Liverpool Banter Archive June 16 2013

16 Jun 2013 22:02:23
Got a feeling that if Suarez stays his first game back would prob be against the mancs, looking forward to fixtures on Wednesday. K. J.

Or Chelsea.

Alfie

16 Jun 2013 21:55:47
Hi Ed can you confirm all the ins and outs of Liverpool so far this summer? Has anything actually been completley or is it all just rumours, great site cheers {Ed030's Note - Confirmed/ not Official:
Toure,Aspas(Agreed). }

16 Jun 2013 21:43:37
The Mkhitayan deal seems very likely, most papers claiming he is valued at 22mil and we have bid between 17-20m, how much are shaktar willing to move off on their 22mil valuation, I don't believe they have financial trouble and surely a couple of other clubs would possibly move for mkhitaryan, like juve?

16 Jun 2013 21:28:54
I'm sorry for another Suarez related post but there's just something I wanted to say. If Fabio Borini was going around biting people and making stupid comments in every interview he gave would people be defending him? don't get me wrong Suarez is a top quality footballer but nobody is bigger than the club.

16 Jun 2013 22:21:14
really. man city, UTD, cheslsea and lots other clubs have been higher up the order.
Pls. No more. slogan. ". no one is bigger. no one is bigger. "

I think Harry that he means no player is bigger than the club. Not no club is bigger than our club.

Nevada

I don't think that's the point of the phrase Harry

16 Jun 2013 21:17:50
If BR signs Ilori, how will Wisdom fit in? Ilori will be a youth/3rd choice cb but that's where Wisdom should be. Would like to hear your thoughts on this.

Wisdom will be 4th choice cb but 2nd choice rb as that is his prefered position

Maybe you can wait to see what BR does.

This is why I like wisdom and Kelly both can cover the centerback and right back position. Heck I think we can play well with 3 good cb and have Johnson and Enrique bombing down the wings.

Ilori will be our RB, Wisdom our CB of the future. Kelly is injury prone and will be the backup

16 Jun 2013 20:41:53
Ed002 just a quick response to something you mentioned earlier about Alberto, Aspas and HM would suffice for LFC in the event of Suarez leaving. Do you think they will replace Suarez? Only you previously mentioned an enquiry for Benteke suggesting they may look to buy another striker.

Many thanks

Chris {Ed002's Note - The club will not keep adding forward players.}

Were looking to bring in Benteke and Higuain and also keep Suarez.

16 Jun 2013 21:00:25
disney pl is terrible, not just because you win it, what does that say about us in seventh. its a fact. would a 40 year old giggs have got in to man u team 10 years ago, no is answer. same with scholes. cleverly is tripe. carrick I have to say has improved, but out classed in europe. look at pl teams in cl last season. 4 cl wins for pl sides, all lucky ones last min goals, crazy comebacks and on pens. now even further behind, no pl side will beat b munich or barca next season. that's why I said Liverpool have a great chance to climb up the league this season, are we a strong 11 or 18, no way but neither are are arsenal or spurs. chelsea will be better under special one but going back to old clubs usually ends in disaster. roll on next season.

B O H

Even if you bought the players you are linked to and kept Suarez, I do not see Liverpool getting in the top four. I think 6th is the best Liverpool can hope for next season. I think some Liverpool fans are in danger of building themselves up for a great fall. Liverpool will inevitably lose that fear factor which you had with Torres, then again with Suarez. You will lose the big characters in the dressing room like Reina & Carragher.

I am putting no pressure on Moyes to win anything next season, so I cannot be disappointed. He will need a season to get his feet under the table and if he wins anything it will be a bonus. However I feel MU fans will be pleasantly surprised next season. If he can fix the obvious issues like LB area and the midfield, then we can only be stronger than last season.

Disney!

Haha moyes is under more pressure than anyone next year and tbh disney I don't think it matters wether you are putting pressure on him or not. if he doesn't do well the fans will want his head utd fans can't take a loss without freaking out

You got lucky with Man City and Chelsea flopping. You guys won't have the same Fergie effect to comeback and win from losing positions like you were for the first, what? 15 or so games. Not looking good for you guys to retain the title Disney.

17 Jun 2013 00:41:32
United are finished. They will spend years in the doldrums and their fans will not be able to handle it. Football works in cycles, and Moyes most certainly isn't a good replacement for old whiskey nose. he's won NOTHING, ZILCH, ZERO, Nicht, NEIN, nothing in 11 years.

United are heading for mid table position, or even worse. If I was you disney, start practising some humility because its a new art that your going to need. Moyes will destroy United, he bottles it EVERY time there is an important game to win. The only way is down now

Tel 1949

I'm with Tel here, nobody is going to experience a harsh crash to earth like United next year. You like to believe that your team is the best in the league but your players are mainly average, you just had a world class manager to make them play better much better than they are. That's gone now and Moyes is no Ferguson.

Nevada

Try practising a bit of humility yourself, Tel 1949, and show a bit of class. Utd haven't lost anything yet and we certainly haven't won anything. It's way too early to start laughing at the Mancs. This sort of post (and Waro trying to rub Manc faces in non-existent s***)makes us all look like persons if it doesn't happen

cozinoz

16 Jun 2013 20:59:00
I know it's been asked a lot but do YOU think we will sign Mkhitaryan?

If you know its been asked a lot, you will know its also been answered a lot!
RTFP please :-)

16 Jun 2013 20:32:21
what a player andrea pirlo is, and a fine beard aswell {Ed030's Note - J this is for Liverpool banter sorry mate,This is the perfect opportunity to tell you this page is for football in general http://www.player-ratings.co.uk/football-match-talk.php I would appreciate it if you and everybody else could post on the match talk please mate as It helps more people post on the match talk page if there is other posts thanks. }

16 Jun 2013 20:08:49
Eds please answer with your respected opinion, and other posters please.

Suarez circus. Latest sounds like he staying. I mean the club have said neither he or agent have contacted them re moving.
He mentions his family are settled. His daughter sings YNWA. When RM propaganda paper question him playing for Madrid he says they are a top team a dream of young boys etc, but do you know what is like to play for Liverpool? He said Liverpool was his dream as a boy.
Is he back tracking because RM are linked with Bale Isco Cavani etx and others which mean they cannot be spending £200m surely buying all these so he may miss out?
Is he back tracking due to his agent or LFC official having a long overdue word?
Has this just been a joke for Luis to waste press time and get them back in a small way?
Is he seeing the players coming in, loves LFC and thinks one more yr and can see top 4 finish

The players incoming are required as BR said to add depth and improve. Aspas is a deal which must of started a while before Suarez press chats so not a replacement. FSG are backing Rodgers as promised so are we not relying on Suarez going to fund but staying to push for top4. {Ed030's Note - I think he will leave mate he is trying not to upset Liverpool fans as I think he genuinely Likes the club but if he loved it enough he wouldn't go so I am unsure what to make of it mate. }

I think and hope he stays, he's under contract. (Think his wife has had a word in his ear)
I realise some players, it would be a waste of time retaining them under such circumstances but Luis is the type of player that would find it impossible to sulk as once he's out on that pitch he just wants to play.
Lfc our club needs CL qualification more than we need to get rid of Suarez.
So club 1st, player 2nd and keep him.
We have to get top4! it's means everything to our club 5 time European Champions.

We need to get rid of Suarez ASAP.

Last thing we need is a mentally unstable player who will be banned for a chunk of the season and perpetuate the media circus. And let's be honest there will be another incident.

16 Jun 2013 22:23:59
Kidmillions.

excellent reply. Top draw. most here have forgot the fact that we need CL. and to get that. we need to beat. teams like chelsea, UTD arsenal and city.
and for that you need top quality players.

Thanks ED030 for the reply, I posted the question (unsigned in error)

It is difficult to judge isn't it. One minute I think he'll go, then I think he's just taking the P out of the press and he'll stay.

Even his chats are 50/50 yo can read them either way

Carlo

Are you serious? Yes we need CL football but Suarez as been here for 2 and a half seasons and we haven't gotten there yet.

When we last won the European Cup we didn't have any of our previous 30 goals a season strikers (Owen had already left and Torres didn't come yet)

Nothing is wrong with the goals being spread among 5 or 6 players, what is important is that they come. We don't NEED Suarez, what we need is balance and players who work hard for each other and for the team even when games aren't going our way.

People keep on talking about how hard Suarez will work once he gets back on the pitch but we seem to have forgotten that he'll be out there with 10 team mates. What about them? How will they view the man playing alongside them knowing he doesn't want to be there? What will they think when they see him sulking during games (and he does).

Give me a rock solid defense over a wantaway world class striker any day.

16 Jun 2013 19:54:31
Hi Eds

I have supported the Reds for many years now, I rememeber the glory days of Dalglish, Rush and Paisley.

What has been apparent throughout all this time is that the one thing Liverpool nearly always achieve is creating excellent centre forwards and goalscorers. I am not sure whether we have been lucky over time or whether we have been very shrewd.

However nearly all the forwards Liverpool have had have excelled and surpassed the club and even their own expectations. This I believe is solely due to the support and encouragement of the Liverpool faithfull, sucessful Liverpool centre forwards are given almost a god like position within the club, and historically they play with no fear and full of confidence.

So what I an getting too is that whether Suarez goes or stays will make no difference to the club, however will make a massive difference to the player. Take a look at Rush, Aldridge, Owen, Fowler, Torres, who all reached their peak at Liverpool. They never reached the goal scoring achievements at Liverpool before they arrived at the club or when they finally left. So I am confident who ever replaces Suarez will suceed, as long as they have the ability and attitude then they will be successful, and I also believe, as with Rush, Owen and Torres, Suarez will never reach the goal scoring heights he reached at Liverpool.

So let's say goodbye to Suarez, wish him luck and as the old saying goes "the king is dead, long live the king" and welcome the next new big center forward to the club.

Its Suarez loss not ours.

Evered

Well said that man, I couldn't agree more.
buck dodgers

Good post red, its all about the having the right mindset, We are Liverpool, I would tell Suarez to find a club who will pay the 45/50 million, and that he has played his last game for us, see what he says to the media after that,
redforever

Suarez at Ajax: Apps - 110 Goals - 81

That's a scoring rate of 0. 73 goals per game

At Liverpool: Apps - 77 Goals 38

That's a goal ratio of 0. 49 goals per game.

So not all Liverpool strikers reached their peak at Liverpool.

So you could really argue

Fantastic post mate and spot on.

It's not our loss losing the top goalscorer?

It's Suarez' loss potentially moving to Real Madrid?

It's a good post, but let's be real.

A journalist today stated that after observing a Uruguay training game, Suarez didn't even look out of breath. Add that to his sheer class and commitment and that, to me, confirms it is our loss.

DaveyBootle

It's not a fantastic post at all babel was awesome in Dutch league kromkamp seemed a decent player and there's others too I think dirk Kuyt was top scorer 2 seasons on the bounce before joining us, the Dutch league is a relatively poor league in comparison so you would expect a very good striker to go over there and have a good goals to game ratio.

Fester

Agree completely. Look to the future.

There is a teenager out there who will be the next Lewandowski or Falcao. Let's concentrate on finding him

You really can't compare Suarez Ajax stats to Liverpool. I mean altidore can score 30 goals in the Dutch league doesn't mean he could do the same if he came to Liverpool.

Et

Spot on lad!

16 Jun 2013 19:46:38
Question for the regular posters on here, off the topic of transfer rumours. Who do you reckon were the stand-out players this season just gone who didn't get the praise they deserved? As much as it pains me to say it, I'd probably go with Carrick for United, he was consistently brilliant.

JFT 96

JP

Agree on Carrick, thought Cazorla was really good for his 1st season.

Sturridge since Xmas and mata all season


Glad sissoko had a poor season at Newcastle as I feared we missed a trick.

Barns wos best

Coutinho for us

Mitchu for 90% of the season he at £2.7m is a bargain, to the point that in restored faith in picking up players unknown and having a belief they could be another Mitchu

Carlo

Mata, Michu, Lukaku, Cazorla and Carrick all had very good seasons.

I thought Jan Verthonghen was outstanding last season.

The real AG

I agree vertonghen just oozes class for a center back. The goal he scored when he played a one two with bale was amazing control and composure. It was similar to Suarez Newcastle goal.

16 Jun 2013 19:34:05
With regards to Suarez quite clearly in the press stating 'the club need to listen to the player in situations like this' isn't that as good as handing in a transfer request and can the club not penalise him financially accordingly? It just seems strange to me that even though the players seem to supposedly have all the power these days they can get away with trouncing the rules so blatantly!
de neen

I think that Liverpool Fc are playing this the right way, saying nothing, and letting Suarez talk his way into everyones bad books, the media don't like that he has let this great club, and fans down, and badly, after backing him every time he has messed up, so just let him talk, and ignore him, for as long as possible, I say this, even though I was one of his biggest fans, and now feel that he has let us all down.
redforever

16 Jun 2013 19:09:37
Hi Ed's & Macca,

I've heard from my source that suggests should Suarez leave, Liverpool would reinvest that by breaking the bank to sign Eric Lamela.

Although I know it seems farfetched I am inclined to believe him because of previous information & how Lamela would very much fit into our system (4-3-3 & 4-2-3-1)

He is also incredibly creative & quick out of the blocks like Suarez, and seems to have an eye for goal. I know your feelings on the chances suggest you don't think we have a chance, However has any new information come to light for yourselves? or Macca?

the club seems to be increasingly watertight in terms of information going out, However you can always rely on the selling club 'leaking' information in order to start a bidding frenzy so perhaps maybe anything from Roma? or Lamela's agent?

Hey el pistolero

Haven't been on here for a while but I posted a spoof post on banter about 3 weeks ago asking who alonso was and proclaiming to be a supporter for 30 years- you were the only one who appeared to appreciate the banter and offered a very witty response. Well played lad.

I recall being hammered by some chap called Ali g who failed to see the funny side.


Barnes was best.

I hope so Pistelero because we need someone. The thought of Aspas replacing Suarez makes me want to spew up my lasagne. But, with the club inquiring on the availability of Benteke this gives me hope. At least they are monitoring players

16 Jun 2013 18:58:19
I put a lot of effort into a post earlier only to see it has not been published : ( where is it eds? I really wanted t hear what you guys and other posters thought of my opinion and predictions

Young Baller {Ed002's Note - I would expect it has been put on the team page where it belongs.}

16 Jun 2013 18:24:17
Mignolet, Aspas and Toure upto now. These players won't dramatically improve the squad. Talk of top 4 this season is ridiculous. I hope these players are being done quickly because the quality signings will be arriving once Carroll Skrtel and Suarez are sold. You'll all probably pop your heads out from Brendans a** now and have a go, but the fact is Spurs Arsenal and Everton still have better players than us, which is why we are ATM a mid table side

Couldn't agree more and they are yet to buy! I also understand bale will stay as well!

I have a feeling you're going to be very disappointed then.

My suspicion is that what we recover from Suarez, Skrtel, Reina, and Carroll will just about cover Aspas, Ilori, Mkhitaryan, Mignolet, Alberto, and Toure's signing fee. I wouldn't expect much more except perhaps another CB as 3rd choice (but not an expensive one like Papadopoulos).

"Ignorant post! Ignoring a number of factors"
Sturridge and Coutinho arrived in January from which time we played on a par with and better than a top4 side.
When Coutinho and Sturridge settle in properly we will see them in an even better light.
Aspas and Mickey if they happen look like they'll be shrewd and class signings that will make us even stronger than we were in the 2nd half of last season.

16 Jun 2013 18:15:21
Okay guys, I went to the sunderland page and posted this, just check out the reply of their ed!

Liverpool fan coming in peace. Just wanted to know how much you all rate Mignolet as he is 'close' to sign for LFC according to numerous sources. Views from the Sunderland based ed as well as Sunderland fans will be appreciated.

Cheers
VGRed {Ed024's Note - I rate Migs in top 3 in premiership - his one weakness is his lack of physical presence - he doesn't intimidate forwards - but shot stopping, positioning, communication - top notch. }

Also all of Sunderland fans weren't moaning about him leaving and believed that he is one of the best keepers in the league. I for one will be happy if we sign him!
I'd like the thoughts of fellow reds and the Liverpool supporting eds too.

Cheers

For me, the only loss in loosing pepe and gaining minolet (spelling) is the distribution. He is a top keeper though.

Realistic red

I would describe Mignolet as a 'safe' keeper. Like Begovic he is a safe pair of hands. Nothing flashy, not world-class, nor has the potential to be, but a good pair of safe hands.

Disney!

Not as dominant as Begovic but a very very good keeper and has at least 10 years left at the top level. He was the main reason Sunderland stayed up imo. Happy to have him.

Bulmer

Agree with what has already been said the only 1 problem I see is his distribution like most goalkeepers not just in the epl but in the world are no where near as good as Reina. But overall is a very good choice.

I would say a lot safer than your doughnut clown Disney.

Not to many world class keepers about IMO Disney but a safe pair of hands would do me fine.

Sunderland fans I've always found to be quite knowledgeable and I would say in 3rd place behind Liverpool and Arsenal fans.
That's been my experience over the years.
Liverpool
Arsenal
Sunderland
Crewe
Southampton
West Ham
Celtic
City
Villa

Mignolet is still a young keeper, and will learn a lot from playing for Liverpool FC, they will work on his weak points, and while I was a pepe Reina fan, he was poor over the last 2/3 seasons, only came back to form after January this last season, maybe to put himself in the shop window, so over a season, maybe Mignolet is the better goalie
redforever

Sign him! Mignolet is Belgian. every team needs a Belgian. they're the rising power in Europe now. hehe

16 Jun 2013 17:41:28
Hey Ed, I see Alberto replacing maybe assaidi on the bench with Aspas and Mickey being rotated in the first team. Which is good. very in fact however,

My biggest issue is, now that papadopoulos may not happen and toby is most probably heading to benfica or leverkusen (not too sure which one), who do we end up with? Do we have an interest in any one else? {Ed002's Note - Ilori.}

So our replacements gor carra and possibly skrtel and coates is kolo toure 33 getting released from a team that we aspire to be as good as next season? And tiago ilori a young guy that will need time, also with lisbon didn't get a regular game and finished 4th in superliga.

16 Jun 2013 17:38:45
Any chance us going for Honda or Douglas? Both free agents, both good players

We can't buy everyone. If we wanted Honda then we could have him, he is out of contract in January 2014.

16 Jun 2013 17:08:15
On 1-10 what are the chances of us getting Henrik Mkhitaryan, Ed?
SpionSteve {Ed052's Note - we wont do that type of rating. We tell you what we know}

16 jun 2013 16:11:23
tv reporting we're closing in on mickey nice! going to be the best transfer window yet nice of rodgers to get it done early

Yes mickey ryan could turn out to be a great player for us.
redforever

Loved Mickey since I was a kid. my favourite Disney character

15 Jun 2013 19:57:56
Any of the Liverpool eds are you shocked by suarez interview comments?

I mean I knew he had It in him but this is getting beyond a joke! So disrespectful to fans that have stuck by him through all his crap. I thought he would appreciate it more but guess not.

Suarez can FSG off now. I don't even wanna wish him luck he's shown that much disrespect he could of left and fans would of understood! But this is just ridiculous.

Sorry about the rant haha

London red {Ed019's Note - It's disappointing, but he did the same to join Liverpool. /he is trying to backtrack now just in case RM decide to go for Cavani, Bale or Lewandowski}

I hope we sell him to be honest the club stuck by him and this is how he repays is, if he wanted to leave then he should of had a word with the Manger behind closed doors rather than shouting his mouth off, someone will buy him this summer weather that's Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Juventus, Atheltico Madrid, PSG, Monaco or 1 of the Russian clubs, the club should demand the same fee we got for Torres but I feel it may well drag on and the club will end up accepting £40M which is a good price considering his attitude problems. Top 3 or 4 is my prediction next Season.

Everyone knows modern players need babysitting because every time they go away on "holiday" they slag off their employers, I mean we have all done it, we work 9 to 5 in jobs and as soon as we get a break we call our boss/employer all the names under the sun knowing full well when we get back that they our the ones who put money in to our account come the end of the month. Suarez is behaving like a spoilt child and should be told in no uncertain terms to wind his neck in. Will that happen, prob not because in modern football the employee holds all the aces in the deck. The Bosman ruling in general was a a good thing but the lack of dotting i's and crossing t's has left every football club at the mercy of "employees" and agents won't and will. Sorry bout the rant. I just need to vent. Great site, great banter, keep up the exceptional work eds as I can imagine this time of year your head must be spinning.

You have to remember he is a young man with a young family in a foreign country.
The press have been vitriolic to him since he came here.
The lad needs protection from the nasty press and he needs to get his act together on the field.
I say stick with him. I like him and his two fingers to the establishment and the Man U press.
I think he could give us one more season

While I agree big time on the giving two fingers to the media /press/man u, he is didrespecting our great club and fans who have given him hero status, also he is a very poor role model for any young lad, sending out all the wrong signals.
redforever

The last post is spot on, Suarez to stay.

16 Jun 2013 14:08:26
Ed001 or 052 do you feel mignolet will replace reina or simply be competition with him likely to replace him next year
Grate site your opinion is always appreciated {Ed052's Note - I feel he will replace him, but dont see Reina going to Barca or Athletico, so im not too sure}

There's talk he might end up at Napoli

Can see that happening Jimmy, maybe, its all going on behind the closed doors.
redforever

16 Jun 2013 15:14:18
Hi eds, I love this time of year, the excitement of what next season will bring players results etc. not a rumour but a question to the eds. are you guys pleased with the transfers in the offing? Aspas mignolet Alberto toure hm? More will come I'm sure will the squad be strong enough next season to challenge?

16 Jun 2013 15:09:49
Hi all hope your all ok. Just wanted to say that although I love Suarez I am not as hurt with him leaving as I was when Torres left. Not sure why but really think Torres loved the fans and club I know he left and said some disappointing things but nothing on a par with the way Suarez is acting now. My view is that BR is trying to sign players who have a desire the desire to play for LFC and wear the shirt with pride you don't have to sign all the worlds most expensive players but players who have great work ethics. We used to do this look at Rush, Beardsley and Dalglish. We didn't spend over the top for these. Let's trust BR I am sure if we can hit the ground running then there is no reason we can't push on again this season. You never know.
YNWA
Jamesy

I understand your sentiment but I'm pretty certain that Dalglish and Beardsley were British transfer records at £440,000 and £1.9m respectively.

16 Jun 2013 14:39:31
any news on gomis or muriel? {Ed002's Note - Nothing related to Liverpool.}

16 Jun 2013 14:20:34
Do you think it will be a waste of money if we buy Mkhitaryan, yes he scored 25 goals in the Ukrainian league but that is only the Ukrainian league, will he be able to cope with the Great Football in the BPL?

16 Jun 2013 14:35:01
He will then have 2 years to settle. that's Plan B

Correct me if I'm wrong, although its quite a bit of money, there's only 1 way to find out?

25 goals no matter where you play is good. Look at neymar you don't see people saying oh he only scored like 100 goals for santos but its Brazilian league so it doesn't really mean anything.

Nobody ever scored 25 goals if the league before him I heard so it ain't easy pal plus you can only play the teams that are in the league your in he done pretty well in the champions league and stuff so what's the problem?

I think he will be a solid signing to be honest. A centre mid who scored 25 goals last year? Yes please. One of our issues this season was the lack of goals from anywhere other than up front really. I think he'll be solid signing, has a nice touch, pass and finish. Best of luck to the lad.

CumbrianScouse

16 Jun 2013 14:13:56
I'm going to stick my name out there and say Suarez stays for another season! His choice or not he will be at LFC next season!

With the additions that we seem to be making I think all LFC fans can be positive about next season!

Can't wait!

NS

Not sure how I would feel if Suarez does not leave. He has taken a knife and stabbed us all in the back. We stood by him even knowing that all the things he did was wrong. If he had approached the club behind closed doors and said that he wanted to leave things might be different right now. Instead like a coward he has chosen the easy way out by using the media to blame the UK press and advertising himself in the process to all the big spenders sending the message to come and get him.

He has been nothing but trouble and trouble will follow him wherever he goes so he can take the baggage that he brought with him from Ajax plus the baggage he now has at Anfield and leave plus take all that baggage to the new club he will be joining. Trouble will follow Suarez wherever he goes. He is his own worst enemy and Liverpool will be better without him.

Logan

No way, mate. He will get what he wants, and to be honest, it's the right time for him and Liverpool to go. I love watching the guy play, but he's an accident waiting to happen. I wish him well and look forward to watching Mkhitaryan instead.

There is no way I would want to see that ungrateful wretch wear the famous red jersey ever again. He has embarrassed the club with his stupid interviews, dragged our club's name through the mud. The biting incident indicated the writing was on the wall. The person wants out, and we should let him go but only on our terms. If say Bayern come up with a better offer, we should sell to them, and not Real.
MY VERDICT: GREAT PLAYER BUT A PATHETIC EXCUSE OF A HUMAN BEING. {Ed002's Note -

No good getting all indignant over a few comments? When we are where we are? Not qualifying for the CL.
If Suarez staying gives Lfc a better chance of CL qualification then that will be for the good of Lfc.
If he leaves and we fail again? What good your indignation then?
He's under contract to us and we need CL next season minimum? So I say for the good of Lfc (Suarez is in the top 5 players in the World) make him stay for at least one more season.

16 Jun 2013 17:44:54
Make him stay? This ain't slavery mate and he is baned for the first 6 games anyway and no he is not in the top 5 players in the world, you should stop kidding millions! He is nothing but a massive headache to the club!

Two of the first 6 games are in the league cup, if Suarez stays it's my bet he'll still play more league games than almost any other forward in the premier, as the lad apart from being an amazingly gifted footballer is also as tough as teak and I can't remember him missing a single game through injury.

16 Jun 2013 13:46:10
"We are both out of the country but most of the negotiations are done and the financial agreement between us and Liverpool is in place, " Allardyce told the Sunday People.

"It's about communicating with Andy and his agent between London, here in Spain where I am and Florida where Andy is.

"I've no real need to speak to him over his decision. I've spoken to him enough times so he knows what I think and it's up to him.

"He's back in the next few days so we should have a definitive answer by the end of next week. "

I wired tapped big sam's phone too and heard the exact same conversation

16 Jun 2013 13:24:23
Ed,

Is it true that chelsea have made juan mata available for transfer? I'm by no means asking if Liverpool may go for him, but is it true that mourinho does not see him in his plans?

Slade {Ed002's Note - That is one for the Chelsea page.}

16 Jun 2013 13:22:07
Mignolet in

Does this mean no more reina and jones

Plus who would also be brought in to cover mignolet. I heard of this kid from anderlecht kaminski But I'm not sure if we Are interested

Why would Jones leave? He signed a long-term contract last season. He is here to stay.

I thought it was just a one year extension.
Although I don't know why the club offered it.

This is jus my thought.

Valdes stays barca another yr to get a big signin on fee next year, they don't need reina right now.

We buy mignolet (as we need a gk) and have him play and learn from/with reina for this year, improvin year round, next year, Valdes leaves, reina leaves, mignolet becomes number 1.

Brad Jones is contracted through to 2016. Finding a competent GK who is happy to sit on the bench for much of the season as second choice is tough. That is why he was given contract extension last December.

Besides, with Gulacsi and Doni gone, we are really short of keepers. Wouldn't be surprised if we get another keeper this transfer window (not an expensive one, one in the sub £1m range).

16 Jun 2013 12:48:24
So guys what's the deal with Aspas? Is this a serious snag we've it or is the eventual transfer to us near enough a sure thing?

Thanks,

-Jack the lad- {Ed002's Note - Search function.}

16 Jun 2013 12:36:28
Looking forward to watching tonights game Spain v Uruguay.
I know our Luis is a pest in some ways but I just love watching the lad play. Could be one of the last times we can enjoy watching him as Liverpool player in an International.
There'll be fantastic World Class players all over the pitch in this but none as exciting and explosive as Luis Suarez.
Spain will probably play without a recognised striker again?
And as the game is being played in South America which will ensure support for Uruguay, my advice is get down the bookies and take the 5-1 betting odds for Uruguay to win, as the are certain to score (Suarez and Cavani the two best goalsorers on the pitch) where as Spain for all they'll boss possession are not as certain to score.
Will Luis manage to score against Casllas and how many nutmegs will he execute in the game:-)))

Is Torres in the Spain squad? {Ed002's Note - Yep.}

16 Jun 2013 14:24:43
How many players will he chew on tonight. That lad has been sniffing bath salts. Shout out to zombie Suarez hope you stuff the spainards

Uraguay sent a full team to the Olympics remember, and they were really poor. They need to find about 10 more gears tonight.

16 Jun 2013 12:21:35
Luis Alberto to Liverpool is all agreed now according to media

16 Jun 2013 14:23:22
Hey ed (s) Is the above post right In what he says? Because I can't find anything on this story what says that.

ACHILLES. {Ed002's Note - It should not have been posted - I have dealt with this already. Sorry.}

Looks a damn good player on youtube. Hope he turns out as good in the premier league. Relatively low fee and wages, could have a similar impact as coutinho. Keeping my fingers crossed that it happens.

16 Jun 2013 15:35:00
Yeah apparently he's dug a hole in his back garden and straight down till he miracously ended up in middle of Anfield's pitch with BR standing there cracking open a couple of bottles of Lucozade and celebrating and making a toast for the future!
U bell*** ;-)

16 Jun 2013 12:12:02
With Papadopolous looking more unlikely as time goes on, who do we think is likely to be the alternative? that's taking it that Illori is expected as well as.

I'm really hoping its Toby Alderweireld. Excellent player in my opinion, and apparently available for as little as 8 million.

I'd go to 15 for him to be honest.

Jonesred

16 Jun 2013 11:55:17
Hi Editors
Not so much a rumour but if Suarez really wants to go and he is trying to force Liverpools hand so he can go to RM. Why do Liverpool not come out and say they are prepared to sell him and hopefully start a bidding war with teams such as RM, Barcelona, PSG etc. Why should he force us to where he wants to go? {Ed052's Note - it would do the opposite of causing a bidding war. We could be held to ransom, and get a lower fee if we actively try to offload him}

Also BR, Ayre and FSG won't want the fans to think that the club are wanting to sell Suarez, they will make it clear that if he leaves it is due to him forcing his way out, similar to how Torres left

16 Jun 2013 11:41:46
Hey Everyone. I was just wondering, how is a bid submitted. Must you of contacted the club or Player's agent or can you bid without any enquiry? Also how is the bid submitted is it via an email or fax?
Much Appreciated.
Tim {Ed002's Note - Clubs will typically informally ask an agent (a) if the player is going to be available, and (b) would the player consider a move to the club. There may be some broad discussion on the sort of deal that would be offered. If the answer is yes, it is then necessary for the club to approach the player's club to ask if they would be willing to sell and if they would grant permission to speak to a player's agent and possibly even the player about actually making a move. This will typically involve either broadly (through an offer) or actually agreeing a fee and responsibility for any significant costs (agents fees etc.). Once this has happened the club will be able to speak to the player's agent and perhaps the player himself to look at the package that will be involved. Many players are looked at and discussed at a high-level with agents and clubs; a subset of those have an offer placed; a subset of those involve discussions with the player's club; a subset of those involve discussions over terms, and; a subset of those go ahead.

The offer itself will typically be in writing and subject to a number of points of negotiation - both with the selling club and with the player.}

Thanks Ed002 for answering, cleared it up for me. Keep up the good work!
Tim

16 Jun 2013 11:35:09
hi eds,
paper talk this morning saying Liverpool are on the verge of signing mignolet. is this true as I believe he will be a world class keeper for us, or is it just paper talk and nothing is happening. cheers
keep up the good work {Ed052's Note - we're interested and want to sign him}

Ed would it be a problem if we got mignolet but reina stayed till next summer or would it mean reina will defo leave thanks {Ed002's Note -Mignolet will not want to be on the bench. Would Reina?}

Nobody wants to sit on a bench ed but it's called competition for places both giving a shot may the best man win

16 Jun 2013 11:22:12
Luis Suarez has once again given an interview to a Spanish publication, this time El Pais, and opened up on how he feels at Liverpool and his future at Anfield.

Ahead of tonight's Confederations Cup match between Uruguay and Spain there will be plenty of focus on Suarez, especially as the Liverpool striker can go level with Diego Forlan as top goal scorer for his country on 33 goals.

After discussing the challenge of facing world and European champions Spain as well as what it would mean to score against Liverpool team mate Pepe Reina, El Pais discuss the rumours of a Real Madrid move for Suarez.

First off, Suarez answers whether he "fears" playing for Real Madrid. The Liverpool striker answers: "I have never feared the pressure. But that does not mean anything. I am a Liverpool player. "

El Pais then ask what he would bring to a team like Madrid. Suarez: "I will give my soul every time I step on the pitch. I have done this with Uruguay, Ajax and Liverpool. I do not hold anything when I finish a game. "

When asked flat out if he has an agreement with Real Madrid, Suarez says: "No. I have a contract with Liverpool. "

Suarez is then questioned as to whether he would like to play for Real Madrid: "A player always aspires to be at the top of their profession and Madrid is at the top for any football player. But, do you know what it is like to play for Liverpool?"

The Uruguayan continues and gives very mixed messages: "It disturbs me that Liverpool are not in the Champions League every season. I've suffered at Liverpool, but when I think of what it represents to play for this club, & the love my daughter has. she sings the hymn. The hairs on my neck stand up when I play at Anfield. "

Finally, Luis Suarez talks about that bite on Branislav Ivanovic, that rocked English football: "How much can one bite sully all the goals I've scored?. If people knew the stuff that happens to me on the pitch, the kicks, the insults, they wouldn't judge me. I could write a book on it. "


Does this mean he might change his mind and stay or is it one of these made up articles. Pease reply cheers {Ed002's Note - It seems a reasonable translation from the Spanish transcript, with a bunch of vague descriptive additions probably added by some kid running a blog or whatever.}.

16 Jun 2013 10:29:23
El Pais discuss the rumours of a Real Madrid move for Suarez.

Suarez is then questioned as to whether he would like to play for Real Madrid: "A player always aspires to be at the top of their profession and Madrid is at the top for any football player. But, do you know what it is like to play for Liverpool?"

The Uruguayan continues and gives very mixed messages: "It disturbs me that Liverpool are not in the Champions League every season. I've suffered at Liverpool, but when I think of what it represents to play for this club, & the love my daughter has. she sings the hymn. The hairs on my neck stand up when I play at Anfield. "

When asked flat out if he has an agreement with Real Madrid, Suarez says: "No. I have a contract with Liverpool. " I am a Liverpool player. "

16 Jun 2013 10:21:49
Eds how comes Real Madrid are allowed to tap up players and get away with it? I'm mostly thinking about how they keep trying to urge bale to go even though I don't care about Tottenham still out of order

London red {Ed002's Note - It is not good, I know.}

Not really a big fan of Bale or Spurs but would just love him to come out and put 2 fingers up to Madrid and stay.
I also hope Suarez stays.
Then with the influx of new players and the Managerial changes; next season could be a cracker!

Agreed I just don't get it, any other team would get in trouble. Not like Real Madrid brings any good to football ain't they in millions of pound debt as well?! Football is corrupt

London red {Ed002's Note - I am not sure that "corrupt" is the right word. Many clubs, including Real Madrid and Liverpool, have significant debts. The issue is where to draw the line as to where "tapping up" begins.}

Really, what have Madrid done in terms of suarez? All I've heard of is interest bein there, Bale I've heard non stop comments about in paper. Barca are jus as bad if not worse, I'm not sure you could class it as 'tappin up' but when every single player makes a comment about another teams player, like was done with fabregas, I'm sure that's a step too far. Madrid have done nothin like that in terms of bale and Suarez.

16 Jun 2013 14:39:48
Madrid generally inform agents that transfers will go easier if their client actively tries to push the transfer through.
It's pretty disgusting tbh, but not illegal.

16 Jun 2013 11:08:32
Just wanted to say a massive well done to Borini for his winner last night. His second touch to set up his finish was class.

He Has taken some massive stick on these boards this season, which is unfair in my view as he has been injured for the majority of the season, and never had chance to capture any real form. I'll be straight that I'm on the fence still and i'm not going to pretend he's a world beater, but just wanted to say we need to give him a chance next season to see what he's really about.

What's your opinion on Borini eds?

Thanks,

Aggers Left Boot

Borini has bags of potential, but its up to him if he can step up and show it. I, too think its unfair to judge him at the mo because of his injury probs, but BR obviously sees something in him and let's be honest it looks like he can spot a player, e. g. Sturridge, Couts, where others may overlook. But only time will tell as anyone who has ever played the game at whatever level knows only hard work and determination on the training ground will benefit you in the managers eyes and long term you as a player, so Borini has to put the work in if he wants to be a part of what is shaping up to be a very formidable squad in the forthcoming years.

Over rating average players once again

Aggers right ball

16 Jun 2013 10:48:43
Artur Petrosyan, who is close to Mkhitaryan, has said Henrikh wants to move to Liverpool but it is down to Ian Ayre and the people who own Mkhitaryan's rights.

16 Jun 2013 10:42:57
Seems Ed002 was right, Liverpool have turned away from Papadopolous due to Schalke's reluctance to lower their valuation.

16 Jun 2013 10:37:17
If Suarez does leave, how realistic will be Luis? I know you may have mentioned it a while back but can't find it. Is it likely that BR will not spend the cash and simply just push Mkhitaryan and Luis Alberto (if we get them) forward as strikers.

Another crazy thought re: Suarez. How about a straight swap with Napoli for Cavani with some cash either way?

Yes it is a crazy thought, so why post it!

Ciario80

16 Jun 2013 03:11:43

Aussie {Ed002's Note - Please post on the Everton page and I will answer as best I can.}

16 Jun 2013 10:04:15
How about Scott Parker, Michael Essien or Gareth Barry as defensive midfield cover/competition for Lucas obviously depending on price and wages, would be a good option with there experience. {Ed023's Note - Prefer Coady or some other youngster.}

I work with spurs fans AND a couple of contacts within their club! The spurs fans feel that parker is done now (past it) they had him playing when sandro was injured! They feel that the loss of sandro and parker filling in was one of the reasons for not getting cl!

How about Leroy Fer who played for Holland last night, unless we win the lottery then Medal would be the one.

Hello Ed,
what happened about that Brazilian youngster we were linked with who plays CDM?
Matheus Biteco I think it was.

16 Jun 2013 09:42:22
hi eds reds watched italy u-21 v holland u-21 last night, pleased for borini, took his goal very well. my main point is how impressed I was with kevin strootman. I've read a lot about him, mainly on here, not seen much of him, so took the chance to follow him in last nights match. I was very impressed. he led them in every way, I doubt if there is any chance of lfc getting him? I think he could take over from stevieg in time. godbless96 steviep62. {Ed052's Note - he's probably going to United is what I've heard from the Unitex Ed}

He is nailed on for Utd, I think the Rossiter lad will be groomed as Stevie's replacement in time. But not to worry Stevie just had one of his best seasons in recent years there's plenty of life in him yet!

Ciario80

16 Jun 2013 09:18:57
Now on a serious note is it true we've agreed a fee for the armenian lad in the region of 18.5m with add ons maybe rising to 21m? he looks a really good confident player who will deinatly add quality to the squad but seems a little high and mighty with a huge ego cheers eds and sorry about my suarez post lol CRAIG

16 Jun 2013 09:10:14
Suarez is just full of it. Liverpool should just sell to the highest bidder, whether it be Madrid, Barcelona, PSG or Monaco for all I care.
Players shouldn't always get what they want

16 Jun 2013 08:52:23
Just a bit of relief from all the Suarez debacle!
What are posters thoughts on the current Brazil outfit?
I personally think Scolari is losing the plot?
After watching Brazil turn in another mediocre performance against Japan.
I can't believe his squad and team selection.
Surely players like our own Coutinho and Lucas along with Dante (Bayern) Lucas Moura (Psg) Ramirez (Chelsea) should be in the team never mind the squad.
How overated is Neymar? And how bad are some of the Brazil players including Hulk who does nothing for me (6goals/25 )
Jo came on and scored, yes Jo. They definitely have a dearth of strikers when a player like him get's anywhere near a Brazil team. {Ed052's Note - Brazil were terrible, and Neymar was shocking. He struggled to beat his man, tried too much and kept losing the ball. Downing would have been better last night. Brazil were poor tho, and lucky to score 3. Honda had a couple of decent efforts, but his touch was a bit off, he kept turning into dead ends, looks tired, fed up and dint put enough effort in for me. Hulk was by far and away the worst player on the pitch tho, 40m, you're having a laugh :P}

Couldn't agree more with either of you! Neymar is stupidly over rated, everytime I see him he plays poor. Hulk, jus makes me laugh, in no way is he worth 40 million.

Brazil were terrible! Won 3-0. Neymar was shocking? He was fantastic and showed quality the whole night.

I have yet to see anything from either Neymar or Hulk that would justify the huge hype around hem.

Brazil has a vast pool of excellent players to choose from, but Scolari seems to select the wrong ones.

Diego Alves, Miranda, Ramires, Lucas Leiva, Damaio, Diego Costa and Fernandinho could all have been, in my opinion better options.

Come the 2014 World Cup. and I think Brazil will once again flatter to deceive like in the not so distant past.

The real AG

You saw the same game as me ed052,
the commentator kept bigging up Neymar? couildn't believe it. {Ed052's Note - it was hilarious, every touch was, "what a star" and "bargain" etc}

Heard Neymar only weighs around 8-9 stone, that couldn't be right could it?

16 Jun 2013 08:38:53
I do hope we have serious interest in Downing, Shelvey, Coates and Reina, as buying replacements before we sell is risky, because it gives the buying club the option to go in low and late, knowing you have to sell. I wish we had a (great white) like Levy or Ashley doing the deals, instead of Ian Ayre.

16 Jun 2013 08:27:05
Just got the best fathers day present 2 tickets to LIVERPOOL V CELTIC in the aviva can't wait to stand shoulder to shoulder with the CELTIC fans because they have always showed my LFC great respect JON96

Great present mate, enjoy!

Nicky D

Well done mate, they have sold out fast I tried to get them but to no luck.

16 Jun 2013 08:03:48
in my opinion we are in a good position for several reasons. 1. the last few months we played some good football and coutinho/sturridge have really made a difference. 2. lucas/allen/borini will be stronger next season all 3 had injuries. 3. youngsters like suso/sterling/ibe will only get better. 4. we know were our weak points are and seem to have money to buy, we already spend on aspas and proberly mign and alberto on the way. 5. players that are not in br future plans (carroll, assaidi, cuates, and proberly skrtl. will be sold and replaced. 6. the suarez situation is handled correctly, suarez is not for sale was the best move we made, we are working on replacing the players we don't need. once that is done I am sure we will sit back and play the game. suarez will only leave for top money and will be replaced with 1 player. 7. we will have a strong squad next season with suarez or without. 8. money will not be the problem this window getting the right players will be, a good problem to have. juve had this problem 2 years ago look were they are now. 9. I can see fsg plan and it will work next season we will get into the top 4 and the following season we will play for the league. malta

16 Jun 2013 07:08:35
Eds said 5 Clubs Interested in Suarez.

Below I think are clubs that can afford/want him.
Spain :
1) Real Madrid
2) Ath Madrid
3) Barca

EPL :
1)Man City
2)Chlesea
3)Arsenal

French:
1) PSG
2) Monaco

Russia
1)Anzhi.

Eds. are the 5 clubs all in above group? {Ed052's Note - we've told you who is interested, and yoj lisg contains teams who aren't}

16 Jun 2013 06:42:49
Hey Eds
Is there any more interest in Ince, or was the hype in January all media speculation? {Ed052's Note - I believe interest has gone becuase we couldn't do a deal in January, and so have moved on}

16 Jun 2013 06:14:17
hello eds, is it true that Liverpool have agreed a fee for luis alberto and mignolet? {Ed052's Note - yes and not yet}

16 Jun 2013 03:48:54
Liverpool will look at Luis Muriel and Morata from Real when Suarez goes and a bid for Sakho is on the cards at present.

I don't not believe we will buy another very left footed dominate centre back, as we already have Agger

Young Red

16 Jun 2013 01:12:32
Hi Eds,

What do you think will happen to Downing for next season? Are any teams interested in him?

Thanks {Ed052's Note - I still think he will stay, but with interest in attacking players, such as Mickey, Aspas and Alberto, its possible he may go. Theres previous interest from Stoke and rumoured interest from Sunderland}

16 Jun 2013 01:13:31
Eds I have seen the name mickey a few times is that supposed to be Henrik from shaktar. Also until recently I had never heard of the player is he worth the €20M+ that's quoted. {Ed030's Note - Yes that's him mate. }

15 Jun 2013 23:54:40
Fabio Borini scores winner for Italy. I think he deserves a run of games for us.

Yeah. who's this Borini kid, any chance LFC could be interested. oh hang on.
(for all the haters on here )

He's going to be solid player for us, he's a gem of a lad and we need some patience with the younger players, especially when they've been crocked on off for the season, massively unfortunate and he was gutted, he wants to restore Rodgers well placed faith in him and win over all the fans with hard work and goals.

No one hates borini we want him to be a great red but look at the stters he missed against hearts, his mistiming of hitting the ball etc makes people like me worry

16 Jun 2013 10:54:12
Borini (22) playing in a u21 match. Surely you'd expect him to look better than everyone else?

I don't see how borini being 22 compared to 21 year olds is relevant to his looks.

15 Jun 2013 23:34:11
Great site eds.

It's been a couple of weeks, I think, since you've been asked about Coates. Any news on clubs interested in him? {Ed002's Note - Nothing serious I am aware of.}

15 Jun 2013 23:29:40
Alberto and Mignolet to be announced middle of next week

Bridgy07

Any news on Papadopoulos or 'mikey' bridgy 07

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