Liverpool Banter Archive May 17 2012

 

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17 May 2012 23:37:14
Big mistake getting rid of kenny
The soul of the club gone again
Whoever comes in they have to be a winner elsewhere
Check the track record
No relegation scrappers like martinez please
Klopp maybe
Other winners please

 

 

17 May 2012 23:36:01
Wigan's Whelan in the Guardian today: "We played there [at Liverpool] about two months ago. There's no heart at the club . . . I mentioned that to Roberto."

Setting aside the blame game, it appears to have been obvious to neutrals that a change needed to be made.

Unfortunately for Martinez, it appears the knives are out for him already.

The irony would be that, after appointing Kenny to appease the fans, the owners now appoint someone with an eye to appease the fans who are irate that Kenny has been sacked.

Whelan has a severe case of "little man syndrome".

Every time he opens his mouth I cringe.

LIVERPRES

 

 

17 May 2012 23:34:00
Plssssssssssssssssssssss plsssssssssssssssss not Martinez. Who are FSG listening to? this could kill our club. Absolutely no pedigree as a mgr, no previous success to speak of, very

experienced at avoiding delegation.
God help us plssssssssssssssssssss.
I am crying and in pain if this is reality.
Red first & last

So who the f**k do you want!?
Ffs, why is nobody good enough for Liverpool?
Look at us, what do we need? I doubt there are many that could answer that, but given that most of us have a very cursory knowledge of all the potential managers, I am willing to place my trust in the owners and their advisors. They have a much larger stake in the success of the club than any of us, and, while you may not agree with their advisors, I can guarantee they are not idiots.
So let's all take a deep breath and consider whether we want to continue destabilising the efforts in hand, or watch with great interest and provide constructive feedback if we have any.

 

 

17 May 2012 23:33:08
Spaces in squad

Gk 1
Lb 1
Rw 1
Dm 2
Lw 2
Str 2

70m

Sell Suarez 35m
Other sidles 10m
Budget 30m
Total 75m

Cp

More like:
1 cdm
1 rw
1 lw
2 st

players not needed 20m
30m trnasfer kitty 50m doesnt include suarez if sold

Sell suarez ? our best and most creative player ,and proven in the EPL , sounds like a giant leap back to me.

More importantly we need:

CEO - 1
DoF - 1
Manager - 1

 

 

17 May 2012 23:31:47
I've spent most of last night and today reading up on all the runners and riders that are up for the job.
I have decided that inexperienced or not BRENDAN RODGERS is the man I want.
I've watched countless interviews and press conferences, and have been struck by Rodgers football brain and methodology.
I like Martinez the man, but have doubts about his leadership qualities, aswell as his tactical nous.
I am convinced, that we should go for Rodgers now, before someone else takes the plunge and reaps the rewards of possibly the next great British manager, strong minded enough to build a dynasty at a club which deserves one.

JW Henry

I agree he was just so good at reading !!!

Thank you for that. It's a bit of a jewel in a tirade of bile.
I seem to remember that it has often been said that he inherited a Martinez squad and that has been the foundation of his success.
Do you think this is an unfortunate coincidence (for him in respect of doubts surrounding his reputation) and that he has the ability to realise his own vision of a team?

 

 

17 May 2012 23:31:06
My main worry with the owners is that they seem to be struggling to understand what Liverpool Football Club is actually about, they talk well, but haven't backed up what they have said yet and have gone completly against the Liverpool way that they said they'd follow. I trust that they want success but in order for them to achieve success they need to understand the club and I'm not sure that they do.They seem to spend very little time over here which doesn't help, and we don't actually know all that much about them, other than that they're successful buisness men and ruthless too. We then had 'the handshake' which if Henry did on purpose shown a complete lack of respect to a Liverpool legend and that isn't on. They have got a lot to prove, let's hope they do, we need them to. I'm still hopeful that they are good owners but this summer will tell us a lot about their plans for this football club.
JFT96
Smithy

On the contrary, the hiring of Kenny indicates to me that they know exactly what the club is about. The retro shirt with the Liverbird they just commissioned indicates that also. Not to mention the prolonged effort to redevelop Anfield.

Did Moores or Parry ever consider doing these things?

And most of our fans have never been to Anfield, or even Britain probably. Do they, then, all know nothing about the club?

 

 

17 May 2012 23:28:57
We will sell Suarez for £35m. Add this to sales of about £10m + £30 m budget = £75m

Could this buy a top 4 SQUAD?

Reina or new keeper
Johnson Kelly
Skytrl Coates
Agger carra

 

 

17 May 2012 23:28:54
Macca eds and all,

WE each have our views on what's ideal for us and what will give us rapid successes in the league, but which I don't mean winning (although we should be competing) but CL QUALIFICATION 4 seasons our of 6.

These guys are far from the muppets we had before - they are considering a 'package' to deliver 'their' first true appointment and it won't come without several parts in addition to the managers credentials, take Martinez, if he brought Moses and Diame at reasonable price it might well have some additional value,...

My point - although it will get buried amongst all the others lol - will be that a full value judgement will be being made, and the magic ingredient is the advisor / council they are taking.

The future is brighter than we think, these guys have a plan - KK for a lifetime, LFC for all time

Suffolk'n Red

 

 

17 May 2012 23:26:42
I saw one of the Ed's suggest our owners have some sort of internet monitoring team to gauge the fans feelings on various forums. Suggestion of my own would be for the Ed's (if this isnt too much work, might even save posting alot of posts) is to create a poll. E.g. List of potential managers? At least we would all be able to see who everybody wants/does not want... and maybe even this supposed forum monitors too...

My choice would, without a doubt be Bielsa.

Thanks, Strabs {Ed001's Note - trouble is that it would get hijacked by other clubs' fans.}

 

 

17 May 2012 23:20:20
I think Martinez may not be a bad choice. His teams play attacking, pressing football. You have to learn the ropes somewhere. Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think Mourinho was ever a top player (did he ever play football?). He was a scholar of the game. Martinez has worked his way up in the leagues, I would back him if given the chance. He is ambitious and I think brave enough to knock some noses out of joint if need be. What he needs is our support. We have no God given right to be in the top 4. We fans must stick with whoever is chosen in bad times too, and not hound the manager out.

BTW a big NO to AVB, he proved he couldn't quite cut it in the Premier League. Under him Chelsea's defence was a shambles - there was no plan B. The Mancs/Chavs will piss themselves laughing if we employ him.

MidlandRed

 

 

17 May 2012 23:20:17
Is there a reason no one is mentioning Laudrup? Perfect fit for us.

 

 

17 May 2012 23:20:11
i would like to see RAFA or AVB at liverpool, but if we cant have them forget martinez and rogers. A perfect manager would be edoo1 or edoo2, they no now what the fans want! come on ed001 and edoo2 speak to FSG. {Ed001's Note - makes me wish I had got my coaching badges when I had the chance now, if Martinez is being spoken to, they obviously aren't all that choosy!}

A bit of venom in that Ed although I have to admit I'm inclined to agree with you. Good manager but only for a small club no offence to Wigan and their supporter {Ed001's Note - I don't think he is a good manager for Wigan, he will take them down eventually. They would be midtable with a good manager.}

 

 

17 May 2012 23:18:40
i dont understand why all of a sudden there is a mass amount of animosity towards fsg and how they are ruining us already! nobody knows who we are going for as manager yet, we have made approaches for more than one manager so its all conjecture at the minute! but if you look at who they are trying to get in as CEO and DOF then its pretty obvious they arent messing around, just because names of a lesser stature are being banded around for the gaffers job doesnt mean they are going to get it! lets just wait and stop trying to guess as its pointless! scousedel

 

 

17 May 2012 23:18:27
Really really sad King Kenny sacked. There was absolutely no need for it. I really believe that had been given even one more year, and not been given even a penny to spend in the summer, the current squad would finish higher up the table next season. Sure, we've had some bad results, and not scored enough - but he got us playing attacking football and we weren't far off in may games - just a bit of tweaking needed and all the squad another year older and wiser and experienced. BUT, FSG obviously thought different..... thing is, we're Liverpool - the greatest team with the greatest history. We need the "Liverpool way" back. Kenny brought that - now its gone again. We don't need big name European so-called tactical geniuses. Look where the tactical geniuses Houllier and Benitez did to us - the most boring, negative football seen at Anfield! For those who criticise Kenny's buys - look at the hundreds of useless dross players that Benitez wasted a fortune on - Nunez, Padelli, Pellegrino, Pennant, Josemi, Dossena, Degen, Zenden, Palletta, just to name a few! To finish, my choice would be to bring in John Toshack. The man has great experience at top level, been successful wherever he's been - remember the awesome job he did with Real Sociedad when he was only allowed to play Basque players? Or taking Swansea up from the bottom of the league to the top in straight seasons? Even with Wales - a small young squad, results didn't go for him, but he got them playing nice football and brought the youngsters along. He's also a Liverpool legend - a Shankly boy with the bootrom ethos. Couldn't be any worse than AVB anyway! If not, then my cjhoice is Brendan Rodgers - he worked with Mourinho at Chelsea - much better choice than Martinez or AVB - what's Martinez done apart from get moved on at Swawnsea and kept up Wigan by the skin of his teeth a few times?? Even worse a record than Hodgson - and we didn't want him!! So why on earth would we want Martinez?!

 

 

17 May 2012 23:15:52
Eds,

Read earlier posts on Macca, some suggesting Jason mcateer, Steve mac & Gary mac.

What about Terry McDermott? Macca has always come across as very articulate.

Dirks Engine Room {Ed001's Note - nope sorry.}

I think its John Scales..

Live-On-Pool

 

 

17 May 2012 23:14:52
New manager

Martinez is a nah he win 4 game out of his first 29.
Rafa is tactically good ( apart from the constant tinkering) but is too much of a troublemaker.
Klopp is great ( best option in my opinion) but he's just won the bunderliga with Borussia Dortmund, has a great side, why would he take the hard work Liverpool job.
Rogers is unproven and would probably be a step back

So where dies that leave us?

Sanchez?
Any hoo let me know what you think?

By
IzRightkidda - Dalid an dat

 

 

17 May 2012 23:09:21
Surely the vacancies above the managers role need to filled before Kenny's replacement is appointed. Especially a new Director of Football as he would be involved in finding a new manager.
I'm very surprised Ian Ayre is still at the club, not only at the club but also giving exclusive interviews to Sly Sports which then ends up on the clubs official website.

Whoever the owners appoint in the coming weeks they need to get it right this time or this great club could very easily slip into mid table mediocrity. I really don't see Roberto Martinez as the man to take Liverpool forward, if anything it would be another appointment like Roy Hodgson along the lines of "he's done well on a budget imagine what he'll do here".
My choice would be Manuel Pellegrini but he doesn't seem to be in the running, perhaps he would take to much persuading to leave the unlimited wealth he has available at Malaga.

always a red

We're already in midtable mediocrity , been there for 3 years now off which dalglish was manager for half that time so cant see us getting much worse !!!!!

 

 

17 May 2012 23:01:09
Hi Eds do you think Laudrup would make the shortlist for candidates this time around to be interviewed?
young, talented and could identify and attract top players? the names being mentioned so far seems like we are not being very creative with our ideas for a new boss {Ed001's Note - I think it would be remiss of the owners to not give him an interview. It would show a stunning lack of knowledge of football to interview Martinez and leave out Laudrup.}

Here's hoping the interview process shows how amazing Laudrup could be for Liverpool

 

 

17 May 2012 23:02:41
FSG must have some external "consultant" advising them

someone has suggested David Dein

does this have any legs?

My guess is that it is a United fan given we are interviewing Martinez.

LIVERPRES

 

 

17 May 2012 22:59:10
Thought I'd try and get away from all the LFC stuff for a bit and tuned into Newsnight...Kelvin 8loody Mackenzie on it!

dmedly

When it rains, it pours

 

 

17 May 2012 22:59:07
well eds / Macca would you have AVB or Martinez and why ?

Guinnessred8

AVB hands down. Why? Because he's used to being at "high profile" clubs so he can handle the pressure.

He's used to the winning mentality which Martinez is not.

He will be able to attract a "higher standard" of player than Martinez.

No disrespect to Martinez but i dont think he deserves the Liverpool Job.

Yeah, that's why he got sacked.
A Chelsea reject.

 

 

17 May 2012 22:58:59
Right now, with KK gone (the right decision IMO) we need someone who's going to come in and lift our spirits.

There are only a few out there who would actually do that, with the level of expectations at our great club.

I for one am all for giving people a chance but the state we're in, on and off the field, we need a 'named' manager to come in and take all the heat out of the situation. Someone who's actually won something rather than potential.

Bielsa wud be great but would take time to adjust, deschamp/ Klopp the same.

Rodgers, Martinez and lambert, all play good footy but im sure you'll all agree its would be very underwhelming appointnent and raise the pressure stakes for FSG before a balls been kicked. I could see another AvB happening if results don't go our way.

Which leads me to AvB. I really think this guys got what it takes but i think its too soon after the Chavski debacle. He needs to rebuild himself, abroad, then come again for a job in PL.

Which then leaves only 2..Mourinho and Rafa.
Mourinho is not going to leave an open cheque book and all those players for us, leaving Rafa.

And in the current situation he is EXACTLY what we need. Firstly
He won't need any time to get his feet under the table, his slippers are probably still there!

He knows most of the team as he bought them so no issues there (reina, jonno, agger, skrtl, Lucas, kuyt) these guys are pretty much the backbone. Add Stevie G, Suarez (if he's not sold) Adam, downing, Carroll, plus 3-4 quality additions you've got the foundations. I believe Rafa would get more out of this group than KK as his tactical nous is far superior. Plus I think he will have a distinct advantage managing one Luis Suarez - language!

As for his style of play being negative/defensive.. I always remember Valencia coming over in 2003 pre season and wupping us all over the place. I really believe this break will have done him good, time to reflect and most importantly he'll be re-invigorated. Plus I think he'd do it for next to nothing, he loves us that much... It's not like he needs it after the last 2 compo's is it!

So with all this talk of short lists etc and Martinez being on it, it crossed my mind that it may not actually be for the main job, but actually as assistant manager to Rafa.

It's out there folks I know but rafa always talked highly of RM, so why not?
Rafa can handle the media, gets a prem experienced colleague and Martinez can be eased in without the massive pressure on his shoulders alone.

I live in hope, and that is FSG make the right choice for the sake of all concerned...especially US..the Fans!

Sinner21

Good post lad!

MidlandRed

I highly doubt it, Martinez is making quite a name for himself and being an AM would be a step down. Rafa also hated having anyone else in control of team affairs so can't see it happening myself

Red Ollie

 

 

17 May 2012 22:56:49
We already said:If you have to go, is go now ! Good-bye Mr Henry and take your second class attitude with you.
Good-bye, don't forget to shut the door you PC fool.

No Wonder you didn't put your name to that load of Tripe!!!

Lyndon

 

 

17 May 2012 22:54:28
i dont see martinez, rodgers, rafa coming to manage liverpool....they are backups or smoke screens to keep the press occupied...guardiola is a no go too he wants a year out of football i heard cos his wife told him to leave barca or she leaves him.

 

 

17 May 2012 22:51:51
Ed22 is the b*llox - proactive with respones, reasoning behind his responses - top Ed - keep up the good work!!

Have a great evening all

Cheers

Jamie {Ed001's Note - oh god, now he won't be able to get his head through the door!}

 

 

17 May 2012 22:51:15
For me I think Paul Lambert would be a far better bet than Martinez. I know Lambert doesn't have much experience but the same could be said for AVB and look what he did at porto. personally speaking I think Paul Lambert has done a fantastic job with Norwich City. taking them from division one, championship and to a very respectful mid table position in the Premiership. I think this guy has all the makings of a great manager. He also fits the bill for what LFC are looking for he's young and ambitious. For the life of me I can't see why Martinez would even be considered for the job. He failed to get Swansea promoted and he has consistently kept Wigan in the bottom 5 of the prem year on year. OK he hasn't been able to spend money, but that could be said for many managers. He wouldn't cost the club an arm and a leg and has proven he can do a good job with a very low budget.

Elmo96
LFC Forever

We need to be aiming higher than paul lambert and roberto. we can not afford to take risks anymore otherwise we will be the next aston villa.

 

 

17 May 2012 22:50:55
Guys + Gals, what we need to remember is that THIS has to be the right decision for FSG.

This is their moment to take their business forward. They want to hire a manager that will deliver success on and off the pitch. They need the success to be able to generate return on investment.

Now to my point, how many times have FSG spoken to Martinez since they have took over...zero i would guess at. They will have to talk to various candidates to get the right guy in. This is all part of the process.

My guessing is that Martinez is on a list of five or six but want to speak to him as Villa are also looking at him. IF Martinez is the right guy then the last thing they want to do is miss out on him to Villa.

I know the FA only interviewed Roy for the England managers job but FSG will need to take a different approach due to the money they have invested in the club.

If Martinez is the right guy for FSG then I will support him to the hilt. But at this stage WHO KNOWS!!

misschinandlerbong

 

 

17 May 2012 22:50:54
We are f***ed if we get martinaz another fergie bum chum.
Its funny how ayre is saying that henry is consulting football people who is he consulting exactly? Fergie?
The owners are doing what fergie wants he wanted shot of the king they've done that, red nose wants suarez gone and he will get that as well

Love liverpool

Wazaldinho7

My guess is you don't sleep a lot with that level of paranoia mate?

LIVERPRES

Get out much?

Matinez defended rafa when whiskey nose and his pals were giving off

What a pile of rubbish.. martinez was the only manager to back rafas facts rant... lets give the new manager a chance h?
itsnotrocketscience

 

 

17 May 2012 22:50:24
if it turns out to be martinez i would be happy. and to all the people who say he lacks experience. king kenny got his first managers job were?? yeah you guest it and were was his experience!! a true red gives his whole support behind any manager

Whoever gets the job i will back 100% YNWA

Guinnessred8

 

 

17 May 2012 22:46:20
If were trying to copy the barcelona model with D.O.F etc why not promote someone within like borrell or clarke surely they would be better than u know who

 

 

17 May 2012 22:46:18
Eds get ready for your lives to get a lot more annoying...

The Times and Daily Mail back pages both suggesting Liverpool are interested in Pep Guardiola...

KKM... {Ed001's Note - both are just rags.}

Slightly more respectable Guardian also reporting it now...

KKM...

That is what people want to hear so will obviously buy them

Of course we're an interested! I don't think he'll come though.

 

 

17 May 2012 22:44:43
I just want to see MACCA keep up the good work, i do not understand why some people like to attack this gentleman, he is always doing his best to keep us informed and i do appreciate it. losing KK really hurts, but some times we need to do away with emotions and think of it from business point of view, a club that makes money is a successful club and the owners just want to make sure that happens and KK will always be our icon and in our hearts.

 

 

17 May 2012 22:44:25
Hi All,would a team of Rafa as D.O.F. and Martinez as manager be acceptable to most supporters ,personally think it a good combination if it was possible.

 

 

17 May 2012 22:42:54
so is it feasible that we could soon have
Dein - ceo
Begiristain - dof


This with Ian ayre would make us in a great position off the field , Just hope we get the management team as promising as well

Guinnessred8 {Ed001's Note - how would keeping Ayre put us in a great position? I am sorry but he seems a lovely fella, but what has he done in his role as MD to suggest he has a clue? He provided absolutely no leadership whatsoever last season.}

Ed001 i bow to your greater knowledge on Ian Ayre , i am going by what i see and thought he was doing a good job ie shirt deals etc but i if you say otherwise then he can go as well lol !! Guinnessred8 {Ed001's Note - he is MD, that is a Commercial Director's role! I agree he is doing well on the commercial side, so demote him to that role, but as MD he has been nothing short of a disaster. His interview on Sly Sports was possibly the worst thing he could have done, it shows just how out of his depth he is.}

Ayre should never have got the job. He should have stayed commercial director and Brian Barwick should have been MD.

That's what I thought before Ayre got the job.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Ian Ayre will have to be forcibly removed from LFC! I think he will be involved with LFC for the foreseeable future, whether in his role as MD or in his previous guise as commercial head.

He is an asset but he is not a leader.

RedSG

Well said ed1 he his nothink but a weasel still got is job though gutted {Ed001's Note - that's a bit harsh! He seems like a really nice bloke and he is good on the commercial side, just out of his depth at MD, he is not a leader.}

 

 

17 May 2012 22:42:14
Firstly, I'd like to start this by saying I have no idea whether Roberto Martinez will be appointed, and I have no idea if he is the best choice for the job. I would, however, like to say that all these people saying "it's a disgrace if they appoint Martinez, how can the manager of Wigan take over at Liverpool, what's he achieved?" etc etc is somewhat short-sighted.

Take a look at the teams that finished above us this season (i'm gonna exclude Man City due to the money spent at the "hollywood" feel about the club these days). Alex Ferguson - previously managing Aberdeen. Arsene Wenger - Grampus 8. Harry Redknapp - Portsmouth. Alan Pardew - Southampton. Roberto Di Matteo - WBA. David Moyes - Preston.

Obviously, at the time, Aberdeen were a great team, but not a huge team. All the others came from relatively small clubs, and all managers finished above us this season. A good manager is a good manager, whatever club he comes from. To keep Wigan in the PL when the good players have been sold off for big money and replaced with budget players, the majority from the SPL, is no mean feat, and Martinez should be commended on that.

If he's appointed, he'll have my full backing. If it's someone else, they will also have my full backing. I don't for 1 second think the manager situation is happening as haphazardly as it appears to be to the public, and I firmly believe the owners will get the big decisions right in the coming weeks.

Rugby Parker {Ed001's Note - who did Wigan sell? Absolute nonsense to suggest Martinez was having to sell loads of players, that is simply not true. Whelan backed him, the only players they sold were ones Martinez chose to sell.}

Well nzonzi wanted to leave thats all i can think of {Ed001's Note - N'Zogbia you mean right? And that is because that is it.}

He kept Wigan from being relegated - I'm sure he can do the same feat with Liverpool. Doesn't mean, however, that he is capable of a Top 4 finish. I don't see how Martinez would be an improvement on Kenny. Someone enlighten me please.

cozinoz

I wasn't saying Martinez himself had to sell, but you've said Wigan were a mid-table team when he took over, but that was a Wigan team with Valencia, Palacios, N'Zogbia, even Bramble and Kirkland to an extent. It would be harsh to say that the team Martinez has is better than the team he inherited, and money brought in from transfers far exceeds money spent on players brought in.

Rugby Parker

 

 

17 May 2012 22:49:12
With all the comings and goings at the moment where does that leave us regarding transfere budget as paying off all those that leave and the cost of hiring a new manager and dof and doc and possibly CEO is not going to be cheap. Is that why RM and BR are being considered because they won't cost as much as more high profile but more successful managers like klopp or dechamps or even rafa.

 

 

17 May 2012 22:49:00
I had a rant on here early about Martinez about how I thought he or owners would cope with pressure if we lost a few games he would need to get off to a good start or we the fans and media would be calling for his head . I'm sorry for being childish and silly and give him or who ever a far go ov things no matter who it is money and so called big name managers don't mean you get success !!! So I'm 110 % behind who it is as long they try hard same as the players try your best give your best is all any 1 can ask ! Long live the king and let's show the lucky one are full support + the owners are in a better position then me to pick the manager + it's them who will lose millions £ if they get it wrong Lfc linc YNWA kk

 

 

17 May 2012 22:48:55
Im not sure about martinez if you were going to judge him i would say win percentage is a bit low even for wigan, signed rubbish championship players at wigan and just about kept them up. He lost 8 games on the bounce and boyce has been their best player. If you were going to judge him on other things like talking to the media and wearing a quality suit then he would be the best man for the job. I want someone like Klopp but i dont think he would leave the team he is building.

Red raj

 

 

17 May 2012 22:35:27
Why would we be interested in Bielsa? He has not had club success in Europe. Yes Bilbao knocked the Mancs out of one cup, so did we. But they had a worse season than we did. Bilbao were only tenth in Spain. Jarakeda {Ed001's Note - you clearly don't understand football. Bilbao are a team that are expected to struggle every season, relegation is a possibility at the start of each season. Yet Bielsa took them to two cup finals and a mid table finish, with very little spent and a very weak squad. He also had them playing breathtaking football, which included outplaying Barcelona, not defending deep and kicking them like Madrid did, but outplaying them. The man is a genius and you really have no idea about football if you don't see it.}

Always respect your opinion Ed001, and agree I am no football expert, but I don't buy that. Bilbao have been mid table or better for years, he hasn't done any better than his predecessors. Smells like MOTD fever to me. Jarakeda

Not to mention he made Chile into one of the most breathtaking, eye-catching teams. The man works miracles and I'd love him at the pool

 

 

17 May 2012 22:29:57
Everyone needs to chill out. I am very happy with FSG. They are analysing situations and being decisive. Ultimately as hard as it is Kenny had to go, 8th isn't good enough.
Personally Martinez isn't my choice, but I'll be honest Rafa Benitez certainly isn't, I'd like Klopp or AVB. However at the end of the day we all have different opinions and have got to stop complaining and get behind the owners and new manager whoever it may be, as Kenny said!
The owners haven't appointed Martinez yet, he is one of many we will look at, its just the others are quiet. This one is only known because Dave Whelan is a nice guy but has a habit of opening his mouth a little too much.
So lets get behind the team and support the chairmen. Don't be getting on their backs about an appointment they haven't even made yet. We are undergoing massive restructuring. Give the owners time to make their appointments then a year or two down the line look and see if its allowed us to make progress.
So wait till all decisions announced then lets show them the support the Kop is known for, whoever it is! (I will even for Rafa and I really dont want it to be him!)
YNWA

CHickey.

I agree 110% I didn't early in shock I think but yes get behind them not put road block up and hope to crash just to say I told you so no matter wot we support Liverpool Fc no matter who in charge if they give 100% keep the faith YNWA all lfc

 

 

17 May 2012 22:28:27
Poor Blokes not even got job Yet.
But he's being Abused already!!

Could it be that he'd be more of a coach
With a high Profile director of football above.
Which seems to be the way the owners want to go!!

Lyndon

 

 

17 May 2012 22:25:45
Hi Ed's
Looks like Martinez is the choice!
Can u tell me if managers from smaller teams
Have any connections with top players?
Or will we bring in mediocre players again?

If its all true i don't believe liverpool will be getting Diame.

 

 

17 May 2012 22:24:11
Eds I really don't have a clue why a single person on this site would want Rafa back, yes the team may have won a CL in 05 and the FA cup in 06 but for 1, the champions league squad was mostly Houlliers and 2, not a single person on here can deny that Steven Gerrard is the absolute main reason for both trophies. In my opinion Rafa ruined this club, buying sheer waste like Dossena for 8m as an example, making Alonso want to leave, Josemi, Degen and the list goes on and on......he almost bankrupt the club and if I were in charge of the club I'd try and get him banned from the city. When he left he donated a fair bit of money to the Hillsborough fund in fairness to the man but he robbed what like 5m off the club in compensation for leaving? So much for loving Liverpool FC! The man is a disgrace!

The poor signings were a case of the fact he couldnt get the signings he wanted due to the owners.

The champions league team was bound to be mostly houillers given the fact it was his second year at the club Under Rafa we were ranked no.1 club in the world at one point. He had a low net spending are you telling me you wouldnt have tried to get the best deal for yourself when getting fired owners are to blame not rafa bring him back id say

 

 

17 May 2012 22:37:55
anyone else get the feeling it would be so much easier to support another team lol

Since when was it supposed to be easy? The true supporters are there through thick and thin, winning and losing, sunny days and storms.

cozinoz

 

 

17 May 2012 22:35:32
Eds

Can you shed any light on this? Liverpool have been saying they are gonna look at TOP DRAW candidates, so that kind of excited fans as I'm glad to see the owners aren't shying away from the fact we are LFC and not the side, and we should be going for a higher class candidate (some fans would sooner believe we're only good to attract the likes of Iain Dowie, as they like to undermine and devalue us for some inane reason) anyway, I digress..

Have the owners not learned from the situation with Roy, whilst he was at Fulham, we approached and appointed a manager who was doing well with a lesser team, but that same man isn't competing for championships, being happy a point away to wolves, doesn't win you championships or at least challenge for them or at least, be In the top 4...so why oh why are we going down the same road again..I like Martinez as a man (what I have seen of him) and as a manager but not as a Liverpool manager - why can't they stick to the Top Draw remit?

Again Eds, can you shed any light?

Cheers {Ed001's Note - Martinez is just one of a number of managers who will be interviewed for the post.}

 

 

17 May 2012 22:34:43
FSG - in the name of god, go now !

Fickle!!!

 

 

17 May 2012 22:34:33
Who does not want martinez? Who wants to protest tommorow outside anfield? I am being serious what a shocking mess swapping king for martinez are u having a laugh low budget manager. What top player wants to play for him hes a novody to top european players, sad times.

Dont start that crap just get behind the club and whoever is appointed.
k-h

 

 

17 May 2012 22:34:28
any real way of getting in contact with the owners ed? tell him how unhappy we are? {Ed022's Note - Believe it or not but the owners actually have a team that will monitor websites like this in order to gain the fans opinions etc. So ranting on here could potentially help if it helps?}

Sweet well what the hell here goes.

Dear John Henry Ill start on a positive by saying cheers for buying the club from the stupid ex cowboys.
However in the course of your reign we have seen little leadership.
There is now updates on the stadium.
You are trying to implement a coaching system that doesnt work in england with the D.O.F
You are hypocritical with the comments about daglish saying he wasnt the manager you orginally wanted with a preference of a young manager being wanted when hiring KK at the end of his interim reign you didnt have to offer him a contract.
Your Constant Sackings are bringing instability to the club especially with the suarez affair not firing the main culprit the M.D ayre.
You have been disrepscetfal in the way u got rid of our club legend KK (even if it was proabably neccessary)
And now you are making rash decisions hiring managers who have no experience and quite frankly dont have the callibre to manage our club.
So take longer over recuitment of staff
Make an annoucement of the palns for the expansion/new stadium and always give large amounts for transfer funds
Hows that I miss anything ed lol
Otheriwse Well have a fan club takeover 100,000 shares 4grand each each fan would be joint owner with 0.01% of the club lol could happen ;)

Dear John Henry! With the sudden departure of our previous manager you have a very big descion to make! With all the manager's name's being thrown in the hat there is only one name that you should consider and that is Rafael Benitez! Martinez,Rodger's and Lambert are novice's compared to Benitez! With the right backing he will take us back to where we all want to be! that's why i implore you to make Rafael Benitez our manager! He is a safe pair of hand's! All the rest being considered will be a huge gamble! Rafa won't! {Ed001's Note - he would be a gamble to my mind, he failed once.}

Maybe wait to see who our next manager is before you criticise. If its Klopp, you're going to look like a right tool

cozinoz

Where did Rafa fail Ed001? he had us in the CL 5time's out of 6 with two final's winning 1 an fa cup 2nd in the league with our highest point's tally ever! when he was manager we were ranked number 1 team in Europe! that being under the financial restriction's of itchy and scratrchy! and cozinoz i'm not criticising those manager's i'm just stating as Rafa would say a FACT! he'd be a lot less of a gamble than the manager's that have been mentioned! {Ed001's Note - he failed because he was brought in to win the league and he had a five year plan to do so. He didn't win it, so he failed.}

I disagree Ed001, i don't believe Rafa failed, he did a very good job consider the 2 person owners we had. I would love to see him and be given the proper support. bring RAFA BACK.

Finesse-Seychelles {Ed001's Note - how can you disagree with that? He, by his own admission, was brought in to win the Premier League within his 5 year plan. He didn't win the Premier League in 6 years. Quite clearly that is a failure.}

 

 

17 May 2012 22:32:42
Fenway sports group out!
Helped us through but no martinez we want avb avb avb

Are you a mug or wat? FSG out NO CHANCE yes they sacked kenny because they believe was the right thing to do but dont forget if they hadnt have saved us when they did we would be in the championship now because of them other two coyboys. and as for avb why do we want a manager that cant change his tactics when they are not working would be awful

 

 

17 May 2012 22:31:47
This is not a rumor but a personal impression ... I would be very disappointed if Martinez gets the job, he is clearly a second tier coach and we are a first tier team!

 

 

17 May 2012 22:30:31
was just wondering eds...if liverpool speak with martinez as looks likely,does that mean he is the preferred canidate surely he wouldnt speak to them if he wasnt confident of being offered the job?would it not be a very public rejection if were not offered the position..how would he then return to wigan..thank you
rosred {Ed022's Note - This has been covered intensely mate, but it just means Martinez is a candidate for now.}

 

 

17 May 2012 22:30:31
Roberto Martinez.

On the up side; Intelligent, charismatic, superb football knowledge, great tactician, sensible, keeps calm under pressure, level headed, good looking, can see potential, excellent leader, realistic expectations, doesn't live in the past, but lives for the future.

On the down side; He will have nothing in common with Liverpool supporters!

What could possibly go wrong!

Eric Banterna x

Hi Eric
Was trying to find a mini replica of Sergio Aguero to send you lot as a reminder that arrogance doesn't win you trophies.

cozinoz

 

 

17 May 2012 22:23:03
I'm a red through n through and will support my whoever is the manager.
Personal view is Martinez is a massive step down from Dalglish and probably the equal to Hodgson. However, Martinez might surprise us all and actually be a hit.
Let's just hope he continues with attacking football rather than the boring chess defensive game.
I can only presume Martinez is the from runner because of his age, low wage and is more the yes man.
I don't know Martinez personally and maybe I'm wrong.
Whoever it is will get my full support because I love this club.

Physic red

Physic red mate if martinez is our manager then we should forget top 4 next season and this will show our so-called owners ambition or they want to make us laughing-stock in world football. And. Still waiting fot stadium news or they are another hicks and gillet we fans shouldn't forget that they bought our club on peanuts no world class players coz of wages our net spend 30/40 million

 

 

17 May 2012 22:22:19
The tide against FSG is growing.
Kenny removed and some 3rd rate manager proposed.
They are not serious and must be removed. Rafa would be a safe pair of hands.
These FSG clowns are out of their depth. What does a bunch of yanks know about football? The US is trillions in debt and the dollar will crash. Why do we need yesterday's people ?
Stupid, indebted and clueless about football.
Yesterday's people. Henry you haven't a clue. Perhaps the second great depression, just might, wake you up ?

The tide is turning ? Do me a favour mate! I think they might have a vested interest in us doing well ie making some money! Let's not all jump on a band wagon because they may have the balls to try something different.

Mike

Fans are very fickle, let's wait and see...we may be pleasantly surprised!

dmedl

You feelin ok ?

Seems to be a FSGvirus knockin about !

Honestly some people think havin a minor cold is better than a dose of crabs.

It's a lot easier to get over a cold.... and no I've never had crabs.

Mr Slonk The Red

YNWA

 

 

17 May 2012 22:19:35
Maybe it's Pep Segura for DoF..?

dmedly

 

 

17 May 2012 22:17:12
What do you make of the JWH / Kenny non-handshake after the cup final now ?
It seems as if it was pretty much sorted back then..
The Real KB

We'll never know, maybe this is one for the conspiracy page?

dmedly

If it was done intentionally then it shows what a classy guy Henry really is.


The Irish Rover

In hindsight, John Henry looked relieved we didn't win ? It would have been tougher to sack Kenny.
Red Derry

 

 

17 May 2012 22:16:28
If Roberto Martinez gets the job, I for one will be happy.

Thanks roberto

Thanks Mrs Martinez.

Thanks for your thoughts Roberto!!

Ok Roberto Martinez, we know its you, thank you for your comment.

Finesse-Seychelles

 

 

17 May 2012 22:15:58
Liverpool need to aim high when choosing a new manager why pay 20 million for certain players who are not proven and then set a cap of 4 million per year for a manager (not sure how reliable that figure is) we need a positive statement of intent by going after the best there is available and if that means turning heads with the cheque book then do it .I'll buy two season tickets next year just to help out haha. With all due respect for Martinez and rodgers they're just not high profile enough to attract the best players and lets face it Liverpool need all Tue help they can get attracting the best
Lucky the red

Manager is far more important than any one player. Makes sense that manager is highest paid individual at club, by far if need be.

If we are willing to blow 35 million plus wages on a player, money should be no object in hiring manager.

 

 

17 May 2012 22:15:52
Hi Eds
Is Rafa Even On the Shortlist For the Managers Position-(seems like avb was the faviourate and now martinez)

thanks
stewart

 

 

17 May 2012 22:15:40
the 2 names that keep coming up an one of them seems to be confirmed to be in some sort of talks with liverpool is martinez the other young manager is avb.both have limted experiance.avb has been a manager for 2 and a half years and never played football pro!are fsg really concidering taking a massive risk with are club?do these 2 lads know anymore about football or liverpool fc club than jamie carrahger who they will be managing or steven gerrard for that matter?nows is not the time for gambles.both could be good managers oneday not sure are club should be thier learning ground!bring back rafa or get louie van gaal both have experiance both demand respect from the dressing room both are winners an also dont have a club!
deano mcc

 

 

17 May 2012 22:14:51
HEY LFC FANS....

in my opinion................CV WISE........only rafa benitez can improve our team at the moment....he knows the league and knows about quality players around, and knows how to play in europe.

whereas martinez....just has some experience in the league.......

regardless of whether i like any of the candidates.........rafas cv fills all the criteria.......so i agree with people that i am really suprised we are even considering martinez........i dont know how he could help us in europe.........or have the eye of top quality players...

oh well..i guess we all have to just live by what the owners do

red lobster

Ranieri would be better than Martinez, Capello is unemployed, but we really need a Hiddink, Ancelotti, Rijkaard or Laudrup type.

 

 

17 May 2012 22:14:12
If martinez is in fact installed as the new manager do you think he will hang onto Suarez. Heard that FSG want him out

 

 

17 May 2012 22:10:34
It is clear that the vast majority want rafa back so why do those in the minority act like only they can be right?

Dont go backwards, we need some new blood with a lot of experience.

 

 

17 May 2012 22:10:30
I am still confident AVB will be named new manager of Liverpool by Monday, Roberto Martinez need permission to speak to Liverpool regardless, it doesn't mean he is going to be manager.

Regards,
Daniel Hanwell

 

 

17 May 2012 22:09:19
FSG out now !
Martinez ?
Don't make me laugh.
Amateurs !

Behave yourself , if it wasnt for them we'd be bankrupt and some where in the championship!!!

 

 

17 May 2012 22:09:07
I truly hope this is all rumours about martinez becoming our manager, because it really means the owners are in the dark when it comes to football. I am not saying get guardiola but certainly not a manager with less of a personality and managerial experience than him or the likes of him. Liverpool are a very big club, we need someone who is experienced at this high level, who has been in a pressure cooker environment like it can become at the top flight.
Getting a manager who has struggled to keep his team in the prem is a huge mistake and 300 steps back.
hibsylfc

 

 

17 May 2012 22:08:46
Ed, do you think it's possible that Martinez may be offered an assistant role? Just thinking out loud here, but if the Txiki Begiristain rumours are true, could Martinez be brought in to learn from someone else, before being promoted from within when that manager calls it a day. Much like Tito Vilanova taking up the reins at Barca from Guardiola, and the Liverpool way of old? I certainly prefer that idea to Martinez being named manager straight away anyway. {Ed002's Note - No.}

 

 

17 May 2012 22:07:32
In my eyes I think we need to appoint a new CEO first then a DOF before appointing a manager, I think a DOF should have some say in who will be appointed as manager, as they will be working closely together.

I know there are rumours going around about Tixiki I would like to think they are true, but who knows.

SA

 

 

17 May 2012 22:02:22
Well Ed001 has got me worried about Martinez lol. Thanks for the insight into him though mate, certainly has changed my view on him. Never anywhere near my first choice but if he comes in we all have to support him. Is it me or does this all feel very rushed? The club should be taking their time and making the correct decision. I would have brought in a DoF before the manger as well, the owners seem to be getting some very poor advice which could cost the club for years to come.
JFT96
Smithy

Are we sure all 3 arent in place it wud make sense for them looking for a young manager because if all is to be beleived he wud be over players on pitch and not transfers

 

 

17 May 2012 22:04:55
I hope Liverpool bring in avb and martinez two young amazing managers working together

 

 

17 May 2012 22:04:19
I have posted on this site a few times in relation to transfers however I am a liverpool fan and supporter and wish to say that the person who posted a reply boycott the new shirts and make FSG listen must be a manc. We need to unite as fans and support whoever comes in and give them time. I am a greatsupporter of kenny and think he should have had another season but he hasnt. We have to move on and forward and not dwell in the past and let it become 26 years with no title like the mancs. we all need to back the players the new manager and whoever else comes in. If it was Gary neville as manager i would back him as long as we were challenging for the title and palying good footbal

Steve

Gary who? Tosser

Agree with everything apart from Geville...
Paul Mc

Ok, is that your Gary?

Finesse-Seychelles

 

 

17 May 2012 22:03:42
heard from a reliable source mourinho is interested in a return to the premiership with liverpool in mind. hope its true

borris

 

 

17 May 2012 22:03:42
Martinez what a mistake that would be! He hasn't win anything and has been battling relaxation for the past 4 seasons. No way bring kenny back any day if there going for him. He's not a big enough manager for Liverpool.

Battling relaxation?
Well thats exactly who w need then, a workaholic lmao
RedSox69

What's that entail pal. Does he fall asleep in the dug out?

Ozone

Maybe he wears a colostomy bag !
Lol.
Best one of the night. Worth reading and getting depressed for, that one.
The Real KB

Battling relaxation? sound like he is fighting a disease. the man is a workaholic, plse Martinez take a brake and relax..lol

Finesse-Seychelles

 

 

17 May 2012 22:02:40
If FSG get Martinez its basically them saying they dont have any more money to invest in the squad and Martinez kept Wigan up with no money i think that is what is appealing to them.
Roy Hodgson appeared to be exactly the same when he was appointed by the other americans, he done well with little or no money at other clubs and then died on his arse at Liverpool.

Spot on. That just about sums up these cheap charletons.

Ozone

Seriously some of you's lot are thick as catmilk. You think the next manager wont have any money to spend?

The owners want us playing at the highest level so whoever they give the job to, once they have finished interviewing ALL potential candidates, their will be money to spend.

Wise up and have faith ffs {Ed022's Note - Spot the word change.}

Is it 'thick' ed ;)

Just jokes, catmilk.

 

 

17 May 2012 22:01:19
Here's my 2 pennies....

Those who have seen my posts will know that I wanted Kenny to stay....but I'm not going to rant, its not worth it!

Just want to say that I love and support you Kenny, keep your head up. Thank you for coming to our aid when we needed it! You will always be King Kenny to me.

As for our new manager.....

NO NO NO to Rafa! No to Martinez, Rodgers and AVB! Especially AVB, I mean come on seriously!

Jose and Pep are not available, so forget them.

My personal choice would be Klopp to be honest!

Also, I really hope we get Luuk De Jong! Obviously, the new manager will have his own targets and choice of player but I feel that if we could get this talented young man it would be a fantastic signing!

Hope your all well otherwise fellow Reds and Eds.

A very saddened K. Bennett {Ed022's Note - I'm not too bad mate, just knackered going through the same crap from some posters lol.}

Lol can imagine Ed022, and the transfer window hasn't even opened yet! Your doing a great job though, I admire and appreciate the dedication in keeping our banter page running :)

Ps, please send my love to Ed002 also

K. Bennett {Ed001's Note - ahem!}

Klopp no chance of getting him. All transfer targets no longer make any sense. Why would they after a sacked team, a new manager will have his own ideas.

What FSG have done is a joke. They clear don't understand the club or football generally. This has put us back years.

Ozone

And a shout out to Ed001 :), how you doing mate?

@Ozone, got to agree mate.....we are in a mess! A bloody great mess! This is depressing!

K. Bennett {Ed001's Note - I was starting to feel better until Dalglish was sacked, now I just feel sicker again!}

 

 

17 May 2012 22:00:24
Sorry I don't have any insider knowledge or anything of the sort. This is just my twopence for the banter page.

I must admit that I did agree with the sacking of King Kenny who is and will always be a true legend but I didn't agree with some of his decisions (like paying Henderson on the right instead of Bellamy for instance). However, I make no claim to know better than the King so I backed him like a true red although I thought he should be removed at the end of this season for a proven performer in this new football world. What I do not agree with is moving from KD to Roberto Martinez; that is a huge step down in my opinion. This seems rushed and uninformed from FSG, but I do think they truly want to win so I will give them and whoever the new manager is my support.

Personally, I would like Klopp but wouldn't object to AVB. Let's just get back to competing with the best in European Football!!

*I bleed red not because of haemoglobin but because I'm Scouse!!*

 

 

17 May 2012 21:51:16
Hello Eds, any new news ?
Anything about Txiki...

Thanks, {Ed022's Note - None at all.}

 

 

17 May 2012 21:58:54
How much did FSG buy the club for? 239m was it? 400m they might sell
set up fan base to take over 100,000 shares 4,000 each ;)

Well, I've agreed.
Thats just 99,999 to go.

Lol im in sure the eds and macca would go 4 it ;) {Ed022's Note - Sure why not.}

 

 

17 May 2012 21:55:48
Why don't our fans, rather than trot out the predictable "he's not good enough", "the job will be too big for him" etc actually read up on the guy. I first talked up Martinez as a LFC boss 2-3 months ago (search the name) and this is because of the great things I hear from within football about the man. He's only on the shortlist right now but this could be another Shanks - he's special and definitely not "one from the bottle" !

PieInTheSkyMan

Im sorry, did you say Shanks? What a bloody joke!

He could be another Hodgson..?

Everyone's entitled to their opinion!

I think most people are just underwhelmed.

WE WANT IT NOW!!

dmedly

So I read up on him.
1. Bruce and Jewell did far better at Wigan than Martinez.
2. Wigan under Martinez finished 5th from bottom, 5th from bottom and 6th from bottom.
3. Win ratio at Swansea - 50%. Win ratio at Wigan 27%.

I agree. Honestly, some people have no idea what they're talking about re Martinez, even though I'd be equally happy with AVB. Klopp I doubt is possible. Mourinho would cost far too much, even if he was interested, which I doubt very much!

At this stage, they're just looking to talk with candidates. If they appointed the very first person they spoke to, they'd be criticised too! I personally don't think Rafa has a hope in hell. They'll go for you young and upcoming manager. Matt

 

 

17 May 2012 21:55:47
Klopp's history is almost a carbon copy of where Liverpool are at now - Dortmond were languishing when he took over, then in 3/4 years they are winning the league with a team filled with youngsters. I am not sure if he'd want to repeat history again, as he has a "premium" against him now, having done it for 2 seasons in a row . . .so I think we should move heaven and earth to sign him and some the Dortmond team, but in reality the owners will be looking for a fresh manager who can bring the best out of young talent - hence Martinez, he seems the perect person for them, gets on brilliant with Dave Whelan, track record of buying and then selling on young talent and squeezes lots out of his players. He's the type of manager that Liverpool normally would go for once he's proved it at a "bigger" club. The reality is, once Suarez leaves, we have no world-class players to attract other players or even managers, so we need to build again and I honestly can't see many top managers clambering to take up the challenge.
Me personally, considering I can't see Klopp taking it, Rafa is the one.

Pablo

 

 

17 May 2012 21:55:36
Who did FSG appoint when they hired their first manager someone a rafa type or a avb type?

Someone a Kenny type...

One of a kind!

dmedly

 

 

17 May 2012 21:53:41
Is the reason why we are chasing Martinez because we will not have much of a budget and he has done a fair job at Wigan under the same restrictions, i really hope not.

 

 

17 May 2012 21:52:51
Seriously what top European player is gonna want to come and play for Martinez? shocking decision!

Depends on the DoF!

dmedly

 

 

17 May 2012 21:51:25
FSG out> There really are some tools on this site. If it wasn't for FSG we'd be in administration

That old chestnut gets right up my nose. Do you honestly think FSG invested purely to keep us happy by avoiding administration. Has it ever occurred to you that they bought the club on the cheap for ultimate financial gain over a 5 year business plan.

Ozone

 

 

17 May 2012 21:50:57
Hey fellow reds and Eds!
I haven't spoke for a while due to having to have a few hospital stays in terms of my health. One thing i can say though is all this isn't having a good effect on my health ;)!
I'm shocked that Martinez has been approached and am hoping that he isn't the one who is appointed. I understand there's more candidates to be spoken too so i'm just praying they're bigger names with more experience.
I was upset to see Kenny go and was hoping he'd get another year but what's done is done and it's time to look forward. Although i'm afraid we could be going downhill but we'll wait and see. Let's hope this 'plan' Ayre keeps going on about is a good one because right now it doesn't feel that way.
Still though, lets wait and see!
Keep the faith lads, we are still Liverpool F.C and no-one will take that away from us!
Dale B

Whatever you say about FSG they have 8alls, they seem to know what they want and will do what it takes to get there...

Let's just hope they are right!

dmedly

Hope you don't have anymore or if not many more hospital visits Dale mate! Wishing good health to you!

K. Bennett

 

 

17 May 2012 21:48:30
FSG considering Ken Dodd as new Liverpool manager, in a cost cutting move, that would mean using the same jackets as previous manager !

Reckon you'll get as many laughs with that as Dodd did!

dmedly

 

 

17 May 2012 21:47:58
Been told Martinez will get it but ive put a few quid as an outside bet on Frank Rikaard :)

 

 

17 May 2012 21:46:39
Nobody gets a fair chance anymore, pity in the early days of fergie when he was poor at united he never got sacked!!
It's all the kids that are part of the Xbox FIFA generation who don't understand football that think messi is the only good player and get caught up in the hype. When I watched football I stood on the Kop for £1.50 with real supporters who had understanding and could read the game from the stands they had faith and hope. It is all part of a football world that has sold itself to money it does not belong to the common man but to business and it does resemble the game I love, so to all of you talking rubbish kenny did a good job, all the best world class players take time to gel, you just want to win just like your games machines, if that is so just play in your rooms and dont get evolved in a mans game and grow up and get some patience, they have lost a top man!

Spot on pal.

Ozone

I mighty be an anomaly here, being 20 and actually in the top 10% in the world on FIFA, but besides that you are right about fair-weather supporters coming out the woodwork.... It's upsetting to say the least and I for one will advocate that I have always wanted Kenny and Rafa before him to stay... We are too quick to judge and too quick to act on intuition...it's not younger generation as such, with the world based around capital incentives, ruthless actions are the order of the day, and to think I'm still planning on getting my badges... Let's stick together as the LFC family, more than ever.
NextGenRed

Well said i am not likeing the way things are going at our club i was gutted when kenny got sacked i dont understand how some of are fans have slaged kenny off now you are all bitchen about who is comeing in i think most of the manergers in for us are just not good enough why would we want martines when his team finished 15 and king kenny gets sacked and we finished 8 i know its not what we wanted but i think kenny would have come good anyway thanks to all you so called fans that moaned about kenny we have got to get a top manager to jusify his sacking gutted

 

 

17 May 2012 21:46:25
You gotta love the rollercoaster ride that is LFC, I was expecting a quiet end to May then boom, it just gets better, bury the memories & lets move forward, up the reds..........spud 68

Move forward, I like it!

Everyone else seems to want to go back...Rafa!

Times have changed and we need to change with them...

Onwards and hopefully upwards!

dmedly

 

 

17 May 2012 21:45:46
Hi guys,

I would just like to say, that as much as I appreciate Macca's information, I really like to hear his opinions.

I feel Macca only comes on when he has some info for us, its a shame as I like to hear everyones opinion. Maybe he doesnt have time or maybe its due to people slagging off what he says.

He is not always bang on the money, as he says himself, but then again......who is right all the time?

Any way Macca, thank you for keeping us all in the loop.

Crooky
YNWA

 

 

17 May 2012 21:44:18
I think Martinez would'nt be a bad choice.

He may be what the team needs and he's still young and an up-coming talented manager.

Oh and i will just add: brendon rodgers gets all the credit for the way swansea play their footy but it was actually built of the foundations martinez laid when he was boss.... Interesting ?

Take care reds and eds!
Lfcjohnynwa

So true.

Stone YNWA.

 

 

17 May 2012 21:43:48
If we Get Martinez then the board should be sacked and the owners sell, he has no experience should have stuck with Kenny

 

 

17 May 2012 21:40:41
Why is FSG interested in martinez, paul jewell and steve bruce both had a better record at Wigan and Brendan Rodgers has done better at Swansea?! They are probably not approaching the big managers because they think they won't get 'em, isnt it worth a try?

How do you know they aren't/haven't tried..?

dmedly

Maybe they won't approach top manager's as they cost to much money? {Ed016's Note - You need a top manager to win the top prize. That is what they want)

 

 

17 May 2012 21:39:34
I wouldn't mind O'neil tbh, very good man manager and deserves a go at a big job! I know somebody who is close to him - tried to contact him this evening but his phone is off! If I hear anything, I'll be straight on here

SL {Ed001's Note - he is useless, I would be sick if he ever got the job, terrible football.}

At what team has he had the chance to play expansive football though? Give him a chance! {Ed001's Note - Celtic, Villa, Sunderland, Leicester and Wycombe. All of them he chose to put a big lump up front (central defender or striker it didn't matter so long as he was big and could head the ball) and have his defenders hoof the ball up to him. The man is not the answer and should never even be mentioned again.}

So you don't like him then Ed..? ;)

Dmedly {Ed001's Note - whatever gave you that idea? I can't stand him, he is an arrogant knob, in my opinion, that knows about as much about football as my ten year old daughter does. At least she understand the difference between a pass and a hoof!}

 

 

17 May 2012 21:38:26
ED01 around december time i asked you about my mate Jerome Sinclair who you lot signed from west brom but you said you hadn't heard much of him, i have asked him a few times how he has been getting on and he has said that it is going well and he has settled in fine just wondering if you have had time to see him play yet cheers?

RED87 {Ed001's Note - yes, I made a point of watching him, he looks to be top class and is rapidly establishing himself in the U18s (even though he is very young). I have to say, he is the most exciting player in the kids right now, other than Sterling. For me, I would be shocked if he didn't make it as a Prem player, and it would be because he let himself down. So long as he gets his head down and works hard, he can be a top class player, I really rate him.}

Is sinclair better than suso n silva?
Indian Buzzer

 

 

17 May 2012 21:38:12
Eds on the scale of 1-10 how annoyed do you get by the ridiculous posts that come on here? I will accept If you include this one. Also do you recon the owners are pretty clueless when it comes to managers lol

Cheeeers :) {Ed001's Note - 10 and yes, I really feel they are badly advised.}

I agree that KK should've had another season, but I'll give them one thing...they know what they want and where they want to go and don't care who they upset to get there!

Let's just hope they get it right!

dmedly

 

 

17 May 2012 21:36:19
Martinez looking like the most likely next manager. I hope the owners 'see something' in him. Every accomplished manager has to start somewhere and perhaps Martinez has what it takes to be the next Jose Mourhino. I hope so. Not too happy with the way they handled Kenny. Remember 4 weeks ago when Werner said that Kenny had their full backing? Clearly they say whatever they want when the occasion suits them. Hope they turn this mess around or they will be put in the same class as Gillett and Hicks.

 

 

17 May 2012 21:36:08
John Henry. You have dyed hair and a pretty wife. I have been around the block a few times. Probably more than you have.
She is there for your money. My experience at the University of hard knocks Bangkok tells me this.
I want you gone, with your dyed hair.
Bye bye Gringo !

What garbage!

MR EM

Oh dear...

The green eyed monster is amongst us!

dmedly

That hard knock that you took in Bangkok was obviously to your head.

Was it a knock or a Bang?

AK

 

 

17 May 2012 21:35:41
Hi ed was just wondering your opinion on going for Frank De boer. He's done it all as a club player winning basically everything and also won back to back leagues with Ajax. He play brilliant football, he's young and he could also help the youth academy progress even further. Perfect candidate in my opinion. I am not sure but I think he works under a DOF at Ajax as well so that wouldn't come as a shock to him at Liverpool. PS. I shouldn't even have to be asking you this because Kenny should still be in charge.

POOR SCOUSER TOMMY {Ed001's Note - I don't watch the Eredivisie to judge him, sorry.}

 

 

17 May 2012 21:34:46
Dortmund got Klopp from the 2nd division in Germany... and see what he has done.

Juventus got Antonio Conte from the 2nd division in Italy... and see what he has done.

So give Roberto Martinez a f******* chance and don't slate him before he is even appointed!

And also...
to these people who think Martinez will not attract any good/ big players and Liverpool generally will not attract good/ big players without CL.

Conte, as I said came from the 2nd division in Italy and nobody knew him. Juventus finished 7th and had no European football.

They bought players like Andrea Pirlo, Arturo Vidal or Eljero Elia.

So please calm down a little bit and wait and see what the owners will do, because they certainly don't want any bad for our great club!

Cheers

Phil

Conte was a top player 4 juve and italy

Good positive post. Too many impatient idiots on here..

Stone YNWA.

 

 

17 May 2012 21:33:54
eds heard anything of clarke, new manager, new dof and is jen chang acutally got the job or rumours? {Ed022's Note - Clarke I have covered mate, and the rest is the same as always.}

 

 

17 May 2012 21:32:39
Evening eds fellow reds , said about a month ago and repeated it again yesterday , this decision will prove what sort of owners we have . i believe if martinez is appointed or one of a similair format, our club will be in a terrible place dont see us getting in top ten of the prem ,will lose our best players and fade away .hope all the fans that had
YANKS OUT banners still have them think they will be needed .hope im wrong but massive step backwards in my eyes .cheers psv. ps WHY ALWAYS US

 

 

17 May 2012 21:29:29
Ed001...thanks for replying to my question regarding Roberto Martinez. I must say if he's appointed it'll seen like an anti-climax after FSG sacked KK. I've been supporting Liverpool since 1968 and we've only reached the heights of the glory years under Rafa. Now I'm not saying he's the right choice. What I'm saying is that when Rafa was appointed we all felt confident since we had seen his great Valencia side at Anfield and I remember very clearly watching his Valencia team outplaying the likes of Real Madrid when Valencia won La Liga. Does Martinez inspire the same confidence? Not really. We really need somebody like Rafa. Klopp would be ideal in my view but I can't see how he'd be willing to give up CL football for the EPL. I guess I'm old enough and wise enough to have considered views and I feel I am right. {Ed001's Note - I just don't get the buzz regarding Martinez. He took over a mid table side, 3 years later they are a relegation battler. He has had that time to build his own side and yet he has had to completely change his tactical approach to the game because he has been unable to get them playing the way he wanted to! That shows some serious issues for me. By now he should have been able to coach the younger players to play the way he wants to and the players brought in should have been the right type of player. What the hell has he been doing that he has been unable to do so in 3 years? And yet we are expected to believe he deserves a shot after Dalglish got less than 2 seasons! Unbelievable.}

Hi Ed totally agree, however being welsh and watching swansea for a number of years, he transformed the way they played to a pass and move side in which Brendan Rodgers has now followed and now they are in the top six footballing sides in the premiership. Its basically Martinez's team who play the Martinez way. Maybe with a little more guidance off the DOF and some money he may and its a big MAY turn things round. A big Gamble I think. Ed whats your thoughts.

Evered {Ed001's Note - I don't see it, I think he is a very poor coach and has no idea about buying players to suit his style of play. I really think he is a mistake waiting to happen.}

 

 

17 May 2012 21:29:01
Ed I really fear for Liverpool if FSG don't get this right. I don't think Martinez is good enough for us. We need a good experienced manager used to challenging for titles and not bring one in that took over a decent mid table side and brought them down the league scrapping through relegation by the skin of their teeth for 3-4 years. If they don't get it right I fear this could really set us back big time. I hate to think we are turning into Chelsea sacking managers every year. Give me some words of wisdom Eds

Frog {Ed001's Note - I think it is more important that the club gets the right leadership off the pitch, first and foremost. The CEO and DoF are vital, they have to be the right choice or we are going to be mired in mid-table for years to come.}

Personally i'm losing confidence in FSG, they know more or less nothing about football so how can they get it right ?

Do you think Warren Buffet knows about every type of business he buys into?

He buys the company, retains or finds the best managers, lets them get on with it, and checks in once a year.

FSG have to be given time to find the right people to run the club and the team. Neither Ayres nor Kenny were really their choice.

 

 

17 May 2012 21:27:27
Hi, do you think that Andre Villas-Boas will be interviewed and if so, could he get the job and take the club forward

^ Hope not!

 

 

17 May 2012 21:26:35
How reliable is the This Is Anfield website? I only ask because they are saying that Benitez is one of a few managers to be interviewed in the next week or so. Now I'm not saying that Rafa is the answer because I just don't know but think about this, of all the so-called up and coming managers being mentioned i.e. Martinez would Rafa really be that much of a bad choice? Who would you rather have, a guy who just about avoids relegation every year or someone who has actually proven that he can be successful with LFC? Everything for me points to them giving Rafa the job simply because he ticks all of their boxes, not only is he not that much of a gamble but he is also young enough to still be considered a young manager. I know people will say he was rubbish toward the end but I think anybody would have struggled with the dynamic duo in charge, we should remember how good we actually were with him. I think the only thing standing in his way is that I don't think FSG wouldn't want to be seen to be going back to a former manager again.

I cannot think of any former manager going back to a club and having the same success.

 

 

17 May 2012 21:26:32
Get rid !
Why are these morons even interviewing a no-mark who has won zilch.
Get rid.
Get rid of FSG.
Go away to your Mickey Mouse sports - not real sports.
FSG - please get lost !

What a jerk you are

How about you get lost mate. Go and support a different club, we don't want fans like you, FSG saved us you person

Are you feelin ok ?

Mr Slonk The Red

YNWA

Morons? they saved us from the brink coz of the other pair. get real if it was any other manager he would have been sacked earlier. he was learning his trade with a small club on limited funds and done a good job. i would be happy if we got him

 

 

17 May 2012 21:26:11
few of us even the owner want appointing a young dynamic manager but maybe people should take a closer look around the Premier League . Man city. Man utd, Arsenal Tottenham neither of them have young manager !
they are mature and experienced and can handle all the crises that come their way. did we really want a young manager ? or Van Gaal , Rafa type ?

roman red

Mancini ain't really do old! Quite young actually for a top flight manager

Mankini was 45..Fergi was 44..arsene 46...and Harrys never been younger than 65 (even at school)... and Matinez is 39 this time.....not much difference really...smf

I dont think you can call mancini old mate he,s not exactly nearing pension but with the money he has spent he should have won the league

 

 

17 May 2012 21:25:21
Why are we looking at managers with potential or good reputations in respect of lower profile achievements? Stated earlier, Van Gaal is a no brainer as he has a great CV, if we have panicked and are now in a bit of a mess then we have Rafa to call on, however, his style of play in the end was poor. If a young manager comes in I can see us after another by christmas!!! I really hope they are after a proven manager and some of this early stuff is a smoke screen. Martinez is not good enough in my opinion.

Evo YNWA

 

 

17 May 2012 21:23:59
I know this is a presumtive post and i dont claim to be ITK however its seems to more or less common sense. The Reds have appointed a DOF if they are asking to speak to mangers such as Martinez . The new manager and DOF will be working together on a daily basis so i find it unlikely that a DOF is not consulting FSG on the decision of appointing a manager. I am not claiming i know who the DOF is , just that there is one appointed/ or there is someone who has agreed to take up the postion.Could you shed some light on this logic Eds?
I sitll maintain that LFC are intrested in Houilett from Blackburn, however as the Eds have said i believe that all transfers have been postponed till the new manager arrives.
The Wise rigglet. {Ed001's Note - you would hope that a DoF would be appointed prior to the manager, but I have no idea if one has or not. As far as I am aware Hoilett is off to the bright lights of London.}

 

 

17 May 2012 21:22:20
I'd rather Moyes, even with all the crap he's talked over the years, than Martinez.

 

 

17 May 2012 21:21:46
Kick Kenny out and replace him with Martinez - FSG are having a laugh. Replacing an absolute legend with the equivalent if a 'fresher' in a management course. They have got to be joking.
ND

 

 

17 May 2012 21:19:45
I am sorry but what the F**K are FSG thinking by interviewing martinez. Is this their idea of striving for the very best?

Please tell me this is only a f***ing nightmare..


VM YNWA

I wouldn't be suprised if martinez was put on the list by Ian Ayre. {Ed022's Note - wouldn't surprise me either.}

 

 

17 May 2012 21:18:54
When Kenny was appointed full time as the manager of Liverpool, I was a bit sceptical with hindsight to his longevity away from any direct involvement from the touchline. But like a true supporter, I backed him to the hilt, just like all real supporters should have. But the doubts still remained in my mind as the season wore on. No, I'm not glad he didn't live up to certain expectations and I'm not glad he has gone in the manner he has. But he gave it his best shot, nothing else would have been his way. It wasn't good enough for certain people. Football has changed a lot over the last 20 years, the romance has gone from the game to a certain degree, to be replaced by the necessity to win immediately or make a profit. Kenny tried to take the club back to it's old values, but unfortunately for him, there are too many people involved within the club that didn't share with this vision. This is not a criticism on my part, but just an opinion on where football has gone since Kenny Dalglish was last involved with success. If it would have worked, people would have been shouting from the rafters, myself included. But it didn't, so the club has to move on. And it has to move on an equal footing with the other big clubs and quickly, or will will be even further behind than ever. YNWA

Good post. The game has changed since Fergie was given six years in the 1980's. No new manager will be given close to that ever again - not by a big club.

That's why the "let's have patience and stick with Kenny" argument was always a losing one.

 

 

17 May 2012 21:00:58
Ed do you think Liverpool could afford mourinho if he was on the shortlist.

Dave {Ed001's Note - no.}

12m a year, very doubtful.

 

 

17 May 2012 21:00:52
ed how do you say this txixi fellas name? {Ed001's Note - no idea sorry, I will ask me dad for you and get back to you, he speaks Spanish.}

Tshiki

 

 

17 May 2012 21:00:45
eds i'm just wondering where you get your information, are you all close to the club or something?. and why are you so certain Suarez will leave, i remember you said it's was very unlikely we would sign Suarez and you where 90% sure we would sign A.Young but we did get Suarez and A.Young went to man u. i have been following this site for years and I've never really seen any of the eds make a correct call. you have confirmed things when everyone already new and just speculate about other things. i'm beginning to wonder whether you only know as much as us fans and just post rumours that everybody already knows. please post his on the rumours page, i know you probably wont because I've had a go before and you never posted anything I've said when it says something bad about you or questions your knowledge.thanks {Ed001's Note - if you say so. Considering Ed002 has been saying for months that Dalglish would go. Then there is the fact that none of us said we would get Young, simply that we would try and buy him, we did and he chose United. So stop with your whines and lies.}

Edd 002 is a badman STEMLOCC1

 

 

17 May 2012 21:00:45
Please stop these rafa rumors. The mans ego would never get on with the americans. yes he won the champions league on penalties but we also missed out on the top 4 that season to everton. Yr2 we only won the cup because of gerrard. If the cl success was somewhat lucky the one we lost was down to his arrogance in not picking crouch or bellamy. He should have won a league were it not for his tinkering against so called weaker teams and his appalling treatment of keane who is by no means a world beater but to sell him with no back up was just ridiculous and cost us dearly when torres injuries started to mount up . His last season was a joke finishing 7th but this has been blamed on the previous owners.The annoying thing about that season tho was the brand of football he wanted to play, he seemed more concerned with stopping th monthse opposition than winning the games. When he went to the serie A champions, cup champs and CL holders he only lasted 6 months as they wouldnt put up with his style of management so why should we. Please stop these rafa rumors. The mans ego would never get on with the americans. yes he won the champions league on penalties but we also missed out on the top 4 that season to everton. Yr2 we only won the cup because of gerrard. If the cl success was somewhat lucky the one we lost was down to his arrogance in not picking crouch or bellamy. He should have won a league were it not for his tinkering against so called weaker teams and his appalling treatment of keane who is by no means a world beater but to sell him with no back up was just ridiculous and cost us dearly when torres injuries started to mount up . His last season was a joke finishing 7th but this has been blamed on the previous owners.The annoying thing about that season tho was the brand of football he wanted to play, he seemed more concerned with stopping th monthse opposition than winning the games. When he went to the serie A champions, cup champs and CL holders he only lasted 6 months as they wouldnt put up with his style of management so why should we.

Get rafa back now yes he won the champions cup on pens he onle fineshed behind everton that year because he rested players for europe fact. he won the fa cup fact. he got to another champions laegue finale and semi finale was second in the league even though he showed a profit in his last two seasons on transfers.
look how much its took man city and chelsea to win the league and some liverpool fans moan about ending up 2nd while making a profit
soul man

You do know you pasted that twice don't you?

Jonesred

 

 

17 May 2012 21:00:20
please tell me we are not gonna get martinz as our manager!! please god dont let this be true

sad.red

 

 

17 May 2012 20:59:38
ED 01 welcome back!

Do you still have faith in FSG? I think they have no plan at all and are adding to our problems rather than elimanating them!

ED please give me faith to believe in that golden sky,this storm has been long and very dark! {Ed001's Note - I have faith that they want to win. I don't have faith that they understand the club. I also have no faith in the advice they are receiving about football right now. I also wonder why so many people have been removed but the man who was in charge throughout the Suarez debacle is still there spouting on Sly Sports. Ayre should have been first to go. He is the MD, he has to carry the can for his complete lack of leadership during last season. Things need to change at the club, a new man at the top should have been done first and foremost.}

Conspiracy Theory : Dein already in place, doesn't want the bad press of being part of sacking Kenny. We still need a figurehead of sorts so Ayre stays for time being, presides over removal of Kenny and also Suarez will be sold under Ayre. He will eventually move to commercial side only, enhancing links with current sponsors (having done their dirty work). New appointees arrive without blood on their hands ?? (just to add some drama - may as well as we've turned into a soap opera).
Red Derry

Agree with Red Derry. Ayres is still there because someone needs to deal with the fall-out. He is buying the owners time.

When things calm down, and the new CEO is found, Ayres will step aside, and be rewarded for doing the "dirty work", as you put it.

 

 

17 May 2012 21:15:37
I was in the US for the duration of the 2010 World Cup. Roberto Martinez was one of their leading summarizers (ESPN) and came accross very well. This may also have contributed to his presence in the minds of FSG and their 'advisers'.

I must admit, he came accross as a football genius when compared to Alexi Lalas next to him, but we'll see.....

Red G

I watched it here in the US also. He was impressive.

I am not surprised the owners are interested in him. Fluent in Spanish and English, good in the media, and known in the US.

 

 

17 May 2012 21:13:59
As much as I'd love Jurgen Klopp to be our next manager (he seems a very popular choice here - no-one has a bad word to say about him) That will be far from easy it seems, so we may have to scale back our hopes a little.

Agreed, its a given that the language barrier may be somewhat of a problem but i'd still rather have him than anyone else ATM

 

 

17 May 2012 21:12:07
Eds please post!

News breaking that Wigan have given permission to Liverpool to speak to Martinez!

Trust me, i'm 'in the know'! (i have a laptop with a google function too)

 

 

17 May 2012 21:11:50
{Ed022's note - What part of 'I wont post Twitter crap on this site' do people not understand? Should I put it slower and write it in capital letters so it really sinks in?}

Twitter is crap but if people want to post it then i dont think its really right that u dont m8 as long as theyre not stupid {Ed022's Note - So you think me wasting hours of my life having to read questions about Twitter and responding with 'lies' 'lies' 'lies' every single time is also right? At the end of the day this website is for Liverpool Rumours, not to promote Twitter users or ask questions no one gives a crap about.}

Fighting a losing battle I think ed022. Its like telling Bobby Brown no more crack. In one ear out the other with some I'm afraid.

Melbourne CFC

I point to the Bobby Brown example once more ed.

Melbourne CFC

 

 

17 May 2012 21:06:19
Just had a call from a mate of mine who works at Melwood. He seems to think the Martinez thing has been only followed up because it is all over the papers and the owners wish to go about their real search without to much media invasion!!

Not sure how true this is just what I have been told!

Jon LFC

Doubt it, he's definately on their list.

 

 

17 May 2012 21:05:30
dad a great friend of the old md of lfc and has heard that rafa has been approached but at his own home, done as discretely as possible as not to cuase upheavel he has been told he will have a big transfer budget and 3 years to try and bring cl football or better for the club

^ I really really hope so! {Ed016's Note - Well get over to the wirral and check it out. He lives pretty close to Calday Grammar School.)

 

 

17 May 2012 21:05:26
Looks like the Txkiki Begiristain rumours were unsubstantiated then, they seemed to have died down after an hour and Guillem Balauge has all but confirmed he has not been approached.
Shame, would have been a good addition I think :(

RedBean

He also send that kenny would get another year!

 

 

17 May 2012 20:57:10
A lot of people claiming City don't deserve the title and they should have had a play off, due to finishing level on points. Personally I think Giles Smith summed it up perfectly.

'So, Manchester City deserved to win the title because they won the title - and we congratulate them. And Liverpool deserved to finish eighth because they finished eighth, and we congratulate them, too.'

Melbourne CFC {Ed022's Note - Now now Melbourne, keep it nice boy!}

And Chelsea finished where?

Rules is equal for everyone when rules say's city champions then it's the right one.

It did make me chuckle ed. I'll keep a lid on it until the 19th mate. Quick question for the deluded; One domestic trophy (won't name names) a CL final and 6th on the league OR one domestic trophy, an fa cup final and 8th in the league. Which would you rather?

Sacked manager on both sides. Chelsea targeting the likes of Mourinho, Guardiola, Capello. Liverpool targeting Martinez, Rodgers and AVB if you believe paper talk on both fronts.

I must say I'm already excited about reading 'next year' and 'history' on here in about 3 1/2 months.

Melbourne CFC {Ed001's Note - ouch!}

Message to Melbourne CFC: I really hope Bayern Munich walk all over you on Saturday night, would give me the best laugh I've had all year.

Well, i like the cockiness coming from the Chelsea fan.

It would be nice to see Bayern beat you after you beat Barca and then you miss out on Champions League football and the 2 places between Chelsea and Liverpool will mean not a lot.

Ahhhh same message I got about the Barcelona tie, the Benfica tie and the Napoli tie.

Now I have doubted Liverpool all season but it has been justified in the end. Best laugh I've had all year would have to be either Carroll vs Newcastle OR Liverpool vs QPR. Of course I have had quiet a few more laughs at your expense this campaign.

Melbourne CFC

I personally believe Bayern will win 3-1, and that's my unbiased opinion.

 

 

17 May 2012 20:56:46
Hey macca , can you please tell us if we are in for other managers apart from martinez and rogers ?

thanks

 

 

17 May 2012 20:56:04
Thanks or your reply earlier ed. I can see you point with benitez but don't you think we need someone with a little more experience or do we take a risk again with a younger manager? I believe both r {Ed022's Note - I believe a younger manager with experience would be best.}

AVB maybe

Yeah Rafa, he's not that old.

Surely a younger manager with experience doesnt exist! How can a young manager have experience? {Ed022's Note - Villas Boas has won the Europa League, The Portugese League and the Portugese cup all in the same season. I'd say thats a tad bit of experience.}

 

 

17 May 2012 20:53:36
to all the people who wanted kk out be carefull what u wish for. wot happens if we have a few defeats in the league u gona call for the new mans head again like hodgsons? the guys we r being linked with raffa( no thanks had his chance) and martinez and rodgers both not experienced enough in my eyes. the only plus i think is a new manager needs his to put his own stamp on the side and shud get sum funds.good luck to who eva gets it but i think it could be a bumpy ride when i think kk mite of done a lot better next season but we'll neva no now! i think o'neil wouldnt be a bad shout.....redman matt

Agree with what you said then you let your self down by shouting for martin o'neil.

 

 

17 May 2012 20:53:32
Old King Kenny sat on a wall
Old King Kenny had a great fall
But all the kings horses and all the kings men
Won more this season than Moyes has in ten

Dan

Brilliant! Thanks, needed cheering up!
Paul Mc

 

 

17 May 2012 20:52:13
I will back martinez but surely they would be making a massive mistake by doing this.I think that if this shortlist is real and it is just rafa martinez rogers and the unknown 4th surely rafa would be th best? eds what do you think? {Ed001's Note - I think they would need to rip up that shortlist and start again with none of those names anywhere near a proper list.}

Totally agree with Ed, none of those three are the answer. We need a Hiddink, Ancelotti, Rijkaard or Laudrup type. Only because Jose or Pep would not take over LFC, as we are not contenders.

 

 

17 May 2012 20:51:02
Just a fact for everyone who just started to moan about so called small managers like Martinez... Klopp jonied Dortmund from a so called small Team Mainz!

He'd be unproven in the Prem, but has now the experience to be a very good option for Liverpool.

I don't think he'll move to Liverpool though.

Dortmund made an inspired choice because there were no expectations, and no pressure. A club lucky to be alive at that time.

We struggle to make good choices, and our appointees keep disappointing, because of the burden of expectation.

 

 

17 May 2012 20:50:52
Sorry Guys
This has not come from Kop talk but being reported in the Liverpool Echo
Latics owner Dave Whelan has confirmed LFC owners Fenway Sports Group have made an approach for the Spaniard as they look to appoint Kenny Dalglish's successor.

"I don't know the exact timescales of when he is due to meet with the Liverpool owners but I will never stand in Roberto's way," Whelan said.

Martinez, 38, got Swansea promoted into the Championship before being snapped up by Wigan in 2009.


Last summer Martinez rejected the chance to take over at Aston Villa and enhanced his reputation this season by maintaining Wigan's top flight status.

At one point they appeared doomed to relegation but they took 21 points out of a possible 27 in the last nine games to finish seven points clear of the drop zone.



Only my opinion but worrying. My view is always that you should only change your manager at a top club if your dam sure the one your bringing in is strongly likely to be better. We did not do this when Rafa went and in my opinion this would be the same but catostrophic outcome Thoughts ??

This was on sky sports at 19:00, it also said LFC were looking at a number of options already.

 

 

17 May 2012 20:50:30
Evening all first post in a while but need to get some things off my chest.To all the King kenny haters you really need to give your head a shake.Maybe you should think before you open your mouths and post complete and utter carp.Kenny took us from relegatoin zone and complete turmoil to carling cup success,final FA cup and a nats nut from destroying chelsea for the third time this season.Granted league results not great but look at style of football chances created woodwork hit.All this done in 16 months.All i can say is be careful what you wish for because we are now talking to a really nice guy who has never experienced success other than keeping a team in the premier lg.If this is where we set our sights i am very worried.Maybe i have just realised just how far we have fallen still no news on the ground no manager,no DOF,backroom chaos.All i can say is be very careful what you wish for because we are slipping away and if these decisions are not the right ones i fear where we might find our beloved club in another 16 months tomo 10

 

 

17 May 2012 20:50:14
ha knew about martinez weeks ago, the thing is liverpool are not a 'big club' any more, not enough quality and finish below the real big clubs (man c, man u, chelsea, arsenal, tottenham) so when you talk about klopp, guardiola, mourinho, rafa ect. it is cringeworthy!! they wouldn't dream of coming to ur 2nd rate club......
Roberto martinez it is stop dreaming

Lufc 4 life

Jog on mate the men have work to do

I think that rafa would not be out of reach, just maybe a poor choice he would come if offered the job

Anyone would be better than Neil Warnock - or what is his anagram again...........

JRG

! A Leeds fan calling us second rate! That is hilarious! And just a little bit tragic! I didn't think they still made you mate!

Stell

I take it by his post he is a Leeds fan. Enough said really. So sad, what division are they in again please?

Lufc 4 life didn't your doctor tell you not to drink while on medication! Here's something to think on your not even a big club in yorkshire no more.

Yea lufc look where your great club is lol in the championship where you belong you mug you have ken bates as the chairman both sheffield clubs will be above you next year come back then with your tripe your spouting then martinez wouldnt even consider you you found your level with grayson and you got rid of him for warnock great choice numpty

This coming from a leeds fan.

 

 

17 May 2012 20:47:21
Ed...my view when we lost to Wigan was that Roberto Martinez had outwitted KK and that he was better tactically than the King. Today, I'm not too sure he's the right man for the poisoned chalice, that is managing LFC. That said, I'm willing to support Martinez though I fear that with a low profile manager he'd be in a weaker position as far as transfer budget and targets are concerned. Do you share the same view, Ed? Thanks. {Ed001's Note - I just think he is not the right man for the job. He clearly has issues identifying the right players to buy, that is why, after 3 years in the manager's chair at Wigan he had to completely change his tactical approach. A good manager would have been able to bring in, through coaching and buys, players to suit his tactical requirements, in that length of time. Clearly he is not good enough.}

 

 

17 May 2012 20:46:42
for once can liverpool stop taking risks on relegation team managers and focus on getting proven title winners like rafa , AVB, Klopp , Capello ? what is wrong with FSG ? people say ye lets give him(martinez) a chance , we haven't got the time to experiment , we need to get in the top 4 this season and martinez in my opinion is not that man to do that , he's a master of the other half of the league ladder(relegation zone)

 

 

17 May 2012 20:46:19
Why is it i really think that this "interveiw" with martinez is really all part of a process which will see the return of rafa benitez...anyone else get the same feeling???

Oh God..thats a horrible thought, I'd rather finish 8th then go back to boring football.

Bazingaa

I wish we'd end up with Rafa. But i think it's going to be a young yes man manager, not someone who sticks their feet into the ground and plays club politics.

When FSG first came in and their "Moneyball" stuff came to the surface, I thought Rafa would be perfectly suited to them. So if they interview him, then maybe he'll impress his way in.

But that depends on who's actually conducting the interviews, and if he gets in the door in the first place. I have a suspicion that he won't.

 

 

17 May 2012 20:44:56
Look.
Martinez has won nothing. Will he save us from relegation ?
The club is the supporters, not the players or the managers. Who buys the tickets ?
Yanks: You appoint Martinez and you are in for one big surprise.
We are Liverpool, not you !
Yanks out, now !
Oh how I wish Dubai had taken over.
The Yanks play rounders and call it baseball.
Yanks out !

 

 

17 May 2012 20:44:01
Lets be honest guys we aint going to get a top manager after this long away from the top,our owners will settle for Martinez,as we are only a mediocre team now with mediocre players,if Martinez is appointed the least we can do is get behind him and hope for some good signings YNWA

JerryRed

 

 

17 May 2012 20:41:55
Macca, has rafa been approached?

Developments this evening suggest that ex-Reds manager Benitez is also on that list of managers approached

Somethings just don't add up, I have just heard FSG would not Accept Steve Clark's resignation.If this is true A new manager escpecially an experienced manager usually either brings his assistant with him or selects him after he arrives.
Two things cross my mind, one is perhaps Steve Clark could be our next manager, the other is that Rafa comes without baggage so would need an assistant, who better than Steve Clark.
Bobbinred

 

 

17 May 2012 20:40:29
I have no idea who will come as manager and I have no idea who out of those short listed will do the best job I'm simply a fan and although I know of players and abilities, mangers have always been weird creatures for E.G Di Matteo fired by WBA now leading Chelsea in the Champions league final. Who eve comes in will get my support but I just hope there the right man.

What I would say is leave FSG alone compare them to other owners and be grateful, they stopped us from going into administration and just because they sacked Kenny right or wrong doesn't mean they can be insulted by fans

-McMenemy

Top post -McMenemy

 

 

17 May 2012 20:39:54
Berigistain is the new DOF, SL

Ed is the same DoF that brought Ibrahimovic to Barcelona? That was a bit of a disaster wasn't it.

Vik

 

 

17 May 2012 20:43:44
Getting seriously f***** off with some postings on here, sure everyone is entitled to respective opinions but Martinez is young- yes, a touch inexperienced? Perhaps but seriously?!? What you lot gunna do when all the old experienced successful managers retire?! Time and patience, change sucks but if we want Liverpool to be challenging we just need to do our bit and support the club. Gutted kenny wasn't given more time personally but I don't wanna be the red version of man city...
Lfcmatt

Time & patience? Thats the issue isnt it? No new manager is going to be given time or patience by Henry and his crew. Ed002 has been o.ly too willing to let us know that the objective was top 4 so i assume it will be the same objective next season.So potentially this could be an on going saga. Great isnt it?

The Irish Rover

Completely agree Irish, this coming season will buy them time though nothing more sooner or later they will realise, I just hope it's not at the expense of the clubs heart and soul. I would sooner watch liverpool grow in the next 2-3 seasons than win a title next with some Americans money, maybe sentiment is getting in the way!

Lfcmatt

 

 

17 May 2012 20:33:50
Hey eds. Just wanna know if I will be able to buy the new LFC shirts from sports direct now we are with Warrior?

Thanks guys {Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware they will be being sold there.}

Buy direct from the club.

 

 

17 May 2012 20:33:40
I hope we wait until after the Champs League Final and then get Di Matteo after he is sacked.
So no compensation fee

He went to West Brom and played attractive football, but as the players werent very good he wasnt too succesful.
He picked up the Chelsea job and having learned from West Brom he got them playing winning football.
The guy seems to be a very lucky manager, and we could certainly do with that.
Martinez (bottom 5 for the last 4 years)
AVB maybe but Chelsea balls up is fresh in memory
Rafa dont think he ever got the Prem league

 

 

17 May 2012 20:32:45
Eds can you answer me this. Who is this backroom staff that is making these decisions? It's obviously not FSG because they are new to the sport. and with everyone gone; kk, sc, dc, pb, the media guy whose making these decisions?!?! Is it just Ian Ayre deciding and presenting to the owners? or a group of people and if so who is this group? Because who is still around? {Ed001's Note - I am trying to find out, because the decision to speak to Martinez is nonsensical. This is a man who took over a Wigan team that finished 11th and has dragged them down to relegation dogfights each season. He wants to play possession football, but his entire Wigan team spend 90% of the match with their heads down. To me it shows one of three issues with him. 1. His coaching is poor, because he is not coaching his players to get their heads up. Or 2. He is choosing the wrong players to buy, as players like Moses are well known for playing with their heads down. Or 3. Both coaching and buying are poor.}

Ed,
Please don't make me any more depressed !
The Real KB

Ed001,

Out of Martinez/Lambert/Pardew/Rodgers, I feel Lambert is the best.....

He is not tied to a philosphy like Rodgers....He has won UCL as a player....Knows the demands/psychology as a player....Scottish (Big Factor)...And he is streetsmart and learns from his mistakes.....

I am not saying we should go for him, but out of the 4 mentioned, Lambert stands taller than most of them......

LiverBird

ED01 what do you make of the decision to make Jen Chang the director of communications?

RED91 {Ed001's Note - I didn't know he had been made DoC mate. Is that true or just a rumour?}

I've asked this before, with no reply. Someone is advising FSG, because they clearly haven't a clue. My theory is that it's Klinsman , I don't think it's any of the backroom staff.
Bpbbinred

 

 

17 May 2012 20:29:46
Hi Eds and Macca,
Firstly τнänκ чöü for all the great input u both give. Really appreciate it.
2ndly, I just feel it is the right time to say this :
I really am surprised and upset with all those who questions the info Macca gives us. You all have x right to do so esp to a Legend and to a person who is giving you something more valuable than any other website. Rather than being thankful, 'SOME OF U' have the cheek to say Macca is wrong or question his info. What right do you have! Look, Macca is only looking at the best interest of the club and sharing the info. Not that he has the club and its happening under his hands. Something changes within seconds, and it's only right that we x put the blame or fault Macca on the info he has given. Can we all for once join together and just be thankful that we get first hand news and information from Macca. Let's appreciate it. Seriously...
Thirdly, I want to thank all the eds for their time that they spend sharing and explaining things to us.
That's all.
Samsaliva from Malaysia.
Sad to see the King walk away...

 

 

17 May 2012 20:29:31
Hi ed's/macca

Does it look likely that Martinez will be new manager because they asked him first which suggested he is the primary candidate

Cheers

Greg {Ed001's Note - it just suggests he is the first to be spoken to. We spoke to both Pellegrini and Rijkaard before removing Roy, neither got the job.}

I really like Pelligrini....

He was treated so shabbily by the press in Madrid......

Good coach and an honourable man.........

Ed001, No Bielsea (:P) ?

LiverBird {Ed001's Note - unfortunately, despite my pleading, we have never spoken to Bielsa. I will never understand why!}

 

 

17 May 2012 20:37:48
Helpoliverwalk has recieved loads of donations and advertisement via the Ed's and LFC fans. We can not thank you all enough for all the support fellow LFC fans have shown (and 1 man u fan).

Great Club, great fans and great website.

Thanks

BTM {Ed022's Note - No worries at all, we hope you can raise the amount mate and we'll do all we can to help.}

 

 

17 May 2012 20:37:30
hey eds what do you think of martinez as a manager, i hardly watch wigan play... does he play an attacking, creative type of play or is it more defensive.
do you think he is a suitable replacement for kd?

thanks :)
{Ed022's Note - I believe he is a good manager. But that's just my opinion.}

 

 

17 May 2012 20:37:14
I really dont think Martinez is ready yet.
Let him have the Villa job, and in a few years if he is successful and we are in need of another manager! Maybe he could have a go...?

Phooey

 

 

17 May 2012 20:29:01
i personally think martinez will prove all the doubters wrong if given the job but admittedly he will need a world class dof and management team to help guide him. if he is appointed please dont shoot him down in his first season lets give him time and back him 100% and show him how great we are as a club

There's your world class DOF TIXI GL Martinez!

 

 

17 May 2012 20:28:48
To be honest martinez wud be a step in the wrong direction..yes he's had a good end to the season but at the end of the day he was battling relegation..jurgen klopp wud be the man for the job..he has the winning mentality and if we could get him form dortmund he may bring a few players wit him..Barrios, Kagawa and gotze just to name a few..what you think ed's..could he be persuaded to leave dortmund? {Ed022's Note - Probably not mate.}

 

 

17 May 2012 20:28:34
EDS i just want your opinion, do YOU think Martinez will be manager, considering FSG "stress" that he is one of a "number" of candidates? what do you think mate {Ed022's Note - I think Martinez is desperate to get the job and will try and force it through, but hopefully the owners will not rush the decision.}

Cheers mate

 

 

17 May 2012 20:27:27
People need to relax. Martinez is just ONE of MANY people on the shortlist. I agree he is definitely not the man for the job, but the fact that he is just being interviewed does not mean he has the job! The fact that Steve Clarke's resignation has been turned down is surely good news. We truly need a manager that has won titles such as; AVB, Benitez or Klopp. I for one would welcome any one of these managers. Yes Martinez has done well but ultimately all he has achieved in the Premiership is save his, all be it poor, team from relegation.

However with all of this being said, I still unfortunately believe that we will end up with Martinez, especially given the fact that we are constantly being linked with the signing of Wigan's Diame, who would surely not be the calibre of target of a manager of greater reputation.

If we do end up with Martinez though I have no doubt that everyone will be right behind him!

 

 

17 May 2012 20:26:39
MACCA - is klopp likely? sorry to be a pest

Thanks.

 

 

17 May 2012 20:25:27
Txiki Begiristain IS the new DOF,with that in mind it has GOT to be RAFA for the managers job

alan50

 

 

17 May 2012 20:25:27
So is there any chance of rafa at all amuse me ed tell me there is {Ed022's Note - No there isn't.}

 

 

17 May 2012 20:24:51
I know that people don't want Roberto Martinez, nor Brendan Rodgers, because they will find LFC 'too big to handle'?

Well, if FSG can appoint the right people higher up; Txiki, David Dean etc. Then there's no reason why they can't do the job to the standard of Liverpool Football Club.

Whether it's Terry Connor or Jose Mourinho - let's give him our full support!


Stone YNWA.

Is that the same full support that Kenny got from Werner back in April? Shameful

The Irish Rover

 

 

17 May 2012 20:23:53
I believe i am right in saying we are talking to a number of candidates and not just martinez. Just Whelan seems to love hearing himself speak so came out and told sky sports news they have approached him. The way managers are picked is by interviewing a few of them seeing what there ideas are and deciding from there. It does not mean Martinez will be our manager.

Also Ed would Capello be too unrealistic? {Ed022's Note - Yes.}

 

 

17 May 2012 20:23:45
I'm based in Spain, Benitez has just been interviewed on andalucian radio about his excitement about returning to Liverpool !

Pepe Rainer was also speaking about looking forward to working with him again. {Ed022's Note - Rainer?}

 

 

17 May 2012 20:22:14
Txixi is said to be the new Director of Football. Good appointment.

-Shane.

 

 

17 May 2012 20:20:56
Quote from Wigan Chairman
"The Liverpool hierarchy is non-existent at present We played there about three months ago and there was not one soul in the boardroom.
"There doesn't seem to be any heart in the club. I was a little disturbed because to me Liverpool is one of the great football clubs.
"There's no heart beating in the club. You've got to put the heart in Liverpool"

If that is true, then I am gutted. KK tried to bring this heart back and has been stopped from doing it. Hope the new owners Know what they are doing......
Iggypop

Why would there be anyone in the boardroom on a match day? Surely they'd be watching the game?

Sell

That heart will be in place when Rafael Benitez is installed as manager!

 

 

17 May 2012 20:20:32
I don't have any 'in the know' just picking up bits from the various media available like most on here. I agreed with Dalglish going, but only if he was to be replaced with the likes of AVB, Allegri Massimiliano, Deschamps, Bielsa, Girard or Klopp. All of these managers are making a name for themselves, and it would also show the owners true intent if they could prize them away from the projects that they have all started (except AVB of course, who I believe still has a point to prove.) Moving for Rafa would be a step backwards, he was too rigid in his style, even some of the players were relieved when he went, like KK he is a man that will live on in our hearts but has had his time. Let us look forward!
This brings me onto Martinez!
Surely the only reason to appoint him would be because the owners want a puppet! he might of played 'nice' football at the end but did he get the best out of the players? Look at what old whiskey nose got out of Valencia! Top clubs are forever picking players from Wigan and making them better. They got thrashed 9-1 by the spuds and he didn't have a bad thing to say about his players, he gave them a day off! I don't believe he is mentally strong enough to be challenging for top 4 he is a 'nice guy' but with the high profile guys we are expecting to be placed upstairs, Texi, Dein and the likes, I believe the manager will be a puppet for the cameras! Do any of the Ed's agree? {Ed022's Note - I just think the owners have rushed into this decision.}

Tthe owners want a manager in a straight jacket, a yes man, thats why Rafa won't get th the job. and it will go to a young upper coming manager. I don't think an experienced mansger would touch the job.
When they announced a price freeze on prices , I new Kenny was gone.

Bobbinred

 

 

17 May 2012 20:19:39
if its true that there's a 4-man list, and that fsg are going to talk to each of them to assess availability and aptitude, then I reckon the 4 are:
Martinez (confirmed)
Villas-Boas
Klopp
Deschamps

I reckon they might beg Guardiola, but he'll say no.
There is basically no chance of Rafa coming back, can't see why people are betting on it.

 

 

17 May 2012 20:18:59
im just wandering, there doesn't seem to be much enthuasim about the prospect of martinez getting appointed. i know he hasn't yet won anything major yet (but he won swansea league 1 and won a manager of the month award) he also arguably set the basis for todays swansea fc team and has wigan playing great football whilst building a potential top young team out of them if they can hold on to their players. perhaps a move to lfc is a bit premature unless he can be guarinteed 3 seasons and a good amount of funding.

 

 

17 May 2012 20:18:52
Hi Eds and Fellow Reds, Can i just ask one question. Everyone is moaning about how Martinez isn't a 'top, world-class' manager, but neither was Kenny. He spent along time away from a managerial role and yet people are happy with him yet not with Martinez. Why?

I think we all need to see sense stop with the double standards.

Check you stats first....
Sign your post and only then
Come here and post...


LiverBird

But kenny had won titles he had also learnt from some of the best managers to ever manage lfc i dont see your point do you think while kenny was away he was locked in a darkened room and had not seen a football game for 10 years the man lived and breathed football and lfc

 

 

17 May 2012 20:16:59
Who would seriously be happy if Martinez was to get the job?

Simple

believe=yes. Unbelievable=no

No m8 few liverpool fans do i suspect bring back rafa

Dont see why he shouldn't get the job, he believes in what he preaches, honest manager gets his team to play footy, if he is the best available then we have to go with it, lets be realistic & accept what the owners are trying to build.....CM68

 

 

17 May 2012 20:16:39
Hi Ed
This is Anfield site are reporting that Liverpool have asked permission to speak to not only Martnez but also Brendon Rogers and have also spoken to Villa Boas and Rafa for interviews next week, do you know if this is true.

Thanks
Rich {Ed022's Note - Nope, because it's lies.}

U sure sounds plaussible hope its true god i want rafa back

 

 

17 May 2012 20:16:02
well good thing about martinez is he is spanish and know english football. he can bring few spanish player from spain. but still look gamble as his experiance for top class club.

 

 

17 May 2012 20:15:48
Not happy that a manager who has had a few good games at the end of the season is going to be manager. Cant wait to see what players he can attract to join aswell maybe victor moses? lol. Suppose hes done well at swansea and wigan with no money and wander what hed do with a bit of money if he gets it! whats everyone elses opinion?

 

 

17 May 2012 20:13:38
I dont understand why people want rafa back..The football he wants us to play will put us all to sleep again..Gerrard will be bck on the right wing again..The amount of money he had over the years he was there and how many good players did he get..One of the best players he did buy he sold him to try and get barry..This is my first post on here as i just cant believe what some fans say on this..Only last week many fans was saying get rid of the king and now its get rid off the Americans but them same fans forget with out them buying are club we would be where Rangers are now..At the end of the day we just have to get behind what ever Manager comes in..I would like a English man to do the job but not that many good English Managers around..Maybe Gerrard as a play coach as what ever that man does he is the best..I dont know what you think of that??

Alonso...Reina...Torres...Mascha...Agger...Arbeloa...Johnson....Garcia...Kuyt...Lucas..etc, etc, etc.

Yes he bought crap as well but the net spend was always very low and considering the crap he was left and the team he slowly built for 2008/09 season he didn't do that bad!

I think who ever gets the job has to be right in many area's but not a previous proven winner! Fans are so fickle, it is like a unknown player that becomes something great when given the chance at a better club...The same could be for a young hungry manager that wants to show just what he is about!

Jon LFC

2 Champions League Finals asleep through that did u?
Gerrard right will he eck only played there cos no money to buy one diff under new owners
Alonso - Barry complete myth Rafa wanted barry for years alonso left because he wanted to move to a bigger club didnt have much time left on his contract so rafa tried to sell while value high
KK performances werent good enough
Do we heck hodgson ring any bells
Couldnt careless about nationality for Liver Job england yes liverpool no
HA!
your wrong thats what i think
RAFA come back

They will only start thinking once people like you start signing your posts....

LiverBird

How many good players did he get?

well..... Raina, Skrtl, Agger, Johnson, Maxi, Garcia, Alonso, Mascharano, Lucas, Torres, Kuyt, Crouch and well i'v had a few shandies so will stop before i make myself look silly but hey thats a bloody decent list.

 

 

17 May 2012 20:13:26
Ed, all
Do you think Kenny will be told to stay away from Anfield ?
Any new management set up will not want to see him around, even if it's just at the match, especially if it's a less experienced man such as Martinez.
I can imagine the crowd breaking out into the "Dalglish" chant at sight of him in the stand.
Why does the club end up getting these things wrong ?
Again !
The Real KB {Ed022's Note - He would not have been told to stay away from Anfield, probably the opposite.}

Maybe Kb because our esteemed owners live on another continent (or planet) & really know very little about "soccer" & therefore have to rely on input from other sources!

The Irish Rover

 

 

17 May 2012 20:12:50
Martinez 27% win record...Sounds really encouraging..
He may be young,But you dont become a good manager fighting relegation for the last 3 seasons,If he's installed as manager,It shows a total lack or respect for our great club also for mr k dalglish....I'm starting to worry about Mr J W Henry

He managed wigan were you expecting a win ratio leaning towards the 60's?

He was managing Wigan, what are you expecting? in the toughest league in the world with clubs like Utd, City, Chelsea, Liverpool and so on! Some people need to get a grip!

Jon LFC

And what win ratio would avb or rafa have if they managed wigan with there limited resources i think he's done a good job and could be what we need? RED KENNY

I'd say Rafa would have a higher win percentage than Martinez at Wigan!

 

 

17 May 2012 20:12:50
Who would you guys prefer de Boer(Believable) or Martinez(Unbelievable)?

 

 

17 May 2012 20:10:51
There's only two candidates that are going to attract decent names to Liverpool and that's Benitez and Klopp! What is going on with us Martinez is a good manager but he's not an LFC manager! Poll done today on Sky and hands down Benitez is the man to have back in the hot seat. He got a raw deal last time and would be battling both for us as a club and his own reputation that took a hit thru the Cowboys reign of terror!

Why do so many people live in the past. It didn`t work for Kenny so why is it going to work for Rafa, He had 6 years and could not win the PL.

It is time for a new Manager, someone who will get into the top four. And I really hope it is not Martinez, Lambert or Rodgers as they are will do no better than Kenny Ross

 

 

17 May 2012 20:09:58
I aint over excited about MARTINEZ coming to liverpool but hes ambitious young manager that plays total football.

He managed swansea and got them playing like they are now and hes done the same with wigan two teams that beat us basically with ease, Hes has got them playing real good football and thats with crap players! so if he comes to liverpool and gets them playing like that with good/great players we could be laughing but no one says its going to be easy but i will give him a season see how he does

I am said to see kenny go how he did thought they would of been gracious and moved him upstairs give him comolli's job. But lost abit of respect for the yanks in how they dealt with him LONG LIVE THE KING!

ACHILLES.

 

 

17 May 2012 20:09:43
eds when will the new manager be announced because if its not soon my wife is going to kill me hogging the tv an computer help me eds
red rrab
{Ed022's Note - It won't be tonight or tomorrow put it that way mate.}

 

 

17 May 2012 20:09:20
Martinez, you have to be joking.

If they appoint him, or anyone like him i.e. unproven and someone who has not won anything, then I will not be going to Anfield again.

If Martinez is FSG's view of being competitive and aiming for the very best, then they and the club I love are in big trouble.

Angry beyond words!

ConnorsLFC

First dibs on your ticket please mate. I support LFC no matter what!

Every Newcastle fan 18 months ago was saying the exact same thing about Alan Pardew..

Have faith. Show support.

Stone YNWA.

Good, you not going to Anfield leaves room for true supporters mate. When you walk through a storm hold your head up high. Martinez could be superb if given time and backing by all.

 

 

17 May 2012 20:09:12
I think the owner appoint a Head of the director first. as few day's a go there was talk about Johannes Cruijff or someone like that who is football related and know footballer well. currently the man who dealing liverpoll is a marketing director. and owner also don't have good football background. don't rush for a manager and change it next year. take time and find the right one.

roman.red

 

 

17 May 2012 20:09:11
Whoever comes in we cannot punish him for not being kenny. We all need to pull together, i cant remember a team that is divided ever impressing or winning anything. If martinez is the chosen one then so be it, back him. Let the results and performances decide if he is good enough.

Woolyback andy

First sentence = excellent point

Puzzled

 

 

17 May 2012 20:08:15
I wonder how the Barcelona fans reacted after Guardiola was appointed manager...........

JRG

Do you know who Guardiola is?

Probably you dont know, hence this kind of question?

He is a Barcelona legend and their most celebrated player till date....even Messi pales in comparision....

If he stands for a post in election, people in Catalunya will vote for him with eyes closed......

He is theri Kenny dalglish, if its a better way of putting it......

LiverBird

LiverBird

No I had never heard of Guardiola until this season - thanks for filling me with your vast knowledge.

The point is he had no managerial experience when he took over at Barcelona and was successful. You even mention Dalglish who had no experience when he took over at Liverpool. The point is having a glittering CV is no guarantee of success while having no experience is no guarantee of failure.

Frank Rijkaard was relegated with Sparta Rotterdam for the first time in their history before getting the job at Bracelona and winning league titles and the champions league.

JRG

JRG,

You are mistaken here......

Barcelona have a philosophy in place the seeds of which were planted by Rinus Michels in the 70s....

Every coach in charge of Barcelona only has to tweek the system but even so its a well oiled machine.....

We do not have that luxury.....Kenny Dalglish had just started afresh with the pass and move philosophy but now the owners have placed us back again with the sacking of Kenny...

I am not saying we cant have a young manager but it only happens when there is a clear philosophy......

We are in for rough times if Martinez is selected.....

LiverBird

But who is to say we will not become this well oiled machine with Martinez and a new DoF? Until we give it a chance we will never know.

I am not overly happy about Martinez being interviewed and possibly appointed. I have said previously that none of Martinez, Rogers or AVB are any better than Kenny. But at some point we as fans will have to get behind a manager and support them otherwise every summer we will be sacking managers and appointing new ones.

JRG

 

 

17 May 2012 20:05:21
Apparently Pardew is also set for an interview at LFC whoever is advising the owners seems obsessed with the "flavours of the month".

Seriouly i'm not judgin the owners yet but after saying they want stability and a manager for the next 5 years etc. surely they can't afford to take a gamble or risk!!

These decision just seem rushed to me I mean yesterday Ian Ayre said they won't be rushed into an appointment and this morning he said that they haven't even finished a short list now were calling up managers for interviews ?

Whats your opinion on the whole thing ed? {Ed022's Note - It's very risky and a rushed decision in my opinion. However, if he is appointed I will give him my full support.}

Ed,

You think if Pardew or Martinez are selected, then they would last in the pressure cooker atmosphere of Anfield.......

I doubt it...I am beginning to feel very pessimistic now...

Just see the turn of events.......

1. FSG takeover and put a wage cap in place..
2. After a transfer inlay of 100 million and no top 4 spot, they go about sacking evryone from top to bottom.....
3. Skrtel wants a discussion before signing a new contract...
4. Kenny is fired uncermoniously
5. Suarez says he would like to play in la Liga
6. Liverpool ask for permission to talk to Martinez...

I can see raft of incidents none of which place us better than we were.....

I am really struggling to see how we can keep our star players if we start talking to managers like Martinez?

Please dont get me wrong...I could have understood if we talked to Rodgers and Lambert because they are managers who have taken their teams from Championship to EPL and then survived as welll....

Martinez has a single promotion from League One to Champioship to his credit......Neither does he have a playing career when compared to Lambert......

Plus he is a manager who likes to take his time to settle down.....We may give him time but will the players give him time...

Lets be honest.....The players have 6-7 years in which to aim for glory....Will they sacrifice that?

I am starting to feel that FSG have sold a dream of titles but their action are looking like that of a mid table club owners.......

LiverBird {Ed022's Note - They wouldn't last if the pressure was put on.}

Maybe Kb because our esteemed owners live on another continent (or planet) & really know very little about "soccer" & therefore have to rely on input from other sources!

The Irish Rover

I'm Alan Pardew Ha Ha !

 

 

17 May 2012 20:03:57
Eds I heard we allready have a DOF do u knw its who {Ed022's Note - Nope we don't.}

 

 

17 May 2012 20:00:39
Hi Ed`s, what do you know of `Jen Chang` who is reportedly our new director of communications?

Thanks Matty P {Ed022's Note - Nothing at all.}

Big LFC fan and worked for Sports Illustrated.

dmedly

 

 

17 May 2012 20:03:25
Martinez was the first manager in Wigan's history to lose 8 consecutive games!!

Yeah, he sounds like a great choice!!

And Dalglish's record?

 

 

17 May 2012 20:02:39
BBC reporting that Steve Clarke handed in his notice when he heard about Kenny, but it was rejected by FSG.......

Top man Steve !

ps as soon as they get their new manager they will probably dump you too, but at least you showed loyalty and respect to Kenny. Your one of us now lad !


Tel 1949

 

 

17 May 2012 20:02:08
Wouldnt you say that the first proof in a new managers pudding would be who he decides to sign for the club?....If we dont get the calibre of player in along with the new man then id say we have a case for complaint but not until...........
The Guv 81-9 YNWa JFT96

 

 

17 May 2012 20:01:16
So it appears AVB martinez and rodgers are all on LFC shortlist according to BBC hope theres more out of those 3 prob go 4 martinez tbh

 

 

17 May 2012 20:01:03
I dont know if Macca can corroborate this but the Gaston Ramirez transfer hangs in the balance now due to the sacking of Dalglish, the fact that Suarez is definitely leaving and from what my father in Law tells me PSG have come in with an improved offer. Macca can you shed light? Miami_Red

Your father in law an agent?
If not, he knows nothing!

 

 

17 May 2012 20:00:28
Macca

Can you shed any light who's On the short list I am hearing Martinez avb and rafa ??

 

 

17 May 2012 19:58:53
martinez is a good manager, he laid all the groundwork at swansea n look at them. he played gr8 stuff at wigan and they were arguably the best side in last 3 months , i suppose he has to get a big chance at some stage, he wont be the only interviewed
5gold stars

 

 

17 May 2012 19:58:41
Well if any of the managers that we are thinking of talking to check this site out its sure to scare them off. What's with all the hating? Let's back whoever is fortunate enough to be employed by this great club. Then maybe with OUR help we can be great again.

Mike

 

 

17 May 2012 19:58:13
Hey ed just wandering what your opinion is on Roberto Martinez? Do you think he would be the right man for the job if he gets it?
Thanks {Ed022's Note - See other posts mate.}

 

 

17 May 2012 19:57:49
as a liverpool fan for over 45 years , i can say im not that worried ,for a few reasons if we do get martinez he cant do any worse than kenny , if he does fail then we get a new manager next season , and by the way befor you slate martinez he beat us , anure , chelsea , arsenal and allwithout big named players or spending millions , so before you want him sacked give the man a go hemight be our anser ,and before any rude comments , i would rather have AVB instead , ian ayre said they will oo at all posibilities , its getting exciting isnt it ,,,,,,,,mickey b y,n,w,a

Marine FC would of beat us last season!

 

 

17 May 2012 19:57:48
Hello Eds,
if both LFC and Martinez have permission to begin talks, does it mean he is the most likely candidate for the job?thanks {Ed022's Note - It means he is one candidate for the job.}

 

 

17 May 2012 19:56:15
Is it just me, or can I see history repeating itself with martinez, being it similar to hodgson? Admittedly hodgson came in at a difficult time at Liverpool with the owners and kenny being in the background, but isn't it time we get a 'big time' manager? Someone like AVB or Benitez back? What's your thoughts on this ed's?

Stevie_D {Ed022's Note - I'm getting a little sick of Benitez' name being thrown up etc, as he is not the man for the job. However, is Martinez? Well, only time will tell, but I feel a lot of us could be surprised, but I personally feel the likes of Gerrard and Carragher will dominate the dressing room and Martinez better be prepared to stand up to some ego's.}

Ed come on, be fair. Even if you don't agree with people putting Rafa's name forward, you've got to appreciate he's a massive legend and a fantastic manager. Please don't get angry. {Ed022's Note - Yes I'm not disputing that, but for people to constantly go on about how he 'needs' to come back and how 'all lfc fans' want him is utter crap.}

Ed022 your talking crap about Benitez! A class manager who love's LFC and he do'es know what he's doing his record speak's for it's self! {Ed001's Note - his record being that he failed once to bring us the title and he is not the answer.}

 

 

17 May 2012 19:55:40
Eds/Macca
Is it possible that Muniain and Soldado (2 Spanish internationals) are targets of the incoming management team rather than the outgoing KK and Comolli? It strikes me that these players would fit more with a DoF, such as Tixi, and a Spanish manager than they would with KK. Cheers SP {Ed023's Note - Only time will tell mate, targets are all changed as of now so forget the players linked in last few months}

 

 

17 May 2012 19:54:31
Apparently Kenny turned down the compensation that was offered to him, telling FSG to put it in the transfer kitty! Legend

Taffytel

 

 

17 May 2012 19:54:23
Question for the Eds; so its safe to assume Martinez will be the man in charge fairly soon. I for one am optimistic. Taking nothing away from Rodgers, but he started the Swansea Revolution. He also plays good football with Wigan and with the limited funds and squad, I think hes done well. My question is that although he has potential, are we not signing a 'top class' manager (Mourinho/Guardiola calibre) due to the fact the owners are broke? Iv heard this a few times now.

INeverWalkAlone {Ed023's Note - I think there will be one or two more managers interviewed}

 

 

17 May 2012 19:54:00
Bloody hell man, all you fans commenting saying "oh dear, not martinez etc" PULL YOUR FINGERS OUT..
He MAY not be the right person for many but what kind of confidence will you be giving him IF he is selected!!
Jesus, even if a person from the championship is selected il be singing his name at the top of my lungs!!
Plus, FSG will hold interviews with a couple more and then choose the best to suit thier plans..
Jheeze!
RedSox69

 

 

17 May 2012 19:52:43
Benitez new D.O.F #Fact

Redder than red.

 

 

17 May 2012 19:51:25
Ed don't you think the negative views of the fans towards Martinez will prevent FSG giving him the job? {Ed023's Note - No, the owners will make their own minds up. There will be more interviews done}

 

 

17 May 2012 19:44:17
Somebody said if it is Martinez. Back him !
Sack is spelt with an S not a B.
Altogether now :- Martinez does not have silverware !
This is ridiculous !
Liverpool need an A-list manager.
Wigan were almost relegated. Get real FSG.
You should not even be considering him.
This is all getting pathetic.
Stupid septics.
Only AVB, Rafa,Laudrup,Van Gaal, Klopp,Loew and Mourinho will do.
Don't be cheap FSG.

Don't you think that's too many men for one job? Bit of overkill don't you think?

Jman

I didn't know 38 was a make or break year for a manager. fergie hadnt won any trophies when he was 38 look at him now redknapp hadnt either

 

 

17 May 2012 19:42:40
I hope FSG knows what they are doing.

This f##king ridiculous. I would stick with Kenny any day rather than Roberto Martinez.

However anything is possible in football, thus I would be happy If Martinez turns out to be another Alan Pardew or a better manager than him.

My advice to fellow fans is though we might not be happy these ppl becoming manager, but if by any means they get appointed we have to back them & show support until the time comes when we feel he is not doing any good.

If someone like Martinez is to be appointed, I guess
an experienced DOF would be working along with him, guiding him. Either way FSG needs, must & would be splashing cash this summer.

And what a great person Kenny is refused the package offered for leaving.... That's why he will always remain to be our King. Loves the club more than any of us.

YNWA! Hoping for the best!

Bosco

 

 

17 May 2012 19:50:42
Macca is definitely Gary McAllister...
Eds surely u will agree ? {Ed022's Note - Nope.}

ED022 do you know who Macca really is ? {Ed022's Note - So what if I do?}

Stive macmanaman :) also called macca {Ed022's Note - Wrong again.}

Mcateer, mcmanaman? {Ed022's Note - No.}

I'd he a common man who has a friend in the know who shares information with macca, thus making him in the know. Or, a a something what public name, not famous, but can find it on the Internet.
AnfieldUSA {Ed022's Note - He is a superhero.}

Editor of RAOTL?

Oh crap. I know him. BRUCE BANNER!
AnfieldUSA

 

 

17 May 2012 19:48:52
Just my thoughts on condition of our club:

First of all King Kenny was not hired to be permanent manager. He was just bought in the position because we needed a manager really bad and he seemed like the best choice at that moment. He gladly accepted the position and agreed to help the club he loved from all his heart. He had his ups and downs but he seemed to fall more than he could go up.

In my opinion, the contract termination of King Kenny by FSG was due to couple of reason:

1) The team was not performing well, and the owner thought the team needed change in management, style of play and tactics in the game after finishing 8th in the league and failing to qualify for Champions League.

2) To protect the reputation of King Kenny:
During some of the game where we lost, fans were chanting to sack King Kenny. Fans forget that the man lead Liverpool in some of the worst time of the club. So the owners might have thought to let King Kenny go before fans turn an Anfield hero to instant zero.

All i am saying is its not completely owner's or King Kenny's or player's fault. There are some faults on our side too. We as a fan failed to support the team in some of the difficult times.

Now that we are looking for a new manager, I think its better for us to support any manager that owners decide to hire. We have our own favorite on who our next manager should be but its up to the owners to decide. (And I am sure the decision will be made for welfare of the club)

We can make our voice loud and criticize every move the owners make or we can make our voice louder and chant our club name in support. Its up to you.

JFT96 - Liverpool F.C. - "You Will Never Walk Alone"

Live-On-Pool

You are out of your mind!
Having been at every game we played during the season,not once did I hear our fans chanting to sack Kenny,and if any had there would have been a riot.If you are going to post then dont make up ridiculous s##t,you are a complete friend who obviously doesnt go and watch and certainly doesnt understand our fans.

Derek {Ed022's Note - Spot the word change.}

Looks like you don't come here enough do you mate? Before King Kenny was sacked half of the fans wanted King Kenny out and now when he is gone same people are gutted. You call them a real Liverpool fan?

You are true for some part, I am in Northern America and don't go to most of Liverpool's game and some of my statement is based on rumors i heard on papers and news but are you saying we fan are not to be blamed for anything that is happening with the club situation?

You might be a true Liverpool supporter but there are many who get behind each and every player and talk s**t after each and every game whether we win or lose.

My message to everyone is simple: Just get behind your team and support in times of sadness and joy, in win and lose. And please do not talk s**t about our club.

Live-On-Pool

PS: I made it easier for you Ed022..

Whilst appreciating your right to air your opinions I must point out that you should read a post correctly before replying.
I stated that at no time during any matches were the fans chanting for Kenny to be sacked,you seem to believe we were,this tells me you are just a keyboard clown who bases his opinions on hearsay and not reality.

Derek

I think my point did not get through your thick head. You must be a kind of fan who only supports the team in time of win and I am sure you are one of the fan in the stadium booing us after our loss.

Read the post well before replying...

Live-On-Pool

 

 

17 May 2012 19:47:01
With FSG - image appears to be one of the main qualities they look for, especially in a manager. Martinez is very eloquent in tv interviews and very approachable. AVB doesn't quite fit the bill due to his bullishness so i think he will be discarded. Rodgers is very similar to Martinez but he failed at Reading, agreed he wasn't given time but i think this fact could rule him out. Klopp would be ideal but i can't see him turning his back on a crack at the Champions League as Dortmund were poor this season in CL. Guardiola is taking time off so it won't be him. Rafa divides opinion, i for one enjoyed the ride especially the title battle, 4-1 at Old Trafford, CL 2005 and the run to CL 2007. I'm not blind though to the excessive wages paid to poor squad players that crippled the club and the dire football played in his last 6 months.

I honestly think Martinez could get it, i tipped him for the job in April. He ticks the boxes for FSG from a corporate image viewpoint. His teams play football and he sticks to his principles. At this moment in time he is the perfect fit. Martinez wants a chance to prove himself and his football philosophy. LFC are in the doldrums and they need that vibrancy Martinez could bring. Don't however think we've hit rock bottom - the wrong managerial appointment and we could drop further.

Everyone needs a chance at the big time to prove themselves. Mouriniho was given a chance at Porto, Shankley at Huddersfield, Guardiola at Barcelona. LFC could make this bold offer and i for one will be delighted.

JanMolbyFan

Great post...Rome 77

Appointing Martinez will be a disgrace and will show FSG for what they are. Unambitious, cheap owners with no idea.

Give the owners a break will you and lets just see what plans they have in store for OUR great club

 

 

17 May 2012 19:46:33
cant c why everyones slating martinez he plays good pass and move football. and lets face we havent been playing like that for months

Most of us not anty martinez just worried as he never mange a top class team. he fight for save his team from religation but not fight for top 4 or win epl.

In the last quarter of the season, his team played the best football in the league.

I think Martinez will do slightly better with better players don't you ? Remember - even Avram Grant managed to get Chelsea to a Champions League final.

 

 

17 May 2012 19:46:17
I will just say that all the big names we want to manage our club they all started from small jobs at small clubs (most of them)
So if it is martinez or rogers or AVB or rafa now this is most important appointment for our club.
All of them are gents and good respected indivisuals.let's stand behind manager and fsg let us roar together.
I again say case of Juve they came 7th got conte from seria B and they won seria A this season..
Be honest did anyone of us heard of conte before?
Answer is no..
Now he is toast of italian footballl after a unbeaten season.

Red indian

So lets get conte then

 

 

17 May 2012 19:43:27
is steve clarke still at liverpool or not? i ask because i keep hearing different things and i believe it would be a shame to let him go {Ed023's Note - He's still there}

 

 

17 May 2012 19:43:16
Part of a artical from the BBC"
"On Wednesday, sources close to Henry were keen to stress the American owners do have a clear vision for the future of the club and are likely to appoint three senior directors in the coming weeks.

This would suggest that the terminating of Dalglish was planned sometime ago along with the rest of the hierarchy clearout and that short lists of targets for manager and the various directorships have been drawn up for a while. Macca's report of a few weeks back regarding major changes about to happen would appear to be smack on the button. It wouldn't surprise me if by the start of next season an announcement has been made and confirmed regarding stadium plans. I think basically FSG has used the last 18 moths to stabilise. Now they intend to start putting their plans into action. RED LENIN

Appoint football related director then ask them to find a manager. not the marketing director find a manager.

 

 

17 May 2012 19:42:53
i cant believe what is being reported on sky we have approached martinez NOT GOOD ENOUGH we are going to approach a number of candidates for the job does this not make us look mickey mouse like the last yanks used too? if they don't appoint a proven manager with top class experience of managing a big club we will be finished as a big player in world football for years this in my opinion is the biggest moment in our great clubs history lets see how much these yanks know.i would appreciate eds or maccas views on what i have said

 

 

17 May 2012 19:42:32
Regarding Martinez, Rogers etc and them coming from a smaller club. This can succeed, don't let Hodgson ruin opinions. Moyes came from Championship Preston 10 years ago and would be considered a success. Would probably have been great if he had gone to a top club and will probably be Man Utd manager pretty soon. Have faith and lets be a bit more positive people!

 

 

17 May 2012 19:42:16
Question for the Liverpool supporter Eds,

Do you have the same confidence in FSG and you did when they first took over? {Ed022's Note - Yes.}

Yes, me too. And I trust that they will make a sound choice when selecting the new manager too. And as long as their choice plays a) good football, and/or b) winning football I will support whoever they choose. I do not believe that they will choose someone who plays the dire, negative stuff that we had to endure under Roy Hodgson.

 

 

17 May 2012 19:42:09
Just saw on BBC website that Steve Clarkes resignation has been rejected. So is he still gonna be assistant manager ? {Ed022's Note - Depends upon the new manager, that's what I've been told anyway.}

 

 

17 May 2012 19:41:57
I would like
Managing Director- David Dein
DOF- TIXI whatever his name is
Manger- Would love to have Jurgen KLOPP.
BUT if we get Martinez would like to see RODOLFO as a 1st team Coach.


F5

You want Tixi whatever his name is, but don't know his name?

Rugby Parker

 

 

17 May 2012 19:41:02
Is Ed001 better yet? {Ed022's Note - Yes. He unfortunately suffered an injury whilst saving an old lady from a mugger.}

Did the mugger have a Bostonian accent !?
The Real KB

{Ed022's Note - I believe it was actually a Cornwall accent.}

I bet HE was the mugger

Puzzled

 

 

17 May 2012 19:40:40
Would Whelan of Wigan be so open with revealing the Martinez talk because he genuinely doesn't think he will get the job? Surely he wouldn't want to lose Martinez and coming out publicly wouldn't help his cause if he does?
OLl

Think I read somewhere earlier in the week that Whelan said he wouldn't grudge Martinez getting a big job, that's how highly he thinks of his manager, he wouldn't hold him back. Sign of a decent chairman and a valued manager to me.

Rugby Parker

 

 

17 May 2012 19:40:09
We seem to be lurching from one nightmare to another. The job was to big for Roy and it will be the same if Martinez gets it. He has done and is doing a great job at Wigan but there is a massive difference between managing them and Liverpool. There should be a shortlist of Klopp,Rafa and Mourinho. Only a manager of this stature can get Liverpool moving upwards again. I will always support LFC whoever gets the job but it could be a long hard season ahead with fans patience beginning to run out.

J.R.

 

 

17 May 2012 19:39:31
Martinez
What the hell, young, looks and speaks well and gets his teams, Swansea is his players and Wigan playing the right way, let's see what he can do with quality players, and they are...
Support Your Club
Pistolpete

 

 

17 May 2012 19:38:53
{Ed022's note - Just thought I'd say that as long as I am editing on the LFC site, I refuse to post things referring to Twitter, or asking me to evaluate the reliability of sources from Twitter. I will say this once and only once, Twitter is full of individuals who enjoy making up stories/guessing possibilities in order to gain followers and exploit fans. If you lot choose to believe that then good for you, but don't waste my time, or other Eds time by asking us questions regarding Twitter, because we do not and will never care. Thank you.}

 

 

17 May 2012 19:38:51
Not a rumour.....just a bit of a rant!

I think everyone is overestimating us as a club now. We are no longer one of the 'big 4' and to compare what we do to City, Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea is not going to help as we arent at their standard any more.

If we get Martinez....give him a chance! He has done an incredible job with the resources he's had available. Give him a £30mill transfer kitty and lets see what he can do! Lets all stop moaning that we arent getting a 'top' manager....and that we dont have £100million to spend.

Also, our owners have done a spot on job (especially if they give Suarez the boot). They gave us money when they came in, which was spent in the worse ways imaginable. Hopefully they will persuade David Dean to run things behind the scenes. So lets not start slating the owners.

For once, can we all get behind the decisions made and not make it a near impossible hill to climb for the new manager (like we did with Hodgeson).

Ps awesome site.

Craig

Fan base, quality of management and ownership, revenue base - these things matter. Whether we are or not in a "Big 4" is meaningless.

Suarez the boot ? idiotic ! our most creative player by a million miles,just lacks the quality team mates to turn L.F.C. back to the kings of football.

 

 

17 May 2012 19:38:49
Lads I'm as disappointed as you are about Martinez but if a very good DOF is appointed it could turn out to be a good move.
We all know who we were linked with when Roy was incharge, the same will probably apply if Martinez is appointed. If we have a Very Good DOF who is incharge of signing players there is no reason why he cant be a success.
My worst fear is we finish mid table and he is sacked, or he loses the dressing room and the Kop calls for is head. We would then be in the same situation as last year and slipping even further behind the top4.
I really feel it was a mistake to sack kenny buy nothing we can do about it now.
We have been through the bad times on a number of occasions as Liverpool fans and now FSG want us to feel like this...
I haven't slept proply since Tuesday and feel angry and depressed, I don't think I'm going to sleep tonight worrying about the situation our clubs in.
I think I'm going to listen to the famous kop full blast to try and make myself feel better.

Please FSG, for the sake of our club and the millions of fans out there, please get us a world class manager, a reasonable budget and put us out of our misery.

YNWA
TIZER RED

 

 

17 May 2012 19:38:48
{Ed002's Note - I would be most surprised if Klopp is an option at all. Didier is available of course and I suspect there may be interest. As an outside option, I would recommend Girard.}

I'd be worried Ed002, if FSG decided to appoint an 88 year old philosopher ...

Stone YNWA.

 

 

17 May 2012 19:37:09
Any word from Macca? {Ed022's Note - He has said he has no idea on what is going on, the same as we Eds.}

 

 

17 May 2012 19:36:40
just dozed off and had a dream that fsg were thinking of appointing martinez.............

oh dear..........

 

 

17 May 2012 19:36:28
Ed when do you think a decision will be made? {Ed022's Note - With what?}

On what colour the new wall paper will be in the changing rooms ed022 do you think they will go for the fuscia or the tangerine {Ed022's Note - I'm a big fan of fuscia to be honest, really makes my eyes pop!}

 

 

17 May 2012 19:35:03
Ed002, you say Rene Girard would be your ideal choice, would he even consider leaving Montpellier for Liverpool? Has a really good side and star players, if he stays they could go far in the CL.

KT!

 

 

17 May 2012 19:34:58
eds i feel like crying literally.. how on earth can u sack kenny and replace him with an inadequate replacement in martinez. sure the guys a good guy but come on his team play rubbish the whole season and then last 10 games up thier game. shambolic.

simon hill

His team wasn't playing badly but wasn't getting the results they deserved in the first half of the season (a bit like us), but Martinez had the tactical nous and the balls to change his team's formation around and make the players he had at his disposal into a very good team. He took Jean Beausejour from Birmingham's bench and turned him into one of the best wingers in the Premiership. He moulded James Macarthy into one of the country's best young players. And don't forget, it was him who made Swansea into the passing machine that they are now. Personally I hope we take a chance on him, the guy is class

Stell

 

 

17 May 2012 19:33:47
Can't believe the level of negativity about Martinez. He is a good, exciting young manager, that advocates attractive football and good teamwork. He turns average players into good players. Don't expect superstar signings either but good, hungry young players who want to come, not for the money but to play and help a team reach the summit again. I for one would be delighted to see Martinez get the job

U my friend clearly no nothing about football..can amir khan beat david haye in a boxing match thats wat the equality is if martinez gets the job

Would someone who managed Carlisle United, Grimsby Town, Workington and Huddersfield Town possible make a second tier club into one of the best in the country? Would someone who previously managed East Stirling, St Mirren and Aberdeen develop the best team in the PL? And could someone who's only managerial experience was looking after the "B" team go on to manage a team that is recognised as the world's best club team?
Not saying Martinez is the man but please lets have some reasonable points!

They were very different times mate. Before live tv, instant press and social media judge and jury, and millionaire egos.
If Kenny get's a year, then that's the measure as far as I'm concerned now.
The Real KB

 

 

17 May 2012 18:56:59
So eds what u think i think its a poor decision {Ed022's Note - I think it is a decision which is very unexpected, and is very risky.}

 

 

17 May 2012 18:56:52
Ok voice of reason, lets not hang a man before hes done anything, im more concerned about how were supposed to be having this LFC tradition of news in house and in the last few days its nothing but gossip on the tv, now Wigans chairman announces a phone call from Liverpool?!......
It just gets better, If he gets the job ill back him lets face it boys whether you wanted Guardiola or not you cant deny he got Wigan near unbeatable towards the end of the season and just because he had limited funds etc at Wigan dosnt mean he cant do anything with a transfer kitty to spend, one thing he isnt is another Hodgson, hes fresh and new with fresh ideas to take us forward and that is a fakt!
Give the man a chance we all might be surprised!
YNWA JFT96 The Guv 81-9

 

 

17 May 2012 18:55:31
Liverpool to approach a number of candidates, according to Sky Sports News....Rome 77

I hope Martinez is just part of the due diligence process. Surely there must be other more experienced candidates in the mix?

The Liver Bird

 

 

17 May 2012 18:55:26
Calm down... Your forgetting sky have a major online betting company, sky could be over selling the story to make money.
Just a thought.. {Ed022's Note - Very well spotted.}

I bet that bloody Dave Whelans in on it too......and proberbly Rooneys dad...smf

 

 

17 May 2012 18:51:36
It's right what the saying goes you can't please everyone,I mean people are already having a go at Martinez even though he's not even our manager yet,give the bloke a break he can't do any worse than our previous managers,yes IMO I would like somebody,but hes the media darling at present like Roy was but any apoinment is a gamble we could get the best and fail so like shanks said we are all united we are Liverpool cheers Pk

 

 

17 May 2012 19:33:36
there was rumers that if Harry go for England job then Martiez will be the choice of Tottenham so that guy sure have somthing in him. I still Prefer Unai Emre . as he face team like Barca and Real and did well too . Barca draw twice with Valencia and Real fail to win in their won home.

R-R

 

 

17 May 2012 19:32:41
If they sacked Kenny to replace him by MArtinez or any other noname coach, they know nothing about football and should stick with baseball or Nascar...

Sorry, I just couldn't understand that

Marc

P.S. long live the KING

 

 

17 May 2012 19:31:38
just wandering eds klopp is coach of dortmund who won the bundesliga for the last two consecutive seasons. what sort of football do they play is it attacking and attractive ? i know that the cb partnership of hummles and subotic is one of the best in europe and that gotze levandowski and kagawa provide attacking threats but i only watched them twice against arsenal, the first time they played some good stuff but the second time they weren't nearly as good would like your view cheers?
kwo500 {Ed022's Note - They play some great stuff, truly great. He has turned Dortmund from a relatively average team to a regular title winning side. His use of the youth development has been brilliant and has brought through some very, very good players.}

Alright this is the origional poster cheers ed {Ed022's Note - No worries.}

 

 

17 May 2012 19:31:13
Its not we dislike Martinez as a manager but is he any better than hodgson or KK not in my book Hope he doesnt get it no champo league experience and unlikely to make it with little fan support hope we interview several candidates

How can you say he wont be better.. he hasnt even joined yet

 

 

17 May 2012 19:31:12
I think that everybody who's already sniping at Martinez needs to calm down! He'll be one of many that they speak to. The only reason why any of us know is because their chairman has decided to mouth off to the press. As another poster has already said, that's a sure way to throw a spanner in the works, as FSG like to do their business behind closed doors. Matt

 

 

17 May 2012 19:30:48
Eds can you answer me this. Who is this backroom staff that is making these decisions? It's obviously not FSG because they are new to the sport. and with everyone gone; kk, sc, dc, pb, the media guy whose making these decisions?!?! Is it just Ian Ayre deciding and presenting to the owners? or a group of people and if so who is this group? Because who is still around? {Ed022's Note - It is more than likely Werner in my opinion.}

 

 

17 May 2012 19:30:42
I am shocked, appalled and disgusted that so many supporters take FSG's decision to sack Dalglish so personally.

He's latest managerial stint has NOTHING to do with his past stint therefore his sacking has only to do with what he has FAILED to do currently.

People have to get over it and realize that although he is dalglish liverpools greatest player ever, he messed up. all you of complain about our league standing and poor performances then criticize the owners for making the correct decision just because of who he is.

That's bang out of order

 

 

17 May 2012 19:30:03
Despite only an eighth place finish last term and no Champions League football on offer, the Liverpool manager's job can still be considered one of the most prestigious in the game, and there will be no shortage of candidates for the role. This is what the owners must understand and have to make there choice on who will be the next manager to take the thrown. Everyone im sure was upset seeing KK leaving but liverpool is liverpool and liverpool will always be liverpool and who ever takes charge we must all support him...Make us all proud again LFC and good luck to all managment to make the right decisions

 

 

17 May 2012 19:29:55
Am I the only one that likes Martinez?

I know people are saying he's not experienced, he not won this and he's not won that. But he's a young manager and has worked miracles for his respective clubs in Swansea and Wigan. He sticks by his principles to always play attractive, high pressing football and quality possession play.

All of his players including Gary Caldwell (see goal against us), play with great confidence and composure. I watched the Arsenal game recently where they went 2-0 up after ten minutes. They conceeded one after a bout of sustained pressure, but the second half was incredible. His players played clever counter attacking football and could/should have gone on to score more. Arsenal, who were doing well at the time never looked like scoring. All this considered when his team are scrapping for their lives, is quite remarkable.

Now I know a lot of us got burned with Roy in charge, but I generally feel that Martinez could build a legacy at our club. It's difficult to measure his scouting network, more expensive buys as he's not been at a big club. But he can certainly nurture talent as shown with Moses, McCarthy and McCarthur. I think he'd get the best out of Henderson and Shelvey, then introduce players like Sterling and Suso over the coming seasons.

He also has a great media presence, is well liked by other managers and hopefully wouldn't invite negative press, which sadly Kenny suffered given the Suarez t-shirt incident. I remember him sticking up for Rafa against Fergie and fat Sam, which is always a plus.

I know a lot want high profile or glamorous managers such as Klopp. But realistically would they come? Laudrup may be an option, but has he achieved more than Martinez? De Boer wouldn't leave Ajax at this stage I think and AVB didn't handle the press well and although I like him, he played very open football conceeding a huge amount of goals.

It's a tough call and I just hope that the board get it right as we don't want to be here 12 months down the line again.

Papa G

I want Martinez he will get us playing tremendous football.

Tom.

 

 

17 May 2012 19:29:48
dont stress with the bookies making Martinez odds on fave they are just reacting to the news that Whelan has confirmed they have asked to speak to their manager which is normal procedure.He is just one of a few candidates they are interviewing, apparently they have already interviewed AVB, this hasnt been widely confirmed as we didnt have to go through a club to speak with him. Others are due to be interviewed over the coming days.

 

 

17 May 2012 19:29:15
Jen Chang the new Director of Communications?

I'm getting a headache!

dmedly

Who ?
The Real KB {Ed022's Note - God knows.}

You've never heard of Jen Chang!! Yeah... Me neither.
AnfieldUSA

Ge'ez you lot...

Writes for sports illustrated, big LFC fan, @jenchang88 on twitter, would have been better as a scout as he has a good eye for young talented footballers.

dmedly

 

 

17 May 2012 19:27:52
Hi Ed now news comes that martinez given permissiomn to talk with lfc. Do u think he will be our new manager. and hw much budget u expect will be given to him. thanx. great site.
{Ed022's Note - It's impossible to say.}

Have you heard the news jounalist Jen chang is the new director of communications at liverpool ED? {Ed022's Note - Nope.}

I hope he is not the new manager we are going backwards if we appointed him in my opinion needs to be a big name in world football but at the minute their is no-one.We will probably get martinez because he will work with a low budget which will be a fortune compared to what he had at wigan.
JJ blackpool

 

 

17 May 2012 19:27:50
hey ed's/macca for the love of god can use please say that we are speaking to more managers than just martinez?

thanks {Ed022's Note - There is no news.}

 

 

17 May 2012 19:27:18
We need to trust FSG, they know what they are doing. Look at what they did at Boston Red Sox, yes baseball... But they are smart businessman that know what needs to be done.

Martinez, not my ideal candidate, but we must get behind whoever is in charge.

NY23

I'm looking, they are bottom of the league.

Couldnt agree more. and it was getting stale under the king

Note 'did' for the Red Sox.
Not going so well in baseball land at the moment.

 

 

17 May 2012 19:26:51
Apparently we have approached 4 manager's regarding the job Martinez 1 Rogers being another any idea the other 2 eds? {Ed022's Note - No because it's untrue.}

 

 

17 May 2012 19:26:47
Roberto Martinez is a great tactician seems to be a decent bloke , very humbled and dignified.

He beleives strongly in playing fast paced pass and move football which is something am sure we would all love to witness at Anfield once again.

He's kept Wigan up for countless seasons by implementing fast paced pass and move football whilst trying to build a team with limited budgets , fan base , facilities.

He was also the main reason Swansea are where they are today implenting a very strong philosophy of possesion keeping again fast paced pass and move, and got them from league 1 upto the championship loosing out in the play-offs in his second season unfortunately , from there he moved to Wigan.

Now am sure if he gets the Liverpool job he will main his belief of implementing a fast paced pass and move , possesion retaining philosophy.

The bloke could be a top top manager in the making , everyone has to start from somewhere and maybe just maybe this could be his break.

I would like to thank Dalglish for being a true servant to our great club , the bloke is a class act and I will never forget what he has done for our beloved club , the way he tryed to help the hillsborough families the best he could was a true testament to King kenny Dalglish am utterly distraught at seeing him go.

Goodluck Roberto!

Tom. {Ed022's Note - Good post.}

Now am sure if he gets the Liverpool job he will main his belief


Main was meant to be "retain".

Tom.

Well said think hel b a good appointment

Lets just get behind the man who gets the job we've got some great players ,if it's Martinez great most of the other top mangers want to know what's in the kitty for themselves before they even look at the club - lets have a manager with ambition first , maybe Martinez is that man - superb post Tom got me thinking

 

 

17 May 2012 19:25:26
I will always support the manager we have at the club and i will for martinez if he does get appointed, which is not definate i just cant understand it surely a more proven manager would be better for the moment then bring in a younger manager later on

 

 

17 May 2012 19:24:59
With Martinez being spoken to, does that mean we have a DOF involved in the interview process. Are we any nearer to finding a DOF if not
MIKEYRED {Ed022's Note - No it doesn't.}

 

 

17 may 2012 19:24:54
hi eds appreciate ye ve a lot of q s comin and
can only guess but do ye think we re talkin to martinez as he's the main target or simply one of a few they ll speak to ayre did say they d take their time
hope we explore all options to get the best we can
thanks {Ed022's Note - I don't know.}

 

 

17 May 2012 19:24:05
Hes as good as any of the others..Id like to see all them you name manage swansea and wigan ..even mourinho...

or for the regular slaggers
ees gud has enny ov the udders..id like to see al dem ewe name mnage swanzy an wign ..efen mourineeo..
terrible grammar on this site eds.
smf {Ed022's Note - Yes I know, it annoys us as well.}

This is one of my favourite posts ever, laughed until I nearly choked! Tanks man use iz da bizniz!

 

 

17 May 2012 19:23:27
Hi eds and fellow Reds.

just been on BBC TV Martinez in talks with L.F.C.
I think we can safely say he's our man now.

Red Robin.

 

 

17 May 2012 19:23:23
Martinez!! This has got to be a joke, don't tell me he's done well with no money most of the managers in the prem have had no money and most finished above wigan.Do you think utd,arsenal,Chelsea or city approach him if needed.I give up!! Graham

Your talking bull mate. i for one think he l do a lot better than king kenny

 

 

17 May 2012 19:23:14
Macca please tell me your still optimistic over klopp with bbc reporting weve began talking to martinez

Lfc4evaneva

There is ZERO chance of Klopp. He is not leaving Dortmund.

It will be Deschamps, AVB or Martinez.

PieInTheSkyMan

 

 

17 May 2012 19:23:11
Liverpool in approach for Wigan coach Martinez.

Liverpool were given permission by Wigan Athletic on Thursday to talk to coach Roberto Martinez about becoming the next manager at Anfield, a day after Kenny Dalglish was sacked.
"He's going there with an open mind," Wigan chairman Dave Whelan told Sky Sports News.

 

 

17 May 2012 19:19:27
Can't believe the amount of negative comments about Martinez. Honestly he hasn't even been confirmed yet and the poor bloke is getting slated. Give him a break people, he is one of if not the best up and coming manager in the country. He has a bright future, he will get backing from the board and a platform to prove himself. IF he is our next manager get behind him, get behind the team and get behind the owners - we all want the same thing. Success. YNWA

He will be sacked in 6 mts . do our owners know what they are doing is the question . martinez or avb these guys are having a laugh

I wonder of all the people who are posting negative stuff about Martinez, how many actually go to Anfield..As you say, whoever's appointed, get behind them for gawds sake. Like YNWA says, we all want the same thing. None more so than FSG. It's in their best interest that we're successful....Rome 77

 

 

17 May 2012 19:18:58
GOD PLZ NO MARTINEZ!
he reminds me of Roy, I'd be really disapointed if he would become new maneger....

as said before: my favs.:
-AVB (I think he could lead us back on roads of old glory, despite what happened with him at Chelsea(and btw I think it wasnt his fault))
-Jurgen Klopp
-Didier Decamps
-maybe even Girard (I really do not know much about him, but he did a really fine job with Montpellier)
-Joachim Low (anything on him, I noticed his name wasn't menitoned since KK was sacked)

Regards Luka

How can he remind u of roy. he plays good pass and move football sumthin roy or dalglish lately hadnt been doing

 

 

17 May 2012 19:18:24
reasons why dagleish should've been sacked:
the overpaying of :downing, carroll and hendo(i know he will be class but still)
not making the most of carroll and downing and kuyt maxi ect. due to squad rotation
the poor league position
we lost and drew against many teams lfc should be beating
how he conducted his interviews
the whole suarez affaire
the perfect manager has becomes available

reasons why he should have stayed:
we are playing some excellent football
our full strength midfield didn't play once
the average age of our team has decreased
the garbage is out and replaced with potential
he won us the league cup and got us to an fa cup final
he took us from a relegation battle when he first came
he bought enrique, suarez, bellers and coates
its not his fault we missed 7 penalties and hit the bar 20+ times. also in general we were missing at least 2 golden chances a game
we were competing with the best teams in the division
we had an amazing defensive record
our academy players were getting their breakthroughs: kelly, shelvey, coates, flanno, spearing(last season) even robinson and sterling got their cameos
he has built a team that can play with eachother for 5 years
he has only had 16 or so months
and lastly of course he is the king!

that is the last i will say on the matter i just hope we replace him with a top class manager who likes to play attacking football, i don't care about age i just want the right man. the owners are good owners, as long as they don't become too ruthless, and they will restore lfc to greatness.
as for kk your contribution to building a new era at lfc will not be forgotten and you are still the king YNWA.
derryred (p.s. help oliver walk)

Coates and shelvey weren't academy players

 

 

17 May 2012 19:17:25
IF Martinez is giving the job. Then it just shows how far we have fallen. On paper we look a midtable team, and with a manager like that it seems thats our aims. Sad days indeed.

Yorksred

We have fallen thru dalglish. martinez will get us playing the lpool way again

 

 

17 May 2012 19:16:13
Hi eds, I'm not sure if this has been answered, but is Roberto Martinez the only candidate? Or will they interview more then one person?
Thanks
Kabir {Ed022's Note - I'm sure he is not the only candidate.}

 

 

17 May 2012 19:18:12
Would really like the opinions of Macca and Steve Parker now

Why? And what do they know? The views of a couple of players? The views of the players are irrelevant. They will have zero bearing on who FSG ultimately appoint, any more than they did when Kenny was sacked. And nor should they. It's mostly down to them that he's no longer in the job. I foresee more than one being made to move on this Summer. Matt

I didn't want their opinions because of who they know I wanted it because they are more intelligent and than most posters on here and their opinions will be well balanced

 

 

17 May 2012 19:15:08
I can't quite figure out why everyone is so hostile at the idea (and that's all it is at this point) of Martinez. Yes, it's a big job and certainly a step up from Wigan, but that doesn't mean he's not worthy of a look.

- He handles the media well
- He plays good football
- With very little funding, his team does okay (including beating us at Anfield this season)
- He has a good relationship with his owner
- He's been remarkably loyal
- He wouldn't cost an arm and a leg

The only negative I can think of is he likely wouldn't attract 'big names' but a) a good DoF can counteract that and b) we're not really shoe-ins to get 'big names' anyway.

Is he unproven at LFC? Of course- almost anyone new would be. Kenny (no disrespect intended) was proven and look where that got us.

RDL

My local team would have beaten us at anfield this season

Best post mate ...your a realist and an optimist......very well thought and said..smf

You answered your own question when you said "his team doe's okay" we don't want okay!

Dav001

 

 

17 May 2012 19:14:48
Hi ed,eds + eddys I no I'm gonna sound stupid but without sounding to disrespectful who and what makes Martinez the perfect candidate for the he could just about keep wigan up and do you think rafa stands a chance he needs to finish what he started

Ramy :) {Ed022's Note - I don't know what makes Martinez the perfect candidate.}

Works on a low budget and has the chairman eating out of his hand for being a yes man and not complaining about losing his bigger players as the club is not prepared to met wage demands.

Just a few reasons, or am i being pessimistic?

 

 

17 May 2012 19:14:22
we have become the laughing stock of the footballing world sack the king that has won the league an chat to martinez that trying to stay in it some plan fsg we can say good buy to the league for another 22 years
red rrab

 

 

17 May 2012 19:13:57
Avb was awful at Chelsea and had absolutely no clue, and now we are apparently after him, am I missing something here! Riz

P.s eds how come majority of my posts don't get posted! {Ed022's Note - Because it's the same damn things being repeated over and over so a lot of posts are being deleted.}

 

 

17 May 2012 19:13:37
why do people jump to conclusions so fast, yes roberto is an option, but did any of you actually read the other bit on sky sports news, the bit that said a number of candidates will be aproached, so lets just wait and see

 

 

17 May 2012 19:13:03
No matter who the new manager is. We have to trust the owners and players to get it right on and off the pitch.
We all love attractive football but we have to put the ball in the net. Points make prizes at the end of the day so we need a manager who is tactically astute enough to overcome holding defence and the type of player who wants a shirt not one who sees LFC as a sponsorship boost.

 

 

17 May 2012 19:12:28
I am really worried for the next season. They are trying to give young unproven managers the chance to do ....ok...... And will give them 5 years. Yet they had a problem with kenny getting to two finals one cup and some outstanding performances where we was unlucky to draw or loose and not letting kenny have another season to rectify the problems. All these so called fans that wanted kenny out aren't real fans, bet the closest the get to Liverpool is on the Xbox or watching sky sports, not even putting any money bk into the club that they say the support( from there arm chair). It has really hurt me how these fans has become assassins and can't wait for success. This will happen next season and the season after were 4 th n 5th manager has come in and not won the prem. There is an old proverb that has worked for years and years " progress is a slow process " which these gob s**tes don't understand! I really am rethinking of why I should say I'm a Liverpool fan if this is what fans have become! Pathetic! Long live the Xbox generation

You tell them Scott, we should of given kenny at least one more season to see how he would of done..... But he's gone n I'd like to wish him all the best n say thanks for being our king once again.... He got everyone ( well I say everyone, but I mean our true supporters ) together like we should be........what we need now is a plan..... A plan over a number of years to try n achieve our ultimate goal of getting back were we should be.....keep the faith lads n let's get behind our great club n support whoever is appointed our next manager........if your not happy with our club then get lost n go n support those plastic flag waving Chelsea bums or join all those plastic fans who support man utd or city......we are Liverpool fc n we will rise once again...... You'll never walk alone

 

 

17 May 2012 19:12:08
Right so eds can u clarify this Is martinez being interviewed as a candidate for the job or has he been appraoched for the job and are in contract negotiations Hope its the 1st is martinez really any better than hodgson except his age? {Ed002's Note - See other replies.}

 

 

17 May 2012 19:11:04
Maccas sources dont seem as good as they used to be.

No one knows whats going on mate, players have no idea..

Cheers

Macca

{Ed022's Note - This is the real Macca, and believe me, we Eds can vouch for this. Everyone has been completely thrown off of what the hell is happening.}

Yeah, it's not like he said there could be big changes at the end of the season...oh no wait, he did.

Maybe Macca's sources have been fired! Who bloody knows!

Shall I utter the words CONSPIRACY?
AnfieldUSA

 

 

17 May 2012 19:11:02
So it looks like Martinez will be the new Liverpool manager. Maybe not who everyone wanted but he deserves his chance. He's a definate risk but could be exactly what the club needs, good luck roberto!

 

 

17 May 2012 19:10:54
With all this debate about whom will be our new manager, thought it would be interesting to look at potential managers and compare them against Premier league winning Managers:

Based on percentage of games won.

Alex Ferguson 57.92% (59.41% at Man Utd)
Jose Mourinho 69.49%(70.81 at Chelsea)
Arsene Wenger 53.48% (57.05% at Arsenal)
Roberto Mancini 56.36% (60.28% at Man City)

Potential Managers

Roberto Martinez 38.34% (26.77% at Wigan)
Brendan Rodgers 41.06% (44.79% at Swansea)
Didier Deschamps 52.32%
AVB 61.98% (47.59% at Chelsea)
Jurgen Klopp 47.17%
Marcelo Bielsa 53.06%
Quique Flores 46.83%
Jupp Heynckes 53.77%
Vito Pereira 50.72%
Michael Laudrup 47.77%
Frank DeBoer 66.15%

Whilst I know you can't base the appointment strictly on the amount of games they have won (Let's face it, if you manage Celtic or Rangers you're winning percentage will be much higher than someone who doesn't manage in a Micky Mouse league). It's frightening to think Martinez is being considered, as he currently only wins 1 in 4 games. (plus he only seems to manage during the last 10-15 games, so I suppose he'd save us money)

Anyway, the King is dead, long live the King. Please let our new manager be anyone other than Martinez!

 

 

17 May 2012 19:09:45
Eds, please post it took a fair bit of time to type ;)

So according to Sky Roberto Martinez has been approached for the manager's role. He is admittedely a very likeable manager, he has managed to keep a small team up for several seasons, by the skin of their teeth, while playing decent football. I'm sure many Liverpool fans would be against the appointment, but 95% of Newcastle fans opposed Alan Pardew at first, did they not? However, I strongly believe that if we get Martinez we will soon become used to finishing 7th, 8th or thereabouts, some reasons for this viewpoint:
- He has made Wigan a selling club (Antonio Valencia, Wilson Palacios, Charles Nzogbia etc.) and surely we do not want to become a club that ships out the best players we have.
- He doesn't really have a fantastic transfer history, bar a few decent signings (Al-Habsi). This summer if we want to get anywhere near top 4 next year, we are going to have to re-build and there are many positions that need strengthening or completely new players to play week in, week out. Is Martinez, a man who has managed so few teams, really the man to do this?
- I know a lot of people say that the club's name should be enough to attract the world's best, but a manager's reputation, experience, CV and future plans surely have some impact on a potential player's decision!
I am happy to get behind anyone who is appointed, but I think that FSG are making the wrong appointment if they do eventually offer him the job. I know it's not guaranteed or anything yet, but obvioulsy there is interest from Henry, Werner and anyone else who may be involved in the selection of the new manager.

Eds Your thoughts would be greately appreciated, as would anyone elses, Macca or regular visitors. Believable for Agree. Unbelievable for Disagree.
Cheers!

Djimi Traore

Wigan are a selling club because of their size, they need to sell players to stay afloat. This is not the case at Liverpool, he will not be forced to sell our best players.

And he may have sold Valencia, Palacios and Nzogbia but he also discoverd them and signed them for small fees.

JRG {Ed023's Note - Pretty sure Steve Bruce signed them 3 players}

Really? Then let's get Steve Bruce!

JRG

 

 

17 May 2012 19:09:07
any chance of René Girard, eds? {Ed002's Note - I doubt it, but he would be my choice.}

A 58 year-old off the back of one good season ??

Bonkers !!

 

 

17 May 2012 19:08:40
christ what are you lot on?
if we do get martinez support him!
bet if you was about when we got shanks you would all of said who?
give a man a chance everyone has to start somewhere?
i just dont understand why all you do is voice negative opinions
we are and always will be liverpool fc
paisleys slippers

If you havn't worked it out yet, it's the fact that they sacked kenny in order to get a cheap, unproven, bargain basement 'yes man'. Someone who will quietly do as he is told while the owners destroy all that is LFC.

I will support whoever the new manager, obviously. Doesn't mean I will trust these owners though. Looks like H&G all over again to me.

Nick

 

 

17 May 2012 19:08:35
Should point out that LFC expect to interview at least 3 and up to 5 candidates for the head coach job. Process could take 2-4 weeks.

 

 

17 May 2012 19:08:35
I am on my knees begging FSG to make Rafa the new manager of LFC. Where is the justice in this world?

 

 

17 May 2012 19:08:19
You know what, we are now officially a laughing stock and what's even more boggling, i'm laughing too.

 

 

17 May 2012 19:08:04
Whelan told Martinez, who has received rave reviews this season despite only narrowly avoiding relegation with the Latics, that he won't stand in his way of succeeding Kenny Dalglish.

"I was actually with Roberto when our chief executive called to tell him that Liverpool have made their approach," Whelan told ESPN. "That happened about half an hour ago, and I told Roberto that he had my permission to speak with Liverpool.

"I knew that the day would come when this happened, so it wasn't unexpected, he is a good manager so I am not surprised a club like Liverpool want him.

"You have got to regard Liverpool as a big club, so I told Roberto that I wouldn't stand in his way, it was up to him to decide, and I shall await his decision, it is up to him and Liverpool now.

"I can imagine he will want to manage such a big club but I would willingly keep him if I could.

"He only signed a new three year contract three months ago, so yes you are right I would be due compensaton, but I would rather have Roberto than the compensation."

Whelan told ESPN on the day of the Dalglish sacking that he would advise his manager not to go to Anfield, but when the call came Whelan found it tough to tell him to refuse

 

 

17 May 2012 19:07:57
Oh well...

It seems like Martinez & Rodgers are first in line for interviews.

Quick Poll. Martinez - Agree Rodgers - Disagree

dmedly

What about a button for neither!

YNWA jns

Unai Emre

Neither

The Liver Bird

Neither

 

 

17 May 2012 19:10:23
We are becoming an embarrassment! Not because of the owners but the fans on here ! How pathetic ! Get behind the managers stop whining if you don't like it support another team simple ! Always look forward never back some fans are finding it hard to do that on here !

LondonRed86

 

 

17 May 2012 19:07:52
If Liverpool appoint Martinez it is a joke. A manager that finished 15th in the league is good enough for a club as big as Liverpool. Pathetic. Proof that these owners are clueless.

We werent far ahead of them you do realise that? and i preferred watching wigan play then almost every other team in the prem

He finished 15 tag with Wigan tho u f***ing plonked ya. There team of players are hopeless except McCarthy and al habsi, learn more about football before you post crap

Why not Unai Emre that guy just leave Valencia . he take the club top 3 even his star player been slod last 2/3 years.

How can you expect someone with the funds and players at wigan to be finishing higher than 15th. Think about it son before you start slating him as a managerial candidate.

Well like ed001 said they were eleventh the season before he joined hardly improved them did he

 

 

17 May 2012 19:07:33
Evening Eds and all,
I have wiped my tears over KK sacking and now looking forward to what happens next.
Martinez given permission to talk to us, fear not fellow reds, from Ian Ayre himself, there are a number of candidates and Martinez is just one of them.
AVB and Laudrup are my realistic-ish preferences, but whoever they chose will be fully backed by me as I support the club and all that comes with it, have done for 30 years now... I am only 36 thought before any jokers make comment! Ha ha
Still exciting times.
Bazzaa
P.S. thank you Eds for updates so far.

 

 

17 May 2012 19:07:15
Eds do you know the other candidates liverpool are looking to approach, don't really think he's the best man for the job but willing to give him a chance...

KingMiz {Ed002's Note - I don't.}

 

 

17 May 2012 19:06:55
I take it most people can predict the future? Just assuming Martinez will be an instant flop, he's a very good manager both at Swansea and Wigan his teams played very nice attractive football I was arguing all day today with a work mate saying he shouldn't be just disregarded he's not really anyone's first choice(including mine) but if he gets the job give him a chance with alot better players I'm sure he can be successful. As a fan group I think we are far to harsh and quick to criticise sometimes.
Liverpool will approach a number of targets anyway so he may not even get the job! If he does poorly an only last a year at least pep will be available! (tongue in cheek)

Square tomato

Completely agree.
MIKEYRED

 

 

17 May 2012 19:06:45
At of all the managers out there we approach Martinez, I mean who is advising our owners is the question I want to ask? More than ever as we are not in the champions league do we need a manager who has at least managed a top team someone to guide us back into the top 4 who can handle big names and not afraid to drop under performers for young talent or just quite simply those who merit a place more. I am just speechless.

LFC4LIFE

Who's advising them? Maybe it's Alex Ferguson or David Moyes!! lol

Unai Emre, Van Gaal , Rafa , Capello all is out there. and they are free too. they have experiance of top class football. I am not anty martinez that guy did some great job but it's still a gamble to appoint him in top label.

 

 

17 May 2012 19:05:08
I dont see the problem with martinez.. he plays good football and people going on about pressure are ye expecting us to win the title next year? he will definetly improve us in my opinion and we could have a manager for the next 30 years here

The problem is that he manages a relegation side and we want top four i just cant understand it

 

 

17 May 2012 19:05:04
Hi all

Calm down guys, Martinez is one of many contenders the club are planning to talk too.

I'm told there are 4 other managers the club will talk too.

The_Insider

God I hope your right one of them rafa?

 

 

17 May 2012 19:03:54
Oh dear oh dear. FSG out!!!

 

 

17 May 2012 19:03:45
Omg Iv cant beleave lfc fans on hear martinez hasn't even sighn yet an he is getting slated how does any 1 know wot we will be like next season just shut up uv got to start some were top mangers like mourinho don't pop out of nowhere

Totally agree with you. I think his teams play attacking football. You have to learn the ropes somewhere. Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think Mourinho was ever a top player (did he ever play football?). He was a scholar of the game. Martinez has worked his way up in the leagues, I would back him if given the chance. He is ambitious and I think brave enough to knock some noses out of joint if need be. What he needs is our support. We have no God given right to be in the top 4. We fans must stick with whoever is chosen in bad times too, and not hound the manager out.

BTW a big NO to AVB, he proved he couldn't quite cut it in the Premier League. Under him Chelsea's defence was a shambles - there was no plan B. The Mancs/Chavs will piss themselves laughing if we employ him.

MidlandRed

Mourinho was bobby robsons interpreter at barca, sporting etc

 

 

17 May 2012 19:02:42
Lets wait about martinez, who knows he could be a real good manager we been needing. Do not panic fsg still have other candidates to interview . Well i for one will support who ever gets the job

paul ynwa77

He could be good manager agreed. but it's still a gamble . when managers Like Umre, Rafa, van Gall , Capello even AVB is there why we choice martinez.

 

 

17 May 2012 19:01:33
Singing his praises, on the phone to Sky/media 40 mins after Liverpool called....anyone would think Dave Whelan os looking rid of Martinez!

Not a good choice IMO

Ant

 

 

17 May 2012 19:01:27
Eds, a question for you.... If we have asked for permission to speak to Martinez l, does that mean he's our current preferred choice?

I personally would prefer AVB to fill the position, but obviously we wouldn't need to ask permission to speak to him. Is it possible we are speaking to both?

Thanks in advance. {Ed022's Note - It can mean anything, but I imagine it means he is one of our choices, not necessarily our only choice.}

 

 

17 May 2012 19:01:24
We want Rafa {Ed022's Note - Who's we?}

Most Liverpool fans {Ed022's Note - Some* Liverpool fans.}

Don't worry Ed it's the royal 'we'

JRG {Ed022's Note - Perhaps he suffers from MPD?}

Everyone {Ed022's Note - Oh come on don't be a fool.}

Havent u seen the polls? Even Macca wants him back much better choice than martinez u got to work on managers profiles yet ed022 ;) {Ed022's Note - I'm still considering it mate. If it helps a brand new profile will be up tonight.}

:) ed 002 is smat and Ed0022 is same . we should go a bit more experiance guy in top label Unai emre did a good job with Valencia . saw few match Real vs Valencia and Barca vs Valencia they both fail to beat valencia and my God that a very much attacking football by Valencia.

Ed is Right. as I like to see Unai Emre

 

 

17 May 2012 19:00:36
If Martinez is as smart as he looks he'll realise that Liverpool is a step too far for him at this point in his career and he'd be better taking the Aston Villa job. Here's hoping.

 

 

17 May 2012 19:03:18
Martinez, AVB, who next, you have got to be joking.
I will bet all you 'Kenny Haters' out there are feeling a bit silly right now.
'Careful what you wish for, as you may just get it'.

Its going to be a very, very long time before LFC are any sort of football powerhouse again, with the owners believing that the two above are 'viable candidates'.
We are truly a joke club, if this happens.

 

 

17 May 2012 18:59:28
I just hope Martinez is one of many to be interviewed!!

I do have faith in FSG, come on, surely it won't be this hasty!

 

 

17 May 2012 18:58:44
Hi ed's is it just me that's mis- read the the last breaking news on ssn,or i'm i missing something?Everyone seems to think martinez is first choice,did they not say they where approching a no of targets???chil everyone!!Please confirm for me ed's!cheers stu. {Ed002's Note - I expect others will be interviewed as well.}

 

 

17 May 2012 18:58:35
Ed's,

I've just had a moment of clarity! This is Dave Whelan's way of holding on to Martinez, by mouthing off to the media.

LFC wont be happy with that, as they plan to speak to a shortlist of names, including RM, Klopp, Benitez, Rodgers, etc. Hence, Martinez wont be hired.

Would back him absolutely, but FSG wouldnt be stupid enough to sack a club legend one day and appoint someone with no CV the next. Its all just part of the recruitment process.

Dont panic!

Red G

Actually I think they might be stupid enough! Why else would they be speaking to him?? Not happy!

 

 

17 May 2012 18:58:11
Eds if it's true that Martinez is going to be interviewed for the vacancy does that mean he is the number 1 choice or just one of many that will be interviewed? Really think Martinez is a bad move {Ed002's Note - I suspect they will look at others as well.}

 

 

17 May 2012 18:54:44
FSG are a joke they are creating more instability and dont seem to have a coherant plan or funds.

LFC are now about cost cutting.
Fickle fans called for YONKS OUT but then blindly welcomed FSG as the right kind of owners! Well sorry they are a joke that LFC will never recover from.

Hodgson then Martinez we are mid table crap!

Dalglish had lost the plot i for one am very happy with martinez

Funds...We spent 110 million...Get a grip..

Why does everyone think that by just speaking to someone they have got the job, I'm sure they will speak to a few from a short list before a decision is made....chill they wil get the right man

 

 

17 May 2012 18:54:38
Its the right one
Its the bright one
Thats Martinez................

30 years ago the Mirror would have paid me for a headline like that...
How come nobody drinks it anymore ..not even jimmy bond..smf

 

 

17 May 2012 18:54:01
Seriously Martinez? This can be a hit or miss. And a miss now will be a disaster for us. No one can predict the future but if there weren't any top managers available, wouldn't it be better just to keep KK for one more season and see who else is available later if NEEDED. In the end, I will support who ever is appointed.

Tekneek

 

 

17 May 2012 18:53:33
Something about ian ayre i just don't like. The smug look on his face makes me sick. Anyway get ready for more years of dissapointment martinez will be next manager.lots of wigan players at Liverpool next year. Martinez will still be in a relagation battle next year only this time with Liverpool.

Well hopefully one of them will b moses just what we need

I thought that about Ian Ayre he just gives off a vibe of arrogance to me?

 

 

17 May 2012 18:53:18
Roberto martinez are u having a laugh

Just having a chat at the mo...relax!

dmedly

 

 

17 May 2012 18:52:35
Is it possible theyre speaking to more than one manager? how the hell have they managed to find the manager they want in a day after firing KK when D.O.F still hasnt been found? gutted Martinez is the 1st choice

 

 

17 May 2012 18:52:25
I didn't agree with sacking Kenny - looking at the list of candidates for the job are they really any better than him?

But I will still support Martinez if he gets the job, the alternative is to go through this charade every season. His teams have always played good football and with Begiristain as possibly the DoF role it could be exciting times.

His record may not be great but everyone has to start somewhere, look,at Pardew's record before he took over at Newcastle.

JRG

 

 

17 May 2012 18:51:08
Ed(s) with martinez speaking to liverpool does that seem like hes the man they want, or you think were interviewing a few, but martinez is the only one we know in the news about? please dont let it be him . {Ed002's Note - It means that he will be interviewed but does not mean that others won't also be interviewed.}

Even the fact that they are giving him an interview is laughable.Maybe they will interview Alex McLeigh as well.

The Irish Rover

 

 

17 May 2012 18:51:00
why are we even contemplating signing someone like martinez. although he has done well at Wigan, it will be the same saga as when hodgson was appointed. Martinez will be out by xmas. We need to sign a proven manager, not gamble once again!

Like if you agree

 

 

17 May 2012 18:50:49
Jose mourinho has distanced himself from the Liverpool job. He has stated that he is not that special
Robbie

I agree hes not
soul man

 

 

17 May 2012 18:42:12
I'm not sure Martinez is the right man,but all us fans have to get behind him and the team otherwise they've got no chance ,we treated Hodgson like crap and if we do the same to Martinez we will have a poor season ,so lets get behind him if he does become manager and ya never no he might suprise us! Ynwa

 

 

17 May 2012 18:41:52
Martinez in = Reina out, Suarez out, Al Habsi in and Rodellega in - next season we'll be looking at 8th place with envy ! Is Ferguson advising FSG?

Al habsi was better then Reina last season so no problem there

Martinez will do a lot better than kenny i reckon

 

 

17 May 2012 18:41:46
All you who wanted kenny out i hope your happy with his replacement, Careful what you wish for and whatever you say its all to late now

Alday long you would of been happy if it was pep Guardiola but all he managed before barca was barca b team give home a chance he done well with the players he had and as a player a lot of respect in the football world you are all jumping on him too early. And you are the type of fan that wants kk to stay 8th in the league and kk him self said he would not swap the carling cup for anything i.e 4th place what a stupid thing to say I would with out thinking.oh and p.s Wigan played us of the park at times.

Your reply was a load of rubbish lad. Martinez if he does the get the job wont do anymore than kenny so where have the club moved forward. Your the type of fan who thinks he alone is right and your the only voice to be listened to. Other people have their opinion aswell as you so learn to live with it lad

It was never gonna be guardiola so why say it fella but martinez aint exactly top draw is he. I will back any manager who gets the liverpool job but kennys replacement had to be of a good pedigree thats as simple as that

Jesus my son could manage barcelona and probably win the league in his first season my son is only 4 month old by the way but with the players at barca he,d do ok

 

 

17 May 2012 18:41:43
So we've moved for Martinez. Interesting. While its only talks at this stage, I can't help but feel baffled. I really do like Martinez, I liked how he stuck up for Rafa during the Purple nose episode. I like the way he handles the media. He is universally liked in the British media.

However. If he becomes our manager he will be universally disliked by the British media and here lays the problem. We are club that is used for its popularity to drive media sales and "viewers". Negativity will not suit Roberto. The pressure will be unforgiving. He needs a strong buffer.

Kenny should have stayed. Ive never used this card in previous posts, it often doesn't mean anything, but somehow, and I'd rather not say how, I often get some news about Kenny. I was told today that he was very upset, and on Tuesday during a conversation, he was non the wiser about being sacked, and didn't even think it would happen. I know how the eds feel about the outside influences, and that may well be reason.

Lastly, just one word of warning. The owners almost have posters of Arsenal, Wenger and David Dein in their offices.
What does that mean to us? It means the fascination with Deinis his Arsenal money making format. Dein made a recommendation, Kenny may have to be moved on, as he isn't seen as the kind of "yes man" that works in his format. Wenget was that person, the kind of guy who knew that trophies are secondary to finance. e.g player sales, stadium priorities, media deflection and champions league. The owners have been informed that due to the lack of stature (Kenny is our king) of Martinez he is seen as a young Wnger per say.

I fear we are a club that is going down the same route as Arsenal. We may qualify for the champions league, but we will sell our best players, we will put our history of being be countries biggest and best club in he country to one side as fulfill the owners desire of turning a profit.

Regards,

D-Day (1892)

 

 

17 May 2012 18:41:13
Worried worried worried, not the man I think we need but if he comes in we must back him, it concerns me we won't attract the calibre of players we need.

Mo

P.s kenny might not bail us out of the sh@t next time.

 

 

17 May 2012 18:41:12
Surly not, please fsg look at the bigger picture

kevc

 

 

17 May 2012 18:40:35
Yahoo sport are reporting that LFC have been given permission to speak with Martinez.

If FSG seriously want to contend with Europe's elite, Martinez will NOT be the man that brings that level of success. He does not have the credentials or the level of respect (yet) needed to attract the quality that this club so desperately needs.

We need a proven winner at this at club at all levels. What has Martinez won?! His appointment would be a big big mistake and would see us in the same position this time next year, i guarantee it.

The Crow.

 

 

17 May 2012 18:40:22
If Roberto Martinez becomes ouer manager, WE MUST BACK HIM!

Red G

 

 

17 May 2012 15:13:02
Hi ed001

Whats your opininion of Klopp?

Thanks

Mac {Ed001's Note - he would be in my top 5 choices, plays good football and has won things.}

 

 

17 May 2012 18:50:37
out of all the managers that we are linked with we are talking to martinez :/ bravo FSG , i hope its just an interview and that all other managers have a chance to because ill be gutted if we have martinez no offence to him !!!

 

 

17 May 2012 18:50:32
FFS, will people stop complaining with every decision that is made, can we not just all try and pull together, support the new man, who ever it may be, and try and act like the supporters this club is meant to have!

 

 

17 May 2012 18:50:28
If skysports are right and henry is talking to martinez over the managers job, god help us we must be in deep trouble, and heres one season ticket that wont get renewed

Sweet, I'll gladly buy your ticket off you!

Great - only another 19,559 ahead if me then!

Luke

 

 

17 May 2012 18:50:13
Some of you people on here make me laugh, get kenny out, we want klopp we want that person. Then martinez is being interviewed and its oh he's a mid table manager we want guardiola. Make up your sodding minds, then u have the cheek to sign it with ynwa......well kenny is walking alone somewhere right now. If they give martinez the job i will give it one month if results don't go our way before its martinez out, we should never have signed him.

slimboy

The thing is, we haven't "signed" him yet

 

 

17 May 2012 18:50:13
I don't mind Martinez being linked, tactically hes improved, hes young and has a big ambition to succeed. To all those worrying about buying big players, surely the DoF will have a say in that and if its Laudrup or someone of similar stature i think it would be a great double appointment!
Cmon Lads lets get behind the club and have faith, it cant get any worse than 8th.

Digger D

"Can't get worse than 8th" Watch this space!

Dav001

 

 

17 May 2012 18:50:11
Just calm down a bit he is not the only one going to be interviewed its just the Wigan chairman likes the publicity so has announced it to the media that we have asked to talk to him

Wozza

 

 

17 May 2012 18:49:47
Ian Ayre's confirmed that the owners are taking advice off some very knowledgable football people. Dein? You were all probably right. At least we know we can trust them a little more..

 

 

17 May 2012 18:49:21
Just seen SSN and can't hardly believe what is happening. Martinez?!! This is insulting and proves once and for all that the owners don't understand this sport at all. Whoever is advising them...thanks for helping to sabotage our once great club. Can really see all those up & coming young stars rushing to sign for Martinez...not.

Bad Kop

 

 

17 May 2012 18:48:55
roy all over again look like a bad year small minded manger for a big club when we get Martinez

 

 

17 May 2012 18:47:50
As far as I'm aware the Director of Football is already identified and presumably involved in interview process. #LFC

 

 

17 May 2012 18:47:44
For all those that were wanting Kenny out because he wasn't good enough, you must be chuffed to bits now! Dalglish replaced by Martinez? And we are supposed to think that this is a step forwards? Who the hell is advising these Americans? When they sell Suarez, there won't be anyone left trusting them. My initial trust in these owners is evaporating quickly. I suppose that on the plus side, he's used to working with no transfer kitty, 'cus that's what he's going to get. Anyone else starting to get worried about our new owners?

Nick

 

 

17 May 2012 18:47:38
well the idea doesn't exactly fill me with confidence, seems like a completely unnecessary step when liverpool fans have, on the whole, been mostly optimistic since dalglish took over, and I thought if we were gonna oust him it would be for a big name.

That said, I haven't really got a bad word to say about martinez. He's doing a fantastic job at Wigan and he seems like a thoroughly good guy. And I'd like to say the same about Dave Whelan, he's always supported Martinez 100% no matter what wigan have gone through and its paid off each year, and everything I've ever seen him say to the media (including about martinez' link with us) has been thoughtful, intelligent, and better put than i could do. Top bloke.

Anyway if Roberto is installed i hope everyone can get behind him and give him the chance to prove what he can do.

x

 

 

17 May 2012 18:46:25
Eds is it true tell me it isnt so? {Ed022's Note - I'm sorry mate.}

 

 

17 May 2012 18:45:58
so wot they've asked to speak to martinez am sure they will interview other people aswell hopefully at least another 3 or 4 then decide which one is best for the job ,christ you never just interview one person for any position never mind one as important as the liverpool manager there will be at the very least 3 candidates for it , probably martinez , avb and deschamps will be the final 3 and for all those who want rafa back christ the club is still trying to get rid off some off the rubbish he bought !!!!!!

"you never interview one person" - Unfortunately, look at England with Roy. He was choosen before he even went for an interview

 

 

17 May 2012 18:45:27
Roberto marttinez eds?? Does he have a good connection in spain,, do u think he will be a good manager 4 us??
Basy {Ed022's Note - Well, it's certainly an unexpected decision to even consider talking to him about the managers position. Would he be the man to attract 'top' players, erm... probably not.}

 

 

17 May 2012 18:44:35
Lots of you wanted Kenny out. So I suppose that you would all like Martinez in. What were you expecting? All the talk of pep, Jose etc. we are where we are and don,t expect that fsg are not in this to make money for themselves. They will build it up for a couple of years on a low budget, wait untill television rights are more profitable then sell and make a nice profit. It's what they do. It,s ingrained in them to do these things. No sentiment, no loyalty just hard nosed business men. Kenny could have hit the jackpot next season, no one knows but bringing in martinez is a big gamble.
Robbie

 

 

17 May 2012 18:44:01
Liverpool are to interview a number of candidates, not just Martinez, confirmed by ssn

 

 

17 May 2012 18:43:49
I don't think anyone would have put Martinez down as first choice, but if he's employed as manager then I'll support him. At the end of the day, he did manage to get his team outplaying the majority of the big hitters towards the end of the season...just hope he can bring that tactical brain with him and resist lumping long to Andy.

The thing that scares me is, who's making the decision?

If it is Martinez then he needs to be backed big time and helped out with someone as capable as David Dein. FSG has always said how much they admire the Arsenal model. Well, put the right people in place to help Roberto and maybe we'll get somewhere.

-Shane.

 

 

17 May 2012 18:42:54
whats happening to this club? we bring in martinez? the wigan manger this is stupid why sack daglish for him well thats are chances of 4th dashed before the season has began swear are owners have no idea about football :/

JJ

 

 

17 May 2012 18:42:27
We go from one pair of clueless yanks to another pair. Who are advising these pair of morons to open talks with Martinez? Griff

 

 

17 May 2012 18:39:51
Hi ed's, do you reckon this summer will be another big spending one as it seems to have been for years now? IMO we really need to get hold of a decent squad and build them up...we're never going to get anywhere if our players don't carry out even half of their contracts....
Transfer wise, I've been told that we are looking to purchase Munian, Isla and possibly Jackson Martinez. Any thoughts?
Figired.

 

 

17 May 2012 18:39:24
Liverpool have been given permission to talk to Roberto Martinez....not who I would of gone for but will still support whoever the manager is
Kirby11

 

 

17 May 2012 18:39:18
So we sack a manager who's won the PL and potentially replace him with a manager who's biggest achievement is avoiding relegation. Oh dear!

 

 

17 May 2012 18:38:59
'we have a long-term plan for this football club to restore it to where it should be in European and English football. So it needs somebody that fits with all of the parts of that plan'

So on that basis we can rule out martinez and lambert. Klopp doesnt want to come and FSG arent going to be keen on hiring someone who rejected them a year a go Deschamps (spelling) and with expensive compensation. Rafa to get the job with a DOF eliminating their biggest fear about his control watch this space good times ahead

 

 

17 May 2012 18:38:06
People are slagging off Martinez before he's even been appointed. Give the man a chance if and when he is appointed. I know Kennys gone and it possibly wasn't the best decision but it's done and we cannot change that. Get behind the new manager whoever it may be, at least give them a chance.
MIKEYRED

 

 

17 May 2012 18:37:41
what a joke sack kenny for finishing 8th interviewing martinez finished 15th and thats a good season.they say they wanted a top manager you couldnt make it up.
tonywebbo

Oh yeah? look at the value of both teams last season. Now do you see why we finished the way we did?

 

 

17 May 2012 18:37:22
Martinez? Really?
To everyone who wanted Kenny out how do you feel now?

Chris in tamworth

Probably just one interview out of many but I agree with you Chris. Good call

Ultra Red

Didn't want him out mate. Now feel very, very worried.

 

 

17 May 2012 18:36:57
Hi,
Sky sports news - 'Liverpool to approach a number of candidates for manager's job'

Red Star's

 

 

17 May 2012 18:36:56
Plssssssssssssssssssssss plsssssssssssssssss not Martinez. Who are FSG listening to? this could kill our club. Absolutely no pedigree as a mgr, no previous success to speak of, very

experienced at avoiding delegation.
God help us plssssssssssssssssssss.
I am crying and in pain if this is reality.
Red first & last

 

 

17 May 2012 18:36:53
Nooo! Please not martinez :( sad times ahead, should never of got rid of the king.

Joshlfc

 

 

17 May 2012 18:36:52
This has 2 be a joke roberto martinez flying boston for disscussions for managerial offer...absolute joke this guy is 1 for the future but right now they want a lad fighting relegation battles to take a team 2 the top 4.....im astonished

 

 

17 May 2012 18:14:17
Macca/Eds SSN reporting we have been given permission to speak to Martinez. Really not sounding good, dont want this guy in charge. What is going on? {Ed022's Note - Well, I'm a little bit speechless as well as other Eds.}

 

 

17 May 2012 18:13:49
We have went from bad owners to bad owners!

Endless decline

 

 

17 May 2012 18:13:06
Martinez is the new manager. Absolute joke.

Ben the red {Ed022's Note - This doesn't mean the deal is done.}

 

 

17 May 2012 18:13:00
wigan have given lfc permission to speak to martinez.ed what do you think about this? readers is this a good move for lfc? agree/disagree
lfc4me

 

 

17 May 2012 18:12:51
Not a rumour just my personal preference.

Top 3 choices for me would be
Ian Holloway
Brendan Rodgers
Roberto Martinez

All young, good tactically and motivationally, play attacking football Prem experience and all good with the media

Flame on.....

FatJanMolby

 

 

17 May 2012 18:12:42
Can't believe we have permission off wigan to speak to roberto martinez,am I the only one who hopes the talks don't go well {Ed022's Note - Ed001 will agree with you.}

 

 

17 May 2012 17:49:00
Ed's do you think AVB you'd be a good manager for Liverpool and get us into the top four? {Ed022's Note - Yes I do, but many disagree with me.}

 

 

17 May 2012 18:36:34
I guess that now Martinez is going to be manager we will be in pole position to sign diame. He might also try to bring moses and rodallega

 

 

17 May 2012 18:35:53
thats it then martinez it sounds like, unless fsg are going to meet various managers ,and make a decision. errr not sure he is the man needed ,but hey what do i know.Time will tell lfcal

 

 

17 May 2012 18:35:17
We are talking to Roberto Martinez about the managers job. Confirmed by the Wigan chairman. To sack Kenny just to hire Martinez is an absolute joke. Wont be renewing my season ticket if this happens. {Ed002's Note - Dalglish was not sacked to appoint someone else. The reasons for the removal of Dalglish are to do with league performance and his handling of the Suarez matter. Give up your season ticket by all means, but if Liverpool win the first half dozen games with Martinez or any other manager you don't approve of, how log will you have to wait for another season ticket?}

 

 

17 May 2012 18:35:00
After the sacking of KK I was unhappy but was comforted by the belief that the owners would bring in a proven manager and had a plan to ensure success.The fact they have approached Martinez makes me feel that they have no plan and don't want to invest more money into the club. If this is the case we won't see CL football let alone challenge for the title in a very long time. Hate to say it and will always support the club but feel we are becoming a mid table side.

Starscream

 

 

17 May 2012 18:34:59
Wanted Klopp but I always thought it would be Martinez looking likely now

 

 

17 May 2012 18:34:48
I have to say I think we're making a mistake if we hire Martinez. The man's going to be a good coach, but I do fear it's too soon. I thought if we were going to sack someone like Kenny, then we would have big plans for an established manager, who has experience with a top European side, to step in and take the club back to where it belongs. We're not a club where managers from relegation battling sides make the 'step up' and I fear that we will not attract as high a calibre of player with Martinez in charge rather than a Deschamps or Klopp etc.

If we really did sack Kenny Dalglish just to bring in Martinez then I think FSG have got this one wrong.

RO YNWA {Ed002's Note - The removal of Dalglish was not to bring in Martinxz.}

Sorry Ed002, I didn't write that particularly well and didn't mean to infer that the two were connected, it's just that I don't think Martinez will be an improvement on Dalglish, and would have thought to make such a bold decision to sack Kenny, that other, more suitable candidates in my opinion, would have been available or approached.

Let's hope that the after the interviews for all potential candidates are completed, we make a swift decision and begin to get the structure in place for next season asap.

p.s. Would like to thank the Eds for reading through so many posts! Never seen this site so busy!

RO YNWA

 

 

17 May 2012 18:33:38
Martinez ?? Eds wots happening hope I'm wrong but him and Roy hodgson it's ok to win 40 % ov your games no pressure stay in prem that good enough but we Liverpool that's not good enough to win 4 out of 24 at start ov season there will be a lot ov pressure by fans media ex players etc etc if some one like that gets the job can they handle that will the owners after 6 months and being 6/7 in league think oh dear I hope they aren't that silly but I could be wrong {Ed002's Note - If he does join I guess you will find out pretty quickly if he can make the step up.}

 

 

17 May 2012 18:31:35
micheal owen on a pay as u play???? at least he knows where the back of the net is...... yes no maybe???
dh

Worst post of the day

I wouldn't take him back if he paid us £35million to join. As far as I'm concerned he ceased to exist the day he took the Fergie dollar.

 

 

17 May 2012 18:31:03
Very worrying martinez could be next manager.i feel sick.

 

 

17 May 2012 18:30:51
Ed 002 who is rene girard who does he manage?cheers stu. {Ed002's Note - Montpellier.}

Ed002 i had to google it the only rene girard id heard of was the french historian i thought it was the famous ed002 wit lol
riley

 

 

17 May 2012 18:30:40
Wigan have aparently let liverpool talk to roberto Martinez :/ why have they done this it is stupid they replace kenny with someone that is just like roy hodgson and who manged to finish 15th its ridiclous

cheers JJ

 

 

17 May 2012 18:30:38
Time to start the bring Back King kenny campaign - Roberto Martinez, they are truly taking the p*ss out of us now. Let's get a manager who's sole claim to fame is fight relegation 3 years on the trot.

If you are going to get a young up and coming manager - Rodgers is the only choice - plays the game the right way.

Don't think FSG realise LFC are only one of 2 teams in England that are a global brand.

Absolutely gutted if it happens.

John B

Don't like Martinez but in fairness Rodgers inherited his Swansea team. It was Martinezes blue print. Still underwhelmed

Wigan were actually bottom for a lot of the season. How can this be happening

 

 

17 May 2012 18:30:12
Please not Martinez we need to attract quality in and he won't be able to do that ! We ll end up with MacArthur and Moses ect not good enough for us by a long shot ! Really bad move to me look like the same hodgson move need to look abroad to bring the quality in !! He's not a big enough name to get the likes of de Jong / falcoa ect sorry to be negative but we can't afford another slip up !!

 

 

17 May 2012 18:30:09
Martinez it is then. Macca hang up your boots

 

 

17 May 2012 18:29:55
Dave Whelan grants Liverpool permission to talk to Martinez, utterly amazed, gamble, lowered ambitions etc I will support whoever we appoint but not sure this is a step forward.
Red Derry

 

 

17 May 2012 18:32:46
Calm down guys, i'm positive Martinez is one of many possible contenders fsg are planning to talk too.

I'm hoping Fsg will speak with:

Avb
Klopp
Deschamps
The Bilbao manager Bielsa
And the Gladbach manager Lucien Favre

Dan

 

 

17 May 2012 18:29:17
So we've gone straight for Martinez a day after sacking Kenny.

That's it then is it? No attempt to sound out a more experienced manager? No Klopp? No attempt to recall Rafa?
Absolute joke.

I have nothing against Martinez, he seems like a nice bloke, but he's really not done anything special at Wigan in 3 years. They were "brilliant" for less than half a season, and poor for the rest of it. He may be good enough, but he just has no track record, he could equally be s**te. This is a huge risk by the owners and it honestly looks to me like someone at the club's let themselves be bought by a load of Sky Sports generated hype, like Purslow was with Hodgson 2 years ago. That worked out well, didn't it?

 

 

17 May 2012 18:28:54
soo martinez is due for talks anytime soon !

i hope he doesnt get the job and it stays just talks because big names aint gonna join us now are they ?
he wont get respect of many players because he has come from wigan !!

i pray he doesnt get the job and im sure you all agree !


lw12

 

 

17 May 2012 18:28:27
Good evening everyone, I was wondering what people think of us speaking to Martinez, and if he does become the new lfc manger, would you be happy or disappointed and if so why (what do you ed's think aswell). Also King Kenny thanks for everything.

Thank You
Red Star's {Ed001's Note - it is not the right man for me, better than some options, but should never be near first choice. I want to know who is advising FSG right now, because this just seems to be a case of going for Sky's latest darling.}

I believe Brian Barwick, among others have the ear of FSG.

Red star i would be totally underwhelmed by martinez cant understand the logic by going for him we will have to pay compensation for him if thats the case why not go for another manager and pay compensation for some 1 who would excite the fans he,s not the worst manager in the world but surely we are liverpool and we should be looking at the best possible manager out there i hope he is just 1 of many interviewed i cant get my head round it lets see what happens
riley

 

 

17 May 2012 18:28:00
Martinez given permission to talk to liverpool....oh crap!!

 

 

17 May 2012 18:26:35
Eds could you post a list of all the eds and who they'd like as the new manager? {Ed001's Note - I doubt it.}

 

 

17 May 2012 18:24:00
I did not want kenny sacked , i think he should of been given another year , we have not played pass and move football for years ,but how can the people say the owners know what they are doing when they give King Kenny A THREE YEAR DEAL ,he was never going to leave for another club ,he should have been given a rolling year contract ,so now it means we have to pay the rest of his contact out , a article out the guardian paper quote a figure of £8.4 million , to pay off kenny and his backroom staff , and yes king kennys lovers this is a guy who loves the club my arse he will take his money like the rest of them , and run back onto the golf course.
cheers teapot

Uhm why wouldnt he take the money? haha think about what your saying. do you think he wanted to go.

 

 

17 May 2012 18:23:26
Absolutely Gutted. . . . . . .
Matinez approached, what a joke that is, he is no where near our level.
We need a world class manager.

Hes pretty much odds on to sign now that its confirmed on SSN

LTP the red

 

 

17 May 2012 18:23:17
Liverpool have been given permission to talk to Martinez, I'm not in favour of this but if he is to become manager I think everyone should back him.

In my opinion LFC moved quickly in sackind Daglish and contacting Martinez incase Martinez signed for Villa.

Dore89

 

 

17 May 2012 18:23:12
Liverpool have just been given permission to speak to Martinez! NO,NO,NO..unless it's to say you haven't got the job!

Dav001

 

 

17 May 2012 18:22:58
I did not want kenny sacked , i think he should of been given another year , we have not played pass and move football for years ,but how can the people say the owners know what they are doing when they give King Kenny A THREE YEAR DEAL ,he was never going to leave for another club ,he should have been given a rolling year contract ,so now it means we have to pay the rest of his contact out , a article out the guardian paper quote a figure of £8.4 million , to pay off kenny and his backroom staff , and yes king kennys lovers this is a guy who loves the club my arse he will take his money like the rest of them , and run back onto the golf course.
cheers teapot

So what why shouldn't he take money thats owed to him, Wouldn't you want paying if an agreement was in place from the off. Just cause he takes the money it doesn't mean he doesn't love the club. This is called a contract and owners know this is what they have to do and besides its not your money so calm down mate

 

 

17 May 2012 18:22:50
hi eds with the departure of KK i understand all our dealings would be on hold and also between the eds its common opinion that suarez will be sold if a suitable bid comes in what would the Eds class as Suitable?

Personally i would like to see us bring in some good young players for me we need a excellent AMRLC


i would like to see us bring in

Susetta 10-13m
soldado 20-22m
Ramires 15m
Mvilla/ Sissoko 17m/ 15m
Isla 10m
total 77m

outs

Suarez 35-40m
Johnson 12-15m
Spearing 1-2m
Kuyt 3-5m
maxi 1-3m
Aqua 5m

total 57m so our net spend would be around 20m or so

so our team would look something like this next year

Manager
Klopp (wishful thinking)

Reina

Isla Skrtel Agger Enrique


Gerrard Lucas Sissoko


sussetta Soldado Ramires


so how would you rate this team eds plse post {Ed022's Note - I don't rate Sissoko as I've profiled him and watched him an awful lot. He's just an ok midfielder. Ramirez I believe you're referring to and not Ramires, and this team would be pretty ideal really. But unlikely I'm afraid.}

Are you out of your mind? Sell suarez?? kiddin rite? hhhaaahaha i like it

 

 

17 May 2012 18:22:23
Most of you's complained about AC up until the last 3 games and now he is the best thing since sliced bread! then saying Roberto Martinez was only good in the Last 6matches, he aint 'Liverpool' Quality....

 

 

17 May 2012 18:22:00
everyone else is talking about there opinion
on the new management.
here are my thoughts .
avb will be the new manager , with either carragher or gerrard will act as assistant . This will appease the fans to have a continuity of the legend of the boot room avb will train the assistant in club management with the long term goal of carragher/gerrard or gerrard/carragher being the long term management team

 

 

17 May 2012 18:25:46
The new manager will be 1 that fits FSG ethos, young, determined, ambitious, confident with media and won't want a mad contract ( mourinho, guardiola ), plays a good style of attractive football! Imo it will be Martinez (won't cost much if any compensation) and AVB no compensation, and has had sucess, a but more than anything will want to prove chelsea and the rest of europe he wasn't a failure! 2 very good choices and I wouldn't mind either! We have been buying a lot of youth, so I can see a lot of young reserves giving a real chance next year, sad KK went! But I,m quite excited about the future, and especially this summer, with new manager, new transfers and even roy has got me confident with england, I can see glen johnson, stevie g, stuey downing and andt carroll have a top tournament, after the year they've had, and with kenny showing so much faith in them! KEEP THE FAITH ! Y...N...W...A jft96! Herbie!

 

 

17 May 2012 18:25:38
Breaking news on Sky .....Wigan have given Liverpool permission to talk to Roberto Martinez!
In a telephone interview Dave Whelan said he couldn't believe the lack of heart and passion at the Club (LFC) when they played at Anfield...particularily in the Boardroom!
ANFIELDPETE

 

 

17 May 2012 18:25:31
if i could chose the manager of liverpool it will be martin o'niell all day long

 

 

17 May 2012 18:25:26
Martinez approach does this mean fsg want him to work on shoestring budget and perform
Miracles s**t were r in for more heart ache

 

 

17 May 2012 18:25:06
Liverpool have asked to speak with Martinez, I taught the idea of letting Kenny go was to bring in a proven manager?

 

 

17 May 2012 18:25:00
I wonder who advises FSG, Fergie? Whoever it is they dont seem to like us a lot

I'm forcing myself to laugh at this to stop myself crying.

 

 

17 May 2012 18:24:37
Martinez it is can't believe this decision he will have no drawing power for players and has never expierienced managing a big club before and we are not only a big club but are a club in need complete revamp. It would appear the owners have come to this conclusion by themselves as we have no DOF. All I can say is God help him if the first few games don't go well. But atleast until then let's try and give the guy some support. {Ed002's Note - They will be getting some advice.}

 

 

17 May 2012 18:24:33
Eds/Macca, its been a while since our DoF got fired and a reason to fire him so early must have been so that a replacement could be found as soon as possible, so have we made any progress, I think a Dof would be named before a manager is found {Ed002's Note - No idea, sorry.}

 

 

17 May 2012 18:20:53
So we are in talks with Roberto Martinez.

Don't know if this is the right choice personally.

Rob

I for one am happy plays good passing fball and hopefully he will bring moses with him {Ed001's Note - please don't say that! If Moses is the kind of players he brings in, then we may as well accept mid-table mediocrity now. Has anyone noticed that he took over a Wigan that finished 11th in the league and has gradually dragged them into a relegation dogfight?}

Its a complete joke! Pi**ed right off....

77to2005

 

 

17 May 2012 18:20:48
Liverpool approached Roberto Martinez according to SSN, whats the likelihood of him signing ?
JW91 {Ed002's Note - A lot more likely than Klopp.}

 

 

17 May 2012 18:20:35
Dave Whelan confirms to SSN he received a phonecall from #LFC around 40 minutes ago asking for permission to speak to Roberto Martinez

 

 

17 May 2012 18:20:11
Can some 1 tell me that the times is telling lies please. About they have givin us permission t speak t Martinez

Redman j4t96 ynwa

Sorry mate it's true

 

 

17 May 2012 18:19:40
Michael Laudrup. Fact.

 

 

17 May 2012 18:19:12
Roberto Martinez is being backed off the boards. Into odds on on the betting exchanges! Not sure if i'm chuffed about this!

Clayali

 

 

17 May 2012 18:19:01
FSG want Martinez! Thats me finished get rid of Kenny but only for a top manager.

We have owners with no clue and shallow pockets.

This club has made bad decisions for 20yrs and there seems no end.

IRISH PHIL

Stop worrying they are going to approch a no of candidates,looks like they are going to be tough with there interview process!it took guts to sack kk,at least they are showing they have a back bone!!!!

 

 

17 May 2012 18:18:09
Rogers and Martinez have been given permission to speak to us and will be interview next week,

What a load of s**t turning in to a mid table team with mid table managers awful decision by the owners.

 

 

17 May 2012 18:17:26
Terrible if Martinez gets the job, it's hodgson all over one good season with fulham gets the job Martinez finishes 15th could get the job. Even though Wigan did finish just 9 points behind us in the league losing 3 more and winning 3 less than Liverpool considering the money he had to spend.

 

 

17 May 2012 18:16:56
Wigan manager has been given permission to talk to Liverpool. Not the big name we need

 

 

17 May 2012 18:15:44
Eds,

I have reasons to belive that Mourinho will be incharge soon. FSG will be able to convince him.

First team eleven 2012-2013;

Reina
Johnson Skrtel Agger Enrique
Lucas Lassana Diarra
Hulk
{Ed002's Note - Entering an 8 a side league?}

I think that's all the players we could afford after we bought Hulk and pay for Mourinho...

Hilarious!

 

 

17 May 2012 18:15:24
Dave Whelan has confirmed to The Times that LFC have asked for permission to speak to Roberto Martinez. "It is true," Whelan said.

 

 

17 May 2012 18:12:32
You have to laugh if FSG do go for Deschamps.

Kenny this season wins 1 trophy, finishes 8th outside the champions league places. Sacked.

Deschamps this season 1 trophy, finishes 9/10th outside the champions league places. Hired.

Jatt YNWA

 

 

17 May 2012 18:12:31
Talks**te just broke news that Liverpool given permission by Wigan to speak with Martinez.

Sad times if that's our level.

Jonesred

Utter krap by fsg . this could blow up on them

I can appreciate you thinking that has he as very little experience and none with a massive club, however I think. If we had the right DOF in place I think.

Another press promoted flavour of the month manager just what we don't need. Surely FSG aren't completely stupid and can see that we need a proven manager with a track record of success domestically and in Europe. Martinez's CV is hardly impressive.

 

 

17 May 2012 18:12:30
Whelan: "I don't know the exact timescales of when he is due to meet with the Liverpool owners but I will never stand in Roberto's way.

 

 

17 May 2012 18:12:27
Gutted for Kenny a disgraceful decision by owners. However life goes on Liverpool are currently talking to Martinez

 

 

17 May 2012 18:12:25
Hi ed's just wanted every one to know that on sky sports news, they have said breaking news 'wigan give liverpool permission to speak to reberto martinez'
Thank You
Red Star's

 

 

17 May 2012 18:11:47
Wigan give permission Liverpool to speak to Roberto Martinez, I for one would be disappointed if he was to be appointed, as it is too big a job for the man.

RedSG {Ed002's Note - Martinez Out then?}

Oh no Ed02! Dont be silly! He will get 1season. Thats the going rate. Isnt it?

Thd Irish Rover

I too would be disappointed but who ever gets the job we all have to back him or we have no chance!

Oliverpool

No Ed002, Martinez to not get the job, not Martinez out

However if he was to be appointed, I wouldn't be happy but I would still support him 100%

To sack Kenny to replace him with Martinez is not the way to go IMO. I personally would go with a manager who has won things, not one who has escaped relegation with 1/2 games to go over the past 2 seasons...

There's a huge difference between managing Liverpool and Wigan!

Deschamps, De Boer, Klopp or AVB at a push... Van Gaal or Capello proven winners

I worry for the rest of FSG's big plans if Martinez is a sign of things to come....

RedSG {Ed001's Note - also Wigan were 11th the season before Martinez took over, now they are fighting relegation every year under him. What has he done to deserve a shot?}

Exactly Ed001, he has not done a lot! Yes he has brought a good brand of football to the clubs he has been at, but so did Kenny when he was here. I would rather we have kept Kenny than appoint one of the new breed of Martinez, Rodgers or Lambert.

Of those 3 Martinez has the weaker pedigree, Lambert with 2 consecutive promotions and a solid 1st season is an outstanding achievement and I think he will be a top manager, much better than the other 2

The owners want a manager who will deliver results, and at this stage in their careers, I think the managers stated need to progress their clubs even further before they should be realistically considered.

RedSG

 

 

17 May 2012 18:11:43
Dream team for me would be Bilbao Manager and tixxi from barca and David Dein

alan50

 

 

17 May 2012 18:10:08
liverpool just been given permission to speak to martinez - ssn

 

 

17 May 2012 18:10:06
"Borussia Dortmund have extended the contract of their coach Jurgen Klopp until 2016."
Have to be a big pay out like with AVB

 

 

17 May 2012 18:09:06
Just heard that Liverpool have been given permission to speak with Martinez. Dave Whelan has confirmed this with a reporter from the Times.

Tel 1949

 

 

17 May 2012 18:09:00
roberto martinez has been given permission to speak to liverpool

 

 

17 May 2012 18:08:51
With all that's gone on I forgot to say congrats Stevie G on being made England captain.

Better late than never.

 

 

17 May 2012 18:08:37
Dave whelan gives lfc permission to speak to Martinez oh no

 

 

17 May 2012 17:59:08
Tony Evans reporting on twitter that Liverpool have been giving permission to speak to Martinez, according to Whelan via James Ducker

 

 

17 May 2012 18:07:31
klinnsman will be interviewed about prospect of taking the job with carra as his number 2.
id rather see del bousgue or hiddink myself tho

 

 

17 May 2012 18:06:06
Ed002,

...Two opposing players, normally locked in the higher pursuit of the beautiful game, suddenly become bitter rivals who are willing to take a dive...?

ProfG

p.s. teach me to argue with a Sorbonne educated editor....

 

 

17 May 2012 18:05:57
not to long ago we were laughing our heads of at villas boas distroying chelsea dragging them out of top 4 an now he is fav to take over our club. has some of our fans gone mad we were already a laughing stock this season 8 if he gets the job he will drag us into bottom 3 .

 

 

17 May 2012 18:05:44
Wigan have given LFC permission to speak with Martinez. -100% fact.

Will have my backing if so but defo not my choice, or even top five!!

Bridgy07

 

 

17 May 2012 18:04:25
It could be Fran De Boer. I'm surprised no one's mentiopned him here. I'll be happy if we get anyone of Frank De Boer, Klopp or Klinsman.
Furqan.

 

 

Goodbye Kenny Dalglish, you will be missed, and you're still a legend!

http://youtu.be/6fsUqdhL_pU

YoungRed

 

 

17 May 2012 18:04:05
In Kenny's last interview as manager he said "sometimes you don't get what you deserve".

In his case now it's the other way round, sometimes you get what you don't deserve.

 

 

17 May 2012 18:02:50
change of manger is one the most costly things , the payments of manager, his staff everyone associated with him leaves making a big hole in clubs pocket.
everything changes, money for new boss, his men, he wants his players all of it costs a lot. in last 3 yrs we had 3 diff managers, staff, players good bad coming going just calculate how much money it would be? that money which could have better used in stadium or transfer n all.


that is why NO EXPERIMENT or STOP-GAP manager. Get us a proper manager.
now i don't mean bring in pep or jose (would love to). but an experianced, attacking minded, successful manager . with a good European pedigree. one who knows how to grind out results week in week out.

mayurr.

 

 

17 May 2012 17:59:42
What If Arsene Wenger got the job. I mean this is Liverpool Football Club and are much better than Arsenal. He also has a great record (bar the last 7 years in which Arsenal had to come to terms with the new stadium etc), and one of the best in the world when it comes to transfer market and saving money.

With the issues around the stadium, we do need a good accountant.

Jatt YNWA

Ha ha bonk that's the sound of a nation of Liverpool fans laughing their heads off - funniest post of the week.

 

 

17 May 2012 17:57:51
It looks as though Roberto Martinez and Brendan Rodgers will be interviewed by #LFC next week.

 

 

17 May 2012 17:16:56
just heard that the plans before Kenny was sacked was to sell Suarez and with the money received, put in an offer for Falcao(who will consider it if the right price came in) which would encourage AVB to work with a former Porto team mate. Ed what is the situation regarding David Dein? is he a part of the set up already or an option for Liverpool?

If I understand correctly ( from an AM fan), Porto do not own Falcao. He is one of those owned by an agent ala Tevez as is so often the case with South Americans. Could be very messy but a great player if we could get him.

Iggypop {Ed002's Note - Porto is owned by Atletico Madrid.}

Porto owned by athletico madrid?

Rudi

 

 

17 May 2012 17:04:18
Hi Ed,

Its obvious that transfers in are on pause until the new manager is appointed. However if a £35m+ offer came in for Suarez would the owners still sell even without a manager? I mean, with Suarez we look attractive, without him the new man will have the task of replacing him aswell as the top 4 finish. What are your thoughts?

Thanks

Kam

 

 

17 May 2012 17:51:29
Klopp 16/1 think it's worth a tenner?

J.P

 

 

17 May 2012 17:51:23
Please don't bring back Rafa.

Martinez or AVB all the way for me.

But whoever it is I will back just the same way I backed Kenny and Roy.

Having so many people on here constantly gripe about this person or that person is going to help nobody.

As Kenny said himself, we need to get behind the owners and whoever is the new manager.

They're all here to try to better our club.

Tristan

 

 

17 May 2012 17:49:02
i cant believe steve clark has not stepped down, he was out of the game when kenny brought him to liverpool, the man never smiles, if he was any good why didnt mourinho take him to italy or spain with him? i hate the thought of him being at liverpool and kenny isnt, i did see the pic of him and the owners at a red sox game sunday night, when kenny was on his way home why wasnt he with dalglish? they are both to blame for the way we played last season not just kenny, bob paisleys skids

Clark should take as much of the blame as KK. Otherwise waht was he doing unless KK overuled him all the time? His input was tactical was it not and that is where we fell down alot this season. He should do the honourable thing and go as well.

Iggypop

 

 

17 May 2012 17:48:24
Owen been released by united. Just have to say ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Cheers
FowlerisGod

He's achieved far more wealth and success than you though. you can only dream of being in his position, released by man utd {Ed001's Note - no no no, it would be a nightmare to have sunk so far as to sign for them for any Liverpool fan mate.}

Wat a silly reply

 

 

17 May 2012 17:46:55
I missed at least 3 candidates in my list.

Michael Laudrup : Available, good choice.

Pelligrini : Not sure if he is available, not sure about him either.

Fabio Capello: A proven winner. He's 64 though and probably off to Chelsea.

A lot will depend on how keen the candidate is to be manager and how he sets out his plans for the future.

Future is the word, no looking back this time, sorry Rafa, even though I think you are a safe pair of hands.

Things will be clearer after the various candidates have been interviewed and how they perform.

I hope FSG don't rush things. Getting the right person is more important than bowing to the impatient media.

This time it will be totally FSG's man. They tried to appease the fans by offering Dalglish an ambassadorial job. He wasn't interested.

 

 

17 May 2012 17:35:04
Why does football drive some Liverpool Managers a bit insane

Rafa's fights with the owners and AF

Kenny's fights with the press

In the corporate world none of these fights can be won so why bother?

 

 

17 May 2012 17:57:15
Why is no one talking about del piero, bags of experience, can score goals and he's Free. Perfect really.

Trev

It might be because he is 104

Puzzled

 

 

17 May 2012 17:56:58
Ian McGarry @garbosj
So, no shock that Brendan Rodgers is one of the managers #LFC have invited for interview for head coach job. #Swans

If Rodgers is going to be coaching the heads who'll be coaching the feet?

 

 

17 May 2012 17:55:11
why the hell is we getting linked with martinez or o-niell? hasn't the lesson learned ? with HODGSON?

there are so many reports going gaga abt martinez and how he saves them (wigan) each time,lol i mean what the F. he is the same manager who fails whole season to keep them out of danger? o-neill is not too far away.

see have nothing against them but only thing they succeed is bringing the club down to their mediocre standards. people go gaga abt their few wins saying they have no money no players n still they manage a bit of success , rightly so but a big hot seat is totally diferent ball game..
kenny is another example, i mean im not saying he is that bad or small club n al but , for sure he couldn't get it right, the money was there support backing was there only thing wasn't there was a PLAN. no disrespect to kenny, had there been a a big manager with a good success n European pedigree , 1st thing he would have had is , a plan to success . kenny tried hard with all his mind n heart but the right words would be he couldn't get it right.

that's why we must get it right this time.

mayurr.

 

 

17 May 2012 17:55:08
Right decision to sack Kenny, Anyone else would of been sacked in January with his string of results, Maybe now Carragher should retire and give Coates his chance, Carra has cost us so many points, goals and games the last 2 seasons.

Rafa or Martinez for me

We was doing all right up until january still in for a shout at champions league so unlikely he was going to be sacked then

 

 

17 May 2012 17:52:46
my best would be klopp or benitez

 

 

17 May 2012 17:52:37
The only manager who fits the perfect criteria and who has the potential to get Liverpool anywhere is martin o'neil. We should do everything and anything to get him from sunderland. Is this a possibility? like chelsea payed for AVB contract to get him to chelsea can this happen in the same way for liverpool? {Ed019's Note - No not Martin O'neil!}

 

 

17 May 2012 17:52:35
Macca,

I have taken some of you advice and
Ive placed £20 on Klopp next manager at 16-1
Ive also placed £5 on deshamps at 8-1

Hope Klopp makes the switch, not only for the cash but also as he is class. What do you think EDs, id love to hear you oppinions.

P.S when do you think the announcement will be made.

Ltp The Red {Ed019's Note - I like the thought of AVB, Bielsa, Deschamps or Klopp being our manager, I really hope we go for one of them}

 

 

17 May 2012 17:42:51
A popular Sports website in England have run a poll about who should take over as Liverpool manager?

Here are the results so far :

Jurgen Klinsmann 5%

Rafa Benitez 27%

Roberto Martinez 12%

Pep Guardiola 24%

Andre Villas-Boas 15%

Brendan Rodgers 5%

Marcelo Bielsa 3%

Other 8%

Just thought it would give some people a general feel for what the fans think.

If Jurgen Klopp was on that list, then i'd have voted for him, but he wasn't so i voted for Rafa Benitez. Don't judge me :)

Ollieston

Liverpool have been given permission to talk to Roberto Martinez at Wigan. Dave Whelan has confirmed it to a reporter from the Times. I give up !

Dalglish to be replaced by a loser ?? What is going on FSG ??

Tel 1949

 

 

17 May 2012 17:42:39
FSG's Priorities -
1. Proven League (not just here) winning record
2. Proven European record
3. Style of football
4. Youngish
5. Motivator
John Henry likes to make decisions based on data. The best options are Mourinho (expensive), Capello (old), Guardiola (unlikely), Deschamps (lightweight?).
If they go for future potential: Brendan Rodgers or Paul Lambert would be very very sound long term characters.
Ian Holloway would at least give us a few thrills & a lot of laughs after we lose.
PS Good luck Ian in the play-offs.

Red Sox are currently bottom of their league.

They sacked their last manager.

Deschamps lightweight? I didn't know the Liverpool job was a drinking contest.

 

 

17 May 2012 17:32:33
Ed, who is this Girard u speak of? Gerrard's french cousin?haha. Is he any kop? Cheers Clarkchenko7 {Ed002's Note - Maybe I meant Gerrard?}

 

 

17 May 2012 17:26:57
Jamie Carragher has been mentioned a lot today and he has been giving his thoughts on the departure of Kenny Dalglish as Liverpool boss: "I spoke to him just before he was getting on his flight and asked: 'is it Kenny now or gaffer?'. He said 'it is Kenny now' I am sorry to see him go, but that is football. It is a sad day for him, but we respect the owners decision and we have to look forward now. I will be fully committed to whoever the manager is." On the BBC web page looks like knew before he left makes me feel a little better... they must have someone lined up..

 

 

17 May 2012 17:26:25
eds do you think they will get a dof before a manager? also do you think the reason they havnt got one yet because the manager they want doesnt want one?

cheers {Ed022's Note - It entirely depends.}

 

 

17 May 2012 17:25:54
Ed 002. Surely Rene Girard, the 89 year old French Philosopher, would be out of touch with the modern game? His doctrine of "Mimetic Rivalry" is surely akin to "diving" in the penalty area?

ProfG. {Ed022's Note - As would the French Philosopher of Rene Descartes, who claimed there is a duality of the human mind with regards to the soul, and the physical body. Descartes claims that the only way to truly break through to the soul is to inflict punishment upon the physical body. Nevertheless, I fail to see the link between a French Philosopher and a diving player - it's a completely irrelevant comparison really.}

Have I clicked onto a new philosopher page Ed.?

dmedly

And hasn't Descartes just spoken with the press and said 'Cogito ergo sum -the new Liverpool Manager' ?

Puzzled {Ed022's Note -Very very well put mate. Very well put. 'I think therefore I am the new Liverpool manager.}

 

 

17 May 2012 17:25:32
hey eds

how would you like to be manager and who is look likley to be manager ?

thanks {Ed022's Note - Everyone knows my personal opinion, and my first choice is AVB. I know other Eds disagree but I just think he'd be excellent. However, I would be open to Klopp (who wouldn't be?) as well as Luis Enrique. However, whoever comes in I'll support them regardless. Part of me screams 'Please not Martinez' but I think he'd be excellent at a 'bigger' club than Wigan (no disrespect) - why not Liverpool? I love all this uncertainty to be honest, so many possibilities.}

 

 

17 May 2012 17:22:24
Diego Simeone Atletco Madrid. Unai Emre Ex Valencia. if we don't have big budget for a manager then try them FSG.

R-R

 

 

17 May 2012 17:22:05
on bbc sport carragher said that dalglish told him he wasnt the manager anymore before he took the flight to boston. so macca is wrong

I think he meant Kenny's flight to spain on a family holiday !!

I took it that he spoke to him before he boarded the plane back to England...it's not clear.
KJS

On his way home mate..

{Ed022's Note - This post is from Macca, and he is saying that Carragher was told by Kenny on the way back from Boston, not on the way to Boston. Thanks.}

 

 

17 May 2012 17:19:02
Well, having surveyed the still smoking wreckage of our club, it appears to me that Anfield is now ground zero.

If Gerrard and Carragher left today, who is there at the club who actually loves and has loyalty to Liverpool FC.

Everyone says that no-one is bigger than the club but what is the club now. We are run by Americans and have NO actual management in place.

I know it all sounds melodramatic and you'll be telling me to get a grip but what and who are we supporting here now? We've literally had the soul ripped out of us.

What must the players (especially the better ones) be thinking about it all? Would you want to stay now?

In the aftermath of defeats and bad news I'm usually an optimist and firmly wear my rose tinted specs but right now I can no longer see a golden sky let alone hear a sweet silver song of a lark.

I really hope I'm just being a drama queen here but I can't help feeling that we are witnessing an important chapter of 'An Epic Swindle 2'.

I'm a fanatical Liverpool fan of over 25 years and right now I'm dismayed, disheartened, disgusted and falling out of love with football in general.

Simsimo

Keep calm and carry on
the liverbird will once again rise from the embers of dispair...

ynwa
phooey

 

 

17 May 2012 17:17:30
Just following up on my earlier post - some quotes from Deschamps last year revealing his decision to stay at Marseille when Kenny approached him. Clearly he's been a long-term target.

"I was immensely flattered to receive Liverpool's offer but there are two principal reasons that made me stay at Marseille.

"I thought about it for more than two seconds, I won't lie to you. Believe me. It's not every day Liverpool come knocking on your door.

"It was not an easy decision, I tell you, not easy. But I had given my word here.

"I had a year left on my contract and committed myself to staying, giving my promise to the president, the fans and the players.

"There were players who came here for me. Then Liverpool's offer came two days before we started pre-season at the end of June.

"As I am a man of my word, I couldn't do it.

"At the same time we also had the controversy of the French team at the World Cup in South Africa and I couldn't see myself adding to that by dropping Marseille in it two days before pre-season and saying 'That's it, I'm going to Liverpool'."

Deschamps, the legendary skipper of France's 1998 World Cup winners, is one of the most decorated players in history — and one of the most coveted bosses in Europe.

He took unfancied Monaco to the Champions League final where they lost to Jose Mourinho's Porto.

Then he guided Juve back to Serie A in the most critical season of their history after they were relegated in 2006 because of their involvement in a match-fixing scandal.

At Marseille last year he won the French title in his first season — ending a 17-year hoodoo for France's biggest club.

Deschamps insisted the fact Liverpool were not in the Champions League did not influence his decision to turn down Dalglish.

But he hinted the boardroom unrest at Anfield made him doubt whether he would have the conditions there to be successful under previous Yank owners George Gillett and Tom Hicks.

Deschamps added: "The Champions League was not decisive. The most important thing for me is the sporting project, the conditions in which I will be able to work.

"Today, Liverpool's sporting project is not the same as last summer. There was also the sale of the club going on at the time."

**

Other factors strengthening my belief he's the front-runner are:

Alan Myers/Vinny at SSN clearly given a steer about the age of the target - around 45 they claimed (I know Ayre has since distanced himself from precise age but interesting I thought).

Also Phil Thompson uttered Deschamps name today and given he's tight with Kenny I suspect Kenny himself knows they're going back to DD.

David Dein has also operated well with a Frenchman and it's a league with a high rate of success for players who switch to England.

In fact we could have a trio of DD's - David Dein, Didier Deschamps and DoF Dan (Ashworth) !!

PieInTheSkyMan

Probably a definite possability!

 

 

17 May 2012 17:20:10
My wish list would be:
Rijkaard, klopp, villas boas in that order

I would hate it to be:
Martinez, oneil, Rodgers, Benitez or cappello

Klopp or biesla for me but i agree 100% with who you don't want

 

 

17 May 2012 17:16:14
hi ed, first time poster ,long time fan. just wondering if new manager would have to be fluent english speaker? kenny had some real battles with the press this season and the whole suarez episode was a p.r. disaster. surely a good communicater needed here. any thoughts? {Ed002's Note - I am sure that an English speaker will be appointed.}

 

 

17 May 2012 17:13:33
So Klopp is a shout for the managers job. Can see the headlines now, Kenny gets the chop for Klopp to run the Kop!

Love it! lol

 

 

17 May 2012 17:12:37
Some of the young managers linked with the job like AVB , Martinez are a huge risk to take. If we have a poor start next season or a wobble in the middle of the season they would find themselves under immense pressure not too dissimilar to what AVB found to his cost this season. We need an established and experienced manager with a big track record of building sides and delivering success. Someone who the player respect and will stick with and the crowd too if and when we have a wobble. The right candidate will need to command immediate respect from all the player, be hugely experienced, have a track record of developing young players to their full potential and be committed to the best traditions of attacking flowing football. There is one man who has all these attributes by the bucket load. He has worked in Spain, Holland and more recently Germany (where he will know how to pick up a bargain or two from). He is available too. Louis Van Gaal has got to be a serious option. Press conferences would be great too as he is known for his bluntness with the media when they ask half baked questions. Ed surely he has got to be under consideration?. Reality Red

 

 

17 May 2012 17:11:10
nobody has a clue who its gonna be do they?

 

 

17 May 2012 17:10:44
I heard alan pardew is on the shortlist is this true edds

 

 

17 May 2012 17:09:35
Ed, is any rumours about Owen's return? {Ed002's Note - As manager?}

He'll probably go to Everton.

 

 

17 May 2012 17:05:24
I totally understand all the opposition to Martinez and Roger's, but just feel if one of these guys got the job it wouldn't be the worst thing ever. If we could get a really (and I mean really) world class DOF e.g Cruyff, Tixi Begiristain then this would work really well. Martinez / Roger's could learn from these guys and master their style of football. We would then be playing attractive and hopefully winning football with this formula.

Just a thought

Ernest Redding

 

 

17 May 2012 17:05:24
Dave whelan said martinez could leave if a big club came offering! with liverpool sacking dalglish wigan fans needn't worry!!
dalglish! worst pool manager since barrymore!!

 

 

17 May 2012 17:04:56
don't see why so many people hate O'Neill he got Villa playing good football and has totally changed Sunderland's playing,

 

 

17 May 2012 17:04:31
With people saying Martinez and Brendan Rodgers being either to young or inexperienced that rules out avb as well he's only 34 and if you look at his record in depth 1year at Porto and 9 months at Chelsea not exactly experienced either and it showed at chelsea looked out of his depth with macca mentioning Didier Deschamps or klopp both who are young but with more experience I think it will one of those. RED KENNY

 

 

17 May 2012 17:04:06
There is supposedly a shortlist of 3 managers..... Clopp,De Boer and one other (don't know who) Clopp and De Boer both fullfil FSG credentials,both young,proven successfull managers (both won their respective leagues 2yrs running) promote from youth and develope players,dont need massive cash amounts and play attractive attacking football,me personally i'd go for De Boer with his Barca connections (former player) he got the same football approach as the former barca coaches and youth coaches we already have here,maybe he already knows them and if the former barca DOF comes in to replace commoli i think we could have the complete set up to build an empire,if not the foundations,what do you reckon Ed(s) JB {Ed002's Note - Out of the three you mention "the other one" is the most likely.}

The other one is Mr Frank Rijkard. He will be the new gaffer for sure.

 

 

17 May 2012 17:03:32
Id consider giving the DOF role to Jose Segura. Very intelligent man, knows Liverpool inside out and has many contacts all over Europe.

 

 

17 May 2012 17:02:49
Hi does any of the eds know why kenny actually decided to leave/got sacked because everyone was saying he went over there to discuss the season? Something must of happened for him to suddenly get sacked?!

 

 

17 May 2012 17:01:02
they sacked my hero, they sacked the legend.what a shame .

my heart is bleeding, my eyes are full of tears.can't believe i have to see liverpool dugout without dalglish,can't imagine there will be no smile of that lovely old man.

i will miss your lovely smile after liverpool scores, i am so gutted . i hate those american owners.

you guys can sack kenny but you never will able to remove his name from my heart.

collins

There's respect for a top manager and then there is you,a complete freak who needs to get over a manager being sacked,he hasn't died you moron!

Fair play mate. Hope things get better.

 

 

17 May 2012 17:00:23
@Sky Sports News: Michael Owen says he won't retire after being released by Man Utd.

He's still undecided on which club he'll be injured for next season

Chris in Tamworth

He's not worth wasting your time on Chris.

MidlandRed

Saw him say he's only 32-years-old, and that he has a lot of top flight football left in him. My 70-year-old Nana can sit on a top flight training table too, Michael.

-Red Socks

 

 

17 May 2012 16:45:14
i know this is a long shot but the person who i would like to see as manager is johan cruyff

 

 

17 May 2012 16:42:08
Klopp--Benitez--deshamps--avb. They are probably the most realistic in that orders aswell. Klopp has to be the front runner with what he has done on a relitavely small budget is what our owners are looking for promoting youth from within and balancing the books however Benitez record with Liverpool speaks for itself and he must be in with a shout and he is well respected around Europe and he may be able to persuade some of European better players to come. Deshamps has had a poor season at marseille but has previously excelled an should definitely be considered an finally avb although had a very poor run as Chelsea manager he was immense at Porto an if you wind the clock back to b4 he took the Chelsea job he was very highly regarded as one of the best up an coming coaches in Europe so that can't be ignored he might well go to his next job an be outstanding not every job is right for each individual an avb. Could be brilliant at Liverpool I can't see for the life off me Martinez or Rodgers getting the job as neither has the relative experience this time last year Owen coyle was being touted for a big job now look we're he is Rodgers may well turn out to be a excellent coach but we need more experience not the flavour of the month. . Kevooooo

 

 

17 May 2012 16:40:35
Book makers don't know who will be next manager, AVB is only favourite because punters are putting their money on him, my cousin is head of fraud at a well known book makers and he said they have NO clue as to who the next manager will be

 

 

17 May 2012 16:39:00
Hello Ed001, I don't if its been asked but what was your first reaction when you heard the news? I seem to remember you once saying that you didn't want Kenny to be appointed because of fairweather fans, or was it some other ed?

I hope FSG sort this mess out soon because we can't afford to to deals over a prolonged period like we have done in the last two windows.

Also I'm dreading that Ed002's belief about Suarez leaving might come true.


VM YNWA {Ed001's Note - it was me who argued against appointing Dalglish because of the treatment I knew he would get after every defeat. I am extremely disappointed with his treatment, he has done more for our club than anyone. There is no way anyone could have turned us into a top 4 club last season, I think he deserved more time. I just hope those abusive tools, that constantly bombarded the site with their sickeningly disrespectful comments about Dalglish, aren't going to live to regret his removal.}

I still can honestly not believe why any Liverpool supporters did that.
All for fourth place !
I do fear for Liverpool now. FSG seem intent on following the Barca model. I know it's not a bad example to look at. But I can remember when everyone else looked at the Liverpool model. There never was any secret, except for loyal, talented, hard working and humble people.
I don't know. If FSG get this wrong, I don't think I'll have the heart to go again.
The Real KB

Well said Edd001

Phooey

You have to admit the defeats stack up ridiculously. I've never made disrespectful comments about Dalglish but the man was pretty much out of sync. He made terrible transfers, he had no press appeal and you have to remember we get our information from the press conferences, so he shout us out all the same.

I don't hold the Suarez thing over his head as manager he believed his player and supported his player through his worst times. and it was clear it wasn't just Dalglish who trusted Suarez it was all of his team mates as well who've gotten to know what he's like. He's countrymen (all races).

Haych

Well said Ed. Maybe we should just give all managers a one year contract & save on the compensation when they fail.

The Irish Rover

 

 

17 May 2012 16:35:42
cant understand people being shocked about kennys sacking.he was rightly sacked i didnt see people askin for hodgson to get more time n he didnt have money to spend.no man is bigger than the club or have people forgotton that.fsg made the rite decision.i wud love hiddink but realistically think its guna be avb or rafa

the hawk

 

 

17 May 2012 16:33:17
people calling for Rafa to come back, please try and remember how boring the football was under Benitez, playing 4 5 1 against some awful teams at Anfield, it was nearly as bad as Houlliers football!
we should be looking for the future of the club a new exciting brand of winning football with a boss who has the guts to be brave and make sure the players know who is the boss.
cobra

Was it heck im desperate for rafa to come back we got good results he did well in the transfer market When funds were given he is tactically one of the best managers in the world speaks english and loves liverpool Rafa YNWA

Yeah sure, champions league Tuesday and Wednesday nights were soooo boring.

The though of being one of Europe's most elite is dire.

Ohh the Horror...

coolbreeze

 

 

17 May 2012 17:00:16
For banter page...

My friend's dad was on a Ryanair flight to Spain yesterday afternoon, and we were waiting for him to get off the flight so that we could tell him the sad news that Kenny was gone, as it was announced while he was in the air.

Apparently though, Kenny (and several ex LFC players, as yet unnamed) were on the flight, and Kenny told all the fans on the plane that the announcement was being made while they were in the air. So they knew before anyone!

Apparently he was gutted, but still in good form, and as usual an absolute gent.

Brian
YNWA

 

 

17 May 2012 16:58:15
It has to be Rafa for me. He developed a great team in the 2008/2009 season. He is familiar with modern style football (an attribute that Dalglish didn't contain) and with a substantial amount of money, he can get us back back in the Top 4.

Thanks. Bobby

Substantial really is the word there.

Bang on Bobby Rafa ftw

 

 

17 May 2012 16:55:58
Macca, Eds,

How long do you guys think it will be before the owners find a manager and annouce it on the official website?

Regards,

Ashish (fan from India) {Ed002's Note - We have no idea.}

 

 

17 May 2012 16:55:58
is there any chance of us appointing Fabio Capello? I think he's the best suitable man for the Liverpool hot seat. I would prefer him ahead of Rafa or AVB. He's also not employed.

 

 

17 May 2012 16:55:29
I haven't really got a source, but I do know a lot of Liverpool fans, and at least 80% of them want Rafa back, and he seems to be the most popular on all the online polls. The haters have to face facts. He is possibly the best manager we had since Shankly in terms of rebuilding the team. Every other manager in our history who was succesful, inherited great teams from their predecessors. Before Rafa every manager for almost 2 decades failed to win us a majot trophy (CL or EPL).. Rafa won Istanbul, tooks us to Athens and stormed to 2nd in the league before he was royaly screwed by H&G. He actually deserves a second chance. Dalglish was unfortunately stcuk 20years in the past. Things change, and Rafa is one of the freatest tacticians in the modern era. Name our best XI and how many of his signings still make it in despite £150m of investment since he left?
Reina, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Enrique, Kuyt, Lucas, Gerrard, Bellamy, Carroll, Suarez.
6/11..
You could even count Bellamy and Gerrard to some extent as Bellamy was actually signed by Rafa once, and Rafa helped develop Gerrard into the best centre mid in the world.
The king is gone. Now its time to bring back the Prince.
Rafa, you sir, will never walk alone.

YNWA! (Adam)

 

 

17 May 2012 16:51:21
It amazes me reading some of the posts that everyone backed Kenny so much, i really cant get my head around it. Living in a dream land. He was shocking tactically and with the media he was dreadful (dont get me wrong the media arn't nice but a grown man should know how to handle himself with a bit more decorum). Look at how everyone got on Roy Hodgson's case, yet everyone backs kenny. Makes no sense, yes he was a legend as a player, but as a manager he is clueless. Just look at how much money was spent and then the final league position, shocking. The only thing i didnt understand is how he kept the job for so long, (was it winning the carling cup that did it, because if it is, thats bad as well, beat cardiff on pens, not exactly a bit achievement). Never had a clue who his first 11 was the entire time he was here. Good Riddance.

Did you watch any games?

We were actually playing good footy and again and it was only gonna get better.

Who do you want now that you wont be calling for his head after the 1st defeat?

Fickle as f**k

 

 

17 May 2012 16:48:46
you might agree eds but when I have a look on other team forums the fans seem to be of the same thinking all about managers and players... not on here everyday I read different options and thoughts on players, managers and owners...what dizzy confussed state we are in as fans... In the last 2 years two managers in, nearly went bust, new owners in, record breaking transfers, scandals, good in cups, bad in the prem. Its took its tole on us we are all divided as a group, we dont know what happening next...Ive changed my thinking on a day by day basis.....Help us...

 

 

17 May 2012 16:21:17
Can't see past L Van Gaal myself. Won shed loads, plays football right way, attack minded, no brainer to me. I'm not FSG though!

YNWA Evo

 

 

17 May 2012 16:15:26
not crying out for AVB, but his league record at Chelsea was better than Di Matteo's last season. More points per game, more goals per game and less goals conceded per game.

 

 

17 May 2012 16:13:54
It's so unfair. I feel like FSG don't care. Why don't they get Rafa? There's no reason not to get him.

Considering that he has already had his turn and played boring football.. yep can't see any reason why not.

KT!

Because he isn't the man for the job maybe?

Chris in Tamworth

Stop Looking Back, Is the kenny situation not proof we need to look forward?

Maybe cos he was a defensive, stubborn manager who wanted everything his own way. Especially towards the latter stages of his time as boss.

We need a fresh start.

Tom in wolves

Rafa is a fan favourite is a tatical genius bring him back

 

 

17 May 2012 16:12:22
Eds..
Manager - Klopp
DoF

 

 

17 May 2012 16:07:08
Pivotal moment was when Lucas got injured , we didn't have a holding CM to marshal the defence, that was the main reason we lost so many goals and games , I think Kenny realized that when he played Carra there at one stage of the season . As for Kenny going ,shows how much fsg know about football, as fans we all know that the league position would have been much better next season but now we seem to be in disarray. You don't get rid of a manager without one in mind to step in, let's hope this is the case!

 

 

17 May 2012 16:06:48
Alright Ed/s, hope you're all very well today!

2 quick questions pleaseee,
What time scale do you think they're likely to appoint a new Manager? With Liverpool aspiring to actually be Premier League champions again (I know it's a long aim, but I suppose it actually is our objective over a few years) then surely our Manager will need to be in the club asap, getting to know what squad/players he likes and then deciding what transfers to make so he can be prepared for next seasons campaign.

Also, do you think winning the FA Cup would've made a difference to KK or do you think it was purely based on his Premier League finish? I wish he wasn't gone and personally think they've made a mistake.

Thanks for any response, Ell. {Ed002's Note - We have no idea how long it will take to fill the role. All clubs are looking to do as well as they can in the EPL. Whilst it was not just based on teh EPL finish, the FA Cup would not have made any difference in my opinion.}

 

 

17 May 2012 16:05:57
Macca, I really hope u are right and we going for Klopp! He is top class manager and can really do it well!!

Owners u made mistake to sack Kenny, now go sign Klopp and remove this mistake!!

 

 

17 May 2012 15:59:01
Klopp is at 11/1 on PaddyPower. NO inside info, just from what seems to be going around, 11/1 is worth a tenner guys

Got on last night @ 25-1 with ladbrooks.
I owe macca a beer if he is right :o)

Phooey

Looks like i will giving you that tenner back mate..

Cheers

Macca

{Ed022's Note - Well Macca as you know, things in football can change so lets not swap any money yet eh!?}

 

 

17 May 2012 15:58:15
Hi eds is AVB the front runner? He is good at picking out good players but at the acual managing part not so good {Ed002's Note - I would doubt AVB is front runner - we will see soon no doubt.}

 

 

17 May 2012 15:49:21
Hi Eds, do you guys all have different sources because a couple of you think AVB is a realstic target but others saying hes not a serious contender?

Amz {Ed001's Note - yes, we all have our own opinions and sources, though we do often discuss things between us. As for AVB, Ed002 would be the one who I would personally say would know best. Yes, I would listen to her over my own sources even.}

 

 

17 May 2012 15:47:44
John Barnes - "Andre Villas-Boas should be next Liverpool manager. He can be succesful at Anfield." {Ed001's Note - that should tell us all to look elsewhere!}

 

 

17 May 2012 15:46:40
Macca, Do you have any idea on how long it will take to replace kenny or if we have been in contact with anyone? I really Appreciate yours and Ed's efforts to help us out and bring us in the know about the club i never doubt what uu or the eds say and I understand plans change but without this forum being a Liverpool fan would be a more frustrating job that it all ready is!

Cheers Sam YNWA

 

 

17 May 2012 15:42:20
When could the replacement be in place?

 

 

17 May 2012 15:39:18
Hi eds, any chance you could make a "next liverpool manager" like you did when roy hogdson was sacked?...see who the fans want
Thanks

 

 

17 May 2012 15:39:09
Everyone's dismissing AVB owing to his high line defensive tactics which were a shambles at Chelsea... Our defense on the other hand was one of the positives about our season and for that I give the credit to Steve Clarke, who if he stays, could no doubt form a good understanding with the next manager (helping out AVB) ... I'm not saying AVB is the correct appointment by any means but at least, he can attract big players, has European pedigree and could build a long term project with youth on his side. Chelsea is full of egotistical personalities which I just can't say the same about Liverpool, bias aside...
But whoever we get, please let's not look back and let's start fresh
NextGenRed

Steve Clarke's gone mate

 

 

17 May 2012 15:30:20
The departure of Kenny and the circumstances surrounding it were everything but ideal, but perhaps everyone needs to take deep breath. Kenny Dalglish is a fighter and that is both his greatest quality and biggest flaw. You can say what you want about the way the season unfolded, but Kenny went down with his head held high. So to all who claim Kenny's legacy is tarnished, you are wrong. Kenny set-up his team with the same attitude he approached his press conferences or responded to adversity. From a PR perspective it was a nightmare; but you were never going to change the man. The season was not good, but Kenny will defend his players by telling you that one league cup was won, and we could have added an FA cup to it. Clearly, this was never going to be enough, but he wanted more time to finish the job. The owners were not going to back him and that was the end of it. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Kenny lost this round, but to suggest this has brought discredit to him is just wrong. I look forward to the new chapter in the history of the club, but you won't catch me ripping pages out of it.

Canadian Fan

 

 

17 May 2012 15:28:43
Ok, I think I know who are manager will be, we will have a player manager, yes , you heard it hear first, remember the name, all others.... Dare I say it? Ok I will, all the other names are a Smokescreen, I'm in the know, he is M Owen, yes that's it folks ,,,,,
Really hope some snotty little kid has not bunked off school and beat me to this one ......

Remember the name, I'm in the know, straight from the horses mouth, my sauce told me (hienz, might be about 57 candidates tho) 100%, I was having dinner with his dog walkers aunties gardener ,

Kevc

Why do people think this type of post is funny. Ironic, obviously purposely wrong posts have been posted a thousand times.

Plain Taunt Hall

 

 

17 May 2012 15:24:34
Ed do you expect our staff positions(i.e GK coach, CEO , DOF , Manager) to be filled by the start of next month. I really think whoever the new man be needs atleast a month before pre season to know the squad , install his ideas and ofcouse get his targets. HOPING FOR THE BEST {Ed002's Note - We don't know when the roles will be filled.}

 

 

17 May 2012 15:12:26
Gutted about Kenny. How the hell is that slimeball Ian ayre kept his job Edds?
Gaz b

 

 

17 May 2012 15:12:11
its a sad day. been a lFC supporter since 1972 and today i have to call that off and dispose all my LFC jersy for good. The way the americans have treated KK, i dont see this club has a future. KK was offered to take over after Roy was sacked, today the americans who jus good in baseball and has no knowledge of the beautiful game, just sack KK. No man in earth can change a rotting club instanly. back home i am not alone, group of LFC fans have decided the treatment on kenny is unbelieveable.


last short, hope lfc rots further with the americans. soon to be release the burning of lfc flags and jersey in youtube. watch them.

How short the memory is - KD was a magnificent player - second to none in the red shirt - but he walked out on us in 1991 took a very short sabbatical and returned to be the money manager at Blackburn, leaving his successor with an ageing side - this was when our troubles really began, and have still not been sorted. So if really think he's been treated badly - grow up - it was KD who went into an FA Cup Final with tactics not to win, but try not to lose - playing Jay Spearing ( nice lad ) but never ever a Premiership Player. LFC doesn't need fickle supporters like you anyway.

John B

What language and and grammar are you using?

I gather your one of those who supports us when we win and supports another when we're losing.....RIGHT ?

 

 

17 May 2012 15:10:25
cmon fenway lets get klopp, he took care of bayern and played gr8 footy, could tempt goetz etc
5gold stars

 

 

17 May 2012 15:08:51
How long do you think it will take until the new manager is confirmed

Could take a while pal, just have patience.

 

 

17 May 2012 14:55:46
Just seen Uncle Bulgaria arriving at John Lennon. Apparently the board reckon he's the only one who could clear up such a big mess!!

 

 

17 May 2012 14:55:18
do you think ian rush would take the managers job at anfield ?

Why ? what a ridiculous post !

 

 

17 May 2012 14:52:35
Unai Emre or Van Gaal both is free.

abcd

Emery is managing Spartak Moscow now.

Alex

 

 

17 May 2012 14:51:51
There seems to be a huge divide among the fans from what i've been reading.

There is the usual deluded lot that want Mourinho or Pep Guardiola. Yeah.

Then there are those like myself that would love Rafa to come back and sort things out under new ownership.

Then there are others calling for Klopp, Martinez, AVB, Deschamps etc.

So i only hope that when the new manager is named, that we all get behind the guy and become a proper solid outfit again.

So you are just as deluded as the ones who want Mourinho and Guardiola !?

Deluded we want a proper manager like Mourinho and Guardiola and we certainly don't want Rafa back

 

 

17 May 2012 14:48:26
This is a question for the Eds and Macca.

I know that some of you personally know some of the team and I was wondering how the squad have taken the news of King Kenny's departure, i'm guessing that it must have been a shock going by Maccas comment that most of them thought he would get another year.

Personally I'm quite disappointed, but nothing we can do now so onwards and upwards!

Danski {Ed001's Note - I would term it shocked.}

 

 

17 May 2012 14:33:12
Let us look at the candidates.

Rafael Benitez : Available, he has the experience and would attract top players.Wants the job.
Unlikely to be asked.

AVB : Available, good at Porto, failed at Chelsea.
Unlclear if he wants Liverpool over Roma.

Van Gaal: Available, pushed out of Bayern. Experienced but old.Would attract players. Wants the job.

Martinez/Rodgers: Both too young and inexperiened.Want the job.

Jurgen Klopp: Unavailable. Ideal choice.

Jurgen Klinsman: Available. Probably doesn't want the job.

Joachim Loew: Available. Good choice.

Marcelo Bielsa: Available. Unknown if he would like the job.

Quique Flores: Unavailable. Middle-East.

Frank Rijkaard: Unavailable.

It's anybodies guess ? I have have probably missed someone ?

How have you come to your conclusions as to who is and who is not available?

Chris in Tamworth

How is jurgen klinsmann anymore available than klopp? amuse me

Frank De Boer I think is another possible candidate.

RedSG

Fabio Copello. Wants a return to England, would more than likely take the job, imo
Tizer red

Well thats cleared that up then! Thanks.

and you know who is and isnt interested in the job how?

 

 

17 May 2012 14:28:27
Hello Eds,
There are dozens of names being listed as possible next manager. Hope it'll be known by the end of the week. Then a list of possible ins and outs be of most interest. Whoever comes, whoever goes let's just hope that the EPL results next season will be by far better. I'd like to see Mourino as he's a winner. Klopp would be a nice one too, and he's a bit younger. Not sure about AVB but if he does the job well, why not? cheers.

 

 

17 May 2012 14:24:09
Eds/Macca,

I dont understand why so many are asking for Rafa to come back. He signed some good players but signed alot of terrible ones too who we are still trying to get off the wge bill. My major issue with Rafa is how we played under him. It wasnt great to watch and really apart from one season in the league (where we should have won but lost due to some terrible tactical decisions at the begining of the new year) we never challenged and were a cup team. I just couldnt see us ever challenging with Rafa in charge. What do yo think Ed's?

I think Martinez would be a good gamble and would pay off. During 3 seasons with Wigan he has spent 23.7 million and recouped 33.5 million. Some signings havent been great but I think having an experienced DOF with him would help. I would prefer to have Klopp as my first choice but I dont know if he would be available, same with Bielsa.

Two coaches who havent been mentioned and I would like to know the ed's opition on are Laurent Blanc and Frank DeBoer. Do you think they would be viable options? Blanc has said he might leave France, is he set for another club already? {Ed001's Note - Rafa is not for me, his football was dire to watch. I don't think Blanc would be good and it is too soon for DeBoer.}

You have to remember the players Rafa tried to sign but was told they were too expensive.

Villa, Alves, Milito, Albiol to name but a few.

He could have got Alves for 12million at the time, but instead had to settle for Kromkamp for 2million. Then a year later Alves went to Barca for 25mill.

He turned us into a top quality team who no one enjoyed playing against. Admittedly, due to his budget, we only had a good first 11 in his 6years due to the fact he had to sell a first team player to buy another.

I'm sure, given the funds, he will add real quality to the squad that we already have with a few players leaving too.

Albeit. whoever FSG employ, they will have my support. Rafa is my 1st choice though for sure....

ED001 what e your thoughts on fabio copello? The football is boring but has a good record, available and said he would return to England. {Ed001's Note - awful, awful, awful choice. Not just did he refuse to learn to speak English, despite managing England for years, but he produces dross. A footballing dinosaur, please Fabio do us a favour and retire!}

I agree Rafa would be a terrible choice. His brand of football bored me to death. He also caused trouble between himself and the board at every club he's worked as manager.

Rafa's a legend i would love to see him back outside of liverpool his record is still sound

 

 

17 May 2012 14:21:46
hi all,
in my opinion FSG are only doing whats best LFC ,removing Kenny was a brave move but it had to be done we all know we overpayed for poor players downing etc and to win carling cup and finishing 8th cannot be looked upon as a sucessful season,now hopefully with the appointment of David Dein,and a top manager who i believe FSG are looking to bring in and give major funds to compete in the transfer market and bring in top quality young players they will get us back were we belong on top.We couldnt give Kenny more money to waste on poor players and waste another season and decide then its time to change things we would have falling to far behind other top teams ,I think we will get a top manager who will bring in top young players ,FSG know they have to aim high and im sure they will

jeff :)

 

 

17 May 2012 14:07:44
i think we should thank kenny for giving it his best and helping us in our time of need , but we need to back our new manager , whoever they appoint , also we should remember what rafa did for us in his time , both men are true liverpool people and i hate to see people giving them a bad press , sure they both made mistakes , but did great things as well , but its time to move on and hope that we get the right manager to take us forward, players and managers come and go , but there will always be a liverpool football club.................lfc

 

 

17 May 2012 14:04:20
Bookies in Ireland have taken a shed loads of bets this morning on Moyes.

I don't think it will happen but somebody somewhere is thinking it might

Dublad

? must be just in dublin
k-h

 

 

17 May 2012 13:53:54
Afternoon everybody!
If anyone is interested in what I think, then read on.

I have watched the Ian Ayre interview on L.F.C. and on Sky sports and was very interested in his body language. There was no evidence of any concern at all. He seemed quite confident about the future, regarding the appointment of the next manager and where we are now from a financial perspective. he talked about the being on a solid foundation, now that the debts have been paid off, and other positive financial dealings.
The Fenway Group and the Liverpool board believe we are in a very good position to challenge the top clubs.
They praised Kenny for many things and believe no one could have done what Kenny has done as far as bringing back unity of the club and it's fans. Ian Ayre said Kenny has left a great legacy at the club.
it was purely to many bad results that brought their decision to let Kenny go.

I can not believe they will take a risk on any manager that does not possess a very, very good C.V.
and for that reason I think the likes of Martinez , Rogers, and Lambert are out of the running.

I believe the short list for the next manager of Liverpool F.C is as follows:
Manuel Pellegrini.
Pepe Guardiola
Jurgen klopp
Louis Val Gaal
AVB
Michael Laudrup.
I can not see past this group for likely candidates for what the Fenway group have in mind.
i personally don't know who i would select for the job out of the above list but hope whoever it is, that they can handle the pressure and heavy expectation at being in charge of a club like ours.

Good luck to K.K. and thanks for your efforts and two finals. still a Legend.

John.

 

 

17 May 2012 13:53:02
I am shocked, appalled and disgusted at FSG's brutal sacking of Kenny Dalglish. Any faith I had in the current owners has gone. For me, after a life time supporting the club, and twenty years as a season ticket holder, something vital has died. The soul of our club, the loyalty, belief, and the trust that Bill Shankly helped to generate, the collective ambition which helped to make our club feel unique, have been sacrificed. What has upset me most is the disrespect that FSG have displayed to Kenny Dalglish, and for so many of the club's previous achievements. In sacking Kenny Dalglish, FSG have publicly stated that they did so because they were dissatisfied by the club's league position. As other posters have suggested, what this may imply is that the be all and end all for the owners is the financial benefit arising from Champions League Qualification. If this is the case, winning trophies and reaching finals is irrelevant, as is qualifying for the Europa Cup. The problem is, this money-oriented approach completely devalues all of the club's previous League Cup, FA Cup, and Uefa Cup successes, successes which have meant a great deal to so many of us. Winning is what Bill Shankly and Bob Paisley helped to make so important for us. Now winning is irrelevant. It is only money that matters. FSG's footballing equivalent of the Night of the Long Knives has, I am sorry to say, reduced us to just another greedy and impatient club. The only saving grace, and the only hope for the future, is that FSG and LFC are not one and the same thing. Owners come and go, and it is possible that in the future, those of us who really understand what the soul of our club means might be able to welcome new owners who are capable of respecting those traditions. These are very sad times for our club.

Red Owl

Well p**s of and support someone else then. You clearly have no understanding of business. The owners have pumped a lot of money into Liverpool and needed Champions League qualification as it would help us balance the books. Harping on amount "traditions" and sentiment will not get us anywhere. Spending £113 million and finishing 8th is not on. Get over it!

Ash

On your lunch from school when you typed this were you, grow up you simple minded person, FSG have done this for the good of the club, there is no argument, kenny didnt get the results, change was needed

I have to disagree with this. You start by saying that "any faith I had in the current owners has gone". This suggests that you had little faith to start off with.

When Dalglish took on the role he knew that failure was not an option. LFC is an investment for the owners. More than likely for profit, but if not, they need to protect their investment. A lack of champions league football next season damages the value of their investment. Without it they can't spend on the players who can take us to the highest level.

FSG are as good as we will EVER get if you want owners who are capable of respecting our traditions. The "money orientated approach" is the way of the modern game. You can thank Sky for that (are you a subscriber?).

Dalglish should never have got the role on a full time basis. It was great having him back but it was always going to a be a risk that could easily backfire.

You need to trust FSG. The stadium will come, the new manager will come, the success will come.

Personally I appreciate the owners determination to succeed. Anyone satisfied with 8th is kidding themselves. Kenny's a hero, but realistically can you see him improving on this season and, as owners, would you trust him with more spending on questionable players?

Red Owl - ger a grip for God's sake

Puzzled

So you are happy with finishing 8th in t he league? Shankly is probably turning in his grave because of the teams that came to anfield and got results, finishing 30 something points behind the winners do you think shankly would be impressed by that you saay u are a season ticket holder for the past 20 years so u know how painfull its been to watch them in the league, take out maybe the 2001 season, te 2004/05 and the 2005/06 seasomn and the rest haev been very poor seasons, this was one of the worst seasons ive seen for years, being beat by poor sides only stepping up our game for the so called big clubs its a joke... i love dalglish but 8th just is not good enough, he bought poor players bar suarez and he is paying the price a change was needed and i respect fsg for making the decision its a bold thing to do... If you know anything about fsg and there other franchise the boston red sox u would know its not all about a money to degree it is but for them its mostly tradition and success something Liverpool built there foundations on... Dalglish steadied a sinking ship when he came in and we owe him for that but now its time to step back and leave a better manager come in and take us forward so we can win leagues and compete in europe... the reason Liverpool is such a big club is because of the succes the club had in the 70's and 80's and support of the team was passed down through families and generatios if Liverpool is going to continue being a Massive club this needs to continue... If the right manager is appointed Liverpool will move with the times


YNWA

Dry your eyes mate

What a drama queen, surely get in to the champions league is about winning league matches or otherwise you do not get in the top 4 positions. From what I can see FSG want LFC back in this position to go for the big cups again. You say they want the financial benefits well whats the harm in that, if you hadn't noticed football is a business now. The owners will only get money if we immprove and win the league or champs league which along with other fans I would love to see again. This would bring the chance of recruiting top talent and becoming self sustaining which should be the main aim of any club with the FFP rules coming into play soon. Back when Rafa was in charge and we were regularly competing for the champions league, ok not so much the league but were alot closer than now, none of the fans gave a crap about the carling cup as it was an unwanted distraction to the main aims. We played a weaker team in this cup as the rest of the top clubs still do, I like many enjoy cup success but not at the expense of our league position which was not good enough and with the outlay should have been much better. Dalglish along with Suarez have managed to make us the most hated club in the country, not great PR I would say. Kenny is a legend but contributed to quite alot of negativity that currently surrounds the club. It is a shame it went this way but time for a change and we move on. YNWA

Decent post,but flawed in shankly,s time the club was also a succesfull business(making money)do you really expect an owner to come in and plough 100s of millions into lfc for years as some sort of play thing?.its because of the past that lfc are in this pickle today,if the club had have been run responsivly in the past there wouldnt be this problem today.there is another option of course,if lfc fills their stadium every home game and every man woman and child donates £50 each at every home game + the ticket price,that will cover the cl lost revenue.if your not happy with that then stop complaining,the choice is yours.simples

What a ridiculous post, this has actually maddened me just reading it, FSG bought our club from the previous clowns, cleared our debts and funded Kenny in bringing in new players...but making it quite clear that they wanted Liverpool to return to the elite of England and Europe, we all knew that not finishing at the very least in the top four would be considered a major disappointment.
Somewhere along the way Kenny forgot that the league is our bread and butter, personally I wanted Kenny to stay on for a another year but how anyone can be shocked at his sacking or blame the owners for wanting better league success just baffles me. Do you think Paisley and Shankly would choose the cups over the league? not a chance!!

"The League is our bread-and-butter" “ Bill Shankly

Bazingaa

I'd have to respectfully disagree, Red Owl. I don't think Kenny being let go was either shocking, appalling, nor particularly brutal. For me, the more shocking part was that he didn't simply resign his position to make this less painful for all involved.

I don't question or know the motivation of the involved parties, but I do find that a bit strange as I would have thought that sort of action would have been the preferred solution for both the owners and LFC.

That said, I don't find these to be sad times at all, but am very optimistic. No disrespect intended to Kenny as he will also be the King, but I'm hopeful that the owners are looking to create a new era for LFC with new legends in the making and perhaps an eye to the future instead of focusing on the past.

RDL

Stop bleeting on about our history !

In response to Ash, I have been reading this site for years, and have you have not made a single positive post about Liverpool Football Club during that period. There is a search function which underlines this point. At every available opportunity you have moaned about the club, the club's managers, and the club's players. My posts, on the other hand, have always been supportive of the club, until now, and it is the owners with whom I am taking issue, not the the club. You are in no position to criticise anybody's support from the comfort of your armchair. To the others, most of whom are too scared to sign their posts, the fact that no-one will be smiling more broadly at the total mess FSG have made of a once great club than Alex Ferguson should tell you all you need to know. So far as FSG's alleged business acumen is concerned, the editors have explained that it is unlikely that a manager will be appointed until a CEO and a DOF are appointed. That, in itself, will take time. Then managers will have to be interviewed, taking more time. Then the manager will have to appoint his backroom staff. After that, the manager will need to assess the players who have not already been sold off. Then, and only then, new players will be signed, players that will take time to settle, by which time the season will be well under way. In short, only a miracle worker could achieve a Champions League berth for next season. FSG's plan, if there is one, is not only disrespectful to the traditions and past achievements of the club, it is essentially flawed.

Red Owl

Of course Red Owl, I have never once said I am "disgusted and appalled" by anyone in the club. Criticising players who weren't performing (who ironically, indirectly got Kenny fired) is one thing, being disgusted is another. Having a go at an organisation who have pumped 100s of millions into our club is, quite frankly, disgusting!

Ash

 

 

17 May 2012 13:51:07
Just a quick question
Regardless of agreeing or disagreeing with the cull that FSG have done, would you say it would be gross incompetence if they didn't have replacements ready to step in ?

Respect would be to leave it a day or two, mismanagement would be a week or more.. We are about to see how good our owners are!
And I'm worried..
What about you
PistolPete

HI Pete
I would like to think that they would of had a back up plan, just in case Kenny didnt work out...

Phooey

 

 

17 May 2012 13:50:21
Is it just me, or does anyone else think the board should get the DoF in place first before appointing a manager, at least that way there should be less conflict between the two positions.

Red4Ever

P.S., Personally I think we should go for Klopp, although we missed a trick in we could have gotten Big Sami before he took over at leverkusen.

 

 

17 May 2012 13:47:48
Klopp, Van Gaal, Unai Emre they have done well in top team.

Deschamps, cappello also

 

 

17 May 2012 13:46:46
AVB would be my no1 choice for the job i know he had a bad time at chelski, tactically i think he would do well for us people seem to forget that it takes longer than 6 months to implement a tactic to a side. He was trying to build a younger team something that we are doing at the moment so he would be perfect for us. And on another note im sorry but you need to stop living in the past Rafa had his chance you should never go back it never works.
Pistolero714 {Ed001's Note - he had them playing to his tactics, they were just terrible.}

Were Chelsea not 5th with AVB 3 points off 4th when he got fired, a lot better then the position they finished. A lot of the stick he got was unfair imo. A manager should be the boss not a bunch of the older players.

Ska-oop

 

 

17 May 2012 13:44:31
I have gotten over the shock of Kenny's departure and am getting excited again. Not for the immediate future, as clearly we have no direction and are going nowhere for a while. I am excited that a whole new list of transfer rumours will now have to start, pending the new manager. Forget De Jong et al.

examples:

AVB: Ofcourse everyone will link him with players from Portugese league (Hulk, etc.).

Benitez: All spaniards again.

Klinsmann: All Germans.

Martinez: Well, atleast he'll be happy with what he's got!

Rijkaard: This was never possible so I won't even bother.

Did I miss anyone? Or yeah, Mourhino and Pep. Mayb Fergie too?

And Rodgers? Oh yes more English players

 

 

17 May 2012 13:43:37
Kenny's undoing was his priority setting. The game has changed so much it's now all about the money rather than silverware. He put all his eggs in one basket and went for the 2 cups rather than prioritizing the league. Look at the key players injured in the carling cup this season - lucas, agger, johnson, gerrard.
How many top teams rest players in the premiership to play in the carling or fa cup - none and that was kennys downfall. He wanted to give us fans silverware as it had been 6yrs.
I think his priority would have been the league next season but it's too late. I also think the all british buying mentality is outdated and best players in the league are the foreign players - Van Persie, Aguero, Van der Vart, Silva, etc.
So where does the future lie - martinez, AVB, rogers, rafa are all being banded around but I wouldn't go for any of these. We need a top top manager to take the reigns - I would like to see Jochaim Low after the euros are done. Germany play exciting football even though they no longer have stand out names. He would be great for the club.

Germany dont have stand out names are you high they probably have the second to third best team in the world on paper their entire team practically is known by at least 90 per cent of everyone who follows football.

Kopping a feel

 

 

17 May 2012 13:41:02
Klopp is the 1st choice but he is a very close friend of Dortmund owner. so he may not leave Dortmund. Van Gaal have huge experiance . Unai Emre just leave Valencia so he is free there.

R-R

 

 

17 May 2012 13:40:04
Ed001,
Having read a little around FSG's next steps, do you think their priority for appointments may go something along the lines of :
1. a new CEO (e.g. Dein ?)
2. a new DoF (e.g. Txiki Begiristain ?)
3. a new "head coach" (e.g. god knows)

Or would numbers 1 and 2 above be the other way around.
It seems that FSG want to get their key appointment in (is this the DoF ?), who will then himself play a key role in hiring a new, or part of a, coaching team.
The Real KB
ps all eds, thank you very much for the site and your efforts. I know we all give you gyp at times, but sites like this do help get stuff off your chest and, for me, it's a part of the old LFC style. Free as well. {Ed001's Note - I would expect it to be the order you have said, the new CEO first, who will decide on the new DoF. Then the two of them appoint the manager. Any other way round, well it just smacks of amateurism!}

Have I missed something? why are we looking for a CEO?

Having blanket firing spree's has the look of Amateurism aswell. I believe FSG will get it right in the end but they really need to sort s**t out and have much greater communication with the different stakeholder groups, when they are staying so close to the forefront.

Ska-oop

Agree with Ed001, but Ian Ayre just said in his interview that 'they' and I guess that means him and the owners start a search for a new manager today. Well, no mention of DOF or new CEO.

AG

 

 

17 May 2012 13:39:09
AVB is being bandied about a lot in terms of our manager position but there's seems to be a lot of rejection of him from fans. Whilst he wouldn't be my first choice I do not think he would be a bad appointment by any means.

- He is a young, up and coming manager with fresh ideas, this is a plus.

- He is very much invested, as part of his own philosophy, into a long term, youth based approach to the game. This is exactly what the club has been moving towards in recent years and he could help continue that development.

- Chelsea fans decided to lambast the manager and support senior players who were badly undermining the manager because of a run of bad results. If senior Liverpool players tried to undermine a Liverpool manager there would be a markedly different reaction from Liverpool fans. Primadonna's, ego's and players who believe themselves to be bigger than the club are not appreciated at Anfield - any such actions would, instead of increasing pressure on the manager, lead to pressure and anger towards the players. To summise the chief problems AVB had at Chelsea would not be problems he would have to deal with at Liverpool.

- His brief stint at Chelsea ignored AVB has a fine record at an early age. I would not expect instant success but I believe the man could lay real foundations at our club and, given adequte time, implent the long term plans and ambtions held by owners, players and fans alike.


In short I don't think the appointment of AVB would be a disaster, far from it. He has the credentials in place and, in the right setting, could thrive. What the owners do remains to be seen but I hope, if AVB is picked, that it is not seen as the disaster some people are making it out to be.


SMc

 

 

17 May 2012 13:36:49
Just wanted to drop a line to say big kudos to Kenny, he has given his all to this club and I would hope his status to all the fans remains untarnished and unsoured, he will forever be the King of LFC.

But we should understand the owners are businessmen, and we must take positives from the fact that they have shown that they have the balls to make big calls. Heres to hoping for a top manager, some solidarity and some good signings to add to what we have, must must must keep our spine of Reina, Skrtel, Agger, Lucas, Gerrard and Suarez, a great platform to continue building off.

Chin up Reds we are all in it together, from the Wirral to Pakistan,

The A man

Spot on sir and great call.

As much as all Liverpool fans worship KK, he was given a target of top four finish which he did not deliver. KK knew that himself and although he tried his best, in the end it was found wanting.
If Roy (or any other manager for that matter ) had the record that KK had presided over last season the fans would have been calling for his head>

FFS we should all get behind whoever FSg appoint and give them our full support as we all want the same thing. A successfull Liverpool FC. Have we forgotten how close the club came to administration under H&G??

I feel sorry for KK of course we all do, but I really think that he let his heart and love for Liverpool rule his head.

On another note who would I want for a new manager?
The best man to take the club back where we all want it to be. Competing at the top in both the EPl and Europe. If that means it will take five years to do so, then so be in

Best wishes

John

Damn straight, Kenny in 18 months has won a cup, lost in a final of another cup. Whilst the league has over shadowed the cup runs. I love the little Scots man, he's like a 2nd Dad too many Liverpool fans.

I hope the fans sign his name in honour and respect at the first possible chance on the Kop.

He gambled, it might not have paid off, it might have in time. But what he has done in near 30 years for us, as a player, player manager and as a manger; is more than anyone could have asked for.

A true legend of the club and i'd buy him a glass or twelve of his favourite tipple any day. True great, not just for Liverpool but for the beautiful game we've all loved and enjoy since our school play ground days.

Top guy Kenny Dalglish.

 

 

17 May 2012 13:34:03
i dont want mouriniho ill give u 1 good reason look at inter milan hes bleed them dry

European champions winner with two clubs.

 

 

17 May 2012 13:31:51
Atletico Madird president Enrique Cerezo has said that they have received 'no concrete offer's for Falcao, but 'if a bid arrives, we will study it'. If Fenway REALLY mean business, they'll buy him before anyone else gets the chance, and put a TOP QUALITY manager in place immediately, such as Klopp.

Does the player get a say in this like? Im quite sure he would prefer to play for a champs league club not a club with no soul and no direction.

I think falcao would come

city they have 4 top strikers

chelsea they have 2

united won't get him they are dying

arsenal are cheap

spurs wish they could

Liverpool would get him if he had to come to the PL

 

 

17 May 2012 13:29:00
eds,macca, anyone, 1 question your thoughts, DOES THE FUTURE LOOK PROMISING NOW FOR LIVERPOOL FC!! {Ed001's Note - impossible to say until we see who is appointed.}

Less promising than yesterday - which sums the club up, unfortunately :(

A member of the SOS (spirit of Shankley) was on the radio today, his opinion as too the future of Liverpool FC was not at all rosy.

He thinks a new manager will have to stick with the vast Majority of the squad inherited from Kenny and for thwo years there will be little investment in the squad (little in comparision to Opponents).

Hardly the stuff if true to attract big name managers

Runaway Train

Looks as safe as the titanic. The unsinkable ship

 

 

17 May 2012 13:28:59
kd has gone now its sad but the league results told everyone that we were not where we should be we are lfc we should not accept 8th behind newcastle everton ect a full season with cash to spend was a fair chance it wasnt good enough real lfc fans will agree .
i find kd saying cup over league does not fit in with the lfc mantra i will also add we scraped through the carling cup just on penalties againts a lower league team.
i think the owners have shown responcability to the fans by saying all those home defeats and draws is not moving forward.
lastly i was sad to see kd go but we are not a mid table club...
thanks mal

 

 

17 May 2012 13:28:00
Thanks Kenny for all that you have done for the Club and the supporters. You are still the King!

Pankaj

 

 

17 May 2012 13:25:15
AVB odds are now 13/8 if we get andre vila boas most fans will judge him on the chelsea job who ever is the new manager get behind him

 

 

17 May 2012 13:25:12
hi edds if avb got the job i think you would see a few porto players come in ive seen a few talents in the team an he would no them well i can see the likes of hederson going dowing spearing kuyt johnson carra an we would keep carroll an swarez what do you think mate {Ed001's Note - how many Porto players did he take to Chelsea?}

 

 

17 May 2012 13:24:38
Honestly at the end of the day I'll support anyone who FSG apoints
That's the Liverpool way
RedRambo

Even Roy Hodgson? I doubt it

 

 

17 May 2012 13:22:57
If fsg have any realistic hope of making lfc league challengers anytime in the next ten years then there is only one man for the job. young, successful (both in the epl and abroad) and a proven winner, then it has to be jose mourinho. pull out all the stops spend the money and get him in now!! Dont go around in circles for another 22 years. AVB, martinez, klopp will only crash and burn. FFS fenway were you on mars when AVB was in charge at chelsea this season? Wasting more time and money. Liverpool football club deserves, no demands to be up there at the top of the tree.

Like him or loath him jose is the one man who can drag lfc back to where they belong.

RedMax

Thankyou for saving me time to write this! I agrre totall. Get Mourinho and we will win the league.

He won't come anyway, he hasn't won the CL with Real yet! Not that I would be overly impressed if we got him! Saying that, I would support him, unless he didn't deserve if for one reason or another during his spell with us, like poke an opposition staff member in the eyes!

Keith

 

 

17 May 2012 13:22:19
Are you booged down with posts today Ed? No worries - just wondered why my post earlier this morning didn't make it. Probably just drivel anyway but as long as I haven't offended anyone.
Cheers - great job you're all doing!
The Goatherder
JFT96 {Ed001's Note - hundreds behind mate, not just on Liverpool either.}

 

 

17 May 2012 13:19:03
Ed's As much as i dont want Liverpool to rush the decision for a new manager, me being an impatient fan, can we expect to see any major head way made in the next couple of days or is this looking more like a weeks time process, nice one ???? {Ed001's Note - I certainly wouldn't expect it done this week.}

 

 

17 May 2012 13:08:17
did anyone see what suarez said last night about moving to spain
does he not realise that it is probably his fault we are in this mess at the moment

Oh shut up would you, yes it was a factor but poor results cost kenny

Mate that is an old old old interview that we alll read at the start of this season its just journo stirring. He might well be going but that interview is nothing knew

Did he actually say it last night or was it taken from an old interview?

Keith

Have you ever heard of the term jump before your pushed? I think he knows what's coming.

 

 

17 May 2012 13:08:15
The fact that Steve Clark has stayed in his
position points to AVB as they were together at Chelski under Mourinho

 

 

17 May 2012 13:07:36
First, I was devastated yesterday when we lost Kenny. He is amazing, and I believe he deserved another season. He is a fantastic man-manager, and I think he could have gotten the team to the top with a few more signings this summer. However, I do not think he was ever going to be the long-term solution, so I'm guessing FSG just wanted to start fresh as soon as possible. We'll see how that works.

I would be very surprised is Klopp left Dortmund. He just seems very attached to the club and he's coming off a great season. He has built so much there, and it would be difficult to imagine him just uprooting after starting something great there. I would be so happy if he moved to Liverpool though!

The other manager that would be great, but I haven't seen his name discussed, is Didier Deschamps. I think now would be the ideal time to move for him - Marseille did not have a great season, but he turned them into a relevant team after being under the radar for years.

I don't think I would be very excited about AVB unless he had very strong people around him. He would need a very strong DoF and first team coach for him to be successful in my opinion.

I do not know much about Bielsa, but he has turned Bilbao into a very good team - pretty quickly. He would be a great coach to get, and I do not think he is completely out of the question because he has only been with Bilbao for one season.

I think we have a realistic chance of getting AVB, Deschamps, and Bielsa. I would be extremely happy with either Deschamps or Bielsa, and I hope that FSG get this right because if not, then it could really hurt the club.


Thanks,

CSeiling
{Ed001's Note - Deschamps rejected us once, I can't see why he would change his mind, but I would assume FSG still like him.}

Erm because he made commitment to his club now they aren't in the CL he will be free and won't pass up the opportunity again

 

 

17 May 2012 13:05:15
hi edds do you think the owners will go for rafa or a v b reason am asking is because i think they will be thinking all the orther managers we have been linked with all there clubs will want compansation for there manager leaving an do you think are owners will go down that road after paying compo for hodgeson an it didnt work out your thoughts on that my mate {Ed001's Note - I doubt either AVB or Rafa are in the running at all.}

 

 

17 May 2012 13:05:10
Why should AvB be good enough for Liverpool look at what he done at chealski.he couldn't get them to play for him.we are in deep trouble if he is appointed manager.by far not good enough for lfc.

 

 

17 May 2012 12:58:48
We need a replacement that bring high profile players to the club so the likes of martinez, rodgers and lambert are no good i think the athletic bilbbo manager would be best an hopefully he cud bring munian

I too would love Bilbo Baggins, we could dominate middle earth!!

 

 

17 May 2012 12:58:18
Hi Eds,

Thanks for doing a great job at a busy time! I'd just like to add my thoughts on the new appointment and would be interested in your thumbs up or down opinion!

Firstly, so sad to see Kenny depart but can see why. I dont think he ever fitted their long term plan in the first place but they had no other choice. With a cold head on my shoulders, probably the right decision in retrospect but gutted all the same.

The FSG model for their ideal manager is someone who is young and up-and-coming who can demonstrate a recent successful CV. As much as I think Rafa would be a success again under FSG, he definately does not fit their ideal profile, so he can be counted out.

Up and coming managers in the premier league can also be discounted. I cant believe that FSG would consider 'survival' as an adequate CV highlight, which will see Martinez, Rodgers and Lambert drop out.

They want a young manager who has demonstrated they can win and perform well over the course of a league season. To this end, I believe Jurgen Klopp is THE stand out candidate, having won the Bundesliga 2 years running and having shown he can win at the same time as promoting youth talent to the first team.

The only question is, would Klopp take the job? If he would not, the next choice would be De Boer who has a similar CV at Ajax although in a less competative league. Laudrup may also be in with a shout.

AVB has demonstrated that he does not get on with the press and that a top 4 finish may be beyond him in the Prem League, which means he is out.

I could be wrong, but these are my educated guesses on the priority of the targets.

1. Klopp
2. De Boer
3. Laudrup

Thank you for reading!

 

 

17 May 2012 12:58:06
if FSG want to buy players who will increase in value, then rafa is the man:
torres - chelsea
masch - barca
arbeloa -real
alonso - real

obviously people will mention the likes of jovanovic but i believe he was a free transfer. most of the duds were cheap/free. aquilani didn't play for long under rafa.....maxi was 1m I think. Okay, I haven't taken into account the wages, but if there is a director of football then rafa can concentrate on football and not the money side....

apart from the money side of it, rafa can bring success. 84 points is a club record (I think). people say he blew the title but we overachieved in the first place. we had no right to even expect to win the title.

no one is sure if rafa bought keane or not, or whether he sold alonso because he thought he would get barry. but with a good DOF these problems could be avoided.

BRING BACK RAFA!

redkenyan

p.s. "Houlliers team" which won the champions league also included alonso (vital penalty) and luis garcia (vital goals against chelsea and juve)

Rafa wasted nearly 40m on 2 absolutely rubbish players, Kean and Aqulani, who was injured at the time and will probably go for about 5m...
Thanks, but no thanks. no thanks

How many other top managers have wasted more than that on two players then?
If you say none your way off.

A certain Veron at 30 million plus comes to mind for starters
Jonesred

 

 

17 May 2012 12:56:45
there is only 1 man for the job martin o neil look at the job he done at sunderland at villa and took celtic to europa final why is so many liverpool fans against it id like your openion ed {Ed001's Note - I would rather have Rafa back and I would rather give the job to the tea lady than have Rafa back.}

 

 

17 May 2012 12:56:31


Best wished to Kenny Dalglish.

I sure we will never know the discussions that actually led to Kenny being "sacked" I'm sure there were many reasons.

Without going over the hard luck, hit the woodwork 30 odd times,Suarez, bad decisions,should have won that game, and other "reasons...........

The manager puts the team out on the park and expects maximum effort(busting guts) whatever the game, reason , or weather.

I've seen more effort managing kids football teams at weekends, where they play for fun, not tens thousand pounds each week.

Last season seen a liverpool team(my opinion) for the first time in many years, who did not / could not make use of space available / combined with players who just did not want to move in to space, and were unwilling / unable to go past a man often enough.

Far too many games this season in particular the players were not up for it. In the main the majority are internationals, highly paid individuals, who, when it mattered, did not put in the effort required.

Things seem to go bad after the arsenal game 9my opinion)

Its a bad day at the office when the manager takes the can for a lack of effort from individuals who he picked and relied on, never mind tactics, and he played out of position crap. Are we to believe these professional players can only play in one position and can only put the effort in when it suits them.

Now I am not making excuses for Kennys tactical play / choice of formation and players, but lets hope certain players change their idea, of what it means to play for Liverpool.

The players are also responsible for performances not just the manager.

Now the rants over, well done Eds on percentage of reliable information given by yourselves, and Macca who between all of you take a lot of unfair stick.

Im sure all bets are off now that Kenny gone as whoever the new manager is going to be and DOF will have their own idea and slant on how LFC can progress. Bit worrying that there are several key positions in the management side of things, now vacant and this is an important time of the season for signings, deals etc.....

How are we going to negotiate signing ??

Eds ? whats the average monthly hits for visitors to site.

Jim22
{Ed001's Note - average monthly page views are about 6.5m for the Liverpool site.}

6.5m - thats fantastic. well done eds. well done liverpool fans. thats evidence of the passion reds fans have for our club.eds - keep up the great work.
Red first and last {Ed001's Note - the average is increasing as well.}

 

 

17 May 2012 12:52:06
The level of our manager will show our budget/summer transfer funds this year in my opinion . We are going to need someone very tactically astute to get us a little higher than last year. We are still 4 players minimum short of making our starting 11 to match any of the top 6 ! Benetiz went because he didnt get the backing, but imagine him with a good budget ! !

If our budget is low then lets cherry pick the best players we can get from the other teams.

We need an overhaul of certain players.

AURELIO out of contract
SPEARING simply not good enought
SHELVEY from the bench
HENDERSON from the bench
BELLAMY from the bench
CARRAGhER - make coach
JOE COLE - SELL - too old
MAXI - SELL - too old
KUYT - SELL - too old
ADAM - SELL - not good enough
PACHECO from the bench
AQUALINI - try and keep him !
COATES - from the bench/rotate more.

Quality needed striker/winger/midfielders x 2

And theres options :-

J.HOLLIET FROM BLACKBURN
SIGUARDSON ON LOAN AT MOMENT TO SWANSEA
just to name 2 !

Young pacey players we need ! and lets develop the team !

Nothing wrong with our back 5. or obv Lucas Or Gerrard, with Henderson challenging. You need 3 wingers in a club we have ! You need minimum of 3 forwards we have 3 but 1 cannot play all the time. 4 quality mids we have 2 and 2 learning but we had our 2 players out alot ! It doesnt take rocket scientist to see our gaps !

Agree with everything going out and keeping Pacheco and Aquilani. but the places we need are

Quality needed striker x 2/winger/midfielders x 2/Lb cover

ST; Falcao
CF; Jackson Martinez
falcao value by club 35m and martinez value by club 7m. for both 42

Winger; Elia
value by club 9m

DM, CM, AM, AM; Diame, Aquilani, Nocilas Lodeiro, Pacheco
free, free, free, free

LB; Armero - both him and Falcao are Colombian internationals and get along very well
estimated value 8m

60m = £49m take away kit deal money = £26m

and "Potential" player sales of cole, kuyt, adam, spearing, amoo, darby and wilson could take the net spending lower ranging from £11 - £26m so therefore I believe Falcao is a viable option.

suso, sterling, silva to sign long term contracts

This would not only make us into a proper champions league team but also a EPL title contender.
433
--------------Reina---------------
Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Enrique
-------Lucas---------Diame*-----
--------------Gerrard-------------
----Suarez--------------------Elia*
--------------Falcao*-------------

Rest of the squad

gk; doni, gulacsi
rb; kelly, flanagan, mendy(lb)
cbr; carra, sama
cbl; coates, wisdom
lb; Armero*(lw), robinson
rw; toni silva (rwf/am)
lw; bellamy(rwf/lwf), sterling
cm; Aquilani*(am), henderson, shelvey(am)
am; Lodeiro*(rw/rwf), Pacheco*(lwf), suso(right midfield), teixeira(left midfield)
st; Jackson Martinez*
cf; Carroll

suso, sterling, silva, sama, teixeira, mendy should all move to the first team.

 

 

17 May 2012 12:48:52
The sacking of Kenny Dalglish should not come as any surprise to anyone; FSG made it clear at the beginning of the season that Champions' League qualification was the target and Dalglish, and his underperforming players not only failed to hit the target, they missed it by a margin so wide that, if repeated at Lord's during the Olympic archery competition, it will lead to carnage in the crowd. By any stretch of any imagination, to fail so epically is unacceptable and the buck needs to stop with someone. The manager. Dalglish had to go.

But¦and it's a very big but¦I would question the validity of FSG's expectations. Consider where the club was in the last dark days of H & G: one day from administration, selling its assets, dropping like a stone. Moreover, at the same time, the premier league was seeing Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester City emerging to challenge the traditional hegemony of the so-called ˜Big Four'. Liverpool were in a state of turmoil, in a maelstrom from which it nearly didn't escape. Whilst United, Chelsea, Arsenal, City and Spurs were enjoying the stability brought about by capacious wallets, capacious stadia, sound business practices or a combination of all three, Liverpool were worrying about whether they would exist as a meaningful premiership proposition.

The new owners certainly rescued the club, and the supporters should be eternally thankful for that, but by setting wholly unrealistic and inappropriate targets for the manager, they kick-started the spending that has, ultimately, led to Anfield's month of the long knives. By vaunting youth and resale value at the same time as craving an almost instant return on investment, FSG created an atmosphere of fear. Too much money was paid for unproven talents who have, not surprisingly, given the weight of expectation, failed to achieve their undoubted potential.
The facts are these: there are five clubs now established as stronger than Liverpool, and, if Alan Pardew can continue Newcastle's renaissance, there will soon be a sixth. It is going to be horrendously difficult to break into that top-six clique, let alone achieve the golden fleece of the Champions' League. I don't think whoever is appointed will be able to do that in one season.

So, for the sake of all of us who have supported this club through the good times and through the storms, please, FSG, do not make unrealistic expectations of the new man. Let him build. Let him make mistakes. Your job, FSG, is to support him financially and get the stadium issue sorted out. Evolution not revolution. Things will take time.

Grammar Nazi

 

 

17 May 2012 12:47:37
Lucien Favre of Borussia Monchengladbach is worth considering.

I would more than happy to see Klopp taking over (perhaps with his fellow countryman Didi Hamann as assistant!). However, as getting Klopp isn't going to be that easy I would like to throw the name of this Swiss-born manager into the ring. I know he's not the sort of glamorous appointment that many would like to see, but I think he could do a good job for us. The Swiss manager has been successful at very stage of his career. He won the Swiss Title for FC Zurich with a bunch of 20-year-olds, he went to Hertha Berlin (a team with a tiny transfer budget) and got them to 4th in the Bundesliga, then joined Borussia, saved them from relegation and got them up to 4th.

He is also known for being very good at developing, encouraging and using young players. Any of you that have seen Borussia play this season will know that he has the fast, attacking style of play that Liverpool fans expect. He is multi-lingual.

I realise that he would be gamble, but no more of a gamble than some of the others names being mentioned (Martinez, Lambert, AVB and so on).

If anyone is interested there is quite a good recent article about him in a newspaper here:

www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/feb/13/lucien-favre-borussia-monchengladbach


Finally, I'd just like to say whoever we get, I hope to God it's not Martin O'Neil.

-SH-

 

 

17 May 2012 12:43:34
People might suggest big names but as for me I will stick with a coach that will put to use good tactical approach and not hesitate to stand up to lackadaisical players.
Martinez is getting a lot of mention but I am not sure he will be a great manager for LFC. See what managing L'POOL almost did to Hogson's career. See there are some coaches that will be extremely wonderful for middle table teams like WBA, Swansea (No disrespect meant) but they will fumble if given the opportunity to manage bigger teams.

For me I will stick with a return of Rafa, not for sentimental reasons but for the fact that he is a really good coach. AVB might be able to bring in good players but what is the possibility that there will not be a repeat of what happened with Chelski? One other person we will sure miss is Steve Clarke.

So let's hope our owner will do us a lot of good by bringing back Rafa or going for a coach as experience as Capello.

O'seunfunmi (Anfield Faithful)

 

 

17 May 2012 12:42:15
Seen ppl giving of stick to FSG. Lets not forget this is their investment they have every right to make their own decisions after all under Dalglsih we have been very poor, way below our standard.

I know this day would come its why I wanted Dalglish not to be appointed permanently, he should have left after stabilizing the club.

One thing that concerns me is the hype around Roberto Martinez, Lambert or Rodgers to become manager. What has they achieved. They are at best at keeping their respected teams in BPL. We are gunning for at least fourth spot, minimum standard.

And you ppl really think they can attract top players to the club, well if players like Diame, Rodallega, Figueroa, can certain be attracted but is that our standard.
Remember under Woy most our targets were the likes of Carlton Cole, Zamora and all those second class at best average players.

I am completely against the idea of appointing someone like Martinez or Lambert as manager. We need a manager with enough experience at high level.

My choice is Klopp but I don't think its possible atm so AVB, Derschamp or Laudrap won't be a bad choice.

Glad Clarke is still at the club, we should keep him and hope he works under the next manager as well, he has done brilliant. He is the secret behind our rigid defense this season.

Bosco

 

 

17 May 2012 12:40:40
Why all the obsessions with Rafa Benitez? He will not be returning to Anfield, in my opinion. His football was defensive and he failed to get us into the champions league in his last season in charge. He never gives the youth a chance so why would people want him back?

I've read a few comments saying Rafa would get us in the CL, I disagree. When Rafa was incharge Spurs and City were just starting to get better making it harder than ever to achieve top4.

If Rafa was appointed you can say good bye to Carroll which I think will be a massive mistake and not only a loss to the team but at a loss to the club in terms of what he would be sold for.

I will support Raffa if he's appointed but will be over the moon if he isn't. He had 6 years and underachieved in my opinion. It wasn't his team that won the CL, yet Rafa gets all the praise.


I think FSG will bring in a younger manager. The three managers I think they are considering are;
AVB
Brendon Rogers
Martinez
These are just my opinions on who I think will be appointed alongside a decent DOF.

For the outsider I would say Fabio Copello who has a fantastic PPG record and has won the league with every club he has managed.

The football will be like watching paint dry and we would spend 80 minuted of the game in our own half defending but FSG want points, not entertainment.

I'm sorry for ranting but I'm still gutted and probably will be until the new manager is appointed.

I'm sure I'm going to get bashed by all the kenny out brigade who are calling for Rafa to come back.

TIZER RED

Hallelujah! At last someone who remembers the Benitez years for what they truly were. Horrible, defensive football apart from a 6-month period in 2008 that most Rafa-ites will try and make you believe was the norm under his management.

All the money he spent while at the club and he never won anything with the team he built. And at the end of his £230m team building we finished 7th, one place better than Kenny - but these people wanted Kenny sacked and Rafa put back in-charge.

He has fallen-out with players, DOF, back-room staff and colleagues at every club he has managed.

To be honest none of AVB, Brendan Rogers or Martinez fill me with confidence, are any of these any better than Kenny? but I would take anyone one of them over Rafa.

JRG

 

 

17 May 2012 12:38:35
I strongly believe that Pep Guardiola will be LFC manager for next season. FSG was planning for the future since December last year because the league results were not up to the mark and it was around that time itself that Pep Guardiola had almost made up his mind not to extend his stay at Barcelona which he has helped shoot to new heights and win so many trophies. May be, he wants a new challenge and time to prove that he can do what Mourinho has done in Portugal, England, Italy and Spain by joining LFC and creating history again. Like that he'll prove that he doesn't need the likes of Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Villa etc to show what he's capable of and one of the best in the world. Personally, with him taking over and his choice of players, we'll soon be CHAMPIONS again. Make us hear this wonderful bit of news fast FSG!!!
San

 

 

17 May 2012 12:37:02
the king has gone and people feel like the world has ended! kenny had to go eighth place is not were liverpool fc should b in the league. just heard from a very reliable source that rafa will defo not b nxt manager but martinez and AVB r both being watched...... personally i think they r both no good and could do no better than king kenny

I very much doubt martinez or avb r in the running for the job.
Indian Buzzer

 

 

17 May 2012 12:31:22
everybody going on about bringing rafa back hasn't anybody learned from kenny DON'T GO BACK !!.yeah rafa won us the european cup,f.a cup but he also in some liverpool supporters eyes cost us the league because he was to stubborn when he had the fall out with the last owners.what harm can martinez do a young manager with fresh ideas to hopefully take us forward and possibly get lfc playing attractive flowing fooball

What you're missing there is that most people who want Rafa back didn't want Kenny to leave in the first place, so they don't see a problem with going back.

The worst that can happen with Martinez is that he can find himself totally and utterly out of his depth and fail miserably and we'll be on our 4th manager in 3 seasons. Martinez may be a very good manager, but so far all he's done is keep Wigan in the league, something which Jewell and Fat Head were able to do too, so it's hard to tell what the limit of his ability is. It's a big risk and the attraction to him seems to be his youth.

Youth doesn't necessarily equal a good manager. Best manager in the league is in his 70s. {Ed001's Note - actually Martinez turned Swansea into the team they are today, Rodgers just continued his work.}

It doesn't matter who takes over they'll need longer then 16 mouths

 

 

17 May 2012 12:26:03
I really hope FSG appoint Jurgen Klopp.

Marcelo Bielsa will not happen because his way of coaching relies on communication - very deep and long chats about tactics etc. He can't speak English.

Jurgen Klopp's style of football is high pressure, direct attacking football. Perfect for the English game really. He's very passionate, experienced and a winner. I believe he speaks English, quite young too. Fits the bill perfectly to be honest.

Stone YNWA.

 

 

17 May 2012 12:24:28
the club needed saving from administration and the debt hugely reduced, the owners have done that.
the club listened to the fans and appointed kenny to bring the club back together, the owners have done that.
the club listened to kenny and comolli and backed their transfer targets, they done that twice.
the club needed a shirt sponsorship deal that had parity with other big clubs, they have done that.
the owners wanted a kit deal better than adidas were willing to pay and in line with others, they have done that.
they asked for progress in the league, they didn't get that. they acted upon it.
it was a sad day for lfc (and for me as a fan who idolised kenny) but an inevitable one if we're all really honest with ourselves.
i'm with macca, they want us competing at the highest level and would be surprised if they didn't get what they want and the man they want in charge...

s.p

100% bang on.

Agree with you mate, so people stop all this whinging and get behind whoever is appointed and get behind the players. Noel

 

 

17 May 2012 12:21:08
Hi Eds' keep up the good work. Just eondering how long left klopp has on his contract? And what type of fee would be needed to pay off dortmund if he wanted to come? I think he would be a good piece to our puzzle because we are in a similar situation to that of dortmund 4-5 years ago and look what hes done since. Think hes the ideal candidate. Has avb really hot enough experience to manage a big project of progression in the prem?

Cheers

Red danders {Ed001's Note - he is contracted until 2016, does it really matter how much it would cost to get him?}

 

 

17 May 2012 12:20:49
We need a world class manger who will bring in 3-4 world class players ASAP!! FSG better have this planned out!!

Paul

 

 

17 May 2012 12:17:33
Eds, this could be afternoon madness but...what about stevie G? player manager as heard alot of talk in the past about his fitness and may end up like bella's playing every 3 games?


just a thought {Ed001's Note - please no!}

 

 

17 May 2012 12:13:34
To the eds,
What are your thoughts on the possibility of Joachim Löw? Young enough, with experience and the German National squad do play very good attacking football. {Ed001's Note - not sure he has shown any inclination to leave Germany.}

 

 

17 May 2012 12:10:49
Eds, i recall you saying AVB was tipped to become the new Roma manager. What's the situation on that currently?

Cheers {Ed001's Note - I believe they have someone else lined up now.}

 

 

17 May 2012 12:15:12
It's very sad that KK has been sacked. I still have a feeling that if he had just spent the money he had more wisely, this could all have been avoided. The problem is that the next manager will have his own ideas, and very few top managers play with "traditional wingers and a target man" type set up which would raise a doubt over Andy Carroll usefulness to the team.

Ash

I agree Ash. If we get a coach from outside england, or even from south america, they usually do not rate target men. they prefer more mobile forwards like a torres or higuain.
We may well have to replace our entire strikeforce with suarez n kuyt also set to leave.
Indian Buzzer

 

 

17 May 2012 12:01:03
I think avb would be a good manager if full control of transfers he can atract world class players hulk/Rodrigues /falcoa an so on he wonted young faces at Chelsea an the old players didn't like it that's y they weren't performing there think ideal manager

 

 

17 May 2012 11:58:04
why aint nobody talking about louis van gaal ?

very good manager with great statistics as manager !

all round coach who promotes alot of young players from the acadamy

would love too see him at liverpool and wouldnt be

surprised if he was appointed next liverpool manager .....

lw12

Great manager.

Too old.

They always wanted a younger manager who could take on a big project to build an Empire.

It'll be a young manager.

BJH YNWA (Imagine Van Gaal with Downing........ or anyone else who shirks a 50/50 or doesn't chase every ball. lol. He'd raise hell on that training ground. I wish he was 40.)

 

 

17 May 2012 11:56:54
I know Macca is usually pretty reliable, but I just wonder why Klopp would leave BVB after essentially transforming the club into what it is today?

I just don't see him taking a step down from the top of the Bundesliga to a 8th place Premier League team.

Or has he fallen out with the club or the management ect.?

Cheers!

I agree when I read up on him he lives in the town his son plays for the reserve team... He seems very happy there... hope Macca proves me wrong but cant see it either..

 

 

17 May 2012 11:55:59
Hi eds,

If AVB gets in charge, will the likes of Hulk, Mouthino, Rodrigez be possible transfer targets?

LFC fans never forget what King Kenny has done for us {Ed001's Note - how could I possibly know that?}

I thought you knew everything! {Ed001's Note - almost.}

 

 

17 May 2012 11:54:34
No young manager is going to last (AVB, Martinez, Rodgers, Lambert), given FSG's trigger happy tendencies. They want a management team for the next 4-5 years with 4th place at the end of next season. No young manager will take a job with an attached kiss of death of under-performing players, heavily divided fans and circling media vultures.....ra1969

 

 

17 May 2012 11:51:55
hey eds, i just read on wikipedia that didier deschamps contract expires this summer, i thought i would ask if it was true, because maybe he is the man that FSG want as manager? {Ed001's Note - he is contracted until 2014 and rejected us once already.}

 

 

17 May 2012 11:50:04
Klopp:
44 years old. current german domestic double, first time in clubs history.
win % over both his managed teams = 47%

Deschamp:
43 years old. current french league champions for 3rd year running.
win % over all clubs managed = 52%

Laudrup:
47 years old. currently with no team, walked from last job after his DOF was sacked.
win % over all clubs managed = 47%

Benitez: 52 years old. currently with no team. after leading Inter to club world cup, requested funds, to no avail from president of club. Benitez sacked later that year.
win % over all clubs managed = 52%

AVB.34 years old. currently with no team. guided into coaching by Sir Bobby Robson from 16 years old. followed Jose Mourinho to porto, chelsea & Inter. removed by Chelsea after string of poor results.
win % over all clubs managed = 61%

i think with FSG stating next manager will be given 4-5 years, age has to be an important factor in who leads us next.

personally, i dont think they will bring Rafa back.
if i had to choose, it would be Klopp, but will be hard to tempt him away.
Macca states original replacement was not available, and KD getting another year? ( also backed by player info?)

Then KD sacked/walked whichever to me possibly point that the original choice is now available. Dont think Pep, Jose, Van Gaal etall.

Rodgers/ Martinez/Lambert do not have proven experience at the level FSG need to go forward, so i cant see any of this type of manager chosen.

i have a feeling either Laudrup with his own DOF, or AVB with Rodolfo stepping into DOF or txiki begiristain.

Piddy.

I would hate to loose Rodolfo as reserves coach.

 

 

17 May 2012 11:48:14
Just been on Paddy Power to check odds and when choosing the link for 'Next Liverpool Manager' the following message is displayed
'This match is now over - please click on the Matches tab above to see currently live and upcoming matches'

Now, either PP know something we don't and have closed betting or there is a website problem...

IanElite

Oddschecker is the best site to get all bookmakers prices off.
all prices updated constantly.
AVB as gone out from 6-4 to 2-1 this am

Lyndon

Website problem

 

 

17 May 2012 11:47:39
18 months ago when JH + TW took over the club, there was nothing but great comments. Now they have sacked KK, they are on the defensive like they were with Hicks + Gillet. In terms of what they want is quite clear, they want to be part of the big thing. Kenny brought back a lot of belief in the club and stabilised what was ready to sink. Don't start getting down hearted about his sacking, they will get it right and maybe you will start to understand the logic in what they want to achieve for this great club. What they have done in america with their other concerns is paramount to what they want to do with LFC. Winning is the only thing these guys know, and getting behind this policy is what we all want. KK rebirth in LFC, certainly didn't work out how he and the supporters wanted. Maybe now, with the club in a stable position and with a new approach to the team, may give them the lift they need. The last signings may need that lift and with new signings coming (reports of yet another big chunck of transfer kitty), we may well be part of the happy times again. I can confirm that several managers have been approached but nothing will be concrete until the next couple of weeks. Please keep faith in the owners, they are doing what is best for the club and maybe some supportes need to look in the future and not back into the history of the club, it will come good, just give it time.

100% agree with this post, people need to start to look forward now. Our history won't help us to move on.

 

 

17 May 2012 11:46:59
The owners want someone young but i think we need someone like van gaal or ancellotti who can handle big names and attract the best players who have been there seen it and got the t shirt

 

 

17 May 2012 11:45:48
Just to say that their are some right old drama queens out today,ashamed to be a Liverppol fan because the owners have done what a lot of fans really think,but dont want to say it too loudly for fear of being callrd an armchair fan,or told to go and support a club like Chelsea,not me. Yes it's very sad that K.K got sacked,but if anyone thinks finishing 8th is acceptable for a club like our's are supporting the wrong team. I also don't subscribe to the notion that managers dont get a chance with us. End of the day if the results are good enough,and teams like Fulham aren't doing the double over us which is weak as piss,i'll be a bit happier with the next manager. Jonson

Ok so you wanted Kenny out and now you've got it, so who replaces him?

Chris in Tamworth

Will you say that when they sell Suarez?

Nick

 

 

17 May 2012 11:44:36
All the people screaming for Pep Guardiola need to learn about a sport called football.

He was the face fit ( Pretty boy manager ) that had less credentials than our very own Rudolfo Borrello but got ahead because he fitted their image.
Borrello is the man at Barcelona always has been always will be I bet Pep just wakes up the morning of the match and looks at his team and thinks you know what ill do it later coz its not rocket science.
Borrello was the one who spotted nurtured and moulded these world beaters into what they are today and couldnt get over the fact some muppet with a nice sweater and shirt was given the job before himself so blessed us with his abilitys.

Red tinted glasses

 

 

17 May 2012 11:41:08
I thought Kenny should go

But did not call for his head in a disrespectful way like some

But now that's it happened it does not seem the right thing

Be careful of what you want you might just get it

And AVB or RAFA will be sacked next year if either gets the job or that is my hope as both as managers who will never win the EPL, both have personality issues, both alliented fans and players alike

 

 

17 May 2012 11:37:52
just a quick point

how are liverpool supposed to attract big signings you finished behind everton ... and you had 100+million and spent on useless talent aka henderson (new Gerrard) downing (tim howard had more assists and goals) and carroll who scored what 6 goals all season that is a wasted 75 million and thats not even mentioning charlie adam you are in desperate need of a total overhaul and whether you like it or not king kenny ? didnt do it right at all he messed up big time he made all the wrong signings and all the wrong quotes as manager saying kit deals were as important as wins lol the 75 million could of bought you alot better talent at the end of the day and you wouldnt make half that if you were to sell them

 

 

17 May 2012 11:35:04
Hi i have no rumours or info but i just want to make a few points regarding new managers.
I would like a younger. ambitious manager who has experience and likes to play attractive football.

Roberto Martinez
PROS-Attacking football, experience in EPL, worked within tight budget
CONS-No experience at a big club or with big players, not managed in european competitions

Rafa
PROS-Tactically sound, won La Liga, Champions League etc etc
CONS-Didnt bring through many youngsters, boring football, lost the plot with alonso/barry saga, and the Fergie Rant cost us in the league

Villas Boas
PROS-Won title amd Europa League in Portugal and unbeaten season (in any league that is tough), He'll want to make amends for last season, Has links with Falcao
CONS- Fell out with Chelseas big men (would that happen at LFC?), Plays high defensive line (how would Agger/Skrtel/Carra/Coates cope with that none r really quick)

If these 3 are the front runners I would rather see Martinez or Villas Boas ahead of Rafa as if anything with Kenny has taught us is that going back for sentiment is wrong.

Finally in an ideal world even though it would/could never happen, someone young(ish), great wheeler-deeler in transfer market, consistant, looking to find a big club to take him forward, experience in EPL, great motivator, been touted as next united manager....David Moyes, just wish he wasnt a toffee

Thoughts Anyone?
Digger D

Unai Emre of Valencia he just leave Valencia so it's a Free man to get.

This whole 'sentiment' argument is stupid. Just because Dalglish didn't work out doesn't mean Rafa won't work out just because they're both former managers.

Fool you can't blame a rant for loosing the league you can argue the we thought we already had it but can't put in on the rant.

Blame it on the reff cause he whistled like a douche

blame it on fatigue, even blame it on the turf

but don't blame it on the; Raf ah ah ah, ah ah Fa rant
not the; Raf ah ah ah, ah ah Fa rant

 

 

17 May 2012 11:33:02
Anyone think the criteria for a manager should be someone who can put a firework up ALL OUR ARSES?!
We clapped our team off at the end of the chelsea game for finishing 8th for gods sake!
To quote rat face gary neville "if we (man united) finish 2nd its a summer of pain."
Such a contrast to our club. If we had finished 4th we would been dancing in the street. Wheres a balls ffs we all need to get a grip!

At this moment in time there is no comparison between ourselves and United. They have a vastly bigger stadium, vastly bigger funds to spend, a bigger squad with more quality and a stability that has been present for decades. If we would have got 4th this season it would have been an achievement, progress and we would have quite rightly been celebrating. Just because we are Liverpool and we won leagues in the past doesn't automatically entitle us to be there or thereabouts season after season. We have a lot of rebuilding and hard work to do - a bit of realism, as opposed to this insistence that "we are Liverpool ergo we should be at the top of the league" is what is needed.

Players get clapped off because, for better or worse, we are all part of the club and all in it together - it is a show of support and unity.

SMc

 

 

17 May 2012 11:27:11
I doubt Liverpool would bring in a up and coming manager as they will not be able to bring world class players to the club!

We cannot bring in world class players period. Manager can't change that.

I dont believe you need a team of world class players just look at Newcastle no world class manager but what they have is a great team spirit and a desire to play for each other and the team, yes they took a gamble on Ba and it has paid off for them massively

 

 

17 May 2012 11:26:56
I don't personally know if AVB will be manager but for those saying he was crap at chelsea what is this based on? doing exactly what he was told by Ibramovich because if he didnt he would lose his job.

from what I am aware his main objective was to completely turnover the squad which when the older players weren't shipped out didn't agree with. This wouldn't happen with Liverpool as we don't need a complete squad turnover we already play a similar style game to the one he likes and he is not going to be controlled by strings from the boardroom.

I personally think he would be good for us as he definitely would have good transfers in mind is a very bright man and dealt with the media quite well for the most part especially in his first season.

ShaneK Lfc {Ed001's Note - you seem to have missed the bit where his tactics were terrible and saw Chelsea slipping down the league.}

The 'crouch-down' of despair did not help. Cringeworthy.

DaveyBootle

It's the other things he did aswell he had Tommy Langley sacked from Chelsea TV after he criticised the team's performances he banned the reserve team from training at Cobham he fell out with thier big player's he would be a terrible choice

At ed001, when he (AVB) was sacked they were positioned one place higher than where they finished under di matteo. he also averaged 1.7 points per game to di matteo's 1.5.
doesn't that mean there league position has slipped since di matteo arrived? {Ed002's Note - They had gone from performing well at the start of the season and were declining. An independent review of the training called them one dimensional and predictable. That is why he went.}

 

 

17 May 2012 11:22:15
Here's a curve ball for you all. What about Nigel Adkins? Born Scouser, plays good football, has had success everywhere he's been.

 

 

17 May 2012 11:20:32
Macca,

Did you intentionally ommit Didier Deschamp?

Wales

Deschamp lost his touch. Unai Emre is a good choice

 

 

17 May 2012 11:19:26
Hi Ed

I think Martinez would be a great shout for liverpool he's a very bright young manager who i believe would take us forward and achieve great things, people who say we need a big name are wide of the mark the big managers won't come due to no Champions League, Guardiola never won anything before he took the Barca job he was just reserve coach and they took a chance on him and look what happened to them Martinez knows the league and his teams play great football with lesser players than we have. (Your thought please) {Ed001's Note - I would rather have Martinez than Rodgers, people forget Martinez built the core of that Swansea side, before moving to Wigan.}

 

 

17 May 2012 11:19:08
I hope the next manager is either Jurgen Klopp or Lucien Favre. Both had had fantastic seasons in Germany

 

 

17 May 2012 11:05:07
It's weird, for the last couple of weeks all I have read on hear is people criticising KK and wanting him out and now it's the exact opposite, it's like only aggrieved people post on here or unless everyone has changed their mind or maybe people just like to moan…. I for one am disappointed KK has gone but hope it turns out best for the club, I'm sure that's all KK wants at the end of the day… what's best for Liverpool fc.

 

 

17 May 2012 10:03:23
Hi Eds,

As i have seen from you previous comments, you dont rate Martin O Niel.

I think he has done pretty well with all the clubs he has been with, improving all of them.

Maybe there is something about his personality or the way he handles his player that you are aware of that we dont know.

Please shed some light on this. Because on the face value, i think he will be an excellent manager for LFC

South African RED. {Ed001's Note - he literally picks 11 players week in, week out. Everyone else just watches, unless there is an injury. He has no clue about how to get the best out of a squad, he has no idea how to freshen up a squad through the transfer market after getting his initial team together. His tactics are to put a big man up front and hoof the ball up to him while everyone else gets behind the ball. Does no one actually watch him? Have you not heard him talking as a pundit? He is clueless, it is embarrassing.}

Agree with Ed

Chris in Tamworth {Ed001's Note - twice in one week! This is getting to be a habit Chris.}

 

 

17 May 2012 01:40:09
To ED01...hope you're feeling better. I know you're getting on a bit and you probably still think Billy Liddel's our "must-keep" player......however, I would like to know if you think;
a) The current squad is value for money
b) Dalglish was only worthy of a season
c) The current owners are sincere
d) ED02 is a threat to you
e) Andres Villas Boas would be a viable option
f) Are Spearing, Downing and Adam good enough to play for LFC?
G) What's the deal with ED02?..She's a good ed but is she a Russian spy?......I love women who like footie but I draw the line at Chelski fans..
h) Is Steve Clarke staying?
I) Is ED02 good-looking?
j) Will the new manager be given enough time to assemble a squad?
k) Does Ed02 have a boyfriend?
ANFIELDPETE

{Ed001's Note - a) clearly not, we have far too many hangovers from previous eras on wages that are too high.
b) I think Dalglish deserved at least one more season, you can't overhaul a squad in one full season.
c) yes, they want trophies.
d) eh?
e) not in the slightest, clearly out of his depth in the Prem.
f) Spearing is good enough as a squad player who covers a couple of matches a season due to injuries or fatigue to others, not as a first team player. Downing and Adam, in form and full of the confidence they are lacking since they joined us, are good enough. The question is whether we can get them to that level.
g) deal?
h) no idea, I was told he handed in his resignation and was going to go.
i) she's not really my type, but 007 thinks she is the ideal woman....
j) depends on how well he does
k) she has wives, not sure about boyfriends though.}

 

 

17 May 2012 11:16:50
Interesting interview on Sky Sports with Ian Ayre. Suggest people watch

RedSG

 

 

17 May 2012 11:14:46
the owners are really starting to p**s me off.
they sack king kenny who saved us when we were a sinking ship. they have no patience what so ever. they should have understood that we are building a team for the future and fourth place was always going to be difficult. they have invested only about 50m over 3 transfer windows. this is very low for a team having champions league hopes. more that a year and yet they have not decided on the stadium. they go about sacking every one and i now wonder if they are capable of choosing the right person for DOF.

liverpool has been like a family with patience and backing the people involved. it should have been the duty of the owners to continue this. you cant treat liverpool as a business and sum it up using a profit and loss account.

hope they know what they are doing

oldmonk

Football has changed my friend. we need to make these decisions to make progress and compete and not fall too far behind.

Do you even read the posts?
Macca covered all of this.
AnfieldUSA

What a great supporter you are. They bought the club and had to go through a legal battle to do so. They wiped out over £350million of debt, got rid of Roy Hodgson when many fans were calling for it, brought back Kenny because the fans wanted him, brought in a major kit deal with Warrior (and by doing this getting lots of money, one of the highest in Europe), and are trying to please all fans regarding stadium plans or redevelopment.
Kenny's signings were poor and if we wanted top four finish they had to ensure money was spent correctly.
Get behind the owners as they are far better than Hicks and Gillette.
Digger

Did you visit this board following a home draw or defeat this season? You wouldn't be saying LFC is like a family, those days are gone. More like blood thirsty packs of wolves! The owners removed King Kenny, I'm sad about that. But the fans are by no means patient!

The fact is, King Kenny chose players that ended up costing a fortune. He may not have agreed the prices, but he didn't get them to perform either - that's completely on his head. Football is a business now, and any boss that showed year-on-year results such as KK's, would likely lose their job!

He'll always be an LFC legend, it just didn't work out this time. The owners felt the need to act to protect the club and the brand. Because the brand is all we have left to attract players and new fans!

Sad but true! Lets just hope they get the choice of new manager right!

LFC_SA

You rather unsurprisingly forget to mention the 200million debt they took care of and the new shirt Deal!!

Lyndon

You live and die by your signings in football, I think the likes of Henderson, Carroll, Downing and Adam have cost both comoli and Daglish there Jobs.... Im not saying i agree with it. All top football teams are run as Business now, unfortunatley, Too much money involved now, and money attracts greedy people..... just look at Yaya Toures agent yesterday, only last week Yaya was saying he loved city, now his agent is touting him back to Barca and to Chelsea, and all because he gets a cut every time he transfers.

KK invested £113 million over 3 windows and finished level with Fulham. Liverpool is a business, get over it!

Ash

We haven't won the league in over 20 years that's where patience gets you

This sums up WHY we had to change as a club and I, for one, agree with the swift action taken by FSG. We are a club steeped in tradition and our own way of doing things which WAS great in its day. Thats the problem we are 20 years if not more behind the top contenders in the PL as a Commercial Venture. Man Utd(it pain me to say) are light year ahead in structure as are Man city. FSG aren't mugs they will convince us all in the end I am sure of it. Thanks goes to KK for all he has given but we need to move with the times i'm afraid...I could go on...

Evvothered

You say they have only invested 50 mill how about the money spent to buy and clear debts. These guys are in it for a return and the only way to make a return is investment. They gave the fans what they wanted when Roy left now its there time to put their management team together. Have to say its sad to see Kenny go but with 14 losses and 10 draws would you allow him to spend more money if it was your money that was been spent? JH turned the Red Sox around it was ruthless but it got results so hopefully this turmoil will return LFC back on their rightful perch and p**s off the mancs. Noel

I take it you were all for giving kenny another 120 million to spend then eh? based on the success of his other signings.

You haven't got a clue mate, it was FSG who saved us

 

 

17 May 2012 11:10:01
avb? i think it could work. not afraid to drop players has a good style of play. he would get good players in. just coz it didn't work at chelsea dosen't mean it wont work for us.. example alan pardrew

 

 

17 May 2012 11:04:44
Would have to be Klopp for me. Imagine if he could bring Kagawa and Lewandowski with him!

Sam.

Why not Goetze?

Kawaga is signing for utd in the next few days

It would also be great if he could bring that stadium, champions league football and deliver a title two years running

Hummels and Subotic would be alright.

88

 

 

17 May 2012 11:01:37
Apparently Liverpool's owners want either Jurgen Klopp, Joachim Low or AVB. We will most likely get AVB but Klopp is the first choice. Low is a non-starter.

They all like working with young teams as younger players are more likely to buy into their strategies which is majorly based on micro-tactics.

AZ

 

 

17 May 2012 11:00:32
If FSG have sacked Kenny cause their target is available I think that means we have to look at Emery from Valencia as a possibility. Not going to be be at Valencia next year and had them playing good football and some great individual players that he could maybe attract.

Gazza

Emery is on the verge of joining Spartak Moscow

Unai Emery has signed for Spartak Moscow, I think. He is already off the market!

He's already taken over at Spartak Moscow mate.
KiwiRed

Think he has already taken another job

Emery is going to spartak moscow.

 

 

17 May 2012 10:54:00
Just a quick one! No rumours just opinion! Get avb(radolfo assistant) young hungry manager. We need someone to be in this job for the long haul and build for years to come! With the current squad (adding a few signings) and bringing through the youth( sterling, coady,wisdom,Robinson to name a few) we have a bright future. Give last summers signings a chance especially (hendo, Carroll, Enrique and Coates) they need time to settle. play to Carrolls strengths tho! And hendo central (last couple of games looked decent!) get behind the new manager and we can be a force again and get back to where we should be. We are LFC!! Ynwa

Frosty

 

 

17 May 2012 10:50:37
Lads AVB being installed as new favourite? What is going on with us? Has to be Rafa or Klopp! We need it done and soon, if were gona get any business done in the transfer market before the Euro's inflates player prices!

 

 

17 May 2012 10:46:18
not a rumor or anything, but after we fire King Kenny i would expect us to get a big name like Klopp, Loew, AVB,Van Gaal or even Capello(first 3 my favorites), not a guy like Martinez.
Martinez will have to prove himself, and if the owners wanted that they could have just left Dalglish 1 more year

 

 

17 May 2012 10:46:15
morning ED's.
any truth in £4.5m offer for Jordan Rhodes?
Piddy. {Ed023's Note - Who made the offer? We have no manager!}

Suspect its Fulham..

I think the tea lady did, i hear she is interim manager for now. lol
huddz red

 

 

17 May 2012 10:43:05
Hiddink till pep becomes available? {Ed023's Note - Hiddink is contracted to Anzhi}

 

 

17 May 2012 10:41:58
Liverpool owners need move heaven and earth to convince pep guardiola to be our manager. Only he can bring back the atractive pass and move football that liverpool used to play. With adolfo borrel in the junior ranks and beriguistain as director of football, we could become the new dream team;) Time for FSG to show what they are made of.

If only your spelling was as good as your imagination.... :)

Pep guardiola was already in a team that could pass and move and had players of a higher quality!Pep and AVB would struggle at l/pool, same outcome for them a year later! Kenny should of got at least till next Jan.
JayB

 

 

17 May 2012 10:41:41
Hey Eds,

Just wondered if you could clarify the whole Clarke scenario up. People saying that he has stayed at the club whereas iv been listening to TalkSport and they have said that he has left.

Thanks in advance and keep up the great work:)

Badge {Ed023's Note - He is still with the club until further notice}

Ed023 - from BBC news website last night @23.45: Steve Clarke, Dalglish's assistant, has stepped down out of loyalty to the 61-year-old Scot.
Seems there's conflicting news about Clarke

sp

 

 

17 May 2012 10:38:36
hi eds, quick question for everyone on here... Michael Owen has just anounced that he'll be a free agent, would anyone take him back?
i know that he's snubed us so many times before, and went to utd, but something tells me that on a one season pay as you play contract (and keeping him fit) (and if he would accept it) he would convert a lot of the chances we missed last season.

just a thought, dont bite my head off please.

thanks

MR1989 {Ed023's Note - Owen won't be back at Liverpool. Maybe if Blackpool get promoted he might move there}

 

 

17 May 2012 10:36:25
although I am not totally against a new manager if they make the right choice, I am disgusted at the way this has been handled and that Kenny has been allowed to leave the the club totally. Everyone keeps saying that if we'd finished fourth then it would have been OK. I want to know this:

If we had finished 4th in the league and Chelsea then won the final on Saturday, would this then have been a failed or successful season? We wouldn't have been in the Champions league as a result and would have one trophy and a Europa League place.

Would Kenny still have been sacked?

But we finished 8th not 4th

Did we finish 4th? No. We finished 8th, a long, long way from 4th. Despite the fact that speculating on 'what if's' is an entirely pointless venture I would suspect that Dalglish would not have been sacked if we had achieved 4th, regardless of what the result of the Champions League Final is, because he would have achieved what the owners set out to do. Chelsea winning the CL would have been an unfortunate anomaly. Fact is we are a long way away from 4th and that, along with the abject failure of our new signings, has contributed to Dalglish's demise.

He is a club legend, I love and thank him and wish him all the best. I think the owners made the correct decision but my image of Dalglish remains unaltered - forever a club legend

SMc

 

 

17 May 2012 10:34:41
Morning Ed's and everyone.

First of all, great work on this site....i don't know what i'd do without it!

What are the chances of Frank McFarlane being the DoF or at least getting a more senior role at the club? Also, could Rodolfo Berrell (spelling) be given the No. 2 spot for the new manager whoever he is? The club needs some continuity and these two guys know the club and how things are done. They could also help bring through all of our prospects from the acedemy and reserves. Liverpool need a consistant backroom that will stay there for years and managers to come. I know every new manager wants his own people but the club can't keep overhauling the management staff everytime the manager gets the chop.

Any chance both of them being given more senior roles?

Thanks, Mike in Leeds {Ed023's Note - I always thought if we're gonna go down the road of brining in a unproven manager like Martinez then why not stay at home and promote Borrell - he knows the club, he knows the youth coming though too}

Borrell would be great, if we are going for a young manager..

I would much rather have Rodolfo Borrell than Roberto Martinez. Shown himself to be great coach with the Academy and at Barca.

We need a proven manager to replace Kenny Dalglish. Klopp, Deschamps, Blanc, AVB, Bielsa and Van Gaal would be a few of the names on my shortlist

RedSG

 

 

17 May 2012 10:34:08
Kenny, on behalf of every LFC supporter and all the users of the Liverpool Rumours website we wish you all the best, and are sad to see you leave under these circumstances.

For whatever reason it just wasn't meant to be. You will always be the King of Anfield, and forever held in our highest affections. Nothing has changed with regards to the way we the fans idolise you.

You'll Never Walk Alone


Tommy Walsh

 

 

17 May 2012 10:32:35
'Suarez dreams of Spain switch' is the quote on ssn, apparently suarez has said he would love to play in spain, is this from the comment he made a while back or has he come out and repeated it do you know edds? im getting very worried now, we need the owners to pull a quality manager out of the bag asap to calm me down!

If you read this article, it was in an interview with Marca or AS, the Spanish sports papers. I guess he was asked 'would you like to come to Spain one day' and he replied, 'yes, one day'. You can see how this played out.

In the words of Blackadder, the media 'twists and turns like a twisty turney thing'!

Having said that, I wouldnt be surprised if LFC would rather sell him for a small profit now!

Red G

Oh be quiet.
Get a grip!

 

 

17 May 2012 10:29:39
I was thinking about the appointment of perhaps, AVB and at first I must say I was not pleased. He seemed tactically inept as well as stubborn @ Chelsea. But it does seem that FSG want a long term replacement and he may be a good bet as he will not have as much meddling from management @ LFC and it may be easier for him to get his playing philosophy over to the players.

All I really is that whomever is chosen will lead us forward.

Prelen

 

 

17 May 2012 10:27:35
Ray Houghton is a complete idiot, totally out of touch with modern football. He's still banging on about great days out for the fans being the be all and end all and doing well in the league not being that important. What would we really all prefer, doing well in the cups or the league? Think about this, how many of us really wouldn't swap the league cup for lets say second or third in the league? Second or third in the league would almost certainly guarantee that top players would join us and would therefore increase the chances of winning the cups. What would the chances be of Europe's elite player's joining a club that won the occasional league cup and finished eighth in the league? Pretty bloody slim if you ask me, also Houghton is banging on about Pep being the new manager.... What planet is this guy on? There is no way he would join us right now, Time for a lot of us to get real, the league IS the measure of a club and it's what we should be striving for, not winning the league cup. It wouldn't be good enough for Man Utd and it shouldn't be good enough for us either.

 

 

17 May 2012 10:26:24
The sooner Suarez leaves the better.

A great player but just has no self control.
Suarez selfish actions have forced the club into very uncomfortable positions and now in interview he "dreams" of playing in Spain.

Lets make his dream come true.

Please make our dreams come true, shut up!

 

 

17 May 2012 10:26:13
Hi Guys,

I can't believe that we are actually being linked with 'One good quarter of the season' Martinez. AVB would be a good move but he will need time which I feel FSG do not have a lot of.

Felt sorry for Kenny a true legend. Some of the players just did not work out.

PD

 

 

17 May 2012 10:24:41
Just a couple of questions for eds and macca. Who do you think will come first dof or manager? If its dof will he have a say in who becomes next manager? Also a thought but if klopp was to become next manager would that possibly improve chances of getting someone like goetz(spelling). Last but not least thank you kenny shame it didn't work out but you'll always be lfc legend!

 

 

17 May 2012 10:20:47
Great to hear that Mourinho has been approached, that explains why there are mixed rumours of Clarke leaving. Apparently he will bring Higuain as his marquee signing. Not totally happy with his style of play, but to state the obvious, the man gets results.

Big Jim

TSO will not manage us...other than the fact he has repeatedly stated in the past that he will not manage us...he will be trying to increase his 'legend' by winning Real their 10th Champions League title...

 

 

17 May 2012 10:20:41
what is it with all the bring back rafa post lets go one better and get souness evens and houllier in a triple management lets move forward long live king kenny a legend

 

 

17 May 2012 10:16:43
Cmon eds! The websites been down for hours, at such an important time lol
Technical issues? I hope not..
RedSox69 {Ed023's Note - We do sleep and have other things to do first.. All being taken care of now}

 

 

17 May 2012 10:14:20
am i the only one who wishes people would stop talking about guardiloa (spelling) he is a good manager not a great manager like some of you are suggesting he just had great players to make him look great. the only way to tell how good a manager he really is, is when he manages a team with average players and i for one would not have him
use our great club to find out how good he really is

I agree too. Barca are a very frustrating team to watch when they are not at their incisive best. They had no plan B against Chelski and the "tippy tappy pass it backwards and forwards stuff" is tedious to watch. Give me quick pass and move style any day, especially if there is a lethal striker to put the ball in the net at the end of it!
KJS

 

 

17 May 2012 10:14:12
Ppl need to give martinez more credit. Every wigan player we all deem nt good enuf for liverpool or say championship at best yet every year with everyone saying they will go down this year they stay up.
Bottem with man utd liverpool arsenal chelsea and newcastle to play they got no chance ? No martinez gets it right and they beat the lot! (Chelsea only game bt both thier goals were offside) they deserved to win them aswell!
He also has no funds and every year they lose thier best players!
Now i didnt want kenny to go and i aint sure bout who yo replace bt avb failed! And least martinez achieved goals! B rogers is workin well with martinez squad at swansea!
My point is give martinez some respect!

 

 

17 May 2012 10:13:53
No matter what you thought about kenny losing his job or not, I believe it could of been handled a lot better than it did. Our greatest ever player/servant/legend (arguably) deserves a lot better than a 6000 mile sacking trip. And the 24 hour period of has he/hasnt he in the press.
Not been impressed with the club this year, Suarez/evra was handled poor now this.
I believe the club would be in a lot worse shape without kennys involvement over the last 18 months, he united the players and fans and got us through a very difficult period. I don't believe many managers could of done much better.
We are now in a position to push on and we have kenny to thank for that.
Not all fans can see just what he did this time round but I can.

Klopp for me.

MIKEY

You know what, if the greatest living legend of our club is sacked for not finishing in top 4 in his FIRST full season, I really do fear for the new guy coming in.

He could do the cup treble but he'll still be sacked, if this logic is continued.

This is completely against our club's traditions and what this club stood for. Well I hope I am wrong, but I am still in deep shock.


VM YNWA

Well said Mikey
KJS

While we criticize FSG lets not forget that Kenny has to take the blame. Of course FSG should have been a bit respectful. But Kenny's stubborn attitude might be one reason behind it.

Klopp for me too

Bosco

The owners based their decision on the meeting, it wasn't a foregone conclusion so that is not legitimate information. However I do believe he should have been given more time. There were a lot of moments when we haven't pulled in the same direction which needs to start fresh and right now, as you say, let's move on and move up

NextGenRed

 

 

17 May 2012 10:12:36
HI everyone checked the lfc website and KK is know longer there which shows it has been updated but Steve Clarke is on there still as first team coach.

 

 

17 May 2012 10:11:17
Does anyone else feel that Fabio Capello would be the perfect choice for us?

1. He's familiar with many key members of our squad from his time as England coach. Gerrard, Johnson, Carroll, Henderson, Kelly etc etc

2. He has an impeccable CV winning a league title at EVERY club he has ever been at. The guy is a proven winner, much less of a gamble than some of the other names bundled about.

3. Stated his love for the English game and WANTS to manage an English club

4. Could spot a talent from a mile away and also be a big pulling point for potential signings (an area I feel the likes of Martinez would struggle in)

5. Will take the club in a new direction and would play some sublime football.

The only thing I can see against him is his age (65) which would be a turn off for the owners. We could easily squeeze 3 or 4 years from him no problem, by then Carragher will be right to take over ;)

Im clutching at straws now but doesn't anyone else feel it makes more sense with Cappello and is WAY less of a gamble?

He doesn't rate AC. Remember he commentated on his life style. Do we really need a demotivated £35 striker sat on the bench? No we need him on hte pitch scoring

(sob!) (sniff!) This... this is what you...(sniff!) get when you dismiss your club legend (sob!)...Singred

He is going to be Chelsea manager I hear

PieInTheSkyMan

Doesnt speak english!
Wants to stay in london
OLD
Did terrible for england
simply no

 

 

17 May 2012 10:04:01
With all this 'suarez being sold rumour' is it possible the owners told KK that they were going to sell Suarez to which KK refused and therefore they felt thay had to sack him..... just a thought wonder what peole think, I maybe well off the mark but it would fit in with what Macca has said about them havinbg no intention of getting rid of KK going into the meeting.

BLaw

 

 

17 May 2012 10:03:59
Please please please can we not take AVB a manager, I know we could do worse but to me that would not give us an improvement on this season. I could see us finishing 7th or 7th or 8th again...

 

 

17 May 2012 10:03:59
Thank you king kenny for all your hardwork, loyalty and dedication to our football team, you will always be number one, we will be very lucky to find a man of your qualities again.

G BOX

 

 

17 May 2012 10:03:00
TO :-

John Henry
Tom Werner
Mickey Mouse
Donald Duck
Walt Disney
All Americans with no knowledge of football

If you ever start off on a journey and dont know where you are going its 100% certain you will never get to where you want to go!

Money cant buy you love.

LFC may be just a plaything/hobby/investment opportunity to you,but to all of us fans it is part of our lives/love/every waking hour,our family.
Please dont disrespect the position you are in.Yes you have put your money in but we need people who understand and love the club.
You have the hearts and minds of hundreds of thousands of fans in your care,please do not screw it up.
Ensure you get this right,we dont want to be a club that spends more on severance packages for managers than it does on signing players.

In you we have to trust.
Kenny we will always love!
But whatever you do LFC will always be greater than any one man,player,manager or bloody investor,LFC will always be the greatest football family in the world,you lot are just passing through!

Derek

I think it's pretty obvious the FSG have a goal in mind: create a winning team, hat wins trophies other than the Carling Cup.

They are ruthless and take action precisely because they are goal-oriented.

This can be contrasted to two decades under people like Moores and Parry, who had no goal in mind, except living off the fat of the club, and who did nothing as the football world passed us by.

Wanting a legend to remains as manager when it manifestly is not working is the opposite of "knowing where you are going". It is maudlin sentimentalism.

 

 

17 May 2012 09:59:03
Lloyd Evans of Merthyr Tydfil Youth Team Coach to be announced as new LFC boss within the next three days. The american owners see this as a step in the right direction. Evans expects to bring in close friend, and Wrexham manager, Dean Saunders as his assistant. Evans has represented his Country most levels but failed to win a call up to the senior squad during his illustrious playing career.

Targets Include :-

Adam Johnson (man city)
Victor Moses (Wigan)
Harry Baber ( Wrexham U18)
Toni Kroos (Bayern Munich)

 

 

17 May 2012 09:58:58
Ed could u please tell me would the dof b appointed 1st or the manager or does it not matter witch order it happens thanks

Redman jft96 ynwa {Ed023's Note - Well all depends if the owners will look for advise on the new manager then the dof will be appointed first}

Appreciate the reply as always thanks

Redman jft96 ynwa

 

 

17 May 2012 09:56:05
DoF has to be appointed before the Manager, as they would expect to have a significant input in the selection process. It will also help persuede our primary targets to join, if a respected DoF is in place.

Expect announcement to be made in next 48 hours. Just an educated guess.

Red G

 

 

17 May 2012 09:52:14
I said ages ago that if a new manager comes in transfers will change and that no one will have a clue untill a manager was named who will come in and to some degree leave.ed2 at the time replied that the transfer targets won't change well looks like they have!

Alfiedean

 

 

17 May 2012 09:51:22
Eds, How long do you think it will take to appoint a new manager? :) {Ed023's Note - Impossible for me to answer. When the owners feel the right be is got then they will appoint}

 

 

17 May 2012 09:46:36
Avb favourite for the Liverpool job? Seriously? A man who took a team that were in the top 4 last season out of it this season? A man who alienated half the team. Maybe before Henry actually employs some other manager he should sent them out a memo of what is expected. Top 4 spot only, screw the domestic cups, they wont save your job son. No 2,3 or 5 year pkans here mate. Get the CL money in!

The Irish Rover

Hah, agreed with every word. Trophies don't matter at Liverpool unless its PL and CL. FSG might as well have us withdraw from domestic cups.


VM YNWA

 

 

17 May 2012 09:24:52
Hey Eds,
Could you please clarify whether Clarke has gone or is he still at the club.

Some reports saying that he is still at the club, but just been listening to TalkSport and they said that he has resigned.

Badge {Ed023's Note - He's still there until further notice}

He has tendered his resignation (which has been accepted) but remains in post until a new management team is in place. Sort of continuity.

 

 

17 May 2012 09:45:35
ed can you explain this for me ??
avb sacked from chelsea lost the respect of his players and did not understand the english game.
roberto martinez has done well to keep them up but not proven at the highest level and will struggle to attract big players??
jurgen klopp not prooven in the english league a complete gamble. these are the people touted for the kings chair why has there not been a mention of o'neill who has great respect by players and has been excellent at every club he has been with .??
surely we need a big manager to turn things around {Ed023's Note - O Neill isn't a good manager. His style of football is terrible and his squad & wage control on players isn't great either}

Martin o'neill would be our best manager {Ed001's Note - O'Neill is an abysmal manager.}

 

 

17 May 2012 09:42:43
Regards the managers appointment there a few common sense options for the club. Benitez, AVB, Capello and even though he's taking a break Guardiola are available and would not require any compensation to another club which I'm sure will appeal to the board.
The next level is young, talented premiership managers like Brendan Rodgers & Martinez, both have a bright futures ahead but is appointing one of these 2 a risky move for LFC after sacking Kenny.
After that its any top class manager in Europe, Mourinho, Deschamps, etc but with these guys its big money, wages, player investment and compensation, it would be a fantastic statement of intent by the board but unlikely.
As far a signings go its nice to speculate as this is a (great) rumours site but 99% of previous targets will be forgotten and there certainly won't be any "done deals!" at least until the new man is appointed.
Personally I would of kept Kenny, he is a legend, 8th isn't great but 2 cup finals is a fantastic start to a managerial career. But looking at the list I feel AVB could be our man, young, talented and will want to prove a point to the rest of the premiership. Lets see....

Kenny is still the King. YNWA.

 

 

17 May 2012 09:38:39
Just a couple of questions for eds and macca. Who do you think will come first dof or manager? If its dof will he have a say in who becomes next manager? Also a thought but if klopp was to become next manager would that possibly improve chances of getting someone like goetz(spelling). Last but not least thank you kenny shame it didn't work out but you'll always be lfc legend!

 

 

17 May 2012 09:36:12
Steve Clarke still at anfield, his name is still on the website as first team coach while kenny's has been taken off....
We really must hold on to him and look forward to AVB coming in...
Why else would Clarke go to the red sox game with the owners when kenny was on the plane back to uk
Liverbird09

Yeah, going to the baseball game seemed strange to me, too. Kind of awkward. Painful, even, if you consider how hard it has been to watch the Red Sox for the first part of the season.

JB

 

 

17 May 2012 09:34:45
Just like half of fans wanted Kenny out, half of fans will probably appose the new manager.

We have to have faith that the owners have the best interest of the club at the forefront of all decisions made.

Surely having owners that are determined to win, must be a good thing.

Love Kenny, always will.

But the decision has been made, let's move on give the new manager a chance (whomever it may be), hopefully give him some money to spend.

The owners are certainly taking care of business (it's like the end of the Godfather - all loose ends being tied up) I'm hopeful we will come out stronger in the long run.

YNWA

Kez

 

 

17 May 2012 09:31:43
RAFA RAFA RAFA !!!

 

 

17 May 2012 09:29:49
Eds or Macca,

Any news on David Dein's potential involvment in the management structure at LFC?

Cheers

J

 

 

17 May 2012 09:28:00
FAO macca... how confidant are you about klopp, is it worth having a punt in the bookies... he will be big odds..

He says it was an educated guess but maccas guessed tend to be quite accurate I'd go for it

 

 

17 May 2012 09:21:38
I thought it was obvious Kenny would go if he didn't win the FA cup. No matter what people say winning just the carling cup is no where good enough.

Something massive must have happened in boston because kenny came out and said "... i wouldn't swap the carling cup for anything else" this leads me to believe priorities, short term goals and success criteria of the owners and kenny were very different.

Was listening to talks**te this morning and they said AVB has been spoken to over the past fortnight and he has already started trips to south america on scouting missions.

Now he could just be on holiday!

I wanna know how much the ed's or macca know about AVB appointment and his trip to s.america.

Cheers big ears!

 

 

17 May 2012 09:21:15
Good Morning Eds, Right then just a quick opinion of my own and you may shoot me down if you like. Yesterdays events may have been hard to take for some and others may believe it was the right call. What i think though regardless of your views it was time LFC started to take decisive action. This club is starting to live in yesteryear to much and we need to catch up big time. A global brand we may be, but competitive with the top teams we are not. If we get left behind much more we gonna need a time machine to catch up not just a new manager. Just hope and pray whoever is to come in it works out. This could be one of the most important decisions for any Liverpool board since we were established.

Mike

 

 

17 May 2012 09:20:19
Eds? who do you want as manager? My personal preference would be Jurgen Klopp of Borrusia Dortmund {Ed023's Note - Same here}

 

 

17 May 2012 09:18:29
Morning, had to do this before i go to work as i cant settle with it all the same as many many of our loyal fans..........

Dear Mr Henry,
We hear all the time how you get what you want with everything your involved in i.e winning things and boosting public image etc etc, weve heard how you relish a challenge and want to be top of the tree in most things you get involved in so please for the first real time since you joined show us you mean business,

Dont get us a man recommended by Mr Ayre who clearly dosnt have a clue, Dont get us someone who needs a year or two to adjust when weve already fallen behind, show us what youve got and find us a big name,
Ive just had talksport on, which as we all know are anti LFC at the best of times, theyve had the cheek to be stating we can forget the Guardiolas and the Mourhinos of this world because were setting our sights too high.......so if Fergie retired tomorrow would it be setting their sights too high also?........WE are a big club whether the bitters next door or the mancs like it or not, WE are the consistent winners of European trophies in this country, WE are also still a big pull for a massive manager champions league or not, the kudos to be gained from getting us back where we belong for a new manager is huge and cant be underestimated,

We need some guidance through these rough waters right now Mr Henry as the ships seems to have flown into the top 6 distance and left us with a life raft and a paddle and its just not good enough,

To put it blunt and make it clear, Get us the right man to show the footballing world and the anti LFC brigade we mean business and to get this show back on the road, open that enormous cheque book and get us some real quality to go hand in hand with it, and if you cant and if you wont do as you promised to help our precious club then im afraid Walking alone is what youll be doing, sad as it may be.

This is a real low point for LFC fans and we need a massive pick me up, Show us you mean business and we'll be putty in your hands.

The Guv 81-9 YNWA JFT96

The irony of your comment is that FSG hired Kenny in the first place partly to appease the fans.

I suspect they are actually a lot more ambitious than many fans, judging by the hand-wringing over Kenny. So in that regard, I am not worried.

 

 

17 May 2012 09:17:18
Well, I am saddened that Dalglish is gone. I believe that he should of got another season. Sentimental? Not sure. There are plenty of players that take a season to settle in a new club. Take Henderson, he's been really good in the U21s and I am confident he will come good. The other consideration for me, is the style of football. We have played some nice football. Even though we lost to Arsenal we completely outplayed them at Anfield. The passing and movement have been great at times.

Lady luck went AWOL this season (apart from Carling cup final). I still can't believe how many times we hit the woodwork and how unlucky Carroll was in the FA cup final. It's a results game, so I guess that doesn't matter? Well, it does matter to me. I am gutted, I wonder where we would be if we had won 5 more of those home games and won the FA cup. Would Kenny still have a job? The Suarez thing wasn't great, but the Evra is no angel in that incident. It ended up as a media witch hunt in the end. Suarez was daft to not shake his hand when he said he would. It's fine for Chelsea and QPR to not shake hands?

What concerns me now is what happens to the new mgt team this time next year if we don't meet the expectations of FSG? In reality, to build long term success, you need to lay some foundations, which is probably going to take more than 12 months. Not sure I like the idea (due to the style of footy), but the only one who can possibly come in and meet FSG's expectations in a short period of time is Rafa.

I truly believe that Dalglish would of got them competing next season, then again, maybe I am a sentimental fool.

Anyway, I hope Dalglish is OK and I wish the best of luck to the new incumbent, of what just might become a poison chalice.

 

 

17 May 2012 09:14:12
Hi Eds, i have posted a few times regarding Benitez coming back.
However my source who works for the club at youth level told me last night that Cruyff and Koeman have been discussed.
Personally i would prefer Rafa back.
what u reckon Ed?

Robkop {Ed023's Note - I wouldn't have Rafa back in a million years sorry. I don't know if any likely or unlikely candidates as of now}

 

 

17 May 2012 09:13:43
Good Morning Ed's & Reds.
Just wondered if you could explain why bookies 'suspend' betting? I'm not a betting type (I have only been in a bookies twice in my life). So I am not really familiar with the protocols that bookies follow.

I thought I would pose the question on this forum as it may explain to other fans.

Thanks in advance - Matty p {Ed023's Note - Could mean a few things. Bookies might of getting wind that for arguments sake Klopp was approached so suspended to either shorten his price or wait until further notice to open the market again}

 

 

17 May 2012 09:12:04
AVB Why will he get respect off our players,and get it right this time??

 

 

17 May 2012 09:11:30
Are we struggling to get a manager because were not a top 4 club anymore.managers like Bradley,rafa,Martinez not good enough.to compete we need good manager hidinnik,rijkard any one agree?(excuse spelling)

 

 

17 May 2012 09:06:09
Think about it lads, it's not going to be Rafa, FSG would be naïve to appoint another former manager. It's going to be Andre Villas-Boas all day long, young, plays positive attacking football on the ground and most importantly to our owners, favours youth and likes to make things happen, as good as a manager Martinez is, do you really think he's the man to take us forward? I'd say as good as he is, he isn't quite ready for a huge job yet, I'd say he needs to make his way up, needs to take over at like Aston Villa or something before a top job. The owners were going to appoint AVB last summer anyway, just Kenny did such a good job and were they really going to risk a fan backlash so early into their reign as owners? Cheers Ed

 

 

17 May 2012 09:04:39
I can see why Klopp would be the perfect option.

A) He's young
B) He's made numerous cheap signings that have turned out to be world class.
C) Brings up youth players

AVB also ticks these boxes, although I'd argue that Klopp has more experience in top tier football.

 

 

17 May 2012 08:59:45
Well if it is Villas Boas lets hope he can do a bit of a Clough, Leeds - Chelsea... Forest - Liverpool, its quite clear the players didnt like him but thats becoz there all older or similar aged. Liverpool show respect!

Muller

 

 

17 May 2012 08:58:24
Honestly, how realistic is an approach for Jose?
He is narcissistic enough to believe he could win us the league and he would be a god if he did. The owners have stated we have the money to challenge anyone. What a notch on his belt. More realistic to me than Pep, saying that we will end up with johnny King

FowlerisGod

 

 

17 May 2012 08:57:50
Big reports in Spain say Luiz Suarez is on way to barca in a swop deal for Sanchez {Ed023's Note - Sanchez going nowhere}

 

 

17 May 2012 08:44:08
Please not avb. Look at what he did to the Chelsea team. Split them in 2 and couldn't make them play with established players and all the money in the world. I'm hoping for klopp. Is there a chance ed's? {Ed023's Note - Always a chance until someone is appointed}

 

 

17 May 2012 07:28:58
Eds please can you explain how Stewart Downing has made the England Squad, and Adam Johnson is in rserve? I cant think of a single liverpool fan who would rather have downing on the wing... I give Hodgson 2 years max, just about enough time for the media love fest to ware off.. El Pistolero {Ed023's Note - He works hard and covers the ground and is tactically sound on the pitch.}

He also played 5 qualifiers with 2 assists and was best player on the pitch in the friendly vs Spain. As Roy said himself the players who got England to the finals deserve chance to play in them.

 

 

17 May 2012 08:55:24
I think the decision to terminate KK's contract was more of a political reason than a footballing decision, with our league form a good excuse to give without actually wanting to give the real reason. I fully expect Suarez to also leave this summer too. Although he is a very good player, he could inflict more damage to the LFC brand than he already has.

As for the replacement, I would love to see Jurgen Klopp get the job. Success on a limited budget, excellent at working with young players, charismatic and enthusiastic, yet at the same time, sensible. However, would he want the job? If I was him, I wouldn't go anywhere near LFC.

Rafa's Purple Goatie

 

 

17 May 2012 08:52:47
Strike Capello from the list of possibles - have heard he's going to be Chelsea boss next season.

PieInTheSkyMan

 

 

17 May 2012 08:51:49
Only a manager who has won thier league, had success or better won a european trophy and plays free flowing attacking football would do for me. FSG statement claims they want someone for atleast 4-5 years which means the prospective manager must be under 55 (assumption)
Possible shortlist:
Marcelo Bielsa-Age 56
League winner with Newells Old Boys and Europa winner with Bilbao
Quique Flores-Age 47
League winner with Real Madrid and Benfica. Europa and Super cup winner with Athletico Madrid.
Michael Laudrup-Age 47
League winner with Brondby (danish) + several cups
Didier Deschamps-Age 43
Champions League runner up with Monaco
League winner with Marsielle + several cups
WILD CARDS:
AVB- Age 34
League, 2 cups and Europa winner with Porto
Former understudy to Mourinho.
Roberto Martinez-Age 38
League One winner with Swansea
Attacking football, young with vision.

My choice:
Bielsa or Deschamps
Wild card:
AVB-if the players can respect him then a dynasty could be built..

Anyone else? Views appreciated..
RedSox69

Biesla hasnt won the Europa

Jurgen klopp

 

 

17 May 2012 08:51:27
I'm one of the ones who felt That kenny couldn't take us further on footballing reasons and had to go. But i am deeply upset at the way he was sacked. To send him all the way to USA and then come back straight away with your tail between your legs is no way for a guy that has given everything for the club to be treated. He deserved better then that. Shame on you Fenway. MrT

You have no idea what happened in the meeting, or who instigated the meeting.

 

 

17 May 2012 08:50:58
Avb to be manager with big funds to buy hulk falcon and William

Agreed, William to sign along with Jessie J, Tom Jones and Danny from The Script.

 

 

17 May 2012 08:47:56
When Andre villas boas left Chelsea they were in fifth place, still in the FA cup, and in the latter stages of the champions league with all to play for in all competitions.

For a 34 year old manager with his whole career in front of him I don't think that sounds too shabby.

Let's face it, not many managers could handle all the huge ego's at chelsea. They are playing better now because robbie di Matteo is friends with most of those ego's.

If the rumours about AVB are true, without spending millions in compensation to a team for stealing they're manager. Let's get him, and spend that money on a new players of his liking.

Anyone agree?

Tom in wolves

 

 

17 May 2012 08:47:05
FSG had no choice but to sack Kenny.How can you possibly say that you wouldnt swap the lge cup for anything.I would sack him on that statement alone.

 

 

17 May 2012 08:45:22
craig gordon been released by sunderland, i believe,
would be decent backup if he stayed fit

 

 

17 May 2012 08:43:21
Hi Eds,
any chance of Frank DE BOER becoming our next manager?
He has done a great job at Ajax and could be a decent option in my opinion.

Cheers.

 

 

17 May 2012 08:43:06
Mourinho or avb for me ! Great work ed's btw ...i wish these rafa rumours would go away ...he sold Alonso and brought aqualani wtf good manager ?? I personally think not !! He won cl with houllier's team ......if we don't have a manager in mind then I think this was a very bad (unlikely) business decision by fsg you never create a problem without a solution in business ...if they have then its a bad season for us .......keep up the good work lads

EXACTLY!..... He won the champions league with Houlliers team. Could anyone else have done that?! He may not be my first choice personally (Klopp, Laudrup or AVB for me), but Rafa would have his merits!

Red G

I'm no big rafa fan but people go on about how he handled Alonso well yes imo he handled it bad but alonso had a good first season then wasn't as good in-between then when going had a great last season and when people say it was houlliers team well houllier didn't didn't get there it was rafa,his tactics and so on and people forget how he won the Spanish league,plus do people remember when we played Valencia in a friendly and other games they played us off the park,if rafa was backed with money like the king we wouldn't of finished
eighth the main problem I have with rafa is when he plays players out of position people wouldn't be surprised if our striker played in goal and so on,the managers I would look at are the following
1.M laudrup
2. De boer
3.Rafa
4.can't pronounce it Ath Madrid manager
5.The special one ( but would rip the club apart)
Cheers pk

 

 

17 May 2012 08:37:00
Wow! I'm absolutely gutted! I was on my way to work this morning when I heard Dalglish was sacked. I can't help but think about, what could have been. We played nearly every team off the park this season! The football for the majority has been awesome to watch, and I think it was pretty obvious that we were on the right path to the top. Now, yes... I know we didn't get the results in the league, but we have been so unlucky! I truly believe that we are a DM, RW and a striker that can actually hit the back of the net, away from glory. Without Lucas, we have no appropriate cover! It really saddens me to know that I've seen Kenny manage for the last time. He is an absolute role model for the club, and not since Shankly or Paisley have we ever felt like a family again. The man brought us all together again, and picked up the club when we were in tatters. How does that not warrant another season, in itself? Kenny loves the club and he is as much of a supporter of the club as any of us, if not more and I doubt that if he truly didn't believe he could take us back to the top, he would continue. He would want what is best for the club. As glad as I am to have had the privilege of witnessing Dalglish manage Liverpool, I'm embarrassed by the way people on here would constantly slag him off on here. The man deserves a lot more than that! I'm sorry, but I just can't get my head around this. I think this move is a bit of a knee jerk reaction from the owners and makes me truly wonder if we are going to be in safe hands, with yanks, people that don't follow football, nor are they supporters of the club. I don't see how this benefits us in any way whatsoever. I'm probably not making much sense, but I'll end this, by saying a big thankyou to Kenny Dalglish, the man tried, and put his reputation on the line, and you could see that the job was taking its toll, but I wish him good luck.

asdfghjkl

Totally agree with your post
ND

 

 

17 May 2012 08:34:58
I want avb :D And him to bring hulk with him :D

 

 

17 May 2012 08:33:41
Klopps twitter account has been suspended. Eds you rekon that this might mean something? {Ed023's Note - Don't know}

Fake person maybe?

 

 

17 May 2012 08:33:00
By Sacking Kenny - FSG/Henry has lost any credibility they had with the local Fans and more fans around the world. The fans will not accept failure from any other manager if this is the way Kenny was treated. Forget a few idiots - the post-istanbul rafa brigade who were clueless about Kenny's stature at LFC - everyone else, from past players, journalists, pundits etc wanted Kenny to finish off his project. They all argued that despite the results not being good in the EPL, the performances were mostly top-class. The games against Chelsea, Man City, Man U, Arsenal, Everton and more were outstanding. Yes it was an on-going project and with a clinical striker the results could have been very different. All bar a few idiots wanted to give Kenny another year to prove himself. His loyalty and sacrifices to the club and its fans had earned him that.

But the yanks - both H&G and FSG have failed to understand that LFC is more than just a football club. Winning is important, of course it is, but the way the club handles its affairs and treats its fans is in many ways a lot more important at LFC then ALL other clubs bar maybe Barca. As I have said elsewhere - Yanks will come and go, managers will come and go as will players - but the name of Kenneth Dalglish will forever ring out loud and proud with passion at Anfield. Yanks can sack the man and drive him away from Anfield but they cannot sack the LEGEND that is Kenny Dalglish.

Yes of course the new manager - whoever he maybe, will have the supporters behind him, if he acts out of respect for the FANS. But he better get used to the name Dalglish ringing out from the KOP in most games. The aura of King Kenny is going to be all around Anfield. However, I cannot see HOW the owners FSG (Henry/Werner) are ever going to win over the fans. They could turn us in to the most successful club in the world and the fans will still not forgive them for the manner they have treated Kenny.

But it is done. Kenny has too much self-respect and pride to dwell on the matter. He will not speak publicly about it. Reports of Kenny rejecting severance packages from FSG are true of the man. It is rumoured that Kenny said use those millions to invest in players for the team. Thats why he is a LEGEND.

When the new manager is appointed - LETS ALL GET BEHIND HIM. Not for any other reason except that we want it for the club we love. Do it for the players who have stood loyal to the club - the likes of Carra, Gerrard and others who are now coming to the end of their careers. Kenny will be the first to say - no man is bigger than the club. Yes Kenny's stature could be used to argue against that statement - but it is true. Kenny would not want it.

LFC Forever. King Kenny. Long Live the King. YNWA
Furqan.

You use Barca in your comment. You should know that Beguiristain and Guardiola have left Barca partly because they despise the board. Like Real, it is a club riven by politics.

To some extent, you are living in a dream world. That's fine - as fans that is our prerogative. We don't have to make the hard decisions required to create a winning club.

 

 

17 May 2012 08:30:21
According to the BBC, AVB has been spoken to but will not get the job. Rafa is not in the running. Personally, if Pardew came with a few of the Newcastle players (Cisse, Ben Arfa, Cabaye) I would be happy. Whoever it is the have an alleged kitty of £30m to spend.
YNWA

"over £30m" is what's written

 

 

17 May 2012 08:27:57
Any views on carra as player manager? Loves the club and having played in the current team would Know where to spend the budget!

What a completely idiotic idea. Carragher as player manager? You have got to be kidding right? I love the club too, why cant I be player manager? Why? Cos its completley idiotic idea, that why!

Steve

I never want any former player to manage the club. It may be the Liverpool Way, but it is outdated.
Indian Buzzer

 

 

17 May 2012 08:26:02
just been looking at some american sports news centre and they said - what about a young american manager like cobi jones

that would be ridiculas

 

 

17 May 2012 08:13:50
INNEVITABLE. LFC NEED TO MAKE A STATEMENT OF INTENT. THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS TO GO FOR PEP GUARDIOLA. HE WILL NOT TURN THE JOB DOWN. HOW COULD ANYONE? I DONT'T WANT MARTINEZ, RODGERS, LAMBERT OR ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PREM. ONLY PEP WILL DO.

For starters, turn off your CAPS LOCK, secondly Pep is taking a year off from football.

Steve

 

 

17 May 2012 08:22:01
darren ferguson has just handed in his resignation with petereborough and is secretly been rushed up in a limo with blacked out windows expect him to be unveiled later this afternoon lol

 

 

17 May 2012 08:22:01
Morning Eds
Did Steve Clarke work with AVB and Chelsea for Jose? Could the new owners be looking to get them working together again?

RedDan

Not a snowballs chance in hell

 

 

17 May 2012 08:16:02
totally ashamed to call myself a liverpool fan today, hope all those calling for kennys head are happy now. look at some of the managers being linked to the job Rodgers, Lambert, Martinez not fit to lace Kennys boots, he should have had another season at least. lets hope for all our sakes they have a world class manager lined up because if they appoint any of the 3 mentioned above we will be a laughing stock of the football world.

Long live the King

Totally agree wid u on this, we were widout trophy for 6 yrs and the king comes and gives us one and also a final apperance and he is sacked, it would have been good to give him a year more, long live the king

Sure....classic jumping into the deep without looking first ...in the end, you always get what you deserve or asked for ;-)....ra1969

Yes thanks, im pretty bloody stoked kenny is no longer in charge! Thanks for asking!

Steve

 

 

17 May 2012 08:15:38
J.Klopp, J.Low, F.Capello, L.Van gal, U.Emre , R.BENITEZ, F.RIJKAARD.

r-r

 

 

17 May 2012 08:09:36
Please no AVB. For me it would have to be (one of)
Rafa
Ancellotti
Klopp
Capello
Oniel

In that order.

Id sound out mourhinho to see if he wants a challenge in a year or two.you never know.

Realistically it's got to be Rafa?
Martinez hasn't done enough and AVB was poor at Chelsea.

Gazman

So you wanted Kenny sacked for not finishing in the top four but would take Rafa back who in his last season finished outside the top four? Double standards?

JRG

NO WAY IN HELL RAFA!! God i am sick to death of this welcome back Rafa crap. Please just please shut up about the man who is useless without Pako, and buys mediocre players to then put them on ridiculous wages. As ed001 said, N'gog was on more money than Suarez is. Thats stupid!! He would once again finacially ruin the club.
KiwiRed

 

 

17 May 2012 08:08:10
Kenny dalglish should be proud of himself, When the club had no one to turn to he dropped everything and came calling. I just wish it had of turned out the way you would have wanted it to.YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE.


gee man

 

 

17 May 2012 08:08:03
Moneywise this must be kinda good in a way that they new manager and Dof will probably get more money than KK would have gotten this summer? I mean more of a starting pot to build on.

What do you think Ed's? {Ed023's Note - All depends if the new man can spend the money wisely}

 

 

17 May 2012 08:01:52
Martinez! Martinez! Martinez! I'm sick of hearing his name linked with us. Do I have to kill him in order for the media to stop linking him with us? What are the odds Eds? Is there any serious approach from us? I really do hope not! He's hundreds of steps backwards to KK.

 

 

17 May 2012 07:54:27
AVB is a decent manager but wasn't given the chance by Chelsea. His remit was to change the style of play & reduce player age at the club. Senior players didn't like this & didn't put in the effort, so when RdM was given the role he kept everybody happy by playing the old guard.
He wouldn't be my choice but at the same time I would get behind whoever is manager.

Gav the Red

 

 

17 May 2012 07:52:19
Hi ed's/ macca I know this might be too soon but when do you think we will appoint the new manager because surely it must be in this month so he can identify his targets and scout them at the euro's or something

Cheers

Greg {Ed023's Note - The owners will appoint their man when time allows, they won't rush until the right man is brought in}

 

 

17 May 2012 07:40:20
Just read this public outcry over kenny going. Sorry kenny much love for you and all you've done at the club, but 6 wins at anfield isn't good enough. We need a transformation not a ticker.

We can't compete with the spending of City, United, Spurs and Chelsea.

We are battling with teams for 4th at the moment. We need to grow our own, talent from within. Rafa had the right idea and tackled it from both angles.

Get behind FSG. The King is dead, long live the King.

Y.N.W.A

 

 

17 May 2012 07:37:59
i have no source however im 100% certain it's AVB,

cheers matt

 

 

17 May 2012 07:37:14
got to work and people are saying its a 2 man race for the lfc job between AVB and martinez

I hope you don't work at FSG mate

LIVERPRES

 

 

17 May 2012 07:33:19
I think were all in agreement that we dont really think lambert/martinez and rodgers have enough experience to manage our club even though they are doing good jobs.

Not really keen on AVB tatically inept struggled with big egos and there are a few at liver

Klopp would be good but if he didnt want the chelsea job why would he want liverpool? currently it would be a step down for him so seems unlikely

Loius van Gaal too old for the owners

Rafa - Unlikely would create more unhappy fans personally id quite like to see him back.

Biesla - Seems unlikely he would want to come but slim chance

Martin Laudrup fits the bill

 

 

17 May 2012 07:31:46
Van gaal has told a Dutch jurno he wants the Liverpool job

Source? Which journo?

 

 

17 May 2012 07:30:54
I really respect the owners, ruthless to get results, yet so respectful in the sacking of kenny. Major shake up and reliable sources say "Identifying high profile managers" and they will probably be given a fair amount of money to spend. FSG getting us back on track.

To be fair I wouldn't mind AVB, would be able to attract big names, didn't he bring mata to Chelsea and got rid of all deadwood. He would be welcomed much more at Liverpool as no big ego's such as Lampard and Terry. I just hope the man in charge is high profile, with no disrespect to Lambert, Martinez etc

He also signed meireless

The RLD ECHO

JEFF :)

 

 

17 May 2012 07:28:37
Any word on who will be are next manager ? YNWA 96

 

 

17 May 2012 07:07:12
With kagawa admitting speaking to fergie, and saying that he wants to listen to all offers, could it be because he heard klopp is coming to lfc?

Deni-do

 

 

17 May 2012 07:05:19
The papers are reporting that the owners are going to provide a £30M transfer kitty. We are not going to attract a big name manager with those sort of funds. These Americans are no better than the last two cowboys. They've spent close to £130M on new players and sold close to £90M worth of players, saving £30M on wages which is a very small investment. No sign of a new stadium and no one left at Director level - What a mess, i fear we're turning into a hiring and firing club which will never give us any long term stability. The appointment of the new manager is critical and I think it will turn in to Hodgson time again if we go for Martinez

.....it just looks like they are actually still learning the game....first the hiring and firing of a mid-table coach (Hodgson), then the hiring and firing of a power hungry smooth operator (Commolli)...and then the hiring and firing of a club legend (Dalglish) who should have been asked to manage from an office rather than sort out the nuts and bolts on the field....it also looks like it will take them a while yet to really grasp the game and all that surrounds it. The economics are important, but not everything is economics...I hope they place as much stress on a new stadium as they are on a manager and DOF for the next 4-5 years... ra1969

 

 

17 May 2012 06:56:23
What's this? What the hell is this? All this talk of money and the next man to lead LFC.

I leave that for later, but for now, I say thank you Kenny, thank you for all the momories.

Sorry for my bad english

 

 

17 May 2012 06:30:27
Hui macca i appreciate what you are doing. You're doing a great thing for us, the fans. I just want to ask you sth. you wrote that they get rid of kenny because you think that theor no.1 target might be available. and also you said allegri and klopp are thier tagets. doe it mean allegri is the one to be manager. in case of klopp i believe klopp won't leave soon. also allegri said a while ago he was learing english. eds what do you say about this?

Superfan

 

 

17 May 2012 06:06:56
I don't understand why Klopp or Maureen would come to us being so successful at their respective clubs? Don't see the owners taking a punt on An unproven Chelsea reject either. A manager who can't speak English well is pretty unlikely too and Guardiola makes very little sense for his career. With this in mind....who is the likely candidate?
Nicol? Deschamps? Rikjaard?

cozinoz

I agree cozinoz. This is why I don't agree with the sacking, theres no one available who could do a better job than Kenny. So why sack him? Im just bewildered.
KiwiRed

I think it may well be AVB, though i wud personally go for Laudrup, but he does not seem to be in the reckoning. No former liverpool player though, too much sentiment involved which is poison for the club.
Indian Buzzer

 

 

17 May 2012 06:00:07
So the kenny has gone and its the rite thing imo.

The biggest things for me where the signings.

Carroll still young time to improve.
Henderson same as above.
Adam is 26ish and he's had 1 good season in his career, didst need him.
Downing is 28ish and crap. No time to improve with no resale value.

I don't see how people know we won't have a big transfer kitty.
FSG have gave the club over 100 mil to spend , yes we have recovered a lot but they still gave it kenny to spend.

Man u , man c , arsenal and chelsea will all spend big thus summer and FSG will know this. I'm not saying we will match these clubs but I still think they will give the new manager enough to try and compete.

At the end of last season we where going backwards not improving which we should have been.

I don't want rafa back he was the reason we didnt win the league a couple of years back , because he wouldn't swallow his pride and play Robbie keane.

AVB I seem to remember was the man on everyone's lips last season.

What happens next I don't know but I'm sure FSG have thought this through.

To make the club a success we need CL football and the owners know this.

LAVERS

 

 

17 May 2012 05:39:44
Welcome to LFC.....AVB

 

 

17 May 2012 05:28:19
It's official my source is 90% certain that FSG are not pursuing Rafael Benitez or Martinez.Jurgen Klopp wasn't considered and neither was Jose Mourinho or Pep Guardiola.

AVB will be the new Liverpool manager and it will be announced by Monday.

Also Luis Suarez is going to stay for at least another season depending on the outcome of next season according to my source.

FSG are going to invest immensely for instant success next season expect several new signings from AVB.

Regards,
Daniel Hanwell

 

 

17 May 2012 05:15:35
With KK gone, are the previous expected departures (maxi, dirkalicious etc) still looking to go ahead?

 

 

17 May 2012 04:23:40
¢ Please post this ¢
It speaks volumes of a man to take the management positions in the state LFC was. Few men have the wisdom to be handed a bag of Man Utd and use it to grow flowers.
On behalf of all Liverpool fc fans world wide I would like to thank a man who truly bleeds red.
Mr Kenny Dalglish...Thank you.

 

 

17 May 2012 04:09:24
People keep saying bring back Rafa do you think a second bite of the cherry will be any easier on him . It didn't do Kenny any Favors An thatz a facted

 

 

17 May 2012 03:47:13
AVB now favourite at 2/1 on sky betting

 

 

17 May 2012 03:40:21
Any chance of Louis Van Gaal? Gutted at the way FSG handled the King though .... Keep your heads high YNWA

 

 

17 May 2012 03:38:44
Some shocking surprises in the making at LFC with Mourinho coming in as manager and Xabi Alonso coming home.

Nonsense.

Now where did you get this from

He just made it up but its a nice thought . forget avb . he would be a joke

 

 

17 May 2012 03:37:21
It will be very difficult to attract top talent to LFC at the moment.
I think we all need to lower our expectations for the short term, and see how things develop.
Most importantly is to try to hang on to our 'star' players who I imagine are very anxious.
Right now there's 'blood in the water' and the sharks will be circling LFC!.
I applaud the bold decisions taken, I just hope they turn out to be 'the right ones'!.
Nervous about the future of LFC.

Didnt seem to do Newcastle any harm lowering their expectations after big names went they seem to be doing just fine in fact they are where we should be after taking said players yet they just did some homework and bought better players.

Red tinted glasses

 

 

17 May 2012 03:25:13
Dear King Kenny, thank you for everything,the memories, the highs and lows, the heart, the effort, the belief, the personification of all that I love about LFC.
You will always be my absolute Hero!.
Love and best wishes, Shankly's Red Army.

 

 

17 May 2012 03:20:06
I am greatly saddened by the 'sacking' of KK.
I wish the King all the very best.

It does leave me feeling rather concerned about the future of LFC.
The owners are showing a ruthlessness that is most perplexing, a win at any cost attitude (I do understand it), but it doed not mean I like it.

In sacking KK, FSG have removed a part of LFC's soul, its heart, and left only a grey lifeless 'blob' behind.
In truth, today LFC lost more than just a legend, but a part of itself.
I don't think I will ever feel quite the same about the club!.
Nuff said.

 

 

17 May 2012 03:09:30
to those who think AVB failed miserably at chelsea lets look at this.

he left on the 4th march
he was in charge for 27 games
W 13, D 7, L 7....points = 46, position 5th, 3 points off 4th

Dalglish's record (27 games)
W 10, D 9, L 8....points = 39, position 7th, 11 points off 4th

Whats my point? if AVB failed at Chelsea yet got better results than Dalglish then FSG showed mercy on Dalglish. your getting upset that got fired which means Dalglish has WON in fooling you.

P.S. i like how DC left through mutual consent and dalglish got sacked. get in FSG. no one person is bigger than the club and you have put into practice what fans preach when talking ("B! CH!NG") about Suarez. {Ed023's Note - To be fair, the foundations are Chelsea were built for AVB - all he had to do was add a few faces.. Kenny took over a rock bottom Liverpool. Silly comparison}

How can we be 7 points behind Chelsea, and theyre only 3 behind 4th.....yet somehow we are 11 behind 4th? I make it 10 and I think your math is a little wrong there mate. Plus ed023 makes a great point.
KiwiRed {Ed023's Note - Thanks mate. The OP is referring to the points comparison when AVB was sacked}

 

 

17 May 2012 03:06:26
Hi ED's with AVB getting a lot of no ways,by reds fans, did he even buy any targets he really wanted, or was he just given instructions by roman ro get rid of old, and still win! All di-matteo has done is play the old boys brigade, and playing the others in less important games lookig like he is gluing the team singlr handedly, for f*cks sake he was the assistant! What was he doing or saying! Sharpening the knife he stabbed him in his back! Really hope bayern embarass them, even if it means liverpool have to start early qualifying rounds in europa league! If suarez goes! Looks like he will by all accounts of ed's! We should try for falcao or cavani! Get £35-45 for suarez and spend it on 1 of them! Seriously! Thanks for listening ed's! Great site! DAVEY H , L20

 

 

17 May 2012 02:54:15
Hi Eds
Out of all the managers linked below, who in your opinion will come in? Or is there someone else?

AVB
Rafa
Brendon Rodgers
Klopp
Paul Lambert
Martin O'Neil
Martinez
Pardew

Cheers, Rumba {Ed023's Note - Very hard to tell who could come in right now as Macca stated the 2 he heard- are wanted, them two choices could easily reject the job. Klopp would be my pick from that list}

 

 

17 May 2012 02:52:20
anyone think gus poyet might be a good shout been around the prem for a long time and he has good man management skills...

IBIMO

P.S plz dont shoot me down just a thought..... eds i would like your opinion on him also
{Ed023's Note - No I wouldn't appoint Poyet at all. I would only appoint one british based manager and that is Moyes but that's highly unlikely}

Have to agree with the ED. If we can look past the blue vs red veil then Moyes for me would be a great shout - been saying it for a few years and get shot down by fellow reds for suggesting it. {Ed023's Note - He is a top top manager but it wouldn't happen.}

 

 

17 May 2012 02:51:27
Don't know if its just because of the uruguay link but, gus poyet has been mentioned, NO WAY! Imo, looking at the sky bet managers specials avb 2/1, r martinez 3/1 and rafa was 12/1, that kloop macca mentioned was 20/1 and strangely the other manager from ac milan weren't in the betting, and some bookmakers do that, leave players out in 1st goal scorer bets, and more likely the person they've left out scores! So maybe there doing that here, gonna go around the bookies tommorrow and if kloop and the ac milan managers r still decent prices, throw a few quid on them (and no, I won't blame macca), but avb 2/1 must be something in that! Goodnight and here's hoping for a better red news day tomorrow, keep believing, fsg will want to be winners, so won't be hasty in making a big decision for themselves and a even bigger decision for Liverpool football club! Y...N...W...A jft96! Herbie!

 

 

17 May 2012 02:45:24
Pep would be the dream, but I truly think AVB will be the next manager.

 

 

17 May 2012 02:30:41
Eds and Reds

I have no prefernce for new manager and will back whoever it is but.

If Man City has Mancini
and Arsenal have Arsene

Then surely it must be Klopp for ther Kop.

RedOz {Ed023's Note - Ha ha, very good}

Or Rafa for the Reds?

 

 

17 May 2012 02:12:24
I was the first poster to tell you Martinez was first choice if Sir King Kenny left. negotiations ongoing...angelinas right leg.

 

 

17 May 2012 02:11:44
Too those who try to be witty and clever on my posts, at least grow a pair and sign a name to it.

I say some things everyone agrees with and some that people hate, but always leave my name.

Its a rumour and opinion site, not a popularity contest.

Martinez, Rogers, not good enough, would crack as soon as the pressure came down, they have no pressure where they are atm and it works for them.

All these other managers names like emery, klopp, and the ac milan bloke, ill be honest, I know nothing about them.

My dream manager would just be someone who has been successfull at the top, and a big name who can attract big players.

As for fsg, if youre so desperate for top, youre guna need to spend big cash, so put up or shut up basically to them.

Ben the red

FSG put up or shut up, to be honest I with FSG were a bit more vocal

 

 

17 May 2012 01:28:15
This time last year, AVB was the most highly rated young manager in Europe with a £13 million release clause. Few bad months at chelsea with a poor team (better record than Di Matteo if you look at the stats) doesn't make him a bad manager and as one of the eds said earlier, we could do a lot worse

 

 

17 May 2012 01:58:06
Just like to what a sad day long live king ,also think who ever they bring god I hope the get it right and not just flavour of month manager and big big bag of cash that's what it's going to take Mr Henry

 

 

17 may 2012 01:57:18
hey, guys no rumours just something i wanted to share and hear some feedback for eds, macca and the rest,

i work in hospitality,was a very slow night and got talking to customer from boston we had in tonight, gentleman; business man in his 50s. being a lfc i fan had to ask if he was a redsox fan,and his thoughts of the owners, to which he replied, yes, for as long as he could remember. he told me his company do a lot of entertaining at the games. and that the fans a fully aware of the reds.

the owners in his opinion, are very good at what they do. they set out result (rather than a target) so financial value is added to the franchise ie top four. if this (result) is not achieved they work fast and decisive in getting the result they want. they are very methodical and good at what the do. he reckons that the owner always have a plan b and c if ever needed for any business or sport matter. they are very well connected. he told me that as a boston red sox fan he feels that the owners thay have give him confidence.

thats all i got, any veiws?

While I would like to be positive

the phrase

Much ado about nothing comes to mind

They know nothing about football.
kidmillions

 

 

17 May 2012 01:54:06
hey eds....now from what ive heard i dont know whether this is true or just a lie but apparantly the reason the owners havent filled the dof pos is because theyre just gona bring rafa bck as manager...dont know if it true or not tho

 

 

17 May 2012 01:43:58
Heya eds, do any of u know kenny has stepped down to another role in the club or is he gone fully??

BADGER {Ed002's Note - At this time he has gone.}

 

 

17 May 2012 01:40:46
I believe AVB will be our next manager. I believe the Suarez issue is a significant factor in KK's demise and that he will be sold for around 25 mil could get 30 depends on the owners patience. I would expect at least 2 marquee signings and most likely 3 more exciting but younger players. I expect the purge to continue with the older better paid players topping the list. Stevie G will be here until he hangs up his boots though he is the face of the Club. I expect that a top 4 finish will be next years goal by FSG. However, with a new manager and a new crop of players this maybe difficult. I would expect that FSG will want LFC to be hitting top stride once the Anfield re-development is completed. At that point 3 - 4 years from now the Club will be fed by their youth team and players will be sold for a great profit. I fully believe that LFC will be modeled after Ajax. Good things to come YNWA.

Coley

 

 

17 May 2012 01:28:42
Have to stop this obsession with the bookies suspending betting on managers, it means nothing. Ashley Young, Phil Jones and Darren Bent had their betting suspended to join us. Look how that turned out.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

But all were very close to join liverpool. RedTurk

Thankfully Blair mate

Completely agree. Bookies odds are just based on the amount of people betting and who they bet on it has nothing to do with any kind of inside knowledge it's just people jumping on the band wagon. Personally I think I'd like either A V B or Klopp if they aren't available then maybe Benitez.

Eric the red {Ed023's Note - I agree, when a horse goes favourite is he nailed on to win?}

Not Darren Bent RedTurk. He certainly wasn't. The others I agree about though.
KiwiRed

Tell me about it. I was very excited once when bookies suspended bets on Ribery joining us. :(


VM YNWA

Thanks Blair. It irritates me too.

It just means that the bookies have fleeced enough people on this bet/other related bets - they're just locking up their winnings.

I have gambling connections. lol.

BJH YNWA

 

 

17 May 2012 01:22:23
Klopp & Allegri seem to be unavailable.

FSG have plans to meet with AVB over the coming days as our priority target.

Its not all doom and gloom at all folks, our owners are here to win and want success badly. Expect them to back the new manager extremely well.

AVB will look to bring in Falcao, Periera, Moutinho, Munian and Griezmann - with Hulks wages to rule us out.

SammyRed

Allegeri is useless. Klopp or Van gal

Oh you mean the Allegeri that won the league title last season and finished runner up this season is useless?

Steve

 

 

17 May 2012 01:16:16
My friend works in reservations for BA in Heathrow and she said Jose Mourinho flying 1st class in from Madrid and they have had to make plans to discreetly usher him from plane to a Heli-pad. Could next destination be Anfield? {Ed002's Note - There is no first class on flights from Madrid. Hopeless.}

He's obviously flying to join the English camp to learn a twick or two from woy. no contact from LFC at all.

Chi-Paul

Maybe they are using the Babelcopter? Singred

Don't no how you put up with it ed02
Kp

Nice one ed!! lol

Dara D

 

 

17 May 2012 01:14:46
The manager will be Pep Guardiola. Of this I have no doubt. Young. Ambitious. Successful. Most importantly, AVAILABLE!! "the owners sacked Dalglish after their preferred choice became available." He recently became available. And after Real Madrid blitz them to the league he feels he had taken Barca as far as he humanly can. 3 La ligas and 2 Champs Lges in 4 seasons. I dont blame him. He said he was "emotionally and physically" drained so he couldnt continue however the real reason is the man in charge at Real Madrid is apparantly pretty good too and out witted him this season.

Guardiolas win rate is a remarkable 73% in 4yrs! Thats pretty much unrivalled. Now i know Liverpool dont have those players or even similar types to Barca however, with the backing the new man will receive, Guardiola will invest wisely and asstutely and MAKE Liverpool take on the two mancs, chelsea, arsenal and spurs for the title. FSG would be foolish to miss this trick and they know whattype of manager is currently needed to succeed. The fact that a manager of his calibre is out of work and the fact that his brother is the agent of a certain Luis Suarez it all fits together. 4yr contract. In that time, Liverpool to be back in Champs Lge. Very strong squad (man city-esque). And he will have delivered a League title. During that time Mourinho will have won the Champs Lge with Real and will have then claimed to have conquered Spain aswell and as soon as he moves on, Guardiola will be back at Barca. I am very confudent of this happening. Mainly because the other candidates out there are good but not GREAT and some are not even good! Lol! So FSG need to make a statement and what better way to make it than announcing that the "New Liverpool manager, is Josep Guardiola. Enjoy!"

Thanks

Kam

My nan could of got the same win rate as he did with barca in 4 yrs

Peter

His win rate will be 17% if he takes this liverpool side...i ll remind u..he doesnt havea messi, xavi, busqueets, in his liverpool team

And then you woke up

 

 

17 May 2012 01:12:39
I'm disgusted.

Slimboy

Me too mate.

Cuchulainn's Hounds

Disgusted that we will finally challenge for top4? Get over it, kenny let the club down with his poor signings n tactics.
Indian Buzzer

I think fans like you let the club down with their poor comments and remarks. For once in life wake up and support your team.

Live-On-Pool

 

 

17 May 2012 01:12:04
From my perspective, the most interesting part of the day is not the Kenny was let go as frankly I had expected that would happen, but that he had to apparently be 'pushed' out the door. I'm surprised by this as it would obviously been better for the club if he had publicly resigned instead and stated something like 'I'll help find a new manager to lead LFC forward' or something to that effect.

Or maybe I'm reading too much into it? Just having a hard time understanding how it ended up this way as it seem to clearly indicates divisiveness in the ranks, which is simply not helpful. Curious what others think?

RDL

I think the people making decisions on LFC future don't know anything about football.
FSG success in America with the red sox doesn't impress me. All them introvert american so called sports that no one else in the world plays wtf.
kidmillions

 

 

17 May 2012 01:11:38
avb...klopp

 

 

17 May 2012 01:11:03
Looks like a half dozen managers will be announced tomorrow.

I'm curious why some favor AVB. It seems odd to sack a manager for underachieving in the EPL and then replace him with a manager who was sacked for underachieving in the EPL.

JB

I'm with you on this one. I thought AVB was particularly hopeless even ignoring the chavski 'old guard'. Can't imagine why anyone would think he would be better with us. I've never felt less optimistic than right now.
ND

He wasn't given a chance at Chelsea by the players or the owner. He has a 70% win rate. Can't be that bad.

Eric the red

I think AVB 'failed' at Chelsea because the senior players (most of whom are past it anyway) wanted him to fail.
That said i am not advocating AVB for Liverpool

Puzzled

 

 

17 May 2012 01:02:58
Jamie Carragher to be named as player manager

 

 

17 May 2012 01:00:11
Kenny is a legend an only wants what's best for the club i personally think he should have been giving few games start next season to turn it round alot of the players let him down an luck was not on our side if u count 32 post an crossbars we would deffo at least have another 20 pts as most of them were in games we totally out played teams an lost ie arsenal , just think were not far off an barring the cup final to chelsea we totally out played top four teams when we played em ! Rant over . Thanks for everything kenny you'll always be the king ! Gaffer

 

 

17 May 2012 00:57:55
i think kenny shouldve been given another season,the andy carroll signing and downing signing backfired bigtime,also not finishing 4th didnt help.at least kenny put lfc on an even keel after hodgsons calamities

 

 

17 May 2012 00:53:05
RT @gemlouzLFC: Sky news now saying avb could be in liverpool in next 24 hours wtf is goin on #crazyday 1 minute ago
RT @Kopsource: Betting suspended on Andre Villas Boas to Liverpool. All this and more on Kopsource tomorrow morning. 40 minutes ago
RT @digger09lfc: AVB to be announced as new LFC manager next week 58 minutes ago
RT @empireofthekop: Ayre denies Liverpool have shortlisted Martinez es.pn/KmPd9w 3 hours ago
RT @AdamRoche: From 12/1 earlier! #backed RT @LFCtillwedie AVB now 3/1 to be #LFC manager 3 hours ago
CATEGORIES

Utter pants the lot of it. How much of this tripe can be traced back to stun/news international media? They must be rubbing their hands with glee at the chance to stick the knife into us.
ND

 

 

17 May 2012 00:42:25
what are the chances of Bielsa , Joachim Lowe , Klopp coming? please answer eds {Ed002's Note - We don't know at this time.}

 

 

17 May 2012 00:43:40
I would love to be a Kloppite.

Klopp, no Kop flop

Yea klopp of the kop has a certain ring to it

 

 

17 May 2012 00:43:14
Nothing important. And just curious, this is not a criticism - Macca, are you employed by FSG to act as a social marketeer?

If not, you could be a genius invention of a modern PR agency - offering us mere mortals a trusted glimpse into the inner workings of something we love but cant control (if you know what i mean).

Not really anything to do with football, just a comment.

i am actually genuinely sad KD has been sacked/left. Very short term frustrating decision. God hopes they have something massive up their sleeve - otherwise this decision could ruin them.

Sleep well LFC fans

Joff


PS who wagers Roy will get the best out of AC and SD, maybe SG this Euro tourney. That would be ironic. And pretty horrid in a funny way.

 

 

17 May 2012 00:39:58
Out of the managers that would likey go for the liverpool job the one with the most class would have to be rafa most of the others are not going to attract big name players in the position were in if we were in the champs league i think we would get bigger names for the job but were not.
phil.

 

 

17 May 2012 00:38:41
Bless you Kenny Dalglish YNWA
I really hope the owners know what they are doing. Any new manager will find it hard to hit Top 4 next year even with a sizeable investment. And if he doesn't...........?
The jury is out as far as I'm concerned.
I'll miss Kenny and all you posters who have insulted the great man over the past few months should hang your collective heads as you have no appreciation of what he has done for the club over the years.
Thanks for the great football, Mr Dalglish

cozinoz

I agree mate that any manager will find top 4 hard to get, but no harder than Dalglish would have.

We finished 8th and that is embarrassing. It wasn't just the woodwork that cost us mate, it was tactics and team selection. We played some beautiful football, but also some absolute dire football.

Dalglish was never going to be long term, and I think the owners are looking for a long term appointment. They couldn't risk another season as bad as this one. At least a new manager will bring renewed optimism to the club this off season. I dont think Dalglish could have musterred up quite the same level of optimism as what the unknown entity of a new manager will.

I think FSG have made a tough decision, but the correct one for the club.

LIVERPRES

You can't live on past glory FACT...we want someone who doesn't believe his own hype.

The owners did the right thing. Sad to see kenny sacked but he was outa touch with modern football.
Indian Buzzer

I echo and share your comments totally cozinoz....Dalglish has given his life to us and to be treated this way is disgusting. Kenny YNWA and will always be our King. Your name will be sung at every match we ever play.

God bless Kenny...a real man of dignity and honour and servant of our club

I am gutted

Tel 1949

Cozinos, mate, I couldn't have said it better myself. YNWA King Kenny...

Cuchulainn's Hounds

I think there is a danger here that anyone who said Kenny Dalglish should no longer be manager was by definition 'insulting' him. I can speak only for myself But I wanted a change of manager because we went backwards this season AND with a massive spend on new players. This was not an insult to Kenny Dalglish nor was it overlooking all the work and enjoyment he has given to the club.It was merely a view that legendary status does not mean we cannot change something that isn't working. Also before all the children on this site start telling me we didn't have a massive spend on players it was only £25millions or £35 millions. Rubbish....we are not talking here of nett spend - we are talking of money paid for players and it was massive! I keep seeing people say well we bought Carroll with Chelsea's money....well ok, but look what Newcastle have achieved with the money they received from us.

Puzzled

Spot on mate.

MIKEY

 

 

17 May 2012 00:37:33
Ideal new manager- Jurgen Klopp Good experience at a top club winning trophies with a fantastic record in signing players.

Realistic new manager- Brendan Rogers Not a bad manager but t could be hard to tell Swansea have been playing good football under him but only for one season at the top. I can see him coming if offered because he has taken Swansea as far as is likely achievable and I can see him taking on the Liverpool job with funds available for a project.

N.I Red

Do we really want to go down the 'he's done alright with a lesser club, imagine what he could do at Liverpool' route again?

Myk

 

 

17 May 2012 00:32:02
I must say i am really dumfounded at the level of support people are giving to the idea of AVB being our next manager.
Arguably the liverpool job at the moment is the most difficult in world football. Do you lot think a 34 year old is up to the task?
This is the man who practically in his first few games at chelsea managed to destroy the spirit and confidence of the players and lost the dressing room!
The stubborn know all who persisted with the high line at the back of the chelsea defence after time and again it proved, quite clearly, to be detrimental to the team and the results.
The man who is as bad as anybody in the premiere league at handling the media as ive ever seen.

Need i go on?

Please please no AVB

Peter

Avb failed at chelsea . i cant believe that he would be in the frame for our job . if he gets the job well then fenway you have made a huge mistake . i never wanted daglish back but to sack him and not have it sorted with a proper big name replacement makes me fear that the have not got a clue . avb your having a laugh

The chelsea players did not want avb

AVB is one of those things that you need to be careful what you wish for as you might just get it.

He would be a horrid manager for LFC

I'm clinging to the outside hope that Pep Guardiola would pick up the reins. Sadly, it's just wishful thinking.

Cuchulainn's Hounds

 

 

17 May 2012 00:28:47
V r becoming into city and Chelsea - sacking managers on failure, which can never be good for the long run.

Mgz

Ridiculous post. FSG have removed one of their appointments due to an embarrassing season.

We are quick to call for players to be sacked if they dont perform, why are managers immune? The managers driop players from the starting eleven or sell players who arent good enough dont they?

I love and respect Dalglish, but he was not the right man for the job. Most can see it, FSG can see it so they acted appropriately. Dalglish himself stated how FSG acted in an honourable and dignified manner when terminating his contract.

It is time for people to use their heads when talking about what is best for the club, and use their hearts when cheering the club on during the season.

LIVERPRES

Wow! Mgz, can you read what you have just wrote.

"sacking managers on FAILURE", as apposed to what? rewarding them? get off it.

 

 

17 May 2012 00:13:21
who ever the new manager is i don't really care

Liverpool have to win the title next season or they are sacked end of story.

eds think this site is the best ever for Liverpool stories

after looking at the past season why didn't they give kenny money to go out and buy a world class striker in the summer and a winger that is what we need.

but no the owners decide to sack kenny and now we are another 3 or 4 years away from winning the title. {Ed016's Note - Life time fans do not worry about 3 or 4 years. It could take 20 years. I will still be there supporting the club, I hope you will be too)

3 or 4 years is very optimistic for LFC to win the title

Mancini said yesterday city are going to outspend Madrid or Barca

 

 

17 May 2012 00:30:35
hope AVB doesn't get the job because i can't be doing with listening to his croaky voice {Ed003's Note - good enough reason I suppose}

 

 

17 May 2012 00:17:36
Mourinho please or rafa with descent pot can blow city and united away

RAFA never managed that in 6 years why so optimistic about him now?

Only two in my eyes

 

 

17 May 2012 00:11:35
Looking back on The Guardian and Liverpool related news, they seem to be constantly spot on with their stories. They're currently saying AVB, Klopp, or Deschamp. I'd go Klopp if possible, but if not then AVB any day over Deschamp.

Interesting post about AVB early also. His stats at Chelsea are much better than Di Matteo, yet Di Matteo gets all the praise. Just goes to show that the players had it in for him from day one. I wonder if he'd be able to manage Carra and Gerrard with all the power they have in the club?

-Shane.

Erm he'd put carra into retirement in his contract clause. and I'd back him on that. Gerrard needs to give up the arm band and let Agger take it, he shouldn't hog it he is not in the right physical state to lead.

With any luck the new manager, whoever it may be, should stamp his authority on the gerrard and carragher power very early. It would be great to see the new manager tell them both that they are no longer required players. Thats the way to stamp your authority on your new team.

Steve

Which part of rafa getting sacked because he wasnt good enough have people forgot

Carra and Gerrard - both heroes are gone - SG too expensive at £120K a week for a few games

Well this is why the new man needs to be strong....we have already seen what it is like if anyone criticises Gerrard or Carragher - but the manager manages. The players do as directed or move on

Puzzled

Good point Shane I was thinking that myself. Carragher's day are pretty much over now and I dont think Gerrard is too far behind as he is never fit anymore.

Can't help but think Terry and Lampard will be in his ear all summer starting trouble with their possible relationship before it even starts.

Maybe the future of Liverpool is now without them? Great servants but everyone has a life span

Davey

 

 

17 May 2012 00:11:06
I want to thank KK for all his efforts and hard work, a lot did not go his way, and the outstanding performances of all the keepers at anfield. Carroll only finds his form at the end of the season, downing the same and hendo.
KK will always be special to us as is the carling cup he gave to us. We must all move on now we can not change the past, but we have to pick the right manager now.
KK will always be in our hearts.
KK will understand I hope.
hibsylfc

Agree fully - great post mate.

The futuer is what matters now - we need to do it right.

LFC will walk on, and so will Dalglish.

LIVERPRES

 

 

17 May 2012 00:11:04
After today whatever happens,i will always be humbly greatful to a certain Mr Dalglish.When the good ship mighty reds was sinking,not only did he defy orders not to turn his vessel around,he gallantly with no thought for self did sacrifice his own mortality in the quest to save other souls.A noble man,some may say brave,others hold their tongues so as not to be frowned upon,painstakeingly denying their existance.But only a few,knowing the task at hand to be harsh would return,and where would we be now,if for instance he had not returned,drowned at sea for sure.To all who sail on the good ship MIGHTY REDS,remember your saviours name,for it be DALGLISH.fanx kenneth YWNWA.

 

 

17 May 2012 00:09:19
Avb failed miserably at Chelsea yet we want are apparantly after him, am I missing something here! Thanks riz

You are missing a brain.
ANFIELDPETE

Well said

Lol riz - you and me both mate. I can't understand it and only take solace in Ed002's opinion that AVB will not be at LFC next season. In Ed002 i trust.

LIVERPRES

 

 

17 May 2012 00:08:38
all afternoon ive been hearing , kenny should have got another year and that fsg only interested in money , and that he got sacked because we didnt finish 4th. a reality check is needed here . ive been an lfc fan for nearly 40 years and kk is and always will be a legend , but it wasnt because we didnt finish 4th it was because we finished 8th and think we only picked up 20 pts since december . dont think any manager would have survived that . yes we won the carling cup and if we had won the fa cup kk would have got another year but in the final team selection and tactics cost us . which probably highlighted kk's problems . i think fsg made a brave decision in sacking kenny because of his status but the club need to move forward . i know we have had a lot of bad luck this season and first half of the season we were playing good football and probably didnt get the results our performances warrented but thats football and at the end of the day its points that count . why was it untill the last few games of the season the we saw carroll and saurez gelling and tormenting teams . carroll left out of cup final when he was playing well and buzzing with confidence .maybe if he had had a decent run in the team his form would have returned alot earlier . i was at the home game against a very poor villa side where we played a negative 1 upfront like we were the away team thats not how it should be at anfield .
like i said kk will always be a legend but the game has changed alot over the years ,and tactics are vital in this day and age .

Post of the day

AGREE, we should move on, it was a brave decision but the right one.

 

 

17 May 2012 00:07:09
klopp for the cop... it rhymes so must be true?

Kop......get it right

Klopp for the kop.
AnfieldUSA

How could you get Klopp right and KOP wrong?

 

 

17 May 2012 00:03:39
If we need to buy any players on the cheap I wonder wat about Kevin Doyle I know he has had his inguries but he would make a great team player he can hold the ball up and knows were the net is also

 

 

17 May 2012 00:03:18
Oh no theyv'e killed kenny!!

red blancmonge

Trending

No, they've restored him to legendary status!

 

 

16 May 2012 23:57:56
Why does Henry have to sack Dalglish now?!?!?!

Ed's could you do me a favour and shut this site down for two weeks? I have exams coming up soon and this site is too addictive and I don't wanna fail. Please help me. {Ed003's Note - No sorry,but what are you doing up at this time? get some kip and good luck with the exams}

Same here mate...emotions all over the place, the little focus I did have is not all lost :P still undecided whether I am happy it not with the decision

 

 

16 May 2012 23:57:46
if boas was to become manager could he persuade falcao to join probably just wishful thinking ?

BelfastRed

Well he didn't persuade Falcao to join Chelsea, so why would he persuade him to join us?

Very wishful thinking, and AVB will be a terrible appointment.

He could it think. at 30m - 40m would be worth it. his salary wont be that much of a problem in terms of what he is getting now just if there were to be other teams like chelsea also in for him then the salary would be an issue.

 

 

16 May 2012 23:54:19
How long do you expect it will take to find and put in place a new manager? I hope it is sooner rather than later because they will need to start putting in place their plans for the club and move on any transfer targets because, as you have stated these targets will change with new DOF and manager

 

 

16 May 2012 23:35:42
If it villas-boas I'm not totally opposed, his record at Chelsea wasn't good, but if dressing room egos refuse to play his days where always numbered, rafa had a shocker a inter but you wouldn't it goes by throw the players suit managers styles, I hope the owners look at city and see the team needs a complete over haul which should have been done 5 years ago

 

 

16 May 2012 23:32:10
I pray that we get this appointment right. It's a great opportunity for the right person to take the club forward and become a legend. I look at the Prem League candidates been put forward for the job an say, yeah they have done it on small budgets and play nice football but are they right for the job in hand? Martinez - why sack Kenny who had bad 6mths and replace him with a mgr who had a good 6wks that isn't the answer in my opinion. Rogers - yeah great you play nice football an kept Swansea up, but seriously is he an ideal candidate? Again no, he and Martinez will get chances to progress at the likes of Villa, Everton. In my opionion I would be looking at AVB, Klopp, Bielsa. AVB wouldn't have problems he found at Chelski, Klopp impressive season with Dortmund and played Bayern off the park in German Cup Final. Bielsa Git Bilboa to Europa final, and no secret that Guadiola cites him as one of his main influences. All can attract the calibre of players we need to go forward as a club and can take us to where we need to go. No Prem manager tick enough boxes and aren't worthy enough as well as good enough to manage my side
Kev YNWA

 

 

16 May 2012 23:27:51
I understand now why Liverpool put a freeze on tickets mmm the next 24 hours are going to be intresting.avb bookies fav not sure about that one!
Timmo lfc

 

 

16 May 2012 23:51:49
Hi Eds & Reds,

As I said a couple of days, I was for Kenny Daglish staying, but FSG decided that its was for the betterment of the club and Kenny should go, so be it, gutted that he is gone, but FSG has acted quickly, which is to be commended in a way.

Now for finding his replacement, if they decide to go for a younger manager, ala Martinez, i dont think he will be given a significant budget, but he will be tasked with completing the rebuild and getting CL football. IMO, I think Martinez is relatively inexperienced and possibly a very big gamble we cant afford to take.

Second option, we go for someone like Van Gaal, a proven winner, he would command a big budget and FSG would be demand CL qualification as a minimum next season.

Third option, we go for a Martin O'Neill type figure. A good man manager, proven track manager and used to working with a small budget.

I cant that i know much about Klopp, Biesla etc, so i wont comment on them, but out of the 3 people i mentioned as possible candidates, Van Gaal is the one for me. I think FSG will move very quickly and expect new manager to be in place by end of next week.

Rebel_Red

 

 

16 May 2012 23:51:47
Pep Guardiola has been linked with the vacant Liverpool managers job.

Well, he did say he needs a break from football.

 

 

16 May 2012 23:51:22
If they have got rid of Kenny it must be because there number one target is available and they do not want to miss out..

I would be very surprised if we do not appoint a top manager soon, i personally do not believe we will sign Martinez or Rodgers..

If i was putting my neck on the line i would not be surprised if Klopp was appointed..

Look i have been wrong before but that is my opinion..

Sorry i can't shed anymore light on the situation but i believe we must trust the owners as it is a very bold move. They are also very shrewd business men who are looking to see a return on there investment. The only way that will happen is when we start competing at the highest level,this means they have to invest..

I was told back in April that there where going to be very big changes at the end of the season, it looks like that info i was given was correct..

Keep you posted..

Cheers

Macca

Hi Macca mate,

Say if we were to appoint Kloop or Van Gaal type figure, how much of an investment do you think they would ask for?

There's figures of 15-20 million been banded about as our transfer budget at the moment, surely a proven manager like Kloop would be looking for 4/5 times that.

Rebel_Red

If klopp is signed I think I will cry. While running around the house naked, with a pacifier in my mouth.
AnfieldUSA

Would love Klopp at the club , Macca mate. Fingers crossed.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

I hope this is the case makes no sense to release KK without our guy lined up. Just hope we bring in the man that that's for years to come and we stop this revolving door of managers that will get us nowhere!
Cheers
TSB

So Macca in your opinion their number one target is Klopp?

if so then i hope he brings his if you are technically good enough then you can play, Sterling, Suso etc That will make him a popular manager amongst the Liverpool fans.

If he did that in bringing in the youth and we didn't get CL football, I wouldn't mind because that would show that he REALLY is building for the future and not just pretending to the media as a means to justify poor results.

Cheers Macca, I'd love Klopp personally. The only two i'd rather than Kenny are Klopp or Bielsa so if we get one of them i'll be content. No one else can do the job better than Kenny at present in my opinion.
KiwiRed

Thanks for your fantastic and continued efforts, Macca... It's safe to say that King Kenny and SC were not your informants...
Here's hoping for a bright red future!
NextGenRed

Klopp, please!

Adam

 

 

16 May 2012 23:47:34
Ralf Rangnick please FSG

 

 

16 May 2012 23:47:20
I think the owners have made up their minds when they let comolli go that the same was going to happened to Kenny, I'm little sad about Kenny's departure and will support any manager that comes in to replace him, now they have enough time to make the right choice and get a replacement in early so the new manager will have time to sort out his own team in terms of new signings and the players he will let go.
Good luck to the new manager in getting us up that league table.

 

 

16 May 2012 23:46:00
As someone who has been pushing for this decision I congratulate FSG on expediting a resolution.
I also want to thank KD for the dignified manner in which he has left, and think this just adds to the iconic status in which he should be held.
As to the future, I think we need experience (not Martinez or Rodgers), but also need to accept where we are in terms of European football (no Mourinho or Guardiola).
Ideally I would like Bielsa or Klopp but realistically think we could end up with AVB.

GINO61

You should hang your head in shame.

It was because of keyboard warriors like you that Kenny lost his job

Tel 1949

 

 

16 May 2012 23:44:01
Has Di Mateo been mentioned yet?

 

 

16 May 2012 23:42:03
Sorry to see Kenny go, there's no one has passionate about the club and he has showed to be an excellent ambassador and has shown great character and respect with his positive and professional comments following his departure.
Hopefully now the club can move forward with an approach for an experienced and proven manager such has Mourinho. He could bring in the type of player like Alonso and Huigain and build on and keep players like Suarez,Carrol, Johnson, Kelly and Skrtel.
Hiddink would be another excellent option, with proven experience of the premiership and being able to get the best out of his players.
The whole shift and removal of management and directing staff shows a positive step from the owners. I am only sorry that Kenny did not take up the offer of an internal position has he is the true reflection of liverpool football club. Only time will tell if Kennys departure was done too early.

 

 

16 May 2012 23:39:41
Edd just herd on talk sport that the bookis have stopet taking bets on AVB. What's your opinion? Thanks {Ed001's Note - that bookies know absolutely nothing other than how much money has been placed on AVB.}

 

 

16 May 2012 23:38:42
AVB'S Managerial record

PORTO WIN % 88.24
CHELSEA WIN % 47.50 (ONLY LOST 10/40)
Choices for me
1.Klopp-Unlikely
2.Pep-Dreamland
3.AVB-Free Agent-The most likely of the 3

 

 

16 May 2012 23:38:07
Bye bye Stuart Downing,Jay Spearing and Charlie Adam then?
These players won't survive an ambitious new manager's plans. Or,at least, they shouldn't.
The rest of the squad should maybe be kept to minimise disruption but anyone who still wants to leave should be allowed to for the "right price". Kuuyt, Reina and Skirtel may well change their minds about leaving now Kenny's gone (I've no idea if they actually wanted to leave or if it was speculation).
Apparently, Steve Clarke has avoided the chop.
This is good news !
The Kenny Dalglish revolution wasn't given enough time to develop.....I'm sure "Suarez-gate" was the main reason, followed by not reaching fourth and the inflated prices paid for players who weren't instant hits.
For the Suarez "thing" I'll just say that LFC lost to the Mancs big-style on that one!....Evra, Ferguson and Ferdinand hustled us big-style on that incident and my contempt for the Mancs is now sky-high!
Our League form was pathetically inept but we were trying to build a squad to challenge and, in many respects, succeeded. Our football was sometimes brilliant but too sporadic to mount a challenge.....Kenny's faith in Spearing,Downing,Henderson and Enrique was costly and Gerrard and Carragher's importance to the team has been over-played.
Gerrard, Agger, Kelly, Aurelio and Johnson are fragile and, in some cases not good enough!

Personally, I'd definitely release/sell; Spearing, Kuuyt, Maxi Rodriguez, Downing, Adam, Cole, Aquilani, Poulsen, Ecclestone, Pacheco and anyone else who wants to piss off.....Skirtel, Reina, Agger ?

Starting from scratch is okay by me.
New manager. New team.....completely.

We think Skirtel, Lucas, Reina, Gerrard, Carroll, Carragher, Henderson, Downing, Enrique etc. are good enough!?

None of our "first team" are good enough.

We are lumbered (contactually) with some players but we need to accept them as expensive mistakes in order to move forward.
Hopefully, we can offload Adam, Downing,Spearing, Kuuyt and Maxi = £30m
(wishful thinking)
Others....£20m

Personally, I'd go for AVB, Roberto Martinez or Brendan Rogers.

Andres Villas Boas has excellent credentials and would suit us perfectly. His style of football and like-ability factor, along with his grasp of English and his period under Mourinho make him a valid candidate.
Roberto Martinez is a fabulous young manager who Wigan are lucky to have. His record suggests a bigger club but is it worth taking a chance on him?...He would be extremely likeable and knows English football.
Brendan Rogers cuts a dashing figure...he's young,suave and chiseled from Welsh granite (though he may be Irish). His style of football is completely continental. If we hire Brendan then we'll win the Europa League....no probs!
Will he buy the right players to win enough League and Cup games to satisfy the fans/owners?
I honestly don't know anything at the moment.
My views will change over the coming weeks.
The only things which remain constant are my views on who we should get rid of (see above).
Whatever happens this Summer will get my support but today has been a bit of an ordeal.
Thanks Kenny.
ANFIELDPETE

Though I agree with your views on the potential managers, your views on some of our players are ridiculous!

Jack D.

What a waste of time reading that!

 

 

16 May 2012 23:37:20
I personally think AVB would be a good choice, as would Massimiliano Allegri and Jurgen Klopp, with AVB do eds think we could bid for Joao Moutinho who could finally fill the void that was created when Alonso left

 

 

16 May 2012 23:36:38
avb is favourite wat a joke didnt people see wat he was like for cheski rubbish he is not the answer neither is rogers or martinez for me there is only one man even macca agrees so ed001 get used to it cause RAFA is coming home {Ed001's Note - AVB is more palatable than Rafa.}

 

 

16 May 2012 23:36:26
Some serious money going on AVB....

Fitzy

 

 

 
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