Liverpool Banter Archive October 16 2015

 

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16 Oct 2015 22:40:16
Looking like Sturridge is out of the game tomorrow.

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16 Oct 2015 22:53:24
thats not news, he is always injured i wonder if anyone who does the stats can come up with some on how many games he has missed, then add his goals to games to the games he has missed through injury then we can see how many goals we are down with just him being injured all the time, he is a top striker and would love him to be fit for a whole season he would win the golden boot instead of the golden stretcher :)

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16 Oct 2015 23:28:43
That lad's never going to right injury wise, I think. Big chance for either Origi or Sinclair here, though.

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17 Oct 2015 00:50:28
104 PL games since he joined, he's played in 58.

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16 Oct 2015 23:29:46
Slipped on a pool of vomit and did his hamstring.

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17 Oct 2015 07:32:24
This is not true, he is fit and will play. Why do you publish rumurs like that that have no basis?

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{Ed001's Note - and you are who exactly? Waro has proven correct with his info in the past, whereas you have not, so I will publish his rumours over your arrogant baseless pronouncements every single time.}

17 Oct 2015 10:23:15
My post about the vomit wasn't true 😊.

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16 Oct 2015 22:12:22
Everyone looking forward to the game tomorrow? Got a big walk here in fueterventura to the nearest bar. Worth it for klopps first game. Hopefully a win, but won't be mad if not. It'll take time and patience guys. At least it's nice be excited for a game once!

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16 Oct 2015 22:57:15
Hi Benny, what is fueterventura like i was looking in the thomas cook window today and it had a decent price for where you are, as I've never been there i was wondering what it is like, have you got your spot picked out in the bar lol. i said the same as you the other day about being excited about a game we are playing in its been too long without that feeling to tell you the truth, have a good holiday mate.

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16 Oct 2015 23:17:26
I agree benny; I wouldn't say I was losing interest as that sounds like I give up after a few bad results - it was more nothing made sense - tactics, formations, players playing out of position, transfers yet everyone was outstanding - it could have been easy to fall out of love with it! So I'm excieted for tomorrow but also realistic for the future (we may not get the result or the performance tomorrow but it will come).

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16 Oct 2015 21:48:08
So with all these injuries, new manager etc do the Eds or anyone have any info on tactics and lineup for tomorrow?

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16 Oct 2015 22:09:59
Yeh bang a brace in there goal.

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17 Oct 2015 00:01:48
Mig, Clyne, Skrtle, Sakho, Moreno, can, Milner, Lucas, coutinhio, Lallana and Origi.

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16 Oct 2015 20:47:08
Why you not putting my posts up? Is it because your all a bunch of soft lads that's can't ****ing handle anything said they don't agree with. Mclearly all ****ing bullied at school, ****ing muppets!

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{Ed001's Note - are you a bit precious by any chance? Oh well, shown what kind of moron you are making up lies about what we say and now posting up abuse because you think you are important. No one gives a toss what you have to say, now run along and pick up all the toys you just threw out of your pram.}

16 Oct 2015 21:06:50
Kettle-pot-black. Clearly vacuous. People today just have no consideration for others. This is their job and should be respected on their site, not slated.

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16 Oct 2015 21:09:25
Oh gosh!

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16 Oct 2015 21:40:23
Hahaha.

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16 Oct 2015 21:45:16
Here, let me help you get those toys back in your pram OG. There you go, all better now. Happens to most of us at sometime OG, it isn't personal man.

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16 Oct 2015 22:04:07
Toys? More like empty beer bottles need to be cleaned up.

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16 Oct 2015 22:32:41
First of all please submit something worth posting. Also remember your submitted text could go on Rumours, Banter, Other, Teams, Dodgy pages on this site or go on the liverpool banter site, or be deleted.

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16 Oct 2015 23:01:21
what a whopper, but it made me smile because he thinks he is getting blanked, did he actually say anything useful in his post about the team or the game tomorrow or the new manager, must be a plastic supporter, or have a plastic brain, i bet when he was young he took his ball in and stopped his mates playing with it, oh well maybe its best if he gets blanked.

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16 Oct 2015 23:55:50
Haha certainly a special little snowflake. Get a grip OG.

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17 Oct 2015 01:21:24
someones on their period.

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17 Oct 2015 08:05:32
Sorry about the wife lads.

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16 Oct 2015 19:24:58
Are these injuries an indication of the lack of fitness training under Rodgers? Or is Klopps training just that intense?

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16 Oct 2015 20:11:42
Neither. They are just unfortunate injuries.

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16 Oct 2015 20:42:59
Tbf from what I've read so far Sturridge (possibly), ings, benteke, coutinho, firmino, Henderson and Gomez are all out. Plus new manager be an interesting game! Will truly test eds superstition!

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{Ed001's Note - good news is that it will be much easier to miss now that the Bodger is on the coverage here. I won't mind avoiding his attempts at punditry.}

16 Oct 2015 22:49:59
Gomez was done in an international match, Henderson I'm a game, Flanagan and Sturridge both long term and Ings was in training, they're all different so it can't be put down to one thing.

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16 Oct 2015 18:45:43
Ed1 very interesting to read what you said about different managers, my questions are do you think Klopp will get the same sort of funds as Rodgers to build a competitive squad? I also know how passionate you are about bringing our own players through. Realistically how long before we see that come to fruition with Klopp in charge? .

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{Ed001's Note - the club will struggle to put as much money at Klopp's disposal due to the amount wasted by Rodgers. So I can't see FSG being able to provide as much, which will mean we will have to bring players through.}

16 Oct 2015 19:20:53
There is no way Klopp would've taken this job if there was no money available.

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16 Oct 2015 19:56:16
He can raise quite a bit from player sales.

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16 Oct 2015 20:14:22
I think Ed002 mentioned earlier that bringing in Klopp is a sort of last chance saloon, as was confirmed to Ed002 by somebody advising FSG. Klopp and the owners have made it very clear that he wants to at least work with what he has got for now. Small changes will be made every summer, but I can't see the sort of spending we saw under Rodgers, and I will argue we don't need to spend big on 10 players every summer if we are prudent.

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16 Oct 2015 20:14:31
He`ll get some, for sure. Not a lot, IMO.

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16 Oct 2015 22:05:54
Don't you see the irony in what is being said. First you all say that Rogers bought crap, then you say that Klopp doesn't need to buy many because he has a good squad to work with. Make your minds up. And please remember Klopp is not Jesus so therefore is not a miracle worker.

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16 Oct 2015 23:23:58
Remember a number of players didn't move in the summer due to Euro 2016; I appreciate that all of the countries / players will know if they are going or not but it is still unlikely a number of players will not move until after the Euro's. So money or not there's not going to be much available. I also think we have a half decent squad - some gaps but i'd expect a tactically aware manager to get best out of what players he has - something Rodgers IMO didn't.

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16 Oct 2015 23:31:36
Red since 64, Rogers did buy crap, a and klopp has an okay players. That is because Rogers bought over 30 players one in every ten where good so lookout has few good players. See the logic from the above post now. On a side note, not a good way to start our new manager with all the injuries.

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17 Oct 2015 08:38:23
I think most appreciate that without success we are unlikely to see the sort of spending that BR was afforded. To bridge the gap somewhat between previous comments, I think we do have some decent players, brought in by BR. But those same players are yet to be considered good purchases. I'm hopeful that Klopp will be able to make them a success! Some won't make it and others will, but I'd like to see those replaced with quality rather than quantity. For that, we may need to use the finances to fund a few high earners rather than a high number of decent earners.

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{Ed001's Note - I think people are getting confused between Rodgers being criticised for buying players we didn't need, rather than buying bad players. When we needed a goalkeeper and centre back, Rodgers was buys collecting attacking midfielders like it was a Panini sticker album.}

16 Oct 2015 18:47:19
Just saw a video posted by a Liverpool page on one of our games against Spurs in recent years. Although coutinho has developed a lot since the video game, must be early 2014, he has, to me anyway, is so much more effective in the middle and picking the ball up deeper. He will probably score more goals playing wide left, but he's getting a bit predictable, and it's hard to pay through balls from the edge of the area. For me his best abilities is vision, creativity and the ability to skip past the first defender probably 8/10. I'm not sure he will play there against Spurs, but when we have two of sturridge benteke or firmino fit, I would love to see him in the middle again.

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16 Oct 2015 20:16:16
What? He has been playing centrally for large periods of this season and the last! He looked raw but excellent cutting in from the left whether it was in a 4-3-3 or a diamond, making it that much harder for him to be pinned down by a defensive midfielder in the opposition team.

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16 Oct 2015 22:52:10
How is any different being marked by a defensive midfielder than the right back? Yeah he has played centrally a bit but i'd prefer him deeper.

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16 Oct 2015 17:36:13
Eds did you get my post about a possible sturridge injury? If not the first sentence is self explanatory. May miss tomorrows game.

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{Ed001's Note - I am pretty sure it was posted up mate, Ed023 was discussing it on the widget, so I think he posted it up.}

16 Oct 2015 17:57:23
OK ed, cheers. Probably me not looking in the correct place. It's from a player this info so it's rock solid. Don't know if the media have got wind of it yet. Hopefully it's not to serious.

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{Ed001's Note - fingers crossed, we need him, oh and it is on the rumours page mate.}

16 Oct 2015 18:28:48
OK mate, nice one. Hopefully not.

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16 Oct 2015 18:38:36
Any other word from the players on how it has been with Klopp so far Waro? .

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16 Oct 2015 19:03:29
Not heard anything AG, the stuff I get now is generally related to b4 game although I was told about Rodgers getting sacked but macca stole my thunder, haha.

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16 Oct 2015 19:03:41
Vomit training apparently 😀.

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16 Oct 2015 20:17:43
Cheers Waro. Sturridge has apparently traveled with the squad for tomorrow, no idea if he will be involved.

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16 Oct 2015 20:00:23
He has picked up an injury of some sort then or not?

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16 Oct 2015 21:21:00
I put it on the rumours page Waro.

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16 Oct 2015 17:22:01
Evening folks

I would imagine on here the name G Neville would have everyone wanting him to f off but I think occasionally the penis talks sense, honestly. Just read an article in the online Telegraph were he basically says its now time Liverpool fans to stop fawning over JK and realise we ARE Liverpool FC, he JK, should be honoured to be our manager. IMO is probably profoundly proud and humbled to be wanted as manager of one of the giants of world football and a true football religion and that is why he will immerse himself in all things LFC not because the media have been falling over themselves taking pictures of him stroking a dog or having a fag with freinds and family at a L/Pool bar. What does everyone think?.

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16 Oct 2015 18:41:10
I think it's only natural that Liverpool fans are overly delighted with the Klopp'steria that has swept through the Liverpool fandom. When we look at the managers that have been in charge during FSG's tenure as our owners, Dalglish was the only manager that has been truly deserving, even with his long step away from the game his knowledge of our club is rivaled like no other and has pedigree of being a winner, again even if a long time had passed since his first stint as the Liverpool manager, but at least he got us to finals and a taste of silverware during his brief spell back in the LFC hot seat. Now FSG have gone out and seemingly got one of the current top managers within European football. I think it's quite similar to when Liverpool hired Benitez, we believed we were getting a winner, with a track record as opposed to Rodgers or even Hodgson who had not really won anything worthy of being appointed LFC manager, at least to satisfy a majority of fans expectations. I think it's worth a mention that Klopp and Benitez are similar in terms of breaking their national leagues strong holds, Klopp with Dortmund overcoming the force of Bayern Munich and Benitez storming Barcelona and Real Madrid with Valencia. Both having shown great awareness of European football competition as well, with Klopp getting to the Champions League final and Benitez winning the then UEFA Cup. So, i understand the Klopp wave of hope that has seemingly washed away the cobwebs of last season, Klopp is one of the managers of the moment and has reportedly been in high demand for quite some time even with a difficult campaign with Dortmund last season.

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16 Oct 2015 19:04:50
You were right with your first assumption. Neville can foxtrot oscar.

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16 Oct 2015 15:33:52
Edds with these injuries hitting Lfc do u think Teixeira and Enrique will be part of the team 2moro?

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{Ed001's Note - I really hope so, with regards to Teixeira, but I would think Enrique will be too busy snapchatting and twittering to actually play.}

16 Oct 2015 15:38:20
Hehehe I thought Enrique gve up on social media to concentrate on his career a few months ago

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16 Oct 2015 16:32:06
I'm Suprised you know what snapchat is ed001. Has Benny been teaching you the ways of the kids? Lol

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{Ed001's Note - ouch! I am still young mate, it is just doing this website that has aged me.}

16 Oct 2015 20:07:03
Haha only messing ed. ;) Loved the last podcast by the way.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers mate. Though you kids today should have more respect for your elders!}

16 Oct 2015 14:01:55
Hi eds,

How would you rate liverpool managers over the last decade. Some say roy hosgson was the worst, but he came at a difficult time and never had money to spent. Hows he doing with england?. I would like to know your thoughts on all managers. Say from houlier. If you are not busy. Eds

Thank you.

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{Ed001's Note - Houllier - tyrannical, overbearing, hated to be questioned and was completely out of touch with modern football. Succeeded to a degree, despite that, but inherited the basis of a good team playing fantastic football and failed to really build on it. Terrible judge of future talent and the coaching was appalling under him, every player struggled to improve technically.

Benitez - brought in some much improved coaches, in particular a fantastic goalkeeping coach and Pako Ayesteran, plus revamped the youth academy. Always tried to work on the players to make them better and to think more about what they did on the pitch. Far too defensive though and trusted his scouts far too much, plus his lack of man management skills required a huge turnover of players. Also he would not put first team squad members into the reserve games, which led to them getting rusty and never being able to perform when needed. Once he lost Ayesteran and Valero he struggled badly. With those two he was much better than Houllier, without them he was on a par. His constant talking about club affairs in the open, even prior to the arguments with G&H, was completely against everything the club had always done in the past. Plus he would constantly play petty politics to try and gain more power, rather than concentrate on his job.

Hodgson - average defensive manager who was simply not good enough to manage Liverpool in any way. Only knows about setting up to defend, and his whole game plan made Ged and Rafa seem like Pep Guardiola. He was handicapped badly by a lack of money, but he was never good enough to do any more than keep the club at about the level it was at.

Dalglish - was too hampered by working with a fool as Director of Football, so it is difficult to judge him as a manager second time around. He did make a complete mess of handling Suarez, but he was far above Hodgson.

Rodgers - without doubt the worst of the lot. Had plenty of money, but no idea what he was doing, despite his amazing arrogance and attempts to claim the credit for every little thing. Had absolutely no idea in the transfer market, had no idea about tactics, how to analyse the opposition, or how to play players in positions that suited their game.}

16 Oct 2015 15:56:48
Thanks ed good read :).

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16 Oct 2015 16:36:15
I would have Rodgers ahead of hodgson only for that brilliant season we finished second, but I am being very kind.

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16 Oct 2015 16:17:00
Really interesting thank you Ed! Would it be possible to give a few lines on Roy Evans, was gutted when he left always thought he was underrated at the time. Did a great job after the mess Souness left behind.

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{Ed001's Note - difficult one to do, for me, but Roy had us playing fantastic football, despite being severely hampered by not being able to get the players he wanted. Moores messed him about, continually interfered in dressing room management and completely destroyed any hope he had of creating discipline. It is hard to judge him, but the football he created was sensational and we were awesome to watch in the league. He struggled badly in Europe though.}

16 Oct 2015 16:25:13
Good read but not fun, you have to think the coaching choices have made a big difference to where we are. Compare that list to Mourinho, Wenger and Ferguson for example. I firmly believe Klopp is going to be fantastic provided we all act like adults and give him time and all calm down a bit from thinking he's the messiah!

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16 Oct 2015 17:00:24
Was not a fan of Rodgers at all but I think to rate Rodgers worst of all is slightly harsh. After all he still guide us to 2nd place which is the closest we been to title but credit to the individual brilliants of Suarez as well. I think Hodgson is the worst of all personally. The negative football always sitting back to let opponent attack us. When we had ball, got no movement or any idea what to do with it. And konchesky? Poulsen?

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{Ed001's Note - Konchesky and Poulsen was because of the finances, while Bodgers had huge sums, which he wasted continually and then when we had the ball we had no movement or any idea what to do with it, despite having much better players than available to Hodgson. Bodgers has to be rated worse because of the fact he produced a team just as bad but spent significantly more to do so. Added to that he was making the team worse and worse, with all the money spent.}

16 Oct 2015 17:52:21
Konchesky and Poulsem combined cost less than Aspas.

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16 Oct 2015 18:06:20
I'm with ed, Rodgers for me the amount of mine he's spent with no significant change. The other managers had no money and still did as well or at least got a trophy.

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16 Oct 2015 18:19:35
The thing that annoys me most about Houllier is that out of all the managers we've had, he was the most intentionally defensive. Season after season after season, the primary job was not to concede and then keep hoofing at Heskey and Owen and hope to sneak one - and if we did sneak one, Heskey would inevitably finish the game as an auxilliary left back. I also don't think he really rated intelligence in a footballer enough. Yes, he brought in McAllister because he was experienced and intelligent, but he'd have never paid £10m for a 25 year old McAllister. Yes, he paid £8m for Hamann, but I bet he wouldn't have been interested if Hamann hadn't been 6'2'' with big long legs for tackling. Everything that came out of Houllier's mouth when we signed a player was about how "physical", "quick" and "skillful" he was. Nothing about the squishy bit between the ears deciding what to do with all that pace, physique and skill, eh Ged? As for Woy, I've softened a little on him. He had no control over Jovanovic or Cole coming in, and I don't think he had much input on Meireles either, which was nearly every penny the club had to spend that summer gone. So he scrounged for Poulsen, who I actually thought would do okay, and Konchesky, both of whom were very much out of their depth. Now even with that squad, we still could've played much better footie than we did, and I think deep down he wanted us to. There wasn't the same intention to camp our own goalmouth and play hoofball like there was with Houllier, for example. But he was too scared or too tactically backwards to let the defense and central midfielders push up leaving too huge a gap to the forwards to actually play any sort of decent attacking football. So we just ended up knocking it long at Kuyt, N'Gog (who had about as much upper body strength as Joe Allen) and Torres (who didn't fancy it), which obviously didn't work.

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16 Oct 2015 18:29:28
Excellent posts from Ed001. I never liked Rodgers from the start and fail to understand why we chose him. Hodgson was obviously chosen because of his moderate success at Fulham? I have always wanted Paco Ayesteran to return.

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16 Oct 2015 18:32:35
Ugh, I thought I put paragraphs into that. Sorry people.

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16 Oct 2015 19:24:55
Fabulous post Ed001. Hard to disagree with anything, all points valid. Basically grown up with all the mentioned managers at the helm. Started going to anfield at the end of the Evans reign, my best experiences under Rafa without question, at times we looked like world beaters. I don't know about everyone else but under Rafa for a long period I always felt we we re a couple of players away from being the best in the league. I remember being about 14/15 and talking to an older chap who was convinced we would sign Duff and Quaresma and you just thought yeah that's what we need, never happened unfortunately.

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16 Oct 2015 19:41:46
Houllier had his faults but has everyone forgot 2001 when we won 3 trophies plus super cup and community shield. We would be ecstatic to achieve that now. Short memories some of you or too young?

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16 Oct 2015 20:20:42
Hodgson was small time. He had no ambition and came in with a mindset that keeping LFC in the PL was his aim. We never got to see how he would have evolved his team (thankfully) whereas with Rodgers, more than enough time and money was spend and we have much longer to judge him.

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16 Oct 2015 20:23:53
Aklfc, that doesn`t mean he was a good manager and had us playing fantastic footie. In fact, we were boring to a fault that season and in Europe, we would always park the bus in away games and git them on the break. That is not good footie and that IMO, got him fired IMO. As for BR, Ed already said that he was the worst manager of his lifetime and based on how he broke down the others, one can see why. BR was all talk, all mouth andd no action. Spends a lot of money only to have a team play just as bad as Roy`s team. Finally by breaking down all these managers, Ed has haven`t won the PL in 20+ years.

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17 Oct 2015 02:50:20
Sorry Edd not trying to argue with you here. But if konchesky and Poulsen is because of financial restriction, why sign them then? Would rather use younger players like jack Robinson/Brad smith. I don't think the squad now is as bad as then. We have player like Ngogo, jovanovic as well. And I'm not sure Hodgson can do any difference attacking wise even if he have better attacker. But I understand that consider the huge amount Rodgers spent we should be much much better. Can't stand Rodgers and how out of depth he is.

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{Ed001's Note - Robinson and Smith were not ready to be first choice then. The mistake was in not giving them a chance when Konchesky was shown to be out of his depth. You are right the squad was much worse back then, which is the point, Rodgers had a better squad but was making us look as bad as Hodgson did.}

16 Oct 2015 13:14:00
Ed's, a couple of questions. Firstly, do you think Klopp's intense full throttle training methods may exasperate our injury list further? Under BR, I felt many of the players didn't look 100% fit. It seems Klopp demands the players are at their peak (as he should). I know this has happened several times before, not necessarily with Liverpool. Secondly, what are your thoughts on the interesting articles emerging about about ACL injuries in 2015 and the boots the players where wearing when injured? It seems Nike has a lot to answer for if proven. Ings and Gomez both wore Nike boots. Thanks YNWA

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{Ed001's Note - Klopp's methods will not exasperate it, the lack of fitness will be an issue, but over time it should lead to less injuries as the players become stronger.

This has been known for a while, there have been links to different types of studs etc for years, but nothing is being done. It is odd when the sportspeople are worth so much to the clubs, yet they are so unprofessional in the way they manage them and the equipment they use.}

16 Oct 2015 13:54:22
Ed001, not really relevant I know, but you seem rather educated in all things football. What boots do you consider the best in this modern day? I've been looking at purchasing a pair of pantofola d'oro's recently, what do you think? Also, has anyone noticed how absurdly ridiculous it is to find a pair of boots that aren't illuminous pink or green! What happened to good old fashioned black?!

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{Ed001's Note - I have no idea to be honest, and it is really a personal preference thing.}

16 Oct 2015 14:57:52
I strongly advice everyone i know against wearing Nike boots. They're more style than substance imo

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16 Oct 2015 15:10:11
Ed1 with quite a few injuries mate, which players do you see getting a chance from the U21s or who so you feel is more ready mate?

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16 Oct 2015 16:10:57
Adidas Copa Mondial. They're not 'sexy, ' but they're a quality built boot -- German made, incidentally, not some sweatshop in south-east Asia -- with quality materials. They've been made since about 1980-ish, and while they haven't changed much, it's for a reason. They're a moderate price, generally, but genuine quality. The only thing they lack, perhaps, is a bit of sexiness. But if you're not looking for neon, that's probably not your concern.

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{Ed023's Note - My favourite boots to wear}

16 Oct 2015 16:20:50
I live in Spain and generally they are mostly 3g pitches where I am based. A lad who plays for the team I do had his brand new (expensive) Nike boots for "Artificial/ 3G pitches". 2nd time he wore them he went into a challenge and his boot ripped clean in half and had it not been for the opponent pulling out of the Challenge he could have had a nasty injury himself. Boots are getting more expensive, yet more flimsy and less protective and last less time. Rediculous! Gimme a pair of Puma kings any day!

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16 Oct 2015 16:20:50
Adidas Copas are quality boots. I've always had a soft spot for Puma Kings as well. Both good boots.

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16 Oct 2015 16:28:49
Ahoy – was always a Patrick man myself (Keegan, Liverpool, Platini & Diablo models were my 4 career favourites)

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{Ed023's Note - All the users named Patrick step forward, Boiled Onions is looking for a date}

16 Oct 2015 16:37:44
Note to all Patricks – I’m not that easy you’ve got to take me to the pictures first (hint -you stand a better chance if you’re wearing Lois courdroy’s too)

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{Ed023's Note - LOL}

16 Oct 2015 16:38:29
Or even exacerbate

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16 Oct 2015 18:03:56
Adidas world cups also.

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16 Oct 2015 19:07:34
Do they still make adidas predator? What a pair of boots they were, I think I had the ones Stevie had in 01/02 season with the grip on the inside for curve apparently lol. Cost me 120 quid but lasted me a good few years.

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16 Oct 2015 20:33:17
Adidas Copa Mudial is the best brand of boots of all time.

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16 Oct 2015 22:20:57
Copa Mundials are the best for everything, bar a competitive game. Depends what standard you're playing, but I doubt you'll see many Copa's the higher up you play. I do have a pair, but rate the Adipure I or the Accelerator as the best I've used for a competitive game.

Old school Puma kings were good too. Mizuno have had some decent pairs, Umbro Speciali, Alan Shearer specials were top boots too. Tunits killed it with a few pairs also. Ah, just name practically every boot, lol.

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16 Oct 2015 13:11:38
How reliable is Guillem Balague for rumours? Sky have got him down as Spanish football expert but all I see and hear is him saying Ronaldo to leave Madrid every window which never happens.

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{Ed001's Note - he built his rep on the back of being Rafa's mate and getting info off him. Oh and using ghostwriters for his website.}

16 Oct 2015 14:09:56
Balague hits about 1 in 40 rumours, he's a pathetic writer for me. He seems to constantly release information Real want him to. I have no idea how some one like that has such a large following. His articles he writes on that spanish website are always so wide of the mark. If you believe him, and what he writes you'd have probably lost £10, 00 betting on Benzema leaving for Man u, arsenal, PSG, Bayern, this list goes on. Same with Bale etc

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16 Oct 2015 12:27:05
Hi Eds,

Hearing Rossiter is now injured after playing 3 games in 5days on international duty. Is this true that he played 3 games within season in such a short period of time? Any info would be greatly appreciated before people start losing their minds and signing petitions for reds players not to play for England etc.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have not made any formal statement at this time - once they do it will be clearer how long it will take for his return. Ings was injured in training at Liverpool so it would be inappropriate to blame England for that.}

16 Oct 2015 13:11:52
I'm pretty sure ED01 was saying how modern day footballers should be able to play 3 games in a week and all that jazz last season. Working wonders for us at the moment that.

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{Ed001's Note - they should be able to, but the training is poor at Liverpool and even worse with the England sides.}

16 Oct 2015 13:42:26
Cheers Ed2. I know Ings was injured with LFC was referring to Gomez injury with the international setup and the fact that reds everywhere sadly these days go over the top whether there is good or bad news ("The normal one" tshirts being the most embarrasing before a ball is kicked! )

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16 Oct 2015 14:27:35
ED001, you mention that Liverpool's training is poor, do you know if Klopp will change this making training more intense ultimately making our players fitter and stronger? I used to be in the armed forces and a lot of soldiers were at a athletes fitness level so footballers should be at that level if not higher. Baz

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{Ed001's Note - he already has mate. They will be training much harder under Klopp than they were, they need to or they will not be able to play with the intensity he requires.}

16 Oct 2015 20:34:22
So they`d better get cracking, then because Klopp is no slouch.

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16 Oct 2015 11:39:48
Klopp has made a positive start to life at Liverpool and him alone has put some fear into the other teams and for Ferguson to say he is worried about the appointment of Klopp says it all really. The players have took to him well and in time they will all click but. This is still the team Rodgers has bought over the seasons and i hope that FSG recognize this and not jump on his back if things don't go to plan until he is allowed to get the players he wants.

None of us are expecting Lewondoski, Reus etc and if we all believed in the reports from the papers we would have half of the German league as his new team. For me personally Ian Ayre has to go (report about the Juventus Sporting Director. Goal Keeping coach should go and there should be a major re shuffle and let Klopp get who he wants.

This is FSG fifth year in charge of Liverpool FC and with not much to show at all, they need to sit down and re think about there transfer policy of buy them young and mix it up of getting experienced and young in but we have one of the best academy in England so use it. I don't know if people agree with em but i think this is a make or break decision by Fenway and if Klopp can't bring success i wouldn't be surprised to see them sell. Opinions always welcome.

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16 Oct 2015 12:35:52
I think FSG will sell either way. I'm not one of the conspiracy theorists here disliking them, I'm actually the opposite. I believe they always intended to sell but wanted to "save" the club first. First from administration. Then bring in some financial stability/growth. Then attempt to win the PL and fight for trophies. Klopp is the last throw of the dice for for them to bring in silverware before they sell. I hope it works for many reasons. For them I hope it works for if it doesn't and then they sell the will be remembered for that and not saving the cub from administration etc.

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{Ed002's Note - Administration would never have happened, an over played red herring as I explained on these pages at the time.

However, I can concur to some extent that this is the last throw of the dice - FSG have been advised very recently (this week) by a third party that the timing of this change is not good and it should have happened in the summer before the spend was committed. That has clearly left the responsibility in their court. I understand that there will be no lengthy periods of transition and that they are making an effort to keep as much in house as possible. I also understand that the newspaper that has been asking what the club consider to be "difficult" questions without reply, will be placated - I suspect with an interview in order to deflect.

They are well aware of the growing value of the club with the additional television income next season. They are also aware of the cost of Phase 2 of the redevelopment and that will be to the fore in regards of any exit strategy.}

16 Oct 2015 12:43:38
so you think FSG has not done that much for the club, they have just got one of the best managers in the world to manage ourt club, they have spent a lot of money on transfers and are building a new stand so for you to say they have nothing to show at all is way off base, they are new to the game and they have their own ideas on what they want to do, some of you may not agree with them but they have stood tall and not held nothing back even when BR was appointed manager a lot of people in the game thought it was a good move, as we know it never worked out, but they are not oil magnets who can just keep writing cheques out and pay stupid wages so when they have bought young potential to sell for a profit it was not to put in their pockets but to put back into the club which we all know they have done this, so what is your [point about them, don't forget everyone makes mistakes even you

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16 Oct 2015 14:19:29
First Ed thanks a million for the reply. Mbrock I'm actually a big fan of FSG. I've told the story before about how a TV news personality here in the US, Joe Scarborough is a LFC supporter due to FSG. He was a BOSOX fan and knew some of the upper management of FSG at the time. He went to the offices to meet them and was asked to wait while they finished a meeting. Apparently they had a "shrine" in the waiting area for Istanbul complete with TV and DVD of match. Joe asked what it was they made him sit and watch entire match.

Joe instantly became a fan of football and a supporter of LFC. When he told the story I was blown away for as he said they really care for the club and want to bring it back to the top. If they can make money while doing it no harm. Of course Noe could have been talking through his back side but the way he spoke about it seemed to be genuine. Mind you he would be the first to admit he never followed soccer thought it was boring etc until that moment. He became hooked.

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16 Oct 2015 21:26:00
Ian Ayre has to go? It was only weeks ago he was being congratulated on a great transfer window, now he's signed Kloop and now you want to fire him?

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16 Oct 2015 09:49:11
Has anyone been keeping tabs on Markovic this season. Has he been getting much game time ect? Cheers Edds

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16 Oct 2015 09:54:30
Did very well initially. Played a couple of games. Been out injured. Last 2 weeks. And won't be back for another week or so

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16 Oct 2015 11:11:37
Cheers 5ive, what position has he been playing mate

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16 Oct 2015 14:44:31
Goalkeeper, still acting under instructions from Him. 😜

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16 Oct 2015 09:23:28
Klopps training methods already showing effects. I hope he gets the entire team fit like alexis sanchez in due time
although initially i believe a lot of players might not be able to cope up with intense training but i think its for the good. We need fit and energetic players. As a fan as long as the players are running and working their socks off i don't care if we are winning or loosing. Though i am a little scared that their are too many injury issues now in the squad. Cant wait for the tottenham game - Win or loose i just want to see players give it their best shot.

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16 Oct 2015 10:14:48
How is it showing effects, haven't they only had one session as a team?

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