Liverpool Banter Archive July 17 2014

 

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17 Jul 2014 23:27:40
Brendon Rodgers:

"The signings we have made have no relation to Luis going, absolutely - these were players that were always earmarked to come in, " Rodgers confirmed.

"We felt last year we just never had the depth and we are in the Champions League this year so we have to ensure we have as strong a squad as possible.

"But now we certainly won't spend just for the sake of spending. It has to be the sort of player who is going to improve us."

source: Liverpool echo

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17 Jul 2014 23:17:34
Any info on lfc if there is any interest in Remy. Think he would be a great addition myself.

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17 Jul 2014 23:14:42
Liverpool weighing up moves for United targets Arturo Vidal.

Brendan Rodgers could get one over on Liverpool's biggest rivals Manchester United by swooping for Juventus midfielder Arturo Vidal.

Rodgers said: 'We are working hard behind the scenes to find players, but it will not be a direct replacement [for Suarez].

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17 Jul 2014 22:55:42
Rumours we want a big signing like vidal pogba and reus on radar (daily mirror) any truth

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The daily Mirror link us with 20 different players per day. Take no notice.

Red Rum

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More chance of you's winning the league lol

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May as well order my "Reus" shirt now then Ulster, cheers for the tip!

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That's rich coming from an Arsenal fan. A team who can, no matter how promising the situation, still manage to fluff their lines and not win the league.

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Haha Arsenl fans make me laugh every year is their year.

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I think Arsenal fans need to consider the strength of their fait and religion as every Easter they manage the crucifixion fine but have never yet managed the resurrection.!

At least UG proves that not ever gooner is like DG!

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17 Jul 2014 22:53:33
Hi ED hope all is well with you and the family . Once again I would like to thank you for doing such a great job I know it must be hard mate.

I just have one question for are we trying to sign this french striker called Alexandre Lacazette?

Thanks Ed

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{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine.}

17 Jul 2014 22:28:53
Hi Eds

First post on a great site. Just wondering if the £40m spent on Lambert Lallana and Can buys was spending in advance of the Suarez deal or has Rodgers got the full £75m to spend on additional players?

Who are our current targets for LB, CB and CF. How true are Bertrand, Lovren and Bony rumours?

Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - We don't discuss money. Liverpool also purchased another player.}

17 Jul 2014 21:08:00
One more question eds!

Southampton is apparently closing in on Steven Caulker according to some reports, do you reckon that might speed things up for us with Lovren?

Cheers, Scouserseb

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{Ed002's Note - I wouldn't say that.}

17 Jul 2014 22:46:35
Caulker is on his way to QPR

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17 Jul 2014 20:41:43
G.Sigsurrdson gone to palace ha wonder if he thinks spurs was the better move now :D

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You make your choices in life, now he has to live with that!

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Should be a good signing for Crystal Palace

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I've always like gylfi at spurs, I think they should have kept him, always seemed to pop up with goals!

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17 Jul 2014 20:30:13
Hey eds!

Couldn't find any recent answers to this question, but is there any truth in us trying to buy Micah Richards?

Cheers, Scouserseb

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{Ed002's Note - I know nothing of it.}

17 Jul 2014 20:26:45
Eds, is they're any interest in Seydou Doumbia? Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - Not from Liverpool.}

17 Jul 2014 20:05:05
Hi edds, what will happen to Adorjan and Coady, they looked promising but now I think they'll move on; who are interested in them? we will release them or sell them? Good luck to them;here or elsewhere.

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I watched the Shamrock rovers and last nights game - tbf I thought Coady did OK in both; maybe the club will keep him if they sell Lucas - not sure just a thought.

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Adorjan was decent too but makes clumsy tackles, his passing is good though similar player to Alberto imo.

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17 Jul 2014 19:35:10
What's with all the negativity? Yes we lost suarez but we are building a team! It's a team game it's not about individuals. Rodgers clearly has a plan and we need to get behind him with whoever he signs. We lost a big player in Suarez who you cannot replace as he is one of a few who are truly world class but we can strengthen other areas as in left back and centre back. remember we conceded over 50+ goals last season and yes we scored over 100 but we still had one of the worst defences in the league. We have already strengthened with Lallana and Markovic and Even Lambert who are all players who are hungry and want to better themselves and want to play for Liverpool FC and are better options than what we had last year. So try and stay positive and get behind Brendan! In Brendan the trust you'll never walk alone!

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Well the problem is BR shows no urgency in signing defeders. He should bring at least 2-3 top class defenders. He went for Louvern and Moreno but both got stuck because of what seem to be 2-3 million (yes not my money I know but given to the overall price and the fact we got 75 M for Suzrez it is a small money). If feels very much life Arsen Wenger of previous seasons, anxious not to overpay while all the other big teams spend lots and lots of money. This is a crucial season as at least we can attract good palyers by playing CL and we have the Suarez money. If we are out of the PL next summer (and I think this is a very realistic possibility with how both Arsenal and Man u and Chelsea strengthened themselves and Suarez leaving) it will be much harder to bring big names who can make the difference.

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18 Jul 2014 08:10:46
As you say we have tried to sign 2 promising defs so not sure how that is a lack of urgency. We were actually around 5-7mil off lovrens asking price which is quite a bit. If you get bent over like that 4 times in a window it is an extra 20mil.

Moreno was less the asking price and more the payment terms and now we know why Chelsea pulled out I'm less keen tbh. Perhaps Rodgers is less keen on lovren given his recent public displays of disrespect and unprofessionalism

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How can you say he shows no urgency in bringing in defenders!?! The first names he was linked to even before the world cup were Lovren and Moreno?!?!


Just because the forward deals have gone through more smoothly can't be used to suggest that he doesn't prioritise defensive reinforcements, it just means they went through earlier! We're still in the close season, the world cup has only just finished, so give the guy a chance!

We also have young defenders returning from loan spells - Wisdom, Ilori, Coates, Robinson - who are on the tour so BR has a chance to see if they can step up - very sensible to see the development of what we already have rather than throwing out the baby with the bathwater. We also have young prospects who are rated highly by other posters on here who see them in the flesh in reserve or youth games, like Smith and McLaughlin.

So, in response to your last comment, if you want big names, go follow a team that buys them, not that makes them.

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Fanobip we've spent 60 plus million in reported transfer fees(plus angent fees, taxes etc etc). What more do you want!? If you think Brendan and everyone else at the club doesn't know and isn't actively trying to sign a defender or 2 then you must be daft.

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17 Jul 2014 19:14:17
I think it's amazing that our great club is only considering an extra 15'000 seats for the rebuild and not significantly more.
I no longer have a season ticket due to work commitments and family, but considering that I tried to get a ticket this morning for 'any' home game for the first bunch of games and they was completely sold out in minutes tells me the demand for them is astronomical. Not joking here,, Liverpool Fc would sell out a 80'000 stadium week in week out. First 10 games sold out in 1 morning is amazing.
Brendan Rodgers Liverpool were on our way to glory

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool are not in a position to afford the additional infrastructure costs which they become liable for over 60,000 seats.}

Ed just out of curiosity do you know if fsg have a long term plan/goal they are trying to reach where they could improve the infrastructure to expand further? Sorry I don't think I phrased that the best but hoping you understand!

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{Ed002's Note - I think it very, very unlikely - the cost would be astronomical.}

Well I tried to buy tickets today and yesterday and have been able to for, last three seasons but today was an absolute joke, waited n hour on web n then they had all gone :-( 150,000 new seats needed not 15,000

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So basically in the future Liverpool would need to see the club sold in order to develop past this stage? Or would 10 years of dominating Europe do the trick ;)

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{Ed002's Note - And how would that help?}

18 Jul 2014 10:10:59
I guess Shane is implying that if money is the problem, then a sale to an oligarch or a Sheik, or years of European dominance which would help to improve our profits (or get us into profit even!) may help us raise the money required to improve the infrastructure enough to support >60k seats.

I'm guessing from the Ed's response that there are other factors involved too, that we may not know about!

From the reports I have read, it would be good to see the effect that this expansion has on our income before considering whether the extra astronomical investment, as mentioned by Ed002, would be worth it to gain maybe a further 15k seats

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{Ed002's Note - The issues are well known, understood and in the public domain. We have been through it before and there is no point in doing it again. Liverpool gets approximately £1k income per seat per annum. A lot less that I suspect many of fans realise. Even with a big hike in ticket prices, the match day revenue is not a great winner financially for the club. Additional seats, mean additional costs - staff, lighting, cleaning, stewards, police ...}

Thanks for the reply Ed.

Could you point me towards where I could find out more about this stuff? Not for posting, just out of interest! Would be fascinating to see income broken down to such a level and compared across teams - do Norwich, for example, get better refreshment sales per head due to Delia (lol) etc etc.

Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - Forbes would likely be a good starting point.}

17 Jul 2014 19:09:41
Whats happening with Remy as Arsenal were nailed on to get him and even agreed a fee but its now collapsed is anybody else interested in him or do you expect the deal to go through eds?

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Wage demand was more than the gooners wanted to pay .thats. What I heard .but who knows

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17 Jul 2014 19:06:57
To the people clamouring for the signing of Balotelli, I believe the issue boils down to this:

BR will be predominately playing with one man upfront, allowing fast and skilful midfielders to support from all angles.

As a player I feel Balotelli probably edges Sturridge for all round ability.

However Sturridge is by far the better no.9 and will convert more chances into goals than Balotelli would.

Therefore Balotelli would, more often than not be on the bench.

How would he react to that and what impact would it have on the rest of the squad?

Togetherness will be a huge factor this season so I would steer clear of signing Balotelli.

Ynwa

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He is not a good player no mental strengh

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We just got rid on 1 problem child, why get another?

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17 Jul 2014 20:41:48
Same reason parents do when dealing with their kids Noshbag - something to talk about when there is nothing good on TV

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17 Jul 2014 19:03:03
Ed's simple question, who do you think is likely to sign in your OPINION before the transfer windows, any bit of information you may have. So instead of us asking for specific players (most of the time repeatedly), you can just give a quick list of players.
Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - I have said where I know of interest.}

17 Jul 2014 18:46:29
Hi Ed's ssn are reporting West Ham have made a £4m bid for LB Emanuel Insúa, brother of our old boy Emiliano. They suggest Liverpool are interested in him also.

Any truth to this or just lazy journalism linking us to the brother of an ex player?

Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - WHU have bid. Why do people use the term "lazy journalism"? I would think you know nothing of the subject.}

I think most people confuse this concept with Churnalism ED?

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17 Jul 2014 18:03:43
Ed002, I wonder if you would be kind enough to shed some light on why certain players have been included in the squad for the US tour, despite there being a commonly-held view that they are on their way out of the club?

In the case of Reina, for example, there even seems to be a personal issue with BR, and some strong words were said by both men not long after he began his loan spell.

Is it just a commercial tactic, in that their exclusion from the squad would be a clear signal that would weaken LFCs hand in negotiating their transfer to another club?

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{Ed002's Note - Anyone who is subject to serious interest or close to leaving will be left behind. There are no tactics or secret messages.}

17 Jul 2014 17:51:05
Eds, how come my last 2 posts haven't been put up? They're not on the Liverpool banter site either?

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{Ed002's Note - No idea.}

17 Jul 2014 17:42:44
I remember reading, about a year ago, one of the eds saying that Ibe is better than Sterling, can not for the life of me remember which one of you's said it, Ed001 perhaps? But anyway, if that is the case, seen as he is a year younger, do you see him 'doing a Sterling' this year and being a regular starter next season? Thanks in advance

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{Ed002's Note - I would doubt he will be a regular starter.}

17 Jul 2014 20:44:54
Bear in mind Sterling was put it because we essentially had no option and burnt out 2/3rds of the season in. It's only really been the second half of this season where we've got a real sense of what he can do game in, game out. Ibe has time, let him grow

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It is highly doubtful but a couple of injuries(touch wood) and a good run in the cups and he'll be in for sure.

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17 Jul 2014 17:42:12
As I spend a lot of time on this site, I was sitting and wondering how much of all of this is simply pure speculation and deliberate misinformation, from all sides concerned. And how much true information is really known to very few people (such as the Eds here - Ed001 & Ed002 in particular). The best example is (my imagined) sequence of events with the now departed Luis Suarez over the last season:

1) Luis comes back from his ban in 2013 and says "All of you in England hate me. I want to leave".
2) FSG replies "Okay Luis, you can go. But only in the summer. First you sign a long term contract with X amount as the release clause and we'll give you a raise. You score a hell of a lot of goals. And you win Player of the Year. And you try your best to help us get in the top 4".
3) Luis says " Okay, that's a done deal".
4) So Luis starts scoring goals and starts looking happy. (Ed002 says his reps are talking to teams, when asked here).
5) By December Luis has scored more goals, LFC is top of the League for a short while, and he still looks happy.
6) By March-April, Luis has scored a crazy amount of goals and looks really happy. He says he is not going anywhere. (Ed002 says his reps are talking to teams, when asked here).
7) Rodgers says he is very happy with Luis, he's talked with Luis and is sure Luis will stay. (You know what Ed002 said. ).
8) LFC effectively lose the title by drawing with Crystal Palace. Luis is seen by all, crying inconsolably, after the game.
8) Luis leaves for the World Cup and tells his team mates that he will see them next year (as reported in the press). (Ed002 says his reps are talking to teams, when asked here).
9) FSG contacts Luis and says "Luis, you've had a fantastic year. But we think you are worth more than Bale and we want you to think about staying for another year."

The rest is history. Again, most of this is my imagination. Just indulging in some speculation of my own. (I'm now wondering how many of have noticed that Ed002 has mentioned Real Madrid's interest in Sterling at least 4 times in the past few months and there are still no outraged panic posts on here about it. Real Madrid is a team that usually always gets the players it wants)

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Whilst I agree with your point on Raheem with RM, note that RM likes a sort of finished article player. they will follow his development and if he continues to be good until 24/25, expect a bid. my opinion anyway. they have the money.

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I would hold out for £50 million for sterling (at this age and form).

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The difference with sterling is he is English and:
a) real Madrid doesn't have as much appeal to a Liverpool-supporting English person like sterling
b) foreign teams tend not to sign English players as we are notoriously crap at learning languages and embracing culture so they invariably flop.
so I can't see sterling going to real Madrid, certainly no time soon

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17 Jul 2014 17:07:29
Eds fellow reds, don't know about anyone else, but I'm happy to see reina in the squad for USA tour .hopefully he will stay and then they ( the keepers ) can keep pressure on each other .

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If Reina stays than Mignolet will be replaced as Reina is far better than Mignolet in my eyes.

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{Ed002's Note - The club don't want Reina.}

17 Jul 2014 20:40:11
Ed002 .is that because of ability or money

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{Ed002's Note - He was replaced last year by Mignolet.}

17 Jul 2014 20:46:39
And Reina hasn't been more than a decent keeper for 3 years now. I think when people think of Reina, they still think of 2010 Reina

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Reina, his butter fingers and apalling attitude can politely go. Great servant but we must slowly move these players on

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17 Jul 2014 16:53:38
Hi long time no see.

My understanding if that we have all but signed Micah Richards.

I personally think he is/could be a quality addition.

What's everyone's thoughts?.

I also believe Ben Davies is our top priority at the moment, we have left it late - Moreno was our top target and there was a belief in the ranks that we would eventually get him.

Bony is 100% a option we are exploring - he might prove to be just to expensive though.

Thanks.

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If Richards cleans up his act than he will be a good addition as he is versatile, English and will be cheap so hope you are right.

Id rather either sign Moreno or keep what we already have as if we sign Davies than that will jeopardize Brad Smith who is only a year younger and very talented.

Bony is a good player but i'm pretty sure we will play 1 striker next season so unless Borini is sold than I don't see us bringing in a high profile striker.

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17 Jul 2014 23:47:21
Why get micha richards when we have our own? Andre wisdom anybody?

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17 Jul 2014 16:41:01
What's the odds we get Barcelona in our group stage in champions league?

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About 1/8 I think

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We can beat them and anyone on our day so i'm not really too fussed to be honest mate.

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17 Jul 2014 19:32:58
We will do pot 3, in pot 1 there are 2 english clubs (chelsea and arsena, if can access to group stage), so we have a probability of 1/3 to be within barcelona group; but there will be other possible tough opponents in pot 1: Real Madrid,Bayern; Benfica, Atletico, Porto and I guess Schalke. In pot 2: Dortmund, PSG, Juventus, Napoli, and some others like Shaktar o Zenit, or Basel. Finally in pot 4 Roma and Mónaco. So there ir a good probability we get into a very very tough group in this year's CL.

I think that's why many fans are so nervous with thia year's transfer window, but I think that even in a tough group we will pass through to knock-out stages; I believe in BR and our current squad; hope we can add 1 or 2 more quality players, but I really hope Agger and Lucas stay, both are good enough and have red's blood.

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17 Jul 2014 19:42:22
Sorry the odds we 1/6, not 1/3; 1/7 if Asenal misses group stages

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Bring em on

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17 Jul 2014 15:51:15
Eds and/ or fellow reds, we seem to be really busting a gut to get Moreno from Sevilla, is he really that good of a fullback. I don't watch Spanish soccer so have no idea of his strengths ( or weaknesses if he has any, lol).

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Lad I remember Ed001 a couple of times giving his judgement on him. You could try and search it but I remember him saying that Moreno is very good technically but isn't the best defensively. Probably better to search it.

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17 Jul 2014 16:53:49
Go on Youtube.

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17 Jul 2014 17:21:02
lol you said soccer. oh well, it made me chuckle reading it

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17 Jul 2014 17:31:56
He is better than Ben Davies and Ryan Bertrand. Let's put it that way

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17 Jul 2014 17:36:45
He is very quick and aggressive. Loves going forward and naturally leaves spaces behind him due to that. His tackling is not the best but at 21, it can be improved. He likes taking a long shot and has scored from long range on more than one occasion. he has an uncompromising style of play which can be very good in some situations and very poor in others.

IMO, he is similar to our very own Brad Smith, though Smith is quicker. The difference is that Moreno has had 2 years of regular football which Smith hasn't.

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From the limited amount I have seen, youtube and that Revisita programme on Sly Sports he looks like he has huge potential. He is athletic, strong, fast as a cheetah and technically decent.

He lacks positional sense, defence ability and his attacking play, whilst adventurous, seems to lack direction, he runs down blind alleys a bit (Johnson anyone?)

That being said if Brendo has seen something in him then I would love him.

None of the younger players that Brendo has bought have flopped (some might argue Borini but I wouldn't call him a flop yet).

Sturridge and Coutinho were both considered talented but flawed when they arrived and they have both excelled. Teixeira and Alberto look like they could both be decent, Yesil has been injured and Ilori went out on loan.

Brendo knows what he's doing with younger players and if he thinks this kid is worth it (and the scouts agree) then i'll be glad to call him a Liverpool player.

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I really do hope we sign him but reports are now saying Atletico Madrid are in talks with him, I just hope Ayre hurries up and gets the deal sealed as he is defiantly an improvement on what we already have.

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17 Jul 2014 15:36:17
Just seen the squad for the preseason tour of America. Ed001 any idea why Rossiter wasnt included? Also anyone know anything ahout Adam Phillips who's been included?

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{Ed002's Note - It'll be a little while before Ed001 is around.}

He might just not yet be seen as ready. I don't think that the first team places are as open for the academy lads this season compared to the last 2. There are other players who have to prove their worth in preseason as this is a make or break year for them here, whereas Rossiter has still got time on his side.

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17 Jul 2014 17:38:36
Somewhat of a surprise that Philips has been included as he was not a regular for the U-18's last season. He is well thought if but there are a number of youngsters who are perhaps more ready for the tour than Philips.

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I was thinking the same about McGlaughlan

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Rossiter is no where near ready. He's ahead of where he should be football wise. But put him up against some of the bigger boys in the centre of the midfield when he's not that developed physically will kill him

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17 Jul 2014 15:28:30
Hello mates!
Kudos to the Eds

I just read an article linking us with Alexandre Lacazette who IMO is not good enough. He scored a handful of goals last season many thanks to the useless defending the ligue one is known for bar PSG and below par goalkeeping. He doesn't possess the right ability as of now to make the cut in Liverpool. Am not going to ask if our links with him are geniune.

Antoine Griezmann: This one player I know will do well if he comes. Fast, skillful and very very technical. Can score goals too. He's a lot like Reus but cheaper and less experienced. I just think he is worth the 20mill pound price tag

Bony: Fantastic striker, EPL proven, would be a good buy if we had more than enough fund to spend, but with the limited cash, I think we should just let play one more season at swans

Reus: Too expensive! Fantastic player, fast and very technical
Champions league proven and can play a variety of positions. I don't think LFC can pull this off though

Moreno: this is one transfer I bet will happen. Good player no doubt, but I just hope he performs because the pressure will be on him when he comes as a result of the fee and the complications in transfer

Lovren: Another adept signing am sure br will make
Lovely player to watch. Calm and collected


IMO we will only sign Moreno, Lovren and Griezmann
Probably a goalie if Reina leaves
Other signings will depend on outgoing transfers

Cheers!
YNWA

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{Ed002's Note - Reina was replaced last year.}

17 Jul 2014 15:55:22
Competition for Mignolet if Reina leaves

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17 Jul 2014 17:41:40
Brad Jones and Daniel Ward are the competition. Young Peter Fulton is very well thought of too and will be the regular for the U-21's if Ward goes on loan.

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No way we sign Moreno, Reus or Griezmann. I think they would all be great options, but financially they would push us into debt, and if for some reason we were to fall out of the CL early this season or not make it at all next season, we'd be hurting. Granted, if we signed all 3, I doubt we'd drop out of the top 4.

I've made it no secret on this site how much I value Bony and would love to see him at LFC, but I doubt the link. It was more likely we were inquiring about Davies when "talks" happened.

Lovren is the only person you list that I think has the willingness to make the move and would be worth the money/improve our team significantly. We have to pay over the value to get him, but I honestly feel our defense is sufficient if we make that move.

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17 Jul 2014 15:30:33
how good can Jordan Ibe be? Imagine him and Sterling on either side of Sturridge.

DEADLY!

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I can only imagine the pace would undo any defence. just need the magic behind. suso phil or joao come to mind.

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17 Jul 2014 14:38:44
Does anyone know the extent of ilori's injury. . would've liked to have seen him get a pre-season run and challenge as 4th CB

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17 Jul 2014 15:41:52
He's listed on the US tour. Hopefully get to prove himself

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It looked to me during the game that he pinged his hammy slighlty. If I'm right it shouldn't be too serious

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17 Jul 2014 14:35:01
Hi EDs
Are we interested in signing any players from Manchester City?
In the past we`ve been linked with Richards, Milner and Nastasic.

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{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}

17 Jul 2014 13:09:34
Ed002, great job as always. Besides Lovren, do you know of any centre backs that we currently hold interest in? Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - Not right now.}

Would you say, now that Dagger has commited, that we are likely to move Skrtel on?

Was it Galatasaray that hold interest in him?

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{Ed002's Note - They are interested but I am not aware of the club's plans for him right now.}

17 Jul 2014 13:33:52
Ok fellow Reds I haven't posted for a while so go easy. .thoughts on potential recruits still required to take up 1 place to be CHAMPIONS:

Left back - Moreno (apparently we've bid £18mil and they want £20mil. .not being funny but we don't want to be held to ransom but not like we don't have £75 mil to invest)
Centre Back - Lovren (again we've bid £20 mil apprently. they want £5 more again apparently)
Right Back - Micah Richards would be nice (although varying reports on his attitude. I'm sure Buck woudl sort him out)
Midfielder -?? Another attacking midfielder would be nice but not sure whom. . any suggestions?
Forward - Now this is the area we definately need to re-invest. nope we can't buy a world class striker but Cavani perhaps or another young talented player from somewhere. I really am struggling with an adequate name to buy up front). .

Anyway just my thoughts. .

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Why would we target a right back when we have a lot available? Apart from Johnson, there's Flanagan and Kelly.

I'd rather spend money else where than on RB. A GK, CB & A striker would be enough.

O'seunfunmi

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So the saints only wanted £5 more for lovren and we drop out? I'll pay for it then and get it done

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Have a feeling Moreno wants to stay in Spain and hopes for a move to RM or Barca

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Rage reds i'm happy to go halfs with you £2.50 each would that breach the third party ownership issues though a fiver would get us a toe nail at least might be better to leave a anonymous donation ay reception to get the deal done

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Did you watch the game yesterday? We don't need another attacking midfield type player. Ibe is better than what Sterling was this time last year. FACT

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Moreno, Lovren and Griezmann or Lacazette would be nice

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Ibe will be the better player. I've always maintained that thought and yesterday did nothing to change my opinion. Frightening really because Sterling is bloody good!

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17 Jul 2014 17:28:03
Sorry giblet. I would like to have the full ownership of that.

Btw sterling is better tactically while ibe is better physically and technically imo

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The tactical part of the game is hard to judge and that will certainly come with age. but sterling 2.0 as I call him is basically a new and improved on what was a top player to begin with!

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17 Jul 2014 13:31:47
I don't get it. All these rumours about strikers and wingers ONLY for Liverpool! Nothing (that I can remember) aside from Lovren, Moreno & Bertrand for defense. Either the English press believes only forwards make for saleable news worth printing or they believe Rodgers is going to put out a team of 6 strikers & wingers for the season.

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17 Jul 2014 15:27:52
Well nobody expected it when Sakho was signed. Maybe we'll see something similar.

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17 Jul 2014 17:23:46
Excellent prediction sir!

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17 Jul 2014 13:07:29
Radio 5 live did a special program on transfers last night. One of the experts was very clued up.

He said that Liverpool were doing well so far this summer because the sale of Suarez has allowed us to add the extra depth we desperately needed to cope with CL football.

If a transfer expert can see we're doing good business, why can't the fans accept it?

I get the impression a lot of you have allowed the media to influence you to the point you now believe that we were a one man team last season. Suarez had one absolutely incredible purple patch whilst Sturridge was out injured and then his form massively tailed off to the point where he was being outperformed by Gerrard, Sterling and Sturridge. That being said he was still averaging 1 in 2 whilst out of form. Also try to remember that he often went missing in games and made it as bad as playing with 10 men. I'm looking forward to playing more as a team next season than letting Suarez try the ridiculous all game. I'll mis his magic, but I don't see it hurting the overall efficiency of the team.

We have added players to make us stronger defensively, faster on the break, and to give us a match winning substitution towards the end of games. Without Suarez's guns blazing attitude we might not score as many in the first half of games like we did last season. However we should concede less and I expect to see a lot more goals scored in the second half with the quality we have coming from the bench.

Markovic and Can really excite me and will suprise a few people as will some of our academy graduates. Lambert and Lallana are safe options because they've played in the league, played in a similar style, want to play for us and both have a massive amount of quality (21 goals and 17 assists between them!). Now Moreno is going elsewhere I'd say Bertrand has to be odds on favourite (and hopefully people will start to give him a chance) and Lovren seems to be our primary defensive target who is also desperate to come here.

We are going places lads. So chin up, keep the faith and let's go again. Let's try and win this thing for Gerrard and the loyal fans!

(Cheers for all your hard work lately Ed002 and Ed008 in particular. You've had to reply to a lot of posts in Ed001's absence. One day people will start believing you Ed002. I don't know how many times you've got to be right before people give up trying to prove you wrong! Keep it up.)

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Well thought out, reasonable post that. Agree with it all, I think. Losing Suarez is a blow, he's a top player. But as a team we create a lot of chances. And like you say, even when he was off his form a little he hit 1 in 2, so what's stopping borini or Lambert making up those goals up considering we create so much.

Good post that.

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As soon as 'transfer expert' was mentioned. Need I say no more

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Yes, agree with Al. I consider myself one of the world's leading transfer experts.

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17 Jul 2014 14:27:11
Ken, what sort of transfer do you specialize in?

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My son considers himself a transfer expert he thinks markovic was too much money as he's only a silver on fifa not even a rare 1 either he said he's only ten made me laugh tho

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I've got some Hong Kong phooey transfers, going cheap
New to the EPL but look great!

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I don't even know what Al was trying to say. It made no sense. I'm not calling this guy a transfer expert, he is employed by others as a transfer expert. So don't shoot the messenger and I rather think if that is the only criticism you can find of my post, you're just being pedantic. Cheers big E.

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Yet you are the one who waxed lyrical about him being clued in when really you just agree with what he said.

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Ems you need to tell me a game where suarez was so bad it was like playing with 10 men

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17 Jul 2014 17:39:33
What makes him a transfer expert? A degree? What are his credentials? Or did you just happen to agree and like what he said? The only expert I know is Ed002 (Not trying to blow his trumpet).

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Of course we weren't a one man team last season, but it seems you have forgotten his importance already. He is a big loss hence his £75m transfer to one of the biggest clubs in the world.

It's as if you are trying your best to convince people that the world's BEST players are garbage. No disrespect, but you talk too much nonsence.

Red Rum

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The last 6/7 games of the season suarez was very disinterested, it was round about the same time that he said that he was really worried about getting injured before the world cup.

He still managed to pick up a goal and a couple of assists I think bit hours overall play was hurting the team at times. Sadly of he had been more focused on scoring goals against city and Chelsea and less focused on whether or not he would be injured we might be the proud owners of a title.

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17 Jul 2014 20:40:34
One day I will prove Ed002 wrong I guarantee it!

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Nevada, EMS, I can't remember Suarez being disinterested or not trying or being so bad it was almost like playing with ten men, the guy worked his heart out every time I watched him.
He's gone and to be honest it hasn't bothered me because of the baggage he carries and the way after all what done for him (club and supporters ) he sh*t on us but he was unbelievable for us on the pitch. He done things other players wouldn't even dream they could get away with but he did, regularly, and his stats speak for themselves. He won almost every personal award going last season, awarded by people (journalists and opponents etc) who if they could would have voted for someone, anyone else, but they voted for him because he was simply the best yet some of our own supporters are trying to devalue his contribution.

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18 Jul 2014 07:31:51
I don't think any of us are going to want to have a blow on Ed002's trumpet, Irish Rover! ;)

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17 Jul 2014 12:49:47
Hi guys,

Quick question for everyone so no slating for the question!

Reports suggesting Balotelli's asking price is only £14 million!?

Before anyone starts stating the obvious that he can be hard work etc because we all know that BUT the guy is young - He had the world at his feet at the age of 19/20 so yeah he had an attitude problem but look at past players who have had the same attitude?! They have had it because they know their quality!

Personally IF the fee is only 14 million I for one would be happy to give BR a chance of working with him as he's still young and I like how he takes care of our youngsters - Plus I think Balotelli would love anfield for the one simple reason if you score consistently at anfield we all know how we adore our strikers! I mean Suarez was banned for god knows how long with us and we still loved him,

ANyways just wanted to hear everyones thoughts?

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Not worth the agro

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Before Roberto Mancini even starts the first day on his new job as Italy coach, the first thing on his mind is how much " Balotelli needs to grow up if he wants to play in the team". This is the extent to which Balotelli gives cold sweats to coaches who have previous experience with him. Now why o why do you want such a massive unsettling headache at Anfield? Trust me there are enough other players who'll give you the same amount of goals in a season without the circus this man takes along with him everywhere.

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We could get Mario and Joey Barton, that will keep sext season

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I mean. that will keep us busy next season

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I'd take him for 14 mil!

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Mate, we have a golden opportunity to lay the ghost of Luis Suarez and start to repair the reputation he damaged.
We couldn't really deal with the problems Luis brought down on us and, as a result, we became a bit of a joke.
The new signings have all said the right things so far and I'm inclined to believe that we are building a proper team.
Mario Balotelli isn't a humble team-player with an impeccable work ethic whose off-field behaviour is beyond scrutiny. Is he?

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17 Jul 2014 11:45:19
Edds2 athletico to get Moreno aswell as recent signing siqueira, 2 of are reported targets away.

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Our left back targets were Rojo, Moreno and Bertrand. Rojo interest was dropped. We pulled out of the Moreno deal and now we've gone back to Chelsea very recently regarding Bertrand. We've not missed out on anyone. We've intelligently refused to over pay for young and unproven foreign players and gone for the safer option, albeit with less potential but at a 3rd of the price.

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Yeah, this transfer window is going great. We sold our very best player and missed out on all targets except for Can and Lallana, who's fee of 25 pounds now seem ridiculous with both Kroos and Khedira (world class players) going for a lot less.

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17 Jul 2014 13:31:06
Between Bertrand and Davies, I am unsure who to take to be honest.

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Dwarfonoboat
people like you just see the transfer fee
do you realize how much kroos or khedira would earn in a year 10 million +
five years and that becomes 50
so stop making all these silly ill thought pessimistic comments

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Kroos is going for less because his contract expires very soon. And he will cost a fortune in wages. Try to keep up.

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I guess everyone forgets that players don't determine their transfer fee, the clubs do. On top of that, fans forget that those players ALSO receive wages. In addition to that, some players have a notion of where they would prefer to play.

Toni Kroos would only leave to play for Madrid. If United bid 30 million, Liverpool bid 30 million and Real Madrid bid 30 million, he would still choose Madrid. Khedira will make something like 7-8 million pounds next season. Sometimes, our transfer committee realize these things in advance and don't bother, other times -- as in Moreno -- it becomes obvious as transfer talks progress.

We had to sell Suarez. If you don't understand why by now, you will never understand. We made a substantial profit on the player, and his world class wages are now off the books. Pretty sure 250+ a week covered if not all, at least the vast majority of all 4 players wages that we have signed.

Furthermore, we signed players that fill the actual roles we need filled. Henderson needed some relief, that's what Can will be this year, and he'll probably begin taking over for Gerrard by season's end. Markovic gives us width on the left, a position Coutinho/Allen were forced to play last year to little effect.

Not buying an additional wide player like Griezman will give us an opportunity to grow players like Ibe and Smith.

Our squad is much improved from last year, and I honestly feel we only need 1, possibly 2 defensive additions to round out the team. An additional striker would be fantastic, but its not a priority

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17 Jul 2014 11:07:58
Eds i'm not sure weather this will ever happen but i'm going to ask you anyway.

I think that Liverpool should link up with Tranmere Rovers/Accrington Stanley and loan them players so they get a taste of what English football is all about as lower league football is very hard and competitive rather than buy players and loan them abroad that way we would potentially all benefit as the way its going in 10 - 15 years or so a lot of the lower league clubs will be non existent as they are already struggling financially so really the Epl clubs should try and help out as much as possible.

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It's more common than you'd think in modern football. The best example is Chelsea with Vitesse.

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Where in England is Vitesse then?

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Haven't we got got connections with Crewe?

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I'm not on about in England. I meant football in general. Vitesse are from Holland and Chelsea loan them a lot of players every season. It gives the Chelsea guys first team action and Vitesse get good players without paying loads out.

Therefore, my point was there would be nothing stopping it happening within England. Stop splitting hairs for christ sake.

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17 Jul 2014 11:03:26
Someone I would have liked to see in an lfc shirt next season is Walcott, fits the bill in my eyes, is he still injured? I know its too late now as we have brought in some good attackers. Were interested again at all this summer?

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

17 Jul 2014 10:23:07
I would be sad if we signed Bakkali. Why do we need him when Ibe is a huge talent?

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I don't see the issue in having two huge talents?

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Defense

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17 Jul 2014 12:06:23
We shouldn't be spending on such players now! We've a lot like him already in the likes od ibe, sterling, suso,peterson, etc. We also have areas in the first team that needs strenghtning (experienced hands)

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17 Jul 2014 13:22:20
Not that I have any idea what he is like, but I bet if he became a world beater in 2-3 years you'd be the one asking why we don't spend £50m on him

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17 Jul 2014 13:32:44
I don't see what can be gained by signing another wide player, who is not ready for the PL anyway.

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17 Jul 2014 10:14:17
Hi Eds,

What's the situation with Ryan McLaughlin. He's put in some stellar performances for us in the youth teams and I was hoping he'd be our future for one of the full back positions. Are there any plans to continue his loan or promote him this season?

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{Ed002's Note - You will need to wait until Ed001 returns and ask him when he is around.}

Ed001 replied to this the other month. He said I expects him to get a chance in pre-season and then go out on loan.

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17 Jul 2014 13:34:15
Probably a loan is on the cards for McLaughlin; most likely to a Championship side.

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17 Jul 2014 09:48:38
hey eds what's the situation with Jonathan Tah he looks a really solid defender for such a young age

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any "situation" with Tah.}

17 Jul 2014 13:36:00
So is Ilori and yet we are loaning him out. Does that tell you anything about the what will happen with Tah and LFC?

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17 Jul 2014 09:34:40
Hi eds. I've used the sf but nothing recent. Any update on Serge Aurier? I saw on one of the other pages that another club is in talks with him after his proposed move to arsenal seems to have collapsed. while his agent has also stated that he's in talks with a big premier league team. Just wondering which team that was? Looks a great player thanks much appreciated

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{Ed002's Note - The search function will only search the Liverpool page. The talks were with Arsenal (a deal could not be agreed) and PSG.}

17 Jul 2014 09:10:21
iS there any truth in Mark hughes wanting Assaidi? According to telegraph for around £7million although I know you can't comment on amount. But have you heard of the interest?

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Stokes Chairman has already stated that they would like him, but cost is prohibitive, and Liverpool hold all the cards. I expect this deal to get done though.

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17 Jul 2014 09:02:01
Hey guys, not posted for a bit. How are we all doing?

Food for thought, am I the only one worried about how much we are spending?
I would much rather see us invest a little heavier in the acadamy and give the young players a shot. If you look down the recent years, this can be show to work long term. Barca, BVB and Man United in the 90s show how useful it could be. I personally think the likes of Suso, Ibe, Smith and Rossiter can do a great job for us if given a shot.

Thoughts?

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That is pretty much what Liverpool are doing and are trying to improve.
Look at the last 3/4 years at the youngsters who have been given game time, Flanagan, Robinson, Wisdom, Smith, Sterling, Suso, Ibe, Sinclair. Although some have only been fleeting appearances, they are vital in the youngsters development, in terms of gaining vital match experience and for the coaching staff to assess it they have what is required to cut the mustard.
Investment wise the club have signed bright prospects in Ojo, Paez, Canos, Chirivella, Yesil, Teixeira, Ilori, Alberto, not to mention Henderson and Coutinho who were young when signed.
I don't quite understand what more you would like the club to do?

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17 Jul 2014 08:34:35
hello eds,
are we considering karl darlow as understudy for mignolet as he is touted to be best young keeper in england?

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17 Jul 2014 08:25:09
Liverpool lead Tottenham Hotspur and Valencia in the chase for 18-year old PSV Eindhoven winger Zakaria Bakkali, reports the Metro.

The highly rated winger is being tracked extensively by Kop boss Brendan Rodgers, who is willing to match the Belgian international's £6.3 million price tag.

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It's going to be an interesting season with a team full of wingers

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17 Jul 2014 08:17:27
Good morning Eds

Is there anything in the rumours linking us with the young winger Bakkali please?

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At least this is a fresh new rumour! . I wouldn't mind him coming but think he would be another player to send straight back out on loan. preferably prem team but most likely back to psv. I would not see him playing a lot this season but would be happy with this signing for sure!

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17 Jul 2014 07:13:41
Cmon people. you guys need to stop with the Reus and Hummels question. They ain't coming. Wake up! We already have sterling, coutinho, lallana and now just spend €25m on markovic and also ibe to come thru. No more winger for us.

Yes I would love to have them too but let's be realistic. As for Hummels, I don't even know where this rumour come from.

I'm pretty sure we will sign Lorven in the end. It's just a matter of time. We had verbal offer and twice bid for the player. Plus he himself say he would love to move here. No point keeping an unhappy player in the club.

Let's keep our finger cross and hope for the best.

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Lovren would be good! But in my opinion we need another forward (world class, if you like)! Lambert being back up (he's 32!) and Markovic being very young and untested! Surely they can't be our only forward additions. replacing Suarez? let's not be naive. if u can't replace Suarez atleast get a proven player with quality coming close to Suarez's level! A front three of sterling sturridge and markovic is not good enough to compete in my opinion and u could replace any forward in our squad into that front 3 and it still won't be good enough. we need one really quality forward in this team!

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Which striker would you get in realistically?

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@bobatron - This is actually a good question as anyone I've seen mentioned has either been praised or proper slated - If we could all choose another striker to come in and do a job who would we all choose? (REALISTICALLY)

Im not even sure personally, I think Bony could offer something whilst not thinking he's too big for the club, Reus I think would be a big statement but is that all it would be?

Although he can be hard work - If balotelli is £14 million quid surely he's worth taking a risk on and letting BR work his magic as the guy is still young and I think he would love Liverpool as Liverpool would adore him as long as he scores which he isn't shy doing

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Romelu Lukaku

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17 Jul 2014 13:25:28
So let me get this straight Lion. It's not good to have an old, experienced player. It's also not good to have a young, energetic and eager player. Our player must be between 24-28 to be of any use

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"we need one really quality forward in this team"

Sturridge and Sterling have proven they are exactly that.

There will be no more forward players coming in unless Borini and Assaidi are sold, then and only then will it even be considered.

You have to remember to play in the front 3 we currently have the following

Sturridge
Sterling
Markovic
Borini
Lambert
Assaidi
Ibe
Aspas (seems he has gone)

that's not including people like Yesil, Sinclair, Peterson, Adjoran, and Countinho, Suso, Teixeira who can play there.

And you want to add another?

I think we will sign 1 more player (CB or LB) and then everything else will be sell before we buy. We can't afford anything else, how is this so difficult to grasp?

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Borini not good enough, assaidi gone aspas gone and ibe not ready

That leaves us with sturridge sterling lallana coutinho markovic and lambert

3 of them will start so we are still in need of another forward preferably a world class one so the kids can go on the bench

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When saying we have to get another striker (which I'm not entirely convinced we do need) You have to look at what we have, money available, current squad, ability and various other factors. fact is there won't be many world class striker who are going to come to Liverpool this summer.
A lot of deals have already been done, lewandwski went on a free, immobile has already moved, etc.

A list of strikers I think could add 15-20 goals for Liverpool and that we may be able to afford are.

-Loic Remy(Although plays similarly to Sturridge)
-Di Natale(old at 36, but still banged in 17 in 32 last season)
-Huntelaar (I don't think he fits)
-Destro
-Chicarito(It'll never happen, but he IS a good player)

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Am I having an aneurysm?

"we only have 6 players for 3 positions so we really need another world class one"

What so we can have a batch of players feeling undervalued and unplayed?

Staggering how people are intent on our club ruining itself just so they can have a new name on their knock off shirt!

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17 Jul 2014 06:19:26
Hi Guys

Been on this site for ages, but this is my first time posting.

Very impressed Ibe performance last night.
In my eyes, we need the following reinforcements
: Left Back - Ben Davies/Moreno/Bertrand- I like Bertrand
: Centre Back - Lovren
: striker - L Remy

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17 Jul 2014 13:05:47
Agree with you on Lovren and Bertrand. And I also think a Bertrand/Enrique competition for Lb would see the best come out of both players.
But Remy?

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Hjikle what I'm saying is u can't expect a inexperienced 20 year old to have consistently good performances throughout the season. and Lambert is not what I would call world class. or an adequate substitute for Suarez. good but defo not world class. maradonakebab basically summarises what I'm trying to say

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17 Jul 2014 01:25:00
Hey eds

Just curios as to the possibility of Simon kjaer? I know there could be nothing but if I'm correct we did look at him before

Also on a personal note who do you think is our best acquisition so far?

Thanks eds

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has not shown any interest in Kjaer. I have no way of sensibly answering the second question.}

17 Jul 2014 00:46:01
Eds, is there any real interest in Lacazette? Search function used and you have briefly mentioned. I just wondered if you have picked anything up (sarcastic reply tee there ha).

Thanks again for your replies. You give us all something to debate regardless. Great site!

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{Ed002's Note - There is interest in him from a number of clubs, and Liverpool watched the player. If Liverpool are interested it will mean no Origi.}

Hi ed
Don't know much about the player do u feel he will be a good addition
Thanks ed

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{Ed002's Note - UTSF.}

17 Jul 2014 00:10:53
Hi Eds, was just reading that there is a possibility of qpr signing the legendary ronaldinho for as little as 5 mil, km interested to know your opinion and of fellow reds if ye would like to see him in a Liverpool shirt next year, I think he is the star we need to replace suarez

cheers

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{Ed002's Note - Putting aside the money, Ronaldinho has been offered to several sides - certainly Palace is one. He won't be joining Liverpool.}

I'd just love to see him in the premier league!

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16 Jul 2014 23:44:25
Apparently Isco could be coming in on loan - have you heard anything on this eds?

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

16 Jul 2014 22:36:11
Hi Ed's

was just wondering if there have ever been any newspaper football headlines that have obviously come from information that you've given on this site?

cheers

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{Ed002's Note - The last one I remember was "The Bishop and the Space Hopper".}

16 Jul 2014 22:09:23
Xherdan Shaqiri is set for talks with Liverpool officials next week player wants the move. Not happy with Bayerns comments that he "is one for the future"

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{Ed002's Note - That would put Liverpool in all sorts of trouble of course.}

16 Jul 2014 21:19:57
hi eds any interest in griezmann? also is there any interest in turan? my mate seems to think so however I believe this come from newspapers

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{Ed002's Note - As replacements for Markovic and Lallana?}

16 Jul 2014 20:47:23
Hi eds what is the latest regarding Ben Davis have Liverpool and Spurs made a bid for him?

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{Ed002's Note - See earlier answers please.}

17 Jul 2014 01:08:22
I think its interesting that in a recent interview Negredo pointed out that Skrtel was one of the best defenders he'd played against last year. He maybe accident prone but he definitely was a big factor in a great last season. should try to keep hold of him!

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I'm not sure on Skrtel, I like him and think when he's on it, he's a good player but he has a good season, then a bad season, then a good season and so on, so I'm not sure whether the club should look to sell the player or not.

I also think he needs to cut out that shirt pulling, how that didn't cost us I don't know!

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Agree with both of you! He's a good defender who needs to cut out the shirt pulling!

What the back 5 needs is an organiser, a leader etc it's about having confidence in each other as well, so a strong keeper is important, from a communication perspective

At this point we have decent players but neither a leader nor a goalkeeper who inspires confidence. I like mingolet but he's got to man up and own his area . once he does (if he does) then it's quite possible the rest could fall into place.

Oh, and a gobby centre half wouldn't be a bad idea either!

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That's because Skrtel has no pace. Now ask Aguero or Walcott if they agree. Skrtel is a gpod defender bit he is dirty at set pieces, very slow and prone to lapses in concentration. All the traits you don't need when playing a high line!

I love his passion and he'd leave with my best wishes because nobody can say he hasn't tried! If we want to move forward though, we can't hold on to someone who scores 5 goals and makes 9 further errors leading to goals. He is also silent on the pitch which doesn't do his partner any good.

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Isn't that part of the problem?
Quick players make a mug out of him but against the slow, lumbering Negredo he's fine.
The way we play you need pace or the ability to read the game. I'm sorry but Skrtel is not the best at either of these.

We can do much better.

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For me, Lovren and Skrtel should be competing for that spot this season. Likewise, Agger and Sakho for the left side.

Red Rum

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No repectable footballer is ever going to come out and say oh ''when I played against him, he was in my pocket, It was literally a training ground routine without the cones, they should sell him''

Of course he's going to compliment skrtel and be nice.

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It'll now be in the papers tomorrow that Negredo is anfield bound surely ;)

As for Agger Skrtel i'm happy with both of them, its the cover infront and from the sides that's the problem, image mascherano playing infront, no one would question our CB's then

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I'd like Lovren and Toure/Ilori competing the right side and Agger and Sakho competing for the left with Kelly being the versatile defender for the bench every game due to the fact he can play across the back 4.

Skrtel's stock is high and Galatasaray are keen. We should wish him luck and say good bye.

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17 Jul 2014 00:41:23
Fellow Reds, who interests you most out of the signings to date? I'm really happy with Lambert and Lallana and hope Markovic lives up to expectations and potential. Emre Can for me looks like he could turn out to be indispensable. From the little I've seen (youtube clips like most of you), he looks great. Seems to work hard and be aggressive combined with some speed and skill. Add to that his versatility of positions and I have my fingers crossed that he'll eventually become one of the first names on the teamsheet. Thoughts?

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Couldn't agree more. Can see him becoming a beast of a player in a year or two.

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I agree mate.

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I'm thinking he could surprise a few and hit the ground running, never mind in a year or two. We're not talking about a player like Alberto (who I quite like) who has played second tier footy this guy has Bundesliga experience under his belt.

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16 Jul 2014 23:22:38
Have we looked at Bernat as a LB option?
Do you think it odd that we haven't shown interest in Ricardo Rodrigues, or is it the case that he isn't interested in us?
What would you think is a rough indicator of Rojo's value, and would he be content to play at left-back at club-level. I've not seen many CBs that are so adept out wide

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17 Jul 2014 01:08:46
Bernat signed for Bayern Munich last week mate, £7.9 mil, shame I thought he looked much better than Moreno

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Sorry I think Rojo is awful

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17 Jul 2014 00:24:58
Don't know about you lot, but I absolutely can't wait for this season to get going! Always look forward but now more so than ever :)

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