Liverpool Banter Archive July 18 2017

18 Jul 2017 23:42:20
Ynwa Lucas . My favourite player for so many reasons.

19 Jul 2017 08:29:20
I'm hoping he can return and do some sort of coaching role with Gerrard and the youngsters, them two bringing the youngsters through would be fantastic.

{Ed025's Note - unfortunately teabag being a good player does not automatically make you a good coach mate..

19 Jul 2017 08:51:57
True ed25 mate, your not wrong.

18 Jul 2017 21:09:47
Ed's can you shed any light as to why the camera crew were staring?

{Ed002's Note - The girl had Hemorrhoids - move on.}

18 Jul 2017 23:11:05
Remember those who slagged off Lucus. You were wrong and so are those who constantly slag off the likes of Clyde. He is not the greatest but he is a Liverpool player who I think plays to the best of his ability. Just like Lucus. This is the best squad we have had for years. Balance of youth, talent and wisdom. Get behind the team. Yes I'd like a few more players in key positions but I would be equally happy to see Gomez improve and grucic develop.

19 Jul 2017 01:19:11
Difference is Lucas to the best of his abilities in his prime was good enough to be a first team player. Unfortunately Clyne as hard as he tries is not good enough right now.

19 Jul 2017 01:36:36
Right turn Clyde or right back Clyne?

19 Jul 2017 07:59:34
Both have or had enough in them to be good enough. I mean look at the equivelent defence and midfield players that won the league with LCFC 2 seasons ago?! It would be hard so argue that either would not have got into that team. It's a team game I will always say and feel that and if there is the right on field chemistry, the right management tactic, and the right player attitudes, the next a group of very decent players without one world class player included can succeed. Personally I think we are on a decent track and as unfortunate as it is that Lucas did the right thing for him to get regular games (because he'd have still been a decent squadie and a respected one too) I think Clyne will continue to improve and develop with team chemistry and managerial tactic all in the right direction. And then there is a certain young right back that can push him all the way.

18 Jul 2017 22:39:39
Evening eds

Any update on outgoings or incomings please? Bit quite last few days.

What you got for us please🤔.

{Ed002's Note - You are right, it has been an exciting time.}

18 Jul 2017 18:12:26
Question for the Eds. Who do you think is the best captain in the premier league?

{Ed002's Note - Tommy Smith of Huddersfield.}

18 Jul 2017 22:28:20
If klopp was told we would break the bank for Keita or vvd but could only get one, who would it be?
For me Keita, purely because I believe he can be special - I don't think vvd will be, although we could probably use a CB more than a CM! Tough one!

18 Jul 2017 22:46:49
He'd have to go for NK but who know's.

18 Jul 2017 22:47:30
We should get both! We decided to go through the cheap options for LB and pushed a youngster to play at RB, if the club couldn't afford 3 first team players then that's it! I am ready to sacrifice Lallana!

18 Jul 2017 22:51:39
A really tough call!

i would go for Kieta.
There is still a number of intelligent/ decent CB's in the
Market. But Kieta's skill set is rare!

18 Jul 2017 23:01:15
VVD for me. I think improving the defence is more pressing.

18 Jul 2017 23:03:03
Agreed, Keita. Give Gomez a go, don't go splashing out 70 mil on a CB before giving Gomez a chance who could himself become a 70 mil player in a few years.

18 Jul 2017 23:29:35
For me it would be keita, even though we need a cb more. This is because if we miss out on keita this year everyone and their dog will want him for under 50 mil next year whereas I believe we have more chance of getting VVD next year out of the 2.

18 Jul 2017 23:30:53
It all depends on who you trust more; Lovren or Henderson. Personally I'd rather see Henderson in the midfield than Lovren in the defence.

18 Jul 2017 23:44:39
Hendersons place is not under threat.

18 Jul 2017 21:30:44
Just a little extra from Lucas open letter I thought was particularly note worthy.

"Off the pitch, I was honoured to become a trustee of the LFC Foundation and got to see at first hand the work they do in the local community. When I celebrated being at Liverpool for a decade recently, it meant a lot to hear some of the children who the Foundation has helped describe me as a Scouser.

I might not have won as many trophies as I would have liked during my time here but to have people talk about me in that way means as much as any medal. "

Says everything about the man.

You were a model professional, survived a torrent of abuse early on, earned the respect of all and proved to be a fantastic part of the team. All the best to you.

18 Jul 2017 23:10:31
My view of the man, already sky high, has just gone up again.

18 Jul 2017 22:54:03
Lovely bloke, model professional and welcome at Anfield any time because of his efforts.

19 Jul 2017 02:03:47
Lucas is a gentleman with a big heart.
He is a father who can relate to kids,
He took his responsibilities to the foundation as as important as playing football.
you hear them kids calling him one of their own because you can't fool them.

Compare Lucas against superstars El Hadj Diouf and Super Mario Ballotelli.

There is only one of them with TRUE CLASS.

YNWA LUCAS.

18 Jul 2017 21:20:11
Didnt think jon flanagan would be our longest serving player.

18 Jul 2017 22:05:58
Who's second to him? minds gone blank.

18 Jul 2017 23:05:06
Must be Hendo? Then Studge and Couts?

18 Jul 2017 23:10:58
Hendo.

18 Jul 2017 23:12:59
Its hendo but don't know who is after him.

19 Jul 2017 01:05:03
I'm pretty sure it's coutinho after hendo.

19 Jul 2017 02:05:24
I hop I'm wrong but He mightn't be for long.

18 Jul 2017 20:01:38
PSG want to sign Coutinho so badly, they are going to pay nearly £200m for Neymar so he can be used to tap him up on international duty!

18 Jul 2017 20:15:21
I have a feeling Barcelona losing Neymar could maybe make Barcelona make a push to sign Coutinho now?

18 Jul 2017 20:17:46
PSG buying Neymar is a good thing for us! They get Neymar, while Barcelona get the money to buy Verratti ( their first choice ) and Coutinho stays!

18 Jul 2017 20:21:15
Had me in stitches there, MK.

18 Jul 2017 20:38:59
FYI,

Barcelona's first choice target is MARCO VERRATTI.

18 Jul 2017 21:07:17
Cheers Naby! Seems you altered your incorrectly spelt name for us all too.

18 Jul 2017 21:12:15
@Welsh

Did you like Ding Dong?

18 Jul 2017 21:30:01
Brussels, I think sarcasm is dead in the modern world 😂.

18 Jul 2017 21:41:59
The Neymar transfer is gathering a lot of pace I can see that going through so that might mean the end to Couts.

18 Jul 2017 21:55:40
Neymar is going nowhere.

18 Jul 2017 22:24:01
As a front three I don't see them start Messi Suarez and one of the players they currently have. I think they will be buy big for a winger - I don't think they see couts as a winger though.
Find it odd they sell Neymar though, as he is going to improve and the other two decline, now would be the time to cash in.

18 Jul 2017 19:48:02
I thought I will held back my tears when Lucas leave. But I couldn't after reading his farewell note (god I m still crying its difficult to type) . Its painful to lost such a loyal servant of club. I just hope he will came back to club in some capacity after his retirement. Can't type anymore ;- (
YNWA Lucas.

18 Jul 2017 20:16:27
I hope the club does the decent thing and gives him a testimonial in the near future.

18 Jul 2017 20:29:19
He had one last year.

18 Jul 2017 22:15:23
You can tell his heart is in the right place and he's leaving for genuine reasons. It feels like breaking up with a long term girlfriend when he says he wanted to stay for the rest of his career. All the best to the lad, if he gives Lazio what he gave us he will become a hero for them aswel.

18 Jul 2017 18:27:30
Lucas Leiva.
Thanks for the memories, and all the best to you and your family in Roma.
You'll never ever walk alone.

18 Jul 2017 18:44:08
An all round nice guy and it's been a privilege to watch you serve Liverpool FC all the best in your new quest and if the Lazio fans love you half as much as us you will be in the right hands.

18 Jul 2017 19:53:12
He will be back some day!

18 Jul 2017 18:08:24
Confirmed Lucas has completed his transfer to Lazio.

18 Jul 2017 16:43:23
Evening Eds. Sky are reporting that Robertson has flown home from Hull's training camp to meet with representatives from Liverpool. Is this correct?

Thanks.

{Ed025's Note - apparently so nick..

18 Jul 2017 17:22:19
Thanks Ed25.

18 Jul 2017 17:38:31
Haven't been this excited since we signed Klavan.

18 Jul 2017 19:47:27
I'd say your a bundle of joy Reaper.

18 Jul 2017 22:27:06
Surely he should have met with our reps before he flew out, something's gone wrong with this one.

18 Jul 2017 16:20:13
Was going to same the same thing. The full back is going to be special. Time to repair the damage with Fulham before he becomes available!

18 Jul 2017 16:06:43
Afternoon all,

So far this summer we have signed Salah and Solanke. Very happy with both signings, we needed someone with Salah's attributes, as we struggled without Mane last season. The prospect of both Salah and Mane at the same time is really exciting. Solanke has a lot of potential and will hopefully get some opportunities to impress.

It looks like Andrew Robertson is almost there. Firstly he is a proper left back so that can only be a good thing. He is naturally left footed and is decent going forward. There are question marks over him defensively but he is young and can only get better. Not a bad signing at all and potentially a bargain.

Very sad to see Lucas leaving as he has been a very loyal and hardworking player. He never had it easy and has taken some abuse over the years. Hopefully he will get the testimonial he deserves. However the timing was right for both the player and the club to go their separate ways.

Hopefully we can recoup some decent money on the sales of Moreno, Markovich and Sakho etc.

If we can get Naby Keita and Virgil Van Dijk then it will be a great summer and we will have a squad capable of challenging on all fronts.

I know it is frustrating for the fans when deals for the likes of Keita and Van Dijk drag on, but we have to be realistic these are top class players and their clubs are going to fight tooth and nail to keep them.

I am an optimist and still believe we will sign both of them and it may very well take the players having to put in transfer requests and us breaking our transfer record twice.

All in all things are looking positive we are back where we belong in the Champions League, have a top class manager and a young and talented squad.

18 Jul 2017 16:23:47
Hard to disagree on anything you've put there. Good, positive post.

18 Jul 2017 16:44:57
Good read jj.

18 Jul 2017 16:51:21
Thanks captain obvious.

{Ed025's Note - dont be so miserable richie..

18 Jul 2017 17:23:54
Sometimes we forget that most fans see life as JJ has, realistic.

We get too caught up in our day to day bubble of extremes to be able to sit back and lucidly, and sensibly review progress.

An excellent read, JJ my friend. I agree with all of it :)

18 Jul 2017 17:24:03
Hahaha soz ed just so tired of people repeating the obvious and rehashing twitter posts like its fresh news, 'my sources say' what sources? Tiresome nonsense, titsquirrels everywhere.

{Ed025's Note - i think you should be a bit more positive thats all mate..

18 Jul 2017 18:01:14
But the OP is not doing that, Richie.

The way I read it, he's just giving his own personal view and assessment of the window.

Pretty much what the 'banter' section is for.

18 Jul 2017 19:58:53
Not a fan!

18 Jul 2017 14:19:00
Sounds like Sheyi Ojo has joined Fulham on loan. Unexpected, but that could be a decent move for him. Fulham are a top Championship side who could very well earn promotion this year. Not to mention, this could help smooth over the whole Dempsey tapping up fiasco. Maybe even go some way into helping us bring in Ryan Sessegnon next season.

Good move, I think. Hopefully Ojo impresses and can force Klopp into having a change of heart because I honestly don't believe our boss rates Ojo. Personally, I think Ojo will be worth the wait, as long as he puts his head down and works hard, and impresses in the Championship. We either get a new, improved winger next season. Or, a capable and impressive young star who can be sold for a decent amount of money. I'm hoping for the latter, but, if Klopp keeps buying attacking players I do not see a way through for him. Best to keep all options open in that case.

18 Jul 2017 14:26:42
We shouldn't be doing any business with Fulham 😡.

18 Jul 2017 14:26:54
Trying to sweeten Fulham up so we can sign sessegnon next summer?

18 Jul 2017 14:31:55
Well if Ojo is moving to Fulham then why can't a Sessengnon deal happen in this window, even if it means him staying there for the season. Makes sense to me.

18 Jul 2017 14:32:30
predicted yesterday in a thread about him 💁🏼‍♂️.

18 Jul 2017 14:42:45
Well done JEZZA! 👏👏

You win the "PutneyRed I told you so award for July 2017"

🏆🏆👍.

18 Jul 2017 14:46:20
Kiss and make up with Fulham Ron, good idea I think.

18 Jul 2017 14:54:49
I thought Fulham's initial response, whilst justified, was a bit childish. If they don't want to do business with us then we should respect that and tell them to go away.

18 Jul 2017 15:07:57
Agreed Ron, happy to do business when it suits them!

Baz.

18 Jul 2017 15:08:22
Ron, see I don't have to say it off you say it for me 😀.

18 Jul 2017 15:10:27
I agree with Ron! Why would they want to do a business with us if they don't want to sell their players to us? I would have send him to Rafa instead and play PL rather than U23 which is what Championship is. Stepping down the league for what PATCHING UP!

18 Jul 2017 16:24:14
Ok I get that fair point lad's.

18 Jul 2017 16:27:03
This is crazy. Fulham did nothing wrong and have every right not to sell their own players to us is if they wish. They own their registration and that is their right.

We (illegally) tapped up Clint Dempsey and were caught out. We are the club in the wrong, so we should be trying to put it right. The football world does not revolve around LFC, regardless of how popular we are.

18 Jul 2017 17:45:23
tbf we on the wrong on dempsey so maybe we should just be the bigger man (club) and improve our relationship and image?

its a good move for ojo so why not?

18 Jul 2017 19:20:00
Apot on Kaizer. Ron, I rarely disagree with you, but if we believe the move is good for Ojo, it can only be the mature thing to do to mend fences with Fulham. We gain nothing by mulishness. If this is the new CEO's doing then fair play to him, I say.

18 Jul 2017 13:47:09
Forest fans seem to think they have a chance of signing ings on loan. surely he wouldn't drop into the championship, and if he did wouldn't it be a decent team hed go to .?

18 Jul 2017 15:11:35
Forest are a sleeping giant and have just been taken over if I remember rightly. They have just sold a forward so are on the look out for a replacement. I think Ings would flourish at Forest on a season loan with a big championship club, maybe help them take strides to were they belong.

Baz.

18 Jul 2017 15:28:14
I agree think it would be a great move for ings.

18 Jul 2017 15:44:25
With maybe dad being a forest fan, I told him I go should go to forest on loan next season to help build his confidence. Which would be beneficial for us as well as forest because they'd be getting a very good striker in ings. Would be more useful him playing in championship most weeks than playing for our u23's imo.

18 Jul 2017 16:44:43
I'd like to see Ings in a forest jersey, I'm Liverpool through and through but Nottm Forest are my birth place team.
He'd be the main man and i think it'll help him a lot.

{Ed025's Note - aiden mcgeady would be the main man in that forest team K9, they are awful and i would not wish that on danny mate..

18 Jul 2017 17:26:35
I think Forest could really kick on this year. Brit Assombolonga leaving was a bit of a loss due to his goals but I think DI will fit much better into Warbuton's playing style. Forest have a good manager in Warburton and some good rising stars to watch out for. Ben Brereton (FW) and Joe Worrall (CB) in particular. The new Panathinakos owners have already added a bit of back-of-house structure to the club (that was missing under Fawaz) and have endeared themselves well to the fans by reducing season ticket prices. Fans have responded by buying 17000 of them. I expect with Ings up top, Forest could really push on next season and challenge for a Top 6 place.

18 Jul 2017 13:42:44
Rumours on Instagram Agreement reached with hull for Robertson, fee could rise to £10m

Best of luck to the lad. Be good to have a Scottish lad in the team again.

18 Jul 2017 14:06:15
Instagram is about as reliable as Twitter. BUT I do believe he's close to signing.

18 Jul 2017 14:22:07
Agreed!, but it's all over Instagram, seems believable. I'm not one for spreading rumours unless I truly believe there's truth. Hey atleast I'm not claiming to be ITK haha.

18 Jul 2017 14:39:19
Yes, it could be a lucky omen for us, I have a good feeling about this coming season, I like that with Salah and Roberstson, we will have two left footers in the side . it will give us a much better balance in the side .

18 Jul 2017 12:52:29
Man City have reportedly bid around £3m-£4.5m for Pepe Reina. It be nice to see him back in the league.
For me it still ranks as one of the worse sales we have ever committed to in the premier league era, never should have left us. Would people have taken him back now considering our goalkeeping options, his age and the price.

18 Jul 2017 13:00:34
Yeah I would've taken him back. We would be one step closer to fielding a whole team of goalkeepers then.

18 Jul 2017 13:13:08
I didn't want to see him leave either but he burnt his bridge. He thought he was nailed on for Barcelona and then he tries to grovel back. that's why we sold him.

18 Jul 2017 13:20:09
His form had dropped massively when we sold him.

18 Jul 2017 13:25:48
He is still a good keeper! It's a great move by City!

18 Jul 2017 13:42:17
why would he want to be a understudy, he didn't like not playing when he was number 2 at Bayern munich.

18 Jul 2017 11:12:31
I don't know about Heinz being a good source of football info, but the 'sauce' in their beans is not bad. ;)

18 Jul 2017 12:22:18
Lol haha he is saying his relible sourse works in the hinez sause factory:)

18 Jul 2017 12:48:06
Already covered mate. You need to ketchup!

18 Jul 2017 12:51:37
But I have a mate who works for KP. Maybe if they have any info on the saga then we could get the whole story 'soup to nuts! ' 😉.

18 Jul 2017 10:37:08
Just want to thank the eds for brightening up my morning. Not transfer or Liverpool related but top 10 pics of hot babes at yoga was certainly the topic at breakfast between the missus and myself. I ACCIDENTALLY clicked.

18 Jul 2017 10:40:50
Same happened to me and I got a right earful!

18 Jul 2017 12:06:28
I've accidently clicked on 'Thai brides' whilst on this site at work. Raised a few eyebrows when I got back to me desk and realized I didn't have the screen saver come up.

{Ed025's Note - accidental my arse.. :)

18 Jul 2017 13:47:23
I accidentally bought a Thai Bride!

She won't leave my house now. My partner was livid when she found out, but when she realised she didn't have to cook dinner anymore, she was pretty accepting of the situation. Another reason to thank this site!

18 Jul 2017 13:21:09
Swear to god it was Ed, I was hoping to find the 'Russian brides' link.

{Ed025's Note - love it swish..

18 Jul 2017 08:58:44
I know a lot of people are not happy with Robertson signing but at least give him a chance to prove if he is a success or not. Maybe if he changes his name to Robertsoninho perhaps then everyone will be happy then.

18 Jul 2017 10:10:13
The majority will give the lad a chance.
Imagine Rob Jones would have got the same treatment if he'd been around these days.
Some will be waiting for his first mistake to say they told us so.

18 Jul 2017 10:22:13
Always like your posts Ron but this guy actually played in the premier league and when I saw him with my own eyes, he offered nothing. Couldn't cross, wayward passing and often out of position. Sorry but no I don't rate him.

18 Jul 2017 10:41:18
Some people work better in different environments.
Hull City were a bit of a mess last year. Turmoil with owners, change of managers, not enough players for a squad at beginning of season.
It's a different story st LFC. Klopp will put his arm round him, the coaches will work with him.
No-one expects the finished article for £8m these days. Give the lad a chance is all we're asking - should he sign.

18 Jul 2017 10:49:51
A LB all day over a Midfielder. No my personal or first choice but I would play him over someone who cannot cross!

18 Jul 2017 11:11:07
10 million for a 23yo left back Scottish international had a decent season last year, don't no if it's just me but a bloody bargain if I do say so myself.

18 Jul 2017 12:28:34
anyone claiming to have seen enough of robertson to make a judgement are fibbing.

hand on heart to all the bashers - how many 90 minute games of hull did you watch last year?

18 Jul 2017 14:31:37
Yeah and if leon Britton changed his name to brittonio he could be instead of keita?

Because that's the level of fans. They only think a player is a poor player because of his name and not the 3 years he's had in and around the premier, destroyed by people like zaha. No no it's his name. good one lad. That's why everyone is exciting by solanke, wants Trent in the team, wants flanno back. majority love Henderson.

Keep up the good work sport :)

18 Jul 2017 18:05:51
Listen, if he can track a man and successfully pass to a team mate he will be a success. When i think back to konchesky he can't be worse than him really. Can he?

18 Jul 2017 18:05:51
Listen, if he can track a man and successfully pass to a team mate he will be a success. When i think back to konchesky he can't be worse than him really. Can he?

18 Jul 2017 07:20:37
Hi ED1, How are you doing? Would you happy if we add only Robertson to Solanki and Salah? Could we compete in CL and EPL with the current squad?

{Ed001's Note - happy is a subjective term and football has long since stopped affecting my mood in that respect. Yes we could compete, we showed last season we can compete with anyone, it is just about keeping the team at its best regularly.}

18 Jul 2017 07:35:36
No we couldn't, hence Klopp is after two more players and he isn't going to settle for the second or third choice! By that logic Chelsea wouldn't need to add any players as they walked away with the league last season!

18 Jul 2017 08:37:38
NKDD. Last season we showed we were more than capable of competing against the big teams which is why we finished with the best head to head against the top 6.

18 Jul 2017 08:40:54
Sorry to disagree Naby, but football really doesn't work that way, Chelsea won the league with more or less the same side that finished 10th the previous season?

We have shown how good the current team can be and with the experience and togetherness from last season there is no reason it cannot improve on last year without additions. Of course the additions mentioned would be great and welcome to fille in areas we were found lacking.

If you’ve played football you will know the more you play together and learn together the better you will be understanding each other etc. which would only improve you as team.

18 Jul 2017 09:12:49
I might be wrong here. We scrapped the barel by a single point of Arsenal and fell 15 points off from the top of the cliff! This team simply couldn't, Hence we finished 4th and not 1st or 2nd.
Best head to head against top 6 is of no relevance. A league is spread over 38 games and not mere 6 games! If anything you have learned that we were terrible against teams who sat back and defended deep!
There is a reason Klopp is adamant as a rock on Keita and VVD! And that reason tells you why!

Oh you are wrong. Chelsea added a world class CM ( who won the player of the year award ), A WB who scored or assisted more than any other, and a CB, They did not go in the season unchanged!

Ngolo Kante won them te league on his own!

18 Jul 2017 09:24:25
Leicester City?!

18 Jul 2017 09:40:21
Is NKDD Harry with a new name AGAIN?

18 Jul 2017 09:42:00
Whoever it is., . At least if your going to use his name, spell it right.

18 Jul 2017 10:13:22
Yeah it's "Navy Keith" 😁.

18 Jul 2017 03:41:58
I have a little request. Could we try to get through this silly season without insulting our players?

Let's see if we can go the whole of the transfer window without calling LFC players 'deadwood', or grumbling about FSG and their 'lack' of financial support.

And 10 bonus points to all who can avoid asking a question that has already been answered 3 times that hour.

18 Jul 2017 06:34:58
We are not linked with any other players than those three! I am afraid you ll have to pass the whole window mum!

18 Jul 2017 09:42:25
Oh it's a laugh a minute. Come on the silly silly remarks that people make keeps us entertained. We all really know that pretty much everyone on this site, if they were better qualified, informed, able than the guys making decisions at the helm in team affairs then they'd be earning their pennies doing so. I love my club and will support to the end and enjoy this site but take with a pinch of salt all that is said on it.

17 Jul 2017 22:18:24
Question for Ed one if I may please.
When I was about 14/ 15 so quite some time ago, I remember it being reported that we were bang on to sign Damien Duff (he was at Blackburn then) .
Was this ever a transfer? and if so any idea why it didn't happen.
Appreciate it was a while back, or even that it wasn't actually true. Just curious.
Thanks in advance.

{Ed001's Note - we were interested but not at the price and would not go near the wages he was offered elsewhere.}

18 Jul 2017 09:44:02
His surname was very apt though - so good job really!