Liverpool Banter Archive March 17 2014

17 Mar 2014 22:23:08
Hi eds and all reds, who would you have as your most improved player this season. Hendo has been quality, but for me it's either sterling or flanno. Sterling is much more confident and there is some end product but it's his physical side that's really impressed. Flanno was never meant to be anything other than a stop gap but he has been immense. Tackling, passing and confident on the ball and who could forget that goal!It's up for discussion, let's have your player and reason please :-)

Flanno has been excellent, So has Sterling; However without question the most improved player so far this season has been Jordan Henderson. For me he has to be a contender for our player of the year.

Sterling is becoming a complete footballer and isn`t even old enuff to drink yet (in the U.S). If he works hard, he will be very SPECIAL.

I have to go with Flanagan simply because I didn't see it coming. To be honest, I had written the lad off entirely as 'likely to be sold to a Championship or League One side' and he's proved that not only is a capable backup, but he's actually quite good. I'm amazed by how comfortable he seems to be with the ball at his feet- I don't really remember that as being something I thought when I had seen him play previously.

Sterling has been brilliant, but for me, it has to be Flanagan.

Sterling and Henderson both showed flashes of quality last season and have went on to be more consistently good.

Whereas, Flanagan wow - I doubt many of us saw him coming in the team and running the show!

Flanno was gone deadwood now he is a hero we new the others had potential but flanno worked hard what a inspiration for other lads out there

17 Mar 2014 21:37:20
My last post was on 24/2 where I was ultra concerned about the mancs winning the CL and if we finished 4th it would count for nothing.
It still might happen.but I'm now daring to dream that we might finish a lot higher than 4th.
If we win all of our remaining games only city can beat us to the title and therefore they will need to draw 1 other game for us to win it. As I say, I dare to dream.
I felt so proud of the boys yesterday. Thought Flanno and Hendo were immense in addition to our superstars.
Two clean sheets from our last 2 away games is promising and perhaps BR now feels that they are our best centre back pairing?!
Whatever, come on you mighty reds!
2009 Captain

Im not having a go but I really wish posters would pipe down about our ambitions for the season. I would rather under play our situation. let's just keep a lid on things. Please.

How anyone can believe Manchester United have the slightest chance of winning the champions league is beyond me. If they drew Bayern/Barca/Real it could be double figures on aggregate!

The only way the mancs can win the CL is if all those great teams withdrawfrom the competition as a whole.

Agreed The Irish Rover.
As for Utd winning CL. Remember 2005?
Just about everyone gave us no hope.
Lets just keep tabs on what LFC are doing. Take one game at time.
Out fate is in our hands. No one else's.
Were 2nd and there on merit.
Lets not get carried away with talk of "if we win our remaining matches". All that matters is Cardiff Saturday and when that game is complete then move onto the next game (Sunderland).
I've seen computer predictions about who will win what game and who will be champions. But hey, not every game goes the way you think it will. (A.V. 1 - 0 Chelsea)
Lets sit back and enjoy the ride.
vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.

17 Mar 2014 20:34:51
Hi reds, a regular visitor to the site but have just signed up. Hope to have some interesting debates about our beloved club on a very regular basis lol

Cheers eds, great work as usual

{Ed002's Note - Welcome.}

17 Mar 2014 20:05:23
Is it true that Suarez and Sturridge has scored the same number of goals as the entire United team this season?

Not sure Noski but isn't it 43 goals between them. That would be a goal for every point in a 43 point swing from this time last year lol.

Heard a stat that we've scored more goals in the first half of games in the league than MU have in all their league games. sweet!

Unfortunately not; SAS = 43 Goals & MUFC = 46 Goals.

May very well end up like that though on current form.

17 Mar 2014 18:33:55
How many points can we afford to drop and still win the title? I reckon we can only drop 2 points. Goal difference is going to have a big say, it is worth a point in itself.

Evo

Focus on the next game and nothing more IMO.

I'm not an advocate of looking 10 fixtures ahead but what is it with this whole next game nothing else matters. Obviously the players need that attitude but why are fans getting shot down for thinking about a title?

17 Mar 2014 17:53:43
'The storm will pass and the sun will rise again' - Mata

no juan, the words are. "when you walk through a storm. at the end of a storm is a golden sky"

imitation is the sincerest form of flattery I guess though ;)

Hahah, I was thinking the same when I saw the quotes.

Let's see if Mr. Mata hangs around if Utd are not in CL for a second season.

I watched Mata play yesterday and asked what in God`s name had happened to the great player who once ruled the roost at chelsea. He looked as clueless as The Clueless One himself.

While we are on the subject of united crapness, one of their biggest problems is the under performance of Rooney. He used to be a match changer, but now he runs round like a clueless soft tart. He looks like he cares much more about his bank account than playing football for ManU.

17 Mar 2014 17:30:40
At 16.30 on Sunday 16-3-2014 I was at home watching the match when I heard a very loud thump . I wondered what that could be then it dawned on me it was just Manchester United falling of their perch!

17 Mar 2014 17:15:15
Hi guys and girls did anyone see that woman at old Trafford screaming obscenities at our players taking corners? A few years ago a Red fan at Anfield was banned for abusing a man united player so what is going to happen to that woman she was absolutely hysterical and full of venom and abuse

There fans we very bitter all day. It was great to smash them. Some of there songs we pretty low which none have been mentioned in the media as they are there darlings. Anyway let them enjoy yesterday as much as us.

I think she got what she deserved by the final whistle mate haha

Yes I noticed her, she embodied their fans, more interested in slating us than supporting their own players

quite how rooney plays for a team who sing so many anti scouse songs I'll never know.

oh a third of a million quid a week should do it ;)

I was at Old Trafford at Suarez/Evra handshake game in with the corporate section as a guest of friend. We had to endure for 90 minutes a fan of MUFC standing up and screaming abuse, calling LFC fans one particular word. The stewards did nothing, I had a word with him at the end and he denied he had been abusive, the stewards then got involved and the person and his group where escorted out of the lounge we went back into. A report is filed with the FA about the incident. The stewards could not do enough after that with one of them stating that it is not like that usually in the corporate section but is in the rest of the ground! Wilf McGuiness came over and was top class and entertained us with some stories of him Jimmy Melia and Jimmy Tarbuck and the goings on at the Adelphi Hotel many years ago. That was the best part of the day!

Evo

17 Mar 2014 18:51:12
did anyone see the nani lookalike in the growd, r maybe he was that afraid carra would be there he was hiding in the growd.

17 Mar 2014 15:46:20
Having been one if the people who doubted Gerrard in the holding role, I think it is only fair I applaud him for his performance yesterday. Although I think he needs to be at that level consistently, not just against Everton and United. He has been shakey there, but he has produced 'battling' rather than 'composed' performances. He is noticeably improving and although I still think he is prone to lapses in concentration when it comes to his positional play, he is far calmer in possession in the deeper positions than he ever has been.

Is he better than Lucas? He is different. I would still rather have Lucas there against top teams as he protects the defence better. However against lesser teams Gerrards vision makes him a deep lying weapon and allows us to simply outscore teams. One thing I will say is that the last two clean sheets have came with Hendo and Allen alongside him which I think helps Stevie a lot. Coutinho and Gerrard in the same team lacks balance, as much as Gerrard and Lucas in the same team lacks mobility.

I think Hendo and Allen are definitely our best midfield duo and that they just need one of Gerrard or Lucas behind them depending on the opposition. Coutinho goes missing sporadically and until that inconsistency is eliminated from his game, he is better off as part of the front 3 competing with Sterling for a starting role.

As I say though, well done Gerrard, keep on improving and keep an eye out for late runs from midfield! Physically he is well suited to the role and he has the passing range. If he can add to the tactical side of his game, he may have a couple more seasons in him yet. Hopefully he gets to lift the title this season as he's a legend regardless and would retire as the greatest player never to win a league title.

I dunno which games you watch, but Gerrard has put in brilliant perfromances for almost every game. Hull, Arsenal and Chelsea and villa weren't good, but almost every other performance has been of good quality.since january he's been brilliant

Steven Gerrard as been superb the last two months.

Check the stats out my fellow Red, Gerrard has been one of the leagues top performers since the turn of the year, we are also unbeaten in 2014.

Didn't think he would grow into it, but he is and that's credit to BR.

17 Mar 2014 20:29:57
Stats can be misleading. I'm not saying he has been bad so please don't think that. He just has to be careful he doesn't get sucked towards the ball rather than watch the men running beyond him. I doubted him but I actually have faith he'll adapt to the position now. He's not a specialist for the role, but he brings something new to it. It makes us more exciting albeit a bit open. They say the best form of defence is attack though.

Calm down bobatron sir. I watch the games very closely. Sometimes you have to look past the crunching tackles and watch him off the ball and see the effects his positioning has. He's improving every game though, and I've never not wanted him to do well. So hopefully he keeps feeding me the humble pie.

So Gerrard only played well v Everton and Utd hey, absolute bo**ocks, hope you don't bump into Stevie and tell him your thoughts, I reckon it might be more than humble pie you will be eating!

Midlands, you`re talking crap and lots of it too. SG struggled in that position in two games at best (Villa and West Brom) and since then, he`s been awesome. He plays the "Pirlo" position and even Pirlo recognizes it because he hailed SG as the best midfielder England`s ever had in his opinion which I do not take lightly. I suggest you watch the games w/ both your eyes and an open mind so as to prevent u from talking the crap u talk.

18 Mar 2014 09:30:08
I guarantee you Gerrard would agree with me. I am sure he and Rodgers sit and analyse his performances hence the improvement in his game. But everything I've said regarding the tactical side to his defensive game is fair and constructive. I'm entitled to an opinion and I'm sure Rodgers has seen it too. He wasn't great against Fulham or Swansea either (defensively that is). Even against Arsenal their goal was because he got caught ball watching and had to dive into a tackle in the box.

Do me a favour and read what I've actually written. I'm not saying he's been bad. Quite the opposite. I'm just looking at things from an unbiased point of view and pointing out areas he still needs to work on.

I cannot believe the irony in somebody trying to oppress my opinion telling me to open my mind.

17 Mar 2014 15:16:56
Hey everyone just wanted to post this as this is the first time I have been privileged to be this overcome with happiness. I am an American who grew up playing soccer/football but never really watched.like most Americans who didn't know anything I at first blindly supported Chelsea. It was not until 2008 when I was watching the euro final that I saw Fernando Torres play and I instantly was amazed. I then started to watch Liverpool games to see my favorite player and what happend was truly the best thing ever, I started yo truly love Liverpool football club. I began to research the history, and the more I read the more I became obsessed. For the past 7 years I have gone from never watching and being a Torres fan to religously watching and being a true Liverpool fan. Until now though I have really only experienced some lesser years if I may say always being told by rival supporters how rubbish we are and that we would never be a threat again. TODAY I can finally say that all of those people now text me saying how we are favorites to win the table. How our attack is so amazing to watch. After 7 years of truly learning and supporting this great club in a time of destructive owners and rebuilding I am finally experiencing the pure joy and happiness of watching the one thing I love more than anything else on this world fight to be right were they belong. Win the title or not this has been the best Liverpool season I have experienced and the most fun team I have watched.

Just wanted to see what everyone else favorite season they have been a fan of was. And how you all became fans of this truly amazing family that is Liverpool.

YNWA


P.S.

I can not say how gappy it makes me that I can now watch all of the bandwagon united fans jump ship.

Alright chap

My earliest memory (in my life) was kickin a ball around in the field next to my house.
With jumpers for goalposts, I weaved my way through 2 or 3 of my pals before hoofing the ball under ( definitely 'under' ) the invisible crossbar.
This was coupled with a very loud scream of Dalgleeeeeeshhh!

I remember then having to run half a mile or so to get the ball back because my friends threatened 'not to play anymore'!

The rest is history my friend.

Edoo2 you will have noticed that ElRobbeNino has completed the same journey that you are on. It
seems though that you are stuck at the 'supporting Chelsea' phase. Maybe a private email to him to find out how to return to the path of righteousness?

{Ed002's Note - I'll keep that in mind.}

Nice one mate. I started supporting football here in Australia when we beat Uruguay in a playoff to make the 2006 world cup - it went to penos and I remember the wiining one - hysteria. Followed the Aussie league for a while, then discovered the EPL - picked Middlesborough as my team as they had two Aussies (Schwarzer and Viduka) at the time. But back then our pay tv only showed the big four games, so only saw Middlesborough 8 times a year. Swithched to LFC because my missus picked them thanks (and a massive THANKS!) to Harry Kewell. Same story as you then mate - reading the history and falling in love with the club. Shattered I missed Istanbul by one year though!

I never had a choice, all seven uncles were die hard reds and I was Christened in red and white! However unlike the blues i'm not bitter! I can just about remeber us winning in '77, watching it at my Nan's. All my family had bunked the trains to get there! Anyway nice to have you in clan LFC

17 Mar 2014 12:16:06
Not exactly a transfer related question but I remember reading a while back that our deal with standard chartered yields more money if we participate in the champions league any truth to this?

{Ed002's Note - Not as such. It provides for less money when in the CL so in all probability Liverpool will be getting the full amount next season.}

17 Mar 2014 11:10:34
Hello eds and fellow reds,

Great win for us yesterday absolutely buzzing this morning.

For me this still isn't our greatest win at OT. The 4-1 would probably always be the greatest. United was a beast of a force then compared to the team they have now and we beat them 4-1

Everyone's starting to dream about the title and not to jinx it i'm trying as hard as I can not too.

We've all been praising the owners for there contributions but I just hope us not getting a forward (Kono or Salah) as rodgers wanted too might end up hurting our title chances. I hope it doesn't but it would be very upsetting if it us.

Oh God, not the Kono and Salah stories again.

17 Mar 2014 10:37:33
Eds and reds. Can anyone help with how I could get tickets to the Chelsea or city game without paying ridiculous prices? Thanks

You could win them.

17 Mar 2014 10:34:48
YNWA Adam, has your opinion on Stevie changed at all my mate? Because apart from the first half v Villa he has been excellent in the holding midfield role. I've not been impressed with Allen since we signed him but thought he was excellent yesterday and if he plays near that level in the future then I will be delighted to say he's proved me wrong!

By the way Henderson was OUTSTANDING yesterday AGAIN!

You do not seem to have noticed how BR has given him the necessary support defensively in Henderson and Allen.
This has contributed to him being able to play with less pressure as well as less defensive responsibility.
But got to give stevie G credit. He has definately improved and adapted to the new role. He did have some teething problems at first.

What a patronising reply, Hendo has been Stevies legs because he's no longer in a position to run box to box because of his age, Allen is in and out of the side so that comment is a fallacy.

Stevie is controlling the tempo of the game and protecting the back four, it's no coincidence that our defence is not as rocky lately and that's down to Stevie and Hendo, the back four is still a cause for concern, and could we'll be our undoing, but the 2 lads in front of them are a massive help.

I take it you are one of a number of posters who have criticised Stevie this season, hence the back handed compliment to Stevie in your reply. hold your hand up lad and say you were to hasty writing off a club legend

Waro he has exciled that role. Are you starting to believe mate? Because I am.

Mr Ears, I have seen to many false dawns over the years so I am tempering my enthusiasm to protect myself and my sons to be honest, I will always play it down because when I was a lot younger I was quite cocky and used to front it out with Blues about how good we were and what we were going to do, and got enough egg on my face to make a vast omelette that would make it into the Guinness Book of Records mate, but I'm just closing my eyes and keeping everything crossed fella ;)

Quite simply he is pure quality. Cast your mind back to before Christmas last season. Gerrard again was over the hill, too old, no impact blah blah blah. He is the best, a truely world class midfielder (not a term I use for every player like some). He has a few years yet in him. Keep it up Stevie.

17 Mar 2014 12:46:50
I'll cop some aggro for this, but here goes.

He's done a lot better than I thought he would, no denying that, and you definitely can't argue with the results. But I still have niggling doubts about his ability to do the defensive duty against top opposition. I'd much more comfortable with Lucas there. Man United weren't good enough to take advantage of it. I'm not sure I can say the same about Chelsea and especially about City.

It'll probably be seen as 'negative', but we should really consider playing Lucas in front of the back 4, and Gerrard either slightly further ahead, or maybe deep with him, for the City and Chelsea games. Let's not forget when we were the better team at the Etihad, it was with Lucas in the holding role, and two just ahead of him. I think that approach or something like it would be best for those two games, even if it's at the expense of either Coutinho or Sterling.

For all the other matches, Gerrard holding in a 433, or the diamond we played yesterday with either Gerrard or Lucas in the holding role will be absolutely fine.

I want to stress that I'm very happy overall with the way the team's played this season, but managing this correctly could be the difference between 1st and 3rd.

I'll raise my hand here, Waro, and fair play to you. I'm with Something Red and have to admit I didn't see Gerrard really fitting into this role. Still not 100% sure it's a perfect for him, but results and performances would indicate I'm completely wrong. Midfield and the setup yesterday was perfect for dominating United.

I do have to say though that if I were playing against Liverpool the last thing I would want to face is Sterling, Henderson, and Allen, all of whom are going to run and press constantly backed by a player of the caliber of Gerrard. It's got to be seriously annoying as that quartet never give you any time on the ball.

Waro
Haha I hear ya mate! how many times have we fluffed it games like yesterday and against the saints.
But I am feeling something has changed and we should enjoy it.
If our guys ever needed us now is the time. And if we don't win it, well the players have given us everything they had and the further looks bright.
CL footy next year looks to be on the cards.
Still buzzing from yesterday and fecking love Br :)

Yes I have to say mine has Waro. I did indeed think it was too much of a risk playing him in the holding role, I didn't think he'd got enough defensive awareness for the job. In fact I'd go as far as to say he's creating a new type of holding role profile with his passing range, one I'm sure will end up in future coaching manuals as part of this evolving system which relies on pace up front.

Spot on Waro about Stevie, for some reason the doubters can't give him the full credit he deserves, you just have to look at his stats, goals and assists. Do you now what makes me laugh, you've got plasterers from Garston or chemistry teachers from maghull(examples only guys) saying Tucson like Gerrard needs to be more tactically aware! this is a stalwart of LFC, England captain and you've got comments like this from nobody's

18 Mar 2014 10:24:20
A nobody who was only denied passage into the professional game by injuries and breathing difficulties. Wind your neck in Alan. I've worked with some top coaches, been a youth coaching assistant and still play at an albeit, very low level. I'm 20 years old, and just because I'm not a "somebody" doesn't mean I cannot analyse a football match or see a players weaknesses.

East midlands, paranoia setting in is it? I mentioned no names. Yes youv'e noticed weakness's in Stevie's game, with your extensive (not) experience, he's shone for the reds for almost 15 years and is CURRENT captain of England. How many managers have had this tactically naive guy as first name on the team sheet but you want to try and pick holes in his game. Stevie may or may not, depending on opinions be THE best tactically but if other aspects of his game are top top class I will take a LITTLE dip in one aspect of his game. By the way I am not saying I agree with you but its all about opinions but people like you seem to want to pick at Stevie for some strange reason when he is performing brilliant. Look at his stats, goals, assists and I think he is 1st or 2nd in most influential player in the prem at the moment. Give the guy the praise he deserves will you.

18 Mar 2014 13:29:06
I have praised him! Did you actually read my post? I was congratulating him on adapting to the role and even said I had faith in him to keep improving and iron out his positional flaws. However, I am not going to whack the red tints on and claim he is perfect in that position. The only thing more annoying than people who go over board with criticism is people who go over board with praise.

Gerrard has been good and he has shown enough to suggest he can be an option at the base of a midfield trio. However even he will be dissapointed with some of the goals we've conceded that he was partially at fault for. Not 100% at fault by any means. Our defence has been shambolic up to the Southampton game, but Gerrard has still made little errors that have been punished by the opposition. I'm not suggesting he needs to be perfect. If he was we'd never concede again. But conceding 10-15 goals in 9 games is too many regardless of how many we scored.

I will reiterate, I am not slating Gerrard and I do think he's been playing well. However, I am not going to ignore his weaknesses like eveyone else just because of his name. He is new to the role. 10 games approximately. I'm willing to give him time based on what I've seen over the last month or two. There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism though.

At least me and Ozone have come out and admitted we were wrong rather than just pretend we always believed in him and just unjustly continued to say he can't play there. He can't play alongside Lucas but that's as much Lucas' fault as they are both too immobile and need a shuttler alongside them.

Being critical and wanting the best does not make you a bad fan. If I was posting constant trash about Stevie and not even giving my reasonings I'd understand the way you, Bobatron and Redohio have disgracefully replied. But I'm not. I actually praised him. Don't attack me because it was balanced praise. I'm not claiming to have a wealth of experience, but I will not be patronised with regards to my knowledge of football. I have my own preferences in players and idealogies as to how the game should be played, just as you do. Don't try to oppress people who have different opinions though.

'Offers hand for a virtual handshake'

Peace?

East Midlands, we have different opinions, obviously, as you say he can't be perfect, no one can, but all your criticisms are now diluted, partially at fault, little errors etc but what I am saying is accounting for all the positives he has created from his new role, from goals and assists to his leadership and driving force why focus on partial and little failings. By the way I don't think my comments were disgraceful. You never know we might actually agree on something in the future, peace kid!

East Midlands, I posted a reply earlier but can't see it, I can't be arsed re writing it, the jist being we don't agree but it ended by saying peace kid!

17 Mar 2014 09:45:19
Anybody found Joe Allen this season to epitomise what being a squad player is all about?
He hasn't started every game, but when he's played he's come into the side strongly, and for me, he is very much a big part of how we play our pressing game, and he will be an integral player for years to come.

He's also in a similar position to Hendo, in that he would be such a more complete player if he were able to add 10 goals a season to his game.
He's young, it'll come as with Hendo. Great young players, well done Kenny and Brendan.

Was just thinking exactly the same.
big shout out to joe allen. kept his head down worked hard, got his chance, kept his place.

proper squad play at its best. will make coutinho/lucas etc up their game to try and get back in

Agreed BUT, he shouldn't be referred to as a SQUAD player.
He's is a rightful member of the CORE squad. Someone who has the passion and would be at the club for the next 7-8 years.
Look at Manchester United of past. The Cantona's and Ronaldo's came and went, but the true reason how they managed to keep winning was that there was a core squad in the scholes', nevilles, o shea's, browns, fletchers etc that kept the idiology of how they should play going. The big stars just added that extra bite they needed to push for the title.
BR has a core now and its still building.
In the Hendersons, allens, sterlings, flanagans, coutinho, sturridge.
These are players that could very well be here for the next 8 years.
Thats not even mentioning the Ibe's and others still to come.
Every summer they would only need to add that cutting edge. LFC wouldn't need to overhaul their squad for the next ten years.
Unlike Chelsea and City who are buying players in their prime and would need to overhaul their squads every 3-4 years.

I also think the two complement each other especially with Gerard behind them

For me joe allen had his best game yesterday and it says a lot about the lad cause he has had a lot of stick and to come back like he has in the last 2 games brilliant hope this kick starts his Liverpool carrer

Thought he did brilliantly, quiet efficiency and was the reason we went 2-0 up because of his movement.
Wasn't a fan before and I admit wrote him off.
Bloody good to be proven wrong.
But then play a bloke in his best role and see what you get.

I think against Swansea was when Allen stood up to be noticed, came off the bench and was awesome! Gets stuck in for his size too.

17 Mar 2014 09:17:34
Think we should all give a bit of support to united now, they have city coming up and we could do with them
Beating city. United on the other hand need a miracle lol

17 Mar 2014 09:47:55
Agreed. United are 0 threat to us anymore this season, and if city lose and we win, the title would actually be in our hands.
Win all our games and win the title.
Obviously we won't win all of our games, but even to be able to say that after 30+ games would almost be an achievement in itself.

17 Mar 2014 07:38:50
any news on brendan rodgers signing a new contract? fair to say he deserves it

Brendan says he will look at it in the summer as he doesn't want any distractions.
Really can't see him moving anywhere so don't worry.

Just like FSG did in the summer w/ Suarez, BR ain`t going NOWHERE.

17 Mar 2014 06:50:01
Gerrard in blood and Agger with an eye patch resembled Warriors.

And Ferguson's face was worth a fortune.

Great game guys, flanno seemed to be every where on the left wing.

Buzzin

17 Mar 2014 06:47:45
What a win Reds! Doesn't come much sweeter than completely smashing the old enemy away. Might be premature but I can see Brendan Rodgers building something really special here again.
Time to focus on the next game, really really tough we have to be all guns blazing and do the job

17 Mar 2014 04:50:11
The moment of the match for me?

Gerrard dropping the hammer on Fellaini, and almost separating his forehead from the rest of his face. One of our players was in the way and he got flattened too (Sterling, I think).

Talk about sending a message.

People talk about whether Pirlo is better than Gerrard, or this or that.

It misses the point. Players like Pirlo can't do stuff like that.

And jones as well he thought he was going to do gerrard but got left in a heap on the floor just hope we win the title because this man deserves it big time

17 Mar 2014 11:24:23
ferguson said that jones is going to be the best player utd ever had, that was prob a sign he was loosing his marbles and was talked into retirement asap, its astounding how many of their players r not top 4 players now in the last few years I couldn't see how they were picking up leagues so easily but this drop in the level they r at is unbelievable jeff.

Either Fellaini getting laid out by Stevie, or when he went through Jones during a 50-50 challenge at the beginning of the match. or when Saurez dinked the ball over jones then threw him aside! great save from de gea, but thought our team wanted it far more then united did!

Tommy, Ferguson never could spot a player. I'm delighted to see he can't spot a manager either

Said the football genius who gave us Moyes.

17 Mar 2014 01:41:01
Hi all eds and reds today was simply fantastic no need for more elaboration, ed001 I am sure you watched what did you think?
Hibsylfc

{Ed001's Note - as I said earlier, I was too swept up in enjoyment to actually watch the game critically. With my family visiting, it turned into a party here due to the game!}

17 Mar 2014 00:12:42
Was the Sturridge pen a pen? lol.

Be honest Gent's.

(My opinion is, well it was only against Manchester United so definitely a pen, lol)

Clear dive for me (hate to say it). But Rooney tried the same at the other end and Sturridge was fouled 5 mins later by Carrick and that was a clear penalty. Swings and roundabouts I guess but the Mancs can't really complain as they had their cheeks spanked for 90 minutes regardless

Nah, it was a dive (or, more politely, he went to ground to protect himself from contact that never came). Although to be fair he might have gotten a pen a few minutes later anyway if that one hadn't been awarded.

ManU were awful anyway, so can't expect they have much to complain about. 1 shot on goal says a lot really. No idea why Moyes insists on playing such a shambolic lineup. They have 0 creativity and never play Kagawa which make no sense at all. Oh well, good for us Moyes is a football genius.

Also, that was a beauty of a hit by Rosicky. Easily goal of the weekend for me. Bit of a dodgy game overall for you lot, but 3 points in the end I suppose is all that matters.

Not for me it wasn't; having said that Suarez should've had one in the 1st half and Sturridge did have a legitimate claim for one.

We could've had one against us as well; although Johnson's hand wasn't such an exagerated movement as Rafaels was.

Looked like a clera dive, but I don't think Sturridge appealed for penalty, he in-fact walked away from the spot.

There was MINIMAL contact, tiniest clip at the back but Sturridge went down too easy, at live speed though it looked as though Vidic got him though hence the pen and red

It was a dive.

17 Mar 2014 07:52:34
Fair point that he didn't try and claim the penalty, remember Fowler?
I think he should have stayed on his feet and tried to score, but as mentioned, he could and should have had a 4th, so swings and roundabouts.

Think you're missing the point that it was an awful attempt by vidic to get the ball, he made no contact with the ball and ok Sturridge went over easily but Gerrard obviously being the great man he is, put it against the post as he knew it wuldnt be right ;)

Gary neviles comments says it all u go to ground like that vidic u get every thing u deseve and to be fair gn he talks about Liverpool very well

Doesn`t make it any less a dive and a stupid one at that, mike g. It was embarassing to watch and he should stop doing that ASAP.