Liverpool Banter Archive September 16 2013

 

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16 Sep 2013 23:47:12
I don't want to be critical but do you guys think that this is not a second half problem. Teams start defensevly against us. When they figure out our midfield is exposed they start keeping possesion because we allow them. I don't buy this rodgers "planned" rubbish. I think this is gerrards and lucas fault. They both sith in our centre halfs laps being defenders not midfielders because it is easier for them. I hope this changes atleast captain should be closer to opponet goal. We need extra body in midfield. Just my opinion. But we have quality and we are top of the table! Roll on!
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16 Sep 2013 23:36:22
Hard first game for sakho, swansea away, but hopefully he will get up to speed with things soon. Still a positive start for us, next game: southampton (h) Come on u reds!

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16 Sep 2013 23:27:15
Got to be said that was possibly the hardest fixture we've had yet. I thought we'd get beat there tonight so I'm quite happy with the point. On a down side though Tinho looks like he's out and Aspas is completely out of his depth. Can't wait to get Suarez back now he'll tear these defences apart

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16 Sep 2013 23:18:58
top of the table.

everything else is detail.

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16 Sep 2013 23:17:54
I said a few days ago that I was worried about our right hand side- unfortunately I was proved right. Andre Wisdom will be a great player but he did not look comfortable there.
Kelly has played there before and I would start him there next week.
Although we were outplayed second half, We could have won that with Sturridge headed chance and better decision making on final ball. Must keep the ball better. Are we practising in these games- first half attack and second half defence?
All in all though a well earned draw and keeps our unbeaten run going.

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17 Sep 2013 00:06:11
Wisdom has somehow managed to escape the degree of criticism he deserves for both the 2nd goal and an overall poor performance. Glad to see him replaced by Toure. {Ed001's Note - how was he at fault for the 2nd goal? Skrtel's the leader at the back, he should be organising them and, when he is forced to cover Sakho, should be shouting Wisdom over. You can't expect a lad, who is already trying to cover two players on his own, to actually have the time to look and see where he is at every second and watch his own men. That young lad did well, in the circumstances, he was sold short tonight by the rest of the team.}

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Logic is what you need - Logic

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Think your been a bit harsh on skrtel ed hardy think nobody wants to blame sakho for diving in a lot first goal and running out of position for the second leaving space for shelvey toure should have started ahead of him and gave him more time to settle in my opinion

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A blind man could see Wisdom looked scared stiff and Sakho played like Djimi Traore on ice. But one is young and the other was playing his first game in England. It's unfortunate injuri have disrupted the back four so much. We looked solid with Toure and Johnson in there alongside Agger and Enrique. That said, Skrtel has done well in the last 2 games. I wouldn't have wanted to play between Wisdom and Sakho last night against tricky opponents and a hostile crowd. 10 points - just count them.

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16 Sep 2013 23:16:27
Swansea vs Liverpool.

Positives.

- Sturridge scored again
- Moses scored on debut and looked very positive
- Henderson ran round like a mad man and did well both offensively and defensively
- Enrique was solid
- We didn't lose
- for 60 minutes we looked very good and capable of winning
- Skrtel has another top performance at centre back
- Suarez is only banned for 1 more match, in games like this he might make all the difference between 1 point and 3
- Toure once again completely solidified the back line, even at right back made our defence look unbreachable

Negatives.

- negative tactics meant Swansea completely dominated the last half an hour, worrying theme prevalent in every game this season
- Wisdom isn't very good, positioning is bad, distribution is bad, technique is bad. when fit we need Kelly
- Gerrard very lacklustre
- Aspas has been very poor in all games so far, is he honestly better than Borini?
- Coutinho had to go off injured which really stymied any attacking intent we had
- Sakho played like Djimi Traore and kept on breaking the defensive line to go out and tackle players, partially at fault for the first goal and definitely at fault for the second.
- no Agger = no defensive organisation, he has to be the first name on the team sheet, was he injured?
- Mignolets distribution was atrocious


conclusion

In the circumstances a good draw but entirely of our own doing. Encouraged Swansea to attack so they did and we created nothing once we conceded the 2nd goal. Sturridge was quiet for most of the game but is deadly given a sniff, defensively Aggers absence was crucical. Skrtel played very well but he just cannot organise the defence the way Agger does. Sakho was very dodgy but hopefully improves as time goes on. Worrying trend to our games this season which is bright first half, grim defensive mindset second half - hope we are more attacking and ruthless in future. Aspas' form is very worrying, looks a phantom every time he play and needs to seriously pick up his form and performances. Wisdom is simply not good enough (and I would argue neither quick, positionally astute or technically adept enough) to play as a right back. Kelly should be given a chance IF fit - Luke Shaw will rip Wisdom apart on Saturday unless he is covered like he was today by Henderson. We didn't lose which is great but the unconvincing nature of our second half performance leaves a bitter taste. Never the less onwards and upwards, Southampton next, hopefully a game we attack from the outset and keep our foot on the pedal with for the full 90 minutes. {Ed001's Note - how can you judge Wisdom's positioning when he never had anyone to position himself alongside? Skrtel was constantly having to move over to cover Sakho and Hendo was playing narrow leaving him exposed. How was his technique poor? Do you actually watch him play or do you just decide to pick on him because he is the latest boo boy target? His technique is far from poor, see the piece of skill after coming on against United if you are wondering. Wisdom didn't have the best of games, but he was not at fault for that at all, unless you consider him not being able to be in 3 places at once a fault?}

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Don't take kindly to the "is he the latest boo boy" tripe. I've defended Borini constantly despite the grief he has been given, my criticism is nothing personal and based purely on what I have watched - if you disagree fine but don't try and label me a boo boy or as someone who just loves getting on players backs. I don't think pretending a player did well is helpful so I don't try to. I think Wisdom is much better at centre back and is poor cover at right back. He panics on the ball, constantly misplaces passes and offers nothing going forward. 1 flick against United proves nothing and as for Henderson playing narrow? He was covering Wisdom so much it was ridiculous. The shape doesn't look right when Wisdom plays, I am personally not a fan. To his credit he wasn't really at fault for either goal (could he of got a tackle in on Michu? in my opinion harsh criticism when attack stemmed from elsewhere) however I personally thought he was poor. Nothing about being a boo boy, getting on certain players backs or anything else, just what I saw from the game tonight. He wasn't the only player who failed to impress. {Ed001's Note - one flick? Try watching it and seeing what he actually did, then you can realise it wasn't one flick at all. You clearly have the hump with Wisdom, you clearly have decided he is useless and won't hear anything else said. You also have no idea about shape if you think he effects it in the slightest! He got forward and no one passed to him, not his fault. He didn't panic on the ball, even when being chased back with everyone else in the team running away from him and not helping him. Instead he just kept going until he got into a position he could play a safe pass back to the keeper, though he could have tried to beat 3 players and create space, that would have been idiotic as he was our only player on the right side of the pitch. The shape of the team was nothing to do with Wisdom, Rodgers wanted Hendo to go narrow, which created gaps defensively. Going forward, he got forward but was never given a decent pass or an option to play the ball when he had it. You are blaming the wrong lad completely, he did nothing wrong, he was in a no hope position last night and just did his job as best as could be done.}

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17 Sep 2013 00:10:33
Ed, I disagree with the posters points on Wisdom. You are correct in that he has put in many solid performances - including 60 minutes of today's match. That said, he allowed Michu to get past him far too easily for the second and he seemed to never recover after that. {Ed001's Note - I am sorry but I disagree on allowing Michu past him, he had to look over from his two men to spot Skrtel rushing away to cover a gap Sakho left, then try and race to fill it. The fault is Skrtel's for not calling to him to move in as soon as he started to cover just as much. This is why Skittles got dropped in the first place, he doesn't communicate with his team mates enough. He is simply not vocal enough to lead a line. That is why Skittles and Sakho was doomed to fail until they had the chance to play together a few times and build up an understanding. A vocal player could have talked Sakho and Wisdom through the game and, while it would still have been imperfect, it would have been a bit more organised.}

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Just want to point out ed (as I don't see us resolving our difference of opinion on Wisdom) that I wasn't playing him for the result or the teams performance. I thought he was poor but he wasn't the only one, the negativity after Coutinho came off was detrimental to the whole team and I think it lead to both Swansea's second goal and our dire performance for the last half an hour. {Ed001's Note - I just think people are on his back for nothing, it was tactics that left him with an impossible job marking two people. With Skrtel not talking and rushing off to cover for Sakho's wild lunges, he was suddenly left with a third place to be as well. The poor lad was not bad, the tactics and performance left him all at sea. It was just one of those days. Sakho will hopefully not get so carried away in future, and will have someone alongside him to talk and guide, both him and the full backs.}

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Too me Wisdom was solid. Sakho is the main worry. Barely looked interested, 17 mil for a defender is extremely steep and he's going to have to do a lot more than what he did last night to justify his price. Rodgers should be worried (with regards to Sakho)

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Wisdom as usual has been over-hyped, he, s average at best, for some reason people, certain edds included, seem to think that if a Liverpool youngster has one good game then he, s the next messi, "one swallow doesn't make a spring"

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I think it's sakho fault for running out you like he is running away from goal not a goal treat if he stayed back there's no goal wisdom was left to fill skertels space because he had to cover sakho's like how do people not get this

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Were you watching another game? Sakho intercepted many dangerous attacks, the first goal was lucky and NOT entirely his fault. I thought defensively he was our most solid player along with Skrtel.
Wisdom, Lucas, Gerrard, Enrique all looked lost in defense.

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16 Sep 2013 23:06:25
I got shouted down on here for mentioning this after the Villa game, but there you go, that's why I typed about it at length. In the second half of matches, we are just hanging on and struggling. At times I did wonder if Carroll was still with us and if Kenny was still the manager, because we hit over 15 long passes that lost us possession, we barely passed the ball 3 successful times in the opposition half in the last 45 mins. That's a classic example of why we are not as good as the hype we believe, but we could be with a bit of direction and managing which I don't feel Rodgers is doing pitch side.

We survived a penalty in the dying moments of the Stoke match to claim the win, we survived a few Benteke shots and especially towards the end of the match with Mignolet making a wonderful match winning save to get the three points, we were woeful against Notts County until extra time but against much weaker opposition we were able to battle to victory. We got our noses ahead against United and managed to hang on for the three points but just now, against Swansea in the second half showed how weak we can be when we put our heads down, yet again it's always in the second half of matches.

We had 5 shots on target against Swansea's 9, we had 42% of ball possession to Swansea's 58%. We may have returned to the top of the League but this is not good enough. We've thrown away two points and it's completely unnecessary. I would love a member of this community to give me the first half statistics for the comparison. I understand this is knee jerk reactionary anger, but it's been 50-50 every game so far. Huge inconsistencies in the first half and second half of Liverpool's matches. We rolled over for Swansea and reminded me of the 2-2 Arsenal Liverpool match last season.

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17 Sep 2013 07:49:48
It's not like The Liberty Stadium is an easy place to go,
I agree that our second half performances are not good enough, totally, but to make out its such a formality is disrespectful to Swansea.

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16 Sep 2013 23:04:35
i nearly cried when aspas came on

we had an opportunity to have moses and sterling wide and stretch them and have two outball foran under pressure midfield, pace to hit them on the counter forcing their defense back a bit and he brught on mr nothing

idunno I hope aspas proves me wrong. he might be handy against cannon fodder at home but I don't see anything in himyet that sass he s a Liverpool quality player

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Moses looked very tired before he came off. Coutinho was injured. We don't have a huge amount of strength in depth.

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Tom I agree. I wanted either Sterling to replace Coutinho or Luis Alberto.

you don't replace a midfielder with a striker who can't retain possession against a team like Swansea.

Maybe Rodgers didn't bring Alberto on because the lack of impact he had in the United game but bringing Aspas on and forcing Sturridge to go wide was a bad judgement call on the managers part.

I wanted to reply yesterday but thought let he sleep on it so I don't come off as a .

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16 Sep 2013 22:59:40
Really poor second half. You can't fault Coutinho for not playing as well this season as we sit back alot. This match reminded of how poor our defense can be.Sahko, cost us the game. Wisdom was useless, and should never be played there again. And Rodger really need to work on our counter-attacks.

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wisdom was left at sea on the right hendo was mostly in the middle.sakho made some mistakes but he wasn't poor the last ditch challenge he made to stop michu alone shows how good he can be.what was clear to me is there wasn't any communication btw sakho and skrtel

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17 Sep 2013 00:16:52
Sakho played one game and made some impressive tackles in dangerous areas. Just admit his timing was perfect.

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I think the midfield let us down.

we left wholes in front off Sakho so he steps up to close down a player 10-15 yrds infront of him [which should have been done by lucas or gerrard], and leave space in behind for shelvey.

I'm not at all excusing Sakho of all blame but his mistakes where from feeling vulnerable and exposed, if Allen were available we would have had an extra body in the middle closing players down and someone who can help retain possession with simple connecting passes.

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16 Sep 2013 22:44:14
If johnsons out for the next five weeks then Kelly has to be given a crack at right back, he's been injury free from the start of the season surly it doesn't take that long to get fit, no offence to wisdom but he's far superior with lots more experience unless of course Rodgers just doesn't fancy him.

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I think its because of his injury record the club don't want to rush him, and I think he would have really struggled with the way swansea attacked us.

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Admittedly i'm angered in the fashion Liverpool played in the second half and when Wisdom was under pressure he wasn't getting much support, once Swansea and ourselves figured this out it is Rodgers job to change things. Rodgers shouldn't put Kelly on the bench, if Kelly isn't fit enough to play a part when needed.

In truth, Michu's equaliser came through the middle of the defence, after Jonjo ran 30 yards straight through our midfield and then defence unmarked and getting the flick on, after starting the piece of play.

Although Sturridge has started really well and seems to keep us in goals, he really should have finished his header, that would have killed the match and we'd all be signing. But to let them get their foots back into the match is really disappointing for me personally, never mind missing, just stop them from scoring. Just my opinions though.

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Sturridge's header would of made it 2-1.

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Even if sturridge's header made it 2-1 who would say if moses would have made it 3-1.

life doesn't work that way.

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That was my point - Moses made it 2-1 yet we didn't win so to assume that if Sturridge would have done so we would have won the game was foolish.

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16 Sep 2013 22:37:10
In games gone by we would have lost these sort of games. i'm happy enough to still be unbeaten and a tricky fixture out of the way. Roll on the next game. Its good to see Brendan with tough decisions on who to leave out instead of the team picking itself.

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True the first four matches would have been draws and losses last year brave men we looked tired today especially Steven Gerrard who maybe is getting to old to play internationals and then league matches he should have a think and by the way Sturridge is not 100% fit just yet tonight done him good

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I thought Rodgers was very slow to react to Swansea's 2nd half pressure, Lucas was slow to the ball in the 2nd half and we as a team stopped pressing, Coutinho went off and after that Jonjo Shelvey was able to dictate the game much more in the second half. Tough to take on the chin really. {Ed001's Note - he did make some changes, just not convinced they were the right one. Clearly Gerrard was told to press Shelvey when he dropped deep, he was chasing him into the Swansea half at times. All that did was leave a space, it should have been left to a forward to push onto Shelvey, when he dropped that deep.}

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16 Sep 2013 22:36:39
Gerrard and Lucas look far more comfortable sitting back, jogging to close down spaces than they do passing the ball around. Everytime our centre backs get the ball they end up having to go back to Mignolet to kick long - there are no options in midfield! I think we are unfortunately playing square pegs in the centre at the moment, I think Alberto deserves a chance to show that he game keep posession in midfield. Not a bad result but our second half displays are very worrying - and I think it's because our Midfield is happy to allow pressure.

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That's what I think aswell Gerrard and Lucas don't have the legs to press for 90 minutes, hence why Henderson is so vital.

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The shape the team took on in the second half was negative, Swansea started pressing much more and started forcing us into mistakes.

Laudrup subbed arguably his sides best player at half time in Nathan Dyer, Swansea changed tactics and Rodgers didn't until forced into doing so when Coutinho left holding his shoulder. IMO

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We played well and were having the better of the game until Coutinho came off injured.

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16 Sep 2013 22:36:28
Good result, poor performance, lots to sort out on the training ground this week. Sakho will get better and stop diving in so much, Moses looked good and will get better as he gets match fit, my only major concern is Mignolet's distribution, very poor, constantly giving the ball back to the opposition and putting us under pressure.

However we are top of the league so have to be happy and remain positive. Southampton could be another tough game at the weekend. {Ed001's Note - I would also say that Mignolet takes too long to make a decision, regarding his distribution, giving the opposition time to set themselves.}

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I agree ed001, especially the ball to Sturridge near the end. A worrying aspect is that the bench are watching it happen all game yet did not talk to players to address the problem. Still, onwards and upwards, these are the problems that the coaching staff and management are paid to solve and in those we have to trust.

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Exactly ed.and his distribution is key to the way we play also felt he could have done better for the second goal

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Distribution was poor but harsh to criticise him for the second goal, Sakho chasing the ball and subsequently being caught out of position lead to the second goal, not an awful lot Mignolet could of done about it - he can't make miracle saves every single game.

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16 Sep 2013 23:18:24
The fact that he stops the ball from going into the net too often is unimportant? Reina's distribution wasn't always of the highest class. Give the lad a chance.
DM2013

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17 Sep 2013 00:22:08
Remind me how many monstrous punches Simon made today. He played sweeper and keeper.

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16 Sep 2013 22:36:22
Maybe we may have lost that game in past seasons. Not a great second half performance but we didn't lose. 10 points out of twelve is a fantastic start. I believe that we will improve. We need to address how we are approaching the second half of games, and I think we will. On to the next game.

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16 Sep 2013 22:34:28
Thought we lost our shape and verve when coutinho went off. Without him there was no out ball, only sturridge, and the swansea defenders ganged up on him easily. Coutinho holds the ball up well, brings others into play. I'd say he was the difference between a good first half and a crap 2nd. Hope he's back for the weekend.

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Coutinho wasn't in the game before his injury.for me brendan needs to play alberto now with coutinho injured

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16 Sep 2013 22:34:01
I thought Wisdom had a really good game. A young lad with loads of potential. More than capable of having a run in the side. {Ed001's Note - I just felt sorry for him, he was constantly facing two opponents on his own, as Hendo was obviously under orders to stay narrow when we lost the ball. To top it off, Sakho was constantly getting caught out, leaving Skrtel having to move over to cover, meaning he was then having to try and cover that space too. He had no hopes of a good game and did well as could be expected.}

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Thought he looked decent in the tackle but a bag of nerves on the ball. When the hell is Kelly ready for a game?

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Exactly what I taught play center half all my life (clearly not at that level) but what can you do if toure is only back maybe a bit dodgy fitness wise we missed agger so much tonight to soon for the new lad

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Its typical brendan always making the young players the scapegoats.gerrard offered nothing in midfield should have brought on alberto or moved hendo there
I really like sturridge but he needs to work harder for the team, must it be a great pass before he chases after the ball, he just jugs around until he gets the ball at his feet.there have been countless times when suarez makes a terrible pass look great, runs his socks off holds off the ball and wins free kicks to relieve pressure on the defence
No offense if suarez gets back sturridge should make way {Ed001's Note - I really don't know what game you watched, Sturridge does chase back for the team, when there is a striker alongside him. He also does a lot of selfless off the ball running for nothing other than to open up space for team mates (see the Moses goal for reference). The lad isn't even fully fit, he did fine and it would be idiotic to drop him after 4 goals in 4 games!}

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Though he was poor positionally and especially in possession and distribution. Didn't know what to do going forward and defensively kept on moving right to the centre of the pitch meaning Henderson had to track back all the time. Kelly certainly the better player and if fit surely starts ahead of him. {Ed001's Note - you are talking nonsense, his positioning was fine, it was a lack of cover and he didn't get a decent pass when going forward nor anyone offering him a pass out when he did get the ball. Kelly may well be the better player, but your criticism of Wisdom just smacks of someone who has not actually watched how he played and was constantly exposed by a centre half pairing that were not working together and a midfield that was too narrow.}

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I watched the entire game. A right back is supposed to play on the right side of the pitch in line with his defenders right? And provide an outlet/attacking option when attacking (not all the time but it does make a difference in terms of creating space). Wisdom didn't do that and in fact was central so many times it was frightening, the centre back pairing was very iffy but that doesn't mean the right back becomes a third centre back surely? I thought Henderson played well and provided good cover, right midfield isn't his strongest position I admit but it wasn't like Swansea were doubling up on Wisdom. If he can't defend against a player 1 v 1 on the wing then I would argue he isn't fit to play as a right back.

What I say isn't nonsense its an opinion, no more or less valid than yours. I watched the game and in my opinion Wisdom was very poor. Compare his performance to Enrique's and the difference was astronomical. {Ed001's Note - actually, a right back is meant to cover the centre when his centre half is pulled out of position. That is what he did. Compare that to Enrique, who was stood watching Skrtel cover the gaps Sakho left, rather than filling in himself. Sorry but you are quite simply wrong. Hendo did not provide any cover, are you sure you have any idea what you are talking about? Hendo was central and kept having to race over after the ball is played to help out Wisdom, who was constantly facing two men. You need to take some coaching courses or something, because you have no idea what a right fullback is meant to do.}

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16 Sep 2013 22:32:49
Im just glad my heart still works.

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16 Sep 2013 22:28:38
Jesus we missed agger tonight second goal was hard to take but my heart goes out to sakho seven o clock thrown in the deep end hard to take some very good flashes from him along side some bad things but a draw was fear lucky and unlucky at stages

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16 Sep 2013 22:24:30
maybe allen should come in now. because he keeps the ball very well. he may not be you guys favourite. but we need his keep ball skills.

without johnson. no one is making the right wing area. henderson seems to be in the team to make his presence felt defensively in the right side.

but maybe if we have an attacker. we wouldn't need to worry.

very poor second. needs to change.

our next few games are going to be hard.especially southampton guys. these guys are very good

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16 Sep 2013 23:00:14
The only feasible role I see for Allen atm is as a 60-70 minute sub to come on and, as you say, keep the ball.

To start him, I just don't see who he'd replace. He's really not good enough in the top third to replace Coutinho if he misses games with the injury. I wouldn't drop Hendo and reshape to accommodate him. And imo, Gerrard and Lucas are just plain in better form than him for the deeper midfield positions.

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To be honest I d consider dropping gerrard for allen rght now if he was fit

stevie always tries the hollywwood balls when we jut need someone to kee it simple. poor distribution again today

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16 Sep 2013 22:24:13
Listen guys we played poorly in the 2nd half but hey we would of lost these types of games last year so we've improved, but more improvement is needed but none of us would of said No to 10 points I wouldn't of for sure, now tonight personally would of put Alberto on instead of Apas and don't get me started with sterling but hey it's football and it's all opinions

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16 Sep 2013 22:17:54
very encouraging start to the season.top after 4 games and unbeaten.im sure we will play better and score more goals in games as the season progresses.also suarez to come back so all in all very happy

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Yeah we need to play better in the second half. But give the players that need to play better a slap on the face, get fit for the next game and a win is so badly needed against Southampton.

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16 Sep 2013 22:09:01
Feel slightly disappointed with the draw, especially as we were in a winning position. Still though, if we were offered 10 points from the first 4 games at the beginning of the season we would have taken it for sure. Remember, we only got 2 points from the first 5 games last season.

Thanks also to Chelsea for giving us all these young, hungry and talented players. Keep it up!

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16 Sep 2013 22:07:47
Great game of football very entertaining.
Glad we still undefeated just wanted to get other opinions on our second half performance the last couple of games.
Felt our players seemed to have lead feet during second half, first half they chased our shadows second half we couldn't keep
Hold of
The ball. Has our fitness regime changed.?
Wisdom although I like him
And think he will be a great player but looked poor under pressure and when defending at pace.
Gonna withhold judgement on sahko.
Very happy with first half really think LFC need to look at fitness in second half. Any opinions?

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Skrtel mom for Liverpool again. Fair play to john jo he had us in his back pocket second half.

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The only conclusion I can come to is that BR has them running on a treadmill during halftime. I've never seen a team, none of whom have played a game for at least a week, look so knackered. No enthusiasm, little pressure, poor, poor passing. It's all very strange really.

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Can see teams opening us up!

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Exactly what I was going to write. They were knackered. Shelvey jogged into midfield or assist on second goal. No one following him. BUT, we got the point, move on.

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16 Sep 2013 22:51:20
I have to agree about the 2nd half performance and i'm a little worried that this is becoming a recurring issue with our performance rapidly fading in the second half. Whether this is a lack of fitness or BR strongly believing in the quality of our defence and hoping to attack on the break i'm unsure, but it certainly wasn't an issue last season so I hope this is something BR works on.

The big issue for me from today's game was the lack of any threat as soon as Coutinho went off (who I seriously hope isn't out for long). Aspas for me has yet to cut it, in my opinion he seems too lightweight and has struggled to make a real impact in any game he has played in so far although I really do hope I am proved wrong. I certainly think we need to improve our link up play from defence to midfield in the second half when it seems Gerrard and Lucas are often forced too deep and Sturridge isn't as effective when dropping back into midfield to get involved in the game.

Despite a poor second half performance today 10 points from 12 is a brilliant start and I think there are real positives to be taken from the performances of Moses and Sturridge getting another goal. I'm very hopeful for the Southampton game and hope we can build on our great start.

Cheers.

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Bit unfair to Aspas, I think. He's a striker, not a number 10. For me, I thought it an odd substitution by BR honestly. Alberto would have made far more sense, or move Henderson central, and bring on another player at RM for Hendo (Ibe?). Asking Aspas to play CAM was doomed to failure, unfortunately.

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16 Sep 2013 23:21:06
I agree, tough game but yeah, they looked knackered!
Reminds me of how Arsenal used to cut through teams,

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16 Sep 2013 22:07:40
This game was like England being desperate for a draw in Ukraine. Test the waters, see if a goal can be scored, if not, just rely on the other matches to keep us good for the season. The next matches for us are actually quite decent, we are top by a point, and can easily maintain this sort of run for the next 4-5 matches.

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16 Sep 2013 22:07:28
On the bright side, one more game till Suarez returns!

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Yeah we have done really bad without him.

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Yeah but we could have done with him today.

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16 Sep 2013 22:06:57
Well, I'd imagine the talking point from a Liverpool point of view is going to be Sakho.

IMO, Carra was a little hard to say he had was having a bad game at half time, but he wasn't good either.

His MO seems to be to try to get to the ball first no matter what. There were a few times when he went for the ball with no real chance of getting there (most notably for Shelvey's goal). I'm also not 100% sure about his positioning on Michu's goal. In terms of positives though, he made some good challenges, he's quick, he's strong and he's decent on the ball.

He has potential to be a very good centre half, he just needs to start picking his moments to go for it and when to stand off.

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Second goal was down to him running out like a headless chicken if he pushed the player on shelvey would have no space to run in to do you think Agger would have ran out like that but first game against a team who wanted the win so much isn't bad least he knows how tough the league is!

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If it was n't for Skrtel (who had another very good game) it could've been worse for Sakho, who was out of position in a lot of times. I agree that Sakho will be better, much better, but on today's performance I think Carra was absolutely right.
But anyway, the important thing we are top of the league after 4 games, what a brilliant start

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I just think skrtel and sakho didn't communicate properly(cos of the language barrier)toure and sakho together won't be a problem dezyboy

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16 Sep 2013 22:54:35
My initial reaction to his role in Michu's goal was actually the same as yours but 2 things made me take a softer view:

1) Lucas or Gerrard should've tracked Shelvey. I honestly can't remember which of them was with him in the initial build-up, but they were both 10 yards the wrong side when he won the header.

2) Sakho pushed out to stay close to Bony. If he'd stayed put, and the ball had gone short to Bony who'd then turned and hurt us with a run or through ball, Sakho could well have been hammered for not pressing him.

I'd say the real issue is that Skrtel stayed deep to mark Michu (consequently anchoring the fullbacks deep too), whilst Sakho pushed out and they didn't keep a line. They should've either both stayed deep or both pushed up and brought the whole line with them. Given the position on the pitch, I'd probably come down in favour of Skrtel's decision as the right one. But I'm really not 100% sure.

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Disagree completely. Bony was going nowhere in that position, he was 40yards from goal - even if he turns and runs he's going to have to do something outrageous to score from there. Sakho left a gaping hole at the back Shelvey exploited, if he doesn't go walk about we don't concede. I know fans like to go easy on new signings and I am not suggesting he is awful - first game in English football is never easy, anybody remember Skrtels!? I've no doubt he will improve but let's not sugar the pill, he was poor tonight. Agger makes all the difference, his organisation of defence isn't given the credit due.

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16 Sep 2013 22:05:43
I know we are top of the league but that has to be a wake up call now . We can't go the whole season playing well in the first half then sitting back and inviting pressure in the 2nd half . It has happend in all our league games so far this season . Swansea play good quick passing football so you can't let teams like that have the ball . But onwards and upwards boys .
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16 Sep 2013 22:05:43
Honestly to me, I believe Liverpool deserved to lose the game. From the end of last season to the beginning of this season they may still be undefeated but they look like two different teams. Last season created many more chances to score in games and played more fluidly. Now it seems as though they are barely creating any chances. During this game the ball barely made it up to sturridge or moses. Too bad coutinho got injured but even before he went off he wasnt giving many good passes. I feel the team has lost something, whether it maybe creativity or accuracy. Some passes we gave away easily, we did not control the tempo during the game and we did NOT pressure Swansea as much as we should have. Great to be back to the top of the league but if we want to stay there we have to show greater performances of creativity and pressure in order to beat opponents not just rely on our defense.

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For the last half an hour what you say may hold true but for the first 60 minutes we created a number of chances and had a good amount of attacking possession whilst limiting Swansea. We need to maintain our attacking threat for 90 minutes however a balance does need to be struck. How many times did we have lots of attacking opportunities last season only to lose games? Football isn't just about attack, we're more solid this season and that ultimately will win us a lot of points. Tonight wasn't great but we will play better.

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16 Sep 2013 22:05:28
Hooow frustrating is it wtching ASPAS!

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I am a bit disappointed with him (Aspas), I really thought he will be an exciting player, but so far he is reminding me of Assaidi, lots of energy but nothing useful of it.
I am still convinced he'll come good, he may need few months to settle in.

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16 Sep 2013 22:04:56
Sakho very good in air but dives in too much but great passing at times!

Moses brilliant in 1st half got tired at end

Wisdom not a right back soo stop cussin him

Sturrirdge not fit but needs to work bit more for team

Aspas was very poor but a point taken let's move on

Abbas lfc

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16 Sep 2013 22:04:01
Shocking performance in that second half, Swansea bossed it easily, this has now happened in the 4 league games and also the capital cup game against Notts County, this needs sorting out immediately. We are going to be found out soon enough if this keeps up, we can't rely on hanging in for 45 mins in a each game all season.

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16 Sep 2013 22:03:42
Apart from sloppy back pass and the other stupid pass, that by the way I've seen Gerrard do for both club and country on several occasions was by far the stand out player, great goal and lay off for michu I think he totally bossed the game I still can't for the life in me understand why we let him go at just 21 the kids got a great future we should of just loaned him out for a season.
Apart from that well done lads showing good resilience still top of the league, bring on utd

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Take it you mean shelvey, baby.

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Think the 2 sloppy passes which lead to goals explains exactly why we let him go. Also a yellow card and foul hazard (see Tottenham vs Swansea) and not technically adept. He wanted to prove something tonight which is why he played so well but he was never going to fit in at Liverpool - why keep him?

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16 Sep 2013 21:59:15
Aspas is shockin bad buy in my eye! Seems like we play for 40 mins and then switch off let teams come at us won't be long before that pass out from the back catches us out we made hard work of that il take the point we dudnt deserve in the end! what does anyone think?

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16 Sep 2013 21:59:14
Ed fellow reds, lucky point tonight, back four looked rubbish bar skerts . Aspas needs to go on loan lazy little rubbish .the team looked very tired after 55 minutes again, same in every game so far 10 minutes into second half look leggy . {Ed001's Note - Skrtel was as much at fault as anyone, he was allowing himself to be dragged out of position, rather than screaming at Sakho to stay on his feet.}

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Aspas lazy? He was running around everywhere if my memory's correct, it clearly didn't help that we were pegged in our own half.

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Aspas is far from lazy, have you watched us at all this season?

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Aspas is not good on the ball he is kyut in a Spanish version

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I think it's rough on Skrtel as he was doing a job and a half today, Sakho took unnecessary risks and Skrtel was just following his marker not knowing what Kolo or Sahko were doing, or would likely do, Skrtel had to cover Sakho more than once, Sakho's header back across goal to Henderson was the lead up to Shelvey's goal, Sakho should of just headed it out for a corner.

It's worth bearing in mind that Skrtel hasn't had a chance to play with either Kolo or Sakho (obviously it's his baptism of fire) so things will get better but I don't think Skrtel should be thrown under the bus. Lucas was a mile away from Jonjo I thought.

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Harsh on Skrtel ed he played well, made good interceptions (both in the air and on the ground), prevented a certain goal in the first half and held his position - when your fellow centre back loses hisposition your dragged out of yours, that was the problem. Sakho's lack of positional sense and ability to stay on his feet was entirely his own doing. {Ed001's Note - not harsh at all, if your partner is not doing well on his debut, then it is your job to help him. Skrtel has always lacked that vocal quality required to be a top class centre half, he doesn't organise the defence well at all. It is a partnership and it failed miserably tonight, they were completely lost, both were at fault. Yes it was Sakho making the errors, but Skrtel was not speaking to him, demanding he drop back, instead he was just dropping deeper, compounding the errors by providing even more space for their attack to work in. If he was not going to talk to Sakho, then he has to push up with him or pull right in behind him immediately, while calling in Wisdom and the midfield to cover the gaps left. He did not do either and we suffered.}

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So Sakho is out of position, committing himself and sliding in wildly and its Skrtels fault for telling him not to do it? Come on I know Skrtel isn't the greatest communicator, he proved that last season, but I don't think communication is an excuse for an international centre back to keep piling forward (exposing all 3 fellow defenders) to make wild sliding challenges. I agree that Skrtel is not a good organiser but I don't think he played badly or did an awful lot wrong tonight. Trying to blame him for Sakho's glaring errors is very harsh. {Ed001's Note - no, I said he was also at fault for not organising it better, not all his fault. And it is a partner's responsibility to have a word with another partner when they are letting the team down. Not stand and watch them do it repeatedly.}

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I believe for his first match Sakho was great and Skrtel was also very good as usual. The problem was that our midfield was being dominated by them especially when Coutinho was injured thus inviting more pressure on the defence. However, we were missing Johnson very badly in the match because Wisdom was not to the standard.

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16 Sep 2013 21:58:41
So this is what it's been like to follow united. Play crap and still top of the league! Really missed Johnson today, really weak on that right side. Also struggling to understand how we can hand over the initiative in games. Mind you makes up for battering teams and only getting a draw. Loss if Phil isolated Sturridge in the second half

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16 Sep 2013 21:57:49
Why are we playing so tentative and defensive against Swansea after they draw level? I feel like we should be dominating the scoring chances and we're so not. Very frustrating to watch us just give the ball away with deep passes, seems like a bad strategy even from a defensive standpoint, Swansea had far more chances on goal because of it.

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16 Sep 2013 21:56:52
Dear Liverpool.
Please stop trying to kill me with stress in the second halves of your games.
Many thanks. Carny.

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+1 mate Christ if I didn't have short hair I would have tonight for FS let's lose a game (then win them all) I'm going frigging mad.

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16 Sep 2013 21:56:49
Moses played well
sakho poor first half much better second half
hope countinho isn't out for long nasty challenge by williams
Decent Performance Decent Result

But what was shelvey doing something he showed all his strengths and weaknesses in one match!

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16 Sep 2013 21:55:32
Okay five games into the season what is noticeable to me is a complete contrast in our second half performances compared to our first. Lucky to get the point today, onto the next game.

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16 Sep 2013 21:53:33
Good point, but yet again another disgraceful 2nd half

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16 Sep 2013 21:48:19
Questions have got to be asked regarding our second half displays this season. We look a shambles, no confidence and can't get out of our own half.

Sort it out BR

Cheers

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16 Sep 2013 21:45:43
LFC's transition from defence to offence looks poor

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16 Sep 2013 21:30:43
Gerrard is being wasted by being asked to sit too much
We shouldn't be playing with 2 holding midfielders

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Don't agree, not the rampaging player he was and is dictating the games from a deep position. Looks very good this season

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I've been making this point all season, I thought it was only me that noticed.

There is no point playing with 2 defensive midfielders at all; that is the reason we lack an attacking threat.

The frustrating thing is we're using it at home against weaker opposition as well and it begs the question "What is Rodgers thinking behind it all?". It'll be the same against Southampton.

Use Lucas as the only holding midfielder and push Gerrard further up the pitch to roam and create some chances for the team.

Gerrard has been under-performing all season and it's solely down to this role given to him by Rodgers.

Other than that I can only be satisfied that we didn't lose tonight.

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I don't disagree with two holding players so much, but I would swap hendo for gerrard in that role.

gerrard of course can play both positions better than hendo but it's goals we lack and he can create them

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Gerrard doesn't have the legs for that anymore. That's what we tried first half of last season when he was absolutely woeful. Probably why Sahin also tanked with us because they both play in the same position and we played him as an attacking mid.

If we had a more mobile defensive midfielder next to him this wouldn't be a problem. Henderson wouldn't have to be in the side to do all the leg work and we could play a proper attacking front four.

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I don't agree with you as actually Gerard best position is DM because remember his age, he is definitely not the player he was before but I believe he is playing great football since the start of the season for both LFC and England. However, I think BR should have moved Gerard in the middle when Coutinho was injured instead of Aspas.

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16 Sep 2013 21:03:25
Oh sorry my mistake.

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16 Sep 2013 21:01:40
Skrtel is on fire. Really pleased for him, the way he has conducted himself whilst out of the team and the way he has worked hard to prove himself and get back into the team is that of a true professional.

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16 Sep 2013 21:01:29
dont get carried away. attack looks great but I stil think were missing one player in attack and I wouldn't say its luis suarez. he's demanding of the ball everything breaks up he tries superstar things. quality player in the right type of team. defence wel good options sakho looks very dodgy npt good for 18m when toure free transfer albeit it seems more of a first game thing trying to impress to much.

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16 Sep 2013 21:01:16
Agger is not playing because he's INJURED. Stop slating BR he got forced to change it in the last day or two.

Btw good half! Not going to slate jonjo he's a good lad and shown us a lot of respect. Although ain't going to lie I'm happy lol

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16 Sep 2013 20:58:24
Sakho playing like a Sakho spuds!

Sorry couldn't help myself. Hopefully the future expression will be Sakho piles into the defender like a Sakho spuds but for now he looks so nervous.

On the plus side Shelvey still thinks he plays for Liverpool.

Onto the second half. Another Sturridge goal please.

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16 Sep 2013 21:59:43
Jonjo MOTM both ways Aspas looks to be getting worse every match.

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16 Sep 2013 20:51:29
Good first half but we're not getting tight enough to some of their forwards. Moses looks very good for a guy that hasn't played much football. Been a bit disappointed with Coutinho so far and I think Wisdom is just not a full back. Shows how good Johnson is.

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16 Sep 2013 20:50:36
Not sure when the FA changed the rules to allow a player to play for two teams in one game but good work Jonjo. - one goal and two assists and its only half-time

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16 Sep 2013 20:48:20
Sombody needs to tell Jonjo he plays for Swansea not Liverpool anymore. Poor guy must be so confused out there.

Get 1 more boys and I think it will be game over for the swans this eve.

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16 Sep 2013 20:43:42
Anybody still wondering why we sold JonJonJo?

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16 Sep 2013 20:41:37
Our midfield aren't pressing enough, they've way too much time on the ball near our area.

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16 Sep 2013 20:37:58
Wow Wisdom really is poor isn't he? {Ed001's Note - no.}

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Ed 001 if you think that was a good performance then you instantly lose credibility. {Ed001's Note - could you tell me what was wrong with it? He was not at fault there, it was the centre halves who were all over the place. Now grow up and stop being a smart arse and try supporting a young lad playing out of position for the team so knobs like you can get on his back and bitch at him. Pathetic, no wonder so few managers give kids a chance with the likes of you around whining at them.}

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16 Sep 2013 20:18:28
Jonjo Shelvey, so good he's got more assists for Liverpool this season than Steven Gerrard. ;)

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He sure loves the club! a lot!

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Always trying to fake a Gerrard but without enough skill and with no discipline.

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16 Sep 2013 20:15:36
Cant understand why BR wouldn't play Agger, the guy is our smartest defender so why make him sit in an away game? 5 minutes without him we concede a goal, thanks to sturridge though. Hope we turn this around.

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Agger is injured

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Injured

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16 Sep 2013 20:08:10
3 minutes in you see the best and the worst of jonjo lol hopefully we can get the win now

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16 Sep 2013 19:55:27
"Nobody wants to grow up and be a Gary Neville" - what a legend lol

Looking forward to seeing Sakho in action tonight

Another 1-0 will do for me

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What was the context for this? sounds brilliant

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Yeah that was brill lol! Good ol Carra

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16 Sep 2013 19:54:22
Most interesting thing I noticed about the squad is that Joe Allen not even on he subs bench. Assuming he is not injured then I am pleased BR is picking team on merit.

Also pleased he picked Skrtel based on previous performance. It's sending the right message to squad. Work hard get opportunity. Perform well and maintain place.

Come on reds!

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16 Sep 2013 19:53:47
Carrager quote - "no one grows up to be a gary neville" live on ssn. Class & quality. Haven't laughed that long in a while - come on the reds!

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16 Sep 2013 19:46:14
I was hoping to see Sakho and Toure play together tonight. Think they would make an awesome partnership.

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16 Sep 2013 19:23:24
Come on Liverpool! Top of the league tonight boys! Anyone going to the game don't get on there backs. Wisdom sakho Moses need your support if they mess up encourage them! 3 points in the bag! Come on!

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16 Sep 2013 19:10:19
What is wrong with agger?

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No idea, thought the same though when I saw the team sheet. On the bright side, we will get a look at Sakho before I thought we would.

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Knock in training

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Carra priceless on MNF: 'nobody wants to be a Gary Neville'

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16 Sep 2013 18:39:53
Fancy Aspas and Gerrard to score tonight in a 2-0 win.

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Aspas on the bench tonight

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16 Sep 2013 19:10:19
What is wrong with agger?

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16 Sep 2013 19:08:24
No agger? No toure? Hmm going from Johnson toure agger to wisdom skrtle sakho is very risky this will be interesting match now! {Ed001's Note - Agger is injured.}

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16 Sep 2013 19:07:53
Sakho and Moses start - aspas on the bench and agger not included at all? Wisdom at right back. Come on reds tonight

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16 Sep 2013 19:03:50
brendan is ballsy ill give him that

dropping agger for sahko
and startng moses

not afriad to wring the changes

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I was certainly wrong sakho straight in ill admit I was miles out sorry guys

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I was certainly wrong sakho straight in ill admit I was miles out sorry guys

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Agger is out with a knock mate. It's on lfc website

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16 Sep 2013 19:00:19
2-0 away wn tnight

id have been happy with a draw this time last week but the vibe is good around the club . no reason why we cat win it

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16 Sep 2013 18:27:56
It must be hard playing on a monday night knowing the rest of the league is watching closely.

that in mind I still think were up for tonight and the we've got every chance to make it 4 in a row.

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Yeah. It won't be hard playing on Monday night if the players were professionals. Seeing that we haven't secured promotion to the professional league, the players must be very terrified!

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Yeah. It won't be hard playing on Monday night if the players were professionals. Seeing that we haven't secured promotion to the professional league, the players must be very terrified!

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Is it everyone on this sites first instinct to put everyone else down. lighten up.

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16 Sep 2013 18:07:27
Hope we go for it tonight
really looking forward to the game
hope its a good one.
Hendo anytime

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16 Sep 2013 17:50:39
Come on the Reds! Big game tonight and a chance to go 3 points clear.

Will be a tough game but I fancy the Reds to keep showing the right mentality and get the three points.

Enjoy the game all!

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16 Sep 2013 17:35:15
Hey all,

just wanna say come on the Reds tonight against Swansea! Will no doubt be a difficult game but I am so pumped up for it as I am more than ever when it comes to Liverpool games nowadays!

Good luck to Liverpool, and also good luck Jonjo Shelvey against his former team :)

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16 Sep 2013 13:50:26
Hello #1 & 2 hope all is well? not been around much lately due to a busy schedule! Fingers crossed for this evening, although I believe its ours! 3-1! Sturridge 2 Aspas 1

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I think Sturridge will score 1st and 3-0 Sturridge 2 or more 9/1 8). All is well ttus lad #Down under

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16 Sep 2013 13:22:18
I have actually been so excited for this game! Can you imagine another win? The whole of Liverpool would be ecstatic! Just read a review it would be a minor miracle if we got top 4 which annoyed me. Watch all the top 6 teams they have a bit more depth but then again we have no extra games to worry about.

We need to win this and were 3 points ahead! I think a loss would bring us all back to earth lol

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I settle for a draw, i'm not going to get carried away just yet.

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Potentially a make or break,
If we win we will have the confidence boost.

If we loose, the motivation will lessen and the belief in the group will decrease.

I don't like to say MUST win, because to me every game is a must win. But the 3 points could be crucial to our campaign.

Whatever the result I will still be supportive and will not be on here after the match being negative and fickle.

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There are going to be many ups and downs this season, it is how the team responds that will determine the success of our season . Fingers crossed we win, another 1-0 will suit me fine .

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First match back after an International break and that worries me a little, but only a little mind!

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4 games in and you're saying its "make or break"
Unbelievable

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Chris,
How is it unbelievable?
I think that it is make or break in terms of competing for the title.
However Win Loose or Draw I will still support.
Im not being negative, but I think the motivation from a win tonight could see us strive and make an unexpected title challenge.
Optimistic maybe, but i'm allowed to be as it is a rumours site.
Try and cheer up a bit mate, you depress me sometimes you only ever comment in a negative way

Wise Up

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Gotta agree with LTP on this one last season was very much start stop with a few good wins then we would lose to a lesser side. A win today is great momentum not even to title challenge yet but to keep ahead and give us some breathing space.

Not only that but every other top 5 team underestimating will be like . Ang on what's going on

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I only ever comment in a negative way?
Surely your post is negative, to suggest tonight's game was "make or break".
So what's your opinion now that we've dropped 2 points?
Is our season now broken?
Such nonsense

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16 Sep 2013 12:53:37
Had a dream that we win 2-0 tonight Henderson Scores.
Might go to William hill after work for a cheeky punt.

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Maybe not the best idea as there are rumours that Henderson and Agger have picked up knocks and are foubts for this game, while Toure is apparently out.

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Henderson is starting 100%

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16 Sep 2013 11:32:56
Don't know about you guys but to me Christian Eriksen looks better than what I predicted, fast and insanely good ball control. going to help Spurs alot, should have tried to get him. Anyhow. ED 001 how's Suso coming along at Almeria? and Robinson (overlooking the red card on the weekend now)? {Ed001's Note - he does look fast, which is odd, because every time I saw him in the past, he looked to lack a bit in pace. Maybe he just wasn't trying so hard before? Whereas now he is looking to make an impression. I wouldn't judge the rest of his play though, it is easy to look good against a side that set back and let you play. Though his ability on the ball has never really been in question, it just might not be as easy to adapt to the Prem as this, when he plays against the more organised sides. Suso has been excellent for Almeria, by all accounts. I have yet to read one report that didn't rate him highly.}

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I agree,
He looks very good on the pall and has a good eye for a pass.
I think our midfield is strong enough though and really think we have a good team.
Optimistic about a top 4 finish.

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16 Sep 2013 12:34:18
Eriksen is a very good player technically. I did a review on him during the summer, and when you put all his talents together in a single article, it really is impressive. I think anybody who doubts he'll be a good signing is foolish to say the least. If you look at the current crop of young players at every team in the Premiership, it's fair to say that Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham and Chelsea are miles ahead of the two Manchester clubs, and teams like Everton, Southampton and Aston Villa will stuggle to hold on to their top talents, as history has proved (Bale, Walcott, Rooney, Fellani, Young, Milner etc).

Rather than gawk at the potential Eriksen has though, why not take some time out to appreciate our own little playmaker, Coutinho (who in my mind is the better player anyway).

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I watched the eredivise (dutch league) at lot and ericksen was fabulous.
also he was fabulous against machester city in the champions league. both rounds. he is a very good player by all accounts. and I was gutted when he signed for tottenham instead, similarly when holtby went to them.
ericksen has immense ability and he reads the game very well in the final third. he would definitely have been a great addition to LFC.
however as most eds said, his selling himself to all clubs in the window, didn't help our or his cause.
he might have a few good games with tottenham, but imho tottenham is hardly a club he actually wanted to join. In about 5 years from now, all players tottenham have signed would be somewhere else.
but on a meaner note loosing out on an affordable ericksen can be considered the only miss this season.
( I don't think we lost out on HM (we did bid) or Willian),
should have been a player we should have wrapped up along with aspas and alberto in early stages of the summer window.

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Again another wonderful review adam, I really enjoy your blogs also. I completely agree regarding coutinho, I personally believe that 2 aspects coutinho has over Erikson except age are his ability to shrug off players with his strength and quick feet and the pure directness his game dictates the space that opens up for him. However both players have a fabulous ability to pick a pass and find space.

However I will say erikson has had a certain consistancy since he was 18, unlike coutinho who in his teens had flashes or brilliance.

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Totally agree Ben! Only thing I would throw into that is that erikson has a continuous football where as Coutinho sat on the bench and played bit part roles! When he's played 2 or 3 seasons back to back watch how good Coutinho will be!

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16 Sep 2013 10:08:08
Now that we have the registration system on his site things have improved greatly. Can I suggest another improvement that may stop some of the persons, each registered name tag should have the badge of the team that person supports.
When someone then posts on a rival teams page it is clear very quickly if they are just causing trouble or if it is a genuine supporter having a go at his own team. {Ed002's Note - Thanks, I understand that there are plans for that to happen but I would guard against it back-firing in terms of banter. Sadly, many of the supporters of certain teams are simply unable to distinguish between banter and abuse.}

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Great Idea

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I think it would be a huge loss not being able to go onto other sites and have some banter. we get plenty of people on our site and it makes for a more diverse view on all issues. I love going to other sites for some friendly banter (sometimes a bit stronger than banter, but never abuse) I love coming to this page as you guys always have good banter I also go on arsenals page (im a spurs supporter) and have some good banter on there as well. we have similar teams and are fighting for the same, to try and break the big four up. if we don't do it I hope you guys do, either way things look to be on the up for both clubs with some good signings this summer (and keeping your star player) so good luck and hopefully speak again

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16 Sep 2013 18:58:52
thats a nice post dave at least you don't call us loserpool on r own site and go on about the signing of ericksen that br should have made but didn't even though br knows he has better players coming through suso, ibe, sterling will be good enough for left wing and let countinho play central role imo.

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16 Sep 2013 08:55:37
I'm a big fan of wisdoms but I don't think he should start at right back tonight he needs a loan IMO, still too soon for Kelly? I would like Toure to cover just for this game, am I wrong? Hope Sturridge is fit if not I'd expect Aspas up top with Moses out wide, going to be a tough game tonight still think we should win though.

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16 Sep 2013 10:46:29
I wouldn't use a square peg to try and fill in a round hole,
The Swans will move us about, I think in the absence of Johnno, I'd go Kelly, being as he is more experienced than Wisdom and in my opinion a better player.

I guess he might not be fit, but he was fit enough for the bench against United,

Having said that, I think Wisdom will start.

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How good is our defence though?
Well happy.
The strongest it has been in years.

fingers crossed for Sakho and IIORI

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Imo wisdom will be fine, he is more match fit than kelly.
i prefer a flat back three against swansea, but have recieved a lot of words(not good) for suggesting that

but wisdom is more likely tonite.

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16 Sep 2013 08:00:35
Good morning to all you Eds and Reds :) My fiancé gave me a trip to finally see my beloved LFC for my 30th birthday and we are going to the Southampton game this weekend. I have only seen Liverpool play in Norway in a friendly before since I am norwegian, and am looking forward to this very much of course.

I was hoping for tips on other things to do while in Liverpool, we'll be there from wednesday to monday. Thanks in advance :)

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Go for a swim in the Mersey!

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Liverpool one for a shop.
Go upstairs for a nandos and then treat youself to a make your own milkshake.
Awesome

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16 Sep 2013 12:22:50
Tbh mate, there's not loads to do. Might be worth trying to get a stadium tour whilst you're there. The whole place is teeming with history and you can't beat standing next to the trophy Gerrard lifted in Istanbul. It really shows just how much the stadium was crafted in Shankleys image as well. Ignoring the statue even, the walls bleed his blood if you cut them. Everything from the 'This is Anfield' sign, to the floors in the changing rooms. The man really left his mark on the club. That aside though there isn't much. Shoppnig is decent if your other half is interested. I think the Cathedral is an architectual master piece, but not everybody likes that sort of thing. A few of my mates visited the Liverpool Watersports Centre whilst they were up there and said it was brilliant, so maybe swimming in the Mersey isn't too bad a suggestion after all! Have a good time mate ;)

YNWAdam

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If you're looking for a bite to eat outside the stadium then Chips & Gravy from Fung Lok takeaway is hard to beat. Yummy.

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Nah Jeffinho, half and half chips and rice, large sausage and curry sauce from Jia Lun.

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The tate Liverpool is worth a look.

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Welcome our Norwegian friend!
Hope you have a great time on your visit to our fine city! There is so much to do in Liverpool - go to www.visitLiverpool.com for lots of ideas/price lists/booking info.
My 3 favourites:
1. Stadium tour and meal in the Boot Room
2. Another Place - Anthony Gormley statues on Crosby beach (aka Everton defence!)
3. St Georges Hall
Hope you bring us some luck too!

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Or come to Skem and see our world famous roundabouts!

( don't do this, go out and see some bands and have a bevvy, lot's cheaper than Norway :-) )

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Or come to Skem and see our world famous roundabouts!

( don't do this, go out and see some bands and have a bevvy, lot's cheaper than Norway :-) )

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16 Sep 2013 01:27:32
If there are any Lucas doubters still unconvinced, try googling 'How much of Liverpool's renaissance is down to Lucas'.
His should be the first name on the team-sheet each week.

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He will retire a great legend of the club. The mind boggles to why some people think he should be replaced. He stops opposition attacks and calmly and often successfully feeds the teams creative and attacking talents.
About time the Kop gave him a song! What about Lucas Levia to the tune of hallelujah by Leonard Cohen?

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16 Sep 2013 10:52:56
I think it always is mate.
Top player, literally my favourite current player.

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16 Sep 2013 14:19:54
He has a song mate. his name is Lucas, its Lucas, its Lucas. his second name is levia, its levia, its levia. and that that is why we like him we like him we him, infact we f##kin love him we love him we love home. owoooo. owoooo

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