Liverpool Banter Archive May 16 2012

 

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16 May 2012 23:20:46
Been trying for hours to get the contact details off the Fenway site to no avail. I just hope thousands more beat me to telling the owners what a huge mistake they have bestow upon our rebuilding of the club. Unfotunately we have now become a average joe brand rather than the a great football club. RIP LFC as we know it.

Op your a clown, Im pretty sure the owners are done listening to the fans. They did that with Kenny's appointment and look what it got them. They make the decisions now, live with it. Im actually stoked they made the move to get rid of Kenny.

Steve

 

 

16 May 2012 23:19:45
What's wrong with some of our fans. First they wanted Kenny out and now that FSG did that, they are saying Kenny should've given more time and questioning FSG?----I just dont understand.

Kenny will always be THE KING of the Kop.

And no Martinez please, we'd have another Roy Hodgson situation in our hands.

And no Rafa, we'd have another Kenny situation in our hands.

My first choice is Ancelotti. But I guess it won't happen because we'd have to pay PSG a great amount of money.

If not, bring in AVB, he'd be the perfect fit. I am sure he learned from his mistakes in Chelsea. He's a better manager now.


Jack D.

Its really quite simple, half the fans wanted him to stay and half wanted him to go, you can never please everyone. I just feel for the eds coz they must get it from l fans wiwith differant views.
TIZER RED

Should I stay or should I go now

If I stay there will be trouble if I go there will be double

 

 

16 May 2012 23:19:41
sky sports news just stated steve clarke HAS NOT RESIGNED FROM LIVERPOOL POST and thanx king kenny you will always be a legend you'll never walk alone

 

 

16 May 2012 23:17:32
How can anyone say Martinez ? He's done f*** all! I want mourinho or redknapp!

Redknapp? Kenny won the same amount as him in one bad season as he's won in his entire career!

-Shane.

 

 

16 May 2012 23:16:29
So there doesn't seem any fan favourite standing out. So FSG are not gonna please all!

Mike

But nobody will be disappointed with klopp is appointed;)
AnfieldUSA

 

 

16 May 2012 23:13:59
So Andres Villas-Boas and Roberto Martinez are the top targets?

What qualifies them for the job, beyond the fact that they're both under 40.

Senseless, senseless, decision to sack Kenny if that's what we're after as a replacement.

 

 

16 May 2012 23:12:26
Is there no chance of Pep coming to Liverpool, great manager out of work and no one has mentioned it? Just wondering?

 

 

16 May 2012 23:10:22
Why is it that you are not so keen on AVB taking over ed? Thanks mate.

maka YNWA JFT96 {Ed001's Note - because he has no idea what to do if it is not working with the tactics he wants to play. He just carries on regardless with those same tactics.}

 

 

16 May 2012 23:10:16
I think that LFC should bring Back Rafa. He is very good manager, he will do everything possible for the club, he had very bad time when Hicks & Gillet were the owners.

If FSG want success the need to bring Rafa and support him with good transfer budget ( at least £60m plus sales of dead woods).

It is very difficult to compete with Man City, Man U, Chelsea & Arsenal without spending much.

Hope that Mr Henry will hire Rafa.

 

 

16 May 2012 23:10:05
Hi eds whats your opinion on what we should do with carragher and gerrard, I know they are lfc through and through but age is against them and they have too much influence within Liverpool, carragher is an easier one to do than gerrard. Cheers for the response it is also open to anyone else with a coherent view on It..

Kind regards

The southern red {Ed001's Note - Carragher deserves the chance to go on a free somewhere that will give him playing time. Gerrard, well I personally think his injuries and lack of form mean it is time for him to go as well. Unless he is willing to take a huge pay cut.}

Hi Ed1 great to have you back can you say why gerrard signed a new long term contract and whether this is an indication he could be for sale in the summer? and were carragher will likely go? andyh {Ed001's Note - Gerrard signed a long contract to show commitment to the club, it is unlikely to be any indication of a sale. No idea where or if Carra will go, impossible to say, the new man might want to keep him!}

 

 

16 May 2012 23:23:26
Hi fellow LFC Fans i am like most people am sad to see Kenny go but i understand and respect FSGs bold decision, the club need a major shake up, they are doing that now, unfortunatly suarez will now go but if he can be replaced by a few quality players i would be happy. Eds Can you say with your knowledge if you expect a mass clear out of players next, and i dont mean the aqufattys etc that we know are leaving i mean the likes of actual first team squad players? AJH316

 

 

16 May 2012 23:09:59
God here we go Eds.

Just went on Wiki to read about Bielsa and someone
has changed it already to say he manages us ha ha.
I feel for the guys in charge of some managers pages, they'll have their work cut out for them the next few day.

Cork Red Boi

 

 

16 May 2012 23:07:51
Aside from the main talk over Kenny, it's good to see Stevie finally getting the armband for England. At least that's one good decision from Woy...

maka YNWA JFT96

 

 

16 May 2012 23:03:49
I have good authority that Louis Van Gaal will be the new coach, 95% sure source.

Frank b

How did you calculate this 95% mate? You must be a mathematical genius!

AG

 

 

16 May 2012 23:03:48
Hi ed if suarez goes who is the most likely replacement thanks ???

 

 

16 May 2012 23:01:37
AVB prime candidate free to a good club and has links all over europe seems like a good deal in my eyes but martinez has prem experince and is under pressure every week to win cheap enough and has been best manager in the premiership this season aprat from pardew

 

 

16 May 2012 22:59:12
p power suspend betting on avb happy

 

 

16 May 2012 22:59:06
Just seen on SSN that AVB is joint favourites for job, does this mean if he gets the job he could attract players like Hulk etc from Porto?? Just a thought first time poster don't shoot me down, still sad to see KK go, but we are in a results business

 

 

16 May 2012 22:57:31
With the sacking of KK, I think the owners of Liverpool need to look no further than either Capello or Guardiola, their records in club management says it all. We need more attacking football, which we have been lacking for the past few seasons.

We are going backwards not forwards, who do you think Eds should be the new boss of the Kop?

Capello
Guardiola
Ancelotti

 

 

16 May 2012 22:51:28
points/rumours to be considered, kenny supposedly refused resignation packages twice and then was sacked. this hints at a massive disagreement? my thoughts,
sounds like luis suarez may well have been the subject in question. and he may well be sold to our disappointment.
AVB has supposedly been approached for the job? steve clarke is still employed despite the rumours of him quitting. perfect stepping stone for AVB'S arrival, a friend and previous work colleague already at the club, something to think about......

and then to AVB, when he was sacked chelsea were 5th, 4 points off 4th with a points per game ratio of 1.7 in the league after 27 games. also still in the f.a cup and still in the champions league.
di matteo finished sixth, 5 points off 4th with a points per game ratio of 1.5. ultimately he continued the cup runs and won the f.a cup but AVB hadn't been knocked out. basically, di matteo has not improved any stats at the club, just the happiness in the players faces.
if he comes then it may be because mr abramovich was a little too quick to pull the trigger, but then so could have FSG....

Stats my bum, just listen to the opinions of the Chelsea players after he left, the team were a joke when he was there. If he is appointed then we may as well give up. He signed Meireles remember for thirteen million! 28 years old, couldn't tackle a fish supper, hair like a muppet

Please not AVB.

David

Good Post Mate , AVB may be the choice but whether he can around LFC is a food for thought ! What if he could not deliver then we go back to status quo . that is what concerns me

 

 

16 May 2012 22:51:27
hi eds is there any chance pako ayestrayon (spelling) could land the job if he was interested after all he was basically the mastermind behind rafas success

Mastermind me arse. Pako was the motivator and the player's friend, the tactics came from Rafa. {Ed001's Note - he was also the fitness coach.}

Grow up

 

 

16 May 2012 21:25:09
Can i just say thanks to one of the eds i think it was ed2 who always maintained that there was a strong chance that Dalglish would go? good work.

You also maintained there is a fair chance Suarez would be moved on as well if we get a sizeable bid. It seems that the Suarez incident totally cut the club in half would that be fair to say ? I know in the USA the PR work is really important. Obviously its not the only reason that they sacked Kenny has league results have not been great.

As i say its a horrible day to see a legend go but football never keeps still and i suppose next season it will be time to move on.

Do you see FSG employing a young manager? And if so does it rule out Martin O Neill?

Anyway good work again.

Thanks
Mighty reds

 

 

16 May 2012 22:42:34
Van Gaal wants liverpool job. He has put he's hat in the ring. He is quoted as saying it would be a honour to speak to one of the biggest clubs in the world {Ed016's Note - source?)

 

 

16 May 2012 22:40:45
eds/macca would louis van gaal be a good choice and would he also be available?

{Ed016's Note - As I know he is free currently. Great manager, diverse tactical man who knows how to introduce youngsters into the side. I think he would be an ok choice, but he is 60 and I believe the owners are looking for a younger manager)

 

 

16 May 2012 22:40:16
Lfc is one of biggest club in the world, that's fact.we need to think big, and go after managers with cl experience, we shuld challenge for title to be gurantid top4, no manager is to big for LFC. Sorry for any mistake on spelling

 

 

16 May 2012 22:39:53
Obviously 2 cup finals is not progress.

KernowRed {Ed016's Note - I guess it is not, but at the same time, I am rather glad our owners have higher standards for the team.)

 

 

16 May 2012 22:39:04
To be a top European club we need a top European manager its pretty simple, a manager who demands respect from top players, not scared to drop top players when they are not performing.
Im not one for bringing Benitez back but he certainly didnt take any sh*t from players, with that formula i think the shortlist is pretty small for managers who have that power and influence over big players.
I am surprised Dalglish has gone after such a short space of time but sometimes i think the faith he showed in some of his players has gone against him, his faith in Spearing at centre mid and Stewart Downing on the wing has been a couple of shocking decisions as i am convinced he only played Spearing because he came through the ranks and Downing because he cost so much, because they have produced nothing on the pitch this season.
cobra

 

 

16 May 2012 23:03:33
New manager to be given just 15-20 million. I thought new manager would be backed surely

Thats been the whole point all along,and for some reason people havnt grasped it.fsg are not awash with money like the mansours/abromivich infact fsg arnt in the same ball park,there for the money must be spent very shrewdly and spread thinly.kd didnt do either of the 2,and now theres not a lot of the kitty left for the new man,it will be supplemented through sales.but any new players will be young with future value.i hope people will see now why the cl is so important.no cl money= no stadium,low investment, no future simples

 

 

16 May 2012 23:03:23
Rene Girard, about to lead Montpellier to the Ligue 1 title, a former assistant of the great France National Team that won the world cup back in 1998 and the Euros in 2000, also worked with the French U16s, U19s and U21s before he signed up at Montpellier in June 2009.

Fits the bill perfect, a 4-2-3-1 man who plays attractive football and great at working with youngsters

What do you think eds, could this manager do a great job at Liverpool? Please post in the rumours section.

Cheers

 

 

16 May 2012 23:02:56
Bookies have suspended bets on avb ,I ope this doesn't happen ,y sack Kenny for avb he won't get respect from the players

 

 

16 May 2012 23:02:07
Am I the only one who is getting slightly worried that if things continue the way they are going, things will always be done the 'Amercian Way' instead of the ' Liverpool Way' ?

Thoughs Ed's and Poster?

An Dun Red

 

 

16 May 2012 23:01:50
FSG better move quick if they want Mick McCarthy, as I hear Villa are sniffing around him.

IMO Kenny should have got one more season to turn it round. The premiership is littered with stories of players who were woeful in their first year at a club but turned out to be fantastic after that (Henry, Pires, Ronaldo to name but a few). I'm sure most of Kenny's signings would have come good had he stayed.

The rumours of Suarez leaving are very worrying. We need to act now before we wake up to a headline that he has gone. Everyone knows he was stitched up by the odious Ferguson, who used his puppet Evra to goad him. Things move on and they are mostly forgotten and this is the case with the Suarez incident. The only ones who keep dragging it up, if reports are true, are Standard Chartered. My message to them is let it drop and get on with making your millions on the back of Liverpool FC. You need us more than we need you. We need to let them know that Liverpool supporters worldwide will be urged to boycott their banking products if they keep on thinking you are the ones who run Liverpool FC. If you don't think it can happen just ask the S*n! If Suarez is sold, we should hold SC responsible, as they obviously just can't stop themselves from dragging it up over and over again.

As for FSG, to treat a legend like KK the way they did makes me fear for the future. We know their policy is to buy young and improve for good sell on value. Well, let me tell them, the Liverpool supporters policy is to buy players and improve them so that they can stay at Liverpool and become legends who will win us titles. We don't want them sold on for profit.

To make up for sacking Kenny FSG better have something in the bag in the way of top of the range Manager. Probably their policy will be to recruit someone young like Martinez or Rodgers and move them on to somewhere like Real Madrid for huge compensation, just like they want to do with the players! Also, it's about time they started to put their hands in their pockets and back the new Manager with serious funds to allow him to compete at the top end of the market. Don't let them fool you into thinking they've splashed out much money. Hicks and Gillet paid for Torres and Babel and the money we got for them funded much of Kenny's dealings last year. Granted they paid off a debt and bought the club. But the one thing Hicks and Gillet got right was that it was stolen off them. Let's face it, FSG got Liverpool on the cheap and it is worth a lot more now.

To finish, any of you sponsors who call for Suarez out - beware - we are watching you and your products. They will go the same way as all those unwanted copies of the S*n, especially you lot at St**d*rd Ch*rt*r*d (see - you're already getting the asterisk treatment that is usually reserved for our mentions of the S*n).

Good luck Kenny, you will always be in the hearts of proper football supporters!

redmersey

Suarez is a legend. If we get rid of him we are playing into our opponents hands. Sponsors dictating transfer policy will not be tolerated in Liverpool. If this is FSG's game then they need to know that PLAYERS COME BEFORE SPONSORS. If they hurried up and increased the capacity like they promised then we wouldn't have to be dictated to by the corporate dollar.

David

 

 

16 May 2012 22:55:16
Hi all, please could I get Macca's, the ed's or anyone else's view on wether they think either of Fabio Capello or Frank Rijkaard would be worth considering and if you think they could do a job at LFC ?

Thanks, Chris-Leigh.

 

 

16 May 2012 22:52:50
All this Suarez must leave stuff Feenway demand it?? Why put him as one of the figureheads to sell the new shirt? I am not saying he is staying to be honest with you after the last two years as a LFC fan i can honestly say i dont know anything anymore lol

Mike

 

 

16 May 2012 22:52:38
Personaly I respect Kenny. he is a Liverpool hero and he Love Liverpoll. guy's Rafa never say anything bad about Liverpool. he love and Respect Liverpool too. why some of us disrespect Rafa and Kenny ? The owner think they want new manegiment from top to bottom so lets hope for the best. as Kenny himself not getting younger day by day. if not this year next year he sure leave the club.

Roman-Red

 

 

16 May 2012 22:56:55
Hi Fellow LFC Fans,

Eds Please post! I am a frequent visiter to the site and require some support. If there is anything you can do after reading the website please e-mail me with the address provided.

Can you take a look at my 2 year olds website and support. Oliver my son needs an Op in the USA costing £72,000 and I'm asking all LFC fans to help with this campaign.

www.helpoliverwalk.co.uk

Thanks for reading YNWA.

BTM {Ed001's Note - I don't know what I can do to help, but I have posted it on Twitter (though I don't really use it much!) and I will get a link posted up here for you.}

 

 

16 May 2012 22:56:39
if FSG replace Kenny with likes of Martinez, Rodgers or Lambert etc. We will once again have a season to forget :( .. We need an established manager who can bring back success.

Luis Van Gaal
AVB
Klopp

They should be contacted atleast.


I will miss King Kenny!

AVB you're having a laugh! He was found wanting in the EPL, best sticking to the substandard Portugese League. Sorry not upto Liverpool standards, he couldn't cut the mustard at Chelsea with allegedly superior players than ours,

MidlandRed
(YNWA Kenny)

 

 

16 May 2012 22:55:25
any chance of Van Basten to manage LFC?

Would be interesting with Cruyff as DOF too if it could ever happen...

 

 

16 May 2012 22:53:05
Cruyff as DOF with Van Basten as manager would be very interesting...could explain the delay of DOF but realistically & unfortunately I don't see it happening...

AVB or Martinez fit the FSG mould & that worries me...

 

 

16 May 2012 22:50:55
AVB and Roberto Martinez fit the profile the owners are looking for in their manager. No surprise they head the betting and I would also throw Klinsmann's name into the mix.

AVB's in demand but he's clearly been weighing up other options and I would suggest that's because we're one of them.

I also expect Suarez to be sold to boost the new manager's pot to c £70-£80m.

In order of likelihood then:

1. AVB 2. Klinsmann. 3. Martinez

If it's AVB could he use his pot of money to get us Falcao, Muniain and Moutinho ?

 

 

16 May 2012 22:49:08
For EVERYBODY on this site. Macca has been spot on about 98%-99% of the time folks, the guy deserves a massive slap on the back for going out on a limb to post info.....FOR US. Keep up the fantastic work Macca, your doing a hell of a job, and THANKS.

 

 

16 May 2012 22:47:27
I feel sorry for King. Kenny made many mistakes in team selection that might be factor that lead to some bad results which collectively cost his job. Now the season becomes past. Get over it. If we sell Saurez then we really want to sign the likes of Ramirez, Sausetta, Munian and Soldado. And also no guarantee that they will succeed or they will sign. They must keep Saurez for one more year for betterment of our club.
I hope the manager like Klopp who plays attractive football. Not Rafa. What ed think. Whom you prefer
st
YNWA {Ed001's Note - I would much rather go for Klopp than Rafa.}

 

 

16 May 2012 22:47:15
Im gutted that kenny got sacked and think it was the wrong the decision as you cant rebuild a team in a year and expect big things although the league position was poor. We need to go big for the next manager and martinez and rodgers are not big enough. I think AVB or klopp would be good but they need to appoint soon so transfer plans can be set up. Also i do think suarez will be sold as long as the offer is good, Lets hope they sort it out the manager soon or we could have problems

Please don't forget that was the point in kenny buying EPL based players, so that they would perform quicker. he got his transfers heavily wrong and paid for that.

 

 

16 May 2012 22:46:47
ed whats your opinion of allegriand do you see him wanting to leave milan? {Ed001's Note - well he has a great record, but I have not seen them play, so I have no idea what kind of style they play. I want to see good, attractive, attacking football.}

Then Allegri is not the man. Milan play a 4-3-1-2 formation with no width! That's not to say he will employ the same formation if he came to liverpool, but the Milan team this season has been hugely reliant on Ibrahimovic and Thiago Silva.

AG

 

 

16 May 2012 22:46:41
Martinez? You must be bl@@dy joking! If the yanks have sacked Kenny, then it had better be for somebody who can actually win things. The new Glaziers anyone?
ND

 

 

16 May 2012 22:45:12
Ok now we get to see how serious the yanks are in trying to make lfc the top club in Europe once again. They now have to spend big to get the best if they want to be the best and that only means one man......Jose!! Everyone else is only second best. League titles in 4 countrys. Champions league with 2 clubs. He is the best. If not....well mick mc carthy is free!!

Jose's not coming here and if you think otherwise you need your head examined.

 

 

16 May 2012 22:38:56
Do you think new manager will be chosen soon and how would you like to be next manager eds?

{Ed001's Note - I expect all the appointments to be done as quickly as possible, I am very surprised no one came in prior to the end of the season to replace DC to be honest. I am sure that will be done soon and the manager soon after. I would love to be new manager, it would be all my dreams come true!}

 

 

16 May 2012 22:37:56
Am disgusted with FSG. Wrong decision for all the wrong reasons. At least Steve Clarke has integrity. I've been stewing about this all night. I feel like FSG have let down a lot of people. Unfortunately, I think they will go for a lesser manager, with a limited budget in the summer. My optimism about next season is at its lowest. It is a backwards step, top 4 next season is now almost impossible. My faith in FSG has been hit hard. Are these the right caretakers for our club? Time will tell, but so will our wait to get back to the top with this lot in charge.

Nick.

I appreciate what you say, but I think they would think of their 100s of millions investment making them more than caretakers.

To us, football is a family and passion... to owners, on the whole with exception of Chelsea and City, it's business.

 

 

16 May 2012 22:37:15
Hello people,

Can any of the eds or any of the LFC fans hazard a guess to whether lfc will name a new manager either before the euros or after?

Plain Taunt Hall

 

 

16 May 2012 22:35:35
Daniel Agger, Martin Skrytl, & Luis Suarez will leave the club this summer, & who can blame them. LFF will be fighting relegation next seaon. Gerrard may move on also

Josek

I'm not sure what the Libyan Football Federation has to with our players leaving.

Martin

 

 

16 May 2012 22:34:57
Hi all, sorry to see the king go thought he should of got another year.
Would like to see benitez come back with carragher as his right hand man.
ssg

The football would be terrible. Best defensive record in the league, but we'd finish fifth.

David

 

 

16 May 2012 22:32:28
Ian Holloway !

 

 

16 May 2012 22:31:44
I totally agree with Macca,
Jurgen Klopp or Rafa Benitez would be the most viable candidates for the current managers position,

however my sources say that Frank Rijkaard is most likely to be appointed the new manager, he's apparently been contacted already.

Also David Dein will be appointed Chairman this week.

Regards,

Daniel Hanwell

 

 

16 May 2012 22:31:40
A reminder that captain steven gerrard was named England captain in the Euros.

 

 

16 May 2012 22:30:23
I have it on good authority that these are the names being put forward for the following roles at LFC:

CEO: Daffy Duck
Director of Football: Porky Pig
Manager: Bugs Bunny
Assistant Manager: Elmer Fudd

Why you may ask?

Is it because FSG are turning us into a Mickey Mouse club?

Dalglish knew the minimum target was 4th place this season. I guess they are very much target driven.

I think those characters are from Looney Tunes and therefore You are not telling he truth. Factually incorrect!

Dirks Engine Room

I work with Elemer fudd, he's a right laugh!.

 

 

16 May 2012 22:30:11
sorry havent been on for a while just to be realistic fsg are not goin for any manager that is currently with any club as the compo would be to expensive so heres the dreams of the special one and martinez,rodgers and lambert dashed we would be looking at mcleish,benitez,mick mcarthy thanks truered

 

 

16 May 2012 22:30:08
God help us......1 step forward, 2 steps back every year. We have to really accept that Liverpool Football Club is just 'average'. Next we'll lose our better players, draft in some nobody to manage and do it all again next year. Can't wait.......

 

 

16 May 2012 22:29:58
Gutted for Kenny, should have beem given longer than 1 season, seeing as he gave up a lot to come back and steady the ship so to speak.

Hopefully see him back in another role for the club, but i doubt it!

Liverpool FC is no longer the Liverpool FC of old. "The Liverpool way" as some put it is now but deceased.
A new regime and management are on board and do things their way. regardless of who you are or what ties you have to the club.

My options for manager would be:
Klopp
AVB (unfinished business in the prem)
De Boar

Good luck Kenny in your future. YNWA

Lee73

 

 

16 May 2012 22:29:48
Ed001, you say Marcelo Bielsa is very unlikely, is it the same for Jurgen Klopp?

We need a manager of their pedigree! ..

Stone YNWA. {Ed001's Note - I really have no idea about Klopp, I wouldn't mind him coming in, though I would still prefer Bielsa.}

Bielsa are you joking ed? whats he done with bilbao only 2 finals this year not good enuf these days.

IBIMO {Ed001's Note - turned Chile into the most exciting side in international football prior to that.}

 

 

16 May 2012 22:29:38
These are tough days indeed. I can't help but feel this decision to sack Kenny is a step backwards. Clearly the problem was the initial appointment of Kenny as long term manager. He did well in his caretaker role, and if FSG didn't think he was the right man long term, then they should not have appointed him, only to sack at end of season. Clearly they feel that the direction we are headed is the wrong direction, and I can see that appointment of a new manager will come with it another overhaul of the squad. I think it is a step backwards since the new team will again need a year to gel. However, it is hard to argue that we needed a whole new approach. Hopefully they get it right this time, but this project will surely take 3 - 4 years to bare fruit.

Most here don't seem to support AVB, but the truth is, he is young, tactical, and will have something to prove (against Chelsea atleast!). I think he has to be the best man for the job, unless the owners can somehow bring in Pep G, which is looking unlikely. The Rafa rumours are ridiculous. No chance they will go with him. I think the owners want to wash their hands with the old LFC, and create a modern progressive LFC.

Since this is a rumours page, I will give you my thoughts on players:

Suarez will leave. He probably wanted to anyway, but this will give him the opportunity to do so with a valiant reason (ie. he was loyal to Kenny, etc.). I suspect Downing, Spearing, Carra, Maxi, Kuyt and Adam have played their last game for LFC. I expect Carroll and Henderson to stay. Likely 4 - 5 new players. I expect we will sign Dempsey, and probably several young guns from the continent, and who they are will depend on who the new coach is. I don't buy that the owners will put our future in Martinez hands. Yes his team plays exciting football, but the owners love stats, and Wigan's flirtation with the drop zone will surely scare them off.

Not sure what to expect. Hope the owners do something quick to satisfy the fans (like signing Eden Hazard....).

Finally, respect for Kenny. I think he had to go, but he is a hero and legend on so many levels, that he deserves our praise. I really wish the owners had moved him to 'upstairs' instead of an outright sack, but who knows. Maybe Kenny didn't want it.

Canada Red

 

 

16 May 2012 22:29:32

King kenny Thankyou for all you have done for Liverpool F.C you will always be a legend



New Manger for me would be AVB

 

 

16 May 2012 22:27:27
eds u reckon we are keepin clarke to lure in vila boas? Hes apparantly joint favourite now with martinez, u reckon he would be a gud fit eds?

 

 

16 May 2012 22:26:48
Kenny should have been given another year. He is not just a legend but a legend with a track record. It took him 3 seasons to deliver success at Blackburn but he did it. FSG may be good businessmen but they know sweat FA ABOUT OUR CLUB or football. There is now a strong possibility of FSG cashing in on Suarez. This will put us a further step back. Anything other than a top notch experienced manager will be a recepie for disaster. Only someone like Van Gaal will do. From now on the trust in FSG is gone. Werner's comments just 4 weeks ago of having great faith in Kenny was a whopping lie. A very sad day. Reality Red

 

 

16 May 2012 22:23:48
I for one wouldn't be upset if avb was given a shot, He was brought into chelsea and told by abromavich to rid the squad of all the oldies. He was made a scapegoat. So rdm comes in throws an arm round drogba and fat frank and was bound to get a reaction. Avb with a young squad, money, contacts around europe i.e hulk moatinho, (not sayin we will sign these) I really think he could do well. Eds, fans What ya think?? {Ed001's Note - he has no tactical flexibility, that was his downfall.}

Agree ed

Peter

Nor did benitez, 4-2-3-1. {Ed001's Note - I don't want him either!}

He is a clown he tried to play the bilboa barca way with team that didn't suit it at all he was Hodgson at Liverpool picked a team around a very outdated 442 formation which just did not suit that style at all

 

 

16 May 2012 22:23:20
Its spooky they sack him after 17month love affair. We should of knew John Henry likes them young and new and not old and experience. Look at his current relationship.lol

 

 

16 May 2012 22:00:31
"I was under the impression Kenny wasnt first choice when originally hired anyway, but the view was that he would be the one who could come in and stablize a club in crisis. On that basis, it's job done. "
Congratulations YNWA - you have expressed it!

 

 

16 May 2012 21:42:46
Ok. HBO have been commissioned to make a documentary of the american-asses. Are they filming this Blow-by-blow.
I want to watch it, if they are.

 

 

16 May 2012 22:20:36
I personally feel that sacking a person of this caliber is wrong in so many ways , but whatever happens , happens for a reason. I am a fan who cried hearing this news and seriously want King Kenny to take some role (for eg ambassador) relating to this club. After hearing news about King Kenny given one more season , made this news worse than it really is. I hope now we look forward than backward (for eg Rafa) , people calling him fan favourite , but certainly i would have swapped King Kenny for Rafa any day. Long Live The King. YNWA. Selling Suarez wouldn't solve anything and is no solution to any problem . Selling him will deteriorate this situation. Hope these owners understand and dont cash in or sell him for various reasons ( what eds have stated ) , i just hope we keep hold of him for atleast 1-2 more seasons . His on field skills compensate for his " so called off field antics ".

AJI :*-(

 

 

16 May 2012 22:20:33
Gary Neville for next L FC manager.
Is that dodgy enough.

Could be true

Stranger things and all that

 

 

16 May 2012 22:18:19
hi eds do any of you believe capello would be the perfect choice to succeed kk? he knows a few of the senior players already, would instantly demand respect and has a winners mentality. also he would keep the players with a reputation such as suarez in line {Ed001's Note - no, he is not a good choice. If I want to watch dross I would have wanted us to keep Hodgson, Houllier or Benitez.}

 

 

16 May 2012 22:16:02
Would any LFC fans be pleased too have AVB as manager?. I think that would be a terrible apointment.

 

 

16 May 2012 22:15:45
For all those who say its a disgrace that coming 4th seems to be more important than winning a cup competition.
Remember that CL football generates a hell of a lot more revenue that winning the carling cup and you all name world class footballers as hopeful targets, We need money to buy these players and Carlisle away is not as appealing as playing in the camp nou.
On Dalglish....Seperate the player the legend from the manager. I think the owners saw that during our poor run of form we not once looked like we were going to turn it around..The suarez incident was a disgrace, If you talk about being set back years P****** 100m up the wall in one season is having a good go, and tbh his interviews?? were uncomfortable to say the least.
Cos were LFC and not chelski and we dont just sack managers etc..etc..
Everyone who said we should have given him more time answer this question
if it had nothing to do with sentiment. would you accept a new manager finishing 8th in his first year and still give him more time especially if he had no prior links with liverpool?

answers on a post card pls..

Dave

Kk is a legend he has produced some of the best football I have seen in recent years, he should have been given more time

Dear Dave,

Thank god you're not here.

Nick.

How's that?

 

 

16 May 2012 22:15:29
I hearing AVB could be next manager.After thinking about it I would be happy with that appointment and he could do a smashing job and could be with us for a long time.I personally would love mourinho but sure we never get what we always want in life.MATTYLFC

Bookis have stop takin bets on avb.

 

 

16 May 2012 22:14:37
Lord help us! Cappelo, Martinez, Avb & Rafa! Is this it? A has been Italian, a novice, a flop & a control freak! Remember the new guy has one season to get top 4 or he will get the bullet.

Whats Gus Hiddink up to these days?

The Irish Rover ( gutted still)

Well said Rover mate, it's pathetic. Macca says we got rid of Kenny because the owners' choice for the job has become available! I hope it's not Martinez!

AG

 

 

16 May 2012 22:13:26
rite kenny gone now so lets get a new manager in quickley and get set up for some transfers...
hope he gets good money to bring in some young quality players

 

 

16 May 2012 22:05:33
Right you yanks, so if we've become a hire/fire manager club, then I want to see the same financial input man city and chelsea have into LFC. You sack Dalglish because you
want instant results, then I expect instant results too and this comes at big price tag. I'm expecting champions league next season and premiereship title within 4 years otherwise it will be FSG-out for me. No one is bigger than our club, yes not Dalglish, (but he will always be our legend) and not Henry or Fenway Sports either. Now I expect Fenway to deliver!

An unhappy LFC supporter

 

 

16 May 2012 22:00:26
I would like to see Carra given a shot as player manager. No better man motivator around plus his knowledge of football, players, tactics etc is immense.

What do you think Eds?

Ridiculous idea

 

 

16 May 2012 22:00:07
FSG have spent a pittance at LFC compared to the owners of other big European Clubs when you factor in the Torres money.
Think this transfer window and the next 12 months will tell us if we have the right owners of the Club never mind the right Manager. Got a really bad feeling we could now be on the slippery slope to anonimity:(:(
Perhaps we really needed owners with a lot more money to invest for the love of LFC and football and not just profit.
kidmillions

I think the new manager, the backroom staff and the new management staff plus our summer dealings could well be enough to form a decent enough opinion of FSG.

Big summer coming up lads!

AG

You are an person and what happens when thes owners get fed up of Liverpool and we aren't fit to pay our wages

Fsg are running the club for long term they also have experience on how to run a sports franchise with the red sox who they have turned into the arguably the biggest baseball team in America

They have also invested serious money into the club by paying our massive wage bill and giving us money for transfers they didn't want Torres to leave but thank god he did because we got one of the greatest deals in footballing history

 

 

16 May 2012 21:58:09
I'm a close friend of the moores family and been informed rafa has already had an interview on looking at a return to manage lfc

Tell David he's a c**t!

Peter {Ed001's Note - he is not that useful!}

And why would Moores know that?

AG

 

 

16 May 2012 21:57:14
right or wrong Kenny is gone lets just raise a glass (or can) tonight for the king...... long live the king

 

 

16 May 2012 22:12:37
Luis Enrique is a possibility. Recently left Roma, did a cracking job with Barcelona B, big recognised name, still young

 

 

16 May 2012 22:12:15
Jürgen Klopp is the perfect replacement for Dalglish
only 44 so he is young and thats what fsg want
Fsg want along term manager that is commited to his job. Thats exactly what Klopp did to make Dortmund the best club in germany and thats what fsg want

Riggers

 

 

16 May 2012 22:11:57
Clearly i thought Kenny was going to stay..

I presumed this was because the manager the club wanted was not available..

The 2 names i have heard previously where

Allegri Massimiliano (Milan)

Klopp

Wil try and find more info...

Cheers

Macca

 

 

16 May 2012 22:09:20
the obvious choice is Jurgen Klopp, by far the standout

Hessle Red

 

 

16 May 2012 22:08:41
Pep Guardiola for manager. He wants a challenge, knows of Liverpool's club pedigree and acknowledges the owners drive for the best. Expect him to be appointed within 2 weeks.

RED FRED

 

 

16 May 2012 22:07:31
Was ferguson forced to sell Rio Ferdinand when he failed to show for a drug test, or when Rooney and Griggs had affairs? NO so why should we sell Suarez. Will Chelsea sell TerrY? No. FSG are the problem. FSG Out.

And would you buy the club?

Corvin

 

 

16 May 2012 22:04:04
Please read between the lines of the actions of the owners, the Dir of Football, Head of Medicine, Goalkeeping Coach and soon Ian Iyre will also move on, as well as some of the deadwood/flops, My strong opinion is that this is exactly what Rafa would want as a pre-condition to taking over. YNWA -DanieRed

 

 

16 May 2012 22:01:21
So fsg want to sell the fan favourate (Suarez) brillaint idea..

No player is bigger than the club.

 

 

16 May 2012 21:55:28
I really can see us going for a manager currently without a club. We have spent a lot releasing people from their contracts in the past 18 months. Purslow, Hodgson and his staff, now Dalglish. Martinez signed a new contract at Wigan last season and knowing the type of shrewd businessman Dave Whelan is, he'd probably demand a lot in compensation for us to secure Martinez's services.

AVB, who has now become favourite at a majority of bookmakers is unattached, and would fit the bill as far as FSG are concerned. A young manager, with the same philosophy as FSG in regards to buying younger and developing younger talent. AVB has also worked alongside Steve Clarke with Mourinho at Chelsea and with us retaining Clarke's services for the time being, could we have a ready-made assistant for AVB?

A lot of LFC fans are completely against AVB after what happened at Chelsea. I for one would be open to his appointment, given a senior, experienced and supportive Director of Football above him. He didn't get the support he deserved at Chelsea. He sacrificed the short-term for the long-term. He has a long-term plan, so do FSG. I'd take him over Martinez. That's my opinion anyway. You can all agree or agree to disagree!

Whoever the new manager is however, we all need to give them our full support and lets hope we have a great summer in terms of pre-season games, good, quality signings who will instantly improve the squad and hope we keep our current Number 7.

YNWA - MITCH

 

 

16 May 2012 21:55:27
Is it just me who wonders why the current owners, who have been around footy for 18 months and Ian Ayre think they know football better than Kenny Dalglish? Sacking him was totally the wrong decision, Harry Redknapp and Arsene Wenger have had years on Kenny, spent more money yet they are no closer to getting the league title.

Also if Suarez goes it just shows that the owners are more interested in money than football, I for one am more concerned with keeping our best player at the club than PR issues! Did Man U get rid of Cantona when he practised kung fu in the crowd?

Andy

How have you worked out that Harry and Wenger are no closer to the title than Kenny?

 

 

16 May 2012 21:54:49
Just sitting here thinking that although it's a fairly worrying time supporting this great old club of ours has rarely been dull ! YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 21:54:34
The best any manager can hope for from lfc, is a good cup team. everyone who comes to the club can see we lack the quality and numbers to mount a decent effort on the title.

 

 

16 May 2012 21:54:33
KD was a great player but poor manager. He inherited a great side from Fagan who inherited from Paisley and so on......
LFC were always 2/3 yrs ahead of any other team till KD took over in '85.
My source (who told me KD had been sacked yest) has told me they want experiences with alongside with a view to becoming manager in at least 6yrs.
PT77

 

 

16 May 2012 21:53:15
Is A champions league title the only thing that will keep a manager safe at lfc.

Honesty what are the odds that a manager will turn up in thier first season and win the premiership title? Billion to one. Where not in the champions league for a reason, our league form isn't good enough to get
4th spot,

Are we going to spend next 10 years sacking everyone who walks through the doors. EG u have a season to win me the title, FA Cup, Carling Cup. and get into Champions leauge. _+ if you manage all that, u have to win the cl cup next season.

Your buget will be 50p.. plus who ever you can sell and buy. Good luck with that strategy.

Wont other managers look at what Kenny has managed to do at the club and think, we bought them a cup in his first season. Got them into European football and he still got sacked.

I didn't see Harry Rednapp getting sacked this season and he will of achieved less than us this season. Once Chelsea win the champions league. Tottenham will be in the Europa cup + and not trophy.

 

 

16 May 2012 21:53:07
Seems to me that Kenny flushed the owners out about there plans for him early, asked for backing in the transfer market and got hesitation from them forcing them to show their hand.

What concerns me is what is their plan ?

Do the owners really think Martinez/Rogers type manager is high profile enough to attract the type of quality player to take us to the top ?

If they are serious then we can be looking at top coaches from Europe, I'm hoping they are moving now to nip in ahead of the likes of chelsea now so we can get into the transfer market an attract certain players.

what really worries me is that with little actual investment them selves and the stadium either way looking like a none started they are actually looking for a manager to who can stay compeditive on a shoestring budget.

If this is the case then relegation next season is a real possibility.

Long live the King !

 

 

16 May 2012 21:49:42
It's not too difficult to work out. It will not be a previous manager. Not some Spanish bloke who has struggled to keep a minor team in the Premier League. It will not be a Dutch bloke sacked by Bayern.
Eliminate these names, then you are getting close.

 

 

16 May 2012 21:48:54
I have a question who's left to tell the football clules owners which manger to sign.
Mf

Haha good point! Maybe it's that tea lady!

Nick.

 

 

16 May 2012 21:48:11
Farewell Kenny YNWA...... My first choice targets would be Klopp or Biesla.....surely our transfer targets will change now but who knows? hope it doesn't take long to sort out.

Square tomato

 

 

16 May 2012 21:45:54
I don't usually get these things posted so i will add this to the topic already going on.

KK has been sacked and although he is the person ultimately responsible for the teams performance and tactics, i do believe the owners have been too hasty. I will refer you to a Sir Alex Ferguson when he took the reigns at Man Utd he nearly relegated them. To get a world beating team takes time. Kenny has had this current squad out playing most of the teams in the league this year, and 1 of the best defensive records too. The problem we had was getting the final product. I do believe that once andy carroll does gain confidence he looks like he will be a top player. Not a goal machine like villa or aguero but more like 20 or 25..... which isn't too far away from rooney.

Then you have to think about what direction the next manager wants to go ( yes i know up the table...CL etc)...what i was meaning is are the current players able to adapt to a continental playing style or is it just an english PL style? I would probably say its more PL style so bringing in any top manager like Guardiola or Jose Mourinho would still struggle.

i think the smart thing would be to utilize loans with views to buy....as well as obtain our top 3 targets....that way we can give the crap back if it ain't good enough

ED's any input or anything you would like to add? {Ed001's Note - not sure about the loans thing mate. I am never keen on the loan system, I would prefer to see it scrapped myself.}

 

 

16 May 2012 21:45:47
Any transfer rumours our targets on here now be less. With no DoF & no gaffer, there surely can't be players lined up?...

Gav the Red

 

 

16 May 2012 21:45:24
To be honest, I am insulted as a Liverpool fan. These owners knew nothing about football before they bought this club. I have loved a deep knowledge of global football all my life. What gives them the wisedom to sack Kenny? It is no overstatement to say that ever single commenter on this site has a deeper knowledge of football than they do.

They make officially own the club but no owners should forget that it is really the fans who own it. Why should people be allowed to 'own' a club just because they are extremely fortunate in life. The less fortunate ones of us care so much more than they do. To them, it is a business, to us, it is a way of life.

 

 

16 May 2012 21:43:11
Just like to say I have great respect for Kenny and to all those who are sad about his departure. It is better to leave whilst he was loved, thought of in the highest esteem as a manager and player than it would have been for him to leave with shame. He made the club stable and if we have success in the future it will have been because of his building blocks

 

 

16 May 2012 21:52:12
People justifying AVB by sayn he failed at Chelsea because of unrest within the squad an he would of succeeded otherwise it was the unrest that HE caused for god sake.
Please please please no AVB dear god please

Peter

I suppose Scolari, Grant and Ancelotti all caused the unrest as well did they?

Im sorry what was your point?
Grant and ancelotti were successful...

Peter

 

 

16 May 2012 21:41:57
will people stop talking about rafa yes he did well but if you want the truth he is not as great as people delude themselves infact he was just the face who may i add came so close to winning the league but blew it if you want to know who the mastermind behind rafas success is look no further than his then assistant pako ayestaron (spelling) why do you think he done so crap in his last year he fell out wiv pako who left the club. if you should be calling anyone it should be pako

 

 

16 May 2012 21:40:03
Still feeling numb, but I think FSG have taken a huge gamble here.

Whilst I understand when you look at it as a single season it has been way below expectations and a disaster from a PR perspective, but when you look what we've been through over the last 3 years, there have been huge positives in terms of the way we play, a trophy in the cabinet and another final and despite the ravings of the instant success generation, a feeling that the club was back in safe hands.

All of that changed today for me and for the first time in 35 years as a fan, I don't know what to think.

We don't know what went on in the meeting between Kenny and the owners. It may be the case that as Macca says they didn't intend to sack him and Kenny forced their hand by giving them an ultimatum. We all know how stubborn he can be.

That said, Kenny was a link between the fans and the owners. He publicly backed them and assured us they wanted the club to be successful again.

We were all grateful for the way they got rid of H&G, but now they have sacked a legend. Whilst some may say their decision is justified, they are now exposed and huge amounts of goodwill towards them will have gone.

Their next step will determine our future direction and will be scrutinised by fans and media alike. Suarez is no doubt next to go and we are effectively starting again.

I just pray they get it right for the good of the club and whilst they are clearly willing to make tough decisions, I can't see how getting rid of Kenny at this point with no other obvious quality candidate readily available is a positive step.

The next year or so will define their ownership. Time to show your true intentions FSG.

Evs the Red

PS Thanks for everything over the last 30 odd years in good times and bad Kenny. Still a legend and will always be the best player to wear the Liver bird on his chest. YNWA.

 

 

16 May 2012 21:38:06
Mourinho is known to respect Liverpool's history and the passion of the fans and the Reds are arguably one of only a handful of clubs in the world that could attract the Special One.

With financial backing from FSG, the challenge of knocking Man United and Fergie off their perch would appeal to Mourinho and his penchant for winning titles would certainly appeal to Liverpool


LTP The Red

Would be appealing, but I just don't see it happening.

NY23

Are you serious? It's well known that Mourinho can't stand Liverpool, and even said one he would never manage the club. {Ed016's Note - Tevez will never play for City again either.....oh wait)

Good reply editor

 

 

16 May 2012 21:36:58
I mentioned it the other day, and I'll say it again...Jupp Heynckes!

dmedly

 

 

16 May 2012 21:36:34
surely sacking king kenny has built a rod for fsg,s back if the new manager doesnt finish above seventh in his first season and there is a fan backlash surely they cant then turn round and ask us to be patient after they have shown no patience with kk

 

 

16 May 2012 21:36:13
8th is not good enough, simple as, I'm glad that the owners identfied this as not good enough and hopefully they will get someone that can get us in the top 4 [and hopefully sell Downing (20 mil down the toilet)], the owners actually has ambition for this club unlike a lot of fans on here that's too sentimental and doesn't know what's best for the club, so everybody support them because they want the club to be back at the heights it use to be and I'm glad that they'll do anything, including relieving KD (a legend) from his position, to achieve this!

 

 

16 May 2012 21:35:39
Personally through the last few years and change in manager we have always been strongly linked with Rikaard. Master mined i. The development of barca before pep took over. Would be the best manager if it was possible

 

 

16 May 2012 21:34:52
Whoever FSG appoint as the new manager in the next few days/weeks all LFC supporters need to show some support! We call for Dalglish's head, then when he's sacked we criticise the owners and say were doomed (no wonder recent managers have found the job tough).
Stop being so negative and show some support, to the new manager, the players and any new signings. Let's get back into the top four!
YNWA

Not all supporters called for his head. Don't tar us all with the same brush please.
KJS

 

 

16 May 2012 21:34:33
What really worries me is that if our "new manager" whoever that is, does not do any better than Kenny has this season, then we will be facing the same scenario this time next year.
We will then just turn into hire and fire merchants like city or Chelsea.
It pains me to say it, but I would rather be like Utd or Arsenal and at least give our manager loyalty and plenty of time.
I really fear for the future of this club if they do not give the next manager a few years to build.
Poor old Shanks must be turning in his grave!
KJS

 

 

16 May 2012 21:33:02
Can we expect any unrest in the players? Cant see bellamy sticking around.

Red Grand

 

 

16 May 2012 21:32:39
Anyone know much about Lucien Favre of Borussia Moenchengladbach?
Noticed his name quite high up in the betting odds as our next boss.
I think AVB is going to get the job, although im sure I heard he'd agreed to go to Roma?

Mick D

I've done a bit of research. He sounds like a decent manager, but at 54 he's not the younger man FSG are looking for I would suspect.

Mick D

 

 

16 May 2012 21:32:28
Does anybody else think there was some kind of top level bust up after winning the carling cup, instead of spurring the players on they took a backwards step in terms of results, could they all have known the end was in sight for KD?

 

 

16 May 2012 21:31:14
well we should all learn to now trust ed 002, she has been absolutely spot on! Thank you very much!
MIKEYRED

 

 

16 May 2012 21:26:51
Someone has tweeted Jamie carraghar ( spelling) has tweeted the lads at Lfc want rafa !!

 

 

16 May 2012 21:26:34
Some people want benitez back i believe? I think we arnt an attraction for some managers, being out of champions league and extortionate amount of money to spend so benitez is only one of a handful of experienced european managers available. i think we had a couple of good seasons out of him before his rant, and his 2nd in command paco leaving and things went tits up. we always seemed a million away from his targets, villa, alves, barry simao and so on. the thing that got me though, i know they cant get all signings right was for every alonso there was a nunez. for every torres there was a josemi. dont think it would be the end of the world if he came back, but no thanx from me DAR

 

 

16 May 2012 21:25:34
Anfield legend Tommy Smith said he "felt sorry" for Dalglish but predicted that Liverpool fans will get behind the new manager when he is named.

Speaking from his home in Liverpool, hard man Tommy, 67, said: "My first thoughts are 'What do the American's really know about football?'

i couldnt agree more.
still, lets see who these "owners" bring in.
UNCLE ZAINY BEAR

 

 

16 May 2012 21:25:10
Does anyone know whether "theturdz" mate is still doing the refurb at Melwood?

Could do with some reliable inside info after the day we've had!

dmedly

I guess we will see him back once the transfer season kicks in. I am still waiting for his 'Barton to LFC' exclusive!

AG

 

 

16 May 2012 21:30:09
im really sorry that KK has been sacked, but i would really wished that he had another year to prove himself (Ferguson, mancini ect). A team cannot be built a in just one year (look at man city with mancini).
But this is what you get
1) when there is favoritism (henderson)
(benitez with lucas, Ngog kuyt: now maybe lucas has come good but at that time no, the team was suffering with two player out of position. note: Liverpool FC first team is not an ``ecole de football``
for young inexperience player to play one season as fist choice; Houllier with traore, biscan ect)they had options to buy established players.

2) some liverpool players playing poorly but still saying in the media that the boys played well, gave everything, were fantastic, wee bit unlucky ect..too friendly with players, afraid to upset a non performing player (what ferguson did to beckham, nani ect if you don`t deliver..you are paid in Kilo.. so no room for mistakes)

3) substitution and rotation

Carrol coming off the bench but downing getting substituted ect... In form player playing one week next week on bench (caroll/ maxi / shelveyect.. )

4) playing players out of position just for the sake of not dropping favorite player.

5) tactics and team selection at home.

6) had the opportunity to buy in january in problematic position (where everyone could see except Mr KK) he said the squad was very good. lucas injured for half the season, he trusted an inexperience, limited player like spearing in the team engine room for half a season,
7) not looking for players with pace, where Liverpool FC is crying for the last decade.
8) not addressing the misses in the penalty area correctly (goal scored ratio very poor).

9) Handling of media

But all this could have been corrected given another season.

Budashow

Very good post providing some informed judgements. I do think though that Kenny saw this as a transitional season which it had to be given the amount of new players needed due to the poor squad left by Rafa. In a perfect world Kenny would have blooded the likes of Henderson slowly but had no choice given the shallowness of the inherited squad and key injuries to Gerrard and Lucas. I believe he was also looking to the longer term and the likes I'd Henderson will really have developed from the minutes on the pitch this season. I think Kenny made a mistake in signing Downing and in not playing Carroll in enough consecutive games to get him firing. All in all though with the radical changes that needed to be made, I think the improvement in the football we played along with 2 cup finals should be more than enough to get The King another season! I honestly don't believe that Kenny could have been sacked for footballing reasons if the Americans have done their research. More likely Kennys inability to deal with the media and the cock up with the Suarez incident! I hope they know what they're doing but can't see who can come in and do a better job
Greaty

 

 

16 May 2012 21:30:03
I've just heard that Steve Kean is the front runner for the Liverpool job.

Great news! top manager...Miles better than Kenny and looks like he could genuinely get Liverpool back to the top! Fingers crossed ay guys!

Martinez unfortunately did turn you down according to Wheelan, he said his reason for doing so is because he will only leave Wigan for a big club. You win some, you some ay? or in your case, you lose some, you lose some more ;).

hehe. Have a fun evening guys!

The Moon.

Hardly warrants a response but here goes - shouldn't you be away celebrating your season trophy haul ? Oh, that's right, you didn't win any ...

Haha, nice one muppet. i suspect your worried that we'll get it right this time, and take back what is ours, next season.

Mick D

Take back wot u never had ? Good one - another from the delusional ranks in la la land

 

 

16 May 2012 21:29:42
Hey eds,
Have to say I'm really disappointed with the timing of KK's sacking. With no director of football in place we have to turn all our focus to recruiting a manager whilst recruitment of new players is obviously needed. Just wondering eds if you think this could be another summer of settling for second rate players instead of pushing the boat out for the quality players we deserve.
Matlock24 {Ed001's Note - we got most of the players we went for, no settling involved. No wonder confidence is low amongst the players with 'fans' like you!}

Well said ed001 people like this need putting in their place if they dont like it jump on the city bandwagon

 

 

16 May 2012 21:29:28
What a bloody day that has been, still trying to take it all in. I honestly don't know how I feel about the sacking of Kenny, part of me thinks it was the right decision and we needed a change. On the other hand, if FSG don't have a manager of serious pedigree lined up to replace KD then I fear it may be a regrettable decison.

Although Martinez, Rodgers and Lambert have all had great seasons with their respective clubs, I think managing a club of Liverpool's stature is a step too far for them currently.

In my opinion we need to be looking at the likes of Bielsa, Klopp(although highly unlikely), De Boer(again unlikely), Deschamps or AVB. The latter is a manager whom I was really impressed by during his time with Porto and genuinely thought he looked the real deal but I, like most of you, would be less enthusiastic about him after his stint at chelsea.

Anyway, it all seems to be up in the air at the minute but hopefully some clarity will be found in the coming days. Thanks King Kenny for your infinite love for, and committment to, our beloved club. You'll always be a King to us! YNWA

Cheers,

Red Pedro.

 

 

16 May 2012 21:28:56
Just heard from a reporter on skysports news, outside Anfield that Steve Clarke is still at Anfield. He has not resigned or been sacked. So now everyone can stop talking trash.

On another note im gutted about Kenny and really hoped he would have got another season atleast...But from a business point of view you can understand where FSG are coming from.

Lastly we should be proud that 4 possibly 5 members of our first team, will represent England this summer at the euro's. Lets not forget the rest of the international players we have in our squad, that will be at the Euro's also. Good luck to all of them and hope they come back injury free.

Chad

 

 

16 May 2012 21:24:45
Kenny Dalglish's exit from Liverpool has been speculated about heavily in the rumor mill over the last week, but at last, it's official: The King has been reportedly sacked.

For those who aren't aware, this is Dalglish's second spell as Liverpool manager, after an initial spell as player-manager that saw Dalglish bring the club three League titles, two FA Cups, and four Charity Shields.

He also brought the club six League titles, one FA Cup, four League Cups, three European Cups, and one European Super Cup as a player, affirming his legacy as a Liverpool legend.

Liverpool (1985–1991, 2011–2012)

***League Title (3): 1985–86, 1987–88, 1989–90
***FA Cup (2): 1985–86, 1988–89
***Football League Cup (1): 2011–12
***Charity Shield (4): 1986 (Shared) 1988, 1989, 1990 (Shared)


Vote Shouldn't of gotten sack Vs Should have

 

 

16 May 2012 21:24:37
Not a rumour of question but I'd like to commend the Eds on their handling of the questions, today in particular. You've shown tremendous patience with some of the questions you've had to answer, I honestly don't know how you do it. So, thanks :)

Also, would you consider setting up a chipin or something so that us fans who want to show appreciation can send a little bit of change your way?

Have a good night. {Ed001's Note - I suppose we could put up a paypal donation button again. We used to have one when there was just one site, always made me a little uncomfortable though!}

No mate stick it back on, ideally somewhere visible so those of us that actually value yours and the other eds can show it...

Suffolk'n Red

I suggested payments the other day but you didn't post it - thought I was red-carded

Puzzled {Ed001's Note - I personally am not keen on the idea to be honest. Having a donation button always feels a little uncomfortably like begging. At least with an ad, you only click on it if you are interested, so you are getting something in return.}

 

 

16 May 2012 21:22:35
Question for any of the eds

Do you think Lucien Favre would be an option? Gladbach have played some amazing football this season and finished 4th in the Bundesliga.

Would much rather have him at Anfield than Rodgers, Lambert etc. {Ed001's Note - don't know sorry, I never watched any Bundesliga this season.}

 

 

16 May 2012 21:21:58
Trophies at our club now means no job security.
Suarez rumoured to be on his way and what with Man City, Chelsea and Arsenal rumoured to be spending big then top 4 qualification is not guarunteed.
I can only assume that the next manager must have a glorious CV and team behind him plus be a magnet for footballing stars wanting to sign for him.
I guess he would have won titles and had Eurpean success.
Either way he will want his own players which means a clear out and he must have a fat wallet to spend.
He will need to catch up to United and Spurs in terms Of squad strength and be able to hijack players from under the nose of Chelsea, Aresnal and City.
This best be a special manager or what's the point of sacking Dalglish.
I hope we don't make the same mistake as we did with Hodgson and sign some media darling but a proven successful manager.

 

 

16 May 2012 21:20:07
Maybe FSG were waiting for Alex Mcleish to become available;)

 

 

16 May 2012 21:17:54
Evening eds going to be a long summer and not looking forward to next season ,think we will be laughing stock once again .

Why wud we be a laughing stock ?

That's the spirit!...Rome 77

 

 

16 May 2012 21:13:10
Ed/macca, do you think the club already had lined up candidates for the managers job before Kenny was "relieved"?
This could take some time, need all new coaches a DOF, comma director positions for whoe ever else was sacked. Then we have to try get our transfers done.

Aussie red {Ed001's Note - I would certainly expect the club to have had plans in place, just in case.}

 

 

16 May 2012 21:10:18
slightly off topic, but would anyone be interested if there was liverpool-rumours league set up for the Euro fantasy football?

 

 

16 May 2012 21:17:27
Bring RAFA back only good manager out there and he bring in spanish players again:) likes of ALONSO, SOLDADO, JORDI ALBA, LLORENTE, JAVI MARTINEZ

come on how can you say you can't take him back

hes the won who ad us win the champion league 5times come on:)

LFC4LIFE

In Rafa WE DONT TRUST. . . .

You must be insane to let rafa back through the doors. It took the management years to get ride of him. Why would they want a strong man in charge.

We appear to have the same sign off...


LFC4LIFE

He chased alonso

He also gave us countless 0-0 draws and many drab performances

How can you sign of with LFC4LIFE if you dont even know theres no chance alonso would ever work with rafa again

He had us win it once, not 5 times

Kenny won the Champions League more and people were able to say no to him and just because he's spanish doesn't mean the the likes of Llorente and Soldado will be jumping at his heels to join him. -McMenemy

Love this site never posted before, feel I need too. Sad day for Liverpool, kk should have been given at least till Christmas, I believe this is down to the financial backers of the club i.e standard charterded(spelling) the Suarez affair where I accept Lfc and Suarez were wrong but had no leadership in the club to diffuse the situation. Anyway money men now rule our club. Here comes avb

Since when did Rafa win the champions leag5 ta team that won the CL.
TIZER RED

Yea and he could sell them for wanting to be at their childs birth and try get gareth barry instead

He sold Alonso.

 

 

16 May 2012 21:17:20
Just for fun people.... put down your most dodgy choice for the next LFC manage.

Mine would be Phil Babb :)

Paul Ince

Lol or djimi traore haa haa

Garry megson all day long!

Square tomato

Robbie Keanes mum Gloria Hunniford

Markus Babbel (born 8 September 1972) is a former international German football ... he contracted Guillain“Barré syndrome and was unable to play for a year.

Titi Camara with Berger as assistant and roy evans director of football lol

Bruce grobbelar :)

Gary Neville (dodgy enough?)

Iain Dowie.............HELL NO!!!
KernowRed

Howard kendall

Roy Hodgson!

Rafa Benitez

Chris in Tamworth

Martinez. Lambert. Rogers. Mourinho. Redknapp. And that's just to start with...
ND

Bjorn tore kvarme

Ryan Babel on a player/manager contract!

AG

 

 

16 May 2012 21:16:41
If this is the right decision or not depends upon who gets the job next, I pray that it's not Martinez or Rogers though, they would both be gone by xmas and we would be bottom of the league. Also I have to say I've had Talksport on in the van all afternoon and the amount of fans practically crying was pathetic, people need to get a grip. At the end of the day if any of us were in charge of the club and had a league season like the one we've just witnessed then you would have sacked Kenny also. The problem we seem to have is some of our fans are totally blinded with emotion, we all need to take a step back and try to take an objective view at what's gone on. Yes Kenny is a legend with what he's done in the past but that's the problem we have, a lot of us are still there, in the past when things were great. Time and the game has moved on and we can't afford to do things the way we used to because it obviously doesn't work any more and we should be thankful that we have owners who recognise that fact and are trying to drag us forward. I'm not saying that FSG are going to be successful or not but the fact that they are doing something about our situation we should be thankful about. Let's see what happens because it can't get worse than last season can it? Also before anyone say's "but we won the league cup" go and read what Shankly said about the league, something about it being our "bread and butter".

 

 

16 May 2012 21:16:32
Eds we all knw suarez make big mistakes but we all think he should say I think his sacking will upset most of the fanns and I will me very upset he have put all of that behind him {Ed001's Note - I think you are wrong, not everyone thinks he should stay. I never thought it was a good idea to buy him, there was always going to be trouble.}

For me, if we can get 25-30M for him I'd call it a good bit of business. That would finance a pretty decent replacement.

Honestly, I think Suarez is a decent player and can be fun to watch, but I don't think he's been as fantastic as everyone else, I guess. He's clearly a bit of a wild card and frankly hasn't been all that prolific for someone bought as a striker, so for me it certainly wouldn't be the end of the world as long as we can get a decent replacement in.

RDL

Put it this way RDL, without Suarez this season, how do you think we would have performed?

AG

 

 

16 May 2012 21:15:58
For history, it's a sad day.
For the future, it's hopefully a golden step

Thats almost poetic

The best post. it will help our future. {Ed016's Note - The owners have said that Kenny built a solid foundation, he did. He brought the club back together after the split and the tearing from previous owners. For that, I will be forever grateful)

For history its a rainy day
For the future, its hopefully a golden shower..

come along jaqueline....benidorm

 

 

16 May 2012 21:15:37
No unproven manager, please.
No lack of funds to push us to the next level.
No selling of best players.

If FSG can move the club forward without the above, then they should have our support.

But, if they sell our best player(s) e.g Suarez, or if they bring in someone unproven at the very highest level, like Martinez and/or they do not make reasonable funds available to continue the progress of this club, then they deserve failure and the fans rebellion that they are likely to get.

I truly hope that they really understand what is required and are prepared to do everything they can to make progress.

Get FSG to sell up and move out then. they should float the club on stock exchange and piss off back baseball. Let the fans generate the money needed for stadium and players with shares issue

 

 

16 May 2012 21:15:15
Ed, should we not consider Jamie Caragher in some sort of capacity on the coaching staff? {Ed001's Note - not for me, I think a major issue at the club is the overriding influence of Carragher and Gerrard.}

Why what hassle do they cause?explain? tanx

majestic69 {Ed001's Note - they remind me of clique that was in place at United when Fergie came in. They run the dressing room, if you aren't one of them, you are on the outside, as Torres found. That was what Fergie did, he got rid of the cliques, that is what we need at Liverpool.}

Ed 001, you mean in a similar way to Chelsea and their senior players? Could you elaborate at all? MIKEYRED {Ed001's Note - very similar. Gerrard and Carragher were involved in decision making on player signings etc during the Rafa era. They pretty much picked Roy Hodgson. But then Gerrard was able to choose which position he played, when he decided he was too important to play on the right. It is a lack of discipline, they should be players and give an opinion, but then do as they are told and play where ever they are told to play.}

Ed001,

This is widely known and been spoken about many times before concerning Jamie Carragher and Stevie Gerrard's overriding influence within the club are the owners aware of this at all?

LFC4LIFE {Ed001's Note - I would hope so.}

Still at that old unproven chestnut!

Its worn out give it a rest.

Gerrard & Carra are not the enemy.

And who was the only manager to get the best out of both, even if it meant moving them out of position and/or taking them off the pitch if they played with their heart? Remember How much Alex spent on Veron? How much did City spend on Robinhio (cant spell). You are going to get duff signings.....

 

 

16 May 2012 21:11:10
Possible candidate: Luis Enrique

 

 

16 May 2012 20:50:57
Forever a Legend!!



Lyndon

 

 

16 May 2012 20:49:48
With this complete and total clear out of the slate, FSG is hopefully signalling that they have both a strong-minded efficient DOF and a really competent experienced coach, in mind. A Martinez or a Rodgers doesn't do it for me. That'll be another 1 year regime that'll get the boot (something FSG is is well known for in their handling of the Boston Red Sox). I wonder if there will be a clear out of players too, this summer.

I don't believe one bit of their statement citing ""He (KD) did more than anyone else to stabilise Liverpool over the past year-and-a-half and to get us once again looking forward. We owe him a great debt of gratitude" That's just a polite send-off for public consumption. The man should have been asked to resign, and given a dignified respectful exit for "health reasons".

Let's see if FSG have learnt their "football" by now. No news of any new stadium of any kind, no stability of any kind at the club, and no sign of the professional competence LFC is accustomed to. Back to square one. YNWA. ra1969

 

 

16 May 2012 20:49:36
Sad day for all true LFC fans. Not the time to be throwing names around, but agree with Macca that we need an established manager with a track record at clubs who are expected to win every game they play.
Now is the time to respect a true legend of this club. Thank you for everything Kenny - you will always be the King.

All true LFC fan ? so if you not support Kenny you are not true LFC fan ? is Kenny Biger then LFC ? {Ed016's Note - No one is. But he is a brilliant man, who gave everything for this club. He did all he could, steadied the ship and now someone needs to take it forward)

 

 

16 May 2012 21:09:30
We could be
The New Villa, if they've got this wrong.
Not been in a final or won anything for years, starting to play, got stability, need tweaking a little...,
Now this..
I hope they are as good as everybody says they are, or wilderness here we come..
PistolPete

I have compared our owners to Lerner few times in the past few months, when he first came in he had the same rhetoric about buying young english players, he brought in the fans favourite in Oneill , gave him money to spend , and always said that he gives Oneill his full backing up to three days before he sacked him.
I think and really hope our owners are better than that, what they do in the next few weeks is as important as October 2010, the type of manager they bring in will be a massive sign for their ambitions or lack off.
Roy

Or god forbid
The New Saints

welshman pistup pete

 

 

16 May 2012 21:09:18
hi eds,please pardon my ignorance but if dein comes in what does his job role actuall include?is it similar to comolis old 1? {Ed001's Note - no, he will be in charge of the other side of the club, not the football one.}

Ed 001; do you know if Ian left of his own wish or was he sacked? I can find a logical reason to sack Kenny but Ian is puzzling me and concerning me!
We basically have no more scousers or old faces left in the top level management of the club, a complete shift in identity.
Roy {Ed001's Note - Ian Ayre was supposed to be providing executive level direction at the club, what was he doing during the Suarez saga? He was completely invisible. He failed completely in his job.}

 

 

16 May 2012 21:07:55
Question to the eds or anyone who knows > can anyone give any insight to who or how the owners Fenway Sports Group (FSG) will decide who's next for the hot seat , I mean who advises/educates then about football , they are business man and are probarly good at that ,I understand that steve Clark is still there and most people know Steve is a great defensive coach ,it's make you wonder if they will use the moneyball theory {Ed001's Note - there is no moneyball theory in football.}

Ed will the next manager have total management, club control of the football club. Top to bottom (something Kenny did not have (or rafa))

Rafa could of bought in lots of quality players if management hadn't stopped him at every stage. Kenny has been managing with both hands tied behind his back {Ed001's Note - no.}

 

 

16 May 2012 21:07:32
Everyone naming their fav managers to get the job but why has no one mentioned..
1.Kevin Keegan
2.Steve Bruce
3.Roy Keane
4.Harry Rednutt
5.Mick McCarthy
6.Roy Eavans
7.Graeme Souness
8.Andy Gray
9.Margret Thatcher
10.George Jackson

Ehhhh, Because they are all very bad options ?

Im voting for Kevin Keegan and 2 billion in cash. (we also need a state stupid enough to give us the money)

imagine, kevin keegan let loose to buy who ever he liked the look of. That would be an attacking team.

Because they are s**t?

 

 

16 May 2012 21:00:29
I believe Steve Bruce is available?

Surprised the clueless warriors on here havnt asked for him.

SL

Well im not.

I like Steve Bruce

Isnt that just on the Mellonheads Dating Site..sm

 

 

16 May 2012 21:00:21
This whole suarez "affair" is really starting to chaffe all over again. How can people be sacked or moved on from the club on the verdict of 3 of fergies mates who couldnt even conclusively determine what had happened that day. The money men over the pond clearly do not watch the matches. With exception of 4 or 5 games out of the 38 we have had the upperhand in the games but failed to put our chances away and succumbed to late winners or equalisers from the opposition. A goal poacher and right winger would have pushed us up probably into the top 4. If suarez is sold for any other reason then an astronomical bid then i would really have to wonder if the owners have a clue.

Woolyback Andy

 

 

16 May 2012 21:03:58
Long term success is not built on short term knee jerk reactions influenced by an anti LFC media. Shanks was not instantly successful, but he built the foundations of a dynasty which is now beginning to crumble with all these sackings over the last three years. The next appointment is now the most important decision to be taken since the appointment of shanks. FSG have got to get it right. By the way the King should have been told to resign rather than being sacked, the dignity and humility with which he has conducted himself over the last 30 years is a an example to all to follow. Good luck with wherever your life takes you next Kenny the memories of your days as a player and extraordinary management are woven into the fabric as much as shanks' story. YNWA.

 

 

16 May 2012 21:03:42
this is for all those having a go at people who called for kenny to go and are having a go at FSG.
who do you think you are? everyone of us loves kenny and always will, but the fact of the matter is he didnt get the results, and this has given FSG no choice, do you want us to be a top 10 club or a top 4 club. this shows FSG want the best for the club and to be higher up the table. so lay off people, every one of us can have an opinion

big red g

Big red g, I would be delighted if it was truly about football results and football ambition.
I fear it is driven by sponsorship pressure and balance sheets.
I hope I am proven wrong.
Red Derry
Also, for the record - Thanks Kenny - You were my footballing idol as a child and why I support LFC, that will never change ! Sad day.

 

 

16 May 2012 21:03:09
with a new manager do you think they would want to and be able to keep maxi and kuyt I also think that if we do keep suarez (thats looking more and more unlikely which would really turn the fans against the owners and could not do too much good for the new manager either) we need someone like meireles when we had him. watching a couple of games he linked up with suarez so well and they seemed to just create opportunities and usually goals. is Gaston Ramires the answer, but I think that we should sign him whatever but need to sort out the manager situation as we need to get moving in the transfer market!! eds?

 

 

16 May 2012 21:06:45
I feel for Kenny as it may have come together but let's not let our heart's rule our head's. 8th is NOT good enough. Let's just hope the owners act more swiftly in appointing a new manager than they have done with the DoF role!

Big respect to Kenny and a massive thanks

YNWA

All I can say is, these owners are talking the talk.
But, next year, they had BETTER be walking the walk.
Stadium, new management set up, players.
If it's instant results they want, so do I !
The Real KB

Im sure AVB will do much better next year

With that squad, it was good enough.

The cost between coming 8 and 5 is £3million pounds. The result is the same. We are in Europe. The squad team had no hope in hell making it into the champions league spot.

We don't have the star players to mount that kind of raid. Tottenham have better players than us, chelsea, man city, utd. its a fact we would finsih behind them.

If the result was to get into europa league and win a Cup. Then Kenny has been very successful. Plus he went to the FA cup final.

I think he got it totally wrong at the FA final, we should gone out and lost 5 - 4 instead of 2-1. All out attack on chelsea. What did we really have to lose. we went their as under-dogs

If FSG wanted Champions league football, they could of bought Sergio Aguero instead of Carroll in Jan 2011. This has nothing to do with Kenny and more to do with FSG. Investment then would have seen us in europe this season and recruitment of better players in the summer. But they decided not to gamble on quality and went for cheap wages.

Really Kenny played a losing hand of poker. Even when he managed to get the team playing well. He had his best players sold instead of left at the club.

Raul Meireles and Aquilani, if we wanted to make an go at champions league spot. We needed a bigger squad.

 

 

16 May 2012 21:02:22
Hey all!
I'd perfere one of these 3 manegers:
AVB
Jürgen Klopp
Bielsa

And hell NO to Rafa, just my thought, pls reply :)

regards Luka

Out of those 3 id have to go with avb, klopp and biesla havnt got a word of english... id much rather benitez or martinez

Diddnt AVB get sacked from Chelsea due to poor performance and poor position. Plus the fact he lost the dressing room.

But You say he's goodenough for Liverpool. Guess you must have treat knowledge and extraordinary faith.

You must be right!.
Sl

Klopp, Diego Simone ( At. Madrid )

 

 

16 May 2012 20:58:38
Scouser outside Anfield "Problem with Kenny is you should never go back" Reporter:"Who would you have now?" "Rafa" You couldn't make it up

Unbelievable....Id have Souness..

 

 

16 May 2012 20:58:23
Just wanted to get an idea of whopeople want as are manager. Realisticly.
Mines Rafa

Bilverstone

 

 

16 May 2012 20:56:33
personally, i'd like to see brendan rodgers(even though i HATE swansea) or roberto di matteo. Both excellent managers who will help us play good football! I feel if any of these managers come, we will be back to our winning selfs soon enough(aslong as we make good signings! Maybe we should make an enquiry alonso? to see if he'd like a return! Dex the red :)

Micheal Bradley

 

 

16 May 2012 20:56:31
Again from a neutral point of view (sorry lads but not much going on, on the newcastle site)

I think Dalglish wasn't far from turning it around....a goal scorer was the main thing you needed, 34 shots off the woodwork (never mind the sitters missed) a good finisher would have maybe fired you to 4/5th spot in my opinion.

But at least they have made an early decision to let him go....they will already have targets surely. If league form was the reason for sacking then they will have been planning for 2/3 months.

I think you need a bigger manager than martinez and the likes of him.

I know Liverpool havent won the league for a long time but with the history you can still attract some top players (not the very top as they need champs league and silly wages) but still you can get champs league quality players in.

I think you need to look at Martin O'Neil as the only british option. Then look abroad...it helps bring good players in from the country the manager is from.

I know it is unlikely but offer Guardiola a contract....probably wont take it but if he wants to try a different challenge he might take it.

Pep is a football man.....he will know the history the club has and I think he would love to be seen as the man who brings back the league after such a long absence.

ToonFan

Should of sacked carroll

Thanks toonfan.

I think any good manager would love to win the league with Liverpool. The history and a 20 year gap makes it ideal for someone to say " I did that!" if he wins the league.

Dublad

 

 

16 May 2012 20:56:18
to king kenny we bid you farewell and thankyou!

who will replace kenny? it will depend on weather his sacking was planned or was rather spur of the moment!
i think it was planned with FSG well aware of who is available, capable and who want's the role, a real big name maybe cappello? mourinio? only time will tell!
i just hope its all in the best interests of liverpool fc.

 

 

16 May 2012 20:55:44
According to FM i know i know but had to see Rafa 1st choice then Luois van gaal then Laudrup then Quique FLores

 

 

16 May 2012 20:55:42
Im probably gonna get stick but I want AVB as our new manager, yes he failed at Chelsea but that was because there was unrest in the squad, he did win 3 trophies in 1 season at Porto and possibly could attract the likes of Hulk and Moutinho.

Martinez is good but not ready for a club like LFC at the moment.

What do u think eds? {Ed001's Note - no thank you.}

And you think there will be no unrest now at lfc in the squad now king kennys been sacked??

 

 

16 May 2012 20:55:21
well, that's the end of that then. I was under the impression Kenny wasnt first choice when originally hired anyway, but the view was that he would be the one who could come in and stablize a club in crisis. On that basis, it's job done. League form, while poor on many occasions, saw the woodwork prevent around 30 goals and somehow goalkeepers played the games of their lives at Anfield this season. Anyway, now it is time to move on and find a manager who can a) manage in Europe - i understand its only Europa Cup, but it is still European football and we cannot recruit a manager who has no experience in Europe; b) someone who really can get the best out of players; c) a manager who can tactically get the better of other managers/teams and; d) someone who can gel with the media. I've never seen so much vitriol fired across the Liverpool FC bow by journalists as they did this year.
FSG are in it to win it, be assured of that. I just hope that they don't think that they have to follow their player policy with a management hire that mirrors it. However, for a potential manager for the club, LFC is probably one of the toughest gigs out there right now given the situation over the last 3 years. It's going to be a tough ask for anyone other than the top 10-15 managers in Europe and really, are we in a good position to attract anyone in that band?
Finally, I've got it on good authority that Suarez will be sold this summer.
Here's hoping.......
YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 20:55:05
Hi guys and gals, as a lfc fan i cant see why people would be upset if suarez was to leave.

he has been nothing but touble and his attitude is terrible! we dont need players like that at our club and FSG have taken control of the situation.

I do believe that KK would have backed him to hell and back and this was part of KK's downfall in the end.

Whoever is our next manager, whether AVB or Martinez, just be an Lfc fan and do what we do best!

Lfc Is What We Stand For!

Harley

Well considering hes probably going to be one of the top 5 players in the world in the next couple of years...

Genius players are always 'difficult'/ Always have been, always will be.

I don't think we're in the position to pick and choose what world class players we have at the team; whatever your opinion on Suarez attitude etc, he's a winner and very difficult to attract a player of similar or better quality to replace him in our current position.

TheRed

 

 

16 May 2012 20:53:59
i have just read that vincenzo Montella is now favourite for the Roma job , AVB still available then !!
Is this good or bad i really cannot decide may given time he will be a great manager that he is supposed to be ??

redfred

 

 

16 May 2012 20:53:13
Rafa still lives local. He goes out his way to walk his dog by lfc gates.lol

Thats a hell of a walk from the wirral

TC YNWA {Ed003's Note - lol}

It's quite a walk from Caldy to Anfield

 

 

16 May 2012 20:52:21
Eds and fellow reds. Just make take on things today. I am
Not at all suprised to see kk go, and have never been of the opinion that he would step aside easily. After all he regretted leaving the last time and certanly hasn't been sounding like he was willing to accept his failures this season. Now I know everyone will say that the season was a good one, after all we did win the cup and get to the final of the FA cup but our league form was just not right. I think this alone would have kept kenny in by the skin of his teeth but add to the league form the handing of the Suarez case, Kennys truly awful press conferences and interviews and his buys which just havent cut the mustard, it's easy to see why he has gone.
I am a Liverpool fan and honestly think that Fsg are showing they are winners and won't accept under performing. Everyone is already slating Martinez yet we don't even know he has been spoken to yet. He is a good manager who plays good football on a very limited budget.
My choice would be AVB and honestly believe he would do the business. But we need to get behind who ever is given the job.
I think some of the players should also be fearful now, Fsg are not ones to hide and shy away from wielding the axe as we now know.
Eds just one question, do you know if kk will
Now get compo of do you recon something would have been included in the contract to prevent yet more payouts.
Cheers and good job, especially on days like this.

Andy the red. {Ed001's Note - he will get some pay off.}

 

 

16 May 2012 20:47:23
Where's Michael Easterbrook when you need him?

Davmor

 

 

16 May 2012 20:47:09
It will be Marcelo Bielsa, not Martinez or Benitez. The Dutch and German coaches are a good outside bet. FSG want a break with the past.

Marcelo Bielsa looked like a vampire

Eds is it correct that Bielsa contract is up soon ? {Ed001's Note - he is meant to have a one year rolling contract, I believe.}

 

 

16 May 2012 20:43:45
i personally feel Dalglish should have been given another year, in my opinion he was basically doing what avb was doing at chelsea in scrapping the short term for the long term and i firmly believe hendo, downing carrol and enrique will show their value. adam is surely a squad member and if they sell suarez, well, that would be a travesty in my eyes. we should deffo keep him and get a flair player like silva. I will be behind the new manager whoever it is like i was with benitez, hodgson, kk and everyone else thats been, i just hope and pray we get ack to where we belong. the past is where we were made, the now is who we are and the future is ours to make.
huddz red

I think he should of been allowed to take us to the First division. Then he could of won the first division and said this is like old times.

No time to weast

 

 

16 May 2012 20:43:23
Just wondered if anyone knew of any rumours with the balance of personalities within the squad?

I'm thinking to potentially AVB as the next manager and would he suffer a similar fate to that at Chelski?

 

 

16 May 2012 20:37:28
Ed has KD left the club all together or does he still have some sort of role?
Personally i don't like how they sacked him and think they should have allowed him say he was stepping down, obviously its irrelevant but just an opinion,
Regards,
J-lk {Ed001's Note - as of now, he is gone completely, but there is nothing to stop him taking up another role.}

 

 

16 May 2012 20:36:36
Terrible decision from FSG. To bring in someone like Martinez will be a disaster. He does not know how to manage big players or indeed a big club.

All they want is a yes man and tgat is not what I want. I want a manager to manage the club not some boardroom Yanks. If they sell Suarez that will be the end of them, watch the Anfield crowd. It will be bye bye FSG.

I will bet gutted if we lose suarez. he is our best player. And will no doubt be one of the best creative attacking players in the world very shortly. Hes the kind of player that we all want to buy but then everyone says get realistic we cant attract top players like that. We cannot get rid of him.

 

 

16 May 2012 20:36:00
Eds, are they still filming that Fox Documentary?

JanMolbyFan
{Ed001's Note - they should be.}

No thats david attenborough

B hell. What is it, a re-make of The Titanic !
The Real KB

Thats why they sacked Kenny makes good TV.... think on the revenue...

That is looking like an ill advised decision...
all our laundry will be in public view once again.

Richards

 

 

16 May 2012 20:34:29
Just a thought..
After Benitez sacking then the only candidate with an impressive CV who applies for the job was Hodgson!.

Welcome to liverpool mr S Kean

 

 

16 May 2012 20:20:26
Why would we want AVB? He did nothing at Chelski. Raffa is defo the man we need and I reckon he will jump at the chance to finish what he started.

Markdxb

Another 6 years and loads of duds with no league then :(

He has a call name

He was hardly given a fair crack of the whip at chelsea to many ego,s there fat frank and drogba and terry whingeing to roman he is a good manager tho

He finished it 3 years in his 6...

 

 

16 May 2012 20:20:17
please reply with your ideal manager

Klopp or low

Rafa for me, loves the club (second only to King Kenny) and has the tactical knowledge to deliver, if properly backed. Guaranteed to also get under the skin of Slur Alex - which always gets my vote.

Mike Bassett!
At least he will bring Benson & Hedges with him.
Sl

Alan Pardew

Klopp .

Diego Simone The At. Madrid manager

AVB for me, he just had issues with other ego'd players at Chelsea.

Brendan rogers

Pep with Tixixi DoF

Martin O Neil

or

Brendan Rodgers


LTP

Jesus Christ, because we'd get away with 12 men on the pitch.

Redjinal

Laudrup or de boer. In a dream world, mourinho or guardiola. Most important is a good DOF

Kenny dalglish

Bill Shankly

Kenny... He's the only one that is good enough and willing to take the job

Avb or biesla

Joshlavdp

Laudrup, or if not him Benitez. Definately not Martinez or Kean or any of the other stupid names. They wouldn't last 5 minutes.

Kenny Dalglish.

Matt S- YNWA

Jurgen Klopp - This guy would make us champions in two years! Plays very attractive, pass and move football on the floor, great man manager and is very tactically astute!

I think Rafa would do a great job and was dismissed for one bad season in the league! He won't return though!

AVB was flying in the first few months at Chelski, it was simply player power that done him!

Rodgers if people don't remember took over a built pass and move football side started by the one and only Roberto Martinez...I don't think either of these two are what we need if the owners want success within one or two seasons. Don't knock them from it though...look at what Di Matteo has done and he was sacked from the west brom post do to their poor position down the bottom of the league!

You have your steady eddy managers as I like to call them...Hodgson...Bruce....Hughes etc!! You then have Lambert...Rodgers...Martinez and Di Matteo who are young managers with that little something that has very low budget poor teams trying to play the correct type of football and winning games that way!! These guys need a big club and time at it to show what they can install.

For me FSG will look to success from Europe and there are some fine candidates out there, but are they available!!

Jon LFC

 

 

16 May 2012 20:20:13
I can't see fsg bringing in anybody other than rafa, I just can't see them being able to bring in another manager of a higher quality who is 1)remotely available and 2) interested in the job, nobody currently in the prem is good enough, avb not an option, not good enough for Chelsea not good enough for us, personally I'd love to see Joachim Lowe here straight after the euros or even fdb, but I can gaurentee it will be rafa he's the only option for fsg.
Jaydee ynwa

 

 

16 May 2012 20:19:27
macca
do you not feel that benitez would be takin a step backwards? obviously we took kenny back but we were in turmoil then and i for one knew it wouldnt be a long term thing, he was the man that the new owners could garuntee on lifting the fans. benitez made some terrible signings, wanted complete control and didnt he scrap our reserves...? i realy wouldnt want that, esp with the likes of suso,sterling,coady and ibe coming through!
harry h

Rafa brought all of those bar Ibe into Liverpool.

 

 

16 May 2012 20:19:19
Great decision , i hope all those that called for his head are happy now.

I have supported this club for 34 years and loved talking to LFC supporters about football so knowledgeable and so passionate but now we have the new generation of FM and Fifa players who think that managing LFC to a title can be done in 1 season .

For all LFC supporters that criticise chelsea fans when AVB got sacked take a bow we have an awful record of sacking managers .

The season was not that great and some poor decisions regarding Saurez but we entered 3 comp finished 8th,1st and 2nd .The league has evaded us but we gave Rafa 6 years on the back of winning the CL (not his team that won it or tactics) and played awful awful football.KK comes in and first time in a long long time i enjoyed watching us play , pass and move football comes with a price that players have to take more time to adapt longer as it is not the english way.

Personally i want to say thank you to KK for for he has done for our club and i hope we do not regret this decision .for me he will always be a legend and gentleman .


With regards to who we get in to replace him , if rafa comes back please please play the Valencia brand of his game not that dire poor football.If Martinez or rodgers comes give them time to develop their team as the new wave of LFC football expect to win it all.Get real we are not good enough and we are not a top 4 side we are a team that has history and some of the worlds best fans.

As for signing all the best players on the planet like Man city lets do it the LFC way and give these youngsters a chance to develop and support them .

Moroccan Red

I would like to see rogers coming and be given a couple years min to get us playing nice football

UNCLE ZAINY BEAR agrees with ur post.

 

 

16 May 2012 20:40:15
I have to be honest im not suprised Kenny has been sacked, Worst season in 52 years, 8th place, Everton finished above us, 6 home wins, We beat a championship team on penos afetr 120 minutes, Thats nothing to brag about, All in all its been a horrible season and Dalglish has wasted over 100m on carroll, downing, adam, henderson and coates. He had to go, sad but true, no man is bigger than our club

Another Chelsea fan!.

Worst league finish in 52 years, not worst season

Liverpool strgling last 2/3 month and kenny yet find a good answer of it so as a owner ofcorse they have valid reason for worried

 

 

16 May 2012 20:39:46
least with a new manager coming in and the owners sacking king kenny they will have money to spend as the owners said if was sacked due to league position only way to get better is better players :-)

John

 

 

16 May 2012 20:39:14
There is a lot of "buzz" going aroud this site, twitter and other sites that the Suarez / Evra affair is a major contributing factor in the decision to let Kenny go and that Luis will duly follow suit.

However; surely if FSG felt so strongly about this that they are willing to make several people unemployed (I blame the Tories for these ridiculous unemployment statistics) over it then they would have intervened with his selection for the duration of the season?

Throughout the whole debacle Luis maintained that he was innocent; and was convicted on the loosest of possible cases. Should someone admit guilt and be driven from his home / club on the back of this? Did Barry George just get his head down and serve his life sentence despite his questionable conviction?

KK (still King) had to go for the poor results; if the club wish to make a statement over events from the previous year (despite everyone wanting to move on) then I would question who runs the club: FSG or the sponsors.

Well that do play a part. Kenny himself said that if that happen again then he will treat the things difrently.

Personalyy i have waited to see how long it wud take for someone to add the 2+2 and ur spot on i personally thought we had got owners that understood the club but as uve pointed out all they are is just a mere puppet on a string new era for football when people remote from the actual club have called the shots(i.e the sponsors) i personally beleive this is a travesty and if we carry on this way we are going to lose our identy as the greatest club ever on earth

I completely understand what you are saying but another thing you have to look at is, we are in an era now where you have look appealing to people through the global media because we can no longer just rely on the loyal fans from the UK to keep our club afloat. We need to attract fans globally and having another PR disaster like the Suarez incident could harm this. I, by any means, do not want Suarez to go but I can see the reasoning behind it if he does.

N.I. Red

 

 

16 May 2012 20:38:51
I have heard the name of jurgen klopp being thrown into the ring, one thing I would like to day is that his Dortmund team have won the bundlesliga two years in a row, qualified for the champions league and demolished bayern in the past two seasons. Why would klopp leave them to join us?
Rodgers
Bielsa
Rafa
And the obvious but never happen, pep guardiola
Jbplfc

 

 

16 May 2012 20:33:42
Hi Eds

Assuming that Suarez will be sold(which I think is ludicrous) can you honestly see us getting a player of his quality to replace him? Can't see too many quality players being too excited about playing along side Adam, Spearing and Downing etc. And if by some miracle we could manage to get a player of that quality to come in, surely it would be much better to add him to the squad along with Suarez and build on the few world class players we have?

TheRed {Ed001's Note - but Suarez let the club down badly, can we risk it happening again?}

Wait un till the 2012 is over, downing is going to get his freak on

The players of his quality are the ones that we cannot attract so no they will not be able to replace him

Suarez best player we have

I'd risk it rather than settle for mid-table mediocrity, there's only so long the club's history can have any weight in attracting players. Suarez is a winner, and we're not in a position to pick and choose which world class players we want. If needs be, use him to get back on top then ditch him but I hope he stays or everything Kenny has pretty much sacrificed to back him up would be for nothing.

TheRed {Ed016's Note - What Suarez did or did not do, it does not matter. It caused world wide negative press. When he was signed he came with a bad PR record, the world cup controversy and the biting incident in Ajax. Brilliant and a world class player YES! total club liability YES! and in Finance selling something you bought for 23 million for around 35-40 million is good business. Considering he is a liability and they will make profit, he will go. It is unfortunate. Remember, we are not Chelsea, City or Real Madrid. We can not just conjure up money, steps like selling Suarez is how we can catch to City and Chelsea it just takes a lot longer to do it, and making a 17 million pound profit is alright by the owners. Trust them. I know it is hard to see. But living over in North America I saw what they did to catch up to the New York Yankees. To be able to compete week in and week out. It all feels very familiar to what is happening at Anfield right now. Putting business aside. Personally I am gutted that he will leave( it is not 100% but I am pretty sure), he is a top class player and I truly believe a very good lad.)

But ed1 if we sell suarez do you think we can replace him because his wages are peanuts compare to others and I don't trust FSG. Coz nowdays wages play big part and they want succes with mediocore players which will not happen any manager from now will have big boots to fill our fans expectations are sky high and any manager comming in will be in kenny,s shadow
sorry for spelling {Ed001's Note - of course we can replace a striker who can't score!}

 

 

16 May 2012 20:32:28
Can't help thinking that if fsg are the astute businessmen we believe them to be, they have already lined up a dof and manager. Surely they would not leave the club without a leader with the transfer window upon us.
They want a manager with a track record of winning so forget the Martinez and pardew rubbish in the papers.

 

 

16 May 2012 20:31:49
Macca .....why Benitez I mean his transfers weren't great where they ?? And he won champions league with houllier signings .......cheers Dave good work btw..

Yea cos alonso and garcia, switching carragher to centre back never helped

 

 

16 May 2012 20:31:12
Eds please reassure me you can't see Martinez or Rodgers getting the job. I'll be absolutely gutted if we've sacked kenny in favour of one of those two.

Cheers, JD {Ed001's Note - I don't think it will be either of those two.}

Nice one cheers Ed that makes me feel a bit better. Step backwards if either of them got it for me. Martinez I can see at villa but not us.

 

 

16 May 2012 20:30:42
I really don't think it will happen, but has anyone mentioned the possibility of Stevie Nicol coming in? I believe he has a history with FSG and did a really good job over in the states. Not sure success in the US counts but any thoughts Ed's?

Mark the Selby Red {Ed001's Note - he plays terrible football, Hodgson-like.}

Nicol? or the americans ed? {Ed001's Note - Nicol. His Rev side were appalling to watch. If he could manage like he could drink, then he would be a world beater!}

 

 

16 May 2012 20:30:32
Wouldent mind having Benitez back, he made some great signings Torres agger alonso skertal Garcia reina. He made some bad 1s 2 but all managers do. Or Martinez would also b good, he plays amazing football. Wat u think ed also who would u want in charge next season. YNWA DW {Ed001's Note - neither of those 2 that's for sure!}

 

 

16 May 2012 20:30:25
Hate to repeat this again:...... but in regards to kk departure...how will this effect suarez departure?
More of a chance now or less??
Mrjimmy

 

 

16 May 2012 20:30:02
jose would be a good candidate but i reckon he's holding out for the Mad Jock's job - whenever that becomes vacant

 

 

16 May 2012 20:34:59
I dont see why martinez would be such a bad appointment, he wants to manage to do things the right way.

and to people saying 'oh his not proven' and 'he nearly got relegated with wigan'

well who exactly was arsene wenger before arsenal took him? I will tell you who he was, a manager who got relegated with monaco!

 

 

16 May 2012 20:27:26
I feel bad for KK but can't blame FSG for not wanting to give him the financial backing we sorely need after a terrible transfer policy this year.
Just hoping this decision means they are willing to give that backing to someone as out squad this year was the worst we have had in recent memory.
Also hope FSG are not as naive as some believe and don't for Martinez. Never been above 10th in the leauge, no european pedigre and never managed a team he has not played for. His name only seems to be there because of the hype surrounding Wigan staying up.
Personally I believe a return for Rafa could be on the cards, No compensation and still adored by many fans which would help cool the anger some feel about KK's sacking.
It can't get much worse!

 

 

16 May 2012 20:26:19
Really sad, yet not that surprised to see The King go. He'll always be an icon of LFC and so glad he won more silverware to add to everything else he's done for the club.

I really do believe this next appointment is gonna be a massive milestone in the clubs history. In my personal opinion, with the fact in the last 2 seasons we've been nowhere near CL qualification, this summers ability to recruit the quality of players we need, is down to 2 things.

1. The clubs pulling power as a global brand
2. The pulling power of the Manager

The first point is where our strength lies, we're still a massive name with great appeal across the world, which gives us an edge over other teams. However, if FSG decide to go for a 'lesser' known name e.g. Martinez, Rodgers etc. do you think it will detract from the chances of signing so called bigger players than we would with a Benitez, Capello or AVB at he helm?

Would love to know other opinions.

Thanks for everything KK!!

Mark the Selby Red

 

 

16 May 2012 20:24:50
Eds sky sports say that Steve clake has not left as well cheers psv

 

 

16 May 2012 20:22:01
Owners are deciding weather capello or AVB get the job.
Also look for a sly talk to Guardiola, which will be turned down as he will go to chelsea for 12mill a year.

 

 

16 May 2012 20:30:56
I had a cheeky score on AVB earlier at 16-1 now he is 4-1 and even 3-1 with some bookies..Do they know something??

No just people like you throwing money on him at 16/1 they are bricking it now lol

The bookies won't know anything, it's just that people are putting money on him so the bookies will shorten the odds so they don't have to pay as much money if it happens.

Badge

I threw a few bob on capello at 50/1 last week. Just sayin ;) {Ed016's Note - Carra is 50/1 also worth a quid or two)

 

 

16 May 2012 20:30:12
Kenny going is bad enough in my opinion, but the statement made by FSG frightened me to death, "We will now start to look for a replacement". Start to look for a replacement, this should be cut and dried and a manager ready to step in. We could now be in the same position as we were when Roy came in. We're turning into Newcastle, sacking manager after manager.

Sooty

Did you expect them to conduct a manager search during the season, while Kenny was manager? Glad you are not running the club.

 

 

16 May 2012 20:30:08
jurgen klopp is the Man we need.

get him to bring, subotic, hummels, gotze, kagawa and lewandowski with him!!

He would be the perfect choice, but why would he leave dortmund for us

Because some of there best player aren't getting new contracts ( same thing happened to rafa at Valencia) & the rest is history.

TheBA300

 

 

16 May 2012 20:29:59
Just want to say I'm gutted for Kenny. All he has done for not only the club but the city of Liverpool and to be treated this way is disguisting. I wish you and your family well Kenny. FSG you will destroy our club!

Without FSG we would have gone into administration..Get a grip...

 

 

16 May 2012 20:29:14
hi would welcome the opinion of all and the eds, but after watching these games put on the lfc site recently about kenny great games and 3 players that are either not there or not starting and they are maxi kuyt and meireles this was a big mistake to start playing henderson rather than meireles this is why he left what do you think?

 

 

16 May 2012 20:26:09
Seeing as everyone is chucking names in, I'm gonna put my reputation on the line and say ian holloway is the man for the job, our issue this year has been media and he diverts attention by relating everything to farming. Whats you opinion ed?

Kind regards

The southern red {Ed003's Note - I think he is a wonderful manager and motivator but doubt he would be considered }

He buy every fan a free pint if they win. although that doesn't happen that often. so its special.

I think FSG will love appointing Ian Holloway. They will not pay their next manager more than £500k a year to do the job.

Alex Fergi Is on £6m a year and Wenger is on £7m. So you can see what they are trying to do with their next appointment. EG save a small fortune in wages. We are going to become such a mick-mouse club now.

 

 

16 May 2012 20:22:52
Now Steve Clarke's gone too; resigned in a show of solidarity with KK. At least somebody at the club, apart from KK, has shown some integrity today. I feel like the heart of my club has been ripped out.

I will always support Liverpool FC because no individual is bigger than the club but things will never be the same .

Steve Clarke' was the only good thing about that football club. He shouldnt have resigned and should have been sacked. They had to pay out the other way round.

Steve clarke has not resigned he is still very much apart of liverpool at least for the time being lets just hope he stays

BBC are still reporting that Clarke has resigned and I usually find them pretty accurate.

 

 

16 May 2012 20:22:00
I'll call it now.

Rafa to be the Manager.

Suarez to be [reluctantly] sold.

Rafa (bless his cotton socks) will bring in two forwards, one will be just shy of the Suarez-vibe, and the other will just stick them in when given the chance.

Not /really/ a rumour, but I'll call it now as a guess.

Rafa will probably get rid of a few faces too.


Redheart.

Hmm ok

I'll say it, Rafa is more concerned with his Liverpool Properties business than with management. Plus he is sooo picky and expensive that no one will give him the time, money and wages that he wants.

 

 

16 May 2012 20:18:42
Please no to AVB...

Doesn't tick any box for me

The owl

Terry Connor - Wolves is looking for another management role in premiership.

American soccer coach bob bradley

 

 

16 May 2012 20:17:50
The approach of FSG can be divided into 4 options:
1. The up and coming - eg. Martinez, Lambert etc...obvious ? Is whether they know how more than save a team from relegation, danger of Hodgson, part 2.
2. European pedigree - Emery, Klopp etc...? Here is lack of Premier league experience and possible language issue but recognised tactical insights.
3. The superstar option - unlikely but is there a way that FSG can persuade Mourinho or Guardiola..? Very doubtful, I agree.
4. The Single name option - Rafa. Love of club, proven tactical knowledge etc but ? Over returning here, part 2, plus prickliness with media.

For me, the one who is being mentioned by some and part ticks some boxes but without excelling in any is AVB - and it's that lack of being able to fully tick any box that makes me dubious about him and probably my least favoured option.

Any thoughts eds?

REdFred

Why sack Kenny Now? it makes no sense. Why not sack him after the Euro's

When alot of top class managers lose their jobs. The americans could had a sea of new people to choose from.

Even Roy Hodgson would be looking for work in Sept {Ed001's Note - and then there would be no time to prepare for next season, that would make even less sense!}

 

 

16 May 2012 20:17:45
Really hope we dont sell suarez we need to keep 1 of the few world class players we have need to strenghtin the squad not sell 1 of our best

Me too lets hope the owners see that too

One of the few.....
who are the others..
El Rey ha muerto. Larga vida al Rey!

I know wat u mean pal gerrard aint the player he use to be, And out of the squad suarez is the only one who can make something out of nothing.

ACHILLES.

 

 

16 May 2012 20:17:35
I don't think anyone knows what's going to happen next.....including the owners. A very sad LFC fan
TC

I think the owners know exactly what they are doing, i personally think the good times are just around the corner
jaydee ynwa

 

 

16 May 2012 20:08:46
The King has been my hero for as long as I can remember and I will never say a bad word against him. He was the best UK player I ever saw and was a great manager.

The has done more for our club than everyone reading this put together and is class. His words after today's announcement prove that. Mr Dalglish 'it has been an honour' to have you associated with our club since 1977.

If Liverpool go on to win the premiership in the next few years then I'm sure no one will be happier than Kenny. FSG now have their biggest decision since taking over. Replacing Roy was fairly obvious as was Kenny as a replacement. This season's league performances made it easy for the owners to justify acting now.

I guess the question is do we need a manager with PL experience or do we need a manager who can attract players to the club?

Thanks Kenny


Crazy Horse

Preferably both?

He is Scottish. lol

 

 

16 May 2012 20:06:38
Eds why are people saying martinez is going to get the job they are to many world class manager without a job nw martinez as not prove that much to me and we liverpool fans do want him owners must knw that {Ed001's Note - because he is the latest media darling.}

If martinez is being thought about could i put myself forward i av a pretty good cv on footie manager

Martinez turned down the Aston Villa job last year and showed total support toward wigan and his players at wigan. So why would he leave if the owners have promised him new

 

 

16 May 2012 20:13:15
just hope our owners dont go after Klinsmann, does he still reside in the US, would b bad newz for us if it was him they are lookin to, to move us forward on the pitch

 

 

16 May 2012 20:12:48
Ed's Is Kevin Keen still with us or has he walked like clarke?

Red Grand

Is tom warner sitting in a empty office building looking more people to sack. cazy tom

 

 

16 May 2012 20:11:08
Can anybody tell me why mourinho is not being considered ?? If you want to win he is the manager to have !!!

Ever heard of Real Madrid? He works there.

Because he won't leave real madrid for liverpool

Why would he come to liverpool dont get me wrong would love him at anfield but just cant see it myself

I may be wrong, but it might have something to do with the fact he's manager of the biggest club in the world, and he is in the middle of a contract...

 

 

16 May 2012 20:10:58
Hi ed's I'm guessing you probably won't know this but how long do you think fsg will take to appoint a new manager... Apologise if that is a silly question

Kind regards

The southern red

 

 

16 May 2012 20:10:47
How long will it take until a replacement is found.

After Euro's?

 

 

16 May 2012 20:00:34
Who do you want as a new manager? {Ed016's Note - I will give it a go)

It's only a 9 month job ed. no security whatsoever!

 

 

16 May 2012 19:58:32
Ibet the anfield tea lady is flying round that kitchen to save her job...

dmedly

 

 

16 May 2012 19:58:26
My speech to become the next Liverpool manager...

The word 'unlucky' is banned!

 

 

16 May 2012 19:57:19
Look at the money Kenny has spent please! FSG are a business and I would certainly want a better return on my money than 8th in Prem. Really big call now for new manager, expectations and competition will be tough next season. You know all sides above us bar EFC will spend some money!

His net spend wasn't that bad. If Fsg thinks the next managers net spend will be lower they are either living in cloud cukoo land or won't spend at all
Bobbinred

 

 

16 May 2012 20:05:38
ian ayre just spoke on sky about what happened with kenny and whats happening in the future, has he gone or not?

If he's speaking on tv it would be logical to assume he hasn't just been sacked

Why hasn't someone Sacked Ian Ayres

 

 

16 May 2012 20:05:35
sly sports saying steve clarke is still at the club and ian ayre quoting that he isnt going anywhere! my head hurts from all of this haha! scousedel

 

 

16 May 2012 20:04:21
what these american doing to our club??
the first set destroyed our club now the new ones will do the same? in 6 years kk brought a trophy and reach a final no he is sacked?? ok the guys did not performed well, but a good example is andy, he was in great form at the end of season thats why he is in england squad. downig he was not godd all season but times he was good. if they bring back rafa i think our club will be buried. thank god he won trophies at the beginning but that was houiller(spelling) work. rafa work was how it end up before he was sacked. what these foolish american owners need to do is to sell the club now. they cannot even call football , football but they call it soccer. can any one tell me how americans call there football , football> i think they should call it hand ball
my choice is for a establish english coach to be liverpool manager or some upcoming english manager. we need a english coach.
trini red

They are doing the right thing.

An english coach is the last thing we need

I agree with ur post, but disagree with the bit where u say we need an english coach. there are no english coaches up to the anfield job.
UNCLE ZAINY BEAR.

 

 

16 May 2012 20:03:51
Eds, just wondering your opinion on Diego Simeone as a possible manager option.

Correct me if I'm wrong but he has won the Argentinian league with two different teams and this year as we all know took Athletico Madrid to the Europa cup final and won against a very good Bilbao.

Seems like a possible option that not many people have thaught of. He's pretty young and I think could attract some decent players.

Your opinions much appreciated.

Tom in Wolves. {Ed001's Note - he does consider himself a disciple of Bielsa, so I would consider him a decent choice.}

 

 

16 May 2012 20:03:41
if the owners are trying to justify the sacking of dalglish saying 'lack of ambition' why sell suarez who is our best player?

 

 

16 May 2012 20:02:56
ian ayre is on tv now . who said he was sacked too

 

 

16 May 2012 19:55:40
Gutted!!

For me it shows how the new generation of football fans are now. Instant success or they want your head. plus they don't seem to have any understanding of money. chuck 20 mil on this player and 30 on that. I just wonder how many will be calling for the new manager to be lynched when he doesn't bring instant success.

I for hope no martinez and would like experience. but who know what will happen. what i do know is i will be in the kop next season like i have for years cheering and singing my reds on.

An extremely gutted Red Rout!!

A 8th spot is far but good enough. Especially if you have used 100 m £

I would like to point out that not all of us "new generation" fans as you call us are like that so please dont tar us all with the same brush. i might not be old enough to remember the good old days under dalglish i werent even born but i and plenty of others respected the man for past achievements and stories we have heard from you older generation and dont be niave enough to think its only young fans who have slated kk which btw im not one of i find it tasteless and disrespectful to talk anout a man of kk stature and loyality in that way

The difference is kenny did spend 20m on this player and 35m on another and so on and so on, the fact of the matter the owners haven't seen any or enough improvement for the backing kenny has received, which many of the fans agree

 

 

16 May 2012 19:54:53
ed is there any truth to supports rallying round and refusing to buy the new liverpool shirt because of daglish getting axed and clarke resigning ??
i myself think he should have been given 1 more season and thats all . there is a danger of us becoming a chelsea and look at man city
Roberto Mancini joined 2009 and as won 2011 FA Cup
2011–12 Premier League ??
foolish greedy people with to much money {Ed001's Note - how would I know if people aren't buying the shirt because of that? No one I know is not buying one because of Dalglish.}

 

 

16 May 2012 19:51:49
Thanks Kenny, a true LFC legend through and through. Some players have let him down badly, especially Suarez. Then I think the whole episode was handled poorly and we have not recovered from it. Unfortunately it damaged the 'brand' of LFC and those responsible have paid with their jobs, hence I expect next will be Suarez himself. The next manager really needs to get a goalscorer or two and they have to be instantly successful. A very big gamble by FSG. Dein looks likely to come in and if that happens I hope he still has all his contacts to attract a top manager like Van Gaal, who has a top CV and not a 'hopeful' in Martinez. If they want the best they need to go and get it and spend some dollar, otherwise it could be painful next season as well.

YNWA Evo

 

 

16 May 2012 19:51:47
why are people suggesting kenny was in the wrong for the way he handled the suarez/evra affair? he was defending his player who was no doubt in the wrong but he was defending him as the press were only interested in slating suarez yet terry seemed to be getting away with his blatent offence so i for one commend kenny for defending his players something we all should be doing

I agree with you here. Any coach would stand with their player and I for one really hope we can keep Suarez.

Red Rat

Damiem And Kuyt messed that whole thing up. Kenny should of said "i didn't see it". . we will look at it after the game.

Then left it at that, The ref wouldn't of known what was going on.

Couldnt agree more, for Kenny sticking up for Suarez and he has been punished and then some, lesser men would have crumbled

 

 

16 May 2012 19:47:33
so mr.devil (fergie-son) has succeeded in his plans after all! he knew kenny is only one who could have saved us! now kenny s sacked and suarez will be gone too...so we ll sell our best palyer and we already have sacked one of the most successful managers
absolutely seriously sad and angry

Totally agree with you mate. I reckon Fergie's 'stunt' has a lot to do with all this.

Perhaps Fergie is FSG's advisor

 

 

16 May 2012 19:47:12
I am probably gonna get slated for this but every one hating on roberto martinez saying he is not a good enough manager does not have the experience but correct me if I am wrong but all you begging for Pep Guardiola well how much management experience did pep Guardiola have before taking over at the great barca eeeerrrr the barca B team give Martinez a break if is named manager back him please. Crying about it gives the media ammo to put pressure on our manager and team then they play bad and we moan more viscious circle guys.

Alfiedean.

We should also invite Ian Holloway along. I hear he is willing to buy all the fans a pint if they win on match days. lol {Ed003's Note - Really ? Damn he must owe me a dozen kegs }

I wont back him never

Pep's a coach not a manager. Pep doesn't buy n sell players and it's arguable that he picks formations.
This is how Barcelona work and that's why Rijkaard was successful too.
Notice the same patterns between the two.
Rijkaard hasn't been successful as a manager as he was as a coach.
Gauriola is a great coach but he isn't really a manager.

 

 

16 May 2012 19:47:05
correct me if im wrong edd! is this the worst season in 50 years , fewest goals n only 6 wins at home, plus last 2 windows the biggest outlay on spending in the history of lfc???
5gold stars {Ed001's Note - never heard of inflation?}

Blaming inflation on LFC's simply shocking spending, really? I mean, really? Henderson for 20m, well that's just inflation lads. By that logic a back up goalkeeper is probably worth spending £15m on.

Ye inflated villa sunderland pockets no end!! no room for sentimeant(spelling) in football, facts are facts, he pay well above the odds on henderson carroll downing, and as a result for that quality of player resulted in 37 points of top n 16 of relegation, fair enuf carling cup n fa cup runs were ok ( cardif exeter oldham brighton ), some noteable wins against everton city n chelsea plus the mancs but all in all it was a disastern we would be all looking for hodgson to be lynched
5gold stars {Ed001's Note - would you rather no money was spent and we kept Konchesky then? Give it a rest with the whining for one day!}

Yes but he got £50 million for a washed up Torres

 

 

16 May 2012 19:47:01
Some fans are delued if they think jose or pep are going to manage liverpool currently. Why would Jose consider leaving RM to manage a club 8th in the EPL and limits to what we spend? Also Pep is having a year out and again coming from possibily still the best team in the world as Barca to come to anfield and work with mediorce players on the whole.

I hear Roy Hodgson will be out of a job come the end of 2012's. so you never know. We may get England hero roy.

Pep is having a year out
I am sure Jose has said in the past that he will come back to EPL to take on a big project. Well they don't come much bigger than bringing future success to our club.
Whoever takes over GET BEHIND HIM and THE TEAM our support is going to be vital.
Thanks Kenny you are a legend and always will be
YNWA

Not that either of them will come, but if you wanted to be classed as the world's best manager, wouldn't you want to prove it by taking a team in our position and making them a force again?

I don't see why top managers would only consider team's that are already unbeatable

x

 

 

16 May 2012 19:43:35
I am fearful that the driving force behind our beloved club is now commercialism, pure and simple. 1 day ago, I didn't think Suarez would be sold, now I think he will. The perception of what the club is aboutnis now more important than what the club actually stands for, and means, to it's fans.

I am worried that decisions about the club are being made by our sponsors. Our players are no longer players, but walking advertising boards, seen by 100s of millions of people each year. Gone are the days of clubs using sponsors money to further the club, we are now being used by our sponsors to sell their goods, and what they say, goes.

If Suarez is sold, which after today's events I believe he will, I will be absolutely gutted. Not just because he is a gem, but because it will confirm that we are being pushed into something by people who know nothing about the game (or probably even worse - they don't even want to know about football, just quarterly stats from their marketing department). Crazy footballing decisions will be made due to some poll taken in the far east.

Have we become some cr*ppy, scumbag, self serving and self loving bank's advertising hoarding? If they don't like your face, that's it, you get sold? I really really hope not. Only time will tell. If Suarez is sold, the answer is yes. We are being run by a banks mighty dollar and profit margins. As I said, I will be gutted.

Nick.

I appreciate your point nick but we have been thinking your way since the 80s and we have been falling further and further behind as a result. It pains me some to say but money makes the world go round and we need a commercial approach to close the gap and press for honours it is the business the club is in mate nothing you can do about it!
TSB

Ok, Nick. If you are against commercialism in football you should be against buying players for money. You know that income and outcome has to be even in the end?

Honestly, if real madrid put in a big for Gerrard, they would sell gerrard, and treat him like s**te untill he walked out of the gates.

These owners don't have more than £5's to spend between them and their other commitments. Its always an attempt to pull the wool over the fans eyes with the bull stories leaked to the press.

These stories are nothing more than feelers for some of best players or exaggerated claims about how much they spent

They bought the club for £200million. Today the club is worth £370million. It was a basic land deal for them. Their has been no inwards investment in the team and every fan now's that. You can't keep buying a selling medium quality players and sale we've spent big.

Honestly that squad is paper fine, children are being put in when they not ready. We are acting like a west-ham and not a big club.

The carroll deal was between chelsea and Newcastle. So they spent nothing really.

Bable was sold to raise money for Luis Suarez + £10 from torres.

The summer saw new TV rights deal kick in and money from that was used to purchase players instead of paying interest on RBS.

Plus players where sold to balance the books, eg Raul Meireles to chelsea. Weakening the squad to balance the books.

Roy was sacked because home game bums on seats had hit an all time low. they would of kept him otherwise.

They are willing to rename anfield in naming rights eg. Heinz sponsors lfc at anfield.

Its a big joke. They messed up the our football shirt. They changed the liverpool shirt logo + colour.

We were the first club in the top league to "sell out" and put sponsors on our shirts - if I am not mistaken.

Since then, we have fallen behind other top clubs. If we don't move with the times, and at the very least try to catch up revenue-wise, we may as well pack it in and move to the Championship. Though no doubt that will be fine with some of the die-hards.

Their is no heart left in our club. At least Utd kept Scholes, Giggs, Whiskey nose. It wasn't always about the money.

 

 

16 May 2012 19:42:19
Hey Eds,
Given who is free at the minute and who would be interested in the managers post at Liverpool, who is your preferred choice? I know it is hypothetical but just interested in your opinion!
Thanks,
Great site {Ed001's Note - out of a job? There is no one I see that I would want.}

 

 

16 May 2012 19:40:35
eds/macca do you agree that whoever FSG hire as the new manager they will have to give them a big budget to vastly improve the squad and bring in people they want or do you think majority of the budget will come thru player sales? {Ed001's Note - probably mostly come from sales.}

We a sell to buy club. We are adding nothing to the strength of the squad. So how would we expect to improve. We sell our level 5 players for next to nothing and buy another lot of level 5 players because no one wants to come to a club that isn't in the champions league or already has level 8 to 10 people. .

Rafa said when he left he had improved the quality of the playing staff to level 8 to 10 from old level 5

now all his best signing have left, Xabi Alonso, Javier Mascherano, Arbeloa, Torres, The ones left have become too old Gerrard, Carragher, Kuty

To get world class players costs money. It still cost £25 money to get Torres 7 years ago. So someone of his quality now much be worth £50million. The value of money over time dilutes in the football world.

 

 

16 May 2012 19:40:05
Back to defensive boring football for us then. Guess there will be a huge player clear out on its way too.
Maybe even st Gerrard is not safe now.
Uncertainty at the club now. Back room wipeout, manager gone, players next..
I just wonder who they have ready to take over but whoever it is must have a big team behind him.

 

 

16 May 2012 19:37:00
Hi Ed001,

I see you quite fancy Biesla as the new manager. i also like the way he sets out his teams and the fact you said he is not afraid to drop big names for young talent that deserves a place in the starting line up is also another quality he possess. The question I have for you is in your knowledge is he attainable or should I say could he be tempted to leave his current job to come to Liverpool FC? and another more tricky due to our owners keeping their cards close to their chests do you think he would at the very list be on the short list of candidates to take the hot seat?


LFC4LIFE {Ed001's Note - he is just wishful thinking, there is very little chance we could convince him to leave Athletic. But I don't see why we shouldn't at least try!}

 

 

16 May 2012 19:46:25
Dear Mr the_insider

Who's your inside guy? I'll give it to you son you've come on here a few months ago when DC was sacked, 1st on here to tell everyone Pep was steping down weeks before it was official & now with Kenny, yesterday you said lfc will make an announcement with in 24h you called right again.

Keep up the good work!

Big Dave.

Can't give you names but they're close to both clubs (lfc & fc barca)

The_insider

 

 

16 May 2012 19:46:21
Gutted & sad to hear Kenny has left.... Am obviously surprised, not because he was sacked but with way FSG handled him. No need of FSG to take him to Boston to do that. Hmm, So the fallout in Boston was indeed very significant.

With Kenny & Clarke gone. Everything is up in the air, very hard to guess or know what is happening or going to happen. I would have hoped Clarke to stay, he was an excellent coach hell better than Kevin Kean.

If I were to guess I wouldn't hold my breath over Rafa Benitez or Roberto Martinez becoming the new manager.

And sad to see lots of ppl giving stick to FSG, remember they made a massive investment here, they want something in return... UCL, if we finished 6th/5th couple of points away from 4th I doubt whether FSG would have taken the same decision or not. Now we are in 8th 17pts adrift from Top 4 is clearly unacceptable.

This decision proves me one thing that FSG will do everything the can to take us forward. Ruthless, effort, determination, spending something we expect from passionate Owners. Don't get me wrong FSG are not Abramovich type they have waited, given Dalglish whole season to turn it around certainly much more patient..


I have said it in the past & I will be saying it again Dalglsih wrote his destiny by bringing in those players who he thought would take us forward but in reality they are not good enough.

Will be a waiting game, watching how everything unfolds, new manager, new DOF, new signings, perhaps a new CEO. complete reshuffle, FSG certainly must have money to get theses changes done other wise they would have not take the decision.

Thankyou King Kenny! You will always be our King.
You are always there for us. Thanks for Everything.
The greatest servant Liverpool FC has ever seen.
You 'll never walk alone.

Armando

Er got to say Shankley or Paisley were greater

 

 

16 May 2012 19:46:17
If suarez is sold, which i hope he wont be, we will have to sign 2 world class strikers to replace him. If the owners want to sell him over the evra affair it is utter bullsh*t

 

 

16 May 2012 19:46:03
I would like to know what any of the eds or followers of this page opinions on what has happened are and what you would like to happen

 

 

16 May 2012 19:45:21
afternoon eds & macca half happy half sad about kk but lfc has to move on hope next manager is an experienced one i think rogers and martinez are good managers but not top 4 material to much of a risk even avb would b risk in my eyes would love 2 c capello or dechamps great site eds love 2 hear who u would like in hotseat

rigg10 (long live the king)

 

 

16 May 2012 19:44:49
Red outside Anfield;

"Problem with Kenny is you should never go back"

Reporter: "Who would you have now?"

"Rafa"

You couldn't make it up!

dmedly

Not as cluless as Lawro on 5live.

When assessing the task facing the new manager he said it was huge and many new signings would be needed to challange for top 4. Two minutes later when saying Kenny should have been given more time it was just "a few tweaks" required. He's trhe worst pundit going. Puts no effort into anything and has no insight at all.

 

 

16 May 2012 19:44:46
Well, all the anti Kenny brigade and all their negative posts, finally got what they wanted and the King is gone. I hope you all feel very proud of youselves in playing a massive part in bringing about his downfall. For me, its a sad, sad day. I really don't know where we go from here but one thing is for sure, if we don't get top 4 next season then whoever comes in for KK, will be shown the same revolving door because if FSG are to be believed in their reasons for sacking him, then the precedence is set.
I feel for Kenny and don't understand the mentality of the owners and the so called fans who demand instant success. Rome was not built in a day and LFC was in a bad way in football terms 18 months ago and close to administration. Kenny dragged the club out of the dirt and moved us forward. This was always going to be a rebuilding process and 'work in progress'. However, 1 trophy, 2 finals and back in Europe later, he's gone. It's totally the wrong decision and I hope I'm proved wrong but you only have to look down the East Lanc Road to see what patience, backing and stability brings. I hope the anti- Kenny brigade sleep well tonight.
The Goatherder
JFT96

Erm Kenny got sacked because he failed to show any improvement on last year in the league and because he handled the Suarez affair badly. End off?

I'm as disillusioned and disheartened as you mate.

Let's talk again at the end of next season Mr Anonymous, when the door begins revolving again because the next guy doesn't deliver. This is not the LFC way. I'll say again, patience and stability...........
The Goatherder
JFT96

 

 

16 May 2012 19:39:45
A very sad day!
Kenny will always be my hero and he will never walk alone.
In my opinion he should have been given more time but maybe I am far too biased in Kennys favour.
Moving forward I am horrified at some of the names being mentioned as successors,also concerned that Fenway blatantly dont understand football or the passion we have for our heroes.It is imperative that they get this appointment spot on otherwise we are finished.
Another obvious concern now is the future of Suarez,I dont think he will stay but pray that he will.
Bottom line really is God help us,I cant think of any realistic names but my love for my heroes makes me say bring back Rafa and get Carrra as his apprentice.

Derek

 

 

16 May 2012 19:39:40
FSG Will approach: Van Gaal and he will be unveiled on monday.

harley

If this happens I will be made up

Peter

 

 

16 may 2012 19:39:39
*********major manager update *********

hi all,

first time poster here and directed here by some fellows from kop talk as i understand the traffic here is colossal.

i wanted to share with you some interesting news i have received from a close associate to paul tomkins- respected blogger for lfc.tv

the owners have prided themselves on "doing a lot of listening" and putting emotion and adulation to one side for our beloved king kenny- few can argue that he has failed largely on both transfer dealings, media handling and most importantly results on the pitch.

henry gave the direction and assigned mr werner for the delivery of kds fate as early as the wigan defeat.

contrary to reports kd was not offered a position upwards and the reason being is that the owners are already aware of who they want...

mr. rafa benitez ....

talks have not happened "secretly" for rafa has too much respect for kd and understands the liverpool culture / "way" but as soon as there were talks linking him to an interim role at chelsea, the owners made a point of casual contact intimating that rafa was more suited to continuing a project he may feel he never got to complete with lfc.

now expect rafa to be reinstated as manager by end of may and he will automatically be working on transfer targets without a dof or any technical director roles to report into. £££ afforded to him is at this point unknown but rumour has it he will be looking to buy during the euros so poss players not featuring at the tournament.

aside from his ability to pinpoint young exciting talent in his native spain, inter milan is one club rafa knows well and also he worked covering the copa america so expect movement around these 3 fronts.

rafa benitez will be back people - as the owners identify this as being the most tactful, correct and popular replacement for the darling of the kop.

mark my words - he will be back in england within 10 days.

remember my name - i will be back with more soon:

**** kevin holloway ynwa *****

One obvious flaw with this post,since when was Wirral not in England.

Derek

No Krap Talk please. It is already bad enough as it is.

an american red

Top stuff Kevin.

I have also heard that Rafa will be cutting his holiday short but not sure whether he is the first choice now that AVB is in the running.

Do people not want Rafa?

Jeeves Sishu

 

 

16 May 2012 19:39:38
I trust FSG have the decency to retain Kenny as a Director at least. Otherwise they know where they can stick their new shirts. Totally gutted for the man who has given everything to our club.
ND

They did offer him a dof role

I'm just not sure if Kenny as a director is best for the club guys. Perhaps a clean break is best with KK as an ambassador of the club but away from the running of the club, you can be too passionate and close to some things!
TSB

 

 

16 May 2012 19:37:39
hi eds i know it will all depend on who we hire as manager and wat suarez decides but do you think there is a chance he could want to leave seeing as kk was the one who defended him and now e has gone

 

 

16 May 2012 19:37:27
my top 5 choices for manager

1. jose mouriniho
2. guus hiddink
3. rafa benitez
4. jochiam loew
5. brendan rogers

notice no guardiola is because he is taking a break from football who is your top pics ed's out of curiosity please

 

 

16 May 2012 19:37:09
Just heard martinez is on his way to have talks with liverpool is this true plz tel me it int

 

 

16 May 2012 19:37:01
i have a feeling that these americans already knew that they would fire kenny before they fired comolli.
take my word they already spoke to the coach they are gonna get weeks ago.
they needed to handle this with care because of kenny and the supporters.
i have a feeling that van marwijk will be the new coach,so a intervieuw with him last week and had a funny feeling he spoke abt loving to coach a team in england or spain.
i feel so sorry for kenny that things did not work out,i love the man and always will.
The problem with these americans they want reports,being around kenny more could have made them see things differently.
these were not the owners we were waiting for they bought the club knew we needed a new stadium.and we will not have 1 in the coming years.
they talk the talk thats all.
net spend 37mil since they came in what the hell do they expect?
berbatov cost man u 30mil.he is leaving with the bench attatched to his new club.
i am soooooo dissapointed.
KENNY YOU WILL NEVER WALK ALONE.
GOODLUCK AND STAY SAVE

 

 

16 May 2012 19:36:49
I'm gutted KK's gone. Of course I respect FSG decision but still gutted nevertheless. I said all along sacking Kenny was never going to be the solution unless world class replacement was being recruited and FSG were prepare to buy a striker, right wing, creative midfielder and left-back all of high quality. Can't see that happening but maybe FSG will surprise us but I'll anxiously await developments. Ed, do you really believe FSG will surprise us all and appoint a world class manager and provide him with the funds to justify sacking the King. Also, do you expect Kenny to be given a role at Liverpool? I think FSG owe it to him.

 

 

16 May 2012 19:36:44
Kennys taken the corporate bullet for the Suarez/Evra affair - nothing else, just look at the footballing stats we have for the past season, as Macca said, we have played some of our best footy for years.

Bacon face and Evra knew exactly what they were doing.......remember it was Evra that started the altercation (but conveniently the press choose to look past this), the Man Utd media went for LFC and particularly Kenny and Suarez.............Luis will now be sold - you can bet you corporate dollars on that!!

Nail on the head mate.

Fergies going to be smiling very smugly tonight.

Absolutely disgusted.

 

 

16 May 2012 19:36:43
well macca you were certainly right about the changes in the club
derryred

 

 

16 May 2012 19:35:42
Just some thoughts on the Liverpool situation - firstly ive been a red for 37 years and can just about remember the last time we won the league however as far as I can see there are two or three massive problems at our famous club
Firstly is our (the fans)expectations - we are at the moment no nearer to winning the league than we have been since we last won it - infact we have gone backwards over the last 3 years and yet we still as fans think that we should be challenging when we should because a bit more realistic - I say that we won't be challenging for a league for at least 5 years - it took rafa that long to build a team and if it wasn't for the two idiots who promised the world and never delivered then maybe we wouldn't be in this situation now. So whoever we get now in charge it will take them at least that long to build a squad to challenge as without champions league qualification then we won't be able to attract the players to challenge for the league!
Secondly is the players mentality - what is it with English players that can't handle the prospect of playing for Liverpool - do they all think that when they sign for us that is it they have made it??
And while I'm at it lets move from Anfield and start a fresh and start building for the future instead of living on the past and reduce the expectation levels and except the fact that we are at least 5-10 years away from the top but we will get there with time
Come on you reds!! And all the best to our new leader whoever it might be

 

 

16 May 2012 19:35:37
I can't help thinking this is a massive PR clear out after the Suarez affair, everyone involved has gone! Suarez may be next?

Evered

 

 

16 May 2012 19:42:08
I just am saying what all Reds feel..
Kenny we need you at club.. you are our Hero you must stay with the club..You will always be a legend..

Its now time to move on..We need to think about new things to be written..

LFC need new Hero's and new glorious moments..

It was very easy for FSG to sack kenny but difficult thing will be to back new man big financially in transfer market.
These players are not good enough to wear LFC red.

Red Indian

 

 

16 May 2012 19:39:51
The King has been removed from his throne, there is no doubting what he means to the fans because of his previous regime and playing days. However, emotions and our feelings towards him aside, this is the correct footballing decision.

A lack of luck can not explain us hitting the post nearly 50 times this season, missing numerous penalties and general poor finishing. Poor home record, poor league results, worst season in 50 odd years.

As I type Ian Ayre is up on SSN so maybe he has not left, talking about the long term plan, and saying he is not leaving. If he is to be in charge of finding a replacement, I worry. He helped bring in Roy Hodgson and we all know how that ended.

However someone needs to be brought in above Ian Ayre to run the club correctly. I have continually championed the cause to bring Brian Barwick into the club, he would be an excellent addition as would David Dein. Both men of vast experience and clout in English and world football.

I expect FSG have a plan with regards to the appointments of a CEO and a DoF, but as yet not the manager. Martinez, Lambert and Rodgers are not the answer. Van Gaal and Capello are experienced men who we could approach, proven club managers. Klopp, , Guardiola, Loew, Villas-Boas, Emery, Sanchez Flores are young managers could be approached.

RedSG

 

 

16 May 2012 19:35:37
I would like to see Maradona in charge he will bring back the flair whats needed at lfc wouldent cost to much to get im also he would attract big name.

Trigger61

Ha ha ha you are defo drunk Trigger61 or your a right plonker

Would prefer Madonna !

Fantastic post...You are truly an expert on all things football...Short post, I'm afraid, it's time for my medication, and I've pencils stuck up each nostril...Wibble

 

 

16 May 2012 19:35:10
fsg is a business, so i am sure champions league is a must for them next season.

they must of done there research that if they can't get some other top manager with champion league experiance, then rafa is the man. the wigen manager would just be another hodgson. i would love to hear some thoughts of our squad from rafa. haha

something like. (in a spanish accent) " the sQuad.. bAd mentality. the standered of qAulity has lowered since i was last here. gerRARd is not getting any younger.

also i would i like the receites for jordan, downing, adam. i could of got better players for a combined fee of £2

 

 

16 May 2012 19:35:05
For me, it has to be Txiki Begiristain as DOF and Marcelo Bielsa as Head Coach. I don't think there are any other realistic targets that could really get me excited. The owners need to show more ambition than ever!

Once the King, always the King. Can't be any more grateful for what he has done.

Stone YNWA.

100% agree , Also David Dein as CEO

Guinnessred8

 

 

16 May 2012 19:24:50
I have always thought that KK was not good enough to be manager full time. He made a great safe hands manager after Woy but should never have been given it full time. Although I would like to thank him for his efforts and can leave with his head held high.
I have always thought Raffa had unfinished business with Liverpool and should never have been sacked first time round. In my view he is the only person we want back. As we have already lost 2 years. With decent owners and backing I believe that Raffa can make us a top 4 team again. You just have to look at how far we have fallen in the last 2 years and the quality of the playing squad.
I really really hope that we dont get a manager like Martinez or Rodgers, as i think this would be a step backwards and show just what a mid table team with have come. If it is not to be Raffa we need a world class manager who can attract big name players. It is time for FSG to show the fans they mean business the year with a top manager and decent funds. If we are ever to get back in the top 4 things have to change.

In Raffa we trust

Rushdentillidie

 

 

16 May 2012 19:24:16
Hi Edd's
Is the Tea lady still here or have they sacked her aswell?
Can the last person to leave please turn the lights off :o(

Phooey {Ed001's Note - she's picking the team next week.....}

 

 

16 May 2012 19:33:36
ed1 why is it that ayre has to be replaced? can you explain to me why he is not good enough?tanx

majestic69 {Ed001's Note - because he was the MD who led the club through the season, can you really say he has done a good job of it? The whole club is a shambles and he is the man in charge.}

Do you think dein is nailed on to get it? he would be an excellent choice? tanx

majestic69 {Ed001's Note - he seems to be the first choice, but it is down to him to accept it.}

 

 

16 May 2012 19:33:02
"Closing Down Sale" sign on Shankley Gates. Staff all sacked or resigned and players for sale. Anfield bought by Tesco. Turns out Henry is a Manc...........

JanMolbyFan

 

 

16 May 2012 19:32:43
Eds I was wondering if (and this is a big if) rafa was to soften his stance on total control at the club and accept working under somebody do you think he would top the list as kenny's replacement?

Also just wanted to pass on my prayers and thoughts to a good mate of mine and avid Liverpool supporter whose 10 day old daughter is in a critical condition in hospital. Stay strong buddy, remember you'll never walk alone. #prayforlilly

Cheers

Greggers {Ed001's Note - no, I don't think Rafa will have any chance. Best wishes to your friend and his little one!}

 

 

16 May 2012 19:32:38
well who ever 'our' new manager is its safe to say the english players will be wiped from the club along with the fading memories and identity of the club...sacrifice greatness for glory??

King kennys better off the club he knew ain't relevent anymore

 

 

16 May 2012 19:31:13
hi eds if you was given the choice who would you choose as the new liverpool manager? i personally like cspello or deschamps but what about you? {Ed001's Note - only one man for me Marcelo Bielsa.}

 

 

16 May 2012 19:30:27
I can not believe that King Kenny has been sacked he was doing a brilliant job and I personally would have given him the job for life. I am confident though that he will find another perch and lets hope that Fergie doesn't find out about it. I AM KLOOT

 

 

16 May 2012 19:22:52
I don't really see why people are trying to compare Martinez to Hodgson. Martinez is a young up and coming manager with raw talent and I think that's clear to see, he doesn't have experience at the top, but he's got to get that experience somehow and to keep Wigan in the premier league as well as he has done with that squad is a real achievment. Hodgson is a worn out manager with old philosophys and no idea how to manage at the top level, and that's why he's England manager.

Sure, Martinez wouldn't be my first choice, but probably my realistic choice.

 

 

16 May 2012 19:22:48
Upset to see kenny go , but I think it was the correct thing to do.

Also is be very surprised if FSG hadn't spoke to there targets before letting kenny go.

Just hope its a top manager with experience in winning things.

Martinez in my opinion would be a big mistake.

LAVERS

 

 

16 May 2012 19:22:33
We should go with a coach who use young player intaligently . Pep is the right one. but he may not join Liverpool. Klopp is a good one too. Capello do that too.

 

 

16 May 2012 19:21:59
From BBC Website:

'Liverpool managing director Ian Ayre says that it was not a mistake to hire Kenny Dalglish after the Scot was fired following 16 months in charge.

"When Kenny was offered the role on a caretaker basis back in January last year, the club was at a particularly low point," Ayre says. "He helped piece the club back together and for that, everyone at Liverpool Football Club will be eternally grateful.

"The football club is now in a much healthier shape than it was last January off the pitch."

Ayre must still be here then?? Can anyone clear this up??

 

 

16 May 2012 19:21:59
Ayre just quoted on the BBC website, assume he is still kicking around then?

 

 

16 May 2012 19:28:25
Hi eds, what do you personally feel abt fsg's decision?

Cheers {Ed001's Note - I think it was the wrong one myself. Unless the replacement is Bielsa.}

Agreed ed but do we have a hope in getting beisla ? {Ed001's Note - not really.}

Agree with ed...

KingMiz

Im very disappointed with the americans decision. I'v lost all faith in the owners and what they have done today, it is a dragger in the managers heart.

They shot bambi and eat the mans reputation, snapped his bones open and sucked out his marrow. This just goes to show that the owners are nothing more than a carbon copy of Hicks and Gillette. Well I would say they are a mix of Hick's + Alan Sugra.

Both make for poor football owners. They decision made so far by the has been one that has cost the football club dearly.

a sheep shearer shouldn't try to cut his wife's hair even if the principle is the same. Them owning a English football team is just wrong.

They made a monkey of football shirt, they bought the Director of Football in, they have sacked two manager within two seasons. That is unheard of at a club like liverpool fc.

We invest in a 5 year plan. We never hire a man for over night success. Honestly I don't think jose mourinho would be able to do much better with that current corp of players.

Kenny Daligish bought success to the football club after 6 years with. So he has achieved something that arsen wenger hasn't


Sickening decision.

 

 

16 May 2012 19:28:13
Never thought id say this but please can we have rafa back. if the other 2 cowboys (hicks & gillet) had just given him the funds to buy villa and silva when he wanted them it could have all been so much different.

But you'd have fallen asleep watching rafa's teams play football. even in the 2009 season we had too many 0-0 draws. at least under kenny we played some amazing football
derryred

And what makes you think that the present cowboys would give Rafa money after they saw the kind of squad he left behind a couple of seasons ago?

Mr. Nokneejerking

 

 

16 May 2012 19:27:26
macca
who would be your ideal and realistic replacement?
do you know the situation with hiddink?
id like too see him at anfield too be honest.
harry h

Klopp or Benitez.

Cheers

Macca {Ed016's Note - Verified. Real Macca)

Macca, whenever possible, inform us with the manager situation's inside plans. We really need it at this time.
AnfieldUSA

 

 

16 May 2012 19:27:26
AAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHHH !!

3 managers in 2 years.

We're becoming chelsea :(

The managerial revolving door has landed on the Melwood lawns, mate. Just sit back and enjoy it. i hope you have a long list of managers on queue of your own. Every LFC fan should have one. Great times ahead.

Mr. Nokneejerking

But without their money

 

 

16 May 2012 19:26:55
Klopp, Biesla, Emery, Capello ?? Please no, The 1st 3 havnt got a word of English and Biesla wouldnt leave Athletico to come to us, As for Capello, Please god no. Either bring back rafa or get in martinez, Martinez the current favourite in the bookies

 

 

16 May 2012 19:26:30
Personally I think Jürgen Klopp will be the new Liverpool manager...

Cheers

Phil

He will not leave Dortmund for LFC, dude.

Mr. Nokneejerking

 

 

16 May 2012 19:25:55
Well today I am a little ashamed to be a Liverpool fan, the way they have treated Kenny Dalglish is unforgivable, everyone deserves time to build a team and now we are back to square 1!!. It looks like everyone associated with the Suarez affair has got the boot, except one person, Suarez himself, i wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't next.

The appointment of a new manager is going to tell us a lot about the future of the club under FSG. If we appoint someone like Martinez it tells us we haven't got a lot of money to spend and we need a manager who is adept at getting the best from a team with little investment (maybe this is why Kenny left, no money available).
If we do appoint someone like Pep or Murinho then the club looks a lot brighter as they wouldn't come unless money was available!

Personally I think we wouldn't go wrong if got someone like Ancellotti, he has won everything in the game, a great defensive manager, experienced in running a big club and has won the premiership.

Evered

Surely you want a manager who will get the most out of a squad regardless of how much money you have isn't that an indication o talent as a manager. After I could spend money on well known players but my cv has never got me an interview at lfc
TSB

Completely agree Evered... I suggested Ancellotti earlier before the news. However at the moment I can't bring myself to look to the future...

I'm cut up by the King's departure.... I feel he needed more support. I expect Suarez to be gone soon...

Richards

You really are delusional. Pep or JM will never come to a mid table premier team unless they had citeh or chelski money. We do not. FSG want to build a team and want a manager thar gets the best out of players. This is something that KK failed to do consistently. Martinez is quality in that he gets players to play well and was largely responsible for the Swansea team that did so well. Whether he is the best candidate I am not so sure but he is no mug.

 

 

16 May 2012 19:18:53
dont be too surprised if its klinsmen

Klinsman does not want to leave California, & I would have to say can't blame him for that.

an american red

 

 

16 May 2012 19:15:31
Very happy by the decision! Kenny is a legend and always will be, however he just wasn't right to take us forward!
I am really liking these new owners, analysing situations and making good, strong decisions based on them.
For me I wouldn't mind any of:
Rodgers, Oneil, AVB, Martinez but I really don't know who!
Personally I believe they will go for someone a little less known, but with a very good record.
Let's back the new manager all the way!

SL

You signed it wrong.. It should of been SAF!.

Yeh really good choice of managers mate-really good.AAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!

 

 

16 May 2012 19:15:06
In my opinion they sacked Dalglish abit to early just like Rafa.
1) Martinez - no CV and not good enough.
2) Benitez - never won the league in his 6 years and he had the resources.
3) Gaurdiola - looks like he's having a break from football after Barca.
4) Mourinho - didn't want the job.
5) AVB - could do anything with a very good Chelsea squad.
6) Coppello - really!.. Can't see this happening.
7) Errikson - too defencive.
8) Repnapp - doubt he'd leave London and doubt he'd be right for Livepool.
9) Moyes - never happen
10) Rijkaard - done nothing since Barcelonas wealth.

Well fickle fans.. Remember the Benitez affair when you wanted him out without a decent replacement then we got Dire Hodgson.
Let's see what happens but here's another season rebuild.

Benitez had the resources?

 

 

16 May 2012 19:14:57
ed1 or ed2 do you think there is much chance of jurgen klopp to come in as manager?would he be interested? he is quality ..tanx

majestic69 {Ed001's Note - I don't know sorry.}

 

 

16 May 2012 19:21:52
Can anyone please tell me who is currently at the club day to day now then?
Can just imagine walking around anfield and melwood with tumble weed blowing about the place desks overturned and underperforming players sat huddled in a corner crying
Bean

Thats how I see it right now and I've usually got rose tinted glasses on. Think I might go join the players in the corner.

 

 

16 May 2012 19:21:44
Since the turn of the year, i haven't talked about the exit of Dalglish, but as he is out, I would love Martin O'Neill to take over. Has a good track record, and is realistic. Any thoughts, Eds?

Your probably the only one to want O'Neill

RedSG

Get real who the heck wants him he is another graham taylor(turnip head)

No, No, NO!!!!



clm96p

Oh sweet jesus!

i would rather go back to Souness or Woy than have him at the club.

 

 

16 May 2012 19:21:34
Dear Mr Mac
Do you think theres possibilities of Steve Nicol taking charge or am I just going down the american road...I heard last week it was to be Deschamps but cant see it..At the end of the day Kenny was brought as a bit of a stop gap.I think the messers Henry and Werner already had a man lined up whether or not the meeting went bad..smf

 

 

16 May 2012 19:19:45
Question eds what do u say about the owners does your opinion remains the same that they are good owners. My personal opinion is that they just want money ASAP. Which is fair enough it's business for them but they have no passion about football or Lfc.

Gr8 1 {Ed002's Note - They are good owners.}

Ed2 you think there could be a chance of klopp?he is excellent {Ed002's Note - I think it unlikely.}

 

 

16 May 2012 19:18:53
dont be too surprised if its klinsmen

 

 

16 May 2012 19:17:57
Macca whats happening who do you thin is more likely i would personally like to see benitez rather than martinez can you update us when you can mate

Cheers JJ

 

 

16 May 2012 19:17:05
surely now this means that liverpool future plans will now be changed, could loosing Commolli be a door for Benitez to return to the Healm and made a change from were he last left off ?thanks

 

 

16 May 2012 19:15:31
Very happy by the decision! Kenny is a legend and always will be, however he just wasn't right to take us forward!
I am really liking these new owners, analysing situations and making good, strong decisions based on them.
For me I wouldn't mind any of:
Rodgers, Oneil, AVB, Martinez but I really don't know who!
Personally I believe they will go for someone a little less known, but with a very good record.
Let's back the new manager all the way!

SL

Will you be so happy when they sell Suarez? I won't, that's for sure.

 

 

16 May 2012 19:13:27
People who are now against our owners are pathetic, they may have sacked kenny but he came out afterwards praising them for it. Kenny sadly isnt the right man to take us forward. 5 time European cup winners and 18 league titles, 8th place is not good enough. We are Liverpool FC and we will bounce back!
JF92

See if you think there so special when the new team arrive . And yes you can respond when every you like I'm psv

 

 

16 May 2012 19:13:24
Want pep, klopp, morinho, or cruyff. No one else is good enough for club. I suspect that fsg might have been plotting with rafa, so I expect them to name rafa, and then he will bring in his own staff. If we get Martinez or Rodgers or similar, we are doomed.


Red first & last.

 

 

16 May 2012 19:13:24
The owl was right on kenny's last 24 hours...now trust me on the news that Rafa will be in post as boss by end of week
The owl

You were spot on with regards to Kenny, Owl mate. I don't know if you have any sources mate but you were spot on this time.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Blair he had a 50% chance of been right mate he was going to be sacked or he wasn,t not rocket science to pick one stick with it then you sound like your in the know lol

 

 

16 May 2012 19:12:30

So out of the below who would be the choice for new manager?

Bielsa.
Laudrup.
Villas Boas.
Rafa.
Emery.
Van Gaal.
Hiddink.
Martinez.
Rodgers.
Lambert.
Capello.


Jonesred

Roberto martinez for me

Jurgen Kloop would be my choice...
but i got this funny feeling it may be Klinsman..?

Phooey

Klopp

 

 

16 May 2012 19:11:34
already in talks with avb and klinsmen 2 new cowboys as owners ? net spend 30 mil average bought club for 300 mil new kit deal sold for 300 mil new sponsor sold for 80 mil paid debt off i make it spent nothing starting to worry {Ed002's Note - You maths is of course rubbish. The club have lost 100M since they took over - who has paid for that? The new kit deal will be worth and additional 12.5M per year and open the door to further opportunities. The Standard Chartered deal was brokered by H&G.}

The accounts didn'tshaw £100 million loss
Bobbinred

 

 

16 May 2012 19:11:13
From Suarez's interview on twitter:
@ Mark # EntrevistaLuisSuárez what do you think about the rumors that you placed in the orbit of FC Barcelona? Have you considered changing clubs?

'If you ignore all the rumors that appear in the newspapers, you go crazy. I have the head very quiet, I have a contract at Liverpool and I am very happy there.'

CH

 

 

16 May 2012 19:06:44
god, dont know what to say, when is this musical chairs game gonna stop?

but anyways whats happened is already done. this is another through at the dies . lets hope we get it right.
now right means im not hoping for morenhio or pep to step in,(in my dreams) but at lest not the likes of martinez or martin oniel(spell?). that would surely send a messege loud n clear that we just dont measure up at top level. and would be a mistake ( like hodgson , no big club experience. ). what these guys then try is to pull the club down to their small club methodologies.that would be a disaster.

.WE SHOULD GO EUROPEAN THIS TIME. N MUST GO FOR BIG , THEN ONLY GOOD PLAYERS WILL TAKE NOTICE.

MAYURR.

 

 

16 May 2012 19:05:33
love the king grew up with him as a player then mangaer always a legend best liverpool player i've ever seen genius all the best kenny in what ever you do. RED KENNY

 

 

16 May 2012 19:05:13
And so we're back to square one. since benitez' time we have been in constant change between one thing or another. new manager, new owners, sack manager,new manager, owners kicked out, new owners in, manager sacked, new manager in, new manager sacked! all in how long? 7years? this has to stop. the new owners made deciscions last season, and now have undone them, which at least shows that they're deciscive, but they have to make sure this time. shame abt kenny...... the king is dead, long live the king DAR

 

 

16 May 2012 19:02:58
Kenny recently said that he owed lfc far more than they owed him - he was wrong

 

 

16 May 2012 19:02:46
I have been told that there are going to be big big changes at the end of the season..

Does this mean the end for Kenny?

Are the owners going to start flexing there muscles?

Cheers

Macca
-------------------------------------------------------------
posted on the 22nd april, bang on macca.

long live the lion king, YNWA.

-------------------------------------------------------------
I know i said that but i was also assured by the players that he was going to get another year, not sure what happened in Boston..

Cheers

Macca

Dalglish went back on his word that he would sell Suarez this summer, FSG/Henry want him gone. Dalglish said back me or sack me, they sacked him, Suarez will be sold.

Hi Macca,

I think we all expected big changes, but I didn't think Kenny would be one to leave. I felt he should go but I am shocked that he has!

After this I expect FSG to spend big in order to achieve their objectives.

RedSG

 

 

16 May 2012 19:02:15
Please tell me Martinez will not become manager. This is the manager who was very close to being relegated and then in the last 8 matches of the season pulled it out of his arse to keep them alive. He is average and will not cope. Your thoughts on Martinez ed?

 

 

16 May 2012 19:02:02
Failure at Liverpool apparently includes a cup win & a cup final. At other unnamed clubs a manager can stick around for 10 years,finish mid table and win less than Portsmouth & Birmingham in that time!
That is why they are a "SMALL CLUB" (Rafa)
Robbo7

Any one can win a cup , wimbeldon, birmingham etc but champions win leagues and we have never won the premier league , we need to move on , come on you reds , red mick tag , ynwa

 

 

16 May 2012 18:52:04
Hi Eds, Rumour is that FSG have targeted AVB to be the next LFC manager.

 

 

16 May 2012 18:50:54
I would love to see marcelo bielsa a great manager and he hates the sun newspaper.

He hasnt got a word of english and he wont leave athletico to come to us, no chance

Why does he hate the s**trag? Never knew that is it true?

Can anyone confirm?

Jonesred {Ed001's Note - I believe it is something to do with his time as an international manager of Argentina.}

 

 

16 May 2012 18:49:56
Looks like AVB is next up..

Cheers

 

 

16 May 2012 18:49:53
Ed do you think the new manager will play Sterling more than Kenny? PMSL sorry i'm busy laughing at all the silly questions that you could not possibly answer but people still want to ask you! lol {Ed002's Note - I will decide after I have taken a look at him in the pre-season.}

 

 

16 May 2012 18:47:28
If these reports of Kenny's dismissal are true and indeed it was the King himself that forced the decision by giving FSG an ultimatum. Back him or sack him now so the club can continue and recover quickly depending on the outcome. Even down to the last minute Kenny had nothing but the clubs best interest at heart. It is rare to find a manager who cares so much about a football club. So to all you "fans" who have been calling for his head, I hope you are happy. We could be in the same position next year, just without such an individual in charge. Who is going to take over? "Big name" managers (for want of a better phrase) won't be a major possibility as our transfer and wage policy is not going to entice them. So who else? What happened last time we got an over achieving mid table manager? That went well. Kenny was the best man for the job, at least until next season. Any synergy, confidence in the squad (that at sometimes played good teams off the park) will be lost, and we will spend the most of next season experimenting and ultimately, a high chance of another disappointing season. In a perfect world, FSG has an ace up their sleeve, a world class manager and some big money available. Alas, this is unlikely. I posted awhile ago praising the owners for being assertive, I hope this decision is the right one, big few months for our club and their intentions.
The people who called for KK's resignation/sacking are the same people who destroy our players on forums, mostly with irrational, un-informed comments fuelled by the green eyed monster, as they watch city spend millions. The pressure for playing for a club like Liverpool is great enough without fans turning on you for a couple of unlucky/unfortunate results or performances, it just exacerbates the situation. Confidence is a very important aspect to a players performance and supporting your players, helps them achieve the peak. I have been consistently dis-heartened over the last few seasons, not by the club, but by the "fans." I am embarrassed to be associated with them. They make bad situations worse and create an atmosphere of discontent instead of standing up and supporting the club in times of need. You know who you are.
Davey Liver

Welcome to the world of big time sports. If you can't handle it the pressure, move on. Guardiola is exhausted and he is young enough to be Kenny's son.

If Aguero had not scored in the 94th minute of the last game of the season, very likely Mancini would now be job-hunting.

It is what it is. No need to start turning on fellow Reds fans. Not sure you have earned the right.

 

 

16 May 2012 18:46:45
ed your opinion of laurent blanc is he a candidate? DORSET RED {Ed001's Note - I wouldn't choose him, he doesn't seem to have it (I don't know how to describe it sorry) for me. I am sure that he will at least be considered. But I don't see any signs he is right for us from his record, personally. He seems to be struggling a little with France.}

 

 

16 May 2012 18:46:43
Would Martinez get the job at Man City, United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs or any other top European team? NO! We need a top manager to take us back to where we belong.

 

 

16 May 2012 18:46:22
Evening eds fellow reds, sorry to keep writting . BUT........BOSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM..hate to say this but yanks again look to be our club up. said a week ago this will prove what sort of owners we have . hope for everyones sake they understand what liverpool fc stands for we stick together but we dont get shafted ,by noone ask hicks and gillet .cheers psv

 

 

16 May 2012 18:59:18
eds.do you think that fsg have a couple of managers in mind as there statement say's it was not a hasty decision. i really hope so as or we could miss out on players if it takes to long i'm gutted about kenny. just hope fsg get us a top manager that has won medals not someone that has had 1 good season at a club.

buddy's lfc {Ed001's Note - I am certain that they have people in mind.}

I reckon they have already been approached and excepted.
Why else would they get rid of stability on a hunch?

 

 

16 May 2012 18:58:56
macca .dont usaully comment .but who would you most like to see move in to the hot seat

 

 

16 May 2012 18:58:53
Hi fellow reds, still cannot decide if the right decision has been made but one thing is for sure kenny is a legend and always will be and is due our respect whether you like him or not.
So the search for a manager starts right now, what I would like to know is who it is that the Americans are taking advice off because ther in no beggar left to ask.

I can only guess some ground work has been done already and someone is advising them.

Mo

 

 

16 May 2012 18:58:48
Any talk about playes will only be guesswork until the new management team is appointed.

 

 

16 May 2012 18:58:45
Don't be surprised if we get a yes man like Martinez.
A joke of a decision, but this is what the younger generation of fans wanted so FSG listened!
Well done you guys!
A giant has been cut down!
You youngsters don't have a clue & need to go back to FIFA 12 or whatever floats your boat.
This is gonna cause a civil war within the club in my opinion.

Very very disgruntled fan!!!

Get a grip fella.

Yes Kenny was and always will be a 'king'. he did the club a big favour and stepped in and steadied the ship after woy. fact is we are not going to move forwards unless we change. The change has started.

Behave he got sacked cos the results were a disgrace 14 defeats come on if it was anybody else he wud have went ages ago , its all about results

I am part of a younger generation and i think its a disgrace of a decision unless kenny wanted it
derryred

Why all ways call the younger generation I am only 17 and have supported for my whole life, I wanted Kenny to stay he had built the the base last summer and get it to a high standard this summer, but it's done now so we will have to support whoever comes in as manager for the sake of Kenny so he didn't pull us all together for nothing and it break apart again.

Wozza {Ed016's Note - a very intelligent 17 year old Liverpool fan)

 

 

16 May 2012 18:57:24
Disgraceful decision. Ynwa kk forever in our hearts. Martinez, Benitez - no thank you. We deserve a pep or a Mourinho. Wrong thing to do jwh

 

 

16 May 2012 18:56:32
Hey Eds
Firstly, I am quite the educated footballing person, so this post isn't about players in or out, obviously those shall wait until we have completely sorted things in the backroom. Also, this isn't me telling people who will be the next manager, although those that have had a go are clearly deluded (shouts for Capello, Guardiola and Mourinho are ridiculous!) All I want to know is this; What are the chances of Rafa coming back as manager? I'm a little unsure on Martinez and he appears to be faovurite at the minute, but seriously what has he done!? His team plays good football but every season he's fighting relegation, at least when we hired Roy Hodgson he had turned Fulham from relegation-bound to a mid-table side and challenging for Europe! {Ed001's Note - I would be shocked if Rafa is appointed.}

 

 

16 May 2012 18:55:54
Ed from pictures and media reports it seems FSG wanted Clark to stay..
Could you speculate on my gut feeling that FSG wanted to do a Barca and promote a structure of Coach and DOF.where a coach only looks at on field matters.
What you think ed?
Red Indian
{Ed001's Note - Clarke was not seen as a replacement, but to stay as number 2. We already had a coach and DoF structure, so I fail to understand what exactly you are asking if it is not that!}

I mean ED that Clark becomes a manager with less power and all players are chosen by DOF. In Kenny- Commoli relationship Kenny choose players camolli bought them..

But I guess you answered this in first part of your answer any way its just that it looks like from pictures from Boston FSG were trying to hold onto Clark..Or I am reading much into them. {Ed016's Note - I have no clue yet, there has been nothing official from the club.)

 

 

16 May 2012 18:54:45
Absolutely disgusted we got rid of Dalglish without even a chance .
Doesn't send out good signals for any other manager does it.

What do you mean"without even a chance"?............what sort of a chance did we give Roy Hodgson in his 6 months?

 

 

16 May 2012 18:22:30
Eds, please post, as I think this may make people think twice about potential managers. The post does infact have significance to Liverpool if you read it all!

Yes, Bilbao are an easy team to have admiration for:
- They have a high calibre of players (Llorente, Muniain, Martinez, Herrera etc.)
- They play attractive, possesion football but usually have a 'plan B'
- They beat United in the Europa League, convinvingly as well!
- There entire first team squad comprises of players from the Basque region of Spain and they are not allowed to purchase or loan any player who is not at least part Basque

However:
- They have had poor perfomances this season, it's just nobody seems to take any notice of those, when they're are the fashionable team to support at the present
- They league position is poor considering their playing squad, after all Barca, Liverpool, United, City and many other 'big teams' would happily take their star players
- That kind of set-up where only home-grown players are allowed takes years to become successful after implementation
- Doesn't every team up their game against the bigger teams, and I'm sure the Europa League wasn't top of Ferguson's priorities

Yes, Bielsa is a good manager, and yes his contract is up in June, but always consider the 'pros' and 'cons' of a manager before throwing his name into the ring. The same appies to managers like Roberto Martinez, Brendan Rodgers etc.

Opionions Eds, Macca, anyone else...

JamietheRed
{Ed001's Note - I don't think you understand what Bielsa has done there. Before he arrived, Athletic were what the Spanish called 'an English team'. In other words, kick and rush. He has turned them into an exciting, ball playing side capable of out playing Barca. Yes they have had some bad results, towards the end of the season the number of games they had to play has taken their toll. But they don't have a large squad, most of their players are kids from their youth team. Try looking back at his record, the man is a genius, just ask Pep.}

Does Bielsa speak English ?

Guinnessred8

Ed do you know if he would consider leaving Bilbao or if he would consider LFC?
cheers! JF LFC

 

 

16 May 2012 18:23:21
who r fsg going to get in? george bush?
shud av given king another season or half
wazaldinho7

 

 

16 May 2012 19:01:35
thats the liverpool way gone now for sure where do we go from here gutted

red rrab

 

 

16 May 2012 19:00:45
So Kennys gone, SC and DC gone, ayre is gone, wholesale chAnges with coaching staff too i assume...
Big squad changes on the horizon eds? Obviously too early to predict the who what n why of new players and staff but certainly an eventful summer ahead either way!

 

 

16 May 2012 18:50:08
hi all i am sad to see the legand kenny go though i have mentioned in the past i dont think he maybe has it in him (remember is manger period at celtic didnt last long either another club he had a passion for ).
me personally i would have liked him to have stayed next season with maybe chriss houton(birmingham manager as assistant sorry spelling) then kenny handing over in 12 months time.
i believe that if kenny had not walked out all those years ago we would have had a manageral legand in him.
i dont think rafa is the answer either .
my heart is heavy with today's news but i don't think martinez is the answer either . i just hope the next manager is of lfc calibre because liverpool dont do things the way chelsea do we like em to hang around .
just had a awful thought hope they dont bring over the la galaxy manager for us.
thank you all on this sad day mal ..

 

 

16 May 2012 18:21:50
I'm gutted that as supporters we have not "sung off the same hymn sheet" for as long as I've been a fan but none more so than the past 2 years, and I'm part of the new generation so a generalization cannot be made about instant success fans...

The King is gone and he will always, always be a legend for sticking his neck out when it mattered most and steadying the sinking ship. It may have been a forced hand as many will claim but there is at least a big window in which to find the correct replacement.
FSG, as a business, have clearly made their intentions of success known and I'm sure they have been thorough in their analysis of 'where too?'

Despite the improved stability, FSG have now created a situation of delicacy in which it is imperative that the correct replacement is found.
Criterion for the new man in charge will have to comprise of:
An astute man-manager
A manager with a nous for the tactical battle;
Someone who can provide a vast improvement within a relatively short period of time but who is established and has made a reputation for himself (In the modern day and age this is the unfortunate reality);
A man who can implement a positive mentality and attractive football philosophy while maintaining solidity with tactics;
A man who's name in itself could be the difference between a top transfer target joining or not, hence an established manager;
Someone who can ensure sustained growth of the football club on all levels, not just someone to lay a foundation.

It is however time, not to dwell on the past but look for a completely fresh approach. There are very few candidates who are available and meet all of the above criteria however they are there. Biesla is a name touted about, possessing a team with very similar attributes to ours and he has made a name for himself on the international stage. However this is by no means the correct appointment, as it's only in retrospect where one can truly tell.

Whatever the ensuing results may produce and the future holds, I ask that every LFC Supporter walks in the same direction and together, never alone.
A club divided against itself cannot stand.
So to everyone affiliated with Liverpool Football Club Past, Present and Future

You'll Never Walk Alone

NextGenRed

 

 

16 May 2012 18:16:23
Sorry if this has already been cleared up Eds but if Dein came in what position would he take?

Thanks,
Sam. {Ed001's Note - it would be a CEO type role.}

Is Dein defo lined up ed ?
The Real KB {Ed001's Note - we have been trying to get him, not sure if he is going to accept though or not.}

Is this the Arsenal Dein? {Ed001's Note - yes.}

 

 

16 May 2012 18:16:00
I dont really know much about bielsa why do u rate him so highly ed can u give me like a quick 'manager profile' cheers {Ed001's Note - because he gets his team to play the most attractive, expansive football in the world. Pep Guardiola cited him as the inspiration for the way Barca play. He gives kids a chance, in fact often dropping established stars to make space for younger players to get in the team. But most of all, his teams are a joy to watch. His Chile team was the most exciting international team I have ever seen.}

Would love bielsa but it won't happen

Is Biesla a realistic target Ed? Or will we be looking at someone like Martinez? {Ed001's Note - I don't think there is a hope in hell of Bielsa, unfortunately. I am not convinced Martinez is going to get the job either though.}

Why not bielsa ed??

Is there a lot of interest I always say you never know unless you try that is why I would also try pep guardiola {Ed016's Note - Pep is taking a break from football, if he couldn't handle the pressure of winning every week with the worlds best team then he couldn't handle it over in England with a team no where close to as good as Barca)

 

 

16 May 2012 18:02:06
question for ed 1 how old is bielsa and can he speak english.also if he was approached do you seem him accepting it.thanks DORSET RED {Ed001's Note - he is in his mid 50s, I don't know if he can speak English, but he is fantastic in his handling of the media. He has been known to hold 3 or 4 hour press conferences to talk to the journalists and is universally respected. Oh and Pep Guardiola cites him as the influence for Barca's playing style. I am not sure he would leave Athletic to be honest, he might take a lot of persuading!}

What has he won Ed?

Gazman {Ed001's Note - a couple of Argentinean league titles. But it must be remembered, he managed Argentina at a time when they were not much of a team. Chile were not exactly a force when he took over, but he turned them into one. And now he is at Athletic, who would see their two cup finals this season as a major achievement.}

 

 

16 May 2012 18:52:02
I'm not living on the past glory that kenny brought club but I feel the sacking of kenny was the wrong move for LFC. As a fan I will get behind the new manager (2nd in 2yrs). lets hope LFC aren't adopting the chlsa model.

 

 

16 May 2012 18:50:31
We need a manager who is not scared to tell players there not good enough. Kills me to have the blue neighbors above us

 

 

16 May 2012 18:49:13
Listen fellas! why do you really think Martinez is battling away in the bottom 6 every year?.....They have no money whatsoever and he is working on a shoestring!, I dont personally want him but come on do you really expect him to be challenging for the top 4 with Wigan?........a reality check is needed on here some days, get a grip boys like ive said a time or two before you have to step up at some time not even big name managers work the oracle all the time......Im all for a new ambitious younger manager now to take us forward for the next 20 years,
Do the right thing FSG or its gonna be bedlam on here for months!
Just so you know my own personal pick in an ideal world would be to bust the bank for Mourhino but its a bit fantasy football to be fair.......Just get us the right man!!
The Guv 81-9 YNWA JFT96

 

 

16 May 2012 18:49:11
Really think it has to be Louis van Gaal who has to come in! Great attacking coach with a great CV. Players will respect him and will be able to lure good players to the club without the offer of CL

 

 

16 May 2012 18:48:16
I have never felt so hollow and gutted in my entire life. I'm supporting this club for 15 yrs now and this is THE darkest day for the club in my lifetime.

Unless the owners bring in a WORLD CLASS manager, Yes WORLD CLASS, not Roberto Martinez, not Brendan Rodgers and give him 100m, I can't see the logic behind sacking Kenny.

Truly gutted. Almost on the verge of tears. Goodbye Kenny, you'll never walk alone. Thanks for making us play the most exciting brand of football in years. You will always be a true legend in my eyes.

Lastly, I am not yet going to scream 'YONKS OUT' yet, but I hope to God FSG know what they are doing.

I mean what will happen if the new manager wouldn't be able to get us in the top 4. Will they sack him too then? God knows what must be going on in players' minds.


LONG LIVE THE KING


a sad (and angry)

VM YNWA

Just got in from work and I'm totally gutted. Kenny has given so much to this club, including his health. I can only echo all your remarks. The players should be completely ashamed of themselves. Lower leagues here we come.
ND

You're not the only one VM

 

 

16 May 2012 18:47:57
Bye Kenny thanks for your time back at the helm. I'll still think of you as one of the Liverpool greats.

I feel that appointing Martinez would be a mistake due to lack of experience and credentials. I just cannot see him attracting the class of player we will need. The only managers we should appoint are of the calibre of Mourinho or Pep or along those lines IMO.



The Crow.

 

 

16 May 2012 18:45:11
so eds let me get this strait we have to get someone to fill ian ayres position before we can even start looking for managers ? {Ed001's Note - no, we don't have to do that, but I would expect that position to be filled pretty much straight away and prior to the manager's role.}

 

 

16 May 2012 18:44:59
Hopefully Rafael Benitez or Pep Guardiola will fill in the job, we dont want Roberto Martinez. Who do you think we'll get eds? {Ed001's Note - not a clue, I think the most important appointment is the man to replace Ayre personally though.}

I don't think Ayre has been sacked.
i could be wrong though.

S.G.L.

I think I would go for Bielsa, bub.

 

 

16 May 2012 18:43:59
Absolutely disgusted.

Well FSG have set a precedent, f**k trophies just get champions league football. Arsenal anyone?

Can only be described as a decision of lunacy imo, we finally had some stability at the club and were gradually improving and now this.

I just pray they bring in a manager who plays attacking football, and brings through our outstanding youth. I have watched for far too long the likes of Houllier, Benitez and Hodgson systematically destroy the 'Liverpool Way'.

Long Live the King.

Jatt YNWA

It was only one trophy which was second rate and we finished closer to bolton than tottenham. from a business and football point of view it makes perfect sense

It was only one trophy which was second rate and we finished closer to bolton than tottenham. from a business and football point of view it makes perfect sense

We had our worst league season in 50 odd years.
Our aim was to at least compete for a top four finish, and we didn't even come close.

Winning the league cup wasn't gonna be enough, and in all honesty I don't rate it.

LFC is a business and if you fail you'll be gone like players are when they don't achieve what they were bought for.

We were way off the pace and hearing lines like "there first win at Anfield ever on a monthly basis was infuriating.

Jonesred

Agreed! Hope they have a s**t hot replacement lined up! Ironic though,now he's sacked all the posts are saying wish he'd stayed! Knee jerks! just a week ago you were begging for him to be sacked! Typical!
WelshBoyDave

 

 

16 May 2012 18:41:57
Maccas gone too! No more posts from the inside!

Who will be next?

Since when do Liverpool sack the chef? Lol

Since when do Liverpool sack the chef? Lol

 

 

16 May 2012 18:41:36
New Set up at LFC

Johan Cruyff - DoF

Pep- Guardiola - New Manager


or

David Dein - DoF

Capello-Manager

or

Rafa- New MAnager

 

 

16 May 2012 18:41:19
I am gutted for Kenny and really upset over this decision I hope all fans turn against fsg because this is a disgrace

We're all gutted for Kenny, but to 'turn on FSG' would be a huge mistake! Whether or not we agree with their decision, they are doing what they think will benefit the club. I just hope they bring in a top replacement.

Wake up and smell the coffee, we were going backwards, closer to the relagation plen kenny dalglishaces (16 points) than to the minimum requirement at the start of the season 4th (17 points), can,t let ye heart rule ye head...i love kenny to bits but no ones bigger than LFC

Crap post of the day
5gold stars

We can not keep going against people for the sake of it ; give fsg a chance they gave kenny a chance sadly he blew it (not all down to him i blame most of the players) , thanks kenny good luck to you and all your family. red mick tag ynwa.

What you have posted is a disgrace,FSG bailed our club out when we needed them and we should be grateful for that

 

 

16 May 2012 18:39:27
I as aswel as every other liverpool fan is upset about the decision and the fact that it didn't go the way we had hoped however it was a decision that needed to be made 8th place is just not good enough as for the new manager we would be punching way above our weight if we got someone like pep or mourinho and are highly unlikely and thats a polite way of putting it but we really dont need up and coming young managers. We need someone who can just come in and have the complete respect of the players only then will we have a chance of winning anything or getting champions league football. Being realistic we are never going to get someone of the calibre of the special one but definately someone in his mould.

Red Ronny

Pep should be approached first if he doesn't want it than so be we will look elsewhere

 

 

16 May 2012 18:38:45
i have lost all respect for fenway, the owners of LFC.
(and it all started when chelski was taken over with moneybags roman) the problem is that people expect results straight away. it takes time to build a club, 1 season is nothing. if u dont get results, ur sacked. teams that have been taken over all face this problem. respect to arsenal for sticking by wenger.
fenway have not taken a step forward by sacking kenny, infact they hav put the club years behind. fans who wanted kenny to go, are not real fans, u should be behind the club, even if they were below 8th position. not asking for kenny to be sacked.
shame on those who claim to be supporters and only sing when were winning.
UNLCE ZAINY BEAR.

Quite agree with above poster, we have lost our manager and most of our backroom staff, if Fsg dose not appoint an experienced manager quickly I could see transfer request going in by our top players. Over the last couple of years we have taken one step forward and 3 steps back.
Bobbinred

And when was the last time Arsenal won anything? Changing managers has never stopped Chelsea being succesfull

CT13

And what about the fans who chanted for Hodgson to go....what kind of a chance did we give him.People should take off their Kenny tinted glasses and take a good look around.

Nonsense!!!!!!!!! did u say that under hodgson????? im happy to the fact kenny is gone as its been a disaster, i love him n wont say a bad word but we need someone new, the club is more important than one man!!!
5gold stars

Your missing the point. he was sacked and not given enough time. the same can be said of hodgeson. its unfortunately become the norm in football.
alex fergie won nothing for 6 or 7 years, before winning his first cup.
(p.s. those gold stars u keep talking about, are they hovering around ur head)

5 gold stars u have never said a good word about kenny u make me laugh this time next year if we aint won the league you will be demanding the new managers head i know to add your name to the list of posts not to read up there with red turk

 

 

16 May 2012 18:38:38
Good day ed's , my question is now that there has been an clean-sic happening in liverpool , do use think that with the new people who ever they are coming in could change the targets we have had to joining liverpool ? if we have some high profile people running the club (D.O.F / big name manager) than i think we could very well attract the best without champions league football !!! {Ed002's Note - All I can say is we will have to wait to see.}

 

 

16 May 2012 18:37:01
Hello eds, i know it's impossible to predict... but how long does it usually take to find a manager? do you think the owners will have contacted managers about the position before sacking Daglish?

Who would be your personal choice of manager?

Thankyou, great site! {Ed002's Note - The statement made it clear the search starts now - it is impossible to predict how long this will take.}

 

 

16 May 2012 18:35:37
Before people start tearing in to FSG, the real culprits have been the players. They are the ones that have left Kenny down. I hope they are a now a little nervous about their futures under a new boss. I doubt it however.

I thought Kenny should probably go on balance, but hearing the news still made me feel sick. I hope FSG know what they are doing. It is going to be a big ask to get top 4 next season with the current squad. Chelsea will spend big in the summer as will utd and city.

Anyway a very very sad day for all Liverpool supporters and I wish Kenny and his family well and hope it leaves no bitterness. He is still a great man and will always be the King.

Great post

The Liver Bird

Best post of the day. Captures it all perfectly.
Red first & last

I agree - excellent and succinct post.

 

 

16 May 2012 18:34:50
Gutted but not really surprised at the dismissal of Kenny. I thought another year would have seen an improvement.

So with no Manager or DoF for the summer who will be strengthening the club? They must have someone in mind. I think Rafa just smacks of going back again. Need to start looking forward and what happens next year if we don't get Champs league spot, does that manager get sacked as well. Need stability and continuity, not a yearly manager merry go round.

Gazza

 

 

16 May 2012 18:34:19
i would just like to thank king kenny for the joy of giving us our 1st trophy in 6years, i was there when he made his debut at boro 1977 and he scored to he was magic as a player and as a manager and i will allways cherish the good times. Thank you once again kenny. hope the owners choose the right man.

 

 

16 May 2012 18:34:15
Kenny Dalglish won in one 's**t' season the same amount of cups Harry Redknapp has won in 30 years & more than Moyes has won in a decade!

Just read this and thought how true!

YNWA jns

Did moyes spend 100mil + ?

Do not cling to that ,we were rubbish , results do not lie , look at the position we finished in and the results since christmas.good luck fenway and all at lfc.
red mick tag

 

 

16 May 2012 18:34:14
A Sad day for LFC.

still a legend Kenny and you always will be..YNWA

LD

 

 

16 May 2012 18:33:41
If it all goes wrong again and the New Manager has to be sacked for the good of the Club? Which could happen. Just can't see us hitting the ground running next Season no matter who the Manager is.
So who will we blame if were languishing halfway down the league.
FSG had better get the cheque book out if they want Champions League. We won't get on the cheap.
Kenny's already tried that?
Look out FSG If all goes wrong :(:(:(:(:(:(
kidmillions

I think FSG has realosed it has bitten off more than it can chew, I wouldn't be suprised to see them going into partnership with Arab money

 

 

16 May 2012 18:32:36
Kenny you will always be a LFC LEGEND ! No one can take that away from you YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 18:31:39
King Kenny YNWA.
Time to look to the future now. No individual is bigger than this club.
We need a manager now with big club experience. With respect to Martinez, I don't think he is the answer.

The Liver Bird

 

 

16 May 2012 18:31:07
Absolutely gutted about Kenny getting sacked. I thought he deserved more time, but if FSG felt the need for a change then i trust they are doing it for the best intentions of the club. Hopefully a replacement is sought as soon as possible. My first choice would have to be Jurgen Klopp.
One last thing is a big thank you to Kenny for everything he has done for the club and the people of liverpool.

DanLFC

Agree with you 100%

 

 

16 May 2012 18:31:02
I just hope they replace him with a top top manager..

Cheers

Macca

You don't have any idea then macca? If you had the choice who would you go for realisticly?

Macca, I suppose Luis will be gone as well? Singred

Thanks Steve! :)

I think they will, Klopp? Bielsa?
Surely Rafa's not the answer?

But Macca FSG seem like clueless skinflints!
So I expect some dumb solution like AVB or Martinez then further decline.

Macca do you have faith in FSG?

Macca,

Who would be your choice to follow on from the King?

Dirks Engine Room

Kloop mourinho bielsa guardiola

Pep would be my first choice though

Keep up the good work mate. i hope the rumour that kenny refused to sell luis suarez this summer isn't true and put the owners into a back me or sack me decision over this?
i honestly believe that kenny being sacked indicates there was a disagreement involved. the owners would have much preferred to of had kenny step down mutually and with some dignity.

They are obviously serious, so dont feel alot of the names being mentioned are sufficient. They need to break the bank and try and get Pep Guardiola in. He is available, will continue to play the attacking football we have seen in the last 18 months, will command respect and can certainly attract players. I fear he is serious about a 12 month rest though, and Chelski will offer him 10 mil a year.

 

 

16 May 2012 18:30:07
Feels like the club is in an absolute mess again. Stepped back 2 years in the space of a few hours. The lowest of lows will come if we make any signings without a manager in place, a bad way to go.

-Shane.

Considering Dalglish was brought in to "steady the ship", it feels like we're all in the life rafts at the moment !
The Real KB

 

 

16 May 2012 18:29:40
Guys do you know who we should have as manager Sammy Lee!!
He's fat, he's round
he's bouncing on the the ground
Sammy Lee,Sammy Lee
Thats who we really need.
No joke!!

 

 

16 May 2012 18:29:23
How can we have a Wigan manager who fights for the bottom 4 every year

Exactly what u need - thats the end of the table you're closer to so good thinking to bring in an old hand lol

On the bright side, if we do get martinez he will probably bring all his bosman players with him.... diame ect... and maybe get mccarthy and al habsi, top top players :D pmsfl

It hyas to be rafa in my opion. Has unfinished business with the club and with the money he has craved for years, he will turn us into world beaters again!

 

 

16 May 2012 18:27:11
i think we need a european manager, as the British managers seem to target British players who most of the time are poor. We need to look outside the premier league and away from the likes of wigans, sunderlands, fulhams etc players, and target the quality. I'm not saying we should be in for the super stars but there are MANY really great players out there playing for poorer clubs or with little known interest in them.

RDR

 

 

16 May 2012 18:24:30
With Daglish Leaving Roberto Marinez is 6/5 Favourite and Benitez 2/1
Get Rafa back !!

 

 

16 May 2012 18:23:30
Biggest mistake Liverpool have made, These yonks don't have a clue , all they had to do was build on and add more players now it's back to 1st base.

So right

I agree with ur post.
(its yank by the way, not yonk...lol)
kenny could have done really well next season. sad to see him go.
YNWA.
UNLCE ZAINY BEAR

 

 

16 May 2012 18:11:34
Martinez is not what we need what we need is a proven winner not someone who wins the last four or five games every season also someone who can attract top players from abroad constant winning mentality is only good enough for lfc the new manager must at least be better than we already had otherwise don't change some of the names mentioned would not lace kennys boots let's bring in a proven winner hope your reading this f s g get us a top top manager and give him a few pounds go on make yourself legends

 

 

16 May 2012 18:11:23

I have been told that there are going to be big big changes at the end of the season..

Does this mean the end for Kenny?

Are the owners going to start flexing there muscles?

Cheers

Macca

posted on the 22nd april, bang on macca.

long live the lion king, YNWA.

Well he said he is staying and asked if its the end of Kenny, obviously gonna be right either way I rather believe someone being consistent and right like Ed002 for example always said she believed he will go and never changed the opinion

He also said 2 days ago he would be staying

 

 

16 May 2012 18:11:14
If Rafa was to return, does anyone think that he would start off by giving a couple of facts?

Rafa's Purple Goatie

Ye fact one downing is crap fact two pepe had better get his finger out fact three told you lucas was going to be a great player for us fact

 

 

16 May 2012 18:09:58
Absolutely gutted..
We've turned into a poor version of Chelsea. Sacking managers after just one season incharge.

Well now we can get an inexperienced manager from the prem who has little experience with a team like Liverpool, then next season he will be sacked too. Or he will get a RM and ST and we will reach top4 and the new manager will get all the praise when infact I believe in every single signing KD has made.

I hope Rafa doesn't return, but if he does I will give him my full support, as any Liverpool manager. He was a cup manager who preferred CL to winning the prem.

I just hope the new manager is worth sacking KD for. He needs to be world class.

2 managers and you've only been here 2 years FSG.. Not looking like the owners you made out to be.

A gutted TIZER RED

Totally agree.

One manager..... FSG did not employ roy... they sacked him and quite rightly too.

The FACT is, any other manager would have been sacked for this seasons league record and I salute the decision the board have taken. KK is and always be the main man and deffo steadied a very rocky ship. But 8th place, regardless of how many goals we could/should have scored last season is a terrible return on 100M spent.

I do think his signings will come good, just ashame they took so long to find their feet.

Come home Rafa, get the job done this time son!

Seems like we have another 2 yanks who know nothing about football and want to ruin this great club. Gutted about KK sacking - the squad just needed a bit of fine tuning over the summer with 2 strikers to be bought it. Now whoever comes in will do their own rebuilding job. Cannot believe that names like Martinez are being touted. Can anyone really believe him, or someone of his calibre is the man to take this great club forward, and that KK would not have been better over the next 2-3 years. Names like Guardiola will not come, and USA favourites like Klinsmann are too risky - he's got no experience of managing in England. Now that we have to sign a new manager it should be Capello. He can build the squad and knows the English players in the team well. Very few coaches have how proven track record.

 

 

16 May 2012 18:08:05
Reports coming out that Kenny Dalglish's backing for Luis Suarez is the reason that he has been sacked.

It's reported that it was agreed between FSG (Henry) and Dalglish that Suarez would be sold in the summer. FSG are very unhappy that his abuse of Patrice Evra nearly cost FSG/Liverpool over 252 million in endorsements and sponsorships

During his meeting in Boston, Dalglish went back on his word to sell Luis Suarez and told John Henry to either ''back me or sack me''

Luis Suarez will be sold this summer

E. Dunphy

Didn't Fergie do well with his little stunt.

If Suarez is sold I don't think it will have anything to do with the Evra affair ... it will be purely a financial decision, one for mine that will indicate the owners real intent.

Suarez is the clubs most sellable asset ...fine sell him, but if the owners think they will be able to replace a player of his quality without spending like for like money then they certainly haven't learnt anything about Football.

The owners claim they want to return us to our glory days, to do that the club need players of Suarez's ability on the pitch, selling him for mine would be a major step backwards.
{Ed002's Note - Rubbish. If he is sold it will be for the reasons I have explained over recent months.}

Nice to see that FSG have their priorities sorted.

Sounds true to me

 

 

16 May 2012 17:55:00
Hi Eds can any of you shed any light on who will be advising the owners at this time with no DOF or manager who will they turn to there was talk cruyff coming in i know i am dreamin but wat the chances of him comin and convincing pep to follow

Irish Red

p.s Kenny thanx for everything pity it didnt work out YNWA {Ed002's Note - Remote and I don't know about the advice.}

 

 

16 May 2012 17:49:50
hey eds do you think there will be more people sacked from their roles at LFC during? if so who do you think or know will be leaving?

thanks {Ed002's Note - I think it is pretty much done now.}

 

 

16 May 2012 16:57:26
Looks like ED002 was bang on the money. Do you expect the DOF to be appointed before the Manager? {Ed002's Note - I doubt the order is important - the people are.}

 

 

16 May 2012 18:14:45
Wrong decision in my humble opinion ! Here we go for another spate of uncertainty and instability ! KK was and is a brave man for having taken the job in the first place and putting his reputation on the line ! All those fickle fans that have been calling for his head shame on you all ! He should have been given one more season....genuinely dissapointed ! Tobiwan

 

 

16 May 2012 18:14:29
Hi ed
My question is do you think with us getting a new manager the younger players such as sterling suso etc will have less chance of getting first team football.

Will the owners want to get rid of Suarez aswell. It would be a major step back in my opinion

JFT96

 

 

16 May 2012 18:14:13
I feel bad for KK but don't understand the posts that he should have been given another year because "he loves the club" so do I can have a crack at manager then?

 

 

16 May 2012 18:13:16
Only time will tell if this was the right decision by the owners. I really thought Dalglish would do a lot better next season. Hopefully the owners had shortlist of managers that are better than Dalglish on the list before sacking him. Will be disappointed if we get Martinez, lambert, rogers etc. Too risky. If they don't get the results, they won't even last a whole season (considering how some of our fans have reacted to Dalglish). If we can't get some of the proven quality managers, then Benitez is the best option.

Tekneek

I would like either Low, Bielsa or Klopp

YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 18:12:54
Old fashioned
2 finals are trumped by 4th
RIP all Cup Comps, wembley outings!
Sad
Premier League will soon go for a Euro-North American League and coming 3rd 4th is a success, they'll start giving medals for it...
A sad PistolPete

Days like these make me hate football.

Totally agree Pistol Pete!

I have been saying for years that the monetary benefits of obtaining a Champions League place has lowered the true desire of teams, it is breeding an attitude of inferiority - finishing fourth is OK we get a Champions League spot!

Years ago finishing fourth meant didley squat, it meant FAILURE! in some quarters now finishing fourth is almost greeted with as much joy and rapture as actually winning the title ...just like school exams/results, etc, the bar has been lowered, and unfortunately so has the aspirations of many clubs ... stuff aiming for fourth lets aim for the top!

 

 

16 May 2012 18:20:14
Glen Johnson is blaming the Post for not getting in Champions League...

...looks like FSG should have done something about them instead then!

I don't do Twitter but If I did I think it would be #poorexcuse

 

 

16 May 2012 18:19:07
I know its Twitter, but Balague is a friend of Rafa's.

Guillem Balague @GuillemBalague
About Rafa. There is no news whatsoever to tell. Nothing has changed with him in regards to Liverpool in the last weeks. Nothing to report.

JP

 

 

16 May 2012 18:18:41
Maccabee has gone quiet hope he's not sacked haha

 

 

16 May 2012 18:18:05
Well all i can say is lets begin the FSG era

Does anyone else all of a sudden have a panicky feeling of impending doom?

I hope i'm wrong.

 

 

16 May 2012 18:17:48
How come when you go to the jobs part of the club website the managers position isn't advertised? I was gonna throw my CV in, with the contacts I have and the incredible impression of Bill Paisly I do I'd be a dead cert.

Samson Rasher

 

 

16 May 2012 18:17:14
I suppose we may as well get Oscar Tabarez. At least that way we may keep Luis

Chris in Tamworth

 

 

16 May 2012 18:17:04
have the players said anything about kk? are they happy or sad

 

 

16 May 2012 18:16:57
we are the laughing stock of prem at moment we are not gonna sign anyone this year.as i said last year we have wasted good money on poor players this will haunt us for years .kuyt been having a dig at kenny before he got sack so all is not well.our defense is all over the place caragger gotta go and riena hes gonna move on defo .the futures carroll adams henderson will last one out turn light off 1 very dissilutioned red

 

 

16 May 2012 18:12:30
Surely martinez is not the answer just keeping a team in premier league no doubt with low budget but as was reported on sky sports and on bbc football that surely it needs to be a world class or very experienced manager and not a rookie. Martinez had no ecpereience at a big club woukd be a huge gamble. If he did get job proves one thing... They dont want new manager spending much because martinez gas always been toght budgeted he isnt suddenly going to get 50m. So not martinez please.. Iv posted before abouy sigbings and recently stated dalglish would go on wedensday when he left america with no assurances. I believe it will be between rafa benitez or frank rijksd

I hope it's not Rafa, he's had his chance and couldn't do it. We need a good quality manager but not Rafa.

Knowing FSG it will be a manager from prem but I'm hoping it's fabio copello. Defensive boring football but gets results.

TIZER RED

 

 

16 May 2012 18:12:22
allrite ed001 who would be your choice for the job {Ed001's Note - Bielsa.}

Argee with you ed001, Jord

Do you not rate Jurgen Khlopp (excuse the spelling) more so, me personally I would enjoy both managers as that have a great style of football

Kind regards

The southern red

Ed001,

When we were looking for a successor to Benitez, I remember you longing for Bielsa so often...

Any chances this would happen this time?

He is man of principles...I hate to say this but it looks like he is in the middle of a project atm.....The only chance would be if bilbao were to sell 2-3 players....But that too looks so unlikely...

LiverBird {Ed001's Note - I really can't see us getting him, but I am still begging FSG to try!}

Hi ed001, is it true that FSG will only look at candidates that are already fluent in english

RED4lifeNOTjust4XMAS {Ed001's Note - that was one of the criteria last time round, so it would be safe to assume so. I just hope that Bielsa can speak English if so!}

Bielsa even hates the s*n newspaper. Fact
kopfiend 1978 ynwa

 

 

16 May 2012 18:12:13
Bye KK.
Sad to see it and I feel maybe they should have kept him on at least until January.
Criticism for the signings of Caroll and Hendo go unjustified. In my honest opinion its a project that KK was working on and how many millions could we expect to spend over the next 4-5 years on players who won't cut it in the prem. Yes we paid over the odds for Caroll but with everyone aware of the £50mil placed in our bank from chelski

FSG don't know what they are doing , they have sacked most of the backroom staff, and now Steve Keen has resigned. They are ripping the heart and soul out of the club, and making us a laughing stock. most of the people sacked are staff that were appointed by them just 18 months ago, now they have got to rebuid the coaching and managerial staff.They haven't a clue. Obviously they will put some of the blame on the Suerez affair, but they could have easily sorted that out when it happened.Whoever is advising them needs sacking, I wouldn't be suprised if Klinsman is our next manager.

Bobbinred

 

 

16 May 2012 18:09:05
If Chelsea don't give him the job is it possible we could get Di matteo?

Please no. Don't be fooled into thinking he's got anything to do with Chelsea's upturn in form

Chris in Tamworth

 

 

16 May 2012 18:07:53
Thank you Kenny for all you have done, in my opinion you deserved much more than the owners have given you.

Feel sorry for the new manager if so called fans can turn against KK, what chance does any1 new have?

 

 

16 May 2012 18:07:04
Well didnt think that was gonna happen but football seems to surprise more and more these days ,oh well:

hiddink
klopp
rijkard

p.s..... thanks kenny for all your efforts

IBIMO

 

 

16 May 2012 18:06:32
ed, who would be your prefered choice for the new vacancy, and do you honestly believe FSG will make the correct decision this time? {Ed019's Note - I would take AVB, Klopp or Bielsa if possible}

 

 

16 May 2012 18:06:10
we sack KK which personally im glad about, but Plse NO i think Martinez is worse than KK, i would rather we bring back Rafa than Martinez,PLSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FSG if u are reading these posts get in someone who is quality

Dechamps
Rykjard
Emery
god forbid even Ranieri

anyone but Martinez he will get us relegated then we will be the laughing stock of the UNIVERSE not just on Merseyside

Midland Red

Deschamps? really? hes had a crap season in the french league

 

 

16 May 2012 17:55:05
has Steve Clarke and Ian Ayre left the club to?

Tom Red {Ed019's Note - Yep}

 

 

16 May 2012 17:55:04
So kenny's gone, Steve Clarke has resigned and Ayre gone too?

No DoF, comms officer, sports science head...anyone left?

dmedly

Oh...and no new stadium!

dmedly

 

 

16 May 2012 17:54:26
Eds does this change who we are hoping to buy in the transfer market? Or maybe who we will sell?

Cheers {Ed019's Note - Depends}

 

 

16 May 2012 17:38:09
Eds is it true that steve clarke and ian ayre have also left the club ? {Ed019's Note - Seems it}

 

 

16 May 2012 18:07:48
How about Rafa as Director of Football with a younger manager being m?mentored by hi

Rafa is a clown , last person we need rite now

 

 

16 May 2012 17:46:50
World class manager like guardiola or mourinho if not possible then I wouldn't mind rodolfo barrel getting the job

 

 

16 May 2012 17:46:47
Just to remind those who questioned my post yesterday when I said with conviction that he would be gone within 24-48 hours.

He was ALWAYS going to be gone. ALWAYS. I explained why. There was no way he would be kept on.

I'm surprised that people are so shocked and angry.

I'm also relieved for Kenny in a way - he doesn't look too healthy in recent times.

It's a far cry from when he turned up from his holiday to save us.

He will always be the King.

I'm excited about the future - I hope we get a young boss who can build a dynasty.

I feel a younger manager would be afforded more time to impose his vision of an LFC team by our fans.

Thanks btw Kenny. Always the King - hope to see you at Anfield in the future with that big smile lighting up the place and the team doing well.

So who will it be?

Martinez looking likely - unproven imo.

Rafa's still about - Personally, I hope not.

AVB - Given time I feel he could have transformed Chelsea. A lot to prove.

Rodgers - Unproven imo.

Guardiola - You'd be guaranteed we enquired about him, who wouldn't? - but we're dreaming.

Or the crazy outside bet.....

Klinsmann. (Cos they're American?!)

Whoever it is - A new project begins - A clean slate for everyone - I can't wait to see what happens. Exciting times. I'm behind whoever it is.

We need more than 52 points in the league next year, we would all agree any less than that would be shocking.

The new boss will draw some comfort from that - expectations shouldn't be too high.

Here's to the future.

BJH YNWA.

One of the first things FSG said was they would do was listen to the fans, well they have A VAST MINORITY I no longer have trust in FSG

'I'm behind whoever it is' Sure, you have to get behind him to stab him! Pah! This coming from someone who spoke for Kenny in Jan, then turned against him!

I'm quite sure the same rubbish will come out of your mouth again 3 weeks into the new season. FFS, please drop the 'YNWA' it doesn't befit you Singred

Expectations should be CL football or get sacked.
I can see us going through some managers over the next five years.
TIZER RED

Things have changed since January Singred.
Maybe you missed that.

BJH YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 17:46:35
Absolutely gutted.
What about Suarez now ?
The Real KB

KB Mate you have to wonder how much of it was down to suarez situation that he created.
I hate that player for taking my LFC idol and legend for ride.
He fooled Kenny..
I will be the first to say I did not like Kenny as manager nut he is a LFC legend and there are tears in my eyes.

A hero has taken a fallen because of this spoiled brats who play for us who do not value the crest..
I wanted him gone but I am so sad and just so down..
This next appointment as manager will be the most important in History of club.

Kenny you will never walk alone..

We all reds Love you so much and you are our hero..

Red Indian

Gutted too KB, shambles.
It's about sponsors, not football, so Suarez will be gone too I fear.
Henry needs a big appointment and a few decent signings to restore any f

Sorry posted by accident ... restore any faith in them.
Gutted Red Derry.

Reckon Suarez is a gonna!

dmedly

The Suarez thing was very damaging mate. Ed002 called it correct, and I believe that he could well be sold on.
I am / was a Kenny fan but he did get that whole matter wrong. It must have looked disastrous from one the other side of the Atlantic.
The Real KB

 

 

16 May 2012 17:46:02
I am devasted but not entirely suprised.....KK's league results really let him down as did a lot of the teams individual performaces, so I dont think he will be the only person leaving the club. I think a lot of the mediocre players will be bulleted.
But what I really hate more anything is the s**t the owners put out...........it wasnt an easy decision, kennys done what he can blah blah blah.....it gets right on my t**ts and if thats not bad enough MARTINEZ..........I dont f****ing think so.........rant over....thanks eds

 

 

16 May 2012 17:46:01
do we have a chance of getting mourinho ir hiddink or do you think we will get stuck with relegation level martinez {Ed002's Note - No Mourinho or Hiddink.}

 

 

16 May 2012 17:46:00
Eds do you know if Clarke still has a job with us? {Ed002's Note - He has left.}

 

 

16 May 2012 17:45:56
For all of us who give our information about Kenny getting the sack yesterday and got slated, take a bow and have a smug grin on your faces
Lpoolkris

Don't take enjoyment out of today's decision but in the eyes of some it is the best for the club. People who wanted Kenny out still love the club as much as those who wanted him to stay. Respect their opinion, they're not gloating so don't slag em off for having the opposite point of view.

Yeah cause its so f*&^king good to laugh at other peoples misfortune! A little respect isnt too much to ask is it?

 

 

16 May 2012 17:39:39
Hello Eds,
it fair to say "many thanks KK" for all of hard work he's done during last 18 months. He's the legend, he'll always be! It was clearly coming after the FA Cup was lost and with poor league campaign. I don't know who'll take over but I hope it won't be Martinez or AVB. Let's hope for Mo, Pepe or Klopp. Whoever it is, a few players may be on their way. Well, if LFC finishes in the top three next season I don't care who's the manager and what the transfer policy will be in the next few weeks.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:59:48
Ludicrous decision in my humble opinion.
Yes a poor season but who takes over? Most of the names I see linked wont be good enough and now anyone who fails in a season will be under pressure. Sounds like chelsea
The owners should have been thinking about the long game

Chris in Tamworth

Chris if you remember few days back we discussed how it was important that kenny got 1 more season so that who ever follows does not have his shadows so yes this decision is surprising.
But ed is spot on They just could not back kenny this season financially like last because they did not trust him with money so thats why they are going after new man and I think they will spend big just my gut feeling..
What you think Ed?

Red Indian

 

 

16 May 2012 17:58:18
I saw Kenny leaving Melwood and I am sure I saw a Jay Spearing stuffed in the box, that he put in his boot,so there could be some good news after all lads.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:58:17
I'm gutted but not surprised. Lots of people/fans have been saying for months now, that Kenny could go. The only thing that supprises me is, he didn't walk.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

I agree, he must have realised it wasn't working out and could have made a dignified exit.

He is pretty stubborn though

 

 

16 May 2012 17:58:16
Would the last one to leave Anfield, please turn off the lights.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:57:57
In the last 3 seasons Matinez' Wigan sides have conceded 60 goals. No trophies and no Europe. Liverpool have now had 3 Managers in 2 years. A fourth come the start of next season. If any one has underachieved its FSG by appointing the wrong men. Liverpool need a BIG name to take over and time given to sort out this mess. With us having another 25 million from new kit sponsor the new manager should get at least 50 million this summer.

What "wrong men"? FSG have appointed one manager so far, and they did it to appease the fans. Little early to start pointing fingers at them, I think.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:57:20
he has been sacked due to league pos and his handling of the suarez affair

The Surez affair is just an excuse. They could have terminated Surez's contract after it happened, but they didn't
Bobbinred

AND very prickly behaviour in every interview no matter what the question

Puzzled

 

 

16 May 2012 17:57:13
With the position we are in now, it will be very difficult to attract players. We need a big name manager who can do this.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:55:50
Sad to see Kenny's reign end like this, he has been and always will be a true legend. Best player I have ever seen wear the Liverpool Jersey and built the best liverpool team I have ever seen during his first reign as manager back in the second half of the 80's, pity he could'nt do it second time round as I really wanted him to succeed. I wish him all the best in whatever he does next and he will always be a legend and my favourite Liverpool player of all time.

I really hope that FSG don't pick Martinez as Kenny's replacement as for me he is not an improvement, if they are going to pick someone who is not a top top manager then I would suggest maybe giving Phil Thompson a shot at the managers role as he did quite well filling in for Houllier when he had his heart attack and he absolutely love's the club and I think he would also be tough enough to make the decisions to move Carra on and possibly gerrard too as stevie for me has not been the same player for at least 3 seasons now and takes too long to recover from injury. No doubting Gerrard has been a loyal and great servant to the club but we all need to get past our sentimentality and see that his best years are over and it's time to look to the future, again gerrerd will be a liverpool legend but all legends have to come to an end sometime.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:55:44
Well all I can say is that I am looking forward to the back lash the American owner are going to get from there actions. Does the phrase progress is a slow process not translate over there?! Well with all the talk of boycotting Liverpool dc and rallies being arganised as we speak..... It's going to be fun to see there faces. Long live the king

True Liverpool fan right there... (sarcasm) MIKEYRED

Let me know when the rallies are there are loads of us who'll be there. Absolute disgrace. Bring all these blue nose, press loving whinging gets of supposed liverpool fans too. We can sort them out and get them out of our club too..

 

 

16 May 2012 18:04:12
Eds,
Any chance whatsoever that Mr Jamie Carragher might me approached about the possibility of working as part of the staffing team? Perhaps, even as a player-manager? He has a lot of knowledge about not only Liverpool, but the football in general, he is smarter than many might think! He may need a big name DoF to attract any big names, but then surely the name 'Liverpool Football Club' attracts enough talent anyway?! It's a longshot, I know but stranger things have happened, most recently Stewart Downing making the Euros!

CHEERS! {Ed019's Note - I don't think so, but you never know}

 

 

16 May 2012 18:02:59
To those who find Kenny's leaving to be 'cut-throat' etc.

Kenny said -

"Whilst I am obviously disappointed to be leaving the football club, I can say that the matter has been handled by the owners and all concerned in an honourable, respectful and dignified way and reflects on the quality of the people involved and their continued desire to move the football club forward in the same way as when they arrived here."

So there you go. The decision to part ways seems to have been amicable. These things happen.

BJH YNWA.

 

 

16 May 2012 18:02:47
I'm gutted about Kenny. Putting aside what he means to us all as a legend, you've got to look at where we're up to now. This season we have absolutely murdered teams with possession, and we were one or two players away from being a really good side.

If we'd made a couple of key purchases this summer, it would have been exciting again for next season. Now, you would imagine that we'll lose the progress we've made and the team will be ripped apart and rebuilt. Another year of waiting for progress then...

Brian YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 18:01:33
Ed wot do u reckon rijkaard being next manager got told weeks ago this was gunner happen I told ya first

Not going to happen, he partakes in the recreational usage, which is unacceptable to FSG.

-Red Socks

 

 

16 May 2012 18:01:27
They fired Kenny! those bas!#@%

this will never go old :)

 

 

16 May 2012 18:01:20
Has there been any mention of Kenny being moved upstairs in the club?

And also, does this sacking count as an assist for Downing this season?

Thoughtful Red

 

 

16 May 2012 18:01:17
We thought they came to save us, now they have destroyed us.
YANKS OUT!

Everton fan or under 10

 

 

16 May 2012 18:00:14
I hate to say it but kenny should have walked and let the club move on in instead he waited to be sacked.Results not good enough and to be honest he wasn't good enough hope that top class manager with European experience.MATTYLFC

 

 

16 May 2012 17:55:07
I was one to say half way through the season that Kenny simply isn't good enough to be manager after 10 years out of the job,but now we are linked with the likes of Martinez,Rodgers and Lambert?What was the point in sacking Kenny if all we are going to replace him with is managers that have only managed clubs in the bottom half,only managed in the EPL for one season and ones that fight relegation season after season,its ridiculous!

JerryRed

Yes but ARE we linked with these people? could just be hacks throwing names about

Puzzlede

 

 

16 May 2012 17:25:19
Just want to say good job, Ed002. You have been right for months about Kenny. Quietly consistent.

Ed002 are you part of the FSG consortium and if so how are you fixed for a few quid

Puzzled {Ed002's Note - I could lend you a tenner if you need it.}

 

 

16 May 2012 17:52:13
Does this count as Downings first assist of the season then?

If I have to read this gag one more time...ENUFF!!!

 

 

16 May 2012 17:51:37
Hes Gone! breaking news sky.Statements from all parties.Sad,great player.Great passion and dignity for club.Sadly think correct decision.Players need to have long look at themselves.However they didnt appear motivated.A man of top quality has to come in to attract players.A few names mentioned are hardly that.Thanks Kenny your still a legend.And steadied the ship for a while

 

 

16 May 2012 17:51:18
gutted for kenny right now and even more gutted that we have too start from scratch again, with a new manager and new ideas. i personally think kenny was the man for the job..given time anyway, but i respect the owners decision and will back them fully. my only concern is they dont rush the decision, as in go for a manager with little experience at a big club (eg, martinez and rogers) not sure who id realy want. also i hope there is a role for steve clarke( UNLIKELY AS MANAGERS LIKE TOO PICK THERE OWN COACHES) he has worked wonders with skrtel and agger.
would like too hear your feedback guys.....
molbys mom {Ed001's Note - Clarke resigned.}

 

 

16 May 2012 17:50:25
Hi Ed,

Just wanted to say that although in some ways I think it was the right decision, I am still gutted Kenny has gone.

I believe the owners have done what they believe is right for the family of LFC and whoever they appoint as manager we should back all the way. LFC is and always has been bigger than one man.

To the people who have been slagging off Kenny on this and other sites, I hope you feel some sort of guilt or shame. Kenny came back to the club when we needed him and as Henry said "...he didnt ask to be manager, but came when we needed him...". He has stabilised the club, ready for the new man, but some of the comments I have read by a small minority, have made me feel ashamed to be a LFC supporter. Kenny is and always will be a legend at this club.

YWNA KK.

I personally would like either AVB or Guardiola (though i know that wont happen), with Txiki (spelling) as DOF.

SA (Please post in rumours page.)

 

 

16 May 2012 17:50:15
Thanks Kenny. You will always be my hero. Sorry it did not work out this time.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:50:05
am glad he was running are club to the ground i lost all respect for kenny

RED SIMON 123

 

 

16 May 2012 17:49:11
the manager i would like to see at liverpool is capello what are the chances eds? {Ed019's Note - dunno}

He cant even speak english . capello is a joke

 

 

16 May 2012 17:48:35
Hi Eds

Just passing on what Ive heard

But main FSG targets are

Klopp
Bielsa
Rangnick

Outside chance of Martinez/Rodgers/Benitez

Thanks

Mac

 

 

16 May 2012 17:47:58
yet again we are the laughing stock of the football world

WHY? .

 

 

16 May 2012 17:47:44
I really do hope that the americans do know what they are doing. Could either be a really bad decision or a good decision.

Roberto Martinez: They have to realise that Martinez is not good enough for this club! He has avoided relegation twice but apart from that what else has he done.

Brendan Rogers: I have to say that i like him, He makes the players play good football with a decent result at the end of it. I mean look at what he has done with a pretty average team, He has turned them into top notch players.

I think the option that most people hope they will take is the 'experienced manager'. Someone that has already won trophies and that we know he can do things with the club. Lead us back to champions league, and winning more trophies.

I think it is just to risky to go with someone like Martinez as we tried it with Roy and it was a big mistake. But we will see what happens. Sad to see Kenny go but he will always be a legend!

Long Live The King...

Big T

 

 

16 May 2012 17:44:31
Have Steve Clarke and Ian Ayre also left the club? Clarke will be a huge loss

RedSG {Ed001's Note - yes.}

Ha... poor Ian, the way you said that! :-)

 

 

16 May 2012 17:43:05
we need to get some that is a proven winning as the manager not someone that saves wigan just about.

we need to bring in the ajax manager knows top players like Christian Eriksen, Luuk de Jong in holland and would be able to persuade them to join us

I dont rate Luuk De Jong much. He is too similar to Kuyt and we need to move away from that kind of player. Eriksen is brilliant. And at £15m-ish would prove to be a sound investment. FSG style. Agree with that the manger should not be someone who just saves wigan lol

Kam

 

 

16 May 2012 17:42:50
omg another twist in the farce that is lfc what a circus you should get a big top over anfield......

 

 

16 May 2012 17:41:43
Have to say Im glad FSG have finally made the right decision and let Kenny go.

You have to admit if it was any other manager not one person wouldn't be asking for him to go. So it's only sentiment getting in people's way.

He was offered a different role but declined so that's his decision. Fair play to the owners as they didn't even have to do that.

Now I think the the owners have to at least consider Rafa.

Now before I barracked hear me out.

He still lives in the area.

He would not require a compensation payment of x amount of million. Unlike any other manager.

He has the ability to attract top quality players. In the past he brought us Nando, Xabi, Mascherano, Reina, Skrtle. Agger etc.
Yes he signed some duds but who doesn't. Firstly no one knew Aqualani would turn out the way he did. The only other one who was a big money signing who failed was Keane and rumour has it he wasn't Rafa's buy.

He is Liverpool through and through.

In his last few seasons he was operating on a shoestring and was still managing to get us top four (apart from his last).

He was even big enough to take on the owners (his own employers) for the sake of our club.

If we want to attract the likes of Muniain, Soldado, Susaeta etc then Rafa would attract these.

He won has won virtually all major honours as a club manager and still knows half the squad.

Bringing in an Lambert, Martinez or Rodgers would mean the club needing more years to develop. Rafa wouldn't require this. Plus the would require a compensation fee also. Let's face it Lambert and Rodgers have only done what Phil Brown did in his first season in prem, which was stay up.

So why would we want an inexperienced manager like that? We need a manager who can compete at the top level in CL & EPL.
Rafa ticks all the above boxes.

The likes of Mourinho or Guadiola are simply not gonna happen. They would want vast amounts of money to rebuild the squad, and that's in the unlikely event you convinced them to manage us.


If Rafa hadn't of been sacked all the seasons ago I think the likes of Mascherano and possibly Torres might still be there.

Jonesred {Ed001's Note - even though both Torres and Mash were trying to leave while Rafa was in charge? Deluded mate, sorry, but you are. He lost his attraction to top players when he lost the plot with us, then went on to destroy an all conquering Inter side within a few months of taking over.}

'If Rafa hadn't of been sacked all the seasons ago I think the likes of Mascherano and possibly Torres might still be there' LOL funniest line I read today Singred

Ed, the Inter one is unfair.....

He wasnt allowed to bring any player in....Coutinho was the only one in after a loan period with some club....

Milito and Maicon were awfully out of form during his tenure....

Plus Balotelli had been sold and the squad in general was old......

But as far as Liverpool is concerned, i am split.......My heart says YES but my head says NO....

These owners will again ruin our dreams and malign the reputation of another Liverpool Great.....

And the football wont be as good as it was under Kenny.....

Sad to be a liverpool supporter today.....

I am feeling so so so very sick.....

I know you are old school and will be hurting for Kenny...Some how the actions of the owners, over the past 2-3 months, doesnt feel right....

LiverBird

Aside from your last point gr8 post i agree huge fan of rafa love to seem back sad to see clarke go tho felt he shud have been kept on

Totally agree on being able to bring in the names but i dont think he the man for the job anymore the way he handled keane he had good potential for liverpool and rafa through stubbornness of it not being his signing but the owners dropped him undeserving i also recon it was this stubbornness that cost us our opportunity at winning the league, to many 70th subs when we where desperate for a change we conceded quite alot of goals from set pieces that season that season more than any other club through zonal marking its safe to while rafa was in charge every one of us held our heads in our hands when we conceded a corner i think he is a great manager but his stubbornness ruins him its good too be stubborn but not to a point where it blinds you

Rafa lives locally and would be cheap. I hope these aren't part of the selection criteria.

To ED001

How am I deluded ? Fair play I was unaware (but probably should have) about Torres wanting out, but I think Masch would have stayed.

At what point are you claiming Rafa lost the plot? Not being funny just wondering. I wouldnt say he lost the plot.

I'd say he felt pressured more times than others, but that's understandable considering the circumstances.

I know for certain Pep and Jose aren't coming, and I definitely don't want Martinez, Rodgers or Lambert.

I know there is many more managers in the world than these, but when he would cost us nothing in compensation I see it as a viable option.

I also believe he would be the type of manager who could attract us the likes of Muniain, Susaeta, Soldado etc.

By saying he can't attract top players anymore is completely wrong. He is still a highly regarded manager in Europe.

Our academy's stars (apart from this seasons buys) were bought by Rafa. He was responsible for the likes of Suso, Sterling and Silva to name a few.

Your last comment regarding his tenure at Inter was completely deluded as you say.
He was stuck with a very old squad and allowed to make virtually no changes.

Some of them players were way out of form during his spell there (Maicon being one).

Jonesred {Ed001's Note - you are deluded into believing Rafa and his mouthpiece Balague, he failed miserably and people still masturbate over his decimation of our club. Mash was more desperate to leave than Torres, no way he would have stayed. Rafa lost the plot when he got rid of Pako. From then on he was never the same and that was why he failed at Inter, he has no man-management skills, Pako was his buffer. Bit like Uncle Joe Fagan used to be in the old days.}

I think the point is its an added bonus.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:41:43
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE NOT MARTINEZ!!!! done great with a small club getting them out of the bottom three, we might aswell bring Roy back in that case. If FSG are serious about the club then bring us a serious name

 

 

16 May 2012 17:41:40
a disgrace

Marc

Please explain to me how its a disgrace.
kopfiend 1978 ynwa

 

 

16 May 2012 17:41:19
If anyone from Fenway reads this for the love of god do not try to appoint Martinez as manager

Valley Red

 

 

16 May 2012 17:39:56
We need one of the six listed:

Biesla
Guardiola
Rijkaard
Klopp
Laudrup
Martinez ( Got Wigan playing really impressive fast paced pass and move football with limited facilities , money and fan base)

If none of these are hired then it was a BIG mistake sacking the KING.

Tom.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:39:23
Gutted that KK has gone, should have been given one more season at least. I really hope FSG manage to retain him in some sort of capacity at board level otherwise we have lost more than just our manager.
In terms of replacement the two favourites with the bookies seem to be Martinez and Rafa.
Personally, between the two Id take Rafa over Martinez any day of the week, but neither fill me with confidence.
If Rafa bought back Pako & Valero with him maybe he'd have a chance but Martinez is never LFC quality.
From the other managers mentioned my list would have to be in the following order
Mourinho
Guardiola
Klopp
Van Gaal
Capello

9Red

Got to add Hiddink and Biesla to that
9Red

I notice a lot of posts say that Kenny should
have been given another year..BUT if the owners (who foot the bills) thought he had not made enough (or any) progress in the time and with the money available what sense would it be chancing another season?
If it still didn't work out we could be in an
even worse situation AND those who seem to support Dalglish rather than Liverpool fc would still say 'don't sack him'

Puzzled

 

 

16 May 2012 17:39:19
Everyone needs to remember we are Liverpool football club. Although im sad That Kenny is gone im sure he would accept no 1 person is bigger than the club! He is an for ever will be a legend and i thank for everything he has done for our great club, but the time is right to move on. I think FSG really have the best interests of the club at heart and they obviously see the importance of challenging for the top 4 places ideally that was going to be with the King but with only finishing 8th a decision needed to be made. I hope fans now dont turn on them! We need a manager who will now take us forward from the foundations Kenny has laid my choice would be Gaudiola (not gna happen) but AVB would be a more viable option

 

 

16 May 2012 17:38:42
ed's do you know if mourinho signed a new contract at madrid after winning the league? {Ed002's Note - Mourinho is still contracted to Madrid.}

Ed002,
You called all these right. Did you have info ?
How much are all these terminated contracts gonna cost the club ?
B hell.
And Suarez. I think he may be sold now too. PSG.
The Real KB {Ed003's Note - 002 is travelling at the moment }

 

 

16 May 2012 17:38:33
macca and eds who would you prefer to get for manager and how long do you reckon it will take? do you reckon we will see some players sold? cheers JJ

 

 

16 May 2012 17:38:32
Eds,

We need a winner in now - no point getting in a cheap option like Rodgers or Martinez. Albeit these are talented managers.

Hiddink, Mourinho, Rafa or Pep must surely be on the list?

Happy to hear comments?

Kosovo Joe

 

 

16 May 2012 17:37:33
Bye King Kenny Hello Royal Rafa?

 

 

16 May 2012 17:36:23
kenny i love you . don't be ashamed . you have done a great job as you tried your level best and you are the one who cares this club more than any one . you are a living liverpool legend and you will be in my heart till i die.take care and always be by our side .

collins

Are you joking? Kenny led us to our lowest Premier league position ever, our lowest goals and our worst home record in the PL. Also he totally misread the suarez debacle. He was a disaster.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:33:56
hi eds busy day today for u guys, i got 1 for u though, who do "you" think the next lfc manager will be?? cheers {Ed001's Note - honestly don't have a clue at all as of now.}

 

 

16 May 2012 17:32:14
Honestly, That we should sack a man like KING Kenny Dalglish after 18 months just makes me feel physically sick.
For me, Liverpool Football Club ceased to exist today. Yesterday is the last day of our great club.
What has replaced it is a corporate soulless American franchise. I will be insulted if they steal our anthem "You'll never walk alone" and brand the new club with it.
That song belongs with the old club, if the Americans want a song then they should use something like "Money (that's what I want)" by the Beatles.

Anyone who supports this American tripe has no right to sing "You'll Never Walk Alone", you're all pathetic suckers.

And your in the dark ages mate, football has moved on even if we like it or not. Now we try and move with it or shut up moaning about being left behind. We can't do both

Mike

Seriously. On your planet are the players still wearing tight shorts and got crown paints on their shirts? Maybe theirs a boot room too? Football is a big money business with no room for sentment and poor seasons. They gave KK a go and despite a bright start it became apparent he did not have a clue. He served up the worst season we have had in the PL. I for one would not give a carling cup who owned our club as long as we were winning. As you were!.

This is typical of how americans do things.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:29:21
Kenny Gone, Farewell to the KING! Thanks for your efforts Kenny and at the end of the day, you where let down by the players you and Commoli decided to buy, so with any luck, FSG will sanction the sale of the useless players ie. Carroll, Downing, Adam, with a slight possibility that Henderson could get better with time.
For me a proven manager is needed, not a Martinez who would be way out of his depth at LFC, but more along the lines of Capello or Guardiola( I know he wants to t*ss it off for a year) but with teh right offer they could both be tempted no doubt.
More importantly, we need a new manager in the next two weeks and if FSG are as concerned as they seem to be, they will already know who they want.
We need someone asap, to allow him to stamp his authority on the club and purchase the players we need to progress.
Sad times, but lets hope for a happier season next year, and lets hope FSG deliver a great new leader ! YOZLFC
By the way Eds, I did post last week an announcement would be on Friday 18th, I was 2 days out. Unai Emery is a possibility, along with Txixi Bergistirian as DOF, but no way a definite.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:28:28
Hey Ed's/anyone else. Just Wondering if the new manager who is appointed will be allowed a larger transfer budget (i know there will be no set budget anyway) so that he can get the players he wants, within reason of course.

I feel so sorry for the ed's a stiff whisky may be in order to keep your sanity in tact!

Cheers Daryll {Ed001's Note - without there being a budget, how can it be increased?}

I didn't explain that one very well. What i mean is that do you think they may be given the same sort of budget Kenny did when he took over the reigns! £80mill plus or do you think FSG will be much tighter with what the new manager has to spend.

Cheers
Daryll

 

 

16 May 2012 17:20:41
Hey eds. Maybe it sounds silly, but any chance for Pep Guardiola? He can attract quality players {Ed001's Note - I would think it will all depend on the DoF myself. Though I would back Dein to attract top men too.}

 

 

16 May 2012 17:19:54
Eds, do you think the transfer targets will be different when the new manager arrives? {Ed001's Note - of course they will be.}

 

 

16 May 2012 17:36:20
sorry to hear kk has gone 1 man for long term plan ANDRE V BOAS

 

 

16 May 2012 17:35:54
Like I said yesterday, I don't care who comes in. I can't see him doing well. Very disappointed KK hasn't been given more time. We're turning into a poorer version of Chelsea. Whoever comes in though will have my full support even though my only expectation for next season is to finish above Everton and in the top 10. Can't wait to see who we're sacking this time next year...
Capetownred

 

 

16 May 2012 17:35:36
Hi All

Here's my list for our great club!

Managers I want!
Jürgen Klopp
Joachim Löw
Pep ( Pep would be my first choice but he's taking a year off)
Marcelo Bielsa
Brendan Rodgers
Didier Deschamps
Rafa Benitez
AVB
Roberto Martinez

Managers I don't want!

Fabio Capello Or any other Italian
Big Sam

TheBA300

 

 

16 May 2012 17:34:42
Hi Ed is it true that Steve clark has resigned?
LeeWils {Ed001's Note - yes mate.}

 

 

16 May 2012 17:34:37
Clarke has walked, Kenny and Ayre sacked. Who is left??

 

 

16 May 2012 17:34:35
I can see the "Get out of our club" chant coming back very soon.

This is exactly why FSG did not want to hire Kenny in the first place.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:34:33
Guardiola for our next manager haha

no Martinez is the most likely at the moment, he is still a top manager in my opinion.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:34:30
Kenny Shouldn't have gone, another year was deserved. I would say bring Rafa back, but he isn't likely to get total control like last time. I would also fear for the future of Andy Carroll, who I think can be great, but worry isn't Rafa's 'type of player'.

I know Martinez is the front runner. I hope he and brendan rodgers don't get a look in. Rodgers i feel is an unknown entity, whilst i highly rate martinez, but i think he needs to prove himself at a higher level than a relegation fight.
Don't think AVB would be disastrous, but will need time, like kenny did.
It says 16/1 on sky bet. But what chances and in what circumstances do you reckon we could get mourinho? He could guarentee a level of success immediately as he could attract top players even without CL. Eds? Macca? Anyone? opinions. {Ed001's Note - none of them are right, in my opinion. I am begging for Bielsa!}

 

 

16 May 2012 17:34:29
This is completely the wrong decision to sack the king. He is the only man for the job and this will set us back 5 or so years. Kenny you are a legend and you deserve to be treated better than this. You have taken us to our
first trophy for 6 yrs. You saved us from a relegation fight.

What scares me is the managers being linked with us. Martinez is a good manager but I think its a little to soon for him but a new manager has to be a fresh manager with new ideas. Which for me counts out rafa. He is too political but I do respect him but I hope he is not the New man

I think the two I would like to considered are O Neill and klopp. We have got to think who would get the best out of our players now and for me its O neill. But I am really gutted that Kenny as gone. I think we could be lower than eighth next season.

Mighty reds

 

 

16 May 2012 17:34:06
Gutted for Kenny, has to be someone world class to ease the pain. Kenny you will always be a legend.

Gally

 

 

16 May 2012 17:33:56
Really gutted for Dalglish he deserved another season defiently
However life goes on and I'd go for Martin O'Neill

 

 

16 May 2012 17:33:43
txiki begiristain and Frank rijkaard all day long for me!

 

 

16 May 2012 17:33:36
Any chance of us getting mourinho? hes like 4th top in the odds? and he doesnt like the spain media and would prefer to be in england?

I think there is absolutely zero chance of Mourinho....how many times has he hinted (very strongly) for the Old Trafford job.He will know that if ever came to Liverpool he would NEVER get United

Puzzled

 

 

16 May 2012 17:33:31
i wish kenny well, i hoped that he would be given 1 more year. just to see what he can do with 1 more season. it did took mancini a few seasons to get to where he is. buts its already been done, and now we have to look forward, whatever the structure of our football club is going to be, i think it will be a better one. good people learn from their mistakes, n i think FSG would be thinking real hard who the next manager will be. Kenny has left, i guess most of the players linked will kinda have some changes eh? lets hope for a good summer, a good transfer window.

Kaizer

 

 

16 May 2012 17:32:19
Steve clarke has walked out in respect to KK

 

 

16 May 2012 17:27:54
whats the odds for next liverpool manager?? {Ed003's Note -Google it }

 

 

16 May 2012 17:32:03
with kenny gone now, what does that mean with luis suarez with faith kenny had in him

 

 

16 May 2012 17:31:27
how does downing get a call up for england with no assists this season.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:30:44
Eds who would be your preferred replacement for dalglish {Ed001's Note - Bielsa.}

 

 

16 May 2012 17:29:59
cannot beleive everyone saying were buying ,getting this player !think first we gotta find a manager to identify his transfer targets

 

 

16 May 2012 17:29:47
Seriously don't want Martinez do be manager hea good at Wigan but it may be the same as hodgoson we need proved manager personally I would like rafa back but I know everyone has different opinions

 

 

16 May 2012 17:29:46
Hi Ed,

Im sad to see Kenny go, however, logically, it is the right decision. Yes we won a trophy but the league is the bread and butter.

Anyway, am i right in thinking that the owners would prefer not to pay compensation for a manager, and their first choice would be to look at those who are out of work but have the criteria and "CV" to move the club forward? (Rafa(hypothetical), AVB, Guardiola(wishful), Riijkaard etc)

Thanks

Kam {Ed001's Note - no, they would prefer the best man they can get.}

Regardless of how much they might cost? i.e, would they spend £13m (AVB to Chelsea) if they felt that man wasthe right man? Klopp, Bielsa might command that compensation?

Thanks

Kam {Ed001's Note - I expect the new CEO (or whatever they call it now) to be appointed first, Dein being who I expect. Dein will only take the job if he can do it the way he thinks best. Dein will get the man he wants, whether he has to wait or pay money, he will get his man.}

 

 

16 May 2012 17:29:29
glad I put money on Martinez to be next lfc manager while the odds were still 7/1....only time will tell now

 

 

16 May 2012 17:29:07
Right decision to sack daglish but please no Martinez we need a top manager like kloop bielsa guardiola mourinho

I have respect for all the managers you name but tell me how giving Martinez the job would be so ridiculous when neither Klopp or Guardiola were high-profile managers before they arrived at a big club and proved themselves. Why can't people see that Martinez is not a one season wonder in the PL like Rodgers and Lambert. He's kept a tint club in the top flight for 3 seasons whilst losing his best players year in year out and at the same time playing attractive football, varying his tactics and then out-smarting every top club in the last few months. If he goes to a big European club and does well all the naysayers will be suddenly revering him. He's a good manager who is clearly going places - possibly Anfield.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:29:04
I said last week about my bird who works In a solicitors that kd was a gonner and it has happened now I don't claim to have any contacts just what I hear from being in and around the city I was told last night from someone with connections to rick parry that rafa was at anfield yesterday don't really believe it myself but it's what I was told

Kopman

 

 

16 May 2012 17:28:32
Just an observation but is Mark Lawrenson the most ill informed person in football? everything he says never comes true.

Laudrup for the new boss.

cobra

 

 

16 May 2012 17:27:28
Eds if FSG sack anymore back room staff you might have to start a new page!

Personally I think this move was a little too cut throat, I guess the assumption would be they already have another manager in mind else next season is pretty much a write-off from the go...

Lfcmatt

 

 

16 May 2012 17:19:38
Evening eds and fellow reds,where now for our club.have to be a big name for me the young mangers from prem being spoke about won't finish in top four.cheers psv

 

 

16 May 2012 17:18:37
eds, has clarke and keen left as well as dalglish, it doesn't say anything about it on the official sight. {Ed003's Note - Clarke has resigned}

 

 

16 May 2012 17:27:23
Absolutely gutted. I 100% believe KK was/is the man for us. I hope the replacement they have lined up is someone who really can push us up for Champions League, because if he's anything less then we should have stuck with KK! I feel like this creates such instability and also de-moralizes many of the players.

Interesting few weeks ahead then!
Any likely candidates Eds?

Thanks for any response, Ell. {Ed001's Note - I really don't know mate, sorry.}

 

 

16 May 2012 17:27:05
Ed(s), has Ian Ayre left aswell?!

No Head Coach, no DOF, no MD, no DOC and no Stadium plans...

Should we be concerned?

Stone YNWA. {Ed001's Note - not really about Ayre, I failed to see why he kept his job in the first place, other than being a Liverpool fan. If Dein has agreed to take that job, then we are in the best hands possible.}

Suarez is toast !
The Real KB

 

 

16 May 2012 17:26:31
Ok, so Kenny is now driving off into the sunset...... so where does that leave us now and for an incoming Manger what exactly what sort of prospect do they see LFC now?

We havent won a title for 20 years and just had our worst season with regards to our league position for many, many more..........Are we really a mid table team that may have to settle for a young up and coming manager like Martinez or Rodgers or are we still and exciting club that a Guardiola or a Hiddink type of manager would really want to come to??

Of course a young manager would see us as a club where they could build their profile but for many of our fans Kenny disappearing will heap even more pressure on these young shoulders but, just like Hodgson, if they do not step up to the mark very, very quickly there will be an element of our fans on their backs immediatly.

The whole of our structure over the past few weeks has, from the outside been ripped apart and who ever they choose, after Kennys return of 2 appearances at Wembley and a return to Europe are there, in reallity, many managers that would now want to join our club??

CaptainClacker

To be fair, I feel they have acted swiftly and decisively.

Had they waited a few weeks/months - people would ask why they waited so long.

BJH YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 17:26:29
Rafa as new manager with Carra as no 2.

RedGuern

 

 

16 May 2012 17:26:22
Absoulutly gutted.

He might have had a poor league campaign, and made some poor signings, but...

It doesnt take away the fact the this man loves the club, and no doubt he puts the club ahead of himself. He only does what he thinks helps the club, and its a shame that we wont get to see HIS team play together well gelled, and with more luck. I'm sure it would have come off.

And its not his fault that that the players that he expected to be playing well don't. I know he overpaid, but when they play well together, (the Arsenal game), they are quality.

You could imagine fergie laughing his ass off

Does this means another 18 months for another manager to build their team?

A very disappointed Liverpool fan
John

 

 

16 May 2012 17:25:56
ABSOLUTELY gutted . .

Looks like if we not careful we will turn into a club who, if we dont do well enough we will keep sacking the people who are trying to turn our club around.

Jus hope this isn't the beginning of the "Chelsea" regime.


However we wait in anticipation, as the saying goes .

The King Is Dead . . . .Long livet he king.

YNWA

Mr Slonk The Red

 

 

16 May 2012 17:25:55
on the subject of who should be the new manager i believe that Marcelo Bielsa would be the perfect candidate to get us playing good football again
Heres a snippet from his wikipedia page(i know not very reliable) "He enjoys talking to his players but is said to detest English newspaper; The Sun" so sounds perfect for the club hopefully if the owners have Liverpools best intrests at heart they will look towards him

And as a side note all those that wanted Kenny gone are you happy now??

Kanos

 

 

16 May 2012 17:21:04
Hopefully the new manager will be spoken to behind closed doors like most things with FSG. People who are calling for pep guardiola need to get real, I Would love hiddink as manager though! JF92

 

 

16 May 2012 17:19:49
Very upset that Dalglish hasn't been given more time, we could see the signs were positive for next season. Oh well... I think Liverpool should look no further than the president himself, that is Laurent Blanc.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:19:14
So KK gone for me we should get rafa get under certain restrictions as in not 100% power and with a dof

 

 

16 May 2012 17:18:56
Now that KK is gone, which is a sad day as any REAL Liverpool fan would know, who will we get in? I'd like the club to see what Joachim Low's postion is after the Euros but i doubt FSG will wait any length of time. Looks like the bookies have it right when u think about it...Martinez or Rafa
Milamber

 

 

16 May 2012 17:24:22
Ronald de boer next manager with hiddink upstairs what about it lads

 

 

16 May 2012 17:23:42
Am I of a minority that doesn't want rafa back? Yes he won us champions league, but with a team that houllier built, just got them to play differently. Yes he brought Torres and some other good players but he lumbered us with some dredge on high wages. I'm a Liverpool fan and will support whatever manager comes in. But I think it's time to look forward not back. Fsg will hopefully get the best man for the job and back him.

YNWA
Rob

You're part of the too silent majority.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:23:41
To be honest, it sickens me to have seen everyone slating the King recently. Sure, the results haven't been great but this man is a living legend. He has done more for the club than anyone else, going through the emotional turmoil of Hillsborough which we seem to have forgotten. Here's hoping that we'll get behind the next manager.

Green red

 

 

16 May 2012 17:23:01
Let silly season begin on here then, first it will be everyone knowing the next manager and of course he'll be bringing in his own players won't he.....good luck eds! {Ed001's Note - thanks, we need it!}

 

 

16 May 2012 17:22:45
Eds fellow reds . BIG THANKS KENNY ALWAYS A LEGEND AND THE ONLY KING. Cheers psv

 

 

16 May 2012 17:22:27
Unless a top, top manager is installed, with massive backing In the transfer market, the owners will be slaughtered.

Is there anyone left to run the club?

Not inspired or impressed with our owners thus far.

"Under promise, over deliver"

Lee YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 17:21:28
Kenny is a legend and always will be but sadly he had to go. Only one manager for me that is capello. He has stated that he wants to have a crack in the prem so there you go. Anyone agree?

Andy from Liverpool {Ed001's Note - he can't even speak English!}

Capello is planning to retire in 2-3 years. He wouldn't be a good fit.

(and what ed001 said too)

BJH YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 17:21:18
FSG will go for a high profile signing as manager e.g. Jose Mourinho as he's a winner and has ambition the same as them even if it will cost them
YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 17:21:17
Very disappointed that Kenny has been sacked, unless the owners have a world class manager up their sleeve and are willing to spend serious amounts of money then i think they will regret this decision.

P.S. I hope it not Martinez, Rodgers or Lambert!

 

 

16 May 2012 17:17:44
I am so sad that Kenny has gone. Please FSG appoint a world class manager with a pot of gold.... other wise you will infer a backlash from the supporters. Sorry to be so blunt but Martinez / Rodgers etc. not LFC standard. Just my 2 cent`s

Matty p

 

 

16 May 2012 17:18:27
Cant say Im happy. The club badly needs stability. The choice of manager is crucial. The cant afford to experiment with an unproven manager. Needs to have big club experience otherwise its a huge risk and sacking kk is a big mistake. The last thing the club needs is another change in manager in 12 months time. Rafa would be a huge step backwards. Look at the money he wasted on less than average players. Yes he made some great signings but he had far awful ones. This summer is hugely important for the future of the club. The right manager needs to be found and given full backing with a sizeable transfer kitty. Who that person will be is hard to know but unproven managers like martinez would be a huge risk and the club cannot afford any more mistakes.
Cilldara Red

 

 

16 May 2012 17:17:57
Wish your readers would stop playing football manager and coming up with ridiculous transfer targets. Ganso aka Paulo henrique will not be signing!!

 

 

16 May 2012 17:17:46
wanted to give kenny another season but now that hes gone. theres only one man for the job. rafa

 

 

16 May 2012 17:17:44
Thank you Kenny for taking all this on your shoulders when you could have been improving your handicap at Formby. No tarnish to your name which will always be revered.
It's a ratrace now anyway.
Without the billions of Mancabu & Chelski it will be a big tough job - but it is for all the other poor sods out there.
However, as we always say, we support the Club not the personalities, so cut the crap & the bitching & get behind the new manager whoever it is.
Let's just hope we get someone who truly believes what BS said a long long time ago -
"Football isn't about life and death. It's more important than that."
Keep the faith bros. and keep the faith Kenny.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:17:38
Let me be the first to say it.

YANKS OUT!

 

 

16 May 2012 17:12:28
Hi ed/s, Do you think we will appoint a new manager soon? Cause if not, who's going to sign the players you know what I mean, Thanks!

FilipinoRED {Ed001's Note - DoF can sign players, usually they do. But I do expect things to move quickly now.}

We dont have a dof tho

 

 

16 May 2012 17:11:21
Let's start then the voting ends at ten
Rafa believe
Martinez un believe {Ed001's Note - I vote neither.}

AVB if possible if not any one apart from Martinez or Benitez

Eric the red

You do know it not X-factor

Im with you ed
k-h

 

 

16 May 2012 17:10:41
I think you are better off doing this now rather than giving him another season. I only wish Newcastle had done the same after the same amount of time. He would not have had chance to sell players like Clark, Ferdinand, Ginola, Beardsley, Asprilla and replace them with Carl Serrant, Des Hamilton, Stephan Guivarch, Alessandro Pistone. Shuddering whilst typing those names (and they are just the ones i can think of off the top of my head), oh forgot, Andreas Andersson (i just threw up in my mouth typing that one).
NUFCCOL {Ed001's Note - you do know he was brought in to sell off those players to reduce the wage bill right? Newcastle were in financial difficulties and needed to get the biggest earners out the door.}

Ed, We did need to balance the books to a certain extent, however he was not brought in to dismantle a team that had nearly won the league and replace it with expensive dross. He sold players totaling around 26m and bought players for nearly 40m that finished 11 places lower. To say he was brought in to slash costs is a myth amongst Dalglish friendly press.

Dalglish friendly press ? What planet are you on ?

I recall him signing Rush & Barnes too, which was dodgy - they were well past their best. Didn't he sign his son Paul too?

BJH YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 17:10:38
So no DOF no manager and martinez now the fav! FML we are screwed!!!!!
King Kenny you'll never walk alone. True Liverpool Legend
LeeWils

That's the spirit!

 

 

16 May 2012 17:17:32
I know there will be plenty of you who don't agree, but I'd love it if FSG said they would give Jose Mourinho £200m to spend and he came and won us the league... And the Champions League... And the FA Cup etc etc etc. Bring in the special one!

They should make a statement of intent and bid ridicoulous amount for someone like Mourinho... he won't come but it will show intent...

OR if JM turns us down, it could put others off.

Not sure... but I don't think JM would come anyway?

 

 

16 May 2012 17:17:28
Thank you King Kenny.

Is and always will be liverpool legend.

Adam

* a liverpool Legend (SIGH!)

Adam

 

 

16 May 2012 17:17:18
Back to the drawing board then....I guess it will be like this every year if we don't win the league, the Million Pound Drop or the Eurovision Song contest....

 

 

16 May 2012 17:16:56
the only way to find out whether sacking kenny is a mistake is to wait a yearand see where we end up. Having kenny has our manager made me like a big kid again. Feel gutted but lets see what happens next. THANKS KENNY YNWA. taff red

 

 

16 May 2012 17:16:40
Disgraceful decision in sacking Kenny.

Would rather have Martinez or Terrry Connor than Benitez

 

 

16 May 2012 17:16:31
Still think Frank Rikard has to be worth a punt! Thought this for 3 years since Benitez

 

 

16 May 2012 17:16:27
Roberto Martinez 6/4

Rafael Benitez 13/8

Jose Mourinho 10/1

Martin O'Neill 10/1

Frank Rijkaard 12/1

Andre Villas-Boas 12/1

If they want a young manager - AVB, please not Martinez.It would be too early in his career. There would be yet another crisis at Christmas.

Rafa will attract good players.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:15:55
If there's a chance of getting this Txiki Begiristain guy in as the DoF, then what do you think the chances of getting Frank Rijkaard as manager are?

 

 

16 May 2012 17:15:33
First of all I would like to say a massive thank you to Kenny Dalglish for all his effort and contribution in the last 18 months. He returned to us in our most difficult time when the club needed him most, he steadied the club and moved us forward.

Yes he won us our first trophy in 6 yrs but we went backwards in the league. The owners are not at fault for the decision today they have simply made a good business decision based on the modern day league and standards. I think this shows that the owners have the clubs best interests at heart. They realise that to finish 8th in the league is simply not good enough...

Kennys objective from the start was to finish in the top 4 he has failed Fact!!

Not good enough so I applaud the owners decision, so let's get behind the owners and look forward to better times ahead with better players coming to the club and a clean out of Kennys bad buys...

Curled1

 

 

16 May 2012 17:15:26
Remember what i said! Mark Waller coming back, Kenny going and Pep Guardiola coming in!!!

From my last post it sounds like alot of you will be having kids when it comes true ha!

Rachel5030

If Pep Guardiola came in it wouldn't turns us into Barcelona over night as they have start quality right throughout their team....

but I do like his approach. Pressing the ball highup the pitch, fitness levels high, keep possession and work the ball.

Just dreaming a bit!

 

 

16 May 2012 17:12:33
It's a disgrace that Kenny has been sacked. Thanks for saving the club FSG but you've now sacked 2 managers in 18 months.
Do your research, that is not the behaviour of Liverpool Football Club, least not the one that I have supported for 32 years.
No club with that turnover of managers will ever be successful.
If they are going to do this, they had better come up with something really special to replace the KING.
If they stick with Martinez or WORSE Benitez then I think I may have to take a sabatical away from football because the whole idea of it is too traumatic.

KING KENNY will never walk alone.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:12:11
that was a disaster i cant see a good reason why dalglish was not given another year unless he resigned himself. i hope benitez doesnt come back i wold love to see martinez or avb because they will play the attacking football that we want to see instead of them drab 0-0 draws we got so often under benitez.
derryred

We didnt get a lot of o-o under rafa we had some great times under him.
played some great foofball at times so get of his back
soul man

Wait a minute... You've got to see it like they FSG do a little bit...

They paid Kenny a wage to do this job, more than the average punter will get paid in a life time!

They supported him with some serious dosh in the transfer market, and sorry, the results should have been better. Simple....

Style of football was better, we trounced teams and did not get results, we had more shots than anyone else, hit the pose more times, won the Carling cup (by skin of teeth on penalties to a Championship side) blah, blah, blah, but over a season a manager and his team needs to sort that out...

Respect and thanks to Kenny but he had targets and over a season not there... and the owners can't be blamed for that.

You cant see why he was sacked? might have something to do with the 14 loses or finishing 8th 37 points of top, just a thought

 

 

16 May 2012 17:11:44
If FSG are serious about making the club better Guardiola Capello Hiddink Should be the calibre they are looking for.Martinez/Rodgers/Lambert Absoulutely not for #lfc

 

 

16 May 2012 17:09:55
cheers for your help KING KENNY sad too see you go walk on walk on,but going forward,for us too be 37pts off top spot just not right, but now lets see who are ower's bring in they must back the new gaffa too the hilt we need change fact,we need too see what they do who comes in,and we need too sort the team out.ED just cant wait too see who it will be.....walk on walk on,jay essex red for life red till dead.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:08:49
Eds/Macca, with Kenny now gone, which managers do you think are a viable replacement right now? I've heard the names of Pep (never going to happen), Rafa and Martinez coming up again and again, but are there any others? And sometime before I saw a post saying that Suarez would only stay if Kenny stayed, does this mean that Suarez will go? In the current market we won't be able to find anybody close to Suarez's ability for the money we paid for him. To me it's one step forwards two steps back for liverpool once again.
CH

 

 

16 May 2012 17:15:03
Genuinely feeling gutted.

Adam

 

 

16 May 2012 17:14:27
Class statements from Henry, Werner and Kenny. Hope "fans" who have been calling for Kenny to go also show class. Liverpool FC are a family, Kenny was part of it (I hope he stays part of it in some capacity) and I hope everyone shows the man the respect he deserves!

sp

 

 

16 May 2012 17:14:24
Its a shame to see one of the proudest reds and manager lose his job today, I hope Kenny stays with in the club because its not the same without him.
One thing this has proved though is the owners are ruthless and aren't interested in being also ran's they want to be on top spot and will do what it take to achieve it.
However the have been quick to sack who they don't want yet their has still not been a DOF appointed i'd imagine that needs to happen before a new manager is brought in. There has still been no decision made on the stadium, FSG need to make the right decisions to take this club forward and fast before we slip even further behind.

One worry is Kenny had 1 season and failed to get us top 4, what happens if the next manager can't get us top 4 either, sacked and get a new man in? I hope not.

always a red

 

 

16 May 2012 17:14:12
So Fsg have set the bar.Now they will put in who they want, and if he doesnt get top 4? He gets sacked. Well they better get it right of they will be in for a world full of pain. Totally disgusted!!

The Irish Rover

 

 

16 May 2012 17:14:11
with no manager and a no dof does this mean whole new transfer targets and budgets?

 

 

16 May 2012 17:13:43
He may be a person at times but this Mr. Collymore is correct on this occasion! This is from his Twitter page:

"#lfc Get the right man,not the cheap man next. Top quality manager,proven at a big club.Martinez.Rodgers.Di Matteo,million miles off."

Eds, Thoughts?

JamietheRed {Ed001's Note - not on some publicity seeking imbecile's tweets, I have no interest in.}

This from the man who spends he's spare time in carparks. lol

 

 

16 May 2012 17:13:36
Correct decision as i feel he would have wasted more money this summer. But its sad knowing how much he loved the club and then seeing him leave.

E.H LFC

 

 

16 May 2012 17:13:14
Regardless of whether you wanted Kenny to stay or go, this is a big set back.

Any new manager will need to assess the squad and make his own mind where we're deficient, identify and pursue new targets. This will take time and we're now playing catch up.

I thought Kenny was gone when I saw how chocked he was during the lap of the pitch after the final game!

The Robin

 

 

16 May 2012 17:13:11
For any of you guys thinking this is a good thing you seriously need to think about the implications of this yet again we will spend a season as a team in transition, and besides who are we going to take on as manager that would be better than Kenny people are getting excited over Martinez and Rogers. Seriously wise up Rogers has had a great season with a relegation candidate fair enough but didnt we learn our lesson with Hodgson, Martinez yes has had some tremendous results against Newcastle Arsenal the scum and ourselves but did you all forget he NEEDED everyone of those results to avoid relegation because of a very poor season overall. So Unless FSG have ALREADY pulled off a miracle and managed to sign Pep Guardiola up (which I dont belive is even remotly possible) then who are we left with the next best thing would be Rafa and id much rather have kept Kenny.
Sorry for the rant im just one unhappy fan :(

I think Moyes would be a good choice.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:08:25
I have to say i was not jumping up and down about daglish when he was manager. Nor was i a big critic of him. My heart said yes but my head said no.

But when i seen the news that he was gone i felt weird. I sort of knew it would happen but i was really sad and felt really sorry for him since he is a real legend for the club.

But its happened and now we have to pick ourselves up and look to the future.But we have to do it in the right way. And this is my fear about FSG: In this move have they showed us that Liverpool will henceforth be a business and will forget our history? I for one hope not

So now the quest for a new manager. Personally i want to see Martinez take over the post for the style of football he pays but i dot know if he can cut it at the highest level.

Whatever happens it looks like we will have an interesting few months but no matter what happens i will remain 100% behind our great club.

YNWA king kenny

Tyrone

Everything FSG have done - from hiring Kenny, to trying to stay at Anfield, to the retro shirt - indicates they are sensitive to our history. At the same time, we became a big club by being innovators (sponsors names on shirts) and taking chances (hiring Shankly). There is no real alternative to moving forward.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:07:27
bye bye Kenny Dalglish

welcome back Rafa Benitez

YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 17:07:25
Ian Ayre has left too!

 

 

16 May 2012 17:06:17
Is there anyone left at LFC, no Mangaer, no DOF, no Chief- Executive, no lawyer, no head of sports science well, I dont know who the rest are!

Big changes indeed as mentioned by Macca. Let's hope the owners get it right, because I feel if they don't, we could be in for another 3-5 years without Champions League :(

AG

 

 

16 May 2012 17:06:12
Disappointed that Kenny has gone, really felt he should have been given until December at the least. Not impressed!
But then again atleast FSG have acted swiftly. Now i really hope that the replacement is top notch. Bringing in a Martinez for example would not take this club forward.

p.s. does this also spell the end for Suarez? I hope not....

SJ

 

 

16 May 2012 17:06:04
Sorry to see the King go think he should have got another season at least. However, the way the owners have reacted demonstrates that they crave success and quite clearly there is no way of dressing up 8th in the league as progress or bad luck.

In terms of the new manager, I am going to be controversial and say only one name. David Moyes. I know he is Everton manager and our city rival. But I have to say his record and his ability is there for everyone to see. I mean look at the money he has had to spend, hardly anything, yet Everton seem to always come up with the goods. He's astute in the transfer market, eg Jelavic, 5.5 million and more goals probably than Carrol, Adam, Henderson and Downing put together.

I think David Moyes could take us to the next level and also the fact that the other top 56/ teams already have managers could persuade him across from the blue half of merseyside.

I know it is controversail suggesstion but it is a banter page after.

Let me know what you think, Eds as well please

Thanks for reading {Ed001's Note - god no, the football his teams play is dire. If you can't boot the ball, boot the man. He is just a better Fat Scam.}

 

 

16 May 2012 17:05:51
What ever happens let's not turn into a villa fan and start hating managers before they even get a chance to show us what they can do. Give them a chance...... we have a history to perserve lets try and help rather than tear down.

I saw potential in the team last year the passing and moving etc. I kind of blame suarez for his sacking in some ways. Once that happened our form dipped, he was let down. We can do without that type of player. Would rush of let kenny down like that?

Trust in LFC it will work.

Nice statement by John Henry. Kenny Is always going to be a legend. He is more important to our club then any manager.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:05:48
No point in posting possible transfer targets when we have virtually nos staff bar the tea lady! Concentrate on getting a manager and DoF first!

JamietheRed

 

 

16 May 2012 17:11:27
Will liverpool approach younger managger hungary for success or an experienced manager?

 

 

16 May 2012 17:11:07
Gutted Queen Kenny got sacked. I was loving his work :)

CT13

 

 

16 May 2012 17:09:43
GUTTED GUTTED GUTTED !!!!

 

 

16 May 2012 17:09:36
There you go all you who wanted kenny out and said over the top remarks about him youv'e got what you wanted. I bet you knee jerk know alls will be doing the same again 12 months down the line.
We will see if the club really mean business now and appoint a top name manager and give him major funds but ive got a bad feeling its middle of the road manager and limited funds

 

 

16 May 2012 17:09:07
All I have to say is Shut up to all those who doubted Ed002... I hope we make the right selections...

 

 

16 May 2012 17:08:59
Please not Martinez rogers or Rafa we are Liverpool for god sake! Go for klopp

 

 

16 May 2012 17:08:53
KK bein described by John scales as one of the greatest managers in the history of football - based on what ?

Probably based on how many trophies he won as a manager.

BJH YNWA.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:08:50
Just wanna say goodbye Kenny ur an absolute legend love ya to bits,but I must say I agree with decision ,to spend 120 million n finish 37 points off the top is sadly not good enough ,I think maybe he gave the players a bit too much respect,cause some matches the players lacked effort n determination ,thank you for the carling cup trophy. Ynwa

 

 

16 May 2012 17:04:27
Sorry to see kenny go he is not just a legend of our club but a legend of football. One of the greatest players of all time. Good luck kenny with what ever you decide to do and please pleasE please to all on this site can we show the new manager some respect who ever it turns out to be and give him time to make a difference. Good luck to who ever comes.

Eric the red

If its Martinez, he will get sacked within a year.....

LiverBird

FSG don't know what they are doing, nearly all the backroom staff who FSG appointed over the last 18 months have gone. The only one left standing is Steve Clark, who I could see as our new manager. Kenny should have been given another year. The only person who needs sacking is the person who is advising FSG.They haven't a clue on football people and they are treading on dangerous ground. Kenny YNWA

Bobbinred

'give him time to make a difference'
Eric, was Kenny given time? No, the mercenaries here can't wait to see the back of him! Time? Pah! Singred

Clarke is gone as well......

Also any thoughts of putting AVB should also be abondoned........

His No 2, with whom he was so successful, won Porto the league without Falcao......Now who is a better manager?...AVB or his one time assistant...

Great words be Andy Hunter in his column for Guardian....

"Liverpool's support, meanwhile, awaits evidence the owners' decisiveness is not merely restricted to firing employees."

LiverBird

 

 

16 May 2012 17:04:21
The King is dead.....................
Long live the King!!

CaptainClacker

 

 

16 May 2012 17:04:19
Kenny released statement shows his utter class lets not gloat in his demise but let's move on

Mike

If you're any sort of a fan, you wouldn't gloat at any sacking of a manager.

KT!

Read the post I'm urging people not to gloat, it's a sad day as I say.

 

 

16 May 2012 17:04:19
Ian Ayre was sacked too!

LFC Press Conference is due shortly at 5pm.

Toni Silva [lfc reserves player]
I hear the news about Dalglish . Really disapointed. He came to training, watched our games and was always very supportive thankyou #YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 17:03:48
Kenny Dalglish's daughter @KellyCates Tweets: "Devastated for Dad but incredibly proud of the job he's done. Thanks for all the lovely messages already. Have a good summer.

Gutted for KK

 

 

16 May 2012 17:03:05
my personal preference for new manager would be biesla (assuming the likes of guardiola etc are unrealistic) would possibly be able to entice 1 or 2 biboa players to come with him another option i wouldnt mind IF bergeristan got dof role would be laudrup. just my opinion :) {Ed001's Note - Bielsa is better than Guardiola! Bielsa is a genius, in my opinion.}

Can you see him at Liverpool though ED speaks no English at all and is very eccentric {Ed001's Note - I am sure I read somewhere that he learnt English a few years back? I can't see us getting him, but we should do whatever it takes to get him.}

Why in your opinion Ed001 have Athletic under-performed in the league (small squad,focus on cups or what)?. I really noticed him before this season but what are his strengths/weaknesses etc. Greatly appreciated.

GuvTOB

 

 

16 May 2012 17:02:33
How do the EDs feel about Kenny's departure and who is a likely replacement? I'm shocked!
DP {Ed001's Note - disappointed myself. No idea who is likely to come in to be honest.}

Whoever it is will have a mountain to climb with the task of easing out Carra and Gerrard........

If its Martinez, we better start to look for the guy who will replace him..

LiverBird

 

 

16 May 2012 17:02:29
only one man whether we like it or not to win us the prem and thats mourinho not a big fan of his myself but out of anyone he's the one who wud do it no doubt within two years..thanks kenny..#1983#

 

 

16 May 2012 17:01:44
Long live the EDS, MACCA and the king

Scouse beN

 

 

16 May 2012 17:01:44
Only time will tell if this is the right decision but I believe the only way has to be up from such a poor season. Thanks KK for steadying the ship but let's move on and stop the divisions from within and all get behind THE CLUB whoever is in charge!!

 

 

16 May 2012 17:01:01
I am absolutely gutted....the ONE decent thing we had ....gone!

Big BIG mistake FSG

I feel absolutely sick

You will always be our King Kenny, and you will never walk alone.


Tel 1949

Jeez get a grip. You do realize LFC were champions of Europe before Kenny arrived - whether as a player or manager?

Club is bigger than any one individual. Always has been.

You are not alone my friend.......

I am feeling terribly sick as well......

LiverBird

 

 

16 May 2012 16:59:53
Liverpool are beginning to show similar signs to that of Newcastle when they slowly dropped down the league to regulation with a series of managerial sackings in the process.

Or maybe like Chelsea, who were rejuvenated and may be champions of Europe in 3 days . . .

 

 

16 May 2012 16:54:07
Eds/Macca,

going on what Macca said last night, can you really believe that they would sack dalglish if they didnt already have a world class manager lined up? If they go for somebody like martinez then they arent going to get instant success. If they go for a Benitez they have a better chance but he will want full control and wont take kindly to a DOF above him.

Really can't understand why they have sacked him unless they have someone in place. Either that or Dalglish rubbed them up the wrong way during the meeting and they had no other choice.

Either way we need a manager to come in asap otherwise our transfer dealings wont be done quickly with other clubs getting in there first.

Can the eds/macca comment? {Ed001's Note - he forced their hand.}

 

 

16 May 2012 16:54:00
I am ashamed to be a Liverpool fan at the moment!! I am ashamed with all our supporters who have instigated this!! We are LFC we don't do this to our own...I am gutted big time..

Killerpool

To be fair the owners made a business call and when anyone under performs in a business after using £100 million of the businesses money they don't get rewarded. I appreciate he saved the club last season and is a legend but the second half of this season was horrendous and he even admitted he didn't have the answer so probably best to find someone that does.

All the best Kenny YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 16:49:36
With all the recent departures from Anfield (executive retrenchments), who is actually running LFC.
I mean 5 terminations and no appointments!.
What the hell is actually going on, any ideas anyone.
Have FSG totally lost the plot!.

 

 

16 May 2012 16:48:47
Eds, was Dalglish sacked or did he resign? {Ed001's Note - bit of both, his contract was terminated.}

 

 

16 May 2012 16:48:40
Hi ed(s)/macca

who would you like as our next manager? And how soon should we expect a new one to be appointed?

Great site keep up the work, ignore all the stick yous get its only an opinion!

Wee Owen {Ed001's Note - my fantasy choice would be Bielsa. I would expect some kind of movement within a fortnight myself, quicker if they can.}

 

 

16 May 2012 16:58:38
Still our biggest legend,still a great man...but he had to go !

 

 

16 May 2012 16:58:33
I know a lot of the fans are disappointed with the daglish situation but whoever we replace him with we must give him our full support, be it mourinho, guardiola or Martinez. We are Liverpool and we are the best supporters in the world we must get behind the new manager.
MIKEYRED

No! I will give him one season to get us into thd top 4, then i will be asking questions of our owners decision to employ him if he fails. Henry has put down the marker. He sacked Kenny after one season, why should any new manager get any lo.ger if he fails?

 

 

16 May 2012 16:57:42
here are the odds for nxt manager of liverpool
7/4 R. Martinez
8/1 F. Capello
8/1 J. Mourinho
8/1 R. Benitez
8/1 A. Villas-Boas
10/1 C. Ancelotti
10/1 B. Rodgers
14/1 J. Guardiola
14/1 P. Lambert
16/1 M. O'Neill
16/1 L. Van Gaal
16/1 C. Ranieri
16/1 H. Redknapp
20/1 G Hiddink
20/1 L. Blanc
20/1 S. Hyppia
20/1 F. Rijkaard
28/1 G. Poyet
33/1 S. Clarke
33/1 D. Moyes
33/1 S. Eriksson
33/1 G. Souness
33/1 K. Keegan
33/1 D. Deschamps

What price de boer

7/4 R. Martinez - possible
8/1 F. Capello - no chance
8/1 J. Mourinho - no chance
8/1 R. Benitez - possible
8/1 A. Villas-Boas - unlikely
10/1 C. Ancelotti - no chance
10/1 B. Rodgers - possible
14/1 J. Guardiola - dont make me laugh
14/1 P. Lambert - possible
16/1 M. O'Neill - possible
16/1 L. Van Gaal - unlikely
16/1 C. Ranieri - unlikely
16/1 H. Redknapp - no
20/1 G Hiddink - no
20/1 L. Blanc - unlikely
20/1 S. Hyppia - no
20/1 F. Rijkaard - unlikely
28/1 G. Poyet - not sure who this is tbh
33/1 S. Clarke - doubt it
33/1 D. Moyes - ...
33/1 S. Eriksson - ?
33/1 G. Souness - NO
33/1 K. Keegan - really?
33/1 D. Deschamps - unlikely
Hope its rafa

33/1 Moyes...??

Make that 33,000.000/ 1 Moyes !!

Blue247

HAHHA hyppia 20-1 hes just taken a new job,guessing you was asleep all day yesterday and didnt get chance to come on here!

swedish adam

 

 

16 May 2012 16:57:42
Hey ed001 can I ask for your opinion on Dalglish leaving please ? {Ed001's Note - I don't think he gave FSG much choice to be honest. Personally I would have preferred him to be given more time, but it wasn't to be. It is the right time to do this though, just so long as they bring in the right replacement.}

 

 

16 May 2012 16:57:33
I dont understand our fans, most of yous were calling for his head during the season, now look at yous!

 

 

16 May 2012 16:55:56
being an everton fan im gutted match of the day will never be the same,the kings team really gave us some funny moments this year,but before you all gang up and say you beat us three times yes i put my hands up and agree,but look at the table we finished above you you only raise your game against us.you will be another villa the yank will want is money back very soon.

An invisible everton fan...no surprise there. you could finish 10 places above LFC and still never be remotely in the same class with your silly little team. begone, son of a silly person
Milamber

Only at a small club like Everton can a manager not win anything for 10 years and still be classed as a hero!

Kenny done in one season that Moyes has never done at Everton! Won a trophy.

The Irish Rover

How many cups did you win again?

Yeah your probably best sticking with Bill kenwright....

The difference being we as a team can spend money to improve our team how much can you afford to spend? next season will be very different and we will see just how successful u are when moyes goes to a big team instead of wasting time at a club punching above their weight

Where as you have no money what so ever and when your delapidated cow shed of a stadium falls down you will be playing on the park on a sunday morning after all uncle bill sells all your best players and moyes gets sick of having to buy his own teabags

How can you say you spend money to improve your team you spent 123 million to finish 8th two places lower than last season that does not sound like progress or improvement to me the points you have you were nearer to relegation the the top spot again is that what you call improving your team.we spent 5.5 million on pure talent every one we signed would get straight in your side.

As for winning a cup do you really think that winning a cup where you STRUGGLED to beat a CHAMPIONSHIP side on penalties i have to agree with you all that money you spent you really did improve didnt you.you only have one good player in gerrard lets talk football would you rather have downing or pinnear jelovic or the donkey.fellani or adams i know who id rather have remember we finished above you spent less than you weve improved you havent

Yet you still won nothing nothing but your used to it by now

 

 

16 May 2012 17:00:52
its on lfc tv now

 

 

16 May 2012 16:59:13
It has to be a manager with a big reputation to replace the King.

Let's give whoever they hand the job to some proper Liverpool support.

KT!

 

 

16 May 2012 16:53:30
Surely a Kenny Dalglish sacked statement would be on the LFC website if this was true .

Qwerty

Ah well , Qwerty signing off .

Qwerty

 

 

16 May 2012 16:51:57
So Kenny Dalglish has gone and as of now, Fenway's Liverpool have no manager, director of football, head of press, or new stadium plan.

Looks like another roller coaster summer!

dmedly

This is the problem, we are yearnign for stability, I can't see it coming for a long time, withotu stability we won't have improvements

 

 

16 May 2012 16:48:22
I think we have already talked with benitez before itself so he rejected chelsea offer!!!

 

 

16 May 2012 16:47:42
Would love to know where macca gets info from as he's wrong again {Ed001's Note - I would suggest he got it from a player, because they were clueless about any of this and still are. They know as much as us right now.}

 

 

16 May 2012 16:47:16
thats what happens when u blow 100mil, love the man but this season was awful.henderson etc were terrible buys, i smell rafa coming back
5gold stars

Henderson has a good future

An if he dont get champions league will you want him out as well plastic fans like you make me chuck

 

 

16 May 2012 16:47:13
Even though I wasn't sure about keeping Dalglish, I can't help but feel a bit gutted for him that he was either sacked, or, worse, that he felt the need to leave the post!

ChrisMiz

 

 

16 May 2012 16:46:41
2 steps forward 1 step back. Kenny has been sacked! Whoever the new manager, he has to first analyse, then 'slowly' phase in his methods. Looks like we could be out of the Champions League next year too.

Gutted for Kenny and for Liverpool.

AG

 

 

16 May 2012 16:46:40
the yanks better not go down the yellow brick road like the other two jokers did now without the king.
they better go and find a world class manager fast and give him at least £50m plus sales otherwise no champions league again and we dont want a young up and comin bum either gotta be WORLD CLASS
evokingofthekop.

 

 

16 May 2012 16:46:15
please not martinez - i dont want to see rodallega etc at liverpool.

deschamps, klinsman, benitez, Heynckes, klopp, and mayb even di matteo - in a dream world mourinho to bring ozil and benzema aswell as alonso with him to the red half of liverpool!!

Klinsman, benitez, Heynckes, klopp
Any sound good enough ?

 

 

16 May 2012 16:46:12
So did FSG fly Daglish the whole way to America to give him the boot?? I was as frustrated as any other fan about our league form this season but either he should of been given one more season to prove himself or been relieved of his duties with a bit more tact. I think he deserved a lot more from LFC, the rumours circled all over the internet since yesterday morning and today yet as I am writing this email there still hasnt been an official announcement to let the fans know the story. Im disapointed in FSG to be honest. He will always be King Kenny, YNWA.

Just my opinion, sorry for the rant.

Dore89

Why wouldn't they make him fly there?

(I don't know if they did - or he set up the meeting - but saying hypothetically that they did - whats the problem?)

If there are those who feel that asking him to make a standard business trip is too much (due to his age, health concerns or other reasons) then ask yourselves - If that is actually a concern or a problem - then is he cut out for the demands of such a job?

There is no problem with him going to the States - that he did shouldn't come into it.

Look at poor Steve Keen if you want to feel sorry for someone though.... his life seems like a daily commute to and from India!

BJH YNWA {Ed001's Note - how can you feel sorry for Kean? The man is a complete tool. Too busy drink driving to manage effectively.}

He does seem like a tool.

It appears that I care so little about him that I can't even spell his name.

BJH YNWA (Indeed, ed) {Ed001's Note - he is a complete arrogant tool, really full of himself.}

 

 

16 May 2012 16:45:15
I'm one of many Liverpool fans who felt we needed a change, but I'm still absolutely gutted for Kenny! So sad to see him go. He'll always be the King!!

 

 

16 May 2012 16:44:44
i for one are gutted the king has gone and would have at least like to have seen him given one more year to try turn it around only time will tell if this is a mistake i hope not king kenny i salute you your a real liverpool great and always will remain so in my eyes sad day
giblet

 

 

16 May 2012 16:44:33
Well I hope all you King-Slayers are happy now....

Yes we are

 

 

16 May 2012 16:44:01
King kenny has not been sacked he as left mutuak consent without wny conpensation to help club financially, everyone is saying sad times. Few days ago everyone inckuding ne saying time for change now its happened oh "sad times" this had to happen we need him upstairs anda fresh approach new start new ideas, new liverpool. It should have happebed last year dalglish was never a long term option bad decisiom by owners. So hopefully they back new manager. I have past comments and i stated how big this summer is everything i said has been right this is a huge summer we all thought kast symmer but its a year late new manager, dof, playerd everything huge huge huge!

I dont think you should tar every 1 with the same brush as you mate not every 1 wanted kenny to go most half intelligent fans thought he should at least be given until xmas

 

 

16 May 2012 16:51:31
lambert is join fav with martinez at the local bookies to me

 

 

16 May 2012 16:50:15
King Kenny is gone. It's on SSN and BBC:( YNWA Kenny. Thank you for all you have done. You will always be a legend.

 

 

16 May 2012 16:49:31
Got to say im disapointed/gutted with Kenny getting the sack,LFC in the past have never resorted to knee jerk reactions but in todays climate they have caught up in that regard...I felt with Kenny at the helm we were progressing pretty well untill the evra incident & feel that incident was the beginning of the end...would of liked KK to have had another season...if i try to take my red tinted KK glasses off & say another top four job came up,the King would be nowhere near in being considered for it
If the owners want win at all costs...theres only one man for the job...Mourinho

 

 

16 May 2012 16:49:30
You ready for a busy evening eds??? {Ed003's Note - yep,lol}

 

 

16 May 2012 16:49:16
nothing as of yet on the website..
journo's words so far guys..
Piddy

 

 

16 May 2012 16:49:15
HEY LFC FANS...

we all know deep down..we feel a bit bad for kenny cos hes a legend..

But its a results business and we cant afford to lose ground on the other clubs........

the owners have shown intent...and a fear factor...which we all should admit..........hasnt been known around liverpool..........and i think that should give the players a kick up the bum and realise liverpool must compete at the top level

heres to the future guys and gals

red lobster

If FSG appoints the wrong manager, you'll crying into your bisque! Singred

 

 

16 May 2012 16:49:03
So King Kenny has gone then? Good thing or bad thing?

 

 

16 May 2012 16:49:00
Sad to see Kenny has been sacked,but have to say it IS the right decision

alan50

 

 

16 May 2012 16:48:40
Hope we have a decent manager lined up. Doubt it though now that we're lacking Communications managers amongst others at the moment. Big call from the Americans. Hope it pays off, Kenny could have turned it around.

-Shane.

 

 

16 May 2012 16:48:25
I'm liking the decisive way that FSG has acted. KD is a Liverpool legend but this club needs to move forward. Let's hope they act just as impressively when they appoint the new manager.

 

 

16 May 2012 16:42:53
So Queen Kenny gets the boot - I'm gutted - was so pleased with the job he was doing

 

 

16 May 2012 16:43:57
Kenny's gone.!!!
Just hope we get his replacement in quickly. I don't know if "the cull" will extend to a mass exodus of players. In fact I'm not sure what to think at the moment.
I'm sure I won't be the only one to offer my sympathies to Kenny and thank him for his commitment and support at our Club. Legend.
ANFIELDPETE

 

 

16 May 2012 16:43:57
I am dissapointed that kenny has gone, but hope we do not get Martinez , it just does not make any sense to me he will end up like another roy and i think that because of who kenny is he should have been given another year

 

 

16 May 2012 16:43:56
I can confirm that both KD & SC have been sacked. My mate who is a photographer within the club has just told me. This has only happened in the last couple of hours, but reports are he is sat in Liverpool airport to go to his villa in La Manga. Sad times, but I think it needed to happen. Watch this space with either benitez coming back in or Roberto Martinez coming in. Dave Whelan has given Martinez the all clear to hold talks and we could see a quick turn around. In terms of player transfers, this will be done by a new DOF coming in, with the manager making the first calls.

 

 

16 May 2012 16:43:53
Guardiola for manager haha

most likley roberto martinez but he is still a top manager

 

 

16 May 2012 16:43:30
kenny just got sacked

 

 

16 May 2012 16:42:49
Please Mr Henry not Martinez.
We need an A-list manager who will attract A-list players.

Would you have thought that redknapp was a top class manager when his team got relegated a few seasons back ?
derryred

Not many of those (A-list managers) available m8.

I wouldn't want an older manager like a Van Gaal or Capello either - Capello plans to retire in a few years.

Klopp, Guardiola, Mourinho etc seem out of reach.

Any good suggestions anyone? - Young, proven A-list managers?

BJH YNWA (Martinez is looking likely....)

 

 

16 May 2012 16:41:59
nooooooooooooooo please please tell me this is not true....whyyyyyyy has Kenny been sacked!! This is messed up...I hucking hate the owners now!!! They better have some one world class line up!

Killerpool

 

 

16 May 2012 16:41:55
Kennys gone, seriously gutted. Next season will be a bust not going to attract the players nor the manager we need.

 

 

16 May 2012 16:41:49
i truly did believe that kenny should have been given another shot but guess the owners didnt looks like ed002 got it right, who do you guys want as are next manager?

 

 

16 May 2012 16:41:18
I don't like to say I told you so ...


But I told you so :)

Blue247

You also told us bitters would win the semi final and i hate to tell you so but you were wrong

Do you have nothing better to do than go on the liverpool page?
Shows how good your club is...

Tyrone

 

 

16 May 2012 16:40:57
YNWA King Kenny

Phooey

 

 

16 May 2012 16:40:51
saddened by the news about kenny, loved the club.

we have to keep are chins up and move on

thanks kenny

 

 

16 May 2012 16:40:31
It is confirmed on BBC website and in addition his daughter has twittered the following:-

Kelly Cates ‏ @KellyCates
Devastated for Dad but incredibly proud of the job he's done. Thanks for all the lovely messages already. Have a good summer x

 

 

16 May 2012 16:40:28
Thankyou Kenny for all your efforts and you will never walk alone..


Kev the Red

 

 

16 May 2012 16:40:02
Roberto Martinez? Really?

Ash

 

 

16 May 2012 16:39:48
Dalglish has left Liverpool FC.

I sincerely hope all the moaners on here are now happy that they have been instrumental in the departure of one of this clubs greatest ever footballers, servants and genuinely decent brother of ours.

I am truly sick of reading the whingeing posts about him...

Be careful for what you wish, this could be the end of our club as we know it.

I am disgusted with the so called 'supporters' who have been instrumental in this

Tel 1949

Don't be so ridiculous. Fans have a right to moan and that was a dreadful season and kenny along with players is responsible for that

Well said Tel...

Phooey

You know the thing about it tho tel what if the new manager doesn,t get champions league at the first time of asking they will all want him gone what a joke a sad day for liverpool football club should have been given until at least xmas got to say im gutted right now
giblet

Those 'fan's will be straight back here complaining if we lose a pre-season game. This is the cycle we're now stuck with, if it is not immediately happening they'll all moan, cue a sacking next year and so on...

No moaning supporters have been instrumental in Dalglish being sacked the owners will not let anything other than the facts cloud there judgement.They are simply unhappy at how the season has turned out and the whole PR disaster that unfolded.Although i must agree some of the anti kenny posts on here and other forums were totaly out of order they will have had little impact on the owners
TED

The only thing that has been instrumental has been the teams performances Tel, not sure an Internet chat room effects company policy at Fenway Sports Group mate.

Gazman

 

 

16 May 2012 16:39:48
I'm gutted kenny has gone, i think if we gave him 1 more season we could have evolved, at least we played some football albeit that we hit every bar and post.I hope we stick with the youth coming through, i think this is a step backwards as the new manager is going to want to do it his way,either way its going take a long time for us to win the league , Kenny would have done it in 3 years!! I dont want martinez i'd rather Brendon Rodgers and my wish would be guardiola but thats just a dream.Its going to be a bleak summer with an average squad to build on and a crap euros i might hang up my armchair!!

 

 

16 May 2012 16:39:31
Although its happened, and the rumours have been circulating, still majorly shocked. Just hope we bring in a suitable replacement, Martinez, Lambert and Rogers have potential but too soon for them imo : /

The A man

 

 

16 May 2012 16:39:24
Extract from the TELEGRAPH...

''Although sentiment and popularity with the fans are on his side, any suggestion he would willingly step aside for a younger man is a misjudgement.
Acutely aware of the sensitivities of removing an iconic manager from his post, the Americans would seek to progress as carefully as possible in the event of dismissing Dalglish. They did not summon him to Boston and it was not a pre-planned visit.
The face-to-face talks with Dalglish were very much a late call following intensifying speculation. It was the manager himself who decided to accompany Clarke, who was already planning a trans-Atlantic trip as the assistant's views are considered hugely significant in the end of season review.
The lack of a resolution after Monday's meeting has led to an air of uncertainty at the club. The prospect of an amicable parting of the ways, with Dalglish willingly stepping aside, has been shown to be an unlikely solution.
There have been suggestions Dalglish would remain in an alternative role, possible reverting to the ambassadorial status he enjoyed before moving back to the dugout.
There is nothing to suggest that would attract him, and it also runs the risk of a successor being dissuaded from working at Anfield under his shadow ” a prospect which will be unpalatable for those who witnessed the experiences of Roy Hodgson.
It has been a period of growing disharmony on Merseyside in the past few weeks with regular sackings and a sense of impending gloom for Dalglish's supporters.
Comolli still needs to be replaced and the Head of Sports Science, Peter Brukner, also lost his job.
In the absence of a director of communication, following Ian Cotton's departure a week ago, there was no one at the club in a position to comment on the feverish speculation surrounding Dalglish's role on Tuesday night. ''

Not only a damn good read... honest and candid ...perhaps a bit raw for the LFC fainthearted...

But I liked It...

Blue247 ( the reasonable poster and a must read everytime )

 

 

16 May 2012 16:39:19
think FSG's next move needs to be very brave.
will they have a replacement to announce?
will they have a think and scout about?

sooner the better in my eyes...
Piddy.

 

 

16 May 2012 16:39:16
To all fans that asked for KK to go, step down, move upstairs, get sacked, walk etc................

You have got what you wanted.

Just pray to God that the owners know what they are doing.

That they get the best man for the job.

That they set out realistic goals for his tenure but also give him time to make his mark.

We all wanted Dalglish to rescue us from good old Roy and he done so. The results might not have improved, but the football did.

We also have a decent squad that only needs 2-3 top class additions to be able to challenge for the Top 4.

I know a lot of people have mentioned Martinez, but I'm not convinced by him.

I know Wigan aren't exactly the type of club to be challenging for honours, but he hasn't done himself any favours by being involved in relegation battles each season. Also there was that 10 or 12 game losing streak this season.

At this moment I can't think about what manager I would like to see.

however, one thing is clear.

We as fans need to get behind the decision and stop moaning.

Support the players. Become the 12th man that we used to be and get Anfield rocking again for every game (not just the so-called big games)

What exactly is there to disagree in this statement?

 

 

16 May 2012 16:39:01
Eds has Kenny left?

AG {Ed001's Note - yes.}

 

 

16 May 2012 16:38:44
Please tell me the King is moving upstairs and isn't leaving completely? I know he didn't have a great season but he deserves to be a part of the club.

100% Cotton

Kenny cannot 'move upstairs' - that was never a good/realistic option (for obvious reasons).

A new manager cannot have the shadow of Dalglish hovering over him.

BJH YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 16:38:41
Dont like the way ssn are sayin kk has been sacked we know he is gone and maybe he has resinged feel for hlm Bit i think something had to be done sad to See you go Jenny you will always b a legend in our eyes

 

 

16 May 2012 16:38:13
seems like liverpool no manager, no director of football, no director of communications, no new stadium plan when will these major problems be sorted out edds and macca? {Ed001's Note - I would expect the appointments to start as soon as.}

 

 

16 May 2012 16:37:57
You heard it here 1st. KK has left the managers job 100%, he will take up his new position as chief hotdog seller on 1st sept 2012 after a 3 month break citing "health reasons". The real reason being that fsg dont want 2 further alienate already disgruntled fans and they see KK as the perfect attraction to get a stagnant hotdog market moving again. Remember the name, this will all be confirmed in a press conference at 00:01 bst on saturday 19-5-2012. Barney Beep Bop

 

 

16 May 2012 16:37:31
eds do you think that now kenny has gone that the new manger and staff will have a slightly bigger tranfer budjet as a new dof is coming in also, and overall might want to change the team slightly to start challenging for that top four finish again? {Ed001's Note - there is no set budget, it doesn't work like that.}

 

 

16 May 2012 16:37:09
I'm sorry to inform dalglish is gone :( hope we don't go back for rafa! Atleast get someone decent FSG

Joshlfc

 

 

16 May 2012 16:36:11
Can't believe Kd has gone, hope is is still with the club! YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 16:35:47
Kenny Dalglish has gone...
Macca is going to get some abuse for this...
Please can everyone get off his back as he just says what he hears and in this instance he heard wrong...

Regards
Spud

Totally agree, Spud. I think that anyone who regularly visits this forum should be grateful for Macca's input. -SH-

 

 

16 May 2012 16:35:32
#AVERYDISSAPOINTEDLFCFAN

#HOPEHESTILLHASAJOBATLFC

This isn't twitter,no need for hash tags...bri teh red

 

 

16 May 2012 16:35:20
Hi,

Kenny Dalglish has left Liverpool. This puts to bed all the gossip and talk that has been circling in the last 24 hours.

I am undecided on whether this is the right move although the league performance shows that something needed to change at Liverpool Football Club.

That change has come through the departure of King Kenny...

Would just like to add, I like many eagerly await any news Macca is able to share, and I do not want to point fingers or question his knowledge although what he stated about this scenario has turned out to be very untrue...

Who will replace KD is yet to be known...

 

 

16 May 2012 16:35:17
Dalglish sacked, confirmed on sky sports, hope your all happy now folks you got what most of you wanted

Ian the red

Yep im happy

 

 

16 May 2012 16:34:16
Steven Gerrard
Glen Johnson
Stewart Downing
Andy Carroll

is it just me, how do none of these players deserve to be called up for england. Why can't they for once select the team according to performance. These guys performed really badly this year.

Steven Gerrard looks like a liability against decent team, he can't run anymore, is going to be roy water boy.

I can't see the point of downing being in the team, he can't player or cross it in that well. He is just wasting a space and Donkey has been rubbish since we bought him, Glen Johnson likes to give the ball away and cant defend.

Well I would of included Cleverly just because I think he is the future of that england team. He will be leading that team into next world cup. England have never had a decent passer of the ball since scholes.

Jack Rodwell had a good season, plus he can many different roles across defense and midfield. He would of been a better choice

Rooney, why take rooney along, he is banned for 2 games and we could be out of the competition by that stage. No matter what happens Roy will end up losing his job by sept and be managing in the championship and alot of these liverpool have no respect for him.

It seems to me, our biggest problem, comes down to rid-git way we set up to play for England. The traditional 4-4-2 is dead and england appointed another 442 lover . We need a fluid formation that would fit the players. Mourinho would play a formation to suit the players and England just seem to select players and play formations because they are traditional. These guys get picked all the time and they play 442 .

Expect them to lose like they always do. Iv seen roys team at international level. They mainly their to make up numbers. They defend for their lives and hope no one scores one against them because they have no answers going forward

Jack Rodwell hasn't played since November.

I hate the 442 formation but even I have to admit england have to play that in the euros. we don't have the players with the right style to play with 433 or 4231. here's who i'd pick: hart, johnson terry cahill cole, downing gerrard parker young, rooney/welbeck carroll

 

 

16 May 2012 16:34:14
Back to the start again!!!!

So Help Us

 

 

16 May 2012 16:33:49
Terrible shame about Kenny. Why on earth is it announced on SSN rather than our own website or tv channel?
Steve.

Steve it was mate i watched it on there rather than sky gloating in their witch hunt of kk and lfc

 

 

16 May 2012 16:33:48
Kenny has gone so will suarez

Belt up...suarez will deffo stay!!

 

 

16 May 2012 16:33:15
Big mistake FSG.

Bad move, not happy.

You won't like us when we're angry.

Matt S - YNWA

Good man! but he had to go .

You need to replace us with me in your post mate

F**kin right mate, I'm fuming.

You should grow up, and get real, our owners want top 4, I want top 4, I hate to be the one to tell you but kenny isn't the man to get us there, this shows we can trust our owners to to what's right for the club

Did you give KK over 100million pounds to spend "wisely"

 

 

16 May 2012 16:33:12
Kenny apparently resigned. Let the new manager rumours begin :)

 

 

16 May 2012 16:33:06
Ive also learnt macca is useless. Good call on that one aye fella! I like how you loophole all your posts to just cover your arse though.

I was john henrys biggest fan untill today. If it is anyone less than mourinho or pep, we are going backwards

Ben the red

He had to go!!

Macca just tells you what he is told/believes to be true. I don't see you singling out every other poster on this site when what they say is clearly wrong. Grow up and stop being pathetic.

Mourinho? You are a clown sir with big massive clown shoes
Milamber

Don't worry, dude. You'll probably get the defensive and long ball merchant, Rafa. Start hoping you don't, though.

 

 

16 May 2012 16:32:44
I believe I was first to call it, all be it a day early! Can't say I'm surprised ...

~Al~

Hardly the first

One of the ed's was saying it for quite a while, followed by a lot of other people. So don't think you were first

 

 

16 May 2012 16:32:32
Regardless of whether it was the right decision or not
soo sad to see kenny leave.. especially if hes not taking up another role..

Perhaps Steve Clark will be promoted to manager, he did stay in Boston after Kenny left!!!
Bobbinred

 

 

16 May 2012 16:32:20
so now we have no manager, no director of football, no head of press and no new stadium plans, not looking forward to next season, for a start adam downing carroll and henderson need to follow kenny out of our club

I agree on all but Carroll, he's really showing skill, i'd prefer we keep him just a while longer

Disagree on Henderson. He has a big future at LFC or somewhere else!

 

 

16 May 2012 16:32:06
Kenny gone? It's good that it's been made really quick but do think he should have been given more time. Another change, 3 managers in not a lot of time can't be good. It's another sad day for Liverpool!!

 

 

16 May 2012 16:31:57
kenny has left the building and am made up
he can stop thinking hes big than the club with his stupid comments he makes after every game he just doesnt have a clue
so come on raffa get us back in the top four give us some thing to shout about now the cowboys rats that drove you out in the first place have gone

 

 

16 May 2012 16:31:46
Hi eds and fellow reds now that Kenny has been officially released of his duties does anyone know of how I can send my thanks to the King for his efforts and work? Would like to offer my best to him

TSB {Ed001's Note - try Twitter mate.}

I don't tweet it annoys me will the club not be collecting well wishes etc? {Ed001's Note - I really don't know mate.}

 

 

16 May 2012 16:31:33
I do not care what you believe, if you wanted him out. Do not celebrate the departure of King Kenny Dalglish, It may be best for the club but the man deserves nothing but the up most respect from us for all he has done -McMenemy

Mark my words.....

In 6 months those wishing of his departure will be thinking they hadnt wished so.....

Pathetic ownership.......

LiverBird

Agree fully

 

 

16 May 2012 16:31:31
The king has gone. Very sad it didn't work out, the king is and will always be a Liverpool legend. Daglish, You will never walk alone
MIKEYRED

 

 

16 May 2012 16:31:10
Dalglish is gone! sad in a way as i hoped he would have had one more year to put what went wrong right...but its the beginning of a new era! (again haha) lets make sure this is a success. No rafa please though. People who want him back are forgetting what state he left the club under. Yes he didnt get the backing from the board but he had lost the dressing room. Someone with new fresh ideas and with an emphasis on good football.
Willster :)

 

 

16 May 2012 16:30:46
So Daglish has now left:( the owners had better make the right decisions regarding the new manager
kidmillions

 

 

16 May 2012 16:30:26
One word.................

GUTTED!!!!!

 

 

16 May 2012 16:30:15
Kenny has gone, like I posted yesterday morning @ 09:31.

THE SOURCE IS STRONG

Ask them who is replacing him then!

You mean like ed002 has been saying since christmas?

 

 

16 May 2012 16:30:03
Ed002 and most EDs are spot on once again..Kudos to them to be honest and not changing their opinion every one second and post some rubbish I love the site
But the biggest mistake Eds have done is give Macca a separate site, wonder what excuse he comes up with now after what he posted just yesterday
But anyways need not talk more on the negatives Thanks EDs {Ed001's Note - Macca's page, as we said all along, is merely to stop us having to answer questions about what he said. Now everyone can see it in black and white, whether right or wrong, without needing to ask us every five seconds.}

 

 

16 May 2012 16:30:01
KK gone! Sad time! :'(

 

 

16 May 2012 16:29:58
Kenny ''Back me or sack me''
FSG ''Your sacked''

Kenny will not be moving upstairs, Should of been sacked a very long time ago imo

I should have stopped reading your post after a few words imo

 

 

16 May 2012 16:29:52
RIDICULOUS, TOTALLY RIDICULOUS.

HOW ARE WE MEANT TO HAVE STABILITY NOW?!?!

ALL YOU VULTURES GOT YOUR WISH, AND WHEN WE HAVE A MORE AWFUL SEASON, I DONT WANA HEAR A PEEP OUT OF ALL THOSE WHO WANTED HIM OUT.

Really angry

Ben the red

OK and if we finish higher than 8th, how about we don't hear a peep out of you?

If we have a better season - I don't want a peep out of you either!

This was always happening.

The only shock is that some people are shocked.

BJH YNWA

I can feel your pains, man. Now it is revolving door time. One manager per season, if we are lucky, that is.

 

 

16 May 2012 16:29:51
hope now that kenny is gone we Dont get Martinez.legend king kenny YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 16:29:32
Thinking about whats going on at the moment,Its clear to all that kenny spent alot of money this season and underachieved big time.Now if he has had a 6 month spell taking over from ROY fair enough he took us up the table but we are lfc and i wouldnt call 7th place an achivement but was good compared to the way we were going under Roy,but since then kenny spent alot of money on players and if hes being honest he couldnt admit that finishing 8th in the league and the stats to go with that as worst place finish in 50 years etc is an improvement how?,ok we won the fizzy cup as we called it but "WE ARE LFC" the carling cup and 8th in the league after spending so much money on top of the quality players we had already i dont c how people can defend kenny so much ,hes had time not enough to to build a squad to win the league but enough time to challange for 4th theres been no improvement in the last 3 years at this club on the pitch its just been backwards steps and the league positions prove this .Its time for the owners to act fast otherwise what Didi Hamann is right we will fall too far behind to ever catch up on playing in the champions league .Bring back Rafa Benitez give him the backing in the transfer market let him make the changes and make us the force we once were again,hes still fairly young plenty of experience loves lfc and is available and we all know we would seriously challange for top for next season .


jeff:)

 

 

16 May 2012 16:29:26
Dalglish has left his post its on BBC Sport website. Question is who are we going to get to replace him?

Big Al N Wales

 

 

16 May 2012 16:29:04
YNWA Kenny Dalglish, thank you for everything, as a player, as a manager and as a man.

 

 

16 May 2012 16:28:58
hi eds wiv dalglish bein given the boot have you any opinions on who could replace him if so who? would also like to say as liverpool fans we should thank him for everything he has done for us {Ed001's Note - depends on who the DoF is.}

 

 

16 May 2012 16:27:38
Dalglish has gone !!! YNWA lads he will always be a legend of our great club.

 

 

16 May 2012 16:27:21
best of luck kenny. YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 16:27:09
just turned on ssn are we really going to sack another manager. if this is the case then this season will tell us alot about were this club is going and it is not forward.. mid table club..

 

 

16 May 2012 16:26:48
Well, there goes Kenny ...

Who will be our next manager?

 

 

16 May 2012 16:26:44
Kk has been sacked!!...who in now??

G

 

 

16 May 2012 16:26:36
I did say so, thanks for the people who believed me.Thanks Gaz

 

 

16 May 2012 16:26:32
kenny has gone ffs

 

 

16 May 2012 16:25:39
KK has resigned according to BBC

 

 

16 May 2012 16:25:38
Gutted! Im ashamed to be a fan at this moment in time
Greaty

Are we turning into Chelsea?
Bad decision, loyalty has counted for nothing. I really need convincing that this is the right way to go.
KJS

Why?? Because we have got Owners that want to take the club forward, you should be ashamed of yourself

Totally agree with you bud no support just hate

Why? Because we were starting to play a decent style of football for the first time in years and the great man had done enough to earn at least one more season. With the squad that Rafa and Hodgson left and the style of football they played it was always going to take a while to turn round! I wish Utds board had had such a knee jerk reaction with Ferguson!

 

 

16 May 2012 16:25:30
Wow, the King has gone........gutted.

There's no one available to fill me with confidence.

Lee YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 16:25:18
Gutted but feel its the right thing if rumours are true. Thank you kenny. JF92

 

 

16 May 2012 16:24:56
The King is gone! Long live the king....

 

 

16 May 2012 16:24:54
Im delighted kenny is gone, we need champions lge football, everton finished above us, shocking season. rafa the favourite in the bookies to take over, happy days

Is that you Fergie?

No he isnt martinez is stop chatting nonsense

 

 

16 May 2012 16:24:17
Oh no!!

Kenny Dalglish leaves Liverpool manager's post

 

 

16 May 2012 16:23:57
Gutted for kenny


I know macca will get loads of abuse, but atleast his there to give his info to us. Remember that people

 

 

16 May 2012 16:23:29
Gutted! Wish Kenny could of taken us back to the top. A true legend and gent, i have massive respect for him he loves our club in the same way we do, all the best Kenny.

KNEE JERK

 

 

16 May 2012 16:22:31
It has just been confirmed that Dalglish is no longer the manager of liverpool. Who will be our next manager has yet to be confirmed. Hopefully itll be either Rafa or Jurgen Klopp(recently linked).

 

 

16 May 2012 16:21:57
kenny has gone see bbc....lol at the eds claiming to be in the know! shatttuuuup {Ed001's Note - are you an imbecile? None of us claimed to be in the know, but we all said he would go. Why don't you learn to read or shut up, child.}

Well said ed their just arrogant to admit they was wrong

 

 

16 May 2012 16:19:59
It's official. Kenny has left.

Thanks for everything kenny but we need to move forward now and improve.

Chris

 

 

16 May 2012 16:19:22
Can't imagine how the Kop will react if FSG replaces Kenny with a young manager possessing a CV as clean as a whiteboard?! He'll have a torrid time even before the season starts Singred

 

 

16 May 2012 16:17:00
BREAKING NEWS
Kenny Dalglish leaves his post as manager of Liverpool FC.

BBC

Long live the King!

Did not want to see him go, but glad it's all over maybe now we can move on..Good Luck Kenny...

Dav001

What your guys views?
hopefully we dont get martinez
we need a strong manager with a good rep so we can attract top names

i.e. deschamps, or jurgen klinsman etc

Today is a very sad day for the club, but I can understand the owners decision. Now please bring Rafa

Sad news.

Long live the king

Just read it myself that there is a press conference at 5 today its looking likely he will be gone
giblet

It's really is a sad day for Kenny,as he really wanted to succeed,and we all know that the results weren't good enough,though as a season ticket holder,I have enjoyed the attacking style of play,and the 2 trips to wembley.You will never walk alone Kenny.
Jiminy Cricket

 

 

16 May 2012 16:14:01
i think even though liverpool need a world class striker i think we should also try to sign hooper from celtic after all jelavic seems to be a hit for everton

Because Jelavic has done it for Everton does not mean that Hooper would do it for Liverpool. Hooper is a decent in Scotland, Jelavic is an all round far more intelligent player than him.

UNBIASED VIEW

 

 

16 May 2012 16:11:05
Goalkeepers:
Iker Casillas Real Madrid
Pepe Reina Liverpool
David De Gea Manchester United
Defenders:
Raul Albiol Real Madrid
Jordi Alba Valencia
Alvaro Arbeloa Real Madrid
Alvaro Domínguez Atletico Madrid
Nacho Monreal Malaga
Sergio Ramos Real Madrid
Juanfran Torres Atletico Madrid
Midfielders:
Isco Alarcon Malaga
Xabi Alonso Real Madrid
Santi Cazorla Malaga
Benat Betis
Javi García Benfica
Bruno Soriano Villarreal
David Silva Manchester City
Jesus Navas Sevilla
Attackers
Adrián Lopez Atletico Madrid
Alvaro Negredo Sevilla
Roberto Soldado Valencia

spain 2012 euro squad, please kenny buy from that

Kenny got sacked

This can't be right?

No Xavi, Iniesta, Torres, Llorente, Pique, Puyol, Javi Martinez, Mata?

Where did you get this info?

 

 

16 May 2012 16:06:59
Go to 06.32
What defines a true fan
I dont get rattled by many comments on here but this is plain stupid.Opinions??
Im not a true fan for supporting Dalglish is what i can gather.

FowlerisGod

 

 

16 May 2012 16:01:04
Finally Gerrard is England captain. Congratulations Stevie. Hope this will mean that England gets the best out of him. What do we think to the overall squad? I take it Parker, Cahil etc will be fit by then eds we don't want another situation like Rooney in 2006.
RealisticRed {Ed001's Note - don't have any interest in England sorry.}

 

 

16 May 2012 15:53:13
Hi all, who would you all prefer if kenny left: roberto martinez, Rafa Benitez or Frank Riijkaard? They have been the most linked managers?

 

 

16 May 2012 15:49:21
Gaton Ramirez, Luuk De Jong & Iker Muniain - The absolute best signings LFC could do this summer. I'm not saying they will happen just in my opinion the absolute best, young and somewhat cheap.

Agree 100000000000000000%

 

 

16 May 2012 15:49:12
I'm glad for Andy Carroll, Stuart Downing, Glen Johnson and Captain fantastic Steven Gerrard. Great stuff

Even Jordan Henderson who is on the stand by list should be really pleased. Carroll and Henderson have had it really tough in their first season, but both have silverware to their names now, and have experienced losing in a final which builds character and is the other side of football.

They've had a lot of growing up to do and i think they've both done well overall and matured.

So after the teams roller-coaster of a season, this is great news individually for the lads and gives them all the encouragement they'll need.

 

 

16 May 2012 15:30:32
I will admit, I am not exactly Andy Carroll's biggest fan. However, I've got the feeling he is going to be the player everyone is talking about at the Euros, but it will be about good things.

I hope he can change my opinion on him, I'm still not convinced. But anyway, I'll stop being so negative.

Rafa's Purple Goatie

I think this can be the an advantage for us next season the fact that he is training and maybe getting match practise

Its good he's going, keep him fit over the summer

 

 

16 May 2012 15:19:54
How about a big congratulations to Andy Carroll and Stewart Downing for getting into the England squad for the European Championships, obviously Stevie & Glen Johnson were going to make it but well done, hopefully Big Andy will come back fitter and stronger for this experience

 

 

16 May 2012 15:16:58
Hi Eds, can you give me an opinion on Stewart Downing?, i have been hugely disappointed with him this season and honestly think he only has so many caps is that he is left footed, why is he held in such high regard? (a) to be signed by Liverpool for 20 million quid and (b) how has he played so many times for England, im just not seeing it.
cobra {Ed001's Note - decent player, not in any kind of form and completely lacking any kind of confidence.}

 

 

16 May 2012 15:13:19
Not a rumour but....

congrats to SG for the captaincy of England..long overdue.

But tell me, how is Roy going to instill a unity in the camp when ferret face Neville is on the coaching team. Wasn't he the one who actively drove the England squad apart a few years back because of the Liverpool / Man U rivalry?

Seem to remember Capello alluding to it when he first started, stating all meals would be taken together as one and effectively removing ferret face from the squad

Good luck with that Roy.....

 

 

16 May 2012 15:03:58
Any new news on lucas barrios eds are we linked wiv him? just speculation surronding him has gone quite I think 12m should be enuff to snatch him {Ed023's Note - I'm pretty sure he is set for a move to China}

 

 

16 May 2012 15:02:08
All newspapers = Bullsh*t
Thats why they turn them into toilet tissue after for wiping our backsides on.

Never believe anything you read in the paper, they get most of there news off sites like this or twitter!

Lee73

 

 

16 May 2012 15:01:50
Hi Eds/fellow Reds: just to quash the Skrtel rumours.

defo staying ( own words) L.F.C. T.V. interview. "Happy with life at Liverpool looking forward to new season".

Skrtel is adamant he wants to remain at Anfield.

Does not no come across as a snide (saying he's staying , but planning his get away). anyway he's convinced me and that's good enough for me.

Regarding the K.K. situation: totally disgusted by some of the remarks made on this site about a man who genuinely cares for the club and it's fans and has done a lot for the club on and off the field. show some respect all you two- faced, ignorant people)

Things did not turn out for K.K. or the fans this season the way we all wanted. But we have been s**te for years. Rafa made big mistakes bought great signings, but also bought total crap. Rafa, like Kenny was not very good with the press. Rafa won 2 trophies and probably cost us winning the league with his infamous slagging off about purple nose.

Apart from Bill shankly, Bob Paisley and KK himself first time around. we have not had great managers.
Importantly we have not won the league since KK was in charge first time around.
Kenny was enjoying his wedding anniversary whilst on a cruise with his wife. on the day of his anniversary he was whisked away by helicopter and asked nicely to put it mildly to take charge of the club. he did take the job because the Americans were desperate to improve our current standing at that time. which was pretty dire. K.K was desperate
to help the club out because of his love of the club.
yes he bit off more than he could chew, because Liverpool fans think we have a divine right to be in the top four every season and if that is not achieved ,then whoever is in charge gets the flak.
K.K tried his best and he did ok considering he'd been away from management for so long.
The Americans give Kenny the job for two reasons one to appease the frustration and restlessness amongst the fans and because of Kenny's track record it would be feasible to be successful with Kenny. So the Americans are responsible for the current situation. they made the final decision to appoint Kenny. It was always going to be a gamble and as yet it's not paid off.
I think K.K. should be given one more season to see if he can improve the team, however i personally would leave the buying of players to someone else.
some Liverpool fans must remember the main majority wanted Kenny to be our manger last year, because they believed he would bring instant success. we are to desperate to try to emulate the glory days of the 70's and 80's. We must be patient. Rafa kept saying the expectation is to high and unrealistic. But fans will not listen. they put massive pressure on manager s and players and it so often has an adverse effect.

Man City won the league on Saturday but were so close to losing it. imagine the fall out if that had have happened mancinni would have been sacked and the players heavily criticised. instead they are heroes. mancinni will get a new contract . Today in football there is to much of a fine line between success and failure. both of which are not judged in the right way.
Many fans expected to much from Kenny as did the owners. He must be given more time.
how many Liverpool fans really believe the sentiment of YNWA?

Ste. R

And to be fair.. Under Dalglish our football has been great.
Unfortunatly not scoring enough, unlucky, low confidence have been our archillies heal.
Having said that, with more luck a top 4 place next season would be visible with the current squad let alone with new additions.
Our football has been doniment against many teams but not lethal enough in front of goal.
Dalglish deserves one more season and hopefully gets an appollogy from some idiots on here.

 

 

16 May 2012 14:59:36
Bojan as been seen in around melwood

Sure it's not wee jimmy cranky?

 

 

16 May 2012 14:56:00
Let us hope our Liverpool players stick two fingers up to England and concentrate on Liverpool.

DaveyBootle

 

 

16 May 2012 14:52:57
ins-
ELM
RAMIREZ
EILA
SLOLADO
LUUK DE JONG
DEJONG
ADAM JOHNSON

outs-
KUYT- few sides in for him- 1million
BELLAMY- CARDIFF-1.7million
HENDENSON- sunderland - 11.5million
CARROL- ASTON VILLAloan- wages 45k
DOWNING- ASTON VILLA-9million
AURELIO- MALAGA- 700K
DONI- brazilian team- 950K
BRAD JONES- BLACKBURNloan- wages 14k
CHARLIE ADAM- ASTON VILLA and if WESTHAM or BLACKPOOL get promoted ADAM will go on loan first year.

You are obviously very well connected with someone at the club to know all these fine details - just a couple of things though:

Aurelio has been released so we will not get 700k for him.

"If West Ham or Blackpool get promoted" well considering they play each other in the play-off final I would say there's a pretty good chance one of them will get promoted.

But these seem positively nailed on compared to the others..................

JRG

Poster- zero k. Meathead

 

 

16 May 2012 14:50:59
Hope all these Stories of Transfer targets turning us down,are just Rumours and paper talk

The club is not a very attractive prospect for new players, at the moment.
Its all quite chaotic.
Not sure FSG are doing LFC any good at the present time.

 

 

16 May 2012 14:46:00
Happy for Carroll! but how on earth did downing get in the team haha, is Gerrard captain? {Ed023's Note - Yes he is}

Good point.
How the hell did Downing make it, on the back of the season he just had.
I am happy that the other LFC lads made it.

Don't care much for the English national team mind you.
Go Germany!.

 

 

16 May 2012 14:43:41
so it looks like another manager gone then King Ken im not surprised though because liverpool are utter rubbish another rubbish season , the liver legends think they not even going to get champion league for 10years if we don't buy players, we need the players get in champion league then bigger players will think about coming then we can think of fighting for the prem or winning it like in the 70's and 80's good old days:) shame they ended:( so gutted with liverpool i really do think we going to end up like leeds united and this is coming from a big liverpool supporter:/ so so gutted about them, we won the carling cup can't even call it that its a mickie mouse cup it's treble so gutted , we need a new beginning NEW MANAGER , NEW TEAM, GET RID OF THE RUBBISH= downing=henderson=carrol rubbish
people say andy carrol is good wow he ad 2 or 3 good games does my heading some liverpool fans talk some s**t some of you do last year we supposed to bought all supper stars like KAKA bought alonso back to omg never heard so much bull in my life :L even you know you talk rubbish it's treble and you got to agree:/ MARTINEZ new manager be great i think plus the players we should be looking at are' Diego Forlan not playing well for inter the are strugling to get champion league so i think he would be great to come to liver for europa, DIAME from WIgan be great because he's same type of player like yaya toure, Luuk de jong be fantastic player with luis suarez , there are two playersi love to see back and i know its s**t to say it burr we got to and everybody knows it and its FERNANDO TORRES and the other XABI ALONSO ,Eila fro juventus he wants to leave be great get him cheap to:) and im real real shocked about one player which know one have bought only for 5million is HANGLELAND from fulham what a hard CentreBack :)
so come on liver bring back the old times and win cups:)

lfc4life

Wow all this coming from a so called "big" liverpool supporter yet you whinge and moan about everyfing. you obv dont have a clue to start all over again would take years it has not been a successful season no but its people like you who sit at home and slag our players off who damage the players confidence and put off any "big" signings we may be able to attract from signing. if you have nothing useful to say shut the f**k up

Yeah sure thing sell carroll who is starting to unleash his potential and buy forlan who has been injured most of the season and is in his mid thirties and had already stuffed up in england your right you are the way foreward to champions league football cheers good man

Change your name from lfc for life to lfc sometimes
Robbie

How about we try get rid of the rubbish fans like you do you like any player that plays for liverpool somehow i think not

. , ; : ? ! would have helped me! But anyway! Don't be so negative, football isn't a matter of life an death, it's much more important than that

Marc

 

 

16 May 2012 14:18:04
ed's, what was the reason why rafa was sacked? i know it was a poor season, but no where near as poor as this, was that the sole reason? {Ed023's Note - People in charge at the time deemed no Champions League football as a failure}

He also went because he wanted everything his own way and blamed the owners for not letting him have it plus he couldnt accept his failures just passed the buck to someone else

 

 

16 May 2012 14:27:02
Hodgson says about Andy Carroll-
" He's good in the air, got good hold up play, he's strong and powerful and makes good runs behind the opposition defence"
I didn't know there were 2 Andy Carrolls

Chris in Tamworth

Would of lolled 3 weeks ago

Cp

A little harsh there Chris.

AG

And pack the winger who hasn't assisted a goal of his all season!

Ash

Now he of the ale all the time,i personally think he has been great for liverpool the last few games.also he won everything in the air,lets hope england get to the later rounds so he hasnt much time of to go on the ale before the season starts
mrbrown

Yeah I know I'm being a bit harsh, he has looked better lately. That said its still only a handful of decent performances since he signed and I honestly would have taken Crouch ahead of him

Chris in Tamworth

Ha, ha, good point.
Not sure Woy has a clue.
Maybe he is watching videos of AC while he was at Newcastle.

One swallow doesn't make a summer!,

 

 

16 May 2012 14:25:03
So Big Andy's going to the euro's... must be in place of Ferdinand :). just kidding I wish him all the best.
Belfast Red

 

 

16 May 2012 14:19:59
Here's some info from The Guardian on the 1-day saga that was 'Dalglish in America'.

Seems we'll have news soon(ish) - One of the better articles (if not the best) I've read so far on the subject - it's hard to get good information on just what went down in the boardroom.

I wonder will they have it recorded for the new LFC documentary...

Anyhoo......

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Kenny Dalglish is waiting to discover whether his second Liverpool reign is over having failed to receive assurances over his future from Fenway Sports Group during face-to-face talks in Boston.

Dalglish arrived back in England on Tuesday morning following a meeting with the principal owner, John W Henry, and the chairman, Tom Werner, in the United States at which he delivered his end-of-season review and outlined his strategy for much-needed improvement next season. The Liverpool manager instigated Monday's talks in response to the uncertainty that has surrounded his position since defeat in the FA Cup final on 5 May.

FSG, however, is continuing to assess Liverpool's poor eighth‘place finish in the Premier League and the prospects of Dalglish and Steve Clarke, the assistant manager who accompanied his fellow Scot to Boston, returning Champions League football to Anfield. Contrary to the fevered speculation surrounding Dalglish's brief trip, the Liverpool manager was not sacked and did not offer to resign.

But as Dalglish prepares to go on holiday on Wednesday, it is in the knowledge that the meeting with Henry and Werner, his explanation for Liverpool's lowest league finish for 18 years and insistence that a major summer overhaul is unnecessary has not resolved the critical issue of whether he will remain as manager next season. FSG has refused to give assurances on Dalglish's future since the FA Cup final and the lack of them during direct talks with the Liverpool manager demonstrates the extent of the owners' reservations over the progress of his squad.

Henry stated at the start of the season that it would be "a major disappointment" should Liverpool fail to finish in the top four after a £120m investment in new players. Dalglish's team did not mount a challenge for the Champions League places, although they did win the Carling Cup, Liverpool's first trophy for six years, and reach the FA Cup final, and next season will be the club's third consecutive campaign outside the European elite. The agent of Martin Skrtel, Liverpool's player of the year, has claimed the Slovakian defender is concerned at the lack of Champions League football as he considers his options with two years remaining on his current contract.

Dalglish remains in limbo despite attempting to clarify FSG's position by travelling to the United States. The Liverpool manager has identified several transfer targets for the summer but, without confirmation that his job is safe, the club would struggle to proceed in securing their signatures in the absence of a director of football or chief executive at Anfield. Dalglish does not negotiate transfer deals or contracts as the Liverpool manager.

FSG sacked Damien Comolli as director of football 48 hours before the FA Cup semi-final against Everton on the basis they needed to appoint a replacement as quickly as possible. Almost five weeks on, and two weeks before the transfer window officially reopens, the position remains vacant. The owners have also parted company with Liverpool's head of sports science, Dr Peter Brukner, and head of communications, Ian Cotton, in recent weeks. In addition there has been no decision on whether to rebuild Anfield or proceed with a new stadium on Stanley Park since FSG replaced Tom Hicks and George Gillett as owners in October 2010.

Dalglish was handed a three-year contract when he replaced Roy Hodgson on a permanent basis 12 months ago and his departure would increase the vacuum at Liverpool, plus increase the pressure on FSG to appoint a proven successor to an Anfield legend who retains widespread support among the club's fanbase.

The Liverpool manager responded to the uncertainty over his future by launching a staunch defence of his second tenure during his final pre-match press conference of the season on Friday. Dalglish cited the Carling Cup, Europa League qualification and the dramatic improvement since returning in January 2011 with Liverpool languishing four points above the relegation zone as evidence of progress. But he has received no indication from Henry or Werner that they share that assessment.

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BJH YNWA (Hope you enjoyed it - any thoughts? any inside views/opinions eds/Macca?)

Why does every one keep saying 120mil investment, Kenny wasted 120mil. Didn't we get 50mil for torres alone!

My thoughts are dont read newspapers or any b****cks from the media
mrbrown

Other than having you own agenda against Kenny, what's new? BTW please drop the 'YNWA' after your name. Singred

Singred.

You have the wrong idea about me m8 - I was just trying to be helpful and post what I thought was a decent article with interesting titbits of information.

I am loyal to LFC. I love Kenny, but I felt he wasn't up to it.

I am entitled to question the manager.

Plenty of people questioned Hodgson/Rafa/Houllier/Evans - but that's okay.

I have also defended Kenny against those misleading 'spent 100m+' reports.

I did so only yesterday, they annoy me too.

If disagreeing with you constitutes having 'an agenda' (sounds sinister - lol) - you may be a little paranoid.

I don't think my opinion carries enough weight to get PL bosses sacked tbh - lol.

All I did was firmly state that I thought the owners would let Kenny go, and I listed some of the reasons why I thought this.

I fully expected him to go - I turned out to be correct - sorry if that upsets you.

Now I'm looking forward to the future. You should too.

As for Kenny - He'll always be 'The King' to me - I have never gotten personal about him and I will always love him.

Singred - In the nicest possible way - You don't decide who supports Liverpool.

I'll keep the YNWA thank you - I still love Kenny and LFC and other LFC fans, whether we disagree or tactics/players/managers or not - It's you who is denouncing other LFC fans here.

I'll be supporting LFC next year - as will Kenny.

Just reading the original post to which you replied - I didn't say anything negative about Kenny - or anything untrue. I just posted a story. I was hardly pushing an anti-Kenny agenda there.

I don't appreciate being dismissed as a fan just because you are/were of the opinion that everything is/was going okay (52 league points) - whereas I did not.

Questioning my loyalty or worth as a fan is a low blow. No need for that.

And now it seems the owners were more inclined to agree with me than you - so what I thought was hardly outlandish.

At the end of the day, I'm sure we both care about LFC - so lets have a firm handshake between us - and lets look forward - what's done is done.

It's gonna be an interesting summer I'm sure you'll agree!

BJH YNWA.

(If we had a beer together I'm sure we'd get along just fine. Have a good one.)

 

 

16 May 2012 14:35:23
Everton's European fixture list for next season has just been released. They will play Swansea away and Swansea at home.

YNWA

Well at least Everton scored against Swansea this season unlike a certain team.

Ha very funny considering you are Europa league bandits now oh how times change tank u Kenny keep up the good work from all at EFC .Stef the blue.

Hey stef the blue. Do you actually remember what a silver trophy looks like close up, no, I didn't think so.

 

 

16 May 2012 14:18:31
Steven Gerrard captain of England team is a good choice let's hope all Liverpool players selected show what they are capable of and come back to our team as a real stars from the euros.

With Cole, Terry and Lampard in the squad. Let's hope they follow Gerrard instead of doing their own thing.

Lampard was bang out of line a few Euro's back have 22 shots off target or something like that, trying to prove some self serving ego crap.

Seems all a bit pointless if Capello left because of Terry, now Roy picks Terry.

I'd have taken Harry Redknapp and his 4-4-2 tactics, on a part time (just for the Euro's) over Roy Hodgson's defensive approach on a permanent basis.

I wonder if the F.A. spend a chunk of money on England being knocked out before the quarter finals ? :)

No, I rather he didn't go to the Euros, this will just worsen his injury problems.

AG

 

 

16 May 2012 14:15:17
How ironic after the season we have just had we could have four out of ten outfield players in the England team for the first game of the euros !!

Shows you how poor the England team is these days. Such a shame.....all four have had pretty sub-standard seasons

That shows we are not a bad team and have been playing well most season the only problem we have had is scoring goals and also shows that ROY does not have a bad feeling toward LFC.

Not to mention henderson on the stand by list!
jg

Henderson shud be on the lfc standby list
5gold stars

 

 

16 May 2012 14:12:56
dalglish has not manage for 20 years, let him come back properly and give him a chance. because without being out for so long he still won us a title n got us to 2 finals with the type of squad we had. have faith people league place dissapointing but man-u didnt win the title so let liverpool go for it this year and give king kenny a chance, he is the king after all

If he has not been in management for so long, why was he given the permanent post in the first place? bad decision by FSG.
Indian Buzzer

 

 

16 May 2012 14:10:07
I am reading that the net spend was 37mil since Sir henry took over.
mistakes were made and downing is the biggest 1.all others are young and will get better.
midfield is were the game is won or lost.lucas and gerrard can handle any team in the world.but spearing is a hard working player he just has not got the quality.and shelvey is too young to be asked to play well every match.
1 winger 1 midfielder(left footed)1 striker and 1 defender needed.(all need to be class)
get them and give kenny at least 1 more year.
reina doni
johnson kelly
agger new defender
skrtl quates
enrique robinson
lucas henderson new player
new player adam
gerrard shelvey
new player downing
carroll bellamy sterling
suarez. new player

add some youth or send them on loan.
4 players needed and we need them to be class.
we are not as bad as it seems if we get it right we will surprise everyone next season.
100%

sell
kuyt 6 mil
maxi 2 mil
aqua 6 mil
cole 3 mil
that money would get you at least 1 world class player.
the other 3 would cost maybe around 40/50mil.
not being in the top 4 costs the same.
Hope FSG see it the same way and stick with kenny 1 more year i believe he can turn it around
{Ed002's Note - And they picked up tab for the circa £100M the club has lost since they arrived.}

 

 

16 May 2012 14:05:55
Comment from Martin Skrtel

'have a contract at Liverpool and I am happy here at the club. I haven't thought about leaving the club.

"The things that were in the press are rubbish." (from the liverpool website)

James

 

 

16 May 2012 14:01:28
Stevie G to be the England captain fact

Don t you just love the way someone disagrees to what is a FACT!

 

 

16 May 2012 12:21:27
Right this is my first time posting on eya alreet I come on this site every day
And my opinion is we arnt good enuf to challenge the top 4 I was looking at the side that almost won the prem about 4 seasons ago and the half of are first team now would be back up players to the ones we had
Kk should step down cause he has nothing to prove he will always be a Legend and I would either get either emery or rafa back rafa knows the club inside out and has got the Liverpool heart
Players get shut of maxi,kuyt,spearing,downing,adam,shelvey cause are midfield is one of the worst in the prem it's got to be and why don't we give some of the younger players a chance suso could be are next stevie g sterling could be are next michale Owen or could be are very own jimmy grimble the fact is the team isn't good enuf and in my opinion it won't be for at least 5years unless the owners put the hands in there pockets again instead of haveing mouse traps in them and sorry if there's loads of spelling mistakes

 

 

16 May 2012 13:53:52
England Euro Squad

Liverpool 4
s**ty 4
Chelsli 4
Mancs 4
Gooners 2
Spuds 2

Things can't be all bad

They will be if they don't make it past the group!

Yes they can, just because downing is in the the England squad does that mean he has had a good season. Johnson as well? Carroll?

It might just mean that English players aren't as good as continental players

Puzzled

Just shows how average England are.

 

 

16 May 2012 13:50:52
Ian Mcgarry @garbosj

I understand current PL manager has been contacted about becoming new head coach at #LFC. Where does that leave Kenny Dalglish?


Make of it what you will

Badge

This is the same Ian "Eden Hazard has signed for Chelsea" McGarry? Tell him to go fly a kite... Singred

 

 

16 May 2012 13:47:26
players we might be looking at
Ninis-free
Rodallega-free
Hoilett-free
Farfan-free
Taarabt-8m
Reus-10m
Dempsey-?
what u guys think are the chances of these guys and who out of these would u go for

jeff:

All are good. espeacially ninis

Hasn't Reus signed for Borussia Dortmund?

Rues joined bayern, Farfan just signed improved contract, taarabt garbage, Dempsey only for right price coz nearly 30, hoilett immensly overrated but would take him for nowt, ninis & rodellega no better than we have.

Chiz

Reus is a Dortmund player as of July 1st, Taarabt ? LOL no.

JP

Ninis is going to Parma

AG

Oh and Farfan is staying at Schalke and Reus has signed for Dortmund.

AG

 

 

16 May 2012 13:46:53
Half the England fans who told me Hodgson was treated unfairly by Liverpool are fit to lynch him over the squad he's named already.

Hilarious.

- Something Red -

 

 

16 May 2012 13:42:14
Ed...our so called 'rubbish' players have all been included in the England squad with Jordan on standy-by. This goes to show right KK was to buy these English players. There aren't any better in England but that says a lot about the quality of English-born players. It's not the fault of KK. I'll always defend the King and I know that if he stays he will now buy non-English players. But he was right to invest in English/British players as he did. {Ed001's Note - you mean non-English such as Enrique, Adam and Coates??? There was no buy English policy.}

It was most british players not england so adam is included ed001

Suarez and Doni too ed.

Teixeira and a lot of other non English/British kids too.

On the England team - I hope Hodgson plays Downing on the left and he's on form for next season.

Glad Andy will be training this summer too - There could be a strong LFC presence in the England side this summer.

I could see all four in a Hodgson starting XI (whether that is a good thing or not is debatable!)

On the Euros - I'm Irish so I don't really mind who plays for England.

Big Richard 'the Miracle of Moscow' Dunne will eat them all for breakfast - when he wears the green, he is a man possessed!

We'll knock you lot out after battering Spain 1-0, annihilating Italy 1-0 and crushing Croatia in a 0-0 draw.

No bother!

Then England can prepare for the biggest 5-4 hiding (on penalties after a 0-0 draw) that they ever had.

Trap will just love it.

Our government will be overthrown - and Trap will be installed as our new de-facto King and ruler by popular consent.

Marco Tardelli will be appointed as Minister of Fun.

Good times await us.

BJH YNWA (Just glad to be there - should be good craic!)

 

 

16 May 2012 13:40:14
Carroll confirmed for euros squad, be interesting to see how he plays with a different group of players and on the biggest stage. I for one am made up for him. The lad deserves a break, hopefully he'll return a more complete striker

 

 

16 May 2012 13:38:29
Gerrard Johnson Carroll and Downing all named in England's squad for the Euros. Hope it'll be a breakout tournament from Carroll and Downing!

Downing is s**te and we know it.

 

 

16 May 2012 13:35:27
Hi Ed - just wondered, with your inside track and contacts, when do you think my mates gonna stick his hand in his pocket and buy me a pint - before or after the Euros?
Cheers Ed - great site!
The Goatherder
JFT96 {Ed001's Note - probably just after the 4th round you buy him....}

 

 

16 May 2012 13:34:52
Steven Gerrard, Glen Johnson, Stewart Downing and Andy Carroll all included in England set up, not bad for a team that finished in 8th that shows we do have recognised quality in our team, let's hope they do well.

Or England are s**t and havnt won anything for 50 years

 

 

16 May 2012 13:31:39
downing, gerrard, jonson, carrol all going to the euros! henderson on stand by, come on liverpool! lol

 

 

16 May 2012 13:26:58
Just wanted to ask the 'Pool fans, what do you think of the fact that Downing has made the England squad at the expense of players like Johnson, Phillips, Lennon, etc.

I think it's quite Bizarre to be honest, even you guys can admit he's not exactly top draw.

The Moon.

We'll wait and see won't we

Downing would have about 10 assists if our strikers knew how to put the ball into the net. He hasn't been as terrible as some people have made out.

That said, I can understand it if Adam Johnson and Lennon are pissed, especially with Oxlade-Chamberlain going as well.

- Something Red -

My own opinion I would happily swap him for any of those mentioned But that is probably why I am typing here and not managing a football tean

Absolutely crazy. Downing has been dreadful this season.

Ash

I think because he did well for England before and the fact that he plays for his team more than the other players you have mentioned.

Maybe due to his last performances for England. Apart from that, i have no explanation for him being chosen. Good luck to him, though.

Mr. Nokneejerking

He's a terrible player, as I'm sure you'll agree, and a coward as well. But for some reason or another he plays very well at international level and I imagine that is what has got him his place over Johnson, Sturridge, etc. However overall I think Hodgson has done a decent job with his first selection.

Martin

Downing should not be in that squad regardless of who he plays for there are better options some even deserve it more but saying that he is and i hope he does liverpool proud

Johnson hasn't exactly been playing that much this season (obvious reason why he should consider leaving). I would take downing over Lennon any day. And why Carroll over sturridge? Sturridge is not a team player at all.

Tekneek {Ed023's Note - Sturridge is rubbish IMO}

I think the main reason was squad balance, he is one of the few left footed players who (usually) plays left wing. Other than that I'm struggling.....

Richards {Ed023's Note - He also works hard for the team and is tactically sound on the pitch IMO, covers his full back very well}

Bad decision by hodgson imo. he may be our player, but there were better players who have been ignored like lennon,adam johnson, matty phillips...
Indian Buzzer

Hopefully he will have a blinder of a tournament and Chelsea will buy him for 40 million ;)

AG

Im interested in why Liverpool fans call Stewart Downing a coward in what way?

Mike

Cheers for the feedback guys.

I'm not saying he's a bad player, he was decent at both boro' and Villa but the few games I've seen of Liverpool his crossing doesn't even seem to be decent all the time. I'd expect an out and out winger to put a decent ball in 8/10 times, but Downing this season has put a decent ball in maybe 6/10 times.

I just think there was more deserving players, especially Matty Phillips.

P.S - I would say I'm sorry about Kenny but I think him leaving will be a good thing for you especially if you can get somebody in who has an eye for a transfer and plays great football. who knows, Liverpool could actually be a top 6 team or even top 4 this time next year.

The Moon.

 

 

16 May 2012 13:25:15
I said this a few weeks ago, regarding a potential exodus of players from LFC.
So now we have a potential situation where all transfer discussions are on hold (and have been for a while), managers tenure is unsure, owners not backing manager, no DOF to press negotiations, no indication of a new manager or dof, no indication of the clubs ambitions, a host of executives departing.
The club are in a very difficult place.
Thanks FSG, you really know how to do things "right" (sic).
So ask yourself, if you were a LFC player, would you be happy about all this!.

No, i won't be happy, obviously.

Mr. Nokneejerking

 

 

16 May 2012 13:16:15
Not a rumour..
Four Liverpool players in England Squad:
Steven Gerrard
Glen Johnson
Stewart Downing
Andy Carroll

England squad for Euro 2012:

Goalkeepers: Joe Hart (Man City), Rob Green (West Ham), John Ruddy (Norwich)

Defenders: Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Phil Jones (Man United), John Terry (Chelsea), Joleon Lescott (Man City), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Leighton Baines (Everton)

Midfielders: Theo Walcott (Arsenal), Stewart Downing (Liverpool), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Gareth Barry (Man City), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), Scott Parker (Tottenham), Ashley Young (Man United), James Milner (Man City)

Forwards: Wayne Rooney (Man United), Danny Welbeck (Man United), Andy Carroll (Liverpool), Jermain Defoe (Tottenham)

Wow! striking options look pretty ropey. Think carroll might even start!

They should of put crouch instead of welbeck imagen crouch n carroll from corners damnn

 

 

16 May 2012 13:14:04
ADAM JOHNSON get yourself over to Liverpool and get your regular place in England Squad you deserve

YNWA67

 

 

16 May 2012 13:13:48
Saw some league striker stats yesterday.
Suarez came top of shots missed off target and top four for shots on target.
Carrol was in the top 5 for shots missed off target. Clearly if these are correct, our strikers are not up to it, as we just did not score enough.regardless of what we might think of them.
Add to that Downings terrible stats, we cannot go into next season without making some changes in that area.
I know it sound like the obvious, but in this case the stats tell their own story.
Even with his poor team selections and sometimes weird tactics, Dalglish must be livid with all three of them in private.

An improvement of just 30% on the above would possibly have put us 4th at least.

On the whole the defence has been very good (especially first half of season) apart from the glaring errors when Carra was on and the poor mistakes made by Reina.
Red First & last

Atleast leave a name when you slate somebody, so that others could answer.

Corvin

 

 

16 May 2012 13:10:52
nice too see downing gerrard johnson and carroll in the england squad !

lw12

 

 

16 May 2012 13:09:59
Johnson,Gerrard, Doawning and Carrol in the Euro's squad

cheers Daryll

 

 

16 May 2012 13:08:10
By merely demanding results in no way guarantees them.

In any well run business if a particular individual (employee) is not reaching the targets set, then why not offer help and assistance (training, special courses etc), I feel that FSG have not done enough to assist KK, which is really crazy as he is responsible for a 'key' area of their business.
If KK was supposedly lacking in tactical knowledge, why not help and provide resources and means to improve, instead og just sitting back.
I for one am troubled by FSG's approach, and feel that they are exibiting a real lack of understanding and comprehension about the game of football... Just consider this whole "moneyball" thing, which just sounds like irrelevant 'junk science' to me, and has no real place in football.
Wake up FSG, understand the game.
{Ed001's Note - there is no MONEYBALL in football!!!! It is just imbecilic journalists spoonfeeding idiots who read the papers a soundbite.}

 

 

16 May 2012 13:10:52
nice too see downing gerrard johnson and carroll in the england squad !

lw12

 

 

16 May 2012 13:09:59
Johnson,Gerrard, Doawning and Carrol in the Euro's squad

cheers Daryll

 

 

16 May 2012 13:08:10
By merely demanding results in no way guarantees them.

In any well run business if a particular individual (employee) is not reaching the targets set, then why not offer help and assistance (training, special courses etc), I feel that FSG have not done enough to assist KK, which is really crazy as he is responsible for a 'key' area of their business.
If KK was supposedly lacking in tactical knowledge, why not help and provide resources and means to improve, instead og just sitting back.
I for one am troubled by FSG's approach, and feel that they are exibiting a real lack of understanding and comprehension about the game of football... Just consider this whole "moneyball" thing, which just sounds like irrelevant 'junk science' to me, and has no real place in football.
Wake up FSG, understand the game.

I don't think our manager should need training on tactics. why not employ the the guy who trains the managers the tactics and make him the manager,
that is the stupidest post i have ever read on here

 

 

16 May 2012 13:03:40
ED's or Macca do you think we will do some transfers before 1 July? I know that the transfer window opens 1 july for european clubs (except england and wales), but is the goal to get some of the transfers done before that? Transfers like Podolski to Arsenal and Marin to Chelsea, even if they cant sign before 1 july they are ready for thoose clubs.

Everyone knows that players who play well in the Euro's will be twice as expensive as they are now.

Also wondering if some of you know of any topp class players who is interested in coming to Liverpool even if we don't play Champions League next season (players like Soldado,Munain, Ramirez and more). Comolli said few months ago that many players where interested to be a part of Liverpool, do you know who he was talking about or was it just in general?

The transfer window opens on June 1, not july.

Mr. Nokneejerking {Ed002's Note - July 1.}

 

 

16 May 2012 13:03:04
hi eds do you think there is any chance of pako ayestrayon (spelling i know) could return to the liverpool setup i love kk and want him to stay but his tactics are abit dated but think with pako alongside him we could truly become a force within england and europe. kk, pako and steve plus a few quality signings. any opinions? {Ed001's Note - I don't see any reason why Pako couldn't be persuaded to return.}

 

 

16 May 2012 12:56:00
This mornings story in the Mirror shouldn't be taken to

serious, reading it tells us nothing new, its just a rehash

of what has been said on these pages, and another

reason why it means nothing .... just look at the sports

journalist who wrote it.. Dave Maddock, The only people

who know what happened at the meeting are the people

who were present. So lets all stop second guessing

the board...its getting boring reading the idiotic posts

on here claiming " inside knowledge "

Deano95

 

 

16 May 2012 12:53:07
I think its obvious that the silence coming out of the club at the moment would suggest the owners are undecided on the future of the manager or are looking for a replacement. If they were 100% behind kenny they would of put the rumours to bed by now

Peter {Ed001's Note - don't talk soft. Why would they? That would just cause more rumours to fly about why they felt the need to comment on rumours! We are not run by the media, there should be no need to comment until there is actually something to say. No need to release a statement saying the manager is staying, that just tells everyone you must have thought about replacing him.}

Agree with Ed001!

AG

Ed spot on mate if FSG reacted everytime the press printed something it would be truly bizare ,dont forget guys this is now the silly season until the euros start no football on a weekly basis apart the chelski game so all these jounos have to justify their wages

So it's right that everything is up in the air is it? Yeh, great way to run a club! Well in ed

Peter

Dont you look stupid now hes been sacked ed

Peter {Ed001's Note - no, why would I look stupid? I said they don't need to make a statement until something needs to be announced. You must be stupid for not understanding that!}

I thought it was a credible observation that proved to be right. Try again

Peter {Ed001's Note - you clearly don't think. It was nothing to do with that. Get your head out your own backside.}

 

 

16 May 2012 12:49:11
i'm getting fed up with all the talk about whether Kenny is staying or going! I know they're trying to do it professionally but it's so frustrating for us fans to have to sit waiting. Maccas says he expects Kenny to have one more year, ED002 stands by what he said at christmas and that will leave. It seems no-one really knows for sure which is understandable as no-one's told anyone anything. Sorry for the rant, i just want to know i guess. I know the Eds can 't confirm it though but thanks for all your work!

ED002 IS FEMALE
TIZER RED

 

 

16 May 2012 12:48:40
To Macca's hypothetical comment on keep Kenny for a year and bring in Guardiola. It really would make sense and I certainly feel that Fenway will have looked at this. I also think Guardiola would be open to this - especially if they restructure the club correctly this summer. It's a win-win for me! Kenny does well and stays v doesn't do well and we get Guardiola.

Also ref Rafa coming back - Purslow is still involved with club so chances are slim (from the man himself).

What do Eds think?

Paulo {Ed001's Note - not a chance in my opinion. Though Rafa would jump at the chance if offered.}

Purslow is gone i think

jeff:)

 

 

16 May 2012 12:46:46
Normally when the Liverpool website is quiet. I.e not many post etc this means something is happening. Would you agree? Personally I'd like to see Munian, soldado and Ramirez. We can wish but I have faith in the club!

 

 

16 May 2012 12:36:01
to be Honest any other manager in Kenny's place sure get sacked after the big amount invement. I don't think we can blame the owner if they ask kenny to go. they have been paitent young to see result.

hhh

 

 

16 May 2012 12:35:54
Just read the Glen Johnson interview on Lfc tv

He said that for a brief time this season, he was made the first choice penalty taker. I was not aware of this, quite surprised really. Where's Elm ? :)

 

 

16 May 2012 12:33:27
I have it on now how that carrol is going to single handedly win us the euros no named poster lol. STEMLOCC1

 

 

16 May 2012 12:22:13
If it wasn't Dalglish in charge, another manager would have been under alot more pressure before now, and I think he would have undoubtedly been sacked. I think most of us are fighting with our own consciences because our hearts are saying keep him but our minds are saying don't. But the fact is that our manager IS Dalglish. And the reason why we love him and willing to give him time is that over the last couple of decades he has earned our respect and devotion through his playing abilities, his managerial abilities, and the way he conducted himself when LFC and its supporters were united in untold tradgedies.

When reviewing a season it is quite often easy to forget what has happened early on and just remember what has happened in the last 5-10 games, which for us have been nothing short of disasterous. No-one will know more than Kenny that this season has been a failure, and drastic improvement is needed. Kenny already knows which of signings have been successful and which ones have been failures. But it wasn't that long ago really that we were still in with a genuine chance of a top 4 spot. This season we have played some of our best football for years. We have beaten and outplayed most of the teams that finished above. We won the Carling cup and came runners up in the FA cup, and look at our fixtures of both those cups, not exactly and easy route.

As Macca has stated, if Kenny does genuinely believe he can't take us to the next step he will step aside (something I truely believe). I personally believe that he can, and hopefully will. And its not because of nostalgia, or because of blind belief, but because Kenny has earned the right of my trust. So tell me i'm stuck in the past if you want, but i'm hoping hes still in charge next season and given the chance he deserves to get us really challenging at the top of the table again.

Please lets give him the respect he deserves.

You'll never walk alone

Tommy Walsh

Agree with everything you wrote..
TIZER RED
YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 12:05:49
Hi Eds, Any chance of us signing (insert player I signed on FIFA here) as I've been watching him (this actually means I've been using him on FIFA and he's alright) and he looks good... Reminds me of a young (insert famous footballer here... this also makes me feel like a world class scout.)...

Tippers

This is a joke, right?
TIZER RED

Fifas overall are pretty accurate in my opinion {Ed001's Note - hahaha!!}

I'll take the challenge.

Hi Eds, Any chance of us signing Ahmed Musa of some 2-bob Dutch or Belgian club as I've been watching him and he looks good... Reminds me of a young Luis Figo.

That's right, if it wasn't for FIFA, nobody would have the foggiest what i'm on about. But he does improve massively in his overall rating!

Red7.

Also... RED7, cheers for the tip ;)

tippers

Haha yes it was a joke... the amount of requests I see from people asking about certain names (Henriksen, Jovetic) etc... whom are always just the good players to sign on FIFA. EVERY year it's the same... Abel Hernandez was there, Hazard was there before... you watch. It's rather funny and a massive waste of the Ed's time I would imagine! Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they are decent players in real life who clubs will be watching.. but I guarantee you people are only asking those questions because of FIFA. If FIFA had a player rated 86 called 'IMAMASSIVEBUMHOLE', he'd be spotted at melwood still I'm sure...

 

 

16 May 2012 12:05:10
hi eds just wondering if you knew when the majority of club transfers would be done before or after the euros? btw great site keep up the excellent work {Ed001's Note - how the hell would anyone know that?????}

ED001, was just wondering who you think Liverpool will sign in 2029?? Also what dates they will sign on and the amount?? :p lol

TIZER RED
YNWA {Ed001's Note - you will get lock jaw if you keep sticking your tongue in your cheek like that!}

What's up ED001, is your crystal ball not working? Lol..
TIZER RED

 

 

16 May 2012 12:03:47
good morning eds,just a quick note on aquilani,was it a ploy by milan not to let him play the required games to trigger the move,if so,where does he go from here?do you feel its getting a bit ridiculous..thank you.rosred
{Ed001's Note - yes, they stopped picking him and bought someone else because he simply wasn't up to the level they expected. He simply isn't that good, which is why Rafa was so reluctant to play him after seeing him train. I really don't care what happens to him, just so long as we get his work shy backside off our wage bill so we can get a proper player, who wants to be here, in instead.}

Ed, I read where his agent is saying if he hadn't picked up an injury then he would have certainly made the 25 appearances necessary to trigger the buyout clause, but that is simply not true, is it? Like you said, I thought Milan intentionally stopped picking him because they did not want to trigger the buyout clause.

I agree with you, I want him off our wage bill too, but how is that going to happen? He still has two years on his contract, and it doesn't appear anyone wants him.

-Red Socks

 

 

16 May 2012 12:09:54
I hate starting a post like this but a frind of a friend ( i know) has told me that diame is a done deal to liverpool this friends friend is a phsio at wigan he also told me liverpool were after martinez 5 weeks ago but i ignored him maybe i shouldnt have

Don't worry mate, it wasn't so much how you started your post, as it was the general content of your post.

 

 

16 May 2012 12:00:51
So looks like Carroll is off to England.

A double edged sword...If he gets some game time and maybe grabs a goal or 2, could do wonders for his confidence.
But if he picks up a knock, could be months of absence and regaining fitness again.

Andy really needs to hit the ground running next season, so what do you think, is it good or bad that he's getting called up?

Kez

Good experience.
Keeps him occupied. And he may well get a game early doors, with Rooney being out for two matches. Then, if he does well, who knows ?
The Real KB

Bad! Hate it when our players are picked for England. Waste of time

After seeing the way he ripped terry apart i think this can only wonders for his confidence and he truly deserves it after the abuse he has dealt with this season.

Bad! Hate it when our players are picked for England. Waste of time

After seeing the way he ripped terry apart i think this can only wonders for his confidence and he truly deserves it after the abuse he has dealt with this season.

For me its good. he will play teams with different styles and will probably get better service then at liverpool. good learning experience and potential confidence boost.

Red Rout

Normally I couldn't care less about England and would prefer our players to not be picked as they will only pick up injuries and get no rest in the summer.

However, I think Carroll's call-up is good news. Carroll is a big lad who needs to be playing regularly to keep his fitness up, players of his build are not suited to rotation. You look at Carroll's best games for us and it was in the last couple of months when started a lot more games. Drogba is similar, he started very game under Mourinho but when Scolari and AVB were managers and he didn't start as regularly his form went out of the window.

If Carroll can return after the Euro's with the same form and fitness he showed for us towards the end of the season it will be great news as we need him to hit the floor running next season.

JRG

Kez I think it's a good thing because he hasn't played that much this season and needs the game time. If he carries of where he left off that's good news for Liverpool

TIZER RED

Good. He needs to feel important, andwith the strikers offered, and rooney suspended, i see him starting 11

Ben the red

On the assumption that he doesn't get a knock, he will be fit for the new season and can start up and running, regardless of if he scores or not. It would banish any potential holiday laziness that may creep in, same goes for Downing... Positive all round in my opinion
NextGenRed

I think you nailed it, Kez mate. I'd love to see big Andy bag a few goals, get the confidence flowing, keep his conditioning with game action, and avoid picking up a knock. Perfect scenario, hopefully it pans out.

-Red Socks

 

 

16 May 2012 11:54:14
All that money spent and you end the season 4 points below one of the poorest(financially) teams in the league who also happen to be everton! How does that make you feel? Is the carling cup enough for liverpool? Does it offer some sort of consolation? Not only did you finish behind everton but you were miles away from ever competing for a champions league spot which is where you claim you belong! Was your poor season down to Kenny or the players? Or maybe you are no longer a club other teams fear! You better hope for some decent signings in the summer or next season will be worse!

It does seem that everton fear us. Cannot get a result against us.
Robbie

It does seem that everton fear us. Cannot get a result against us.
Robbie

Liverpool have had a very poor season in which we win won 1 cup and made the finals in the other yet this is deemed not good enough. Yet Everton have had a great season with no cups or finals and still finished outside of the Europa spot. Think that says it all, if we were classed as a small club like yourselves are season would of been called a success. Next year will be a different story, we know were we have to inprove our squad and we will. You will be so far behind us that people like you wont even dare come on our site because you will just get laughed at.

WB

So what MR BLUE-NOSE, I bet you'd swap places in the league with Liverpool if it ment you won the the Carling Cup?

How many times have you won the CC by the way??
Infact when was the last time you even won a trophy??

You've probably had one of your best seasons for years, while ours is the worst and your still only one place above us.

Despite our league form, we still managed to beat yous THREE times this season.

YNWA
TIZER RED

 

 

16 May 2012 11:47:14
I would sign

De jong man city 7million
Edin Dzecko man city 15 million
Roberto Soldado 20 million
Dempsey 10 million
Hoilett (free)

The above players would make a massive difference

does anyone agree, because everytime i write something everyone is like noooooooooo all the time

keep spearing then shall we.

LTP

Yes we should keep spearing - maybe people say nooooooo coz you dont know what your on about!!

The fact that you want Dzecko when we have Andy Caroll makes me hit the disagree button. I'd take the rest tho..

TIZER RED

Whilst I do rate Dzeko & De Jong I image they are both paid more than Stevie G so it ain't gonna happen, did I imagine it or did I read an article on SSN that Yaya Toure is trying to engineer an increase of his 260k a week salary, they r truly killing anyone's chance of signing top players other than them, getting stupid now.

Chiz

 

 

16 May 2012 11:45:14
I imagine any sort of announcement by FSG will be around tea time here due to time difference. What would be the point in dragging it out if they want Kenny gone? Will they wait until they have a replacement?

Gazman

I was right for once

Gazman

 

 

16 May 2012 11:26:32
Someone earlier posted about kk gettin 70mil to play with, if true should by lucas moura, mountiniho (spelling) and a young cb someone like benedetti or ogbonna

 

 

16 May 2012 11:00:47
I feel a great many of the headlines surrounding Liverpool are misleading, as they so often seem to be. To try to put a little perspective on the Fenway Sports Group ownership.

Fenway bought Liverpool for £300 million in a deal forced through by RBS. (The club had a further £50 million debts relating to operations) Fenway did very well out of this deal in business terms. While the old adage always applies of the business being worth what the next person will pay its safe to assume that they got a great deal. The following will go some way to explaining why.

Liverpool is a global brand the club's trademarks and associated intellectual property alone valued at £141m. Liverpool have a brand rating of AA (Very Strong). In April 2010 business magazine Forbes ranked Liverpool as the sixth most valuable football team in the world, behind Manchester United, Real Madrid, Arsenal, Barcelona and Bayern Munich; they valued the club at $822m (£532m), excluding debt. Accountants Deloitte ranked Liverpool eighth in the Deloitte Football Money League, which ranks the world's football clubs in terms of revenue. Liverpool's income in the 2009–10 season was €225.3m.

Liverpool reported a £49.4m annual loss in 2011, although this figure does not include a new £25m kit deal with Warrior Sports. This figure also included major right offs on stadium development costs from the last owners. These debts were there when they bought the club and go to dispel any notion that FSG on top of the £300 million paid, also paid off the club debits. They paid off the previous owners debts to the banks which was the £300 million but the clubs debts remain with the club and are being paid for from operating profit. There is nothing wrong with this as a business model but we should focus on the investment made.



In Summary

FSG bought a business worth roughly £500 million for £300 million.

There has been no investment in a new/redeveloped stadium. All the other clubs in the above list have stadia vastly bigger than Anfield.

The investment figures being bandied about in the papers for Dalglish's time in charge are simply misleading. Its not £110 million its £37.5 million net spend.

FSG have invested but not to any great extent. Manchester united spent over £50 million on just 3 players in summer 2011 and this after winning the league and reaching the Champions league final.

The price FSG paid for Liverpool reflected the need for major funding in both playing staff and a stadium.

Neither look to be on the FSG agenda anytime soon

It dont matter that you saved one end n shelled out , if you let 110 mill go , u spent 110 its simple

Without either redevelopment of Anfield or a new stadium, LFC will gradually go down to being an also ran. Without the long term financial stability that a new stadium brings, we'll never be able to compete for the best players, coaches or managers. 4th place, CL or any other cup are only short term goals, and even yearly investment infusions are not going to do much for the long term. ra1969

 

 

16 May 2012 12:17:18
Eds, at what time will the england squad be announced/ revealed? {Ed003's Note - 1 pm }

Not a bad england team to be honest would have liked to see aaron lennon in there thou

 

 

16 May 2012 11:28:41
dont know why any of you keep saying kk has gone. none of you know and never will till the club say. so stop talking sh*t. i would of thought they would of said by now if he was to go. so he is still the manger. so lets get behide him and hope he can pull it off next season.

Well said mate!

billynwa

 

 

16 May 2012 10:43:14
hi eds i think christian streich is the best possible option for replace king kenny because he promotes young players. he is the right man for the long term success.

 

 

16 May 2012 10:42:48
I would have wished a little more respect for the King by our owners but that doesn't shock me, they are the bosses, so it's normal.

But some of the fans do shock me. It's not some overrated mercenary we're talking about, it's the KING.

How can you say in one sentence that he's a legend and in the next ask for his head?

Marc

Fair enough he is the King but any other manager would have been sacked due to their poor showing in the premiership and the money wasted. The owners want to see a profit for their investment and they are not getting it.

All the way mate, hes got my backing!

billynwa

Kenny took us to a placewhere we hadny been for 6 years...WEMBLEY....AND he did it 3 times, winning one of the two major cups available.

We narrowly missed out on the FA Cup and qualified for Europa league in HIS FIRST FULL SEASON

Dalglish has done superb..... try being supporters instead of sheep

Tel 1949

 

 

16 May 2012 10:41:22
Question for the eds ! What is the fixation with roberto martinez of wigan ? He managed a club this season that just about staved off relegation , has not won anything as a manager of any importance at all ,has no proven track record of been able to manage a high profile club but still some people on here think hes the buisness ? why ? whats so special about this UNspecail ? {Ed001's Note - because he plays decent football and has shown a willingness to be flexible. Most importantly of all, the media is constantly telling us how great he is.}

To be fair, he is a really good manager, those 7 from 9 he won to stay up, they were not flukes, and to get those results from a very ordinary squad, it shows skill. Not to mention Swansea, he was the catylist for their current style of play.

 

 

16 May 2012 10:35:24
Until the Manager and DoF positions for next season are confirmed, all player rumours or questions are irrelevant. Whoever fills these positiuons will have their own players in mind.

Would this be accurate Ed?

Red G {Ed001's Note - partially, depends on if FSG have already made their decisions and just made no confirmation of them. In which case, they could already have a list of targets to get.}

 

 

16 May 2012 10:35:23
Good morning to all LFC fans in suspense ...

It's so exciting ...the trepidation the expectations...

The outright '' what the bloody hell's going on '' feeling

It reminds me of the old Roman Emperors ...

A clear case of go and fall on your sword syndrome...

Lets face it KD has failed the Empire ...however he is still pondering the chance of a reprieve ...

Will the mob revolt ?

Or will they bay for his blood ?


Infamy infamy...they have all got it in for me...:)

Blue247

Hello sadandblue. He hasn't had 10 years of failure yet so he will be OK.
Kev

Oh god fella you are just boring and remind me of that tit Sir Alex x, I bet you've just changed your name. Next time you change your name simply sign it TIT then we'll all know.

TAA LAA

Lol
k-h

But kenny jousted well in the bubbling caldron of wembley on 2 occasions.
VICTORY VICTORY as silverwear was held aloft and the scalp of moyes was paraded in front of the blood thirsty reds ,
5gold stars

Hello Kev...

Tell that to the Celtic or Newcastle fans..

Methinks quite a few of them would wholeheartedly disagree ...

Hey look I can only give my genuine opinion...and this is it...

KD is sulking because FSG have told him his transfer budget is to be reduced to below his (KD's ) worst way scenario...and consequently he needs time to think about it...

If I'm right ...then you lot will have a new (and better ) Manager very soon...

Blue247

Taa Laa...That ''tit'' as you stupidly called him... Sir Alex... is ahead of your KD by a country mile... (what an understatement that was )

Keep those hands in your pockets unless they are being worked by a brain...

Blue247

Hey Fivers...

He kinda Fizzled out the third time he went in that cauldron though ...eh?

Blue247

Blue247 AKA TIT, Sir Alex x was a poster on these boards for a while thats who i was referring to not taggart himself you ' TIT ' .
Oh and by the way i notice you never mentioned your own manager being a country mile ahead of King Kenny why is that i wonder? 17 years and counting must hurt you bitters!

TAA LAA

 

 

16 May 2012 10:30:28
Ed, Frank Rijkaard do you think he would be a good option of Kenny were to leave ?

Cheers
Aussie red {Ed001's Note - no.}

Wow..... Most over-rated manager i've seen..... EVER! yes he won the CL, well, he put his name to it, Ronaldinho and co won the CL, just as much as arsenal lost it.

 

 

16 May 2012 11:35:26
========Reina========
Johnson=Skrtel=Agger=Enrique
=====Lucas===Martinez====
=======Gerrard=========
==Suarez======Munain==
========Falcao=======

Jarvis fletcher and diame instead

I can't see Falcao coming at all...this is your dream squad not your realistic squad i take it?

Is this your FIFA team??

TIZER RED

Would love that team but i'd say no chance sorry

Great team, but would cost near on 80m to get the 3 new guys. Where we gonna get that from. Munian is the only one that might want to come, martinez and Falcao we have no chance of getting to Anfield. Also not sure if Enrique is as good as we thought he was, takes too many risks in our half.
Red First & Last.

And when you awoke from your dream you realised that spearing and downing were still on the teamsheet alongside the free/cheap signings fsg are going to force upon us this summer!

 

 

16 May 2012 11:27:31
I don't claim to know anything, but I think the longer that there is silence after Monday's meeting, the worse it looks for Kenny's future. If eveything was okay with his job, surely FSG or even Kenny would have said so by now - it only takes a couple of minutes to dictate a press statement.

I suspect FSG are doing what they always planned to do at end of season - exploring other options for manager - and will not be bullied into making announcements until they are ready to do so.

I dont see why they should issue a press release, the whole histeria is caused by the Manc press making up stories, simply ignore them and think for yourself. we've never aired our dirty laundry in public before so why should we now.

Why do FSG or Kenny need to dictate a press release. He is the manager, end of story. the only reason they would need to release something is if he resigned or was fired.

an american red

 

 

16 May 2012 11:24:47
All you people wanting Rafa back need to remember it was he who failed to qualify for the CL in his last season. It was Roys fault we never had Europa last season. I'm not saying Rafa was all bad, he did some good for the club that is only just starting to show (youth) Let's face it, do we really want to go back to the days of defensive football? I have much respect for what he's done, but for me kenny should get another season and then evaluate it from there.

This season we have returned to Europe, have a trophy to add to the collection and reached the final in the FA Cup.

YNWA
TIZER RED

Defensive football? :s sure we had one of our highest scoring seasons ever under rafa?
It's that "defensive" football that we finished second with? Or the 2 CL semis?

Think some fans need to rethink what the man actually did for the club in his time.

Jman {Ed001's Note - he did play defensive football, it doesn't matter how many goals were scored. Wimbledon used to score lots of goals, does that mean they played great football? By your reckoning it must!}

I understand where you're coming from Tizer Red and Rafa did a lot of bad stuff like getting us into more debt etc but he did keep us in the Champions League most seasons.
Our premier League position this year was dreadful and our worst points tally for how many years....that speaks for itself.
I don't want Rafa back but i really don't believe Kenny can take us further. If he stays, i'll support him 100% and hopefully he'll prove me wrong

Rafa did some good? 2 European cup finals were pure luck eh?

You really are special Tizer

Gazman

In rafas time at LFC he tried to sign:
Villa - but due to lack of backing got Voronin
Villa + Kuyt - But due to lack of backing got only Kuyt
Silva - but again got Riera because of no backing
Barry - but due to lack of backing got nobody
Jovetic - but again no funds meant we got aquilani
Dani Alves - but due to rick parry not sanctioning the money for a 'risk', he turned to Glen Johnson instead.

His only bad decision was trying to sell Alonso for Barry. Every manager signs flops, but Rafa's weren't that bad. His net spend over 6 and a half years was £78m.. Thats about £13m a year! United consistently spent £30m and you wonder why we couldn't keep up? Our team should've looked like this..

-------------------Torres------------------
Silva-------------Gerrard------------Villa
-----------Barry----------Mascherano----
Aurelio-------Agger----Skrtel------Alves
--------------------Reina------------------

Back up keeper, Dossena, Carragher, Lucas, Jovetic, Babel, Kuyt

So stfu insulting the greatest tactician this club has had since Paisley, the best eye for talent since Shankly and the guy who put us back on the map after 2 decades of hurt.

In Rafas final year his net spend was -£4.5m (yes he made money!) and we came 7th. Dalglish just net spent £40m and came 8th. Rafa lost his job...

YNWA! (Adam)

Gazman, your missing the point. Rafa did do well for us but not brilliantly. He had 6 years and couldn't deliver a title. When he left we were one point away from administration and we had crap players on big wages. We are not in this mess because of kenny but because we failed to qualify for the CL last year. Our club was already on its ass before kenny took over and a complete rebuild was needed. Rebuilding a team takes time and I have strong believes that kenny's needs another season to get it right. There is no doubt that the team has shown some fantastic football at times and when this team hits form will destroy anyone in the prem especially with the right signings. We need to get some consistency going next season and support Kenny all the way. Rafa seemed more interested in the CL then the prem and I think if we get a new manager it should be someone like capello. The football's crap but he gets results.

TIZER RED

 

 

16 May 2012 11:21:55
why does he deserve one more year? He has guided us from 7th last season to 8th this season, and has presided over our clubs worst season in a gazillion years!

steve
-------------------------
Last season certainly was not your standard 'poor season'. Crazy things happened that will not happen again for a very long time.

Lucas' bad injury, the Suarez/Evra affair and our love for the woodwork.

All we need in our squad is genuine quality out wide, a striker that knows where the goal is and good cover for Lucas.

Stone YNWA.

Yes stone mate! i swear noone is looking at the bigger picture, work in progress! brand new team (man city took 3 years with all the money in the world)

billynwa

Hello Stone.

"All we need in our squad is genuine quality out wide, a striker that knows where the goal is and good cover for Lucas."

I agree. But this assumption is based on us playing a settled system - a flexible 442 with Carroll and Suarez upfront - our best system.

If only you or I could communicate that to Kenny, maybe we'd be fine -

But when planning for transfer targets, we cannot assume either that Kenny will play with wide-men and two strikers, because a lot of the time he will not.

He usually likes to change from this system after we have won a game and played well.

He will also play 'wingers' on their opposite sides (Downing on the right etc) whilst admitting it 'doesn't do them any favours'.

Why he does so is inexplicable - like many of his decisions.

Changing the system after good performances.

Playing players in the wrong positions.

Dropping players when they are playing well.

Persisting with players who aren't performing.

If he dealt with a lot of this in the Jan window, we may well have finished higher - but he insisted our squad was fine - only to complain about them being tired when results went bad - and we had no Europe this year.

And now he's saying no-one's for sale, our squad is still great and we're just unlucky.

There's more to this than bad luck.

God.

The more I think about it..... he just has to go....

BJH YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 11:17:36
Don't understand why some fans want to get rid of kenny and bring rafa back, kenny has had one full season, won us the carling cup, got to the fa cup final, we're back in europe again albeit europa league, got rid of alot of crap that roy and rafa bought and brought in alot of players who prob needed that first season to gel, i know we've had some poor results in the league and not a good finish by liverpools standards, but we've had a bit of misfortune as well, lucas out injured for half a season(our best mid imo at the min), gerrard in and out all year, also missing suarez for nine games in a row does'nt help, we should stick with kenny for at least another year me thinks. YNWA KOPBOB

 

 

16 May 2012 10:46:15
i wanted kenny to take us to the next level , kenny is liverpool through and through , but all he has done is take us backwards , he had the chance to get some get very good players but he bottled it , like he did in january when he never bought a goal scorer , jelavic wanted to come to us but we pulled out , and the reason i think was because we won 3 games on the run , we played man city in the cup , the man utd in the cup then we played wolves ,we beat the 3 of them and 2 players wre up for man of the match , they were andy carrol and craig bellamy , after these games he dropped both of them and the rest is history , but we all knew before the january window that we needed a goal scorer , if jelavic scored 12 goals for everton who dont make the same amount of chance we do then imagine how many he would have scored with us , maybe we never bought anyone because they were not british , which is a worry because that means in the summer we wont go for any very good player , only mediocre one from here , kenny has failed he made the club go backwards and broke all the wrong records , there is nothing to suggest he has learnt a lesson , and by what he says about bad luck means he will carry on playing the same way with the same players , downing should never play for us again but kenny sees him as an important player for us ,thats another reason kenny should go ,,,,,,,,,,mickey b

Ok fair enough, we have gone backwards in terms of the league position. (one place) However, we have moved forward in terms of;
We have shifted all the underperforming players on huge salaries.
We have a new and improved kit manufacturer.
We have brought in younger players who are on much lower wages, who want to play for the club.
We have achieved European football, something we never archived last season.
The style of football has improved dramatically.
We have won our first trophy in years and runners up in the FA CUP.

I reckon that's enough evidence to suggest the club have moved forward since last year.

Ok our league form MUST improve bit how can you say we have gone backwards? What you must remember is, last year we was inches away from administration.

We have moved forward, just a few steps, rather than a few strides.

Keep the faith, it's not as bad as people are making out.

TIZER RED
YNWA

Ok fair enough, we have gone backwards in terms of the league position. (one place) However, we have moved forward in terms of;
We have shifted all the underperforming players on huge salaries.
We have a new and improved kit manufacturer.
We have brought in younger players who are on much lower wages, who want to play for the club.
We have achieved European football, something we never archived last season.
The style of football has improved dramatically.
We have won our first trophy in years and runners up in the FA CUP.

I reckon that's enough evidence to suggest the club have moved forward since last year.

Ok our league form MUST improve bit how can you say we have gone backwards? What you must remember is, last year we was inches away from administration.

We have moved forward, just a few steps, rather than a few strides.

Keep the faith, it's not as bad as people are making out.

TIZER RED
YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 10:08:48
hi eds im just wondering on your opinion of people calling for rafa back? i no he done a good job but he also caused alot of controversy off the pitch so i for one would back kk 100% but if he were to leave id rather see a new manager rather then take a step backwards {Ed001's Note - I think they need to move on and stop with this constant whining on about a man. If they actually understood football finances, and didn't just take the word of Rafa about everything, they would know H&G were misled by Rafa as much as he was misled by them. They would know he blamed everything on them rather than admit his own failings, which were many. He spent far too much, had far too high a turnover of players and paid those he brought to the club far too much. He compounded it all by falling out with Pako Ayesteran and was never the same without his input. Reminds me of Clough after losing Peter Taylor, with him they were great, without him Clough was just an average manager.}

Talking of pako do you think there is ant possibility he could return if asked? {Ed001's Note - not to work with Rafa I don't. To come back otherwise? Yes, I am sure he would return and be welcomed back too.}

 

 

16 May 2012 10:05:27
Kenny if your reading this, please step up the interest in Lucas Moura... he will be the heart of Brazils national team for years to come alongside our very own Lucas Leiva and is the missing link between attack and midfield that we've been missing since the 08/09 season. Also bought him on football manager for around £32m - a very good buy
YWNA

 

 

16 May 2012 09:57:41
All this talk of Kenny's replacement is disrespectful to our clubs greatest servant in my opinion, but to all those who think that Rafa wouldnt bite FSG's hand off if he was offered the job back regardless of how much power he did or didnt have, think again.

Rafa is obsessed with getting the LFC job back. The small print matters little. He insisted on having full control at a time when the owners and execs couldnt be trusted (Parry, Purslow, H&G). FSG are different. If the job were available, Rafa would make consessions to get it, thats for sure.

Anyway, I hope its irrelevant because Kenny stays on for another year at least. As a club, LFC owes Kenny that much. With some of those woodwork stats converted into goals, a couple of new signings and Andy Carroll starting next season as he finished this one, things are not as bad as people think.

LFC supporters are renowned for their patience and football knowledge. Lets back Kenny.

Red G

 

 

16 May 2012 09:57:24
just a general comment, the owners should just put all of the speculation about kenny to bed and stop all of the speculation in the media. cheers. rich.YNWA.

 

 

16 May 2012 10:35:39
Lawrenson expects Kenny to stay on as manager.......looks like he's gone then so!!

 

 

16 May 2012 10:29:39
When your boss offers you another job and you turn it down. You are history.

 

 

16 May 2012 10:22:50
adel taarabt to liverpool ? ed?

jeff:) {Ed003's Note - I doubt it }

 

 

16 May 2012 10:08:03
One of the things that is surely lacking at the club is a British/European chairman. A John Smith type of person who engages in the day to day running of the club and liases between the manager and the owners. A football man and not a bean-counter only.
Red4Life

Those tasks would fall under the remit of the DOF, the club are currently looking to appoint someone within that position.

 

 

16 May 2012 09:49:18
Season overview, reasons why I think KD should be replaced:
1) 100m spent and not one quality player.
2) Kept playing Downing even though he went missing in most games.
3) Dropped Maxi even though he was playing well and popping in goals.
4) Kept playing Henderson on the wing even though was useless there.
5) In the FA cup tactically we were set up to play defensivly and not loose an early goal. Should have started with Maxi and Carrol. Had we had Caroll from the start and played to OUR strenghts we would have won as Chelsea were there for the taking as the last half hour showed.
6) No striker bought in Jan to provide cover and options,said he was happy with what he got.
7) No cover for Lucus, most important position to me as it provides cover for other midfield players and strikers to stay up field. We hardly have 1/2 players in the box untill we are a goal down in the last 10 mins. Spearing is no replacement for Lucus.
8) Not tactically acute like other managers.
9) Not playing more youngsters in meaningless games.
10) From some of the players body language you can tell that they have lost faith in him.

Discuss!

MrT

I don't know how we miss Jalavic this guy is rock and price just £5m

With regards to the fa cup it is ridiculous to say what he should have just because the game is over. He picked the team that thrashed Norwich the week before and the others let themselves down against fulham.

We lost cus Enrique and reina had a mare . If he is to be criticised then it should be cus he didn't drop them long ago

Cp

Not one quality player? If you are quoting £100 million then you must be including Suarez.
What about gettting rid of the dross Hodgson left us with and other players on high wages?

OK Mr T just send CV off to FSG and the job will be yours. Could argue many of your points but you obviously in depth knowledge of the players and a wealth of Premier League experience which I don't have.
At least you didn't mention that the players have not been eating enough snickers bars!
Kev

Tactically ACUTE? Hmmm...Think the expression you're looking for is ASTUTE. Unless you think KD doesn't look at tactics from all angles??
Red4Life

Not all tactics in football are the obvious ones like ATTACK or DEFEND, and THAT'S THE WRONG FORMATION, there are many, MANY subtle little traits that a team must take on from week to week, forever changing. This is why it takes teams a year or so to gel, this is why when people say "he has no tactical awareness" they genuinely have no idea what they're talking about.
Football is not a matter of "use the tactics the fans want and you'll win, because the other team is just a bunch of rubber models set out in a particular formation, so all you have to do is not be where they are". There is more to it than that, and as we've seen, other teams have tactics too... which may cancel out our tactics due to lack of cohesion within the relatively newly formed squad.
As far as knowing a players movements and as far as being able to nut out a gameplan, there are not many better than K. Dalglish. Whether people genuinely understand the game, or people just think they already do, we'll only see the obvious evidence of change when the players DO THEIR JOB. Our build-up from the base of midfield is as strict and sound as it's been in almost 25 years, and our players awareness for the entire 90 mins is outstanding, but there is much more for them to learn, and Kenny IS smart enough, he needs cooperation and another season.

People can't go on thinking football is as simple as "should've started Carroll" or "one up front doesn't work against Stoke". We'll quite simply never know exactly which tactics are employed, and chances are, we wouldn't understand the vast majority of the instructions given to players at this level, but they need time too, and i can guarantee that KKs tactical awareness is much more intricate than what half these players are used to.

How about this.
Kenny has one more year, if we don't challenge for 4th spot, he'll leave by his own accord.
Or at the very least, trust that he loves the club enough to know when the issues we face are not his own, and when they become his issues, he would surely step down.
I think people want to make him look like he's hurting the club without caring, so as to justify their recent negativity toward him.

"8) Not tactically acute like other managers" - Christ mate, firstly, how the f**k would you know, and secondly, we know very well just how much this man knows about the opposition he faces, yes modern football is different, but he hasn't been living on the moon, and is OBVIOUSLY still carrying his tactical awareness. Because if he wasn't, and the players put in the same effort as they did in a few of the matches this year, we would've conceded double figures, ok...

So all i can say, is forget this year happened, you really think hiring a new manager now is going to speed anything up?, it can't and won't, and in 12 months time you may well be cheering Kenny's name again, and it'll be all the sweeter when i not only get to rub opposition supporters noses in it, but also the ultra-negative fans of my own club.

Peace!

Red7.

 

 

16 May 2012 09:48:41
Odds are shortening on Benitez being the next manager, I personally think this would be a great move as he knows the club already, I know people say in his last season we finished Seventh, yet we was 23 points of the top team that season and only on the last week of the season missed out on champions league. this season we finished lower a country mile off the top, with a board that has backed Kenny and given him the money that Rafa was after in the summer after us narrowly missing out on the title. I rate Kenny the style of football he is trying to implement is the Liverpool way but I do believe in the modern game Rafa would be the best working alongside Kenny in a different role.

The football under Benitez was appalling, I would be gutted to see him back!

That might be the case coz Rafa has not been saying much lately.

Odds Shmodds, you do realise that even bookies don't entirely decide the odds, the punters do!
If a splash comes from some Wishful Willy, praying that Rafa comes back, then the odds are dialled in, not only so the bookies don't do their tits in just incase some Hopeful Harry also spots the deal and has a win, but to attract him to have a flutter in the first place, if he sees the odds moving, he jumps on the bandwagon doesn't he? So more bets placed, the shorter the odds, NOT the better the chance. It couldn't be more simple, but people think the bookies know something, and that they're somehow keeping quiet even though they AALLL know the secret news.

All the bookies want, is for more people to bet, but somehow for them to make more money. The perfect [legal] crime.

Red7.

 

 

16 May 2012 09:45:12
I think it really comes down to would we trust giving KK say 50m to improve the team would he actually make things better? I mean we still need a striker and a right winger problems that have needed solving at the start of KK's reign and he hasnt solved them I would like to see someoneelse as manager

Kenny hasn't got a clue when it comes to buying players..(newcastle fans know)...Spearing and Henderson in FA cup final??
Can't trust him with another £50M, because if he blows that too...we will be finished as well as the laughing stock in PL...please KK, move upstairs and let Rafa come back...

There are hundreds of other teams with different managers, take your pick

 

 

16 May 2012 09:44:57
Its amazing how many of you have got sources and inside info if Kennys so tight lipped and FSG do things properly. Give your heads a wobble lads you're not fooling anyone

SHED END

Fancy that? I agree with SHED END.

Lol and that's from a Chelsea fan. Unfortunately, he's correct

cozinoz

That comment from a Chelsea fan actually came closer to being in support of Liverpool and many of our "fans" posts on here.

 

 

16 May 2012 09:43:21
The Daily Mirror reported that FSG offered Dalglish a different job which he refused, and that the talks did not go well. If this is the case, they really want another manager. Dalglish has already been informed that he will be replaced.

Where i am sitting, it is currently 10:27pm, if i got a call from a tabloid journalist telling me it was dark outside... i'd still go have a look for myself, and i'd still call him a c**t at the end of the phonecall. How would the Mirror have any idea of what happened in those meetings?

Red7.

 

 

16 May 2012 09:42:51
hi eds with spurs prob goin end up buying adebayor if the price and everyfing else being reasonable do you think there is a chance defoe could be leaving? i no he wouldnt be everyones choice but he has proved he scores goals where ever he goes and chances are he would come cheap if he was to leave

From an arsenal fan....

your better than adebayor

THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is why narcotics - and in this particular case, home-made crack cocaine - are illegal...

 

 

16 May 2012 09:42:30
Hey eds/macca

Any news on the England team yet?

Cheers
Davis93 {Ed023's Note - Reports suggest Rio, Walker, Richards & Crouch will miss out. Carrol will go}

Rio and Walker are injured. Hes no taking Richards! why crouch i can understand but richards!

I would take Walker.

 

 

16 May 2012 09:41:31
Getting away from the kd out circus i spent the night watching a great doc on lfc history. Something some of our younger supporters NEED to do, anyway I was reflecting on all the great players we have had over the years and I started to think who has been our greatest striker in our history.

The list for me contains:
Ian St John
Keegan
Toshack
Dalglish
Aldridge
Fowler
Owen
Collymore
Rush
Torres
Suarez
Kuyt

There will be more names I am sure, so please feel free to add them. I know this is subjective, but for me it has to be Kevin, he was a little before my time to really appreciate him but his contribution to the club winning titles and their first european trophy and excitement factor contributed to me becoming a liverpool fan as a youngster.

Who was yours?

Slimboy

For me it's Kenny or Rush. Both were simply phenomenal.
KiwiRed

Ian Rush because he is my legend no better finisher as far as I am concerned

No hunt?

I would have loved to have seen some of the older generation players mate, like Harry Bradshaw, Billy Liddell or Roger Hunt. Personally, though, for me (or at least during my time I've been supporting Liverpool) it's got to be between Rush or Fowler.

Cuchulainn's Hounds

PS.... Slimboy, you missed SIR Roger Hunt off your list!

I would have to say owen for the same reason he was the reason i started supporting liverpool and to be honest he was very unfortunate to play for a very average liverpool team under houllier he should have won more in his career but thats how things go sometimes

Rush, everytime.
had the lot, guaranteed goals, link up was great, both feet, head.
ok, more of a poacher but still scored some absolute beauts.
but i would have any except Miss Torres and colly aside Luis today.
Piddy.

Good shout Slimboy. Those calling for Kenny's head need to take some history lessons!

Rushie is our record scorer with almost 346 goals, so case closed for me!

When you look at other clubs individual scoring records, you get to realise just how immense he (and the Liverpool team he played in!) really was.....

LIVERPOOL - IAN RUSH 346
Tottenham - Greaves 266
Man U - Charlton 249
Leeds - Lorimer 238
Arsenal - Henry 229
Newcastle - 206
Chelsea - Tambling 202
Man City - Brook 176

Having said that, I have a soft spot for Robbie Fowler as well as a natural goalscorer (great goals and tap ins).

Red G

Well im 30 now and robbie fowler was my favourite striker for lfc ,clinical best finisher to play the game .

jeff:)

Rush..As he was the man as I was growing up. But 2007 Torres was formidable and brought optimism of our first title in years.
Davey Liver

Fowler by a country mile

cozinoz

Hunt

Redman yrt96 ynwa

I would delete Collymore (disruptive)and kuyt ( never really been played as a striker and given the chance to paoch in the area which I think is his strength). I'd add Roger Hunt to the list though. only from those that I have seen though. We had earlier ones that are legends.

Iggypop {Ed001's Note - I would take out Owen as well, he was never close to Fowler in terms of ability. If Houllier had not built the team around him completely, so every chance would fall to his feet in matches (and he did miss far too many), he would be just seen as a very good striker. He was far from great. Collymore was barely adequate for us. He was more of a millstone around the team's neck dragging it down. The guy couldn't even be bothered to turn up to Melwood most days. Only Dalglish, Rush, Fowler and, possibly, Torres and Aldridge can really claim to be greats from my time. But I have never seen Tosh play, nor Keegan for us.}

Collymore in but no roger hunt? {Ed001's Note - or Billy Liddell!!!}

Listen i dont like the way all you. Old crinckles keep going on about how us younger generation are not real supporters you need to wake up get somebody to make you a cup of coffe a grab your zimma frame go help you sit down near the tv and put on lfc tv and watch the older grneration play foot ball it is obvious you want it back how it used to be well sorry mate football has moved on since back then but it seems you older fans ALONG WITH KENNY ARE STUCK IN THE GOLDEN AGE AND DO NOT appreciate what we are trying to do now for the club. If raffa needs to be brought in to help the team out and challenge for things then so b it stop wishfull thinking that your tennage spice boy idol can work his magic in the modern day game I more than anybody wanted kenny to do well but obviously it hasent worked out somebody who can handle the pressure ov an interview kenny is worse than woy if you ask me at interviews ANYWAY WHAT IM TRYING TO SAY IS stop slating younger people for wanting success at the club we grew up supporting seriously man we no what is needed at our club just as much as all you (FOSSILS) haha sorry about the rant people. STEMLOCC1 {Ed001's Note - so you are telling us that all you care about is the glory is it? You haven't a clue how to even type intelligible sentences and then you try and talk down to people. You really don't help yourself.}

Well I'd never vote for someone who I haven't seen play whilst growing up so for that reason I'll say Owen

Great documentary but if we don't get Rafa in quick we will be known as the history boys!!

Sorry folks completely forgot about Sir Roger, I didn't include billy cos he was mainly a winger. I went for Keegan, not because he scored the most but because he came into a team in transition and with his telepathic partnership with Toshack turned us into league and euro champs with exciting and tireless work. But as you all say if it comes down to clinical finishing and sheer prolificness (not a work I know) then Rushie has to take it.

Slimboy

Sorry folks completely forgot about Sir Roger, I didn't include billy cos he was mainly a winger. I went for Keegan, not because he scored the most but because he came into a team in transition and with his telepathic partnership with Toshack turned us into league and euro champs with exciting and tireless work. But as you all say if it comes down to clinical finishing and sheer prolificness (not a work I know) then Rushie has to take it.

Slimboy

Eds, we want your opinions too ;).

Slimboy {Ed001's Note - best I have seen has to be Fowler, if only he had the team around him (and a manager who treated him with respect, yes Ged I mean you! Oh and Thompson you should take a bow for your part in forcing him out of the club too.) that the likes of Dalglish, Rush, Keegan etc did. Fowler is the only one who could do it all, he had a complete range of passing, great vision, deadly in and around the box, could hit a fantastic free kick, could dribble past a player or two to create openings and worked hard for the team.}

In matches that i got to see as a young lad, Fowler was amazing. As far as raw talent goes, Stan Collymore really was an amazing footballer too.

But as you mentioned a doco, then from every bit of old footage i've seen, i'd honestly have to say Keegan and Kenny are a dead heat, just magnificently intelligent footballers, exactly the type of players i like. Rush and fowler were opportunistic, but Keegan and Kenny were both just so smart in their own ways, if they weren't knockin' 'em in, they were alway smart enough to be involved in general play, which i always admire.

Red7.

Obviously my previous comment was not supposed to make Stan Collymore appear as a decent human being, but in terms of ability, and obviously not application, he was very talented and i would've loved to have seen what he could do had he been born with a sense of decency... Just a bit of a person though...

Red7.

 

 

16 May 2012 09:38:25
According to the media the talks have gone badly between the board and KK. Mainly due to the fact FSG arent happy with the amount of money weve spent with the position weve come in. They seem wary of giving a daglish much needed funds as they believe he wont use them effectively. While KK will not take a different role in the club and is not happy with not having full backing from the board. One side will have to give with Daglish more likely to resign.

New manager targets I'd Personally dont think we should include martinez or lambert or rodgers havent got the experience yet to manage our club no obvious choice

 

 

16 May 2012 09:37:49
Seriously can all the people clammering for Rafael Benitez please remember the reality of the situation. Im sick of hearing we should bring him back from people with a 6 month memory span!

He caused utter havoc at Liverpool only akin to what Sourness achieved.

His player recruitment was shocking, on par with Houllier. His youth development was attrocious, even after virtually striking to get the board to agree to give him final authority over the academy. What youth did He actually bring through to 1st team success?

Player motivation due to his persona and tactics was a shambles. No wonder Real and Barca were able to steal our midfield without having to pay top dollar when 2 of the best players in the world were pushed aside for an, at the time woeful Lucas. Being benched would annoy any player, but to be recognised as among the best in tge world in your position and then be benched just to make way for someone who is playing terribly must have been a nightmare.

Yes we won a CL, and what a 2nd half that was, but think why did we have to come back from 3 down. Have a look at the starting line up compared to the finishing 11 and tell me his tactics won it or very nearly lost it. The will of the players got us through that night, not his managerial prowess. In Athens another of his insane substitutions cost us that game leaving a huge gap in the middle of the park waiting for Milan to waltz through.
Can no one remember the almost weekly occurance of us chasing a win only to see Torres subbed for AURELIO with the score at 1-1....

He had his chance. He had another at Milan and couldn't even cope under mourinhos shadow for 6 months. Players don't like him, he's fallen out with every board in Spain, England, Italy he's ever worked under and is frankly a pompous tool stirring up trouble from over our garden fence. He should never, and hopefully will never mange LFC again.

If he's such a big fan, let him buy his season ticket and sit in the stand singing YNWA like the rest of us but that's where his input, views and involvement should stop



FatJanMolby

So is that a 'yes' to Rafa or a 'no' ?

Puzzled

I'm not a believer Benitez should be given the job, we seem to be looking to much to the past KK included. But are you really comparing him to Souness? Give your head a shake sunshine

Couldn't agree more! Those wanting Rafa back are wearing THEIR rose-tainted glasses. Can't see the forest for the trees, as they say...Singred

To fatJanMolby, im not saying that i want benitez back nor kenny to be sacked. I just want to give rafa his respect, the man deserves more than the silly things that you said..1st..you said woeful lucas..who was the best player for us this season till he got injured, rafa saw his raw potential that time itself as masherano was already mulling for a transfer, if rafa didnt play him than..do you think lucas would be this good now?? 2nd you said his youth development was attrocious? dont you know it was him who revamped our youth system..he brought the barca youth set up coaches and he overhauled the entire system and he brought back daglish too..it was him who gave kelly,robinson their debut..it was him who brought jonjo to the club..it was him who brought rahim sterling,suso to the club..i can go on and on..3rd his tactics where shambles?? where were you when we were doing the come backs esp the season when we finished 2nd in the league..tell me apart the game from the league cup final this season...did we ever came back from a goal down to win a match!! NO..so know your facts just before just lamenting some one who was a great servant to the club!

redz for life {Ed001's Note - to be fair, he only played Kelly because he literally had no other choice due to injuries. He only played Robinson to try and shut up his critics, who pointed out that he would rather buy dross like Degen and Voronin and Ngog, rather than give a chance to a kid who just might be a future player for the club. You can't defend Rafa's record on giving kids a chance, it is appalling, he quite simply didn't give them a chance. I know of a number of kids who went elsewhere while he was in charge simply because they didn't see the point in joining us while Rafa was manager.}

Well said that man, bang on!

Some points taken, but Rafa for the last 3 seasons of his reign had to go bargain basement shopping, most of his buys were instant hits, Alonso reina Garcia Torres, he made a few duds but show me a manager who hasn't, his tactics were near enough spot on, my critiscm would only be playing weakend sides against hull and the like and testing draws instead of ins or we would of won the league. I'm sure with the backing of the owners and Dalglish being a go between the future would be looking better. His youth teams are now bearing fruit so I think that s a bit of a non argument.

Amen to that! Spot on

You my friend, don't know what you're talking about:
Agger,Lucas, Skertl, Alonso, L. Garcia, Riera, Johnson, Torres, Mascherano to name just a few...(look at the crap we signed this season!! just look!)
And, Rafa won CL with Biscan, Traore and Kewell in the side! come on man, what planet are you on?
KK I love to bits but I love LFC more...much more...the season we came second the players let Rafa down at Middlesborough (who were relegated that year, reminds you of this year doesn't it, except we've come 8th!!)
I'm sorry you don't think Rafa is good enough but anyone else (short of Mourinho) would even be a bigger disaster.... {Ed001's Note - how can you blame the players for us coming second under Rafa? That is incredibly blinkered. Or possibly idiotic. Not sure which.}

You do not have a clue.

He saw the problems with the youth set-up, gained control of it and made it what it is now.
We are only starting to see the benefits of his legacy now. In the next few years that will be even greater.

On the other note - yes he won the champions league with a mostly inherited team, but those same players did not even get as far as the final under Houllier.

Then there is his so called transfer record.

He bought some amazing players. Yes there were some iffy ones, but that's the risks involved when the majority of your time you are fighting for scraps and having to wheel-a-deal to try and get a better squad team.

I would have Rafa back in a heartbeat.

Messi himself would never have gotten a chance with Rafa as boss.

Do you seriously think Rafa would have dropped Kuyt for an 18-19 year old Messi?

If you think he would have - you're bonkers - just like Rafa was in the end!

Well said ed001.

BJH YNWA

ps - If Borrell and the Academy manage to produce a few gems in the years ahead - please give some credit to the staff who have coached/developed these players each day - don't simply attribute their good work to Rafa, because that's b****cks. {Ed001's Note - to be fair, at first Rafa was trying to prove his point that the Academy needed an overhaul. But, once he had his own men in place, there was no reason to carry on bringing in dross like Voronin and Ngog when there were better youngsters to give a chance to. Come to think of it, he would have been better putting Borrell himself up front than Voronin or Ngog.}

 

 

16 May 2012 09:18:40
Anyone know if steven Gerard is or has been confirmed as the England captain for the upcoming euro's, also will Carroll be selected for the squad, cheers RILES 11 {Ed023's Note - Carroll is in the squad}

 

 

16 May 2012 09:33:43
Hi Eds,

Just wondering if there any update with regards the restructuring at the club, reasons behind it people coming in etc?
{Ed002's Note - No.}

 

 

16 May 2012 09:32:45
Kenny should resign rather then get sacked.

Kenny should stay a while longer. A year would work

cozinoz

Maybe he should. He doesn't deserve this sort of abuse and disrespect from so called 'supporters' who can't see what he's trying to build. Singred

Kenny strgling last 4/5 month and he fail to solve it in this time so what special he will do next year. and owner sure afride to give him money.

If he resigned, I'd imagine he would lose out financially on the payoff of the rest of his contract.

BJH YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 09:30:57
Imagine the players Rafa has up his sleeve with some good backing...

Gazman

Rafa is not the answer he blew his chance by trying to play games with fergie rather then concentrating on the team if kk does leave we need a fresh start with a new manager

And imagine the wages he'd have them on. Then imagine where those players would want to go when we don't get CL.
And finally imagine the finances after those players left...
Very short memory Gazman lad.
The Real KB

Players like robbie keane and aquilani?
No thanks

MIKEY

Then what are you going to do if he doesn't make top4, call for his head too? Or will Rafa get longer?

It takes longer than a season to rebuild, this isn't football manager...

TIZER RED
YNWA

Yeah

Players like Veronin

Josemi-Antonio Nunez-Godwin Anti-Jack Hobbs-Paul Anderson-Mark Gonzalez-Jan Kromkamp-Nabil El Zhar-David Martin-Andrea Dossena
-thats just a small few of the legends he bought so give him youmoney would u
red rrab

Degen?
El zahr?

Short memory!! He won us the European Cup FFS!!! I've got a short memory!!

Players - Reina, Mash, Alonso, Lucas, Torres, Johnson, Skrtel, Arbeloa, Agger.

He would have signed (if not for H&G) Bale, Silva and possibly Villa.

Your arguments are silly..

He took us to two European cup finals and we had our highest Finnish since the premiership began.

My memory is functioning perfectly - cheers

Gazman

Alonso,Mascherano,Agger,Garcia, Skrtel, Lucas,Torres, Reina.

Tried to sign Bale, Silva, Villa

Goodnight

Gazman

We came 2nd in 2002 Gazman. Fail!

Corkpoolred

Ok, at the risk of being hammered for this.......

Dudek won us the european cup.

 

 

16 May 2012 09:29:45
Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish turned down the idea of giving up managerial duties for a new role at Anfield during talks with the club's owners, which sources say did not go well.

Full story: Daily Mirror

Dalglish is waiting to discover whether his second reign at Anfield is over having failed to receive assurances over his future from Fenway Sports Group during face-to-face talks in Boston.

According to The Times, Dalglish's future is now "in limbo" after he "failed to receive any clarification or reassurances over his position" from the Fenway Sports Group duo

IF this is true

What does it mean?

Is KD going to metaphorically limp along and for how long?

It makes no sense?

Sounds very possible, just 1 question though.... how would the Mirror know what was said in the meeting. FSG wont have told them and Kenny wouldn't tell the press the time of day. So maybe the Daily Mirror and all the other papers reporting what went on in the meeting are lying, again.

always a red

Think about that mate, why does it make no sense? BECAUSE IT BULLS**T!

 

 

16 May 2012 09:24:00
Can't wait for Sunday morning when all the so called experts, pundits and people-in-the-know can turn their attention away from Kenny Dalglish and onto either Chelsea or Tottenham for failing to qualify for next year's Champions League. It will give us a little peace and quiet and hopefully some of our 'fairweather' supporters will stay quiet about KK and his position.
Stand up and be proud of the Club and all it's staff.
Don't let KK walk alone.
Finally -Sign your posts - don't be a keyboard coward.
Midsred

Too right mate

Cuchulainn's Hounds

I am on your side Midsred, but unfortunatly we Kenny supporters on here are few and far between. I got grief the other day for saying have patience etc. We are not Man city and do not have unlimited funds in which to blow on players and salaries. Kenny will turn things round. Regards the signings most bang on about DC had a big hand in those not Kenny.
Lee73

No fair weather supporter here but I'm tired of looking back! Keenan didn't work for Newcastle the second time around and KK hasn't worked for us doesn't mean I'm being disrespectful. Should we ask Gerrard Houlier to come back maybe even Roy Evans? If we rebuilding we need to do it through the club bottom up end of. The game has changed massively in the last 10 years nevermind 25. I we keep going on about are history were going to get left behind. Remember it with a passion but let's not use at a a reason to keep trying to go back. Onwar and upward whoever is at the helm but let's have new ideas please!

Mike

Keenen never works without Kel!!

 

 

16 May 2012 09:21:16
personally i would buy:
muniain-18m
sissokho-13m =44m
de jong-13m
out
maxi-5m
aquilani-8m/10m =19m
kuyt-6m
net spend=25 million

Kuyt (1-2 mn)
Maxi (2-3 mn)
Aqua (4-5 mn)

so the net spend will be higher considering the realistic values of the players we sell...also muniain might cost a bit more...

Red PG

6m for Kuyt and 5m for Maxi - you are having a laugh. Plus the owners will not give Kenny (if still around) big bucks to spend.

8-10M for Aquilani???

Jesus. He'll go on a free if anything.

KKM...

Who else thinks these are reasonable

 

 

16 May 2012 09:19:22
Can we end the Rafa talk, it isn't happening, short memory's some of you,
KK has had one full season, 2 cup finals 1 won and 8th in league.

Would 4th or 5th with no finals been a better year, not for me.
PATIENCE

The most important issue for me is
THE STADIUM
For us to go forward we need to increase our revenue on a weekly basis, we are out of pocket each week to mancs and gooners by millions of pounds, be it redevelopment or move, a decision needs to be made. After £35 million spent on consultancy, admittedly not by this regime the club needs to say what's going on!
I believe this is going to be the issue that puts us up there with the elite of Europe or makes us an also ran

PistolPete

Rafa in is first 2 years won the Champions League and the FA Cup and he wasn't given the amount of money Dalglish has spent... Also, the squad wasn't considerably strong when we won the Champions League...Rafa only screwed up when the money for his targets (Alves, Villa, Silva etc) wasn't made available and he had to sign alternates...

Red PG

Red PG

All well and good,but 80% of the football played has been terrible...open your eyes

What's your point pete. I agree we shouldn't go backwards and get rafa back, but in his first season he got us 5th and won the champions league.
Redsparks

U talk of increased revenue n thats exactly what top 4 brings , champions lge is the elite finance tournament in world football, he was given 150mill in 2 windows and a requirment to finish or at least compete for top 4 , He failed miserably , we were nearly 40 points of city and thats a disaster !!!!!the knock on effect is we cant aattract the best players with no champs lge, roy hodgson would have been lynched 4 less
5gold stars

I've been trying for years now mate, it's useless, people will want the new stadium, then they'll turn on the owners when transfer funds go into the building costs. Then the stadium will be built and they'll expect a title later that year, when that doesn't happen they'll turn on whoever the manager is. Then when we do win a title, they'll sell their Chelsea shirts and crawl to the new anfield.

80% of football been what?!
What the hell are you watching!!
FowlerisGod

 

 

16 May 2012 09:10:31
some of the posts on here are mindless.



gee man

Amen to that

G.Baker

 

 

16 May 2012 09:05:10
eds are liverpool players are flew back to their homes or they still coming to mellwood? {Ed002's Note - They will be joining national squads or taking a vacation. I don't know what commitments the younger players have.}

 

 

16 May 2012 08:58:58
Dalglish needs more time and more financial backing.
I think one of the major blows to the season was Lucas getting injured. We need strong cover in all positions and Spearing was not up to this task -
maybe first team was too soon for him. I think Spearing and Flanagan should go on loan. Get in a matured cover for Lucas and a right winger and a striker/goal monster. I'd keep Johnson and Kelly
for the moment. We are not that for off a good
team and the last thing we need now is knee jerk reactions.

 

 

16 May 2012 08:50:29
I think kenny will go very soon and rafa will come back as manager
Rafa will then get Xavi Valero as GK coach to help with renia

i would like to see come in:

Luuk De Jong or Bas Dost
Clint Dempsey
Hangeland as skrtel will leave :(or just give coates more of a turn and bring up wilson or wisdom
and either elia or Krasic
+give Pachaeo and sterling more action

outs:
Kuyt maxi aurelio

cheer ynwa

No. Just no.

Stone YNWA.

Some of the things wrong with this post

Rafa will never return - why?
Henry has apportioned blame to RAFA for ther squad Kenny inheirited and its many problems examples include poor players on over generous contracts.

Rafa always wants full control Henry will not cede ultimate power to RAFA

So that's Rafa Gone.

Pacheco will not be coming back so forget him. Why Some cite attitude probelms as the reason why others say he's simply not good enough. Whatever the reason he's not anfield bound this summer.

^^ sensible post, this... Singred

We already have valero, he is just on gardening leave.

Your transfer list is about right too, if Rafa came back he probably would buy Krasic and Elia, and we'd be 18th this time next year, and broke.

 

 

16 May 2012 08:23:49
Eds
I love the posts from people who are "in the know" or have a "very good source" on issues like Kenny's future as clearly they don't have a clue and are not in the know. how about we all "calm down" and wait for a press conference to see what if anything happens

They are entertaining though. Keep up the good work Eds

RedDan

 

 

16 May 2012 08:22:03
KK has stepped down from Liverpool hot seat, NOT SACKED. Press conference set up for end of the week.
I've heard lots of rumors for the managers position but who do have a real chance of getting??
A couple of seasons ago i'm sure gerrard and carra said they'd love mourinho at the club.
YNWA

Give it up will ya!

Gerragher also said the same about Alan Curbishley

 

 

16 May 2012 08:10:42
Liverpool should make a move for andre boais or rafa benitez, both have a great eye for talent and both are great tacticians. Some people will cite what happened at chelsea and i think it was the same situation as benitez at inter they were mostly mourinhios players, i dont think he had a fair playing field and i believe andre is a world class manager, exactly what we need. RedTurk

It was AVB''s tatics that got him the Chelsea bullett.

Avb a good tactician? ha don't make
Me laugh! He continued with a high line at Chelsea when even the the thickest pundits and fans knew it was detrimental to the team!

 

 

16 May 2012 08:05:56
I believe Kenny got some sort of fall out with the owners but it is not that serious/significant.

I still hang on to my word Kenny will remain as manager for next season. But FSG would be very much ruthless from now on towards Kenny, bad such results won't be tolerated any more. He might get the immediate sack if the situation arises. Kenny now has more or less to get the trust of owners as well as the fans back by making the team perform better & deliver on the pitch.

If Kenny is to get replaced by any means some one with experience at top level [International coaching, Europes top leagues, UCL experience like wise] would be preferred ahead of a young upcoming manager.

Funds are available. CEO, DOF positions would be appointed very soon. [at least before the Euro's]

Armando

 

 

16 May 2012 07:54:20
If you were Suarez would you stay at a KD LFC?

Yes, of course

Without a doubt

Kenny Dalglish, Mark Renton, Tony Jaa, Peter Chow, Wong Chun Han, Rafael Nadal, whoever the manager is, ill stay. not sure about Suarez.

Kaizer

I reckon he'd rather Kenny as coach , Kenny really supported him

 

 

16 May 2012 07:30:40
Hi ed's. does Kenny look at any of the rumours sites or does he have someone look at them to see what level of support he has with the fans like other managers are supposed to have done? Or does he distance himself from all that and just go by the reaction he gets on match days? I ask because there's a lot of negative stuff being said about his management and I wonder if it would effect any decision he might take about stepping down. {Ed002's Note - Clubs often have someone poll media sources and "fan sites" to look at opinion. FSG use a company to do this and they regularly compile and submit reports for the board.}

Jaysus can you imagine if Kenny looked at this site?

He would be astounded by the lambasting he gets from the "FANS"

I think he would be shocked if he read some of the comments on here... he talks about "us", the fans being educated, knowledgeable, respectful, patient and understanding what the club are trying to do in his interviews which is largely not the case.... unfortunately this existed before the Premier League....

Richards

Sorry ed if you misunderstood me but I mean from kennys side. Would it influence any decision he might make if he thought his management was not to the liking of a lot of fans or would he just go by the reaction he gets at the matches or would it have no influence at all? {Ed002's Note - I don't know if he would do that or not. He would likely be wise enough to stay well clear.}

 

 

16 May 2012 07:30:27
Andy Carroll and Charlie Adam seen at Westlife concert in Liverpool last night confirmed by a work colleague.......for this reason alone we have to sell them......-

I cannot believe after the Suarez saga, these two players would drag the club further into controversy. FFS! the last album was terrible...

How embarrassing surely this should go down as bringing the club into diss repute and result in public stoning!

Gally

And I had Andy Carroll down as a Lamb of God man

 

 

16 May 2012 07:25:52
Hi Eds?
Great site and great work on here.
I want K.K to stay,but if FSG take a different decision,i'll respect for their work,
is there any chance of Roberto MARTINEZ becoming our next manager?
-Young manager,(38 years) who's wants to prove himself on a higher level.
-Great tactics.(good passing football,good substitutions,etc.....).
-Able to use a small budget wisely.
-More a motivator than a coach.(surely a good skill for a good modern football manager).

Cheers,
Y.N.W.A

 

 

16 May 2012 06:36:02
I think the true lfc fans should have a read of what didi hamann has said in the Daily express about kenny, and it is absolutely true what he is saying.RedTurk

Define true fan

G.Baker

What did he say have we don't have the express here?

Well tell us what he had to say then, RedTurk

Steve

Ok g.baker, a true fan 1 who supports lfc not 1 man i.e. kenny dalglish. Who does not blindly follow and stand by as our club dips further away from being at the top, continously supporting a man quite clealy out of his depth at liverpool and instead criticise when it is needed and does not try to find every excuse under the sun to support 1 man instead of supporting the club. We can talk about woodworks, luck and injuries all day long but the fact is we have been abysmal in the league and a wise man once said ' the league is our bread and butter' . So anyone wana agree or disagree, go ahead. RedTurk

The express is not syndicated in outer Mongolia {Ed001's Note - is irony intended by Turk talking about being a 'true fan'? After all he has never shown ANY support whatsoever for ANY aspect of Liverpool FC.}

Express.co.uk/football/view/320452/? This is the link have a read, i hope fsg see sen e and bring back benitez. RedTurk

Alright lad, was a simple question. Your horse is a bit high today

G.Baker

Red turk your talking garbage. A true fan is someone who doesnt support the manager? absolute rubbish, a fan is someone who follows there team through good times and bad, i support the king so am i not a true fan??!!!!

FowlerisGod

 

 

16 May 2012 06:34:23
Hi ed this is arshad from india do u think kenny will be given one more season,n if he leave do ur transfer target will chance,likes of gaston ramirez,affeley, elm would be decent addition to squad hoping 4 ur ans as this my first post {Ed002's Note - We don't know what is going to happen with Dalglish but you can assume for now that the targets remain the same.}

 

 

16 May 2012 06:29:23
Now I am not convinced if KK is the right man or not but whether you want him in or out, It really doesnt matter. Unless we could get a manager like Jose, KK at the very least deserves one more season to turn it around. If FSG settle for another manager we will be in this exact if not worse position next year screaming for his head. Now I agree we didnt have a good season but whether you want KK or not some of the football we played was great and I truly believe we were let down by our finishing. Give him one more season and lets see where we are at, any other manager is going to come in with a two, three year plan. LFC needs some stability at this point not mobs calling for peoples heads. YNWA....remember?

Tony

Tony, why does he deserve one more year? He has guided us from 7th last season to 8th this season, and has presided over our clubs worst season in a gazillion years!

steve

Steve, I here where you are coming from, we did have a bad and frustrating season but we did also play some good football. I question some of the purchases made and I believe our finishing is what let us down. The only reason I'm advocating for Kenny to stay on for one more season is purely because of stability. We need to give him at least that and then we will see where we are truly at. I like you am not happy with the season gone but to get another manager now is just going to put us back

Tony

We were only 7th last season because of the boost of Kenny returning. If we had stuck with Hodgson we would have placed far lower.

BFTT

 

 

16 May 2012 06:09:11
If Kenny had been sacked or quit, I think we would have heard by now !

I think that FSG are more unhappy about Kenny's interaction with the media than they are with the on field performance. Remember yanks love a big day out in the cup, whether they win or lose (just look at the superbowl), in america the achievement is getting to the final. Im sure that is why Cotton has been sacked, Im certain that Kenny will be managed through interviews more next season and at times taken away from the spotlight when he is particularly spiky, especially with the documentary. A new face will be brought in to prevent a repeat of the Suarez debacle.

To all fans posting about world superstars, we wont be signing any, hopefully we can get good players who will fit in and make the team stronger and push for the champions league places, which I believe is achievable.


Billericay Red

 

 

16 May 2012 05:42:46
i would want Daglish out. The final nail in the coffin for me was the FA Cup final, we had weeks to prepare for it, players were rested and everyone knew it was the game to salvage our season. But STILL the players were not up for it, tactical mistakes ( Caroll not starting) and poor first half.
I mean a FA cup win would have convinced me. If Daglish is not able to handle big games at crunch time, still continues to make tactical mistakes after a full season, i don't think he is the right man.


Pankaj

Spot on.
Indian Buzzer

How do you know that carroll wouldnt have been as poor as everyone else if he started? There is no way to tell what would have happened if he started so its a moot point really!

steve

Stick to cricket, mate.

Every year changing players and coaches can get u success in the IPL, not in football. Changing a manager implies changing the tactics, methods of training and approach in the game, which is why not many are successful in their first year.

U will cite Guardiola but he had a great team from Rijkaard and he gave them the finishing touches. Majorly all players were from the same academy playing together.

Mourinho at Inter got a triple seria A champion team from Mancini. Mourinho did do that at Chelsea but then he aint 'The Special One' for no reason.

Kenny is the man to go forward. Also, who do you think is available to replace him.

It is easy to kick someone out but almost impossible to replace them. Remember Xabi Alonso and Mascherano? still waiting to be replaced

mgz

We were outclassed by Chelsea's mata and Ramirez. We would all want Bellamy to start. And he did.
AnfieldUSA

 

 

16 May 2012 05:40:54
if kenny leaves, and i stress IF, i would like to see him replaced with AVB. he is a very good young coach, and i believe that the only reason that he didn't succeed at chelsea was because he had a plan to implicate over a few years, and that didn't suit the Chelsea club. I think he would be an excellent manager!
AustralianRed

Well hes not an excellent manager - he was sacked by chelsea, DOH

Not AVB the FA and EPL winner? Oh yeah that's right, he got sacked because of poor league results, shocking position, loss of dressing room and lost in the EPL world of pressure.
This wouldnt possibly be this AVB would it?
No one should read your texts ever again :)

So, Ausralianred, you would like to replace KK after a short period in charge and replace him with a coach who needs a few years to implement his plan? Are you the only one who doesn't see the irony in this?

cozinoz

Why should AVB get a few years and kenny get one??

I think AVB will one day become a very good manager but he proved at Chelsea, he isn't ready for the Premier league. Maybe have a go in Spain before returning to the EPL.

TIZER RED
YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 04:37:11
I know from a very good source that the amount of 'very reliable' sources currently at LFC is at an all time high.

This source predicts that yet more 'sources' will appear in the next few days and that soon everyone on the planet will have a source inside the Anfield boardroom and that soon board meetings will be held in Stanley park with 100 000 'sources' in attendance.

My source says also that he is the only real source.

There can only ever be two real sources, like star wars

Is his name 'Heinz'
StevieH

I have a reliable sauce in the shape of a bottle of Reggae Reggae. I find it goes with most things, not only as a table sauce but also as a fantastic marinade on chicken. It has overtaken the trusty ref and brown sauces in my opinion.

Another great sauce is the Lea & Perrins Worcestershire and Tomato table sauce. Although it's quite expensive and doesn't seem to last that long.

I hope this clears a few things up.

Tristan

The most senior person left at Melwood or Anfield at the moment is the cleaners I got the head cleaner at 20-1 to become the next LFC manager - result!

NS

HP or Daddies? Daddies for me everytime

Gazman

 

 

16 May 2012 03:41:05
Lets face the truth
our realistic signings will be
1.Diame
2.De jong
3.David Villa
4.Rafael Benitez
5.Steven Fletcher
6.Hoilett
7.N'zonzi(what about him? very good player and got relegated with Blackburn and could get for a reasonable value)
And what are the chances of getting them?

Indian Red(aneeshsubrahmanya@gmail.com)

David villa? i thought you were being realistic

 

 

16 May 2012 03:00:06
Would people still get rid of Kenny even without a decent enough replacement.

Hypothetically if someone said keep Kenny for one season and then replace him with Guardiola would they be happy?

Cheers

Macca

__________________________________________

I will be very happy but sadly I don't think we'll get Guardiola though. Other big clubs (Chelsea, Manu etc) will snap him up first.

Unless a better replacement is found, available and interested, there is simply no point changing for the sake of it. That does not include Rafa for me however I respect that many feel otherwise. I believe things will improve with some stability however if we are going to change then it needs to be a quality long term solution and for the manager to be shown greater patience than we have shown one of our greatest on and off the field. Sadly I fear that if we cant show patience with Kenny then who can we.

AK

There is a man out there who has won the European cup, gave Liverpool there highest ever premier league finish and he lives just round the corner. Oh and I forgot - he loves Liverpool too.

It's hard to spot a priest in a mountain of salt?

Gazman

Kenny was a caretaker - let's find a more competent caretaker until we can temp a Coach -

He said hypothetically, do you know what that means? >.>

But although his contract stated to wind the league.. He failed!
He wasn't good enough

We should only look to change manager if there is a better replacement, if that means waiting a year then so be it.... we should only look at managers who can compete with the very best. Personal shout would be Ancellotti, proven, world class, but wages might be an issue....

Richards

Rafa wasn't good enough to win the league eh? Right now I'd settle for 4th!!!

Why in gods name did we ever let him go?

If it wasn't for hicks and Gillette we would have had a Superb squad now.

Do people realise that Rafa tried to sign Bale when he was on the bench at spurs during his tenure? He tried to sign Silva and Villa too. Although Alonso, Torres, Mash, Pepe, Lucas weren't bad we're they? Did Rafa sign Skrtl too?

Bring him back, I'd love to see what gems we would get in.

Gazman

Gems like Philip Degan

 

 

16 May 2012 02:48:18
Nobody really knows the situation with Kenny. FSG themselves may not know yet, look at it this way if they we're certain Kenny would be the man to take us forward next season they would of made an announcement today and put it all to bed.

Personally i'm torn as i like the man and i appreciate what he's done for us as a player and manager, but at the same time we wouldn't be having these discussions if it was anyone else other than Kenny would we ?

If he goes 'IF' then i would like Rafa to return for my own personal reasons, that is if there aren't any better options. If Kenny is our manager still come next season he should have everyone's support as he's very much a part of the club and it's history, i was born the season he retired so i didn't see him play live but i still understand that more than some on here slating the man.

I have however been told by someone i know (His dad is actually a scout at LFC and no i'm really not lying) that he won't be sacked unless he resigns himself and/or wants to change role within the club.

If he step's down the least he deserves is our respect and gratitude, most of the bashers were calling for him as manager only a year and a half ago.

Sorry for the long post guys.

JP

Has Rafa really got the draw to sign players now, I'd say his tenure at Inter and not having worked since has damaged his reputation, as well has having upset the apple cart at valencia and Liverpool, seems clubs are reluctant to take him on now

Joehoover

I believe he would still have that draw personally. He made some mistakes in his time here but lets be honest every other manager in world football has made mistakes as nobody is perfect.

You need to look at the positives of his reign, most of his flop signings didn't command a fee (Although they were probably on higher wages / signing on fee's because of this).

His time at Inter didn't go well of course but neither did AVB at Chelsea for example, i'm certain he'll be a success at whatever position he takes up next. While Rafa knows the club, city and supporters well.

We'll see what happens anyway, sooner the better though haha.

JP

 

 

16 May 2012 02:09:02
It's almost as if it's getting to a stage where people actually WANT what's worst for the club, so they have something at which to direct their anger and frustration.
It's really getting ridiculous just how many negative comments are made, which are being aimed directly at this great club. The season's over now, let's start building a little support for next season, because to insult a representative of this club, is to insult this great club.

 

 

16 May 2012 01:40:27
if reina leave we should go for Fernando Muslera.

Ter Stegen from monchengladbach

 

 

16 May 2012 01:40:26
Kenny Dalglish will be sacked in the forthcoming days. He has spent way over £100m and that can be enough for any team to challenge for the title never mind just to get top 4. His tactics are all wrong and he hasn't got a clue when to bring subs on, to all the fans saying that we won a cup, we was really lucky to win the cup and only just scraped it to victory. In my opinion he does not deserve a 2nd season, he maybe a legend but in the modern day came he hasn't got a clue what to do, if this club is to progress we need to get dalglish out and all the players who show no passion towards the football club, players should be proud to wear the liverbird on their chest and give 10000% in training and in every game..... Rant over.... Dalglish OUT.

Badge

Agree about subs, never knew something like that could upset me soo much. and yeah we need to buy players who have the talent but also feels like they have something to prove; like Elia, De Jong who want to get into the Holland first team.

If kenny stays we have to respect the owners decision , but kenny needs to be ruthless and bin several players he bought who let him down , he has to remember as he said the club are the important thing. if he stays i will support him and use excuses for the very poor season , but we can not continue with the likes of spearing , downing, adam, shelvey, henderson etc as they are part of the problem. who ever is manager will always have my support , i have been there since shanks first came to us and i have enjoyed every minute , the days when we came third in the second division , second division championsfirst division champions, fa cup winners, european cups etc ,so being a red has been great for me and it will continue in the future we need to hold our nerve and stick together , we can be critical due to frustration but who ever is manager needs us with him. best wishes , ynwa , red mick tag.

How can the tactics be wrong if we've played reasonably good football and created 488 chances on goal in 38 games, surely its bad finishing, lets quit this Kenny out s**t please, who are we, Chelski? No, we give our Mgr and Players support whoever they are..Carroll finally looks like the player we actually bought in the last month or so, replace Dirk and Maxi with a couple of young strikers to bridge the gap between say Morgan and the first team, come on Redmen support this Great club... IDIOT!

He spent 45mill and replaced the other members to build the foundation of a squad which has depth. 45million does not create a title challenging or top 4 challenging team. Look at city or chelsea.

Badge it's people like yourself who gets managers to resign and others not wanting the job.
Stupidity can wreck life's and destroy foundations.
Your immaturity and lack of respect amazes me and quite frankly I feel it maybe best if you yourself moved on and supported another team.
You don't support. Probably you don't go to the games. Certainly you don't put any money or heart into the club and you slag off your team and manager.
you are not goodenough to support this club and you should go somewhere else

To the no named person who just gave badge a serve, maybe you should practice a little of what you preach and respect that Badge may have a different opinion to yourself. a different opinion doesnt make him any less of a supporter than you no name warrior.

Steve

People use the net spend with Rafa so they need to with Dagleish, so it was not £100 million. And City have spent £480 million building their squad over the last few years, only 4 years down the line has it really paid off. Not mentioing the wages they are paying also.

Thanks Steve YNWA, and to the others who slated my opinion, it's my opinion of what I think should happen.

Badge

 

 

16 May 2012 01:32:24
Y do we miss out on young brazilians ? Think we need to put a bid in for Lucas moura da silva Sao palo young and fast and fantastic befor he goes inter

If we spent 20m on downing then what is 20m for Lucas

Because Lucas would cost 30-40 mill, plus the likes of city, chelsea, real, barca would all be after him offering higher wages!!! Stupid, ridiculous post.
KiwiRed {Ed002's Note - They have already turned down an offer of £35M (might be euro - I can't recall right now.}

Lucas will cost far more than 20m.

Martin

Players from Brazil dont usually do well in the prem

Right, well there you go. Thankyou ed002 for proving my point.
KiwiRed

 

 

16 May 2012 01:16:57
My girlfriends sisters boyfriends mum who knows a friend who's brothers wifes dad has a mistress that sleeps with some guy that has a connection with a woman who knows a guy thats girlfriends brothers grandfather is connected to the club... He thinks that KK is staying. How about that for reliable. TBagger

Actually sounds about right...

Your girlfriends sisters boyfriends mum who knows a friend who's brothers wifes dad has a mistress that sleeps with some guy that has a connection with a woman who knows a guy thats girlfriends brothers grandfather is connected to the club..

Is winding you up mate.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Lets offer 100M roubles for him

 

 

16 May 2012 01:15:18
I know most of you fans are itchy for Kenny to get the sack and thats diabolical really when you got to look at the facts of who we are and who he is. Kenny is a Legend who actually loves our club....and before you go on about this seasons results just give me a chance to have my say....
As I said he loves our club and will only want the best for our club.. I am sure that if he feels he cant take the club forward he will stand up and say "Ive got to go for the best of the club". He will not want to hurt the love he has the club and the love the fans have for him.
We are Liverpool.....not fans of the club but we are the club. The one unique thing I can say about us is that we are one big family and we dont turn on family. Roy was not family and was not the right man thats why it was ok to try and get him out. Kenny is different.
Ok lets talk about the reality if he is the man for the job..... Yes results prove this season we were awful...but were we? Had all the luck that had deserted us this season been there we would have finished higher. Yes someone of you will say ifs...buts.... etc....doesnt win you anything but the fact is we have played better football in games than we have ever before and the reason why we havent is too things tactically and the players. Tactically because we are set up to defend and only at times have one player in the box when trying to score (which hampers our chance to score obviously) and players as tey are not good enough. Now some of you will say KK picked the players yes thats true but can you honestly say that the players chosen from the season before were going to play as bad as they did? No. Chalie Adams free kicks were not there to be seen. Downing was awful Hendo was played out of position nearly all year. Enrique started of well when we were playing well and then died away (goes to show we need another left back to cover).
I think we bought English players this year to get the back bone of UK players and now we are going to stage 2 and that is talent from across Europe. I think the only stumbling block was that we thought we would be in the champs league for next season. This may happen our transfers for next year but will hopefully get us players that want to play for us not the champs league.
We have played well under Dalglish at times and will continue to do so but we need to buy the quality players that will make the difference between hitting the post and scoring. Ie Aguerro in the 94th minute for Man city to win the league. That was quality and I dont think Downing would have done that..his shot would have gone over the top of the cross bar. And when we do buy quality I personally see us starting to win. Tactically I am not convinced KK is the man... I think he is swayed by Clarkes defencive tactics and our defence is not capable at moment.
After KK took over from Roy you all loved KK as he took us out of the mire. It was not until we got DC that we went down hill. Give KK one more season and then see. If I was Henry I would ask him "who would you buy now to challenge for top spot or top 4 position" and then make his decision. If KK said players like Matt Phillips Hoilett and co I would be very worried.....but the only problem with that is that maybe because of the position we are thats the only type of player we can attract.
YNWA - thats includes KK... Are we Man City? or Chelsea fans that are fickle and have no history and want every one out that has a bad season?? No we are Liverpool (the best fans in the world) who love our club who love our family and will help our loved ones in need. KK is our family and he is down now and so are our players...time to pick them up time to give them the support.
Bring on the next transfer window bring on the next season.... bring on the KK ...The Legend
Speedy

Well said mate.
Food for thought.

On one hand you are not convinced that Kenny is the man and that he is swayed by Clarke's tactics but give him the support. If he can't bring out the best of those players he bought, he is definitely not the man to lead us. I for one never voted for him to lead us He left us 20 years ago citing stress but went on to join Blackburn. It is still a mistake to let Rafa go during the troublesome period under the previous owners. {Ed016's Note - Well the owners were pretty much ousted by Rafa, we owe a lot more to the man than he is given credit for. He is tactically genious but his man management leaves something to be desired. I wish for the pairing of Dalglish and Rafa. Rafa for tactics, Kenny for man management)

Unfair on KK over the stress issue.He was under an enormous amount of pressure and probably regretted his decision shortly after he made it by which time we had a "manager" in Souness so KK could not come back. Remember that Shankly resigned and then kept hanging around until the club asked him not to as it was distracting for the players. I guess he regretted his decision as well. If it was Shankly would you argue the same...I doubt it. Give KK a chance to build. Brendan Rodgers was spot on with his comments that football managers have to "build the plane while they are flying it". He recognises that KK is rebuilding and it will take time. Why can you not?

Iggypop

That would be brilliant wouldnt it? Rafa and KK with the FSG owners we would be unstoppable!

 

 

16 May 2012 01:00:08
First time poster so please be gentle! I do not live anywhere near Liverpool nor do I have any ties with the club, I just simply fell in love with their history. The club means everything to me and I must stress the CLUB, Kenny is a legend yes but we need a new direction. I also feel the little we have to spend the better, maybe we would spend it little more wisley. I have followed this site for a while now without comment but I would really like to know what most of the Eds would honestly like to happen regarding the manager's situation. Hooked by the site thank you. {Ed001's Note - personally I would give Dalglish one more season, this one hasn't gone well, but it takes a long time to turn round a football club. It can't be done in one full season, not from the depths we were in. Yes there were many mistakes made, but he deserves the chance to prove he has learnt from them, in my opinion.}

Agree with the original poster

 

 

16 May 2012 00:49:58
Eds, I believe that the best possible striker option for us this window is Lewendowski from Dortmund. After watching a few matches I rate him easily about De Jong and feel he would be a better partner for Suarez. Between the previously mentioned targets (De Jong, Lewendowski, Giroud, Soldado, etc) who do you feel best fits the current style of LFC? And who would bring out the best in Suarez and/or Carroll?

Thanks and love the site. {Ed001's Note - personally I think putting Bellamy up there is the best option. But I would be happy to add any one of De Jong, Soldado or Lewandowski. Though the player I would most like from the Bundesliga would be Shinji Kagawa.}

I think somebody to help out Carroll and Suarez, Kagawa would be AMAZING, but he'd have a fight on our hands, luckily the fight is with a whiskey addled senior, so we should win out there.

Bellamy has been crap since the carling cup. we he came on he was rubbish after that he was poor. {Ed001's Note - he has been carrying an injury. But, if he was bad for the last month or so of the season, after being fantastic throughout the other 8 months or so, then you must be right. Do you realise just how stupid that comment is???}

Bellamy has been inspiring when he has been fit enough to play - one of the best players we have ever had - a true grafter - a few more Bellamy's and we might have had better results - leave him alone -

Ed, why wud u want bellamy in ur lineup? He is 33, with dogged knees. Very good player but at his age, he should not be anything more than a squad player. We need a young striker like de jong who can play 40+ games in a year.
Indian Buzzer {Ed001's Note - if he is fit to start, he is good enough to play, he was our best player most of last season. He earns next to nothing, gives everything for the club. I fail to see the issue.}

But are we not supposed to be giving as much game time as possible to youngsters? Bellamy wud only get in the way of carrol n de jong if we sign him.
Indian Buzzer {Ed001's Note - we don't have any youngsters ready to start. Bellers is not fit enough to play 90 mins a game. So we can bring on a youngster when he tires. What's the problem with that?}

 

 

16 May 2012 00:40:07
People kept sayinf that we are outspent, are you sure?? We just waste money people like downing, when we can use that amount of money for someone better.
So whose fault is it now? Tottenham despite not spending much much still got 4th place. Its about the quality of player with the money, and not about how expensive a player is. But im sure our signings will
back the next season.

Transfer fees are not the issue, it's wage restrictions, and i agree that the wages people like Yaya and Aguero are on are just disgusting.

No its not if the clubs make a hell of a lot of money by having you in their team and they do not pay you according to your value in the team(in terms of ability/marketing.etc) then they would be exploiting the footballers. so it all works out. so don't think because they make X amount a week or a year they are not entitled to that because they are.

Summary
I agree it's a hell of a lot but at the end of the day it's justified.

Haych {Ed001's Note - how can you justify paying anyone 250k a week? No player is worth it.}

ITs justified when you win the EPL

No its not, it's completely unjustified, something which takes many of us 10 years to earn is earned in a week. I'd rather not win a Premier League and see some players donate half their wages to charity

 

 

16 May 2012 00:23:24
my England euro 23 man squad would be. NOT INCLUDING INJURIES.

GK
Joe Hart
Ben Foster
Robert Green

DEF
Kyle Walker
Glen Johnson
Micah Richards
Gary Cahill
Ashley Cole
Leighton Baines
2 out of JT/Ferdinand Lescott/Ledley King.

MID
Ashley Young
Oxlade Chamberlain
Steven Gerrard (C)
Scott Parker
Frank Lampard
Wilshere(Barry)
Adam Johnson
Aaron Lennon

ST
Rooney
Sturridge
Carroll
Defoe/Bent/Wellbeck- i'll go for Defoe, he can always get a goal from the bench

Hart
Walker--Richards--Cahill--Cole
-Young--Gerrard--Parker---Johnson-
Carroll--Sturridge(Rooney)

---------Gerrard--Parker--Wilshere--------
--Young/Sturridge-Carroll-Rooney-----


F5

They'll take Downing for sure.

I hate the scumbag too, but Why in the world would Rooney be on the bench??

..................... Hart
. Richards . Cahill . Lescott . Baines

... Gerrard ... Parker ... Wilshere

..... Young ............... Sturridge
.................. Rooney

Who cares who Engerland take

Roy will make an absolute shambles of it anyway

 

 

16 May 2012 00:15:55
i fully expect kenny to be LFC manager. FSG have a bit more class then making him fly to Boston to fire him. also in regards to transfers money isnt an issue, they will pay whatever it takes to bring in world class players it only depends on the willingness of them to join us. expect some huge moves this summer.
SLIM.

It's a show of respect to talk to the man face to face if he was to be told he is being sacked. Think of it like a break up would you rather be told over the phone or face to face with an explanation. We'll see what happens anyway.

JP

 

 

16 May 2012 00:02:10
Hides and all is it true sorrel wants out to go and play champs league? Thanks
Hibsylfc {Ed001's Note - erm, I am confused, predictive text by any chance?}

Skrtel?

Jatt YNWA

Think he means Skirtal ed. {Ed001's Note - ah right, well yes, every player wants to play in the top comp, but he has yet to request a transfer to go play in it, if that is what he means.}

Yes champs league is a big thing, but i remember a few years back when FC Thun of Switzerland played in europe, now besides the town having beautiful scenery, i would still rather play at a club like Liverpool with no CL for another year and help them earn it. Rather than play at a smaller club.

Sorry for the misprint my pad is going nuts, I meant what the other fan said . My spell checker overrides what I type,sorry.
Is he leaving?
Hibsylfc {Ed001's Note - no deal has been done, he hasn't requested a transfer as far as I know, but there are clubs showing interest. He is not up for sale though, so it would take a big bid for us to part with him.}

Which clubs ed?
KiwiRed {Ed001's Note - Malaga and Palermo I believe.}

 

 

15 May 2012 23:54:51
Macca

If Guardiola was to come in after his sabatical (maybe with the same background staff as in Barca ) I'd streak down High street only wearing my LFC Scarf.

I love Kenny and believe we should keep him. He is putting together the right things. But the long term future would be in good hands with Guardiola.

Please don't. That's just nasty mate. Just be happy for Kenny... or Pep.

Cuchulainn's Hounds

Like Barcas long term future? i still can't get my head around the fact that he may leave Barca, terrible decision IMO.

 

 

15 May 2012 23:43:06
Guys we are liverpool fc we would not summon our king half way around the world to sack him it's simply insane that some of you believe this could be the case imagine the plane journey home, think about these things guys! If he is to be sacked then he will not be told the news just before a 9 hour plane home. It will be at the inconvenience of the owners if he were to be sacked never has a manager gone to another country to be sacked before it's ridiculous. And were supposed to have the most knowledgeable fans around?

HE'S NOT BEING SACKED! it's amazing what peoples overly negative and spiteful minds will conjure up isn't it?
To add to the original posters comments. What manager in the world would agree to work with owners that would do that to a legend of the club?

Red7.

You never know the Americans. {Ed016's Note - I think it would be wise to give him another season. But he would have to get champions league if not mount a serious challenge)

I don't know wether he will be sacked or not I'm not ITK but it's common sense that he Wont Be sacked whilst he's in America

 

 

15 May 2012 23:42:05
No source just putting two and two together might be getting five who knows...
In January there were strong rumours and an ex-red confirming that Liverpool were close to completing a deal for a South American forward plying his trade in the Eredivise and everyone took this to be David Teixeira...just thinking back it could have been Ajax's Nicolas Lodeiro but for a Bosman free transfer this summer? Just turned 23 so would fit FSGs young and re-saleable criteria, friendly with Suarez and versatile enough to play all across the forward line and obviously no transfer fee...
Just a thought...like to see it myself hasn't really reached the heights expected of him but still time...
Notdave

 

 

 
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