only time will tell.
JFT 96
JP
We don't play with wingers. Suarez, Coutinho, Aspas, Borini, Alberto, Sterling & Ibe can all play in the 3 behind the central striker. Sterling & Ibe are great options to stretch games late on with their pace. The others all have great movement and can chip in with goals. Squad is stronger than 12 months ago and we can still lose Assaidi & Coates. I reckon we are also 10-13m pa better off wage bill wise. All the deals so far have been self financed which is no mean feat. LFC should be applauded. We've also walked away from targets if we're not happy with the valuation. Surely that's a good thing?
16 Aug 2013 11:08:32
Well well, on ssn website apparently we've agreed to sign Cissokho. As I type just heard it on the radio also, and they just confirmed that we've opened talks with Anzi about William, very very surprised about that one.
16 Aug 2013 11:08:07
Let the next wave of optimism commence!
And the negative snipes continue.
16 Aug 2013 10:54:53
good news on signing cissoko on season long loan, a left attacking mid, a centre half to replace skrtel if he leaves, if suarez leaves i'm sure we will also sign another attacking player and maybe a defensive mid if we can.
16 Aug 2013 10:54:37
Welcome to LFC Aly Cissokho, was my preferred choice of left back with a great attacking threat (although susceptible last season at the back) should provide good competition for Enrique. Now just Willian and Sakho! ;)
16 Aug 2013 10:39:44
I wish Suarez didn't exist, I've never been so fed up of somebody's name in all of my life!
Roll on the 2nd! it can't come quick enough for me, anyway! so what score is it going to be tomorrow? I'll go with 3-1 I think this is going to be a great season for Liverpool, the team we have i'm more than happy with, any extra additions is a bonus for me!
Have a good day to all!
Well he's back training with the 1st team so say sky spts news . hopefully now we can move on as your right i'm bored with it, stoke should be our focus and i'm looking forward to it
16 Aug 2013 09:37:58
Ed, do you think Borini could go to Cardiff on loan? It would suit all parties. We have enough option up front unless Suarez leaves, he would get experience and probably be a starter and Cardiff would get another forward option ad they're light upfront. What do you think?
Cheers {Ed002's Note - I really don't know.}
Awful suggestion. For some reason Borini is the focus of a lot of fans negativity - he's barely been given a chance and fans have already been consistently slating him and imploring that the club should sell him - it's an absolute embarrassment. He may not be a Messi/Suarez/Ronaldo type player but he is very clever, links up well with the team, brings other players into play and creates space. He needs time to build his confidence and performances however, given the way the fans talk about him on here I don't think he's going to get it. Has similar echoes of Lucas' treatment in his first few seasons and Henderson's until he found form towards the end of last season.
That would leave us with just Sturridge and Aspas!
Borini will never be good enough his touch and finishing is awful. He's like Heskey. Stop sticking up for him just because he's foreign and has a flamboyant name he's completely s**t and if he played across the park we'd all be laughing at them wasting over £10m on him.
Id rather have just them two than fitting in borini he is really poor.
Borini should be judged on his goal scoring. Nothing else. He will be expected to step up this season. In the Premier League you aren't given the luxury of time.
If Borini is loaned out and if we are left with Sturridge and Aspas, you will be moaning about having 2 strikers in the team.
I can stick up for anyone I like. I am not the biggest fan of Borini nor do I think he should be spitted out like gum. What is certain is that he hasn't had a chance to show what he can do. If by the end of this season, he hasn't improved, then the time to move him on, not now, 24 hours before our first game of the season, with issues surrounding Suarez and Sturridge's fitness in question.
Harsh on Borini in my opinion. Give the lad the benefit of an injury free season before casting negative judgements.
Anyone remember the Liverpool Way? Come on.
Red G
I don't really understand the anti-Borini crowd, yet then people are jumping up and down about Lamela? The two have very similar goal scoring stats (in terms of goals per minute) playing for Roma. Give Borini a break, he's just a kid.
There aren't that many 22 year old strikers out there who are better, and those few that are would cost a ton of money and probably not be willing to be 2nd/3rd choice for us.
Sturridge and Aspas? Where do you put Suarez? Borini reminds me of a "waste of space" player, Ngog.
Come on, wake up we don't need such players.
Time? How much time does he need? 10 years? Just because he was injured for few months doesn't mean we didn't see his abilities. He is nowhere near good for Liverpool. Aspas played less games for us and he seems like a very good signing. Why can't we see this in Borini? Because he isn't!
16 Aug 2013 18:30:36
The Liverpool way is what is dragging Liverpool down. Need to realize this is the present. Times are changing. Players who are not good for this team, need to be shipped away. Mistakes can be made(when we buy wrong players), but the sooner we fix them the better.
Why we should loan/sell borini? he just recover from his injury, give time for him, perhaps another season. we are playing well with him before he get injured. he just need to find his form again like he did on euro u-21 for italy.
16 Aug 2013 09:34:03
Weird that Suarez is now 50/50 to stay, this transfer saga has run so long that I've kinda already accepting him moving on, I don't even see him as part of the club anymore. I think if he stays he will be highly disruptive and certainly not performing at his best. With the owners categorically refusing to sell him to another Premier League team is there an expectation that Real Madrid (or possibly PSG or Monaco) are going to make a move for him? If they don't will this mire remain unresolved until January at the earliest? Will be extremely toxic to the club if it does.
50/50? Really?
Andy K
I wish I had of put a fiver on Rooney, Suarez and Bale to stay at thier clubs.
16 Aug 2013 09:26:46
As much as I and most others want Willian who seems the perfect player for the left side of our team, we must be prepared to "miss out" he could in all probability end up somewhere else (not to mention a WP). Interested to know who Liverpool see as an alternative if we can't get him, really hard to think of anyone we would have chance of getting who is as technically good as Willian, I like El sharaawy but he won't want to leave would be expensive and would end up at a club in the CL.really hope we get Willian though.
Arda Turan, Adrian, Dszudszak or even Lamela, now that there seems like a chance he will go, are all better options in my opinion and all definitely cheaper and attainable.
I really think that people shouldn't get their hopes up on this Willian, if the likes of UTD are interested, with what they can offer in terms of European football and all I don't see us getting him.
Realistic though? Arda maybe, lamela to complicated dszudszak not as good IMO maybe adrien but don't no of any interest
I strongly believe we should go for Griezmann or Dzsudzsak. Both are cheaper than Willian. But I don't have any problem if we signed Willian too.
I know I was wondering how he would qualify for a work permit. Probably the same way Fernandinho qualified for one. Basically if you have over 1 million pounds to "invest" in the country you can be granted one an then its reviewed again after three years, or something like that anyway. {Ed002's Note - Nothing like that at all.}
16 Aug 2013 16:09:03
I think all of them are attainable. Lamela has complex ownership issues but as Ed02 pointed out the other day, Roma have told a potential buyer, they plan to buy his full ownership. {Ed002's Note - Roma has indeed made a commitment and put the funds in ESCROW to clear any issues.}
16 Aug 2013 09:26:22
Hello Eds,
is it true we are going back in for Cissokho as Granada FC are asking for around 12M pounds for Sequira?
I still feel we should go for the Granada LB if a deal can be done for around 8-9M. He is a much much better option than Cissokho. {Ed002's Note - I have explained what I know.}
16 Aug 2013 10:00:16
Granada is looking at somewhere 12 mill for him, They are aware of the Interest from Real Madrid.
If Coentrao is sold, then He would wnd up at madrid.
we need a Sold LB, Not a cover.
Apparently the price was around 3.5 mill before Real Madrid showed interest now, Granada was 12 mill.
I would tell them were to shove it as well. We moan about us overpaying for players, so we are right to walk away.
YNWA
16 Aug 2013 10:38:30
Yeah But a decent foist team solid left back from a good league would cost at 8-10 mill for sure.
I agree we need a good solid left back and a good one will cost 8 mill +, but being told one minute a player will cost 3.5 mill and then the next being told its 12 mill, that wouldn't work for me. I'd rather go straight for a left back whose original cost is 12 mill.
YNWA
He is 27 harry and not exactly a marcelo. 5.5m was fair but 12m is just greedy.
16 Aug 2013 09:11:03
ssn transfer page at 11:06 last night says "We are hearing reports that Valencia left-back Aly Cissokho has finalised a loan move to Liverpool. The 25-year-old was believed to be a target for Sunderland"
Can this be confirmed? seen nothing this morning so far {Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}
Tony Barret from the times tweeted the same and he is quite reliable.
16 Aug 2013 09:06:44
Hi, not a rumour but a question please eds. Do you know how Suso is getting on in Spain? Any feedback on if he has made any sort of impact so far. Thanks {Ed002's Note - Search function please.}
16 Aug 2013 10:00:39
I am worrid now, Will he settle there?
The La Liga hasn't started mate. He played in Almeria's friendlies against Cordoba I think.
16 Aug 2013 08:56:06
I really hope we do not sign Willian
if the powers to be do insist on buying him I hope they pay no more than £10-15m - anything more will be a waste of money that could be spent more wisely elsewhere
Where then? And please don't say Eriksen because he's not in Willians class.
As I repeatedly point out, Arda Turan, Adrian, Konoplayanka, Dszudszak or even Feghouli are all cheaper and IMO better players and all of them are potential available.
I'm sorry real AG, I don't want to be rude, I'm a Hungarian and I've seen Dzsudzsak play some games, but if you think he's better than Willian then I have to question your judgment when it comes to football.
I agree that the price sounds a little bit too much for Willian but I'd still go for him from among the mentioned players.
£10 to £15 million!1 You have to be kidding. He may be overpriced but he is worth more than £10 million. Turan I agree may IMO be an even better purchase.
Both would be ok with me though :). but never going to haqppen :(
16 Aug 2013 11:23:24
i would say willian isn't in eriksens class! been onto the chelsea and spurs sites, not just the rumour site, and the majority seem to think they dodged a bullet in not signing willian
(the red from the office)
HK,
I disagree mate. I have seen Dszudszak during his PSV days, when we were interested, then again during his time in Dinamo, and I think he is an EFFECTIVE player. He will score and assist plenty.
Willian on the other hand, while full of tricks, flicks and step overs, doesn't assist or score enough in my opinion.
Sirbillynick
Willian and Eriksen are different type of players, so how are you comparing them?
16 Aug 2013 08:43:17
question for the edds. br and the clubmust have identified their targets months ago, and must have had a contingancy plan for each target. my question is "why is it such a protracted and drawn out system to sign a target" surely if the player, doesn't want to come, is deemed to expensive or his club don't want to sell then its on to the next target untill all targets are exhausted? why so complicated? {Ed002's Note - Why is Suarez still at Liverpool?}
Because he's deemed to be too expensive by the buying club.
Sorry, was asking from a buying clubs point of view. if the player has no interest in coming, is to expensive or his club don't want to sell. we seem to be 2-3 players short with just a day before kick off. or is it a matter of running out of targets? that would seem very naive but I feel signing players early as we have done is so key rather than leave it last minute, allthough most teams have done this {Ed002's Note - I would hope the club wold utilise their youngsters before buying for the hell of it.}
Bon, do you take the sticker price on a car, mate?
Andy K
Andy k I see you're point but if there's no negotiating and you really want the car you pay the money
Im not bothered if the club want to utilize the kids at the club but don't be expecting a top 4 finish. It certainly didn't help us last year when we had to rely heavily on Wisdom, Sterling and Suso early on.
Swampmonster, or if it is more than you believe it is worth than you look at another one. As a side note, my analogy is not a great one in the end as it does not include competition of course.
16 Aug 2013 08:33:13
Eds this quote from willian and him mentioning Liverpool don't you think he's just name dropping so he can get other clubs interested? Seems to me its just another player using our name to say come and get me
everyone. I know there is interest but just feel. were going to get used again
I doubt he'd do that because he has admitted to being a Liverpool fan
16 Aug 2013 07:26:25
The season kicks off tomorrow. I for one, am excited! So I refuse to read anymore negative sh$te or paranoid ravings (sorry ED's I don't know how you do it every day). I refuse to even think about the country of Uruguay or anyone from there! I am going to go out tonight and get warmed up (stupidly drunk), I will then sleep away the morning before waking up to the new season and a massive LFC win. For all the doom and gloomers my fingers are firmly stuck into my ears and I am humming (annoyingly) loudly. C'mon you reds!
Well in lad
16 Aug 2013 08:23:18
Hi all
I am fed up with the ongoing saga of will he won't he go or stay. Think BR and FSG are playing a blinder the way they have handled it.
I notice that Coutinho keeps being mentioned as the player to push us forward. He is a great talent and prospect but hopefully don't put to much pressure on the lad and let him play his game.
Onto the Willian rumour as I see it. He has asked for us to come and get him if you believe what you read. Have we got £30 million to spend? I ask this as it seems that at the moment we are selling to buy on smaller wages. Having said that I believe from what I have seen that we are capable of pushing forward with the football we are playing. Looking forward to tomorrow and hopefully get a good result. Always believe my friends.
16 Aug 2013 08:20:49
Hi Eds, great site and appreciate your efforts to provide us with information. Just a thought, with us apparently nearing a deal for Siqueira and a loan for cissokho, could siqueira actually be utilised as a winger who would provide a sense of balance in our shape. Similar to how downing did but with a bit more flair and defensive capability? Can't wait for saturday 12.45, need to get the points in early! {Ed002's Note - I really don't know.}
16 Aug 2013 08:18:43
Willian does not score enough goals for an AM/Wing for me. Better options available at better prices for me. Personally someone like:
Shaqiri
Farfan
Afellay
Gaitan
Would all all be better options and cheaper. Although Afellay isn't now available.
Anfield Andy
16 Aug 2013 10:05:41
Y not turan? worth a Bid.
I awlays wonder, Athletico Madrid always replace their super strikers with some very important names.
Aguero, falcao, turan
Farfan & Afellay NO Thank you!
Gaitan is a good shout. Also, Adrian, Arda Turan, Konoplayanka, Dszudszak are all options and could be available at a much cheaper price.
16 Aug 2013 10:39:55
The Real AG.
Finally. Spot on. all you mentioned would be an excellent signing, I just wonder why they never bid for any of these. hard work behind the scenes?
16 Aug 2013 08:13:18
Eds you still think that RM will bid for Suarez? Or are they awaiting the Bale situation {Ed002's Note - Suarez's people think they will bid.}
16 Aug 2013 06:28:02
It will be a worst feeling if united get willian
16 Aug 2013 05:47:02
So its Willian eh! Feel sorry for our fans who are once again excited about been linked with another top class player. I don't think we will get him though.
I think it will be another bubble like of Mikhitaryan or Costa. I am fed up with this missing on big targets.
Yes we cannot offer champions league football, or extreme packages of wage. But look at Spurs if they can land the likes of Soldado, Paulinho this window and the likes of Lloris and Verthongen last summer why can't we just do the same.
Something is really going wrong with the negotiation team involved in these deals. I don't think Ian Ayre is the man for the job. Spurs have Franco Baldini who has lots of experience working on transfer deals, know around Europe well respected by agents. I think we need someone like Baldini to work on these deals on behalf of the club.
Please keep MR. Ayre out of these deals.
I am always hearing we have money, we have money to spend but so far from what the business we have done it dosen't look like we have money that much after all.
We need three class signings to get us top 4, a winger, CB, LB. These players need to be very good as suggested by BR to slot directly into starting XI.
Couple of days left, IMO without these three quality signings we go bust. No top 4 I predict for us, we 'll challenge but will not reach it.
Can't blame BR, can only blame Ayre and owners who are failing to bring the players what BR need that can bring that extra bit to get us top 4.
We really can't live with the feeling all the signings we make will turn out to be another Coutinho or Sturridge.
Spot on post. No doubt you'll get a torrent of abuse however from fans saying your not a true fan and to just get behind the team, even though you just want the best for our club.
Sorry to say I'm starting to think that all this interest and press coverage of us being linked with top players is just a load of belloni to keep us fans sated. Have we had confirmation of actual bids for any of these players at realistic prices?
We got our players in early in the window. Only if we get rid of "he who will be paid" will we perhaps do any more business.
Of course I hope I'm wrong. {Ed002's Note - Belloni won't be moving to Liverpool.}
16 Aug 2013 09:52:18
Spurs have a decent squad. Infact a very good squad and whomever saw last seoans of their performance, Its almost sure, they would be in CL next seaosn. So joining them won't be much off a gamble.
They play beautiful football let's be honest, I like AVB, we were in similar situation 3 years back, when new owners arrived and we had money, and we simply bleewd it up.
We are facing a herculiann task to keep out star player, why would other join us.
Willina would be a possibilty, If we really bid something.
15 Aug 2013 21:50:36
hi eds do you know of any interest in kongolo from feyenood? young cb who looks to have a bright future {Ed002's Note - I am not aware of interest.}
15 Aug 2013 23:35:36
If Liverpool sign Willian and Papa they will be competing at the top of the league. Keep Suarez and allow Assaidi Coates and Skrtel to move. If an offer comes for Borini that suits both club and player Liverpool could also upgrade! Muriel perhaps?
16 Aug 2013 01:19:11
The echo reporting were pushing ahead with the wilian deal because of how willing his club is to sell. Willian has also said he'd love to play for us. And hopes we pursue it! Come On brenden get this one done!
I really hope it comes off. os I`ve seen him play a few times and he can b electrifying at times. and w/ him and coutinho in the side, they can interchange to very good effect. and if it doesn`t happen, I`ll still get behind the team.
Willian, Coutinho, and Aspas/Sterling/Ibe supporting and linking up behind Sturridge would be deadly. I'm going to try to temper my excitement and expectations as not to be massively let down here if it doesn't formalize. He's a bit pricey sure, but if he truly is a reds fan and wants to play for the badge, I think that's a great start and hopefully an advantage in the negotiations, standing out perhaps from other suitors.
16 Aug 2013 01:02:41
Aly cissokho confirmed.
By who?
Really hope not. Siquera is a great player I think and at the price quoted would be a great buy.
16 Aug 2013 09:53:30
Siquera would cost us 12 mill. Not a chance for that money on LB, which is what most important.
Madrid would come down if Coentrao is sold.
16 Aug 2013 00:47:43
I was reading off Newsnow site, found several articles 1) Siqueira is reportedly negotiating personal terms with Liverpool and the signing is expected to be announced the next 48 hours. 2) Arsenal are prepared to offer Thomas Vermaelen as well as £45million for Liverpool striker Luis Suarez, . Is there any truth to either? One more question, how much of what you read about these rumors should one believe? I thought following college football (American) recruiting was crazy. Thanks.
Vermaleen is injured and we are not selling to arsenal anyway(BR and Henry) so that won`t happen. Grenada are reported to have moved the goal posts on the fee so I`m skeptical about that one as well.
15 Aug 2013 23:31:54
Snn reporting ally cissohko has agreed a loan deal with LFC ynwa
16 Aug 2013 00:33:39
Willian basically just told ESPN Brazil that he wants to join Liverpool. "Now I'm waiting for a bid to arrive in the next days from a few clubs, like Liverpool. If it's really Liverpool, then it is surely a great club. I'm hopeful and very calm, just waiting for the best. "
Sign him up!
15 Aug 2013 23:59:39
These Willian rumours seem to be gathering pace especially since Willian was quoted saying he'd "jump at the chance to play for Liverpool". Any truth in our advance talks eds?
Many thanks, doing a great job
Before joining Anzhi, he was saying he's jump at the chance to join Chelsea.
15 Aug 2013 23:55:55
Said it before will say it again FSG won't give BR any more money as they are trying to get the debt down to make the club more attractive to possible new buyers.
Thats yr lot folks we have to play the players we have no wonder suarez wants away there's no ambition.
Are you the same person who shouts that we have money to spend because of our failed bid for Micky a couple weeks ago? Calm down, and give it a rest for two weeks. Let's judge this window when its over.
No i'm not. let's see by the end of the window eh? Its just my opinion so let hope I eat humble pie.
Go grab a fork then northern red if you think we are not going to spend.
15 Aug 2013 23:55:11
If this was reported in the mail or the daily star I would not give it a second glance but this was reported in the echo no more than an hour ago. "I'm hoping in the coming days to receive an offer from a club like Liverpool. It sure is a great club, "
"I'm hopeful and very calm. Of course England is a league that many dream of playing in and I'm no different. My agent has had conversations with some clubs.
"I love the Premier League and the style of English football, and certainly if it happens it will be good for me. I'll grow professionally."
This is an interview by willian speaking to espn brazil reportedly.
Please say this is true eds?!
15 Aug 2013 23:54:46
Personally I think the smartest thing we could do is keep suarez until winter transfer market. There is a good chance that a couple of champions league teams could be crying out for someone like suarez through injury or other circumstances. Money money money
I think this is the most likely outcome.
Little face lost and LFC should get the fee a player of his quality deserves
15 Aug 2013 20:56:40
Just read 45 million and Vermaelan for Suarez.
No. They need to offer us
Vermaelen + walcott + cazorla + 75 million. Then they can get Suarez. This idea of strengthening your rivals is nuts!
Won`t happen.
I'd take that! I think Vermaelan is top class!
16 Aug 2013 09:36:56
Gudinox.
I like that buddy. But can't see any one thrown into the swap deal. why would they come to us?
15 Aug 2013 19:46:50
Hi eds and reds,
The new season is almost among us and I am still of the belief that currently our squad is still not strong enough to compete with the top-teams.
I think we needed that extra bit of attacking quality and a decent left back but time is ticking and that has not happened as of yet.
I still think we will smash stoke on Saturday and I cannot wait for the new season to get underway.
Hopefully the shouting at the tv this year will be positive rather than annoyance at our peformance ha ha
Come on Liverpool!
15 Aug 2013 16:17:52
Can't wait for saturdays game vrs Stoke. To talk about the football and not about you know who! Do the Ed's expect the Ten faced C¥nt to be at anfield or will he be kept away? Thanks Ed's.
Ynwa
15 Aug 2013 14:59:14
Hi Eds, I've submitted a few posts now as a new member but none of them seem to get posted. Anyway, I'm not going to mention S****z as we're sick of the ongoing saga now but I'd like to ask about the other ongoing saga of a LB. At one moment we were going for Melgarejo, then it was Cissokho, then the next minute we're going for Contento, now it seems to be Siqueira. Without repeating past comments but are any of these reliable stories? I just don't want us ending up with a panic Konchesky style signing!
Cheers!
15 Aug 2013 12:40:45
Hi Eds, was jsut wondering if you think we will sign any other players other than a left back? Thanks, excellent site!
Ross {Ed002's Note - Yes.}
15 Aug 2013 12:35:49
Hi eds and reds, quick thought about finances/transfers if anyone can answer.
1) I am aware that they are complicated (involving agent fees and others) but if I assume that lfc pay these fees for transfers in and others do for transfers out is that a fair assumption?
2)If this is true (ish) then we must be fairly even for players in/out inc wages etc?
3) this must mean that we have money to spend if the right player(s) comes along?
If this is correct I feel good about policy of keeping us in good financial shape and hopefully challenge for things in the near future.
cheers in advance of any help/thoughts on this. {Ed002's Note - (1/2) No, that is not how it works. (3) It doesn't mean that.}
15 Aug 2013 22:40:37
There you go Willian said it himself, now hopefully the doubt that he would come to LFC are put to rest. Still doesn't mean that he will join, but at least he is open.
here is the quote
"Now I'm waiting for a new bid to arrive in the next days from a few clubs, like Liverpool. If it's really Liverpool, then it is surely a great club. I'm hopeful and very calm, just waiting for the best."
15 Aug 2013 22:29:50
Just read a report on ESPN Brazil about Willian quoted as saying he hopes a bid comes in from Liverpool and something to the effect of it being a great club! Trying not to get my hopes up because the price but I would be very excited to see Willian wearing an LFC kit in the coming weeks!
15 Aug 2013 22:07:08
Why do Liverpool constantly pay over the odds for over rated players and sell them for peanuts? Is it any wonder the club is laden in debt. Downing, carroll, bought for £55 million sold for £24 million, hardly good business sense. And the fans were told they would hear news on the expansion, we've heard nothing. So what is new?
The sale of these players, for the fees received, was good business sense in my opinion. It was the acquisition prices that was poor business sense. Unfortunately for FSG, they employed the wrong people to make those decisions. I feel for them as they were new to the sport, it was their first transfer window, had received 50mil for Torres so probably had an overinflated understanding of value in the market.
Give it a rest with this nonsense - we will not see such business being conducted again.
That is what happens when u don`t have a vision, a system and structure in the transfer market.
16 Aug 2013 09:37:52
Redohio.
Top draw mate.
Glad U agree, Harry. The owners have a vision and good ideas in place. We may all disagree with it BUT we have irrefutable evidence that the alternative hasn`t worked so what could go wrong by going the other route?
15 Aug 2013 21:57:41
I was just reading on here about Konchesky.
I think he's the worst Liverpool signing in the last ten years.
Can you think of anybody more terrible?
Joe Cole.
Aquilani.
Carroll.
In the same window we signed Joe Cole on massive wages and Christian Poulsen - both of those were pretty bad. Hodgson had no idea.
Nunez in the Owen to Real Madrid deal. Terrible bit of business.
Robbie Keane and Aquaman come to mind. I still have Keane's dumb look engraved in my head running around trying to follow and link up with Torres.
Don't know how I forgot Poulsen and Jovetic. Oh wait, I had been trying to forget about the Hodgson days for years now. Oh well.
Christian Poulsen and Degen come to mind. Though its debatable who was worse among the three!
Andy Carroll.
At least Konchesky was cheaper and not our record signing.
My owner
16 Aug 2013 02:56:48
What about jokevanovic.remember him vs arsenal lol!
Aqua in terms or value for money he was worse than carroll
Harry Kewell! Only for the sheer amount of money wasted on wages! And he got a champions league medal for F.A
Jan Kromkamp anyone?
16 Aug 2013 09:54:17
Biscan
Damien Comolli?
Sean Dundee or Erik Meijer
Oops just seen last 10 years sorry
15 Aug 2013 19:12:48
hi eds
see big sam reckons that Liverpool turned downing into a bad player, nothing to do with the fact he couldn't handle the pressure of a big club. then again sam wouldn't know much about that as newcastle was as big as it got, they still found his direct approach unbearable to watch and soon west ham won't be just happy to survive and stoke will come calling after west ham want to go back to football, there will always be a team for this dinosaur of football.
So really Big Sam is admitting that he has just bought a bad player, what a guy, I bet Stuart is pleased with his new bosses comments :)
I wish managers would just talk about their own club. It is always in bad taste and childish when managers criticise other clubs. My comment does not exclude Rodgers either.
He`s always been a very bitter and jealous man. Downing didn't need our help to be a bad player. He did that on his own.
You also have to remember Fat Sam hates LFC (paranoia?). He frequently comments on us and whatever situation we are in, often when it has nothing to do with his own club. Has anyone forgotten the way he threw his 10 pennys worth in whne Rafa did his FACT rant! Big mouth and no class
I think Sam has had a chip on his shoulder for some time now. He mentioned something daft a few years back about he could manage Real Madrid or win the Champions League but he was never given the chance, or something as crazy anyway. He comes across as having a bad attitude with resentment to other managers and clubs operating at a higher level than him. He obviously rates himself and is a little bitter because no one else will give him a really top job (no disrespect meant to the Hammers)
15 Aug 2013 17:41:54
Lets get the Predictions going then:
WHERE WILL WE FINISH?
IMO a solid 6th place above Everton, what about u fellow reds
My head says we may just miss out on top four and finish 5th or 6th, but not as many points from top four as last year - I think 4/5/6 will be tight.
My heart says this is our year and we will win the league. Bring it on!
16 Aug 2013 14:59:19
5th and a good cup run would be lovely, for now.
15 Aug 2013 17:37:27
With Downing gone(finally!!), The Question is ' Is Henderson next' BR clearly does not rate any of Kennys signings: Charlie Adam---Stoke
Andy C ----westham Downing
Hendersons technique, ability and workrate suit our system in my opinion and I don't suspect he is on high wages like Downing would have been. He is young and passionate, so I doubt Rodgers will want him to go.
No, Hendo is well thought of by Rodgers.
The work rate and intelligence is a great fit and he is getting into more and more advanced positions.
He was captain against Valerenga and the U21s captain.
I highly doubt that he will be sold.
Henderson is U21 England captain.
He is young and he has a future, I think it would be a mistake to let him go.
Although I thought Shelvey was a good player but he is reported to have had attitude problems.
I don't think Henderson has
Luis Suarez.I don't think it's that Rodgers doesn't rate ANY of Dalglish's signings, he's just getting shot of the poor ones.
15 Aug 2013 17:39:49
I genuinely think we won't sign more than one player, I think the four we signed were all our targets and we wanted to get our business done early we haven't done anything for a month and a half, a transfer doesn't take that long, I think we're just destined for another 7th place finish. YNWA
Once was depressing enough, didn't need two copies!
Only kidding, but let's wait and see. Personally think we may go 5th but its progress and at moment I just thing Chelsea, man city and spurs are too strong. Maybe we can nip man U and arsenal but who knows
15 Aug 2013 17:39:40
I genuinely think we won't sign more than one player, I think the four we signed were all our targets and we wanted to get our business done early we haven't done anything for a month and a half, a transfer doesn't take that long, I think we're just destined for another 7th place finish. YNWA
15 Aug 2013 17:36:54
if we have money to spend why are we not buying players, we need a left back 2 or 3 have been mentioned and all we want to do is loan them, that's why we never got sturridge last summer because we wanted to loan him and chelski wanted to sell, so it seems its happening again in the left back situations, and we have looked at 4 CBs, the best one is only 8 mill and that's Sakho, is 8 mill too much for us, we have sold shelvey and downing so why not use that money to buy sakho, this is why I don't think we will buy anyone else we all have our different opinions about who to get but we can all agree we need a CB, I hope i'm proved wrong but only time will tell
Football Manager mentality doesn't translate to the real world very well.
Do you go to a shop to buy a nine volt battery and come back with a bag of crisps, no. Just because you have money doesn't mean you have to spend. FSG have proven that when the right player is available then the funds are there.
15 Aug 2013 17:31:33
Really need to get 3 first team players- i.e. a LB, a CB and a left winger in asap.
As every day of the transfer window passes it is looking less likely.
As it stands it is 99% certain we will not even challenge for top 4 as the squads of teams such as ManU, Man City, Chelsea and Spurs are far superior.
How is it looking less likely?
Siquiera (LB)
Willian (LW)
We won't need center backs if skrtel and agger both stay. Skrtel had an off year, let's not kick him to the curb immediately. Agger wasn't great either but you can still see his quality. defense is just as hard to mold into a new system as anything
99% certain - so there is still a chance? You beauty!
16 Aug 2013 07:45:15
Tj Red.
Ohh common. give me a break. Skertel was ripped apart here from other fans, . Now since we ain't bringing any new CB, he is good?
15 Aug 2013 17:26:29
It doesn't matter if we identify targets early or not. Costa and HM are good examples, we identified two game changing players who we made moves for, unfortunately they didn't go through.
And even if we have identified others the other team may want to wait until close to the end of the window to force us to pay a higher fee.
And behind the scenes means not everything that's going on has to be in the paper, we may not know about it but Liverpool could have had an offer accepted for any player in the world, and it may be being kept quiet.
People have got to start understanding that transfers are a two way thing, Liverpool can't just identify their targets and that's it they're ours, the other team has the chance to negotiate their terms and to wait it out.
Trust the eds, we are moving for players and BR is being savvy, only moving for players who fit I to our system. And to those who say he days of 20m+ transfers are gone, behave, we've made offers for two 20m+ players this window, HM and Costa, stop slating the Americans who are backing our manager, pushing for a stadium development and JW Henry has even been seen in bars in Liverpool, what more do you want?
Anfield Andy
BR knows what he`s doing. When you can't spend like City and Chelsea (and Spurs?), U have to be more savvy and smarter by going for players who will flourish in your system.
16 Aug 2013 07:47:02
h.
We never made a 20mill offer to MIcky. Dortumand got him for 21 mill. Behave urself.
I am not sure how much we offerd for mickey. possible 12-15 mill
Well said
15 Aug 2013 17:17:59
its all gone a little quiet hasn't it? I get the impression we're looking for another LF and possibly a CB, but it looks like the Skertalator will be staying. him, agger, kolo and wisdom will probably be the line up. I just cannot see us signing a 'marquee' signing - i'm not sure we need one. with sturridge, borini, aspas, sterling, and the nibbler when he gets back, I think BR feels we are covered until Jan. thoughts anyone?
Bring on Stoke - can see us playing them into the ground. YNWA!!
15 Aug 2013 17:06:03
I can see it now Ian Ayre turns up at Melwood tomorrow a smile as wide as the Mersey with a guy with crazy specs in tandem on his Harley singing Boom Boom Pow. Brenda ask Ian 'wheres Willan?' and Ian Ayre points at the African American gentleman. I said Willan not Will-I-Am.sorry I know its poor but I haven't posted for a few days and I was getting restless. come on you redmen for tomorrow. i'll be watching at 7.45 am in Florida. I don't think we have an especially strong 11 and we won't trouble any of the big boys without some more 'qwality' signings but Stoke at home should be a stroll but then again we are LFC we don't do anything the easy way! By the way NBC sports channel in the USA is showing all the Premiership football games live this season how on earth do I get better football coverage in the States than I do in England?
Good one!
Nbc buying the rights was the best thing for football in the US. paying outrageous fees for FoxSoccer2go last year really drove me mad! I'll be watching at 7:45 one state up!