Liverpool Banter Archive January 16 2016

16 Jan 2016 23:04:00
Would love Kane at us, probably my dream striker at the moment. Young, quick, hungry, strong, works hard, good shot, good in the air and a good brain. Would fit into our system so well. probably worth 50 million now, especially if sterling is £49.

16 Jan 2016 23:45:26
I'd still take Aguero or Sturridge any day.

16 Jan 2016 23:48:51
I don't. I think he's fairly one-dimensional as a striker. Decent marksman, but nothing much else.

Not really technically gifted. Average pace. No advanced dribbling or other talents.

He'd be a better fit than Benteke, but so would my nan (she'd actually run more, TBH) .

I'd never pay 50m for Kane.

Far prefer Lacazette, Aubameyang, or Bacca.

17 Jan 2016 00:50:05
We have Herbie Kane if that's any conciliation?

17 Jan 2016 01:15:49
For me, Ings is made for a Klopp team. Next season he will come into his own. Keep Kane, I'll take Danny any day.

17 Jan 2016 01:37:30
Kept thinking Kane was a flash in the pan but everytime I watch his he always creates opportunities for himself even though he doesn't come across as highly skilled. Reminds me of a young shearer that can score all types of goals. If still rather a fully fit Sturridge though. ( if that's possible! )

17 Jan 2016 01:39:58
I feel that's a bit of a 1d view there for further f. o. a. r. p. I think he's got a lot of dimensions to his game. I love how he integrates with other players, he's not selfish and always looks to pick out the best option. I think for a really young player he looks like an experienced striker.

Everyone was waiting for him to stutter this season but he's offered a lot. I think he'll be essential to England in future years.

17 Jan 2016 03:21:40
Studge, or SuRez all day. Kane? I'll pass.

16 Jan 2016 17:56:24
Good grief ed002 you sure are good at finding everything that is wrong with liverpools set up. Can you do us all a favour and go sort it ouf for us. The users here would be happy to pool together a small fortune for your troubles i'm sure.

16 Jan 2016 19:34:53
It's fairly obvious what the problems are and has been for several years, as well as being widely reported in the quality media. Ed002 just possesses the intellect to be able to explain it clearly.

16 Jan 2016 20:24:35
Spotting problems is easy, fixing them is sometimes a lot harder.

16 Jan 2016 21:35:03
Fixing them is entirely the club's concern and no-one elses.

But when a wide range of sources all identify the same things and give the same potential solutions but the club does differently and the problems don't go away.

16 Jan 2016 22:29:06
When Chelsea drop points is never a great time to poke him.

17 Jan 2016 00:19:12
Quite often people like to focus on the negatives rather than look at what improvements have been made. We could be in a lot worse position ie having a high wage bill while in a relegation battle and no permanent manager.

16 Jan 2016 17:38:25
Hi eds, not a question about liverpool particular. But does a high league position say by a underdog team cause them to receive more tv $? I mean seriously most neutrals or fans of big clubs may not usually watch Leicester vs villa but now they are interested as leicester is challenging at the top of league.

{Ed002's Note - To some extent it is. Tight now, it is also impacted by the money paid to clubs hosting live games. Dealing first with the UK broadcast monies, they are divided (1) 50% equally between clubs, (2) 25% for those clubs hosting live matches, (3) 25% based on performance (league position).

The international broadcast monies are divided 100% equally between the clubs.}

16 Jan 2016 17:31:00
Hi eds, if ever klopp were to be interested in a borussia mönchengladbach player, who would it be? I ask as i think probably klopp will not buy from best bundesliga teams like bayern or Dortmund.

{Ed002's Note - Have you found Owsley's stash?}

16 Jan 2016 17:56:29
Good one ed but strangely we are into "heavy metal" isn't it?

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about. Perhaps if you Googled Augustus Owsley Stanley III it would not be lost on you.}

16 Jan 2016 19:47:09
Hi ed, i knew it! U have been smoking owsley stash all along which is why u are lost on my statement :)

What i meant was: Owsley was rock band member of Grateful Dead and made drugs. And Klopp is interested in heavy metal. So if i as liverpool fan , even if took owsley's stash, i am just doing it bcos it is a heavy metal thing. See, i am much sober than you. Do stop if u r taking lsd for sake of this site.

{Ed002's Note - I suspect you need to do rather more research Lee.}

16 Jan 2016 16:46:05
Personally my take on Caulker is that none of our defender are good enough in the air. Klopp mention in a interview that he want to press opponent to force them play high ball and this is where Caulker's strength come into play. I believe ilori was brought back based on staff's recommendation and klopp have little idea about him. After seeing first hand in training and match, he realise he's no where near fitness and far from the hype. Another defender was needed. Kolo's leg is giving in. Sakho is some sort Injury prone. Lovren have his fair share too. Skrtel still need a month and no guarantee he won't get anymore injury setback. Ilori have no future in club at all.

{Ed002's Note - If Klopp had "no idea" about one of the Liverpool players then he is 100% not up to the job at this level. Or are you simply trying to make excuses for him?}

16 Jan 2016 17:01:11
RageReds please don't try and be sensible. Everybody here thinks they are psychic and that they know for sure that the club panicked and bought Caulker when he wasn't needed or wanted.

Klopp might have over a decade of trophy laden managerial experience, but the people on this site are far more well equipped to justify signings despite knowing NONE of the facts or Klopps opinions/ plans.

Obviously I'm being sarcastic. Good post mate.

{Ed002's Note - Are you sure you want to stand by your "trophy laden managerial experience" statement. A couple of League titles a few years ago, a German cup one year and that is about it. There was also a relegation somewhere down the line. Not really "trophy laden" - far behind the likes of Souness for example.}

16 Jan 2016 17:33:35
Ed002 actually ragereds is saying klopp is not perfect and still trying to know the fringe players.

{Ed002's Note - Managers and coaches come and go and adapt and teams hopefully improve. And you think that Klopp still does not understand the strengths and weaknesses of his squad then he is far, far away from perfect or suitable for coaching at this level.

Perhaps if we gave him a year or two to learn the names of the players so he doesn't need to give them descriptive names ("the pointy-haired one", "tiny todger" etc.) he would have a better handle on what is going on?}

16 Jan 2016 17:37:42
Ilori is quick, if they hit long balls, he has the pace to cover in behind if the other centre back is strong in the air. Not saying he should start but I don't think he's a write off.

16 Jan 2016 17:39:39
Well. to my defense I said "little idea" and not "no idea". Watching player on video and report is never the same as watching it real life in training and match.

{Ed002's Note - I accept that, as you say Klopp has "little idea" about at least one of the Liverpool players. I am sure if you asked him he would agree. Perhaps not immediately if you called him by name, but perhaps if you said the "clean shaven and well groomed boy" he would know.}

16 Jan 2016 19:06:50
Tiny todger?

Why bring Harry Scouser in to it?

No need.

17 Jan 2016 00:01:42
I don't believe Caulker was a "panic" buy.

Seems to me they were negotiating with Matip and realized that a move for Matip in the summer would be cheaper and more sensible.

And once a Matip move was ruled out, they quickly moved for Caulker, who is simply a bandaid to let the team survive.

I'm thinking Klopp will favor Lovren, Sakho, and Toure over Caulker, and Caulker was just insurance to avoid having to rely on Illori, if the latter proves not EPL capable.

I don't expect Caulker to last beyond this season.

16 Jan 2016 16:05:39
Kudos to Ed's 001 you were right about Pedro he's an impact sub at best. I remember thinking that you were talking bunkum when you said he wasn't very good when Chelsea signed him and there was a sea of disapproval on this very forum. Got to hand it to you mate you have been vindicated.

{Ed001's Note - I got stick on Arsenal, Chelsea and Man Utd about it too, but thank you, it is nice to be vindicated when they don't play for us. When they play for us I want them to prove me wrong.}

16 Jan 2016 17:38:53
Same with fabregas too ed! Fairly sure you said lallana wouldn't perform at the required level before we even signed him.

16 Jan 2016 17:38:53
Same with fabregas too ed! Fairly sure you said lallana wouldn't perform at the required level before we even signed him.

{Ed001's Note - yes mate, though I am not always right, I never believed Suarez would become as good as he did. Only one person actually believed he was that good on here, so I have to say well done to him, though I have completely forgotten the name he used on here now doh. I am sure someone will remind me, as real life has meant he doesn't have the time for the sites these days sadly. He was a damn good poster as well. I am just enjoying him not being able to tell me 'I told you so!'

16 Jan 2016 18:37:01
I also remember ed002 saying he would be the best signing, replacing gerrard in the long run, everyone's human Ey ;)

16 Jan 2016 18:30:48
That's why I take Ed01 and his opinions on players' appraisal. He said Lallana, Marko, and Pedro wouldn't cut it and they didn't. He said Skrtel was pants and even I disagreed until many started to see it and now want him gone. Bravo, Ed!

{Ed001's Note - thank you mate, no one is always right like, but it is good to know I do get it right sometimes!}

16 Jan 2016 20:28:01
I believe it was mainly Blair Mayne who was the most complimentary towarfs Suarez.

16 Jan 2016 16:06:46
Kloppo turned down Manchester United. Liverpool legend already and he's only been here 101 days!

{Ed002's Note - He turned down Chelsea as well.}

16 Jan 2016 17:35:04
Try not to make everything about Chelsea ed ;)

{Ed002's Note - Good point. He also turned down Fenerbahce and Marseille - we will make it about them.}

16 Jan 2016 22:58:34
How long ago did he turn down Chelsea?

{Ed002's Note - March 2012.}

16 Jan 2016 14:38:39
Question for For the Eds, first of all hope you are well.

I am surprised by your thoughts on signing Caulker, we have Sakho and Lovren who have spent a lot the season either injured or in pretty poor form, Skrtel is out for another month or so and as much as i like Toure as a person he is a poor player, i personally thought he was at fault for Arsenals first goal when he failed to clear the ball initially, do you you not think Caulker is an upgrade on him.

Of course the jury is out but i would much prefer him to start tomorrow against Utd and for the games coming up.

Cheers

Macca.

{Ed002's Note - Toure is leaving at the end of the season to be replaced by Matip - whilst the club has had injuries at centre back they have paid for a player to come in when those injuries are no longer a major issue. Additionally they have taken Ilori back. Whilst the fans are not keen on the performances of Lovren, Klipperty is very pleased (or has been stretching the truth. As for Sakho, it would have made some sense (although one is very left sided and the other primarily plays on the right) to bring someone in on loan if the interest in buying him had not gone away - but it has. Makes zero sense to me - whereas perhaps bring Subotic in for a fee would provide a desired long term solution and a more reliable short term solution.}

16 Jan 2016 15:06:35
Whilst you say injuries not a major issue, there are lots of important games to come whilst there are question marks over Lovrens and Sakhos fitness levels especially if they are rushed back.

Do you believe Subotic is of the required quality for the long term to warrant a substantial transfer fee?

You mention costs about Caulker, i was told his wages are being subsidised, have you hear this?

Again this could come back and bite me on the arse but i believe it could be a shrewd signing.

Cheers

Macca.

{Ed002's Note - Putting aside Gomez, Liverpool still has five centre backs to use during the period of these important games - and if they don't want to "rush back" Lovren and Sakho then a left sided centre back is the cover they need - so not Caulker. Personally I am not convinced about Subotic but the interest of Klopp is known by both his representatives and Dortmund.

I am aware of the loan fee and the payment to Southampton - but not his wages.}

16 Jan 2016 15:07:47
Alright Macca, happy new year to you mate 😉.

16 Jan 2016 15:10:19
Fans are pleased with Lovren ed.

{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine.}

16 Jan 2016 15:14:45
I guess the problem there Ed is you are assuming that Subotic is a long term solution. I don't think he is. A loan for him would have been better than the loan for Caulker but it couldn't be agreed. As such a 6 month loan for Caulker makes more sense then spending more money on players who aren't long term improvement on what we have.

{Ed002's Note - I am not making that suggestion - it is Klopp who has made his interest known. A loan for Subotic was never an option - the club knew that when they enquired with Dortmund. My point is that Caulker is not required and the club has sufficient cover.}

16 Jan 2016 15:17:59
Hi macca do you have any nuggets of info which we crave?

16 Jan 2016 15:27:08
I get that Ed, but we have Man Utd, and a semi final of the league cup and potentially could have a half fit Toure and Sakho, the reason i say half fit is because i feel he would be if pushed to play 3 or 4 games back to back, Toure that is.

And you could also argue right side is as important as Lovren and Sakho can cover the left side and only Toure can cover right.

I get your points fully but was just surprised how against the signing you guys where.

Lets wait and see, but i think it may be shrewder than we all think, 24 year old desperate to make a good impression who was also highly thought of a while.

Its all about opinions i suppose.

Fingers crossed we can beat Utd tomorrow, i think we will beat beat them comfortably, hope i am right.

Take care Eds.

Cheers

Macca.

{Ed002's Note - It is simply a case of him not being required as far as I see it - particularly given that the club paid for Ilori to return from loan to do exactly the same thing and they could dip in to the mass of youngsters should they become really desperate. There is a practical limit as to how many players a club needs in each position. From my perspective the more than 40 first team squad players Liverpool now finds itself with means that there are too many and some must be fearing for their long term future.}

16 Jan 2016 15:29:00
I've likened the Caulker loan to that of when we loaned Paul Jones. It was a stopgap for want of a better phrase. I don't expect to get much gametime to be honest he's necessary cover.

16 Jan 2016 15:49:47
I totally agree that the squad is far too big and by all accounts the quality isn't there either.

I believe it gives Klopp the chance to look at the likes of lori and see if he thinks they can make the grade.

Anyway Ed thanks for getting back to me, i will let you go as i believe you have more problems at your club to try and fix take care mate.

Cheers

Macca.

{Ed002's Note - Thanks Macca - Chelsea do indeed have problems of their own. Enjoy your weekend.}

16 Jan 2016 15:50:56
Valid points by macca re amount of games coming up and toure legs giving way. Caulker is a big lump of a bloke who does well inthe air unlike one or two we have now, i'm prepared to give the lad a chance let's see his desire in a red shirt before people slate him off.

16 Jan 2016 15:51:47
Ed. just in reply to your comment about a few first team players now fearing for their future. Could that not be seen as a good thing? Maybe they now fully realise that they have to up their game to be a part of LFC's future.

{Ed002's Note - Every club wants their players to up their game but you also want to build an environment where they are happy to be and to work. Take Teixeira for example, what future does he have? What will he be thinking no he is 22 or 23. He has been at the club for four years and had a good season on loan with Brighton last year before injury. He is back, he is fit, he wants to do well, much is expected of him - any chance at Liverpool? Nada right now.}

16 Jan 2016 15:54:12
Hi ED02

I understand your point on Liverpool having cover in the sense that we have central defenders but as another poster said, we are weeks away from having skrtel back. Toure is adequate as back up but seems to get injured very regularly despite little football and lovren is still out.

I suppose i'm just a bit surprised at the dismissive attitude many seem to have to what is a low risk move for caulker, although he doesn't seem to be any great solution. In your opinion, was there a better available solution anywhere barring subotic?

This is getting too long now i know, but i really don't want to see lucas or can shoehorned into the defence again, i don't believe many do and it seems as if there isn't an academy player that fits. Whilst the acquisition of caulker looks a bit desperate, the team had to have another body in there.

{Ed002's Note - So your argument seems surround Toure not being good enough or a suggestion he will get injured again. I am not so sure that Liverpool need cover for Ilori who is cover for Toure who is cover for Skrtel and all of this kicks in when Lovren is injured and there is no one to partner Sakho.}

16 Jan 2016 16:25:50
It's hard to see Caulker as anything but a kick in the teeth for Ilori. I imagine he was at least somewhat excited to come back only to be effectively replaced by Caulker within 48 hours. Not sure I agree with loaning Caulker either, but I can also see why Klopp might have not been completely convinced by Ilori either.

With respect to the bloated squad (and it is very bloated), about how many do most see moving on in the summer? I figure around 10 and perhaps even more than that.

{Ed001's Note - it does seem odd that we pay a fee to terminate Ilori's loan then immediately go and sign a defender on loan rendering him surplus.}

16 Jan 2016 16:10:28
Good point well made. Under Klopp and certainly recently I have seen him On the bench which is a progressive move. Maybe he should of started at Exeter?
Could it be his transition into a Klopp thinking player hasn't hit home yet? Maybe he's adjusting to the high pressing game?
Always appreciate the return.

16 Jan 2016 16:30:44
I do take your point completely Ed02

But anyone that watched ilori come off the pitch absolutely shattered after an hour against exeter would justifiably be worried. Could he manage to get himself into the right shape to play 90 minutes in the league quite soon? Genuine question.

I know my argument is based on if kolo gets injured but there's a fairly solid chance he will. If there aren't youth team players to take up the slack then i think it's sensible if not ideal. Thanks for your reply Ed.

{Ed002's Note - I understand completely - Ilori was a mistake originally and after two years is no different - I have explained that on a number of occasions. Regardless, clubs should look to improve and, as I have said, I don't see a player who cannot get a game with either a Championship side nor Southampton as the right solution.}

16 Jan 2016 16:59:18
Total agreement with that conclusion, seems like a bit of a sticky wicket to deal with. Perhaps it could have been sorted out in a better way though.

{Ed002's Note - I like you idea of Liverpool forming a cricket team with all over the padding they have in the squad. Caulker is pretty tall - a bowler perhaps?}

16 Jan 2016 17:21:31
Haha, nice one Ed.

I'm Irish so i'm not entirely sure where i pulled that odd cricket reference from. Seemed appropriate at the time i suppose!

Have a good weekend, thanks for your replies.

{Ed002's Note - Enjoy. Thanks.}

16 Jan 2016 19:45:46
Guys you're all wrong, Caulker is a replacement for Benteke not any of these centre backs! Kloppster made that very clear! ;)

16 Jan 2016 19:40:07
Re subotic - ed02 - I've read that dortmund blocked a move to lfc- mayve loan- aby truth? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - They would not leave him leave on a loan to buy deal which is what Liverpool wanted.}

16 Jan 2016 12:43:29
I'm starting to worry that their might be some legs to this rumour about Liverpool trying to bring in Shane Long.

Southampton have just signed Charlie Austin - and for four million as well, by the sounds of it - could this possibly be the first step to us signing Long?

Maybe Southampton wanted a replacement before allowing a deal to go through.

If we do sign him, if at all, I'm hoping it's a loan move rather than a permanent. My impression of Shane Long is that he is an older version of Danny Ings, with an added layer of inconsistency and a poor finisher to boot. There is no doubting Long's dedication and hard work but I don't think he is what is needed.

And, if we do sign him, then I think that will very much be the end of Benteke at Liverpool. I honestly don't know how I would feel about that. The boy certainly has ability but lacks the drive to succeed and push himself to bring out his very best.

Let's all just hope for the best and fingers crossed for Sunday. I honestly think we'll win, but I have been wrong before.

By the way great work as always ED's, hope you have a great year.

16 Jan 2016 13:09:22
Long just signed for Saints. In order words: he'll be ours in the summera of -17. 😃.

16 Jan 2016 13:49:34
Imo a loan would be good business as we need firepower because injuries, but a permanent deal wiuld be stupid.

16 Jan 2016 15:55:19
I don't think long is a bad fit to be honest he's a grafter and puts himself about unlike mr benteke who really needs to look at himself an ask questions before he becomes a reject.

16 Jan 2016 12:09:02
Morning all,

Was wondering if Steven Caulker could be used as a deep lying mid-fielder against Utd to tackle the balls into side show bob? When we are under pressure, he could then drop into the centre half making us very hard to breakdown!

Not the Klopp way but he might come with something new for the Utd game!

{Ed002's Note - Why not, he certainly isn't needed as a centre back and Klipperty could perhaps play him out of position in order to somehow try and justify what is otherwise a waste of money on a particularly stupid loan.}

16 Jan 2016 12:42:20
Well Ed fair play to you for giving the deal a chance before you put the boot in. Aren't the Eds always bitching about the fans not giving players etc a chance before getting stuck in?

{Ed001's Note - what is there to give a chance to? A player we didn't need to cover for injuries that have healed....}

16 Jan 2016 12:27:35
Don't hold back there ed002 lol

I get the feeling you'd rather seem someone at the club get a chance before any more loans are brought in.

Anyhow, Klopp is going to use him as a reserve centre forward for when we throw the ball into the mixer lol.

{Ed002's Note - It was a really dumb move - throwing money away when there was no need for the player. If the club was that keen they could have done something with a target who would be an improvement for the club. I appreciate the club did not have the money available to do taht but then you simply make do until folks are fit.}

16 Jan 2016 12:31:48
As if Jurgen Klopp needs to justify anything. He was brought in because we have a lot of games in short space of time and most of our cbs are injured or unable to play every game due to ongoing niggles.
I'd say just his cameo role against Arsenal proved enough.
Don't get why you think you know better than the manager of Liverpool?
Sure Klopp is devastated you think his signing is stupid. haha 🙈.

16 Jan 2016 12:33:12
Saucer of milk for Ed002 😄.

{Ed002's Note - So you think pissing away money the club doesn't have on a player the club doesn't need is good business?}

16 Jan 2016 13:01:20
No I don't but then I'm not in a position to judge what the club needs. Klopp obviously thought we needed cover and I'm not going to argue with that.
It's a loan deal he'll be gone in the summer.

{Ed002's Note - So Klipperty was wrong and he made an expensive mistake.}

16 Jan 2016 13:05:02
Unless Sakho is on the move/ loan away Ed.

{Ed002's Note - The club know that the interest in Sakho has gone for now.}

16 Jan 2016 13:11:58
Maybe? Time will tell. If we get 3 injuries tomorrow to defenders it could be a good move.
My personal opinion is Klopp does not have the opportunity to do any good transfer business in this window. We have a bloated squad, too many mediocre players who will never fit in Klopp's plans.
But money is tight, too much was wasted in the last 18 months. Clubs are not very willing to sell in January and players are cup-tied. No-one wants to sign our unwanted players.
There will be movement in the summer but for now we have to make to with loan deals to provide cover for injuries/ fitness.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has a vastly bloated first team squad with more than 40 players to chose from after bring folks back from loan. Then they could dip in to the under 21s if needs be. It smacks of incompetence.}

16 Jan 2016 13:22:31
Ed, your opinion is valid but only to a point. Klopp may have felt we needed cover so as to allow for the injured CB's enuff time to heal and not have to rush them back. He'd had mentioned that Sahko wasn't fully fit at the time and wasn't sure Kolo would be fit after he had cramps vs the Saints. He didn't wanna take chances and was defo not going to play Enrique, Ilori or Lucas at CB. I don't fully agree with the move but understand why he did it. We will get our CB in the summer. Until then, everyone should just calm down and stop with the petulant bickering.

{Ed002's Note - So Klipperty got it wrong and screwed up. I am not denying that.}

16 Jan 2016 13:37:26
Eds 02- I completely agree. The Arsenal game proved it. That was going to be the game we would struggle inot when you look at the injuries. After that the players where slowly going to come back. Caulker only featured for the last few minutes and that was as a makeshift centre forward, that's how needed he was. I don't get that fans say we loaned him because he was cheap! Wouldn't of saved more money not having more unnecessary wages to pay? This will run into the millions. How did Flanno get his break? Oh yes, through injuries to first reamers. That's the way it goes. Besides the fact that it makes a mockery of recalling all the loaned players if your just going to get another player in.

16 Jan 2016 13:52:06
We need cover until Matip arrives. Its not about having bo money.

{Ed002's Note - Clubs do not get cover for players who are not at the club. The club is run but incompetents, but they are not that stupid. Who do you think Liverpool should buy as cover for Wayne Rooney?}

16 Jan 2016 14:17:00
Well God forbid the manager we all dreamed of getting 2ould be allowed manage and make the changes he thinks are right.
Would be different if we had great CBs coming back from injury but they haven't set the world alight especially on set pieces. Maybe our new manager wants to try someone he thinks can do better and is willing to take a chance especially as he got that player on loan. I'd give Klopp the benefit as he's a better manager than most of us on here.

{Ed002's Note - Not by the evidence we have seen so far. And if Klipperty thinks Caulker is the Messiah perhaps he should have played him when he had the opportunity against Arsenal. Thinking about it, perhaps Klipperty is giving Caulker 6 months to settle in before starting him.}

16 Jan 2016 14:17:09
We know that Matip is a likely replacement for Toure in the summer on a free.
Could it be that we are looking to move on another CB (Skrtel or Lovren? ) and Caulker is on a 6 month trial (loan) then we end up with 4 CB of
Matip
Sakho
Lovren
Caulker
I personally would take that. I know its costing us a bit of money in paying Caulkers wages but would cost us far less than the current clamering for spending 20+mill (that lfc haven't got) on a CB.
For me I would give Caulker a chance we have given far worse a chance.
On a wider point think there will be more activity in the summer outbound, but fewer coming in but what we do buy will be quality to raise the level of the team.

{Ed002's Note - Matip is far from "free". Caulker is not on a trial, he is on a loan, there is no "to buy" option which there would be if he is on a "trial". It is more than simply his wages Liverpool are paying.

I suspect that there are betters ways to spend your day than looking for excuses for Klipperty screwing up.}

16 Jan 2016 14:20:29
It does seem a strange signing, and it is one I think Klopp got wrong personally. He may come in handy with 2 of our CBs being so injury prone but pointless having brought back Ilori regardless of his match fitness.

16 Jan 2016 14:29:14
I don't think anyone can judge whether it was a waste of money yet. If he ends up playing because he's needed and helps us win games then it was a cheap option to solve a potential issue. If he barely gets a sniff of the first team by the time the loan expires then it would be a waste but for the sake of 6 months wages and a small fee it's hardly going to be the deal which sends us bankrupt.

16 Jan 2016 14:44:35
Klopp himself saif that premier league experience and aerial ability was key. As such, was there a much better option for less ir no money without compromising the midfield, i. e using Can? No, don't think so. Let the lad play before calling him a waste of money.

16 Jan 2016 15:02:26
I agree with Swish.

Anyway, Caulker is not the Messiah, we all know Ilori is 😇.

16 Jan 2016 15:11:43
Ed Are we buying Rooney in the summer?

{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware., But he is one of many players not at the club. The suggestion that Liverpool are taking players on loan as cover for those not at the club is completely preposterous.}

16 Jan 2016 15:25:54
Maybe I should have been more specific. In my opinion we signed Caulker as cover "for our current centre backs" until Matip arrives in the summer. Sakho and Lovren get injured a bit, Ilori and Toure aren't any better than Caulker in my opinion.

{Ed002's Note - It is nothing whatsoever to do with Matip and the club had already paid to take Ilori back from loan to do that.}

16 Jan 2016 15:25:29
Was it a waste of money Chelsea taking Falcoa on loan?

{Ed002's Note - Brilliant, this is exactly the sort of cretinous post that does indeed make so many Liverpool fans a laughing stock. It is cringe worthy and embarrassing to yet again see someone bring Chelsea in to this. Even the Manchester United fans who can read will see this as absolutely hopeless.}

16 Jan 2016 15:34:54
So presumably he thinks Ilori is not good enough? I think he had to be brought back as he was rotting away in Villa.

{Ed002's Note - Well he should have known that in advance and saved the club the money to buy him out of the Aston Villa deal.}

16 Jan 2016 15:47:15
How would he know in advance as Ilori was loaned before Klopp cane in. And its not like he could watch how he was playing at Villa.

{Ed002's Note - He has a vast organization of staff around him to provide such information - or are they also not up to it.}

16 Jan 2016 15:51:59
The lad has not played for Villa all season so are the vast organization of staff meant to go to the Aston Villa training ground to watch him?

{Ed002's Note - Yes, that is what other clubs do. I appreciate Liverpool is poorly run in respect of dealing with players on loan, but other clubs are on top of and completely aware what is going on.}

16 Jan 2016 15:57:16
Has caulker done something wrong to you ed2? Sorry but your well out of order.

{Ed002's Note - What is "out of order" about explaining he is not needed at the club. Suddenly this centre back who can't get a game with a championship side is loaned out to a Premier League side and can't get a game with them either is the savior of Liverpool? Great stuff - scraping the barrel and you think it is a good job. Liverpool should be looking to move the squad forward improving it as they go. I don't think they are doing that - but I am surprised you think they are and I am "out of order".

16 Jan 2016 16:12:07
He can play in the championship but they don't want to pay such high wages.

{Ed001's Note - is he good enough to get in the team down there anyway?}

16 Jan 2016 16:22:31
I presume so. We will know how good he really is soon.

{Ed001's Note - well he was crap for Spurs, crap for Swansea, crap for QPR and far worse for Southampton, I think we already know how 'good' he really is to be honest. We just have to hope that Klopp can improve him.}

16 Jan 2016 16:01:26
Fair enough lol.

16 Jan 2016 16:31:12
Hi eds getting away from the caulker mistake how good is matip I've never really seen him play and just wondered if he's an improvement on the current cbs we have? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - He is a good, cheap replacement for Toure - no longer the first pick at Schalke but certainly in the reckoning. He is good in the air but If he is to be first choice then I would not be confident. Apparently over his temptation to dribble out of trouble.}

16 Jan 2016 17:39:02
Klopp did say that Mama was highly unlikely to play 3 games in a row for the rest of the season. Seems like he'll need some kind of operation in the summer. Lovren injured, Toure on his last legs. Hence the need for Ilori and Caulker.

{Ed002's Note - Might need an operation in the summer, on his last legs - pitiful.}

16 Jan 2016 11:04:59
Let the ridicule begin, I'm in rose tinted full on deluded scouser mode. My prediction is Spurs to draw today, Liverpool to win 5-0 tomorrow. Sweet dreams Sunday night and banish the Monday morning blues by looking at the league table and seeing us above United and 3pts off 4th place.

16 Jan 2016 14:56:15
I do hope your lfc prediction is a lot closer than your Spurs one!

16 Jan 2016 19:18:08
Got that one wrong didn't I. I do think we'll win tomorrow, though I know it won't be 5-0.

16 Jan 2016 10:24:48
Questions for Ed001 please.

I've tried the search function.

Do you know what's going on with Sturridge? The last I heard he was doing his own pre season. Klopp isn't giving much away and I'm confused about the situation. I've tried google and the search function so your reply would be appreciated.

Also, what would you do with him? Surely a player can't continue with this amount of luck.

Cheers.

{Ed001's Note - he is injured. I would keep him and try and get him fit.}

16 Jan 2016 11:34:56
Ed is this a new injury after ds came out a couple of weeks ago and said he was ready to go.

{Ed001's Note - yes, it was mentioned by the club at the time.}

16 Jan 2016 09:07:08
Big Rumour
ED002 is searching for a house in the Liverpool area and it has come to light he is Pato and Shane Longs agent.

16 Jan 2016 04:34:22
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