Liverpool Banter Archive July 18 2013

18 Jul 2013 23:03:53
Brilliant quotes from Rodgers on Suarez tonight.

"When you consider that Cavani has gone for £55m you know. Luis is up there in that bracket of top talent."

"We are prepared to get some players in and spend money without having to sell Luis Suarez."

"If Arsenal came back with that kind of amount (£55million) there's no guarantee he would be sold even for that."

And my personal favourite

"They have stood by him (Su�rez) through thick & thin, and through all the traumas he has gone through over the last couple of seasons If there is anyone he owes it's them and his team-mates, who have fought beside him, certainly not me."

Softening us up for the sale of Suarez.

Trying to make the club look good when in fact they are selling our best player.

We should sell someone who does not want to be there.

Stop being foolish and trying to hold onto him

LTP

Our best player is selling himself mate, we are just trying to protect our club and not get shafted.

RedLee

If anyone offers £55 million we should bite their hands off.

18 Jul 2013 22:27:38
I genuinely believe this year we will c a big improvement on last season with the signings we brought in and the players we have and irrelevant of whether suarez goes or stays i'm sure there is a plan if he does go lpool won't be put in the same situation as torres and carroll people just need to chill work will be being done as we all post when suarez goes i'm sure we will find out, and although we may not be world beaters I think this season is a good chance for us to take advantage of utd and city having big changes everton will lose pace I think no one will touch Chelsea for title with jose back but think next 3 could be anyones obviously arsenal spurs will be in with a shout with us just think the way we finished last season very positive add new signings and the squad having had more time to adapt to br style think we in with a good shout and if we do get top 4 that will be huge step in right way as then we will attract those players maybe we can't right now we have to get behind team and br with mignolet/reina, Johnson agger toure Enrique Kelly wisdom poss skrtel/replacement, downing allen Henderson gerrard aspas sterling lucas coutinho, sturridge borini alberto suarez/replacement? would love to see likes of teixiera samma flannaghan backing the team up don't think we looking to bad put those players in whichever order u want and as I say we won win the league but sure we can be very close to top 4 what do u all think and if we don't just to be pushing will be improvement and given our finances at the moment is that not a good direction to be going in I can't wait for it to start

Mate. Am sure that you make some valid points somewhere in that mish-mash of words, and colours ans sounds.
Next time, add the odd full stop so we can actually read what you're saying without having dome kind of acid flashback.
Ta.x

City have hugely upgraded their manager.
City have bought Negredo, Fernandinho, Navas & Jovetic.
Add that to easily the best squad in the league and I don't see where we will take advantage of them.

There are some seriously trashy post on this site but I agree with the 3rd poster in regards to City, they've made some very good signings this season - In my opinion.

Nicky D

18 Jul 2013 22:18:25
Eds fellow reds, with suso, Coady and wisdom looking like going on loan, do you think it just for experience or with a view to sell .i think suso and wisdom are close to first team players already and Coady could make squad this season .so why loan them

Adorjan to, and he's not even had a chance. Shame I thought he was going to make it. Makes me wonder at times if some of our players had been at Ajax and some of theirs at us how things would have turned out?

18 Jul 2013 23:53:58
It's considered better for their development if they play 30-40 games this year as opposed to playing 4 or 5 with 10-15 sub appearances on top

Alvy

Coady won't ever make it. Decent player but noy good enough

Coady won't make it guy hahah watch him play then comment witch u have not done

Young players go out on loan for first team football. From U21's to actual first team is a huge step. This will aid their development and also the club can assess whether or not the player can make the step up.

MUSHROOM

18 Jul 2013 21:53:28
Carlo is not keen at all on Suarez. He has less say in transfers than other more influential people but Carlo has expressed that he would prefer other targets than Suarez. Just thought I'd share

Nevada

Thanks Nevada.

The real AG

Gotta say he's a smart man. Funny how Wenger is so keen though.

I think Arsenal are more desperate for a player like Suarez to be honest. They need someone like him to compete again.

18 Jul 2013 21:41:26
2009/10 was the last time we entered CL, is that right?

It makes me laugh how some people are swayed by media and some persons within it. Hearing that Liverpool can't sign this player or that player, spurs don't seem to have too many problems and they've done what exactly? Yes, nothing!

Although we've had a few bad seasons (where we've still won more than spurs and Arsenal) we've become a rotten apple for top stars - give me a break!

If you keep telling people the same old stories they believe whatever you feed them.

Forget our past history, our recent history is better than most clubs out there.

We've had a bad time for a little while in terms of ownership and it's fair to say we've been run pretty poorly as a business, paying over the odds for players, agent fees and generally signing selfish individuals but surely we are improving, won't be taken for a ride, bringing team players in!

And the last note, I wish the tools suggesting Liverpool don't have a strong hand RE Suarez would turn it in, he has a long contract with us - I'm 100% sure he will go but on our terms!

Very last note, you go and get them in top 4 Brendan my son! I've every faith you will.

RedLee

Great post redlee .
YNWA
Jamesy

Good post, highlighting some good issues

Nevada

Very good post!

Sweet mate

Cuchulainn's Hounds

Good post RedLee.

The real AG

18 Jul 2013 21:13:10
Is it true Pacheco may transfer to Celta Vigo or Hull?

He just said on his FB page that he's going to Spain now.
'Off to Spain now. Hot, hot, hot'. was the quote, if memory serves.

18 Jul 2013 21:04:34
are we doing a fantasy football league again this year? If so anyone know the code?

cheers :)

82921-24935

18 Jul 2013 21:10:43
Coady to Sheff Utd. on a loan deal

18 Jul 2013 20:49:36
Any rumours on Abel Hernandez coming to the Bpl? Would be a treat to see him at lfc with his pace.

Liverpaul88 {Ed030's Note - I don't think so mate. }

18 Jul 2013 20:43:22
Hi eds

Please could u tell me this and anyone else out there feel free to answer this please.
How come cavani goes for 55mill and I read somewhere the won't let shrek go for anything less than 80mill. So to show the power that lies in the club surely we won't let Suarez go for 70/80mill I mean Suarez has longer than shrek on his contract and Suarez is a better player plus we don't want to sell so surely we should not be bullied into 40/50 mill if other so called good players are going for ridiculous amounts.
Thanks for your time and look forward to hearing from everyone {Ed030's Note - Rooney will go for no where near £80 million perhaps more around the £25 million mark. }

£25m-£30m IMO. I think the £80m reported was salary too.

Disney! {Ed030's Note - and Fee's and numerous other things it would be around that much. }

18 Jul 2013 20:26:12
Luis Suarez will remain at Liverpool "unless something drastic happens", according to manager Brendan Rodgers.
I guess that means Suarez handing in a transfer request and a offer of £50m for him?
Thats drastic enough for me, although I want him to stay

18 Jul 2013 23:45:05
I think he just means the transfer request

Rather funny, Suarez saying there's no need for him to hand in a transfer request to get a move, Rodgers saying that he isn't going anywhere without handing in a transfer request.

It looks like we're going to have to wait and see what happens I suppose but one things pretty certain in my mind.

At least the first game or two of Suarez ban is going to take place in our stands

Alvy

18 Jul 2013 20:23:25
not a rumour or anything but will you be making a fantasy football league again this year?
Cheers

18 Jul 2013 20:19:42
I had a dream last night that it was the last game of the season and it was neck and neck with us and Chelsea for the title.
Unfortunately I was stuck at work alone, and had misplaced my phone so was bouncing around for hours singing to myself, desperate for a fellow red to walk through the door.
Best dream ever!

Incidentally United finished 4th behind city

I'll take this dream as a premonition.;-)

We won the league by the way.

We can all dream I suppose but reality sucks.

"reality sucks". Maybe for you mate.
Speak for yourself. Being a football fan you must have realised that there are going to be good times and bad times?
I think reality at the moment is actually quite exciting for us. New Players, good youngsters, good young first team and signs of progress for the future.
If you want to support a team which always win 8-0 every week then watch the A-Team fella!

Dont't feed the trolls jonnybarnes mate.

The real AG

18 Jul 2013 20:14:58
Not particularly LFC related but with Negredo and Jovetic is Aguero on his way to Madrid I know they wanted him but do they still and would this stop them bidding for Suarez?

19 Jul 2013 01:06:05
Aguero will go to Madrid at some point. We all know he only went to City for a big pay day first because he was never going to go there from Atletico Madrid. Still gutted he never played for us, I remember that summer, ignoring the pragmatists and clinging on to the idea with hope! Him and Suarez would surely have been the best strike partnership in the EPL!

18 Jul 2013 19:46:30
Ed's I hear the board room have expressed that champions league qualifation is a MUST this forthcoming season.
Challenging for the league is the aim and anything below top four is a fail.
I believe Brendan is aware and is up for the challenge but also understands the stance.

Pressure on Brendan then as this looks like a make or break season.

Physic red.

Can't see us competing for the premier league as long as the likes of Allen, downing and skrtl are regulars. Mid table here we come.

Strltl was our best player season before last. Allen is a great squad player with the potential to be an unsung great.
You never know in football

Rubbish.

This season is about moving forward again, last season we played good football & scored more goals.

Top 4 will be a goal but not UCL or you r on your way, I think we won't get top4 this season but I expect us to be a lot closer & I'm 100% comfortable with that.

The owners ant daft, the club is trying to play the same football from u18s to 1st team, bringing quality youngsters in, complete change of playing style. Do u really expect owners to dump all that if we Finnish 5th?

Just take a couple of minutes to digest these names gillet/hicks, hodgson & ngog & that wet night away to Blackburn. Now forward wind to where we r now.

It's all about building & improving bit by bit. Not fantasy football & not sexy but patience required chaps.

Jimbob

If the owners think that then they are either delusional and/or ready to hold onto Suarez and considerably back Rodgers with 2/3 top signings. Can't see it myself. Challenging top 4 is realistic, top 4 is optimistic.

13reds

Total disagree with jimbob.
Every eeason Liverpool are out of the champions league it costs in reputation and player building. Also it costs a club like Liverpool financial because of the expectations and wages.

Br will be told. get into the top four.
sj {Ed030's Note - I am sure he will mate. }

Top 4 will be the target but as long as we are improving I think we should stick with rodgers, pulling the trigger on managers too quickly sets the whole club back . it could take time

18 Jul 2013 19:22:50
Are we actually adding to the team or was Rodgers on about Gerrard signing his extension & keeping Suarez

Did we not sign 4 players already?

18 Jul 2013 18:59:45
Who I think we should realistically buy.

- Yilmaz (Suarez replacement) £15m.

- Bernard £18m, more versatile than Eriksen and has more potential. Can play either wing and could be cover for continuo at CAM.

- Alderwerield (only if Skrtel leaves) £7m, much cheaper & better than Papa.

I also highly doubt that we would sell Suarez to Arsenal as we would be competing with them for fourth place next season.

LFCamden

Is continuo a link player?

Realistically your fees are just dreaming. {Ed030's Note - They are pretty realistic aside from Yilmaz. }

18 Jul 2013 18:49:00
Eds if higuain signs for us. and its a big of. do u see him fitting into our system of an inter-changing front 3? {Ed002's Note - No idea - try the fantasy football page.}

Don't waste your energy thinking about it.

He will not sign for us.

18 Jul 2013 18:29:14
I'm clueless, for having an opinion that I don't think lucas is good enough for top 4? don't delude yourselves that he can do everything. He hit form once upon a time, was really good but let's be honest, he wouldn't get in any of the teams we are aiming to keep up with.

One thing I hate about many Liverpool fans is that you massively big up are players that haven't made us competitive. If Lucas Is 'Outstanding' what does that make Carrick? World class? Head on shoulders above Lucas so you see my point.

If he could find that form again, brilliant but too inconsistent for me. his passing is decent, positioning decent overall a solid player. However, when do you see lucas bring the ball forward, maybe go past a man, thread a killer pass. Very rare. I feel we need someone more commanding. And someone Who actually possesses a threat going forward as well.

For me this is an are we need to strengthen, as well as a Cb, and a winger/Striker wants suarez does leave, which he will regardless of what Rodgers says.

Danny {Ed052's Note - Carrick and Lucas are different players. We've had the discussion uesterday, and I cannot comprehend why people don't rate Lucas}

These people read stats. They see midfielder with few goals and assists. Lucas is a top DM. Wake up

Just because Lucas isn't extravagant and doesn't have fancy skills doesn't mean he's bad. Every team needs a man in midfield who controls the play with tackles (which he's very good at) and simple movement of the ball.

Lucas playing at his best like that Man city game before he got injured then yes he was terrific! But I feel maybe someone else may be need for the physical games like your stokes etc

Danny

Lucas is one of the players we need that won't go forward to protect while our fullbacks are bombing forward, otherwise we'd be left with only 2 players behind the ball if the other team break which is our CB's, he is a cracking player and its clear by our records that he is a very top players for us, we miss him a lot when he is out, definitely gets my vote for vice captain, some people just think that one player can do absolutely everything on a football pitch, he does a damn fine job where he is supposed to, and that is breaking up play!


Jackoo

Agreed. He's not what we need in defensive midfield. He's incredibly over rated by our fans. No presence, slow, poor positioning and ball chases far too often. It seems anyone who doesn't seem to think Lucas is god's gift to Liverpool is clueless. He's done well to turn things round since he joined the club but he wouldn't get anywhere near the first 11 of the top 4 sides.

Totally agree with Danny.
Lucas is very good, but that's about it.

In my opinion, to get to top 4 the squad still need decisive players. 1 or 2 more guys that can turn a game around such as Suarez can. All this young talent is great news for 2014-2015 season, but for now they are good back up players. Even if Suarez stays, we still need more.

Sturridge has been very good but I don't see him being that game changer. Coutinho could be in this next season, since signed he has been a HUGE pleasant surprise.

Shinron

18 Jul 2013 19:19:22
When did you see Claude makalele play a killer pass, or beat a man? Fact is, not every player has to be able to pull a bit of magic out of the bag. It doesn't make a player average. He adds balance, being able to break up, and slow down attacks with comparative ease. Pretty much the job we sold mascherano to barca because he could do. Clubs need players who do that, and they tend to move for prices that most people don't understand, simply cause they do so much for the team. Remember, it's all about the team

Danny, I'm not going to call you clueless mate, everyone is entitled to their opinion and that's what makes this site so good. However, I do disagree with you. Lucas, in my opinion, is one of the PL's best DMs. I know you could say the old 'rose tinted glasses' thing, but my reason for this is because the way Lucas plays is incredibly subtle. He is the antithesis of a Brazilian footballer, he isn't flair and tricks, but what he did last season was create a barrier in front of breaking midfielders charging at what was largely a lacklustre defensive line. When our midfield charged forward, it left the middle of the pitch incredibly susceptible to counters. When Lucas came back, this was firmed up almost instantly. I cannot remember the amount of times he made unbelievably crucial tackles to stop people offloading to wingers who had already bombed past Enrique and/or Johnson as they were up near the final third. Lucas firms things up, he gets in the faces of the opposition to disrupt their play, and he does it so under the radar that a lot of the time it goes unnoticed.

I think we DO need another DM, because I'm of the opinion every single position should have competition to make the starting XI stronger, however I don't think we could find many DMs easily available who would be able to read the game like Lucas does.

I love the guy, not only on the pitch but off it too. Top bloke who honours the shirt.

JFT 96

JP

I can't believe after 5? Seasons people still question Lucas and his worth to the team.

Makelele didn't have the best of "stats" but was probably the key component of the Madrid and Chelsea teams that were so successful. Lucas in his own way is vital to our team, easily demonstrated in the results post Christmas.

Richards

I'm glad to have had this reaction to the post its great. People who say Mackele. This is exactly the kind of player I think we need. Only thing is they are extremely rare. It is fine to have a defensive player who is not as creative as the rest but he has to be great in that role. Mackele was and lucas is decent.

Danny {Ed030's Note - I think Matiudi would be a good shout. }

How about this for stats? After missing about half of the season, he still managed to get the most tackles in the PL and one of the highest in Europe. If you want to judge DM's on stats, then you should actually look at stats related to their positions (Tackling, Interceptions, passing accuracy, etc.).

You don't see those types of passes from Lucas simply because that isn't his role in the team. We have Coutinho in that role. Defensive Mid's are probably the most underrated players in the game because MOTD doesn't show what they do. I bet you the majority of Lucas-haters are Allen-slaters.

I agree ed, I like the look Of Medel as well. Just a beast!

Danny

Poster under Shinron - I completely agree mate! Danny - you're entitled to your opinion, but I got to say Lucas is hugely important to our team, he breaks up play you'll never seem him featured on MOTD but he does a great job - JP, I agree with absolutely everything you say, the guy oozes honour and and is a complete pro in my eyes (would like to see him as vice captain myself) though I do agree that he needs competition to keep him on his toes (allen, coady perhaps) but to slate him is ridiculuos!

Swallybean

Well I'm in the opinion people who over analyze and overrate Lucas' game are the people who can be as clueless as one can be.
The stats show high numbers because Lucas can only a) break the play when the team is attacking b) tackle c) pass to the player next to him. Other aspects of his game are near to 0. His shooting is crap, his clever pass rarely finds the target, his ability with the ball is non existent.
For his role he is good when top of his game. But that's it! Nothing fancy about, nothing that other holding midfielders CAN'T do.
We need something more if we want to break first 4 positions. Lucas is not a top team material. He will be excellent choice for a cover though.

Again with the Lucas discussion, eh? My belief in Lucas aside (I think he's very, very good at what he does) it does seem as CDMs in general draw the short end of the stick. They're not typically mentioned in the game highlights, they don't score goals, and they don't get assists but for anyone who watched us play without Lucas and with him it should seem quite obvious what his impact is to the team.

Oh, and the person mentioning Carrick- I don't like United in the slightest, but Carrick played very well for them last year and is also (in my opinion) a good CDM.

Ever wondered when he got injured why Lpool were so easily run through in midfield. Too many of you don't even probably go to the match and just spout nonsense.

3rd best tackling stats in the premiership last season, playing 1/3 of the season less than the 2 players above him.
Fully fit this season and he will be awesome .

Phooey

Sergio busquets has a new contract with a £130m buy out clause. He's not worth that but he is to Barca as they can't play the way they want without a quality CDM. Go check out his stats. In a free scoring Barca team he gets a goal every 35 games and less assists.

If you are going to try and compare Lucas to other midfielder, at least have the common sense to understand what role he plays and in what ways he benefits the team before you go and judge him.

Lucas is an exceptionally good DM. Last year he was about 50% of his best. As is expected in the year coming back from the injury he had (roughly an equal number of months getting back as what you spend out). Before the injury, he was simply the best DM in the English league. He will be again this coming year.

SpudRed

Busquets is 10 times the player Lucas is.
Also the person who said look what happened to our team when Lucas was missing. are you people r*******
? Of course we are missing a player, a holding midfielder the best WE have and this will hurt the team, that doesn't make him exceptional.
He is an average player, good at his position but nothing exceptional.
It will be far better if someone better occupied this position instead of Lucas. Can we find such a player? Difficult, because we can't attract the best right now. But if we want to chase top 4, Lucas is not the man.

18 Jul 2013 17:56:31
sorry to bother you eds just a quick one if you have the time, what is the situation with papiss cisse, I'm a massive fan think he would be a good signing for us. He is obviously on his way out of Newcastle due to the jersey sponser . Have we ever shown any interest and if not where might he end up. Thanks in advance {Ed002's Note - I am not aware of interest from Liverpool.}

18 Jul 2013 17:34:17
Ed's, surely we don't need a competition for starting keeper? Clearly Mignolet is the future, so why not sell Reina and sign promising understudy to Mignolet? Or does Reina really have that much to teach him?

I love Reina, but I don't see us using two top keepers. Perhaps this will be transition year with plan for reina to leave next season, but surely his transfer fee will drop by next year. {Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}

18 Jul 2013 17:14:02
Fantastic work eds. Hope you guys are doing great. My question is specifically for Ed001 or Ed002. Not a rumour but was curious about something, and was wondering with your knowledge if you can explain in simple terms, if possible.

In case a player hands in a written transfer request, what are the financial implications in the context of player contract? Is there any difference in the case if the club sells the player without a transfer request?

NYCRed {Ed002's Note - 5% of the transfer fee will be paid to the player by the selling club if he does not request a transfer. Hence Suarez trying to get the £2M out of Liverpool.}

Is this 5% the oft-talked about 'loyalty bonus' or is that a separate item that could be in the player's contract for some amount above and beyond the 5%? {Ed002's Note - This is the regulatory requirement - if the club decide to put further amounts in a contract it is on a case-by-case basis.}

Eds, is this why ibrahimovic keeps moving? so he can get more money from transfers? {Ed002's Note - No.}

19 Jul 2013 11:09:16
thanks, Ed002.

And I'll follow-up with a question you might not know the answer to- any idea if Suarez has any such add'l loyalty bonus in his contract on top of the 5%? {Ed002's Note - I don't know.}

18 Jul 2013 17:06:44
Hello Ed's.

Do you think there is a possibility that Suarez could decide not join up with the team on the tour to further show his intent on leaving?

The news/rumour about Pere Guardiola and LFC disagreeing about the interpretation of the 40 million clause seems to suggest that things might start getting ugly.

I just wish this saga could be put to bed now but can see this dragging on and Suarez causing more trouble in order to force his way out of the club.

Logan

I think it'll be interesting to see if Suarez shows up in Australia or not. Wouldn't surprise me if he didn't to be honest.

Does anyone know if Guardiola and crew really believe that Suarez's contract allows him to leave automatically on 40M+ bids? I've seen the reports that they believe this is the case, but there was nothing to substantiate it (i.e. I've not seen a direct quote from Guardiola saying that LFC are misinterpreting Suarez's contract).

Well he is banned for the opening six matches of the new season so he may decide to tell the club not expect him back at all. What will the club do in a situation like that?

Logan {Ed002's Note - This has been done to death. RTP.}

18 Jul 2013 16:33:03
quick question. with Suarez being banned at the beginning of the season, is he able to play matches with the reserves during that time to keep his match fitness levels up or is training the only way for him to stay fit? {Ed002's Note - No.}

Sorry ed but what did you say no to? Playing with reserves or training? {Ed002's Note - You are kidding right?}

Suarez is banned from partaking in any competitive fixture while the ban is in place.

Our pre season games and training sessions are not viewed as competitive fixtures.

; )

The A man.

18 Jul 2013 16:04:14
Now I would have preferred Klopp as a coach (I know he turned us down) and I was seriously annoyed at Brendans appointment I thought he was no way in the class and calibre of the Peeligrini's, Ancelotti's and Biesla's of this world, and it would be a long time before we were challenging for honours again, but I have to say i'm warming to the guy. He's respectful of the football club and our fans, his transfer acquisitions have been near enough spot on Sturridge, Coutinho, Aspas, MIgnolet, Toure and he's playing some decent possession football. I'm sure he's a fast learner and will rectify mistakes made last season i.e When plan A isn't working, stick to Plan A. I think he will add a bit more diversity to the play this season and I honestly think that a winger will arrive to enable diversity. i'm excited at the young and talented team he's assembling and I seriously think in two years time well be challenging for the Premiership with a young, talented squad that play the Brendan way. These kids need time, they need to play together and the right tutelage and I think Brendans the guy to do it. i'm confident we'll be Champions soon but not before City, United Arsenal, Chelsea win a title or two first. The future is Scouse Red. Forza Rogers!

I agree with most of that but I do think plan A will just be better and more effective this year rather than having a plan B.

MIKEY

Yes it is

In your dreams!

Disney!

Decent post mate. I too wasn't too optimistic when Rodgers came in but it didn't take me long to start to like the guy. He knows what he is doing and we are on the right track but like you say it will be another couple of seasons before we are ready to challenge for the title.

Red Rum

Yes Mickey your right but against the teams like Stoke who will 'park the bus' and use roughhouse tactics I feel we need to be a bit more authodox rather than pass it through them, we can't afford to over intellectualise our play. Fergie was a hopeless tactician and was 442 most of his career and he didn't do to badly. just my opinion anyway

I feel the acquisition of toure will more than help with the more physical of teams like Stoke. We won't be bullied in the box anywhere near as much. Skrtle looks big and hard but he used to just fall over.
That's what I mean by plan A will work more often because the players we are bringing in will cope better.
Just my opinion anyway.

MIKEY

Agreed Red Rum!

The A man.

18 Jul 2013 15:48:22
Hi All

I live in Jakarta. If you read LFC website about LFC arrival in Jakarta, I can tell you that the welcome reception of Liverpool is far more spectacular than Arsenal last week. There are about 3,000 fans at the airport and surroundings, Arsenal only 500 fans. At Hotel, there are about 500 fans roaming at hotel everyday (today is day 2) just want to see players, take photo and get signature. Hotel staffs are really busy to control them. Some of them even sleep in car and many fans wear LFC jersey sit on the street near hotel. I come to hotel today and it's amazing to see Gerrard, Agger, Coutinho and others go to the bus to have a training session. I will go to hotel again tomorrow until I can take photo with Stevie. I'm very happy to finally can watch them live in my country after 20 years supporting them. Liverpool will beat Arsenal and Chelsea next week in term of number of match attendees and enthusiasm.

Jonas

Thats what we like to hear. All Liverpool fans across the world Unite and gel for the team no matter where your from or where youve come from your always a welcomed Red

Dragon3383

That's proper commitment from a proper fan there.
Still shocks me to hear all the persons who say you can't support Liverpool unless your local, these fans abroad do a lot more than just cross the road to support the club.

MIKEY

Ynwa jonas
Lfc linc

And some would these guy are not real fans cause they Are not scouse.

Sounds like you guys are having the time of your lives. Would love to see that kinda passion At anfield once or twice this season

Hope you get as many photos and autographs as you want with all the players you want.

If you see borini tell him he is your favourite player and that you think that this season will be huge for him. Think he could do with a confidence boost.

Thanks dragon and mickey. We are not glory hunter when supporting Liverpool, its about love and passion.

Nice to see so much support from all over the world.

YNWA fella.

Red Rum

This is the true measure of a true footballing institution. Liverpool football club is enormous, no it's bigger it's biblical. It's great to see the fans being able to see their superstar players past and present in the flesh and for the players to really feel appreciated and loved world over by the fans and for the fans to get a little something back is really great and must encourage the lads to gel even more and push on like a unit and fight for places and cups.

All the footage i've seen gives off a joyful carnival feel that must be hugely exciting and electric to experience. I saw Fowler, Rush and Didi start the singing off to YNWA on the LFC tour videos and that was top notch performance. It's a great time to be a Liverpool fan, the silver lining is ever closing and creeping through the stormy clouds above and we will all be singing together on that fine day.

YNWA

Enjoy yourself Jonas. You'll have a great time brother.

Love and Respect to you all.

Alfie

Thanks Lfc linc, kumber, red rum. Will tell borini to score 20 next season. Btw Downing is loved there, there's a banner said 'downing don't go'

18 Jul 2013 15:20:54
Great we've now lost out on Florent malouda. This window just gets better and better

FSG and Brendan out! Lol

MIKEY

Oh no, not another loss. sack the manager, string up the owners. he he!

You tool get a grip man

We lost out on Lebron James too. Apparently he wants to go back to Cleveland. Rodgers can't land any of our targets!

E.T turned us down as well fella.
He wanted to go home>>>>>>>>>
PISSING MYSELF HERE!
Ok I have had a couple.

18 Jul 2013 15:20:02
Hi Eds,

If the Liverpool squad was to stay as it is now with no more signings or outgoings, do you think the squad would be good enough for a top four finish?

Marc {Ed002's Note - No.}

I wouldn't ask a Chelsea fan! {Ed002's Note - You might want to go and see what I said last season rather than try some embarrassing dig.}

Well i'm a Liverpool fan an its pretty obvious it wouldn't be good enough we'd need atleast 1 or 2 top quality players let's say for example papadopoulos and shaqiri keep suarez then yes 3rd or 4th would easily be on the cards

Why would u even ask that question? It's clear for all to see we are nowhere near good enough for top 4 right now. Skrtle needs to go and be replaced we need CDM cover we need to replace downing on the right we need a good LW or a CAM and put coutinho LW we need a LB for cover or to replace Enrique if we do all that over the next 2 windows we'll be top 4 maybe even tittle challengers! But not now we simply don't have 100m to spend we have about 25/30!

I asked the question as I wanted to know the Eds opinions. If you have a problem with the question, then why reply?

I am sick and tired of all the negativity surrounding Liverpool. It's not all doom and gloom.

I think we will suprise people this year and we will finish not fourth but third.

Marc

18 Jul 2013 16:33:40
Why don't you just ignore the post if you don't like the response.
Do you really think our squad is capable of challenging for 4th?
Because I am a LFC fan and I reckon the best we can achieve with this squad is 6th and that is if we play really well.

Personally, I do think we are capable of challenging for 4th or even better. It's not going to be easy, but it's certainly feasible that we could. We were what, 3rd from January on last season? The team is largely the same now except with even greater depth. I don't expect we'll win the league nor in my opinion are we probably in the top 4, but I certainly wouldn't say we have no chance or that we're 'nowhere near good enough'.

Realistically we're somewhere around 5th in turnover and wages (or were last I checked) and I don't think people seem to appreciate how much more money the teams above us generate than we do (United is at double our revenue, for example). So, an honest assessment would say 5th is about where we should be but there is absolutely nothing to say that we can't overperform (like Everton have done last few seasons) and perhaps pip a spot or three above where we are financially.

No simply because our defence wouldn't he good enough going forward sturtidge suarez coutimho gerrard one of best going forward in league better keeper for next season so defence not good enough johnson NO enrique no skrtel no agger yes. 3 defenders in my opinion which ain't going to happen

We aren't good enough for top four by some margin, and talk of us missing out on players like Mkhitaryan and Eriksen are wide of the mark, I honestly don't think we made a bid in the first place. So looks like we're stuck with the likes of Downing and Allen. (Could be worse though suppose it could be piechnik, Kozma, Stewart or Diouf, Cheyrou and Diao. ).

18 Jul 2013 15:05:23
Hai Ed. This is Craazzyyyyy.

PSG President :". If barca Pays Thiago Buyout clause. then I would Pay Messi. "

Didn't anzhi meet it before? He's not going to leave {Ed002's Note - This is just posturing. They are trying to warn Barcelona off Thiago Silva.}

Then Thiago would be playing with Messi next season, both for Barca of course

18 Jul 2013 14:52:39
Pls BR just sign us a marquee signing!

Can I ask why like that's the stupidest thing I heard all day seriously just sign a player with a big name instead a trying to sign a good good player value for money so on so on you just want a marquee signing doesn't make sense its not fifa

Exacty why just buy a player just because they are proven top class quality?

Look at borini a world class center forward for a snip hopefully real madrid don't pounce on deadline day for him

Nothing wrong with wanting the best. Morale would be huge if we signed say Jovetic. Not so much if it was a value for money signing like say Nathan Dyer.

Why must we buy a big tent?

Marquee signings are expensive and we don't have that kind of money nor the draw of CL. Liverpool are fifth in revenue and wages (or were last I checked) so a logical conclusion is that's about where we should be in the table. We may over perform that but people need to understand that clubs like United make literally twice as much as we do annually so things are going to be tough, but that doesn't mean it's impossible either. I don't see the likes of Everton, Newcastle, Swansea, etc. just throwing their hands in the air and bemoaning their fate since they don't have the amount of money we do- they simply get on with it and try to do the best they can.

Would you be happy with a Gazebo instead?

18 Jul 2013 14:28:30
Borini will be sold if an acceptable offer is made. There is interest from Italy but no bid has been made at this time. If he goes Kevin Gameiro will replace him. Reports are saying Gameiro will go to Sevilla but Liverpool are monitoring the progress closely. Only issue is that Gameiro will want to play as it is a World Cup year, and with Negredo leaving he will have a better chance at Sevilla than Liverpool.

18 Jul 2013 14:52:23
There are absolutly no one who would bid borini for more than 8 mill.

18 Jul 2013 14:53:31
I would personally loved this to happen.
He has been a very good quality player with PSG, scored goals whenvere he was given chance and at 7 mill. he would be a steal.

I am also very much a Gameiro fan.He is in the Sturridge Coutinho Situation were he's not getting regular games at PSG.I think we have been interested in him for a while and when he's made available we will be in for him.

Fiorentina are rumored to be interested in him. Jovetic will be moving on and the fiore are looking to pair Borini with Gomez. Borini will do well in Italy as he is a quality player. He just hasn't been able to put it together at Liverpool.

18 Jul 2013 14:11:59
There's some talk that Thomas Vermaelen may be let go this transfer window or the next. If we happen to lose Agger, any chance we'd be interested in him? {Ed002's Note - No idea.}

Vermaelen would be the best player available to replace Agger if he were to leave.

Red Rum

18 Jul 2013 13:49:13
Haven't been on here for a while, but I've just had a quick scan over the last few days and I notice that Disney donut hasn't been chattin bubbles on these pages, what's up lad? Got your own striker problems have we? Good start from Moysie aswell, you have genuine problems at your club at the minute so your obviously a bit preoccupied, what's the saying now. oh yes that's it, WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND. ha ha ha ;)

Waro

Well until we fail to win the league for over a quarter of a century I'm sorry but we won't quite feel your pain ;)

HB (not Disney sorry)

18 Jul 2013 13:13:49
If reports are to be believed, Real Madrid value Higuain at £37m, value Suarez at £25m, but want to sell Higuain and repalce him with (in there opinion, the better player) Suarez. Get your head around that one!

Although we are guilty of this. We want to sell Skrtel for £15m, and sign the better player Papadopoulos, but will not pay over £15m for him. My god, the logic in football is hurting my head; only 3 hours and 15 minutes till I can hit the pub and drink till everything makes sense!

All these values touted by the media, you have to be careful reading too much into these situations as fans because agents release rumours etc. to manipulate the media to their own advantage.

As the eds have said time and time again, a player is only worth what a club will pay for him.

Rubbish a player also has a market value think of it like property you can't walk into a posh neighbourhood and pick up a 4 bed house for whatever u like

18 Jul 2013 12:51:02
Got a crap job in Liverpool and would love a move to either Spain or Italy. I am cheap but have no potential. Hi could you fix it for me?

Sorry Mr Martinez, you have a job to complete here first.

Feel free to win the FA cup again on your way though!

Marshy

Roberto it was your choice, you could have stayed in Wigan, but the dull lights of Woodison drew you like a moth to a flame.

You again! I fixed it for you years ago.
J.Saville

Sounds like you're already in the right place to me

18 Jul 2013 12:58:12
Real Madrid values Higuain at 35 mill?
You kidding me. I know he is a great striker. one of the top best.
But If there is any player right now whom you wanna buy with 40 mill. It has to be suarez.
Absolute no one. He is miles better than Hiiguain whose most goals has come in tap in from 6 yeards box.
Luis suarez would hit the target from anywhere.
he has created 89 scoring opportunities for Liverpool FC past seaosn. More than any player in Europe.

Arsene wenger knows this.

"Luis suarez would hit the target from anywhere"

Think you've been watching a different Luis Suarez to the rest of us!

LOL. Thought the same thing as the last poster. Suarez and Higuain have many different attributes between them, but implying that Suarez is a better finisher than Higuain is pretty out there.

18 Jul 2013 12:28:56
I know there's six weeks before the window shuts but is anyone else concerned that things have gone quiet.

Hi yes I would have to agree. I'm sure that BR and Ian Ayre are working behind the scenes on bringing in some extra faces (I know it isn't easy to this) BUT with every day that passes and seeing a variety of different names moving to and fro you do wonder just where our next signing is coming from.
It's one thing to keep everything hush hush and that's how it should be done. but could we be too hush hush and losing out on deals?
Interesting weeks lie ahead. if anything is clear and that is we need maybe 2 more players to help push us forward. and if Suarez goes then god only know 3-4 required?
Red Dal

Are we meant to sign someone every day?

We've already signed 4 players who look very likely to be in the match day 18 and likely 3 of them being in the starting 11. That's already a pretty big change and it would seem a few more incoming as well. It's entirely possible that we could have 6-7 new players in our match day squad next season. What more do you want- a whole new first team?

18 Jul 2013 12:16:00
Hey eds BR has said suarez is staying do you believe that to be so? has there been a change of heart on suarez's part? also hearing pacheco is off to celta vigo is this true? and any idea how much were looking to get for him? my guess is the fee would be minimal maybe 2-3m. thanks eds and great work as always. CRAIG {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

18 Jul 2013 12:00:59
Hopefully Eriksen will go to Milan, and Coutinho will play through the middle next season, would far rather we spent the money on a winger

Super

Agree if we buy Bernard then he could play on either wing, also i'm hoping with Coutinho playing behind Sturridge as that allows Sterling & Ibe to compete for the left flank.

18 Jul 2013 12:52:34
well said super totally agree rw has been a problem for at a guess 10years.tommy Irish Red

18 Jul 2013 13:02:37
Finally! Someone who agrees with me.

Aspas should be the right forward, Coutinho in the No.10 role, a new left forward (Shaquiri/ Dzuduszak/ Ince/Sanchez etc) and Sturridge as the main main.

Then we have Sterling, Ibe, Downing, Henderson, Alberto, Borini, Texeira and Yesil to cover. I don't know why everyone seems so hell bent on signing Eriksen AND Bernard so Coutinho gets given the 'ghost shift' (for info, read Gerrards book) and Aspas sits on the bench. Eriksen is no better than Coutinho, and Bernard no better than Aspas, plus he is a very expensive gamble. When Suarez is sold, we need 1 more attacker to be our first choice left forward. We have reported interest in Shaquiri, previous interest in Ince & Dzuduszak and a few of the Eds have hinted that Sanchez is an outside possibility if Suarez is sold.

We will likely see sold; Reina, (maybe Skrtel OR Agger), Coates, Spearing, Pacheco, Assaidi, Suarez

Then we will seek suitable replacements. 1/2 centre backs, 1 midfeilder, 1 forward and maybe 1 left back.

If I could dream, I'd have Ilori, Papadopoulos (If Skrtel goes), Alonso, Shaquiri and Moreno. That would be the ideal end to my summer anyway.

Bernard not much better than Aspas?

Agree with most of your post and as good as Aspas is he is nowhere near as talented as Bernard.

In saying that I think Bernard would be an expensive gamble in the PL, Aspas looks ready made for our league as well tbh.

Ya I agree with Super too. I'd like one really good winger (R or L is fine, preferably someone who could play both but otherwise more so LW)

Agreed with the above. Let Coutinho play CAM, Sturridge striker, Aspas to the right coming in on that left foot. Sort the left wing/forward position with a quality player and seems like a very dangerous attacking quartet to me.

18 Jul 2013 11:33:47
Liverpool have made a £12million bid for Schalke defender Kyriakos Papadopoulos according to reports in Germany, Schalke are reviewing the bid but will likely ask Liverpool to increase their offer with the 21-year-old boasting an £19million release clause.

18 Jul 2013 11:12:42
Hy Ed its been dissapointing there is nothing happening
In transfer window for lfc. Do our business end or u expect
Any more arrivals. Without selling suarez.
And any outgoings u expect.
Thanx {Ed052's Note - No, we haven't signed anybody, its been awful.}

18 Jul 2013 10:56:01
Just looked at and they have eriksen to join Liverpool on 1/1 can you read anything into that eds?? {Ed052's Note - No}

18 Jul 2013 03:45:01
Hi Ed052, it's me again! Missed me? LOL.

Anyway, thanks for answering my question regarding what to make of Rodger's statement about improving the team from now to end of the window. However, I am still a little unsure what you meant by marquee signing. Are you implying that we are aiming for the more popular players that command bigger fees?

I for one have absolute faith in Brendan and his transfer committee, but I personally do not really believe in players that generally command higher fee. I mean they may be doing really well for their current team, but may be flops and pose as a greater financial risk to us. Now, I'm not saying that I will not be excited, just that in our current financial situation, I think careful spending is required.

Player names have been flying around a lot recently and most of them have been rubbished by you guys and you yourself also said that you would like the LW, LB and CDM (if my memory serves me well) position to be strengthened. So in your opinion, which are the players you think we may be linked in the coming weeks and who would be realistically wanting to sign for us and within budget?

I apologise for the long post and fellow Reds, your opinions are much appreciated. Cheers.

YWNA
Redken {Ed052's Note - I think we are looking at good players who will improve the team/first 11, but only if they are good deals, like Sturridge. I don't see us spending loads, on loads of top players.

18 Jul 2013 10:43:50
Eds, just wondering why no one has gone in for Fellaini, his buy out clause is relatively small considering how good he is. I thought he was certainly bound, but with all the rumours I doubt he will go there now. Would we consider a bid and would he be allowed to talk to us? I know the rivalry would normally prevent this, but surely he would be worth chasing as I rate him only second to yaya toure in the Prem. (Obviously Stevie G is in a league of his own).

Ben {Ed002's Note - They will go for him. There is a long way to go but Liverpool has shown no interest in him.}

Only a team playing in the cl can activate his realease clause it is part of the contract so no Everton have a rite to stop him going if LFC came in for him either way he would never cross over to the red side ever.

Overrated to the extreme, he goes missing all the time, sometimes his body language says he cba, his reading and tactical awareness is awful.

On his day he is a great player but most Evertonians would bite your arm off for 25m.

Baines is for me Evertons crown jewel.

18 Jul 2013 10:25:46
looks like ericksen is on his way to ac milan on r web site.Tommy Irish Red

18 Jul 2013 10:04:18
Good morning eds

Just wondering about Morata

Is he expected to be used as a makeweight for Suarez personally I would prefer Higuain as they still haven't offloaded him- is that an option?

Also how highly do you rate Morata would he start alongside sturridge?

Thanks for the great answers keep up the good work {Ed002's Note - Search function please.}

Real Madrid rate Higuain at £37m.

Do some of you even scan previous posts?

18 Jul 2013 09:49:04
Eds do you think we'll make an offer for either eriksen or bernard? {Ed002's Note - See previous answers. What we know has been said. I would not want to speculate on what might happen about bids.}

18 Jul 2013 09:46:59
Eriksen to Milan seems like it happening. Wonder who we are actually after, things a very tight and no info being leaked from Liverpools side, would love alonso, jorghinho and morata, not too sure bout Bernard could be a bit pricey
Nice to let the like of jorghinho and Alberto time to settle in with no pressure on them while alonso pulls the strings in midfield
Jeff

Wo wo wo, it's our perch and always has been. They have just been temporarily squatting there!

18 Jul 2013 09:08:55
Hi Eds,

Any chance of my created character on Fifa coming to Anfield this season? He's someone I've watched a lot and seems to be performing well, scoring for fun etc.

He'd make a great signing!

Whats his name?

Scoring own goals for fun maybe

If his name doesn't end with some sort of inho then I don't think we should buy him

Obviously we should buy him he probably looks good on youtube and he could be expensive - the more expensive the better ;)

Exactly. I know a lot about football because I play career mode. He's been my top scorer so BR should go in for him, and all the other players I've signed and that are good on Fifa.

18 Jul 2013 08:28:18
Obviously unlikely but if we could secure Bernard and Eriksen I would liken our attacking midfielders to Chelsea's trip of Oscar mata and hazard and a bit younger too! That would be brilliant and we would be scoring goals for fun

18 Jul 2013 07:53:02
Not Liverpool Related.

He said: "It's true that we're negotiating for Gonzalo Higuain and Leandro Damiao.

"The money we got for Cavani was 64.5mil and added to the 60mil we had set aside for the transfer budget there will be 124.5mil to carefully invest on Napoli.

"There are various names on the table, we're assessing the situation.

"(Albiol) is undergoing medical tests and we hope he passes them."

What the hell is happening at Napoli? {Ed002's Note - This is the summer when transfers take place - that is what they are doing. This summer will see record spending - you have been told that for a very long time.}

Must say fair play to Napoli's president he stood firm on the price he put on Cavani and now as he says they have 124.5M to spend, they have already brought in Callejon, Alboil looks likely and I think Damiao will defiantly end up there and if they add Higuain and maybe a good midfielder then they will be a big threat next season.

18 Jul 2013 10:26:53
Ed If the above deals go through.
Then with hamsik, higuain and diamio. that's a formidble front three.
Napoli going to be rith up there for the domestic and in Europe.
I wonder Rafa is adamanet to win another CL or Domestic title. {Ed002's Note - And Callejon.}

Looks like a bit of fantasy football going on in Naples. Maybe some of our "fans" should start learning Italian and start supporting them.
Good luck to Naples though, that city could do with cheering up, it's a dive.

MIKEY

18 Jul 2013 12:16:50
Mikey.

I don't think that's Fantasy, that's the way to spend your money wise.
Higuain and diamio is a solid adition. with hamsik in the squad and callegion is another proven player.

And to add most of the players they briong would have a pretty good resale value in 2-3 years.

And we struggled to sell our deadwoods when we had the money to Shape the squad 2 years back.

caroll, downing, adam, sahin.

18 Jul 2013 03:52:11
Hi eds, heard from an insider Liverpool will bid for Eriksen very very soon for a fee around GBP12.5mil and the lad seems to favour Liverpool and Agger plays his part in the persuasion. {Ed002's Note - They will need to be quick then.}

Why Ed any other team interested as well? {Ed002's Note - Milan.}

Hello Ed,
just seen the eriksen to AC Milan news now. Why is everything calm after the MK saga regarding LFC?
Do you reckon we just don't have any money or are struggling to identify targets.
Also heard 2 rumours please tell if true
1. Assaidi is close to a loan move to Feyenoord
2. LFC have accepted a 1.5 million pound bid from Blackburn for Spearing and now he is to speak to them regarding personal terms. (according to the mirror yesterday) {Ed002's Note - (1) Yes; (2) This is from last week He is not keen on the move.}

18 Jul 2013 01:42:59
Eds which players do u expect to leave on loan this season?Also is it still likely that reinawill leave this summer? {Ed002's Note - The loans were addressed yesterday by another Ed. There is a chance that Reina will leave.}

Reina, Skrtel & Downing all face being back ups earning way more than the guys with the jerseys. For that reason all could leave if a bid that matches Liverpool's valuation comes in. I still believe Assaidi and Coates will end up being loans out with view to permanent deals. Suarez and Skrtel cash pays for our targets.

Kidder

18 Jul 2013 00:34:44
How can Liverpool possibly sell Suarez to another top Premier League club. Fergie would never do it. Neither should we. Ridiculous if it happens.

I don't mind selling to other EPL teams if we get the result that we got with selling Torres, mega money and a player that struggles to hit the side of a barn these days :)

Jules In Australia

Been told that protest will happen if he is sold to arsenal. {Ed002's Note - Pitiful.}

Because a PL club would offer 10m more than a foreign one right now. And the player wants to leave. Keeping someone as unpredictable as LS against his will would overshadow our whole season.

Kidder

So what if fergie would do it he gone, fed up of it, u should be asking would paisley, rafa do it

Who cares what Fergie would do! You act like you have an inferiority complex!

I think a protest is never going to happen get real please

18 Jul 2013 09:45:33
I rarely feel the need to post a reply but on this occasion I feel I have no choice, and this is not only directed at the original poster but for many who share his thoughts and I will state now at the start I mean no disrespect nor do I mean to be demeaning in any way shape or form.

The crap that is spouted about not selling to teams in the same league is just that CRAP! Transfers between english clubs have occurred since the league was formed, some of our very own success has been the result of transfers in and out of the club with the players only moving to or coming from english teams. People need to adjust their thinking and attitudes towards our club and its success. This isn't achieved by trying to weaken the opposition or buy their best players from them, its done by our club, the choices we make the way we perform, the way LFC play the way LFC train.

Thinking that what we achieve is the result of others failures or triumphs will never lead to us being at the top of our game that's up to us. All clubs in the EPL will always try to buy within the league and sell within the league and its been that way for over a hundred years. So please stop being so simple minded and naive and start to think logically and realistically about things.

Who cares if arsenal buy suarez, that doesn't hand them the title or condemn us to mid-table, we as a club with the players we choose to put on the pitch determine that no one else. Chin up lads we will get to the top again and it might not be this season it could be next or the one after but we don't lose hope we don't stop dreaming and we never stop believing.

Been told that protest will happen if he is sold to arsenal.

-----------------------------------

I heard the same apparently the Arsenal fans are in uproar.

Fergie would never sell a player to another EPL club?

Tim Howard - Everton
Phil Bardsley - Sunderland
Ryan Shawcross - Stoke
Darron Gibson - Everton
Carlos Tevez - Man City

Fergie would have kicked a boot at his head or something by now. He took no messing from his players, I just hope Brendan has a similar sized pair.

MIKEY

18 Jul 2013 11:41:40
Don't be ridiculous. In any form of business you never strengthen your direct rivals. You have to be ruthless to be successful.So if hypothetically Arsenal sign Suarez and finish fourth a point in front of us, what would you say then. Sell him to any club but not ones in direct competition with us. Its common sense.

17 Jul 2013 23:24:42
Just wondering, would people accept 15mil and Rooney for Suarez? Obviously not saying it would happen, just curious?

Jak

Only if we could then immediately turn around and sell him to Chelsea.

What is the fascination with Rooney, He is just not the player he used to be. and he is an Evertonian.and last I checked we didn't care much for the blue noses!

Why you would want Rooney anywhere near the club is beyond me. He was pretty good in '04 but that's a long time ago now.
Nah just watch and enjoy while Moyes stuffs everything up at OT.
Hop